1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: All right, Jim, great to be with you as always 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: loving the get up, my friend. I always love coming 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: on here to see what you're wearing on that particular day. 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: You have a new podcast to talk about. It is 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: the newest show on the foul Territory Network. It's called 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: GM Territory. It's something you've been working on. Proud to 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: talk about it, tell us more. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alt, I'm really excited to join the foul Territory 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: channel lineup for sure. You know, I think the GM's 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: voice in the game deserves once a week, right, players 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: get five days a week, They deserve that. We deserve 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: at least one day. Because you know, GM's in front office, 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: we probably view the game a little bit differently than 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: most people. So this show is going to be a 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: lot about roster building, contracts, scouting and evaluation, player development, analytics, 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: research and development science, the legal part, medical part, PR, 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: the collective bargain agreement. It's really just from a front 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: office angle, and as you guys know, it comes unfiltered, 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: it comes completely transparent. But I think that kind of 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: angle deserves a watch once a week. And so yeah, 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: my son Trey and I are very excited about doing 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: this weekly show. The first episode dropped today, so yeah, 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of fun. And one thing, 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: you know, I always remind people, right, there's only sixty 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: people in Major League Baseball that has full access to 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: all the information. Right, it's just the president and the 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: GM and everybody else that's involved in the game. All 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: their opinions, all the information all flows directly to those 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: two guys, right, whether it be the manager and the coaches, 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: player development, research and development, the scouting departments, whoever is 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: involved in the sport, it all goes to those two guys. 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: And of course the owner also has access, but they're 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: not looking on a daily basis. So I just thought 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: it was very important to make sure that the voice 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: of the GMS are heard on this channel, and I 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: think I hope hopefully the viewers are going to like 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: it and hopefully they'll subscribe and give us a chance. 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: Overall, what do you think the one thing is that 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: isn't heard from voices GMS now that we get a show, 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: What is the one thing that you would be like, 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: GMS get this as a bad rapper, maybe underappreciated. 42 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: I think it's more of an explanation because you know, 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: in general, unless the GM's in first place or a 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: world champion, most fans want them fired. Right. A lot 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: of the decisions are unpopular, a lot of them become controversial. 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: It's just the job you have. I mean, you drive 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: into any city on a team that's not in first 48 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: place and you turn on local radio and they'll want 49 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: that person fired. Sometimes it's just kind of an explanation 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: of why. You know, keep in mind, when you're in 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: a reality GM spot, you have to be political, right. 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: You have to protect your owner, right, you have to 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: protect your players, you have to protect your staff. There's 54 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: a lot of that goes on, and so sometimes you 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: need someone to translate GM speak to tell the audience 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: really what's going on and kind of take off the 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: filter that they have to have or the aspect of 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: being political. And so in this particular role, we don't 59 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: have to do that. We can explain to people exactly 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: what the gms are doing and why they're doing it, 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: or why they view a player who hit two twenty 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: but they think he's gonna hit two eighty, explain why 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: that is the case. So I think it's just let's 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: take the curtain down and all the things that the 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: GMS can't really tell you publicly, we can tell you 66 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: on this show. 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: Jim, You've never been silent with your opinion, so welcome 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: to the family. You're gonna run out of scarves and 69 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: Louis Vaton's and Gucci's though, if you have to do 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: this once a week, so you're gonna have to upgrade 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: your style just a little bit if you're doing this 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: on the regular. Now, congratulations, Welcome to the family. Explain 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: to me why Gino Suarez only got one year fifteen 74 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: It's a great move for the Reds. I love the 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: move for the Reds, but why were there other teams 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: not clamoring for his attention, like the Red Sox, the Yankees. 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a. 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: List of teams you could come up with that all. 79 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: Could afford one year and fifteen million for god can 80 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: hit you fifty? 