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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and typically a Monday after a game, we

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about the game. Yeah, but man, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot happening.

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Speaker 2: There is a lot happening in this game. Didn't go

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Speaker 2: well obviously, that's for sure. And it's two games from

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Speaker 2: two days removed. That's a weird feeling as well. But

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Speaker 2: miserable performance in the second half in particular, you know,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about that. But there's a lot going on

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Speaker 2: in the league right now, locking on this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Tomlin having his press conference today announcing that

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph will get presumably get to start on two

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Speaker 1: or I should say next Saturday against the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 1: because and I say presumably, because Kenny Pickett could practice

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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, Like I just saw the headline Rudolph to start,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, does that rule picket Et? I

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Speaker 2: thought he had a chance to come back and if

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Speaker 2: he will or not, but he's gonna at least give

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Speaker 2: it a shot, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's going to try to practice later in the week,

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Speaker 1: and so we'll see where that leads.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: But look, so let's pull back to curtain. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of people on social media. I told you

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Speaker 1: sowing us on a couple of statements that we've made.

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Speaker 1: I will admit one thing I was wrong about Mitch

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Speaker 1: Trubisky two years ago, and I said, yeah, the Steeler

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Speaker 1: should sign him. He'll be a good, a good backup,

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Speaker 1: a good, a good potential bridge quarterback here. That's not

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Speaker 1: been the case.

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Speaker 2: It's not been the case. I mean there. I remember

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Speaker 2: that offseason vividly because Mariota, Winston, and Trubisky were all

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Speaker 2: up and I was intrigued with all of them, you know,

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Speaker 2: thinking maybe you can rejuvenate in early first round picks career.

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Speaker 2: Winston was my favorite, Tribisky was two, Mariota was three.

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Speaker 2: And not only is it not worked out and this

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Speaker 2: isn't necessarily his fault. And why I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to Rudolph I know they're going to Rudolph is it's

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Speaker 2: now apparent with how this team is constructed, quarterback can't

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Speaker 2: turn the ball over. And he's always going to be

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Speaker 2: a volatile guy. He has every step.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to let if you're going to open

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Speaker 1: things up and say, Mitch, you know you've got to

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Speaker 1: go out there and throw for three hundred yards to

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Speaker 1: win this game. For us understanding that he's going to

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Speaker 1: throw a couple of interceptions, then find that's way more

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Speaker 1: what he's built to do. That's what you're going to do.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to play ball control and try to

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Speaker 1: not turn the football over, you can't do that. And

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned in my in my ten thoughts after

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Speaker 1: this game, he's turned the ball over five times and

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Speaker 1: just over one hundred pass attempts this year. Kenny Pickett's

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Speaker 1: turn four interceptions in over three hundred pass attempts this year.

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Speaker 1: People are killing Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett's playing the way

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Speaker 1: that they want him to play. That's why I don't

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Speaker 1: care about all the touchdown passes and three hundred yard games.

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Speaker 1: Protecting the football is more important right now for this

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Speaker 1: team than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just doing another radio hit and you

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Speaker 2: basically said the same thing that going back to the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty five games something like that, give

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Speaker 2: or take. Since then, it's become very obvious how this

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Speaker 2: team wins and how this team loses, or basically what

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Speaker 2: gives us the better way of phrasing it is, since

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Speaker 2: that time, what gives us team the best chance to

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Speaker 2: compete to win any given football game is the quarterback antern.

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Speaker 1: A ball value.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta value the football, and Kenny does that.

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Speaker 2: That's has been his best trade in that in that

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Speaker 2: stint and without a question important trade. That's a very

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Speaker 2: important trade. And Trubisky that's not his traits, you know.

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Speaker 2: So Rudolph presumably gives you more ball protection. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he is. I mean just their style of quarterbacking. Will

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Speaker 2: he compete the Will he complete the twenty eight yard

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Speaker 2: thread through a needle pass that Trubisky might complete one

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Speaker 1: Wanted to try it, you know, like the third and

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Speaker 1: I think it was third and twenty pass that Trubisky

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Speaker 2: That's natural abilities. While you're an early pick, you know, right, but.

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Speaker 1: You can't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 2: But you can't correlate with interceptions that seem to be

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Speaker 2: what one hundred hundreds attempts.

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Speaker 1: Hundreds, So here it is. He's Pikett has three I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: four interceptions this year and three hundred and twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Pass attempts, which is remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Trubisky has thrown five and one hundred and seven attempts

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's.

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Speaker 1: One thing if you're throwing. If you're also throwing, you know,

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Speaker 1: in one hundred and seven pass you have eight touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: then you can live with five interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yards per attempt for Trubisky was at the bottom

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Speaker 2: of the league going into this game, so it's not correlating.

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Speaker 2: You and I were joking off the air. It's like

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Speaker 2: Brett fav If he throws leads the league interceptions, he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take it's Josh Allen Josh Allen argument. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna throw some interceptions, but he's going

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Speaker 1: to make five plays in a game that nobody else

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I can live of the roller coaster if my

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks an MVP type. But dude, yeah, sure, there are

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Speaker 2: going to be bad times you could live that.

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Speaker 1: Way if young Ben Roethlisberger was that absolute a lot

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Speaker 1: of stretches of his career, you know, he threw interceptions

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Speaker 1: know it.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so, but Mitch isn't that guy, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think he ever will be. And well, at least

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Speaker 2: history has shown he isn't to this point or any

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Speaker 2: inclination that all of a sudden that the huge plays,

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Speaker 2: the jaw dropping Josh Allen stuff's going to accompany the

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Speaker 2: the problems. So I think making a change to Rudolph

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Speaker 2: makes all the sense in the world. Now, Putting Rudolph

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Speaker 2: at the end of the game wasn't going to save

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Speaker 2: your game at all.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why they did that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I say, yeah, I think there's more to this.

