WEBVTT - 1-on-1 | Fred Katz on Kobe, Wizards, Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to No Dunks. I'm tas Melie here with the Fellows, Skeets,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Lee and j D. And we were very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to have in studio Washington Wizards, beat writer for The

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic and host of Wizards After Dark, a Wizard's postgame podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to cover the Thunder. He loves a good pun.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Katz is in the building. Fred, thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing to be with the guys to do

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<v Speaker 2>the pun gun. That's just an incredible experience for me.

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<v Speaker 1>We will get to that later. First, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>start with the sad news, the most important news that

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<v Speaker 1>rock the NBA on Sunday, and you were down at

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawks and the Wizards, touching stuff happening all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place with the violation, the twenty four second violation,

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<v Speaker 1>eight second violation to start the game, Tray Young wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the number eight for those two violations and then sharing

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<v Speaker 1>a stories postgame. Just give us the feeling of what

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<v Speaker 1>it was like to be in that building.

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<v Speaker 2>It it was so weird because like and I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about this with people last night. You

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<v Speaker 2>when you go through tragedy, you kind of want to

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<v Speaker 2>turn to things as distractions, whatever those distractions might be

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<v Speaker 2>in your life, and for a lot of us, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just sports. And it was weird going to the sporting event,

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<v Speaker 2>but having that be the opposite of the distraction, having

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<v Speaker 2>that be the memorial, you kind of didn't know where

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<v Speaker 2>to turn. And it's weird because everybody you talked to

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<v Speaker 2>either knew Kobe or knew someone who knew him, knew

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<v Speaker 2>his family.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such a just just dark and horrible experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for just everybody involved, it felt like nobody

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to be there and how how could you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>After going through it, though, do you think looking back

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<v Speaker 1>that they should have played the games? Was it therapeutic

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<v Speaker 1>for people? Was it good for players to just get

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<v Speaker 1>thrown into the fire to be able to instead of

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<v Speaker 1>be sitting at home and grieving, to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be with their colleagues who were sharing the same experience

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<v Speaker 1>as them.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've thought about it a lot. I kind of understand

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<v Speaker 2>both perspectives. Like for Isaiah Thomas, No, like Isaiah Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>he was super close with Kobe, and he said after

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<v Speaker 2>the game that he thought the games should have been canceled,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a perfectly legit way to feel. I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody kind of grieves in their own way. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there were players like I think it was Kawhi right

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<v Speaker 2>who said last night that Kobe would have wanted them

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<v Speaker 2>to play. So I think everybody just kind of grieves

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<v Speaker 2>in their own way. Kyrie Irving, you know, missed last

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<v Speaker 2>night's game for personal reasons, reasons, like everybody just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of needs to handle it in their own way. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the league could have done, because it

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<v Speaker 2>must have been I imagine, just so difficult that Rockets

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<v Speaker 2>game was about to tip off when when the news

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<v Speaker 2>came out, and it must have just been so difficult

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<v Speaker 2>from a logistical perspective to to figure out what to

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<v Speaker 2>do in such a short time frame. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's worth like making any sort of criticism of

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<v Speaker 2>the league because I don't I can't imagine a way

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<v Speaker 2>that you could handle that well, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I imagine it's different for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've you've already written about the game, your experience there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mind sharing with us here the Player's Tribune

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<v Speaker 1>story about Kobe that you shared in your article today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I love that story.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was I was chatting with with with someone

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<v Speaker 2>who worked at the Players Tribune like years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had this conversation with this person like must have

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<v Speaker 2>been it was. It was years ago for sure, not

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<v Speaker 2>too long after Kobe wrote to your Basketball. This person

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<v Speaker 2>told me that, you know, during Players Tribune, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the players aren't aren't writing a lot of That's what unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 2>just hacking away at the computers. It's it's unbelievable that

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<v Speaker 2>like Kevin Duran is not Walt Whitman.