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Aja, you and I are on the same page 82 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: on that. I don't get it. And you know, one 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: of the things when I look at the Yankees lineup, 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: they're two They're two left handed right. The only right 85 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: hand bats they have right now are Aaron Judge whoever's 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: playing shortstop and John Carlos Stanton. And we all know 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: gian Carlo Stanton's injury history. But besides that, they're all 88 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: left handed. They needed a right handed bat, and Suarez 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: could have been that, you know, backup, third, backup, first, 90 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: back up DH. I mean for one year at fifteen million, 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Look at the Detroit Tigers, another 92 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: team way too left handed. They need another right hand bat, 93 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: and their best prospects are all left hand hitters too 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: that are coming, like Kevin McGonagall and Max Clark and Brusno. 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: So you know, I think that he would have fit 96 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: so many spots. I'm surprised the Pirates didn't make a 97 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: better effort that that one really surprises me. But I 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: always like to give credit where it's due. And Nick Krawl, 99 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: the president, Brad Meter the GM. They listened to Todd Fraser 100 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: last week on foul Territory and Todd was manifesting Suarez 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: going to the Reds as the DH. I text with 102 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: Nick Krawl yesterday. I wanted to know the role that 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: Suarez was going to have. He was very clear with me. 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: He said, look, he's going to DH. He'll play some 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: third and we'll give him some reps at first base 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: in spring training to get a forty nine home run 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: bat at great American small park, the hit in your 108 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: middle of the lineup. That was a huge pickup for them, 109 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and look shame on some of the teams that weren't 110 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: more aggressive. Look, I even thought a team like the 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: Rockies would have been smart sign them, give him a 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: two year deal, trade him at the trade deadline, let 113 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: him hit all those homers at Corsfield, and try to 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: get a prospect for him. But at the end of 115 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: the day, I think he landed in a great spot 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: for him, a great ballpark, he's familiar with the city. 117 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: He's going to add to that culture in that clubhouse. 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: So I love the signing for them. I thought it 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: was a bargain deal, And yes, I agree with you. 120 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: I think a lot of teams missed the boat, with no. 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: Question about that, And good for the Cincinnati Ed's locking 122 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: him up. And Eric was making the point Jim that 123 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable that a guy on basically February first is 124 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: a cleanup hitter and is being signed this late into 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: the off season. Your first episode with trade dropped, it 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: was all on the Al East, So we're going to 127 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: stick to the National League here. Your reaction to the 128 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Luis Arise signing with the San Francisco Giants and what 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: that does to the middle of their infield, in the 130 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: middle of their order. And why is this a guy 131 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Jim that has three batting titles to his credit, yet 132 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: he keeps getting traded or he's continued to be available. 133 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll start first of all with the last 134 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: question that you threw out there. It's because it Rise 135 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: wins the batting title. He does it without power, without speed, 136 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: and a blow average defender with blow average range. So 137 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: you're getting one tool right, and it's an important tool 138 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: because he can create traffic. And that's what I like 139 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: about is fit with the Giants. He can hit the 140 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: top of the lineup, get on base, and that allows 141 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: devers Adamis and Chatman when they go yard that it 142 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: can be a two run home or a three run 143 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: homer instead of a solo shot. So from an offensive perspective, 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: I like it. Now, keep in mind, while the Dodgers 145 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: have been shopping at blooming Dale's and Sacksville Avenue and 146 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: Neiman Marcus, the Giants have spent the winners shopping at 147 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: Target and Costco and Walmart. But that doesn't mean they're 148 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: not getting value deals. And I think a Rise comes 149 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: out of value, just like I thought Harrison Bader, who 150 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: I think is a fourth outfielder. But it improved their 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: defense in center field. I like them taking a chance 152 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: on Tyler Mallley in the middle of their rotation. If 153 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: he can stay healthy, can help. So these small moves 154 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: I think makes them a little better. It brings them 155 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: closer to the Padres, although not the Dodgers. But I 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: think when you look at a Rise, the other fit 157 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 2: that I have is a couple of things. Number One, 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: Ron Washington is there on the San Francisco staff, so 159 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Ron Washington can be working with him defensively. He makes 160 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: everybody better defensively, like that number two. Right now, they've 161 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: got Bryce Eldridge is gonna be the DH He's six 162 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: foot seventy's twenty one years old, he has