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Speaker 1: Somlin did that because Rudolph hasn't played and he's he

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Speaker 1: was already thinking after the last interception, Okay, I'm not

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Speaker 2: I also thought of that time too, Like we were

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Speaker 2: talking about in a different airways. It's not replacing your

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Speaker 2: This is a big change. What's happening is not acceptable,

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Speaker 2: you know. So a quarterback change means more than just

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Speaker 2: this guy gives us the best chance to win the

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Speaker 2: rest of the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean perhaps now people will understand, like

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Speaker 1: doing with Kenny Pickett this year, Like, you can't play

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Speaker 1: the way that they've played the last two weeks, in particular,

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Speaker 1: right turning the ball over with this way that it's instructed, right, right,

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Speaker 1: there's not gonna be enough.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it with any team. But that's true,

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Speaker 2: But it's exemplified with this team too. I mean, now,

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Speaker 2: does that mean that they can turn their season around? Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not. I mean there's still massive deficiencies on defense

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Speaker 2: there's all kinds of problem. Don't get me wrong. But

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Speaker 2: it starts with you can't beat yourself, and we've been

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Speaker 2: saying that all year, and Trubisky puts the ball in

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Speaker 2: Harm's way too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, too much of the beating of yourself.

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Speaker 1: The league also announcing today that demonte Kyz is suspended

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: I have a bit of a problem.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I don't know what as a defensive

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Speaker 1: this is the the I got the note here or

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Speaker 1: the email from John Runyan, who, by the way, how

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Speaker 1: the hell is John Runyon, who was one of the

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Speaker 1: dirtiest players in the game, How is he adjudicating these things?

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Speaker 2: I have no clue, but I find it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he he like literally went head hunting and

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of shots of him

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Speaker 2: like punching people and yeah, one of the dirty earl

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Speaker 1: So here's here's Demontekz suspended for the remainder of this season.

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Speaker 1: NFL Vice President Football Operations John Runyon issues a suspension

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Speaker 1: for violation of Rule twelve, Section two, Article nine, which

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Speaker 1: states that it is a file if a player forcibly

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Speaker 1: run Yam wrote in a letter to KZ. With eight

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Speaker 1: forty nine remaining in the second quarter, you were involved

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Speaker 1: in a play that the league considers a serious violation

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Speaker 1: of the playing rules. The video of the play shows

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Speaker 1: that you delivered a forcible blow to the head neck

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Speaker 1: area of cold receiver Michael Pittman Junior, who was in

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Speaker 1: a defenseless posture. You had an unobstructed path to your opponent,

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Speaker 1: and the illegal contact could have been avoided. Your actions

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Speaker 1: were flagrant, and as a result, you were disqualified from

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Speaker 1: the game. First of all, the call to disqualify him,

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Speaker 1: I believe came from New York, which was probably Runyan.

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Speaker 1: So you're being judging in the immediate situation. In that

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Speaker 1: reading that what is case supposed to do? Allow Pittman

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the rules aren't fair. They just aren't.

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Speaker 2: My take on it when it happened live was bang bang, wow,

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Speaker 2: here comes a flag every time, and every time. I

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Speaker 2: mean that that's where the league.

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Speaker 1: Is the problem with the flag. I had no problem

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Speaker 2: Flag, but then when they showed it two three times,

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Speaker 2: I thought an ejection is kind of steep. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fifteen in a flag every time. Of course, I don't

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Speaker 2: the tackler the defensive back supposed to do, And frankly,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the league cares. I mean, so there.

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Speaker 2: I think there's times where the answer to that question

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Speaker 2: is there isn't the right answer. There's nothing for them

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Speaker 1: This is what Tom Brady, who knows a little bit

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Speaker 1: about playing quarterback yep I, had to say about this.

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Speaker 1: Nobody likes seeing players get hurt, but hard hits happen.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks should not be throwing the ball in areas where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: It was a bad ball.

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Speaker 1: the Pittman dove to get the ball. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you supposed to do? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Again, I don't think the league cares what you're supposed

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything Brady said, and not even taking

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Speaker 2: is very bad right now. I'm not having I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is one fraction of you know, their accuracy is

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Speaker 2: they don't know protections. I mean, the quarterback play is

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Speaker 2: not going to change. I mean, it's a league wide

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Speaker 2: problem that the quarterbacks are that they're throwing out there

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Speaker 2: need every advantage they can. Now. I do feel for

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Speaker 1: Can lose two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think an ejection would have been my call.

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Speaker 2: A flag would have been in fifteen yards. But what

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Speaker 2: I don't quite understand and maybe have a better grasp

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Speaker 1: Right, It's been one of these posts after they go

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Speaker 1: have a problem with that, Like if it's not penalized in.

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Speaker 1: Like, that's what was happening to Jaylen Moore and he's

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Speaker 1: getting penalized for you know, lowering his helmet on a block. Again,

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Speaker 1: would you like to see your quarterbacks get their heads

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Speaker 1: whiffs on that block, if he doesn't step up into

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Speaker 1: five nine, of course, his helmet's gonna you know, be

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Speaker 1: up underneath the Jimmy Low. It's gonna be low. Same

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Speaker 1: thing with KZ here that in some of these situations

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, my bottom line is suspending them for

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Speaker 1: Very very This was not a Kareem Jackson situation where

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Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson was fined numerous times and penalizing game for

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Speaker 2: No, no, I I no matter what, they want, head

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Speaker 2: percent get that, and there should be ramifications if there's

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Speaker 2: head shots. But it just seemed extreme to eject them,

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Speaker 2: and it seemed extreme to suspend him the rest of

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Speaker 2: the season without pay. I mean, if if they went

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Speaker 2: back and he's got a history that is more extensive

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Speaker 2: I can live with that.

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Speaker 1: Which is probably what's he's going to have. He's appealing this, okay,

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Speaker 1: as Kareem Jackson did. Kareem Jackson got a three game suspension.

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Speaker 1: KZ got three games and the rest of the season

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Speaker 2: Which is ridiculous, Yeah, is very.

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Speaker 1: They hand out that the running hands out this judgment,

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Speaker 1: it'll end up getting just this game. Well, that's probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if that's a total result, I guess I

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Speaker 2: can live with that. That's what I've done to minus

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Speaker 2: the ejection. And of course they don't care that make

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Speaker 2: a Fitzpatrick's injured, but all of a sudden and that

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, which is life in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Well that's that's I don't know what makes the situations

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is out for next week. Elijah Riley will return

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Speaker 2: Any Neil news, Uh, he's still out.