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<v Speaker 1>I believed Chris Humphrey's swimming stories though I believe I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably did.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably did Chris Humphreys being a being a legitimate,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing swimmer and beating Michael Phelps. It is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most incredible niche NBA things. But yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 2>players don't really read that. So they'll do an interview

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<v Speaker 2>and and a ghost writer will will pennant first, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>first person, or or maybe they'll write something and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>get heavily edited and they'll go in and that makes

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<v Speaker 2>perfect sense because it's all the stuff on there is

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<v Speaker 2>really well written. So so it makes perfect sense. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this person told me that the the only piece that

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<v Speaker 2>they ever received, and the person was like, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to run this. This is perfect, don't edit it. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Was when Kobe sent in to your basketball Wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, this is really good. It's Kobe, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what are we going to do? I guess we just

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<v Speaker 2>we run it. They ran it and then he turns

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<v Speaker 2>it into an aimute short and it wins an oscar

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like this this, and I just think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I didn't know Kobe, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>think it's so from everything that you hear about him,

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<v Speaker 2>read about him, the way he talked about the mom

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<v Speaker 2>of mentality is a lifestyle and not a basketball persona.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I always thought that story was incredible, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I hit up this person yesterday and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to let me tell this story. It is

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<v Speaker 2>it is such a great way to kind of remember

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<v Speaker 2>his character, I thought, And so I wrote that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>That was phenomenal. It was great in clue that there

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<v Speaker 1>are stories coming out of that Hawk's Wizard's game as well,

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<v Speaker 1>just showing how as you said, the mom mentality dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to what he did dedicated also now to his in

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<v Speaker 1>the past few years since his retirement, to his children,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trey Jung talked about postgame how Gigi Giana, his

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<v Speaker 1>late daughter now was loving the way Trey Young was

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<v Speaker 1>playing basketball. So Kobe reached out to Trey Young's trainer

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<v Speaker 1>and made that connection for Gigi to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>train with that trainer because he wanted to see that connection.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted that for his child. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was a great story, and that's how their sort of relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe and Trey Young's relationship sort of blossomed, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was great. I don't know how a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys stood on the podium post game and verbally eloquently

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<v Speaker 1>were able to tell their stories, but Trey was, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it was all in all. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was therapeutic and it was very very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>for people, but I think it was sort of it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good thing in the end. But we can

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<v Speaker 1>move on now to a little wizard's talk. What we

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<v Speaker 1>what we booked you in here for everyone's favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>a while ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Wizard stop, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Love, honestly in all honesty that we had because we

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<v Speaker 4>came in late last night to do the podcast talking

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<v Speaker 4>about Kobe and trying to wrap our heads around our fields.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I think, like most people I'm sure listening

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<v Speaker 4>to this today or whenever they're listening to it, are

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<v Speaker 4>still like in a funk, sad, obviously grieving. I know

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<v Speaker 4>I am, But I will say I love seeing Fred

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<v Speaker 4>Katz's face in this studio. He's got a great He's

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<v Speaker 4>just a lovable looking guy, smiley guy. So I'm happy

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, by no means what we're moving on

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<v Speaker 4>already or stuff like that, but it is a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit back to business, that MoMA mentality. And I'm happy

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<v Speaker 4>that you are here today, even around these weird, unfortunate circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm very excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you guys, you guys provide a wonderful experience,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that you make people laugh when they need

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<v Speaker 2>to try.

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<v Speaker 4>So we tried to. We got a great Kobe story

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<v Speaker 4>from le last night asking about the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to dig it up if

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<v Speaker 5>I can. If I can, You've got the clip. I've

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<v Speaker 5>got the clip. I just it's on a drive. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>trying to see if I can access the drives.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh JD.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, you're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk. Let's talk some Wizards like Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not as depressing as it seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the season, I think, yeah, fred Zog, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. That's that's that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>True because I think there are some likable characters. It has.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been a positive viewing experience for the casual

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<v Speaker 1>NBA fan too. They look, they watch some of these

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<v Speaker 1>games and they say, WHOA, I like these guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mura very likable guy. You mentioned the new Isaiah Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>There's stories like Davis Burton's, Garrison Matthews. Garrison Matthews. In general,

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<v Speaker 1>has covering the Wizard's been fun this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it actually has. It has. The defenses is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred and fifty two On Sunday they gave

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<v Speaker 1>up to the Atlanta Hawks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm pretty sure that the Hawks and Wizards have

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<v Speaker 2>been involved in every one hundred and fifty point games

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<v Speaker 2>so far this year, so that one of them would