big holes 163 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: at the plate. There's no guarantee that he's gonna be 164 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. There's no guarantee he's gonna hit 165 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: in the first two months. In fact, he could pull 166 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: an Aaron Judge. And if you remember Aaron Judge's rookie year, 167 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: he punched out fifty percent of the time. Literally Eldridge, 168 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: that could happen to him as well. So for the 169 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: Giants to have a Rise, if Eldridge doesn't hit, you 170 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: can option him out. You can put a Rise at 171 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: DH and put Casey Smith Schmidt back at second base 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: to improve your defense at the position. So I liked 173 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: the play for traffic. I like the depth play in 174 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: case Eldred's doesn't hit, and I like the value dollar wise. 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: All right, I love that these both these players are you. 176 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: Hinu Suarez and Luisa Rise both signed pretty much on 177 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: the same days as a GM who got better value 178 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: twelve million for a Rise into the Giants' lineup or 179 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: fifteen million for Auhnu Swa into the Reds lineup. 180 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: It's the fifteen million for Suarez for me in the 181 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: lineup for sure, because it's you know, he may not 182 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: hit forty nine homers, but he'll probably hit forty in 183 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: that ballpark, right, and that's huge for that team, the 184 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: big three run homers. I think he can be more 185 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: of a difference maker for Cincinnati than a Rise can 186 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: be for San Francisco. So for three million dollars more 187 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: to get a forty home run bat Yeah, I'm gonna 188 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: take Suarez and I like the question. 189 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: All right, so you mentioned Pittsburgh. I mentioned Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh, 190 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: and I said this, Pittsburgh's got a point where they 191 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: have to overpay. And we've had this conversation and it's 192 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: not on the knock on the pirates. Listen, they're trying. 193 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 4: But if you go to Gino Suorrez and they say, oh, 194 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: we're willing to go two years a little bit higher AAV. 195 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: If you go to him and say we'll give you 196 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: two forty, you think he's going to say no to that? Like, 197 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 4: you have to overpay because Pittsburgh hasn't proven over the 198 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: last honestly. I mean, I know they made the playoffs 199 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: in the what thirteen to fourteen around there, but honestly, 200 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: they haven't been really relevant since the Barry Bonds Bobby 201 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 4: Benia where they have a chance to win the World Series. 202 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: So you have to prove the players that you're relevant 203 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: and you really are trying, not just doing window dressing. 204 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: Am I wrong on this? 205 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong. And let me take it behind 206 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: the curtain there with GM Ben Sherrington, who as we 207 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: all remember, was a world champion general manager of the 208 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: big market Boston Red Sox, and when he left there, 209 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: he went to the Toronto Blue Jays, another big market 210 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: team where he's used to paying with the value as 211 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: of players, and they'd gone over to Pittsburgh and the 212 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: ownership hasn't given him money really to spend on free 213 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: agents since he's been there. This is the first year 214 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: he's had a little bit money to spend, and I'm 215 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: just not sure he's used to understanding how hard it 216 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: is to get players to a team like the Pittsburgh market. 217 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: It's difficult, it's not easy, and you have to overpay 218 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: to get them. I made the comment earlier today they 219 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: didn't really want you, Heniosuarez, because if they did, they 220 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: would have gotten him. They would have done two years 221 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: at forty or two years at thirty eight, and they 222 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: would have gotten the player. So I don't want to 223 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: hear that they wanted the player. Yes, they were interested, 224 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: they didn't want him bad enough. That's kind of how 225 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: it came down. If I'm Sorez and I have two 226 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: similar offers, one in Cincinnati and one in Pittsburgh, I'm 227 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: taking Cincinnati. That's where I'm going, and I think that's 228 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: what Surez did. But to your point, yeah, pirates are 229 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: going to have to learn from this experience. You know, 230 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: they undershot Kyle Schwarber. They should have made him the 231 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: highest offer that any team did to at least have 232 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: a chance for him, and they should have taken advantage 233 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: of Srez being on the open market. He might have 234 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: been a game changer for them. So yeah, I mean, 235 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: I think that's one thing that Ben, if nothing else, learned, 236 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: and we'll see if he can make an adjustment because 237 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: I still think they need one more bat. 238 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: Jim. Why didn't the Red Socks even make an offer? 239 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: And why are the offers so similar? Why is everyone 240 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: offering a one year, fifteen million dollar deal. It seems 241 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: like they're chatting. 