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Speaker 1: It looks like he's probably done for the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but brutal situation. Just He also mentioned that we could

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Speaker 2: Okay, did was there any mention of Peterson being a

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Speaker 1: No, I think you know he he did lot him

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Speaker 1: Trenton Thompson was also banged up in that game, off

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Speaker 2: It was a nightmare. I mean especially when you look

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, So in the grand scheme

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Speaker 1: didn't have any quarterbacks who were all the quarterbacks? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're taking basically just pull in the middle of your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was bad luck.

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Speaker 1: adjust to that, No, you don't, like you're just casey

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Speaker 1: go in there. They put Thompson in the game. Lead. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it kind of reminded me. I know they're

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Speaker 2: communication dude. Like everybody has contingency plans, and this goes

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Speaker 2: back to position coaches mostly, you know, like your O

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Speaker 2: you know, and they know these things going in What

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Speaker 2: then I got to move my left guard to center

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Speaker 1: Plan to have three guys out of the same position. Exactly,

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Speaker 1: when you only do plays in a row, you only

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Speaker 2: Dress exactly, I mean exactly, I mean strange thing too,

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Speaker 1: As bad as that series was losing those two guys,

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Speaker 1: a past This is one that tomlind brought up and

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Speaker 1: it stood out like a sore thumb. It's third and

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Speaker 1: you just completely miss I'm sorry, Tremisky just completely misses

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the steam Yeah crazy.

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Speaker 1: Right, the Steelers going to the half leading thirteen to seven,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was end of the half couldn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and at the end of the half, I'm

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Speaker 2: Here of the Cardinals drive at the end of the half,

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Speaker 1: Thing they did? Minshew deep pass middle to DJ Montgomery

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Speaker 2: Of course, you're going to tackle that weakness over and

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Speaker 1: And then you get the pass interference penalty on Joey

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Speaker 2: Which frankly I thought was questionable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean when the receiver puts his hands, Porter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they picked up what like seventy five yards on

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Speaker 1: Well, those two plays were thirty four and twenty six yards,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was like a seventy seven yard drive

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Speaker 2: without question, doesn't excuse the second half. I mean the

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Speaker 2: second half they got pushed around and they got beat

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and the wheels came. Usually when

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Speaker 1: you win the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Nicolets didn't even play a clean game. They

437
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Speaker 2: dropped a touchdown, they missed two field goals, they get

438
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Speaker 2: a punk blocked at the one, you know. I mean,

439
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Speaker 2: it wasn't like they were a perfect team, but boy,

440
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Speaker 2: they wanted the line of scrimmage and they found a

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Speaker 2: wound and they just attacked it over and over and over.

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Speaker 1: They could basically in this game whenever they wanted to

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Speaker 1: get an easy completion you know, because they and I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know how it's better for the Steelers. Is the problem

445
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Speaker 2: is you're out of options? Is Miles jacket and were

446
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Speaker 2: coming on a white horse? Is you know, is there

447
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Speaker 2: a safety option?

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Speaker 1: It can't be. It can't be worse of how that went.

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Speaker 2: I right. I mean tight ends that don't catch balls,

450
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Speaker 2: running backs that don't really carry the ball, Pittman being out,

451
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Speaker 2: and it's still such a glaring weakness in the middle

452
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Speaker 2: of the field that you can get you can get

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Speaker 2: yards whatever you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about the the first couple, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first couple of touchdowns, it's it's Zach Moss beating

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Speaker 1: Michael Walker to the pylon. And then it's Zach beating

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Speaker 1: Michael Walker or I'm sorry, mo Ali Cox beating Michael

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Speaker 1: like ema as will be out there in a white

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Speaker 1: jersey and everybody like that for LA games here he

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Speaker 1: is target on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is. It's on tape. It's been on tape.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everyone's gonna do it. Hunter Henry's done nothing

463
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Speaker 2: until he played the Steelers, you know. I mean McBride

464
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Speaker 2: to me is a really good player and was great.

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Speaker 2: But Mo Ali Cox and these tight ends that aren't

466
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Speaker 2: even feature parts of their offense having good success. Backs

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Speaker 2: and tight ends are gonna have consistent matchup problems.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's I don't know what you do about it,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're missing your top two safety or in

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Speaker 1: your top three safeties.

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Speaker 2: Really, oh, you're missing your top three. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think.

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Speaker 1: Because Keanu Neil would be that guy who will be

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Speaker 1: matching up on the tight in.

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Speaker 2: The middle of the field. I mean he's been missed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, considering all the problems at those two positions,

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Speaker 2: even if you could just I mean, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: tell You're not gonna turn Mark Robinson into Brokeland Smith overnight.

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Speaker 2: I mean like you're out of options. Is Miles jack Ready?

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Speaker 2: I have no clue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know a lot of people wanted

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Speaker 1: him out the door at the end of last year,

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Speaker 1: But wouldn't you like to see Trell Edmonds playing that

484
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Speaker 1: spot right now?

485
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Speaker 2: Just a solid middle of the field defender.

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Speaker 1: Season he was very good against opposing tight ends.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: That's not the that's not been the case of late.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a break he is. Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. Matt. We have one game

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Speaker 1: left on the week fifteen schedule. It's the Eagles at

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. We might see two backup quarterbacks in that game.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's still possible. Huh. Hurts is travel.

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Speaker 1: I'm downgraded to the questionable.

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Speaker 2: So I know he didn't travel with the team. I

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Speaker 2: know because he.

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Speaker 1: Went out separately and then got worse overnight last night

501
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Speaker 1: and they downgraded him the questionable today.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if you know the answer to this that

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Speaker 2: I should. Does that mean he just got on United

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Speaker 2: and fly flies by himself? Yeah, first first class, I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: But he's with people in an airport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't care about you know, the regular people

508
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Speaker 1: are fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying the regular people might even get him sicker.