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<v Speaker 2>score one fifty two against the other is pretty perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, it's it's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean John Collins had about seven hundred sixty eight

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<v Speaker 2>dunks in the first three minutes of that game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had no reaction to them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, this is what it's supposed to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>But they what's weird about it, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tells like a tale of expectations and how they affect

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<v Speaker 2>the way we watch things is that this year's team

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<v Speaker 2>is pacing to win fewer games than last year's team,

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<v Speaker 2>which won thirty two. This year they're fifteen and thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet the vibe could not be more different this

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<v Speaker 2>year than it was last year. I mean, last year

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<v Speaker 2>was a really depressing locker room. They kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>strife at the beginning of the year, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it just kind of turned very apathetic and going

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<v Speaker 2>through the motions. By the end of the year, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>you could tell, was very excited for the season to end.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everybody, not just the players, just everybody. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching staff, Scott Brooks, everybody was just like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>move on to next year and make this happen.

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<v Speaker 3>They tore it down, brought in all new people.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a good locker room now, they get along

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<v Speaker 2>really well. Look, they don't play defense, but like this

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<v Speaker 2>is the classic case of just not having defensive ability.

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<v Speaker 2>They play hard, they try really hard. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>last year they didn't play defense because they just wouldn't rotate.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Green had like an eleven game stretch where he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have an offensive rebound. He was playing the four

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire time.

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<v Speaker 4>It was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was demagio, like it was amazing, and like that

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<v Speaker 2>was the vibe last year, but this year, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're giving up one forty, but they're they're scoring, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty five and Jordan McCrae is randomly going for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four off the bench, And it's likable personalities and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a different sort of feeling, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Do they talk about their defensive struggles like is just

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<v Speaker 4>a known thing within the locker room even.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, we're just yeah, yeah, Like I think one

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<v Speaker 2>of them could be listening to this podcast and hearing

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<v Speaker 2>everything I just said. Instead of coming up to me

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and being like, what are you doing talking about

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<v Speaker 2>us like that, they would just be non long be

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, right. They're very they're very self aware. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they've given up enough points that I haven't checked

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<v Speaker 2>where their defensive efficiency is after last night, But they

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<v Speaker 2>had the second worst since the NBA started tracking per

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<v Speaker 2>possession data in nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to last night, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess after giving up one fifty two, it might

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<v Speaker 2>have gone out well.

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<v Speaker 1>When David Aldridge, the Great Hall of Famer David Aldridge

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<v Speaker 1>on the Athletic is using the acronym DFL dead fucking

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<v Speaker 1>last to explain the wizard's efficiency on defense. That is something.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that he used that in a story and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that. I said that out loud yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>while I was reading it. I was like, what, there's

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<v Speaker 1>something going on, but you said that STREI free and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they've been making headlines for the last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's those are the headlines. There's something going on, marching

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<v Speaker 1>Gortets get into it, John Walllet, et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. That must be nice that that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I see people like to read about the drama. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate covering the drama like I would. It's so much

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<v Speaker 2>more fun to just be around people who like each other.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, from a personal perspective, it's more fun to

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<v Speaker 2>cover positive things, you know, even though they lose, Like

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<v Speaker 2>Garrison Matthews that was a fun story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yan maheeme hit threes.

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<v Speaker 2>Hitting threes is outraged no one in the world. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So Kevin Arnovitz sat on a podcast not long ago

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<v Speaker 2>that the most exciting second in basketball is when John

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<v Speaker 2>Morant's in the air and you don't know what he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do. And I think it's when Yan Mahimi is raising.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know who agrees with me.

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<v Speaker 6>So he's loving it. He's just loving He's like, I

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<v Speaker 6>got the green light. I'm yan MAHEMI I can shoot

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<v Speaker 6>any three I want. Is that actually the philosophy? They're like,

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<v Speaker 6>anybody can shoot, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well he he legit worked really hard on

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<v Speaker 2>shooting threes for like years and just finally implemented it.

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<v Speaker 3>But he is so proud. He's so proud because he

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<v Speaker 3>worked so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>At it, and he's so proud, and he gets so

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<v Speaker 2>giddy whenever he makes a three, and Yan is like

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<v Speaker 2>beloved as a teammate, and so everyone else is really

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else gets so excited because they have the same

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<v Speaker 2>reaction that we do whenever Yon rises for a three,

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<v Speaker 2>and like he hits you watch him in practice and

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<v Speaker 2>open gym, and he's just draining him over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like a dude who would never step out

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago, and it's uh, it's it's hilarious, it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>When he hit his first career three last year, I

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<v Speaker 2>vividly remember him walking out of the locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got three daughters.