242 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't want to answer that last part. 243 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to answer the first part. Red Sox don't 244 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: like his defense at third base, so that they don't 245 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: want the defense at third. They can't have him DH 246 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: because they've got four outfielders, of which one asked the 247 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: DH every single night. They've got the best outfield in baseball. 248 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: So the bottom line there was the defense at third. 249 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: They didn't want Suarez to block Marcelo Meyer when he's healthy, 250 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: They've got him at third base right now, and they're 251 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: really concerned about the defense, and they should be right. 252 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: They have an elite defensive outfield, but the infield defense 253 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: was very questionable last year and there are still questions 254 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: about that this year. So that is the answer. I 255 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: probably would have taken a shot just because I would 256 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: have liked him in that lineup at Fenway Park. I 257 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: might have tried to live with the blow average defense 258 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: at third base and defense form late in games. That 259 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: would have been my opinion. But to answer your question, 260 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: that's why Craig Breslo passed on. 261 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: All right, everybody loves to watch look, come and watch 262 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: the show for your outfits, but they love to read 263 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: projections because they know you're going to be exactly right. 264 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: Let's start with the National League East, the Mets first, 265 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: the Phillies third. Do they both make the playoffs? And 266 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: kind of explain a little bit of your projections and 267 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: your your off season grading for the National League East? 268 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Eric. Let me start with the Phillies. Phillies 269 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: were hard for me to navigate through because I just 270 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: don't know what I'm getting with Zach Wheeler. So you know, 271 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: I don't know when Wheeler is going to be activated, 272 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: and I don't know what he's going to look like. 273 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: You know, there are some pitchers that have had drastic 274 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: outlet syndrome that have never come back, like Steven Strasburg, 275 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: although his was a different kind. But that's a question 276 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: for me. If someone could tell me that Zach Wheeler 277 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: is going to be the ace that he once was, 278 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: I would think differently. I don't know what Aaron Nola's 279 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: going to be. He really looked like he was declining 280 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: to me. The stuff wasn't the same. Is he going 281 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: to have a bounce back here? I'm not sure I 282 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: know what he is. And with Andrew Paynter, is he 283 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: going to live up to the potential that we saw 284 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: of him in the minor leagues? Another year away from 285 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: Tommy John, could he live up to the potential? I 286 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: don't know those questions. You're gonna miss Ranger Suarez. I 287 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: do know that question. I love Sanchez. He's now the 288 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: ace right now of the Phillies, but it was the 289 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: question mark in the starting pitching that had me put 290 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: the Phillies in third place, probably in the playoffs. To 291 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: answer your question, as a wild card team, but that's 292 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: the only reason they weren't there. If the Wheeler and 293 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Nola answers are positive, then they've got a good chance 294 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: of any of winning the division. I kind of like 295 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: that odoles Garcia signing. The more that I look at it, 296 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: the more I talk to people that had him last year, 297 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: like Chris Young and Brett Boone, I get a little 298 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: bit more excited about maybe a comeback year for him. 299 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: Kind of open minded with that kind of watching that 300 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: they're running back the same team. You know. I don't 301 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: love the fact they're doing that again. I would have 302 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: liked them to be able to land, but that would 303 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: have been a difference maker in terms of the Mets. 304 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: This was fascinating because they had like the worst off 305 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: season until January, and then all of a sudden they 306 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: made those flurri of moves and just completely changed the 307 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: outlook for me. Adding Freddy Peralta with Nolan McLain at 308 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: the top of the rotation, that's significant for me. I 309 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: think McClain maybe the guy starting Game one, with Peralta 310 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: starting Game two. But now they have starting pitching depth 311 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: as well, so they've got two guys at the top 312 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: that are ace quality, and now they've got the set. 313 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: They're seven deep, and Jonah Toong may not even be 314 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: in the rotation on opening day if Senga and and 315 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: I are healthy. So you know, with Peterson and Holmes, 316 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: I just like the depth there. I think Devin Williams 317 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: and Luke Weaver will be fine. Williams look good at 318 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: the end of the year, so hopefully he can bounce back. 319 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,359 Speaker 2: And then I just you know, up the middle defensively 320 