510
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Speaker 2: And I know he doesn't care about getting us regular

511
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Speaker 2: people sick. But he's also walking through an airport.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you know, they could buy you know,

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Speaker 1: two first class seats and he's sitting by himself and

514
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Speaker 1: at the airport. Yeah, well that's I'm just curious how

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Speaker 1: that'll work. I don't I don't think. I don't know

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Speaker 1: this for certain. I don't think they charted his own flight.

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Speaker 2: Out to I thought maybe they would.

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Speaker 1: The private took a private plane as.

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Speaker 2: A private jet him and does he and the owner

520
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Speaker 2: go out. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That could be the case. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I I'm just curious about that.

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Speaker 1: And Gino's questionable, right, Yeah, I mean I assume on

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Speaker 1: on those long trips like that, you get some of

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Speaker 1: those some of those flights where they had like the

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Speaker 1: little pods that you could just get a pod and

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Speaker 1: lay down it alone. So maybe he did that.

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Speaker 2: I would hope he just they could scroll through the

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Speaker 2: airport like I would.

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Speaker 1: But once again, we saw just kind of a silly

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Speaker 1: week in the NFL. I mean, we should have known

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Speaker 1: it was coming after the sixty three to twenty one

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Speaker 1: game Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: That was remarkable. I mean, you talk, we talked about

535
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Speaker 2: on Friday. We did get the other after that, but

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Speaker 2: I mean the Raiders hadn't scored the week before. They

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Speaker 2: get shut out, shut out against the Vikes, who were Okay,

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Speaker 2: I think it was ikes Yeah. Yeah, and they put

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Speaker 2: sixty three on a Chargers team that had no interest

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Speaker 2: in playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Then the Bengals win an overtime against the Vikings Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which was a very even game in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers failed to score in the second half ended

544
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Speaker 1: up getting blown out thirty to thirteen. Then you had

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Speaker 1: the night game where the Lions pretty much just did

546
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Speaker 1: whatever they wanted to do against the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Just Steeler playoff stuff. That's the only good thing that

548
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Speaker 2: happened all week for them was Denver losing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Then you had the Browns Bears game twenty to seventeen.

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Speaker 2: That was a crazy one.

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Speaker 1: The Browns got outplayed in that game.

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Speaker 2: I thought so too.

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Speaker 1: And once again, I mean, everything is just kind of

554
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Speaker 1: falling right for them this year.

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Speaker 2: It really has. I mean, completing that ball to Cooper.

556
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Speaker 1: At the end of the game is laying is Darnell Mooney.

557
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Speaker 2: Ryeah, it was Mooney.

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Speaker 1: It's laying in his belly with his arms around it,

559
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Speaker 1: and the ball pops back out into the air and

560
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Speaker 1: they intercepted it.

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Speaker 2: So I bet a lot of our listeners don't realize this,

562
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Speaker 2: but that's by design. He's Yeah, it's almost like.

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Speaker 1: Have a trail guy because the defenders are taught to

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Speaker 1: bat the ball down.

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Speaker 2: So he's like getting low, like the ball's coming off

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Speaker 2: the backboard, trying to get a rebound. So he's even

567
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Speaker 2: expecting it to some degree, or has been coached to

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Speaker 2: at least be aware of it. Now, it's not an

569
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Speaker 2: easy play. I mean it's a bang bang, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: sixty yards on the field. But he easily could have

571
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Speaker 2: caught it. And I mean the Browns didn't run the

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Speaker 2: ball at all in that game, and Flacco was flat

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Speaker 2: out bad for three quarters of it.

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Speaker 1: A second, now, a second Flacco is bad because all

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Speaker 1: I hear this week, Well, Flacco threw for three hundred yards.

576
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Speaker 1: He also through three interceptions, one which was returned for

577
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. Yeah, he did not did not play well.

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Speaker 2: No, and in a way it works out well for

579
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Speaker 2: the Bears because they still have an early pick. They're

580
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Speaker 2: not going, you know whatever. They didn't try to lose,

581
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Speaker 2: but it might just be the Browns are getting bounces.

582
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Speaker 2: I mean, good for them. There's an art to winning

583
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Speaker 2: football games. I mean, if that's how the Steelers want

584
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Speaker 2: to be, like a win's a win, and of course that's.

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Speaker 1: The way get it. I mean, no doubt they've been

586
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Speaker 1: very fortunate with those.

587
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Speaker 2: Picking on the Browns because it's a division team. It's

588
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: just but it's they've gotten some things to go their way, which, hey,

589
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Speaker 2: so you need that.

590
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Speaker 1: Then the Buccaneers basically blow out the Packers at home.

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Speaker 2: They're falling apart.

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield puts up a perfect passer rating in that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Texans are you know this real quick? Baker's played

594
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Speaker 1: three games three years in a row in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I brought it up to you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.

597
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Speaker 1: The Titans take a thirteen nothing lead on the Texans,

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Speaker 1: who don't have CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud no or Tank to hell or right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or Nico Collins right on down the line, and

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Speaker 1: then Anderson didn't even play that game, No six. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they end up they end up losing the game nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixteen in overtime.

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Speaker 2: The Titans lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Titans end up losing in overtime. The Dolphins

606
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: blow out the Jets, who don't screw who just blew

607
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: out the Texans the week before that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, they scored.

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Speaker 1: It's exact opposite of the of what happened with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders don't score against the Vikings, the Vikings win

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00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: that game. Then the Vikings come out and lose to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals in overtime. You have the Titans earlier, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: the Jets beating the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Thirty to six badly, right right, all.

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Speaker 1: Thirty points in the second half.

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Speaker 2: And they can't even move the ball at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like three yards.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't do it. Right. You have the Texans beating the Titans,

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Speaker 1: who had beaten the Dolphins the week before.

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Speaker 2: Ran the ball, well, rushed the passer, but crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, these this is this is this is the NFL

622
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: in a in a nutshell right here. Texans beat Titans,

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Speaker 1: the Titans nineteen sixteen. The Titans were coming off a

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Speaker 1: win over the Dolphins.

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00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Right who they destroyed?

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Speaker 1: Right, the Dolphins destroyed the Jets destroy who just destroyed

627
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Speaker 1: the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the Jecko and hide of the Texans.