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<v Speaker 2>Him walking out of the locker room with like his

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<v Speaker 2>young daughter, maybe three years old or so, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>holding her and I see them from afar and I

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<v Speaker 2>just see him go, hold up his fingers and go No.

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<v Speaker 3>One, two three. It was one of the most adorable

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<v Speaker 3>moments I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>How long have you been covering the Wizards now year

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<v Speaker 4>and a half, year and a half and before that

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<v Speaker 4>you're covering the Thunder?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>For how long in total for them?

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<v Speaker 3>A little over two years?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you had a little break there where you

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<v Speaker 1>covered the Celtics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, oh, clf taste just to day. I covered the

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics for.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as one possibly can without covering a Celtics game.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in the week after they lost in the

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals and left the day before media day.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it was tremendous, But how I guess, like, especially

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<v Speaker 4>with the Thunder and Westbrook being on that team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it is. It completely different, the vibe of the of

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<v Speaker 4>the locker room, the organization, Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean Westbrook locker room is just

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<v Speaker 2>totally different from any other kind of locker room, you

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<v Speaker 2>know where, especially when the media is in there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it's different when when the media lea is but

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<v Speaker 2>when the media is in there, you you almost feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you have to whisper, you know, you can't distract anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be as unseen as you possibly can.

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<v Speaker 5>You.

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<v Speaker 2>I would very rarely pregame even go you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a good relationship with Steven Adams, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>very rarely even go to Steven Adams's locker pregame, just

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<v Speaker 2>to ask him how he was doing, to have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with him, because his locker was on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the locker room that Russ's was on, and we like,

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<v Speaker 2>just you don't broach that territory unless you absolutely had to.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost so I would end up pregame.

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<v Speaker 2>If I ever had to talk to anybody, I would

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<v Speaker 2>go talk to Jeremy Grant or Alexabrinez just because because

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<v Speaker 2>of the just because of geography. Wow, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a very It was a very different vibe, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's from a media perspective obviously, but it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like like loud.

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<v Speaker 2>The Wizard's one is loud and boisterous and much younger, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know they're like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're not walking on eggshells.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not in the least.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can you know, you can, you can have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, conversations with guys, and just because to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the the best part of the game is of the

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<v Speaker 2>job is not like walking up to.

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<v Speaker 3>People and interviewing them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's being able to go up to John Wall

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<v Speaker 2>and being like, you see Zion's debut, how how crazy

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<v Speaker 2>was that seventeen point stretch? And then John's like it

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<v Speaker 2>was amazing? And then you're just talking basketball with people

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<v Speaker 2>who have this unbelievable basketball knowledge, Like how cool is that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? And so being able to do that is

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<v Speaker 3>so much fun for me.

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<v Speaker 5>That must have been crazy though, with Westbrook and Steven Adams,

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<v Speaker 5>because Steven Adams seems the opposite that he'll talk about anything,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's loose and he's care free. So when you

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<v Speaker 5>got him there and you got Russell Westbrook there, you

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<v Speaker 5>still wanted to stay away from from Steven Andrew didn't

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<v Speaker 5>sort of want to go in and.

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<v Speaker 3>See what pregame.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, pregame for sure because it just wasn't it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't worth making my life more difficult. Usually I could

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him at another time and that would kind

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<v Speaker 2>of be it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, it was just it's difficult to.

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<v Speaker 2>Cover a Westbrook team. You kind of have to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out ways to like, yeah, like you can, you can

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<v Speaker 2>try to win the battle, but like probably gonna lose

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<v Speaker 2>the war.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you feel though that Westbrook respected you?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. No, No, very few people respect me,

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<v Speaker 3>even my mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Wizards.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't blame him for that.

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<v Speaker 5>What was it that Steven just to say at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of.

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<v Speaker 2>A scrum fairy well, golden horses.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him once, what say it all the time?

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him once?

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<v Speaker 4>So good?