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: right Simmon at second, Lender at short, Robert at center, 321 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: and Alvarez catching. I love that defense up the middle, 322 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: and adding Bashett and pull Uncle. I mean, those are 323 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: two twenty home run guys. Bashett creates traffic, and I 324 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: love the Soto sandwich of lidn Or and Bashett sandwiching 325 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: him in that lineup, whether it's Bishette one, Linden or 326 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: three or vice versa. I kind of like that. So 327 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: I just feel like there's a momentum in New York. 328 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: I think that the pendulum has swung. And so I 329 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: gave them an A minus for my off season grades, 330 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: and I predicted them to win the division. I had 331 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: it Atlanta in second. I gave them a B plus. 332 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: I like the fact that they got Robert Suarez and 333 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: brought Iglesias back at the back end of the bullpen. 334 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: Atlanta's grade has to do with and putting them in 335 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: second is kind of like Philadelphia. Is the pitching going 336 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: to be healthy? I mean, is Chris sale back? Is 337 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: schrolling back back? I mean that, I don't know. Is 338 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: Spencer Strider going to be the guy we saw three 339 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: or four years ago before Tommy john Er is he 340 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: the guy we saw last year? Again, I don't know 341 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: those questions. I do know this. If Atlanta is healthy, 342 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: they're a playoff team. I do know that. So again, 343 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: I love this division. Miami's much better. I thought they 344 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: had a solid off season. Washington, you know they're rebuilding, 345 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 2: but they're doing it the right way. So I think 346 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: all in all, the analyst had a really good off season. 347 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: I lined them up Mets, Braves, Phillies for now. We'll 348 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: see if spring training changes anything. But that's kind of 349 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: how I see it today, Jim. 350 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: I just want to I just want to go back 351 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: to something you said about the Phillies. You question their 352 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 4: pitching depth. Isn't that why they brought back Aaron Nola? 353 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: Isn't that why they thought they could let Rangers Suarez 354 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: get away. Isn't that why, Hey, Sussel Lozzardo was brought in. 355 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: They have Andrew Payne or is he going to bounce back? 356 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: Right? 357 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: But this is the one thing. 358 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 4: When they signed Aeronola, they said, we have consistency. Right, 359 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: they bring back real Muto, they bring back Coyles Rubber. 360 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: We have consistency. We have consistency. We have consistency. Now 361 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: everybody outside of Philadelphia saying, man, are they too old? Now? 362 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: Nola's losing his stuff. Did they make some wrong decisions 363 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: along the way of bringing back guys just to bring 364 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: them back because they loved them. 365 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: I think, I think you can when you're running teams. 366 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: I think you can get a team that's stale, and 367 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: you can have players that are together too long. And 368 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's good whether you influx young players 369 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: or whether you make some changes. I thought the Nola deal, 370 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: I thought Joe Longo negotiated a great deal for Nola, 371 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: a great long term deal that was very player friendly 372 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: at the time. I questioned it at the time, and 373 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: when you look at the dollars, it was an amazing 374 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: deal for Nola. But again, none of us know for sure, 375 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: you know how long pitchers can pitch at a certain level. 376 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: You know you didn't know that at the time, None 377 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: of us do. But I don't think we can ignore 378 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: what we're watching. In terms of the position players. You know, 379 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: you know how long has Alec Bone been there? You 380 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: know Bryson Stott? Is there a chance to upgrade? They 381 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: tried to with Boba Shet He recognized it. But I 382 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: think one of the positive keys for Philadelphia could be 383 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: the rookie Justin Crawford in center field. He's going to 384 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: bring youth, energy, speed, range in the outfield, so that 385 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: could be huge. Aidan Miller could get ready at some 386 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: point during the season. He could take over third base 387 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: or second base or play shortstop, and Turner could move 388 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: to second base. I mean, I think that, you know, 389 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: those kind of things could change the direction of this team. 390 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 2: But to me, the Phillies, it's all about that rotation. 391 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 2: If you tell me Wheeler, Nola, Lozardo and Sanchez are 392 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: going to live up to when we've seen them the best, 393 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: then they can run the table on October. So I 394 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: don't think their run is over, but I think they 395 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: better be careful because they are getting older and they 396 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: are getting stale. 