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Speaker 1: And wonder why I look at like you said, there

630
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: aren't any you know, that team's not good or this

631
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: team's not good. Yeah, by by NFL saying, I have

632
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: When I look at the NFL, I look at years

633
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: past and say, which of these teams in this group

634
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Speaker 1: would be considered a very good football team. Yeah, in

635
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: prevision tender, there's one. There's one this year that I

636
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: look at and said that team will compete against any

637
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: are Yeah, yeah, that's a niner. There's some there's some

638
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: other teams that are are good.

639
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I can write stories where five other teams

640
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl and they think I can get

641
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: the five. I wanna shot the Eagles do tonight. No,

642
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're one of the five or not.

643
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if they either.

644
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if Dallas can be one of them.

645
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: Not if you can't win on the road, right, and

646
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: they got hammered, Yeah, well they make they do stupid

647
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: stuff too, like some of the penalty and penalties and

648
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: things that they had, Yes, and they to sustained drives.

649
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean they had the one for running into the kicker.

650
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: All the guy had to do is he jumps into

651
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: the air and the ball goes like basically between his

652
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: legs like he doe.

653
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: And they were lost anyway, I mean, they got destroyed.

654
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: But man, it's it is a crazy league, and that's

655
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: what they want. They want parody. They want every game

656
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Speaker 2: to count, and it absolutely does. I don't know how

657
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: this reflects on the Steelers.

658
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: Well, you guys said this should happen, and that should happen.

659
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Speaker 1: This is the league.

660
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Speaker 2: This is the league.

661
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Speaker 1: This is the league.

662
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Speaker 2: I mean, we both as much as I'm fond of

663
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm as good a team as I think the Bills are,

664
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Speaker 2: and we've joked about it for weeks. I don't feel

665
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: bad at all saying I buried them in the Bengals

666
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: way back when, because that's just math. I mean, they

667
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: don't have any tie breaker and they still have an

668
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: uphill climb so to Cincinnati, and then Cincinnati lost Borough.

669
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Speaker 2: I'm like, they're probably a rap, you know, good for

670
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: that at one point.

671
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, you know, now they go out

672
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Speaker 1: and lose. Maybe they don't lose again, I don't know.

673
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Speaker 2: I mean, their schedule. I'm pretty close to ready to

674
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Speaker 2: bury the Steelers, and I'm sure many are. But I

675
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 2: buried the Bengals, I buried the Bills, I buried all

676
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 2: these teams. I mean the league is bonkers.

677
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Speaker 1: It more so this year than any here I can remember. Yeah,

678
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: maybe there's a whole there's a reason why when you

679
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: look at the standings. We know who the really bad

680
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: teams are.

681
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: One everybody else is in the Marolina would ever win again.

682
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Speaker 1: And they'd beat a Falcons team. That that thing to play.

683
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Speaker 2: For everything everything that makes me insane too, Like I

684
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: used to think Arsa Smith's seat should be a little warm,

685
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: but not hot. You know he's doing some things. It's

686
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: like that that game was in a swamp. I get it,

687
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: and Ritter's bad. But you get Bije on the ball

688
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: like seven times total that you use a high pick

689
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: on and London gets like three targets after lighting people up, like,

690
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: get the ball in your good guy's hands, what are

691
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: you doing?

692
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Speaker 1: So they've used in the last three seasons top ten

693
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Speaker 1: picks on Bijeon Robinson, Kyle Pitts, and Drake London. Yeah,

694
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: those guys. Bijeon Robinson got seven carries.

695
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable, and I was at like fourteen.

696
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: He got three targets in the passing game, so ten

697
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: total attempts at touches.

698
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

699
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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts another top ten pick. Sure they threw the

700
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: hit to him four four targets, he cut three of

701
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: them for thirty seven yards. Drake London, another top ten pick,

702
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: got three targets, caught two of them for twenty four yards.

703
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm their owner, I'm going, what are

704
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: we doing? Why do we use these picks on these guys?

705
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: This draft lineman? Then you know what I mean? Corderoll, Patterson, Augier,

706
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 2: Jean U Smith. Those are the guys getting the ball, Like,

707
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: what are we doing? Like Pits, I'm not, I'm not.

708
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Speaker 1: I was.

709
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: I love, love love Pits coming out and I thought

710
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: he was a special player. He still might be, but

711
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: I might just be wrong about him. He may end

712
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: up being not good. London, I know is good. I mean,

713
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: London would be the top receiver on many teams, and

714
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: he's flashed out a couple times. I think it was

715
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Speaker 2: even last week. He went crazy, Yeah, bijon special. I'll

716
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: go to my graves saying.

717
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Speaker 1: Why would you draft a running back in the top

718
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: ten and then never give him the ball? Ever? Give

719
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: him the ball in a game? That Patterson in a

720
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Speaker 1: game that was screaming, hey, how about we run the

721
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Speaker 1: football in this game?

722
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: Exactly? I mean it's it's three field goals in a touchdown.

723
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: We're the only scores in the game, and the whole

724
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: game was like, there's three nothing forever, you know, I mean,

725
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: I know there was weather and your quarterback's terrible.

726
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Robbinson, I mean, right now, the only thing that

727
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: you can count on in the NFL is that the

728
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are going to continue to win. I'm

729
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: starting to feel that way about the Ravens at this point.

730
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty confident because they don't but they have

731
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: some problem they dominant doing it there.

732
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Speaker 1: No, they're a good team. I think they're the second

733
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: best team. I don't think they're a great team though.

734
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you said about in any era, any year,

735
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: is this version of the Ravens right there with the

736
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Speaker 2: top teams.

737
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Speaker 1: I think this isn't the best Ravens team that I've seen,

738
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: but they're probably the second best team in the league

739
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Speaker 1: right now.

740
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: I think they are, and I think they can win

741
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

742
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they can do that.

743
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure only one team can. I mean,

744
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: there's more than one team to go in the superow

745
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: there's clearly who the best team.

746
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: There will be two teams in the Super Bowl.

747
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure they actually going to have somebody

748
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: representing them, And I don't know one hundred percent that

749
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: the Niners are going to go, So I do think somebody,

750
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: maybe the Eagles or Cowboys or Buyings or somebody could go.