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him once what that meant?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I don't know, May just trying English.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, it must be a little bit different, a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen's a gem now. He is genuinely one of the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest people I've ever met.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, have you crossed path with him since you've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did a story on him like a month

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<v Speaker 2>and a half ago or so about how he walks

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<v Speaker 2>around bear for.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye Yeah, yeah, he's he's a character.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. That could be a story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with Stephen Adams.

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<v Speaker 2>That can be because because my story, well, the the

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<v Speaker 2>story was like it started two and a half years

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<v Speaker 2>ago because I saw him wearing sandals and shorts in

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<v Speaker 2>Utah and I was like, what are you doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was in like December or January, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing wearing sandals in shorts in Utah?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I wear sandals and shorts ever everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I don't wear sandals at all. I just walk

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<v Speaker 2>around barefoot. And He's just like sometimes just he just

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<v Speaker 2>shows up to work sometimes just literally not wearing shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it started there and then I just hit

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<v Speaker 2>up the Thunder and I was like, I really want.

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<v Speaker 3>To do this story.

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<v Speaker 2>All it is is just a showcase of Steven's personality.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just let's just put a microphone in his face.

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<v Speaker 2>If I started asking him about feet, he's gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>some weird stuff. Yeah, So let's just let's just showcase

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen's personality, and we'll use the barefoot thing as a

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle to let Stephen be really funny. And the appeal

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<v Speaker 2>of the story is just going to be look at

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<v Speaker 2>all of these hilarious quotes from Steven Adams and then

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<v Speaker 2>nailed it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why it was a story. When Chris Paul

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<v Speaker 1>bought all of his ok See teammates suits and Steven

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<v Speaker 1>Adams actually wore he actually wore pants. Yes, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the story because he wore pants. Incredible. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the Wizards. Just for a brief moment here.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, everybody is joevial. There is one guy who

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<v Speaker 1>is frustrated. Bradley Beal, the best player. He's frustrated with

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<v Speaker 1>the play in general. He did sign a quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>contract extension this season. I say quote unquote because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a year plus a player option. I saw that and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, he's giving the team sometime to turn

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<v Speaker 1>things around. But really it's just a one year extension.

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<v Speaker 1>In all actual he's gonna be there for a while

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty twenty two, player option for twenty two to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, but he can be traded next year. I

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<v Speaker 1>just bring that up because he's frustrated. How long can

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<v Speaker 1>he stay frustrated for? Can this go on forever? Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's obviously dedicating himself. He talked to Chris Handes this week.

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<v Speaker 1>He compared himself to Damian Lillard. Does a one team

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<v Speaker 1>type of guy ideally, but will it boil over it?

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<v Speaker 1>At some point? Do you think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will boil over if they start to win? When John

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<v Speaker 2>Wall comes back next year, that's that's when he's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's frustrated because they lost fifty last year

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<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna lose fifty plus again this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't like to lose. And I don't agree. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when Brad said that stuff about being frustrated with the culture,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, then he was asked about the culture,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hows the culture have to change? And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>start winning games. I don't agree with the people who

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<v Speaker 2>compare that to Kevin Love in Cleveland. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to sign an extension knowing that the team is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be good and then still be frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>when the team's not good. I don't think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing as putting on public displays of being pissed

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<v Speaker 2>off and showing it on the court and letting it

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<v Speaker 2>affect your play and your leadership. It's different when you

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<v Speaker 2>just like kind of have a moment when you say

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<v Speaker 2>it in a postgame interview and doing that on the court.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think you're allowed to be upset when

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<v Speaker 2>you lose, no matter whether you extended or whether you

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<v Speaker 2>desperately won out. I think for Brad, his number one

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<v Speaker 2>choice is like he wants to win in Washington, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's said it many times. Like I think he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>big on the on the Dirk thing. Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Dirk title really really affected him in that he's

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<v Speaker 2>a big believer, Like that one title that Dirk got

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<v Speaker 2>after being there for what was it thirteen years at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, Right after being there for thirteen years and

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<v Speaker 2>they had all those playoff failures and all those struggles,

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<v Speaker 2>and they go through it and Dirk carries him to

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<v Speaker 2>a title, like he wants that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that idea that one title can oddly mean more

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<v Speaker 4>than win in five or something like that. Yeah, one special.