397 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: Jim, Let's move our focus to the NL Central. You 398 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: had said in your grades that Chicago you expect them 399 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: to be first. Not a huge shocker there. But the 400 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: question for Cincinnati that you pose is, even with Suarez 401 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: on board, Jim, do they have enough offense to make 402 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: it back to the postseason. They did make it last year, 403 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: they lost to the Dodgers in two games, but they 404 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: were in the postseason. Do they have enough? 405 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think all right, So let's talk 406 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: about what has to happen for them to have enough. Right, 407 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: two of the keys for me are, right Phil and 408 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: ove Marte and first base and Sal Stewart. I love 409 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: both their bats. Can they do it this year? You know? 410 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: Can they be consistent? Can they give us five hundred 411 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: plate appearances? And live up to the offense? You know, 412 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 2: we don't have that answer. I know they have the 413 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: potential of doing that. Can La Dla Cruz be the 414 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: player that we think he's going to be this year 415 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: or is he going to be the player that he's 416 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: been so far? Great tools, It looks like a player 417 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: that could be an MVP player someday. It looks like 418 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: a guy could be in the Hall of Fame someday. 419 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: You have to do it, though, right, You can't keep 420 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: talking about it. You can't chase out of the zone. 421 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: You've got to be more consistent. You know, if he's healthy, 422 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: can he live up to our expectations? Will he finish 423 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: top five in the MVP. I think that has to 424 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: happen for them. And then you know, you look at 425 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: the bottom of the lineup. You know, I need Matt 426 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: McClain to be the player I saw his rookie year, 427 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: which I haven't seen since. Right, he's gone through a 428 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: lot of injuries, you know, another year away from from 429 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: his shoulder surgery. You know, hopefully he can add to that. 430 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: So I just kind of think there's a lot of 431 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: questions with their young hitters, and I think there's a 432 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: lot of questions at the very bottom of their lineup. 433 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, that's kind of why I 434 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: look at they would eighty three win team last year 435 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: that made the playoffs. If you blink, you would have 436 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: missed their series with the Dodgers. But the thing I 437 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: love about the Reds is I love the starting pitching, 438 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: I love the bullpen depth, I love their manager in 439 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: Terry Francona. I think this is an eighty five to 440 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: eighty seven win team. Is that going to be good 441 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 2: enough to make the playoffs? I don't know, but I 442 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: do think I have both the Cubs and the Brewers 443 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: ahead of them because I think the Reds lineup needs 444 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: more length, and I think we have a lot of 445 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: questions about young hitters living up to potential. 446 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: Which NLS storyline is the one that's going to shape 447 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: the division more than any other one. Katl Marte still 448 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: being out there possibly to be traded, uncertainty of what 449 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: is going to happen with Tony Vtello and managing the Giants. 450 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: Is it just the Dodgers are just gonna be the 451 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: World Series champion, so everyone else is playing for second place? 452 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think in the West, the Dodgers for the 453 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: first time. I don't think we'll have a race, and 454 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: we have been having a race. I mean, people don't 455 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: realize in the regular season last year Milwaukee Brewers had 456 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: a better record than the Dodgers. But we've watched a 457 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 2: race between the Padres have been in it, Arizona's been 458 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: in it for years. I don't think we're gonna have 459 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: that anymore. I think the Dodgers offseason has said goodbye 460 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: challenge to Lacks everybody, You're gone. Okay, we'll see you 461 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: guys in October. Okay. I think there's the big, biggest 462 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: separation we've seen in a long, long time with this 463 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: Dodger team, which is built so well at every level, 464 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: by the way, the minor league system, the scouting, the analytics, 465 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: science technology they just have. They're the model of baseball. 466 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: That's what they are, and they're in a dynasty that 467 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: we should all embrace and enjoy. So I think what's 468 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: gonna be fun is the race between the Padres and 469 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: Giants for second or third. Can one of these teams 470 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. I think that's gonna be a really 471 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: big storyline. And yeah, I do think at some point 472 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: could tell Marte gets traded. And I do think the 473 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: two managers though, with San Diego and San Francisco, both 474 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: of them, whether it's Vitello or Craig Stammon, I think 475 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: it's fascinating to watch how they succeed or how they develop, 476 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: or what hiccups they have. I mean, it's kind of interesting, 477 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: kind of bizarre to me that we have two really 478 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: inexperienced major league managers in these positions, and I'm just 479 