751
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean it is the ball is not round, it

752
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: takes funny bounce.

753
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they could get hit with their injuries too

754
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: or who knows. But the Ravens good for them. I

755
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: think Lamar's right in the hunt of the m VP.

756
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: I think he's playing as well as ever. They've changed

757
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: his style, but their their tackles are rotating in and out.

758
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Walker and Allen good guys, but they looked

759
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: like superstars. I mean the pressure he was under was

760
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: time and time again. Now they've lost another running back,

761
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: and say they lost another playmaker, Andrews already out. They

762
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: lost Mitchell, who's really their best back, more most dynamic.

763
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: So they're far from perfect too, But I mean they're good.

764
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: They're real good.

765
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I've had people you said the Ravens

766
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: weren't going to be good this year. I thought their offense.

767
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: I didn't think their defense would be as good a

768
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: as it has been. I was wrong on the defense,

769
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: that's been the surprise. And I thought the offense would

770
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: take some time to adjust, which it did. Uh. Fortunately

771
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: for them, their defense was a was able to carry

772
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: them a little bit.

773
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm on record saying of the

774
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: eight units in this division offenses and defenses, I thought

775
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: the Ravens d would be number eight. Yeah, I mean

776
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: it might be number one.

777
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: Turns out it was the Steelers offense.

778
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, number Yeah, number eight wasn't right.

779
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: We can't, I mean can't argue it can are You

780
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: know that there's work to be done there. But it's

781
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: such a time to make of Dallas. I mean they

782
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: got destroyed, destroyed. Yeah, I mean we've often talked to

783
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: Miami and Dallas don't have signature wins. At least they

784
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: beat the Eagles last week, and I don't want to

785
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: hear this is a letdown game. We talked about that

786
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: the Bills. The Bills could have had a leftdown Yeah,

787
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they just beat Kansas City.

788
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: But road versus home Dallas is now becoming a huge thing.

789
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: Road versus Home Bills is a real thing.

790
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: Lions, same thing with them. Yes, these are all top

791
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: ten teams at a minimum, shouldn't be that big a discrepancy. Browns, Yeah,

792
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: that's true.

793
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: I just I just think the league as a whole,

794
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: the product this year is not as good as it

795
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: has been even it's certainly not from what it was

796
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: ten years ago. But it's not even as good this

797
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: year as it was the previous couple of seasons, when

798
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: we had multiple teams like, oh, that team could win

799
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

800
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: That team could like I mean the Burrow, Allen and

801
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: Mahomes led teams, Yeah, just by themselves, were like, whoa,

802
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: all those teams are could win it?

803
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: And so much of it right now is the quarterback

804
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: of course?

805
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, I mean it's a problem. I also

806
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: that aside one hundredercent agree with him. Also opened to

807
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: the idea that, like we thought before the season opened,

808
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: the AFC might be noticeably better than the NFC too.

809
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some of that too, Like all these teams

810
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: beating each other, there's some attrition there.

811
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all the seven and six teams. And

812
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: I'm not say in Houston's great or Indie or Jacksonville

813
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: or but they're all quality.

814
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: They're all middling teams that could beat any and the

815
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Steelers fall into that category that if things go right

816
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: for you, you're gonna win the game. If they don't,

817
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose a game against some of these teams.

818
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: And that's just the reality of the NFL right now.

819
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the NFC has as many of those.

820
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. We're gonna get to

821
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

822
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

823
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824
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826
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827
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828
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830
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: just having a good conversation off the air about this

831
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals team. I watched that game from the press

832
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: box on Saturday, and the Vikings turned the ball over

833
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: in the red zone in the first half a couple

834
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: of times, including one by Nick Mullins that was as

835
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: bad as any interception I've ever seen a quarterback throw.

836
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: Like, what are you thinking when you did that?

837
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: He's falling to the he's being sacked, he's falling, he's

838
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: basically parallel to the ground, about three inches from the ground,

839
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: and just throws the ball forward. It hits on the

840
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: defensive player's helmet and falls into his chest. And I

841
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: see he's over on the sidelines telling the coach, No,

842
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: I threw that ball. That's that's not a fumble recovery. Yeah,

843
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: it's an interception because he caught it. You shouldn't have

844
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: thrown it, dummy.

845
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: You never see that interception. But what going through? What's

846
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: there to gain? I mean, even if.

847
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: It's even if it's a five year lost, you're still

848
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: in field goal.

849
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: We're still in field goal range, right, Like, no, the situation,

850
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: And I said it right before we hit went back

851
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: on the air, But we were having a good conversation

852
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: last segment about is the lead? Is the product as

853
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: good as it used to be? Obviously, quarterback plays an issue, YadA, YadA, YadA.

854
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: But I felt like the Chase Daniels of the world, Yeah,

855
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: maybe we're short on those guys that are NFL players

856
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: that last a long time. The left witch the Batch,

857
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: the grad Kowski that just wouldn't do that, you know

858
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like maybe that's where the problem is.

859
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Maybe there's as many star quarterbacks as there's ever been,

860
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: and I know they're young as a whole, but when

861
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: those guys go out, you used to be able to

862
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: turn the left witch and he wouldn't kill.

863
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: You at least.

864
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's I don't know if it's a

865
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: hero ball thing or again, I feel old, like these

866
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: young whippers good way they think they're doing. Get off

867
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: my lawn, you know, but like, know who you are.

868
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: I mean, Chase Daniel hosts a podcast now and he's like,

869
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: I knew exactly who I was. I'm not gonna star here.

870
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell Herbert what I know here and there.

871
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna learn from Breeze when I'm in New Orleans

872
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna try things I can't do. Don't

873
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: go and lose the game, right, and then you get

874
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: six million a year and you graduated last ten years

875
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: and move on.

876
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it happens to all quarterbacks. Things happen.

877
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a game. It's physical. The Trevor

878
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Lawrence the Jags yeah. I mean he's he's running with

879
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: the football. God loved me. He's out there, he's playing on.

880
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: The circle and he does the.

881
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: You know the old play fake at the at the

882
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: line of We've seen Josh Allen do it a hundred times.