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<v Speaker 1>Way this week, Yeah, yeah, exactly that.

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<v Speaker 2>So they opened up in Dallas this year and I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to him, and I was talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>just about like the concept of loyalty, and we're there

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<v Speaker 2>in Dallas, and I was what is what is loyalty

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<v Speaker 2>to you? And I think he got a little frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>He I know, he got a little frustrated with me

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he thought that I was like questioning

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not he was being honest and and he

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<v Speaker 2>said to me, like, no, loyalty is that And he

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<v Speaker 2>pointed to the Dirk silhouette on the court in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, that's what I want. I want that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's being genuine in that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think he would like to win the most

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington. That being said, if they don't get their

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<v Speaker 2>stuff together and they don't start to win at some point,

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think and you know this is just me

0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 2>just talking. I don't know if like it's a thing

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like I'll stay here for twenty years even

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 2>if we lose fifty games for sixteen of them. I

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's gonna be the case. So the Wizards

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.200
<v Speaker 2>say they want to try to win next year. John

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Wallace coming back and they're gonna have another high pick

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.360
<v Speaker 2>and their young guys is you know, the rehatch meurs

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:02.639
<v Speaker 2>of the world to get a little bit older, and

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I think they will be better. We'll see what they

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<v Speaker 2>do this summer. But but you know, the I would

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 2>not say the clock is ticking at all with brad

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Like it's three years. It's it's too early for this.

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>But his his heart is for sure in DC.

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it's the way he carries himself too.

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I always forget Bradley Beal's only twenty six. He seems

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 4>like a more he's a vest right, But in my head,

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, yeah, you gotta start thinking about like

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 4>trying to get that ring. Like he's not in any rush,

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 4>but he's still very very young.

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 2>He's at the very beginning of his prime. Yeah, he's

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 2>just a very polished person.

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 3>So he comes off as as older, you know, Lizer.

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I'm four years older than him, and I

0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:47.919
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't feel like like I'm way yet. No.

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I spend like way too much time in my underpants.

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Steven Adams about.

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>It, Well, I think the point about just the way

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>he carries himself is important because he also it's important

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>as far as basketball goes, too, because he also doesn't

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>go out there on social media. He's not a talker

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>out there, and so he feels I've heard him talk

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>about his lack of exposure sort of hurts his rep

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 1>around the league and potentially his All Star appearance. He

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about him not being, you know, pretty low in

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the fan vote. I think he was ninth overall in

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>guards even though he's a two time All Star and

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 1>balling out this year again because he's a great player.

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that lack of exposure sort of hurts

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>his rep around the league or is it just sort

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>of with fans And I guess you can go into

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>whether or not you think he'll be named a reserve

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday when TNT announces the All Star reserves.

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:44.959
<v Speaker 3>I do think he'll be named a reserve.

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the coaches tend to reward the guys who

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 2>have been.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>There, so I ranked they you know, the players ranked

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 1>him extremely high. The fans obviously did not.

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think I don't know. It's

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 2>hard to say if it hurts his rep around the

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 2>league because he did finish second the player vote, But

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 2>at the same time last year, he was the last

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 2>pick in the All.

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Star Draft, and so it's a weird.

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>DC.

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it mean, I mean, look, DC, it's weird because

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>DC is a great high school basketball market, and yet

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the Wizards fan base is not too large and is

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>not that passionate, and so you know, the Wizards have

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>to be really good to get a lot of national

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 2>TV games and that kind of stuff. I don't know

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>how much that affects players. I feel like players tend

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>to a big difference between players and fans. As players,

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I think more so tend to prioritize the guy who

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 2>can just square.

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 3>You up and get a bucket against you.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 2>And Bradley Beal can definitely hex averaging twenty eight a game,

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and he's running an offense that we all thought didn't

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>have very much talent coming into the year and is

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 2>in the top half of the league in efficiency now yeah,

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and can doubled every single game. And yeah, so I

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 2>think the players, I would say, the players do respect

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 2>him because of the way the coaches game plan against him,

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 2>because the way the players guard him. Because he was

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 2>second in the player vote, I mean that's probably the

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 2>best example.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but not being famous has to hurt him

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>in the fan vote. Yeah, I mean, just I mean,

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, not being famous comparatively