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: gonna be fascinated to see kind of how that plays out. 480 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: So I guess, if I had to pick one storyline 481 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: because I think the Dodgers is too easy, I think 482 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: it's the two managers in San Diego and San Francisco 483 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: and how they do. 484 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: Do you see the Dodgers running away with the actual 485 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: record because of how they use their rotation? Somebody's bark 486 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: and at we already heard Blake Snell is kind of 487 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: exhausted from last year's one hundred innings that he threw, 488 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 3: and they're kind of holding them back a little bit. 489 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: Do you feel like they're really going to push to 490 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: win one hundred games or they're just built so deep 491 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: that they're just gonna win one hundred games. 492 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're built so deep they're going hundred games. Yes, 493 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: But to answer your question, they're going to play the 494 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: regular season for October. They're not gonna push these starting pitchers, 495 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: so they're gonna go with a six man rotation, and 496 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: then as we get to June and July, we're gonna 497 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: have an injured list of an oblique or we're gonna 498 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: have a toenail that needs to go on the IL 499 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: and we're just gonna monitor the innings. We're gonna go slow, 500 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna get everything ready for October, and we're gonna 501 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: show off our pitching depth. As we developed Sasaki and Sheehan, 502 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: we still have landed knack. Bobby Miller hasn't gone away. 503 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna go and take our time. And that bullpen, 504 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: you know, Yes, they've got dz Now in the back end, 505 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: arguably the best closer in the league, but they're eight 506 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 2: deep after him. They've got eight guys that they can 507 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: run out there, so starters don't have to go deep 508 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: into games. We can take our time. Give me five, 509 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: I'll go to the bullpen. I've got eight guys and 510 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: I got a arm system loaded with more. So yeah, 511 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: let's take our time. We're just gonna yawn win one 512 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: hundred and we'll catch in October and we'll be ready 513 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: to go in October. Believe me. 514 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: Alana, Oh gee, sorry, I thought Alana was going. Sorry, Jim, 515 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: we hit a rise, we hit Suarez free agents. What 516 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: about before we go? I gotta ask Gallon from Bervaldez, 517 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: are they gonna sign because spring training starts about what 518 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 4: a week. I think some teams report on the tenth 519 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: eleventh this year round. Then, so we're getting down to 520 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: the nitty gritty here, Jim, have you heard anything about 521 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: those two guys? 522 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Aj, you know what's funny, I've heard nothing about 523 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: Frambur And I've been trying to dig I've been trying 524 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: to get something, anything from anybody, and all I keep 525 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 2: hearing is probably gonna end up in Baltimore. But I 526 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: think the market for him is just completely fell flat. 527 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: And I just don't know what the agents are planning now. 528 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're planning on Hey, I'll wait 529 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: to spring training and see if somebody blows their arm 530 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: out where maybe somebody else jumps in. Obviously they don't 531 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: have anything on the table they like. I don't know 532 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: if they're ready to do the Suarez thing and just 533 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: sign that short, one one year deal and and have 534 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: a home. But I have not heard anything. AJ and 535 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: I have been digging very hard. In terms of Gallan. 536 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: You know, he does have a pretty good market, but 537 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: he is tied to drop pick compensation, which is a problem. 538 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: He's coming off a down year, which is somewhat of 539 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: an issue. You know, I keep hearing a return to 540 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: Arizona is most likely. That's the latest I've heard. But 541 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: there are a lot of teams in on Zach Gallan. 542 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: He does have a robust market, and Scott Borish represents 543 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: him and Scott as you know, never going to be 544 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: in a hurry. He's going to take his time. He's 545 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: going to think that if he may have an advantage 546 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: to wait until spring training starts. Scott's never been afraid 547 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: to do that with a client. So I'm not really 548 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 2: worried about Gallon finding a home. I think he can 549 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: always return to Arizona. Framber's kind of, to me, the 550 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: most fascinating free agent of this entire offseason. I can't 551 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: wait to see where he lands and how much he gets. 552 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: I can tell you one thing, if I was a 553 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: GM of any of these teams, I would be making 554 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: that phone call every single day to see if there 555 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: isn't a way I could steal the player. 556 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: Jim always phenomenal information. We appreciate it very much. Don't 557 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: forget you guys, a brand new show, GM Territory with 558 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Jim and his son Trey. Let's make sure you guys 559 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: get to subscribe to that we appreciate it. 560 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 4: All right. 