883
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: Ben used to do it. You fake the throw it

884
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: before you get to the line of scrimmage.

885
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: Martin Angel used to do it to me in the

886
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: in the in the school room, and I jump up

887
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: behind and run right past me, get right recess.

888
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: But that is he's trying to tuck the ball and

889
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: he loses it.

890
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: And just yeah blah. But they also at the end

891
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: of the half, they can't figure out how to keep

892
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: the ball in bounds. They just leave three points on

893
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: the field. They missed two field goals, which is the

894
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: same as a turnover as well. Like they were never

895
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: really in that game, But there's four awful plays where

896
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: you're handing the ball to a good football team.

897
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: Well, then we're in the game at the point of

898
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: that it was three, that's the point it fumbled it

899
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: and you're in field goal rights.

900
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: That's true. I mean, we often talked about Steeler games

901
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: that if these three bad things don't happen. The game

902
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: doesn't go that way, and that's true for all games.

903
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: And I'm sure the Jags gonna have that same conversation.

904
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: Like they were making they kicks early in that game.

905
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: They were moving the ball better than Baltimore ball. They

906
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: just weren't taking advantage of it because they turned the

907
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: ball over or do something. You know, it's just something

908
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: silly like that that you can't do it. You just

909
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: can't survive those things.

910
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: You can't go to the half throwing the ball in

911
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: bounds and then just watching the clock tick off when

912
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: it could have been three and what's a close game?

913
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: I mean, and I love Lawrence, but there's another trend.

914
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: We just talked about some teams these road home trends

915
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: or it's really starting to pick up. Weather with Lawrence

916
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: has been a problem for him in the NFL. He

917
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: needs to learn how to handle that better. It rains

918
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: a lot in Jacksonville. Yeah, you know, it's it's Florida.

919
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, I really think that's why Mike Tomlin

920
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: made the change of quarterback more so than anything else

921
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: that hey, it's not is a lot of Steeler fans

922
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: want to just give Rudolph a chance that's not what

923
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: this is about. No, this is about trying to win

924
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: this game.

925
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a style of play.

926
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, we can't do that.

927
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: I think Rudolph's more than Chase Daniel. We talked to him,

928
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: you know, as opposed to Mitch might still think, hey,

929
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: I can become a starter, I can become the third

930
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: pick in the draft or whatever, and you reach my

931
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: potential when I'm gonna play that way, Well, that's not

932
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: what you need.

933
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: There'll be four or five throws during a game that

934
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky will make that Mason Rudolf probably can't.

935
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: But he won't try them.

936
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: But he won't try them. That's the key. Everyone will

937
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: try to do something that.

938
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: He can't do, right, talk it away, dump it off,

939
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: throat in seats, whatever, you know, right. And so that's

940
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: important because if Mitch has proven or sure seems to

941
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: going down this road that of those five attempts that

942
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: Rudolph won't attempt, one of them is probably gonna be bad,

943
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: Two of them will probably be in completions, two will

944
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: probably be good some sort of ratio along that point.

945
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: But the two good ones aren't good enough to.

946
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: They don't they don't yeah, they don't balance.

947
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: Out good enough.

948
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there's not enough. One thing that I

949
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: always tell my baseball players there's a reason they call

950
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: root team plays routine.

951
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: And Tomlin says, it's all you're expected to.

952
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Make them every single time. And if you can't make

953
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: the routine play.

954
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: All the shortstop needs to be an out right.

955
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need the Sports Center play.

956
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah if you if you get me one of those

957
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: a game, but you boot five routine plays, you can't

958
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: play shortstop for me. I'm sorry.

959
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't watched baseball long enough. But like

960
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: Ozzie Smith, making plays deep and the hole is great.

961
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: But if they routine plays, yeah, you got still gonna

962
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: get all the regular outs too.

963
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Because nothing makes it harder on a team than or

964
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: a pitcher than when you get an easy ground ball

965
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: on the infield and you can in the in the

966
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: infield or kicks it or throws the ball over the

967
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: first baseman's head or you know whatever. It's the same

968
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: thing in football. Nothing will drive coaches more crazy than

969
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: when you draw something up. You say this all the time, Yeah,

970
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: you draw all week, it's it's there, and you overthrow

971
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: the guy, yeah, or you don't throw.

972
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: It, or you check it down, or I'm just not

973
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: going to do that. You know, like people can live

974
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: with once in a while. Augie Smith's gonna throw it away,

975
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: or I mean you hit the ball to him over

976
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: the course of the year, or Larry Fitzgerald's gonna drop

977
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: a pass or you know. I mean, like, no one's perfect.

978
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: We get that. But when you turn down what's there? Yeah, yeah,

979
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: or you can't deliver.

980
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: When we ran this play fifteen times this week in

981
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: practice and then you turn it down, it was there,

982
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: it was open.

983
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: I remember yesterday when I told you when the safety crashes,

984
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: throw it over his head. And the safety crashed and

985
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: you went the other direction.

986
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Yea.

987
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: Even if it's a completion, people think it's a good play.

988
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: But it is. Or it's third and and you've got

989
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: guys open underneath to again move the football, and you

990
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: turn it down to take a shot down the field.

991
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like that's move the stick, yeah, move the sticks.

992
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I do think Rudolph is better equipped. I

993
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: don't know if he's a better player or not than Trubisky.

994
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: I really don't, And I'm not sure who's more accurate

995
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: I know Trubisky's more gifted, but I believe, knowing what

996
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: we know on December eighteenth, watching both guys play a

997
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: fair amount of football in a Steeler uniform, Rudolph fit's

998
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: the script better?

999
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not like people look back at that

1000
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: game against the Lions back in twenty twenty one that

1001
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: he started. I'm just gonna call that game up here

1002
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: real quick here while we talk about this, right, Rudolph, Yeah,

1003
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: he was thirty to fifty for two hundred and forty

1004
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: two hours. People forget that was a like kind of

1005
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: a driving rain storm in that game.

1006
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that was here, that was here.

1007
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he didn't know he was starting until less

1008
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: than twenty four hours before game. Warming up to me, Yeah,

1009
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: because Ben Roethlisberger, of course, was supposed to start that

1010
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: game and then came, you know, put out with COVID. Uh.

1011
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: So here's what he Here's what he had available to him.

1012
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson. Okay, yeah, his second most targeted receiver that day.

1013
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: Do you know who it was?

1014
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember get twelve.

1015
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Targets in the game twelve Deontay Johnson had had thirteen?

1016
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: Was Ray Ray McLeod.

1017
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I remember that era, and now, yeah.

1018
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: He was out there a lot, and you had Friarmuth

1019
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: and James Washington, Eric Ebron.

1020
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: Is that friar MOUs rookie year though, Yeah, okay, so

1021
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: he's a little bit of a unknown.

1022
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: Dogie Harris had twenty six carries for one hundred and

1023
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: five yards. He also caught four passes for twenty eight

1024
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: So you had that in your hip pocket.

1025
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, it's his rookie years, Friarmus rookie year.

1026
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: But really you and then Benny Snell had touches in

1027
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: that game, as did Caleb Blige. Like that's what you're

1028
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: working at. Derek Watt had had a catch at target

1029
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: in that game, like.

1030
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: You, Deonta and Nay and a young friar Mouth.

1031
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a rookie na too, you know.

1032
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: So that's what he was out there working with. And

1033
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: you know they should have won the game. Nothing that

1034
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Rudolph had lost them that game.

1035
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: They were in it until the end.

1036
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: They were in it until the end. They had two fumbles,

1037
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: one by Farm with one by Deontay Johnson in Lion's

1038
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: territory one at the end of the fourth quarter. One

1039
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: in overtime job.

1040
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just do your job from that position

1041
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: right now.

1042
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: Just win the game. I don't care what the numbers

1043
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, win the game.

1044
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 2: And one thing I will say, and this isn't pickt

1045
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: on picket, but Rudolph has been better at throwing touchdown

1046
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: passes than Pickett has been. I mean he has. He

1047
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: has some touchdown passes in his car sixteen.

1048
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: Sixteen in the touchdown passes in his career against eleven

1049
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: interceptions over how many games or something he started ten

1050
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: He's a peart.

1051
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: Okay, like yesterday, doesn't really care Saturday, yes.

1052
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: And the interceptions, if you look at the interceptions, I

1053
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: mean a large portion of those came backup quarterbacks.

1054
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: I always hate when people cite x per game because

1055
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: then like Rudolph came in for two minutes or Kneil's

1056
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 2: on the ball or whatever, and you know that doesn't calend.

1057
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: He comes in hands off. You know.

1058
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: Now, if you look at if you look at his

1059
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: his career games, his starts really some of the best

1060
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: non Ben Roethlisberger starts over the past. See a few years.

1061
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: He is going against him, I think in public perception,

1062
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: and I'm guilty of this too, is the Rudolph Duck year.

1063
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: Well they're not the same guy, and they didn't do

1064
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: the same thing on the field. I mean, he's better

1065
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 2: than Duck.

1066
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: He started getting against the Bengals. This was his second

1067
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: career start in twenty twenty one or I'm sorry twenty nineteen,

1068
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: twenty four of twenty eight for two hundred and twenty

1069
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: nine yards and two touchdowns and take getting a heartbeat

1070
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: if you.

1071
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: Roll that out there this week against the Bengals, could

1072
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: take it.

1073
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: He started a game against Miami that year. He was

1074
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty six or two fifty one, two touchdowns

1075
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: in an interception. They won that game twenty seven fourteen.

1076
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: If the Steelers had that stat line from their quarterback

1077
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: every game this year, wow, they'd be they'd.

1078
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: Be a good shape before And again, I just went

1079
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: through some of the guys he was playing with in

1080
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: those things, like there was no George Pickens firemouths or

1081
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: rookie like and hey, I'm not the neig I didn't

1082
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: even have This is twenty nineteen. They didn't have those.

1083
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: Guys Steelers yet. Yeah, everyone remembers the game in Cleveland

1084
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 2: where Garrett's smacked him over the head with the helmet.

1085
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: And now it's a brutal memory, but it's a standalone

1086
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Speaker 2: game where the whole nation saw and everybody remembers that part.

1087
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Speaker 1: But I remember thinking that, remember who he was playing?

1088
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: More than that a game.

1089
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Speaker 2: I was like, I remember thinking early in the game,

1090
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: like this poor guy. He had dudes that were off

1091
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: the practice squad. Like I had never heard of White

1092
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: the receiver that they plucked off the practice squad till

1093
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: that game or whatever, Like I'm like, who is that? Yeah,

1094
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: he couldn't even get him a line. I mean, they

1095
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: couldn't even align, right.

1096
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Speaker 1: Johnny Houlton was starting that game. He had a game

1097
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Speaker 1: against the.

1098
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Speaker 2: Forum in that situation, like, he has no chance to succeed.

1099
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: They beat the Ram seventeen twelve. He was twenty two

1100
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: of thirty eight for two hundred and forty two yards

1101
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. You'll take those games. Yeah, you know

1102
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: the game against Cleveland that they lost where he this

1103
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: is the helmet game. Here's twenty three or forty four

1104
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Speaker 1: for two hundred and twenty one yards one touchdown. Now

1105
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: that was the game. He threw four interceptions in that game.

1106
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Speaker 1: So you look at that total picture of his of

1107
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 1: his career. That case started sixteen touchdown passes, eleven interceptions. Really,

1108
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: if you take that one out of the equation, it's

1109
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Speaker 1: fifteen and seven.

1110
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Speaker 2: I mean take that. No one's saying he's Johnny United, No,

1111
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: but that. I just remember that Thursday game vividly. It

1112
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Speaker 2: was like on the road, I think there was some

1113
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: weather on a super short week thrown to me and you,

1114
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Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't like Ben would succeed

1115
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: in this. I'm not sure el Way would succeed. This

1116
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 2: is an awful situation. You can't block Miles Garrett.

1117
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Speaker 1: Anyways, we're going to get to another break that's going

1118
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Speaker 1: to do it for our number one. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lallie. You're listening to the Drive on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with our number two

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Speaker 1: right after this