561 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: We're talking a lot about the San Francisco Giants, obviously 562 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: with the Luis Arise conversation. So the question that I 563 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: ask you guys bet MGM futures the regular season wins 564 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: for San Francisco over or under on a line of 565 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: eighty one and a half. AJ will start with you, 566 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: what are you taking? Why is this funny? I don't know, betting, 567 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: why is this funny? 568 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: Because his number's tough? You know what I'm going under. 569 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say eighty one because I don't know. I 570 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: wanna They're so good at these. 571 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Are so tar That's why it huge casinos, because. 572 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: That's why I'm taking the under. Because with the Dodgers, 573 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 4: I think the Diamondbacks will be improved. I think the 574 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: Padres are better than the Giants right now. The Rockies 575 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 4: are the Rockies, so they're kind of irrelevant, but I 576 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: just think that they're the fourth best team maybe in 577 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: this division. And to see him get over eighty one 578 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: wins in a really tough division that just doesn't seem 579 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 4: like the way. Now, they could prove me wrong. Giants 580 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: fans already hate me so and what's a little bit. 581 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: More, all right. 582 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Sarah Harmon nineteen seventy four says, take the over, They're 583 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: going to be stronger. I need money, says take the 584 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: under owl of Minervas as loll dam. I'm not sure 585 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: what she's referring to, but fourth place, I need money, 586 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: all right? Ek, What do you say over under on 587 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: the San Francisco Giants regular season total at eighty one 588 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: and a half, that's your line. 589 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: Under? 590 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: I think there are five two. I think they're a 591 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: five hundred team. And I'm not saying they're going to 592 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: be like seventy eight wins. I would take a'd be 593 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: a massive under for me. But I think they're a 594 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: five hundred team unless they make a move that moves 595 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: the needle for me. Because now you know, is Willia 596 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: Domas's defense gonna be there all year, Raffie Devers is 597 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: gonna hit his thirty homers. But is the right side 598 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: of their infield not good enough? Is the outfield defense legit? 599 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: Do they stay healthy? Do they have enough depth for that? 600 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: I just feel like they're a five hundred team. I 601 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: feel like this number is eighty one if there's very 602 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: few when it's like when I'm right on this number 603 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: that I'd be like, okay, either one. I'm like not 604 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: gonna take it. If you said, here's what the price is, 605 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: here's the number I'm giving you. If you take eighty 606 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: one wins, I will take eighty one. I think they 607 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: are a five hundred team, and I don't think they've 608 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: done enough to make them not a five hundred team 609 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: this offseason. 610 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: AJ is not a huge fan of bets in the eighties. 611 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: Apparently. 612 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: Oh no, they've just been really good lately. That these 613 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: these gamblers. It's like they know what they're doing. 614 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: I think they do odds makers. 615 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 4: I should say it's listen, I agree with everything. Kroutzy 616 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: just said, Man, we agree on this one. Like they're 617 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: a five hundred ish team. Everything can break right and 618 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: they could be better. Everything can break wrong and they 619 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: could be worse. So it's just we'll see. 620 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: You can't you can't end the season last year where 621 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: they ended it with a cy young candidate Logan Web, 622 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: and say what if Logan Web has an unbelievable year, 623 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: Like Logan Web is not what you're talking about. Ralfie 624 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: Devers is not what you're talking about. He's gonna hit 625 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: his dingers. William Damas showed up, you know, to hit 626 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: thirty homers again. It's gonna be tough. Matt Tapman's gonna 627 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: play ridiculous defense. It's just did you add anything to 628 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: the already pieces that you have? And I don't think so, 629 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: And I think right now they're five hundred. 630 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 631 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: Don't forget Verlander had an unbelievable second half last year 632 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: and they still finished, really finished. So, I mean, Robbie 633 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: Ray was pretty good. I mean, well, Logan Web was 634 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: really good all year, Domas was thirty. 635 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: I just don't bet MGM account holders today. 636 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: How About in any sport parlay boost token you can 637 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: score a bigger payout if your wager with that token hits. 638 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: Tokens can be used on parlays and on same game parlays. 639 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: Gambling problem or concerned, there's help called one eight hundred 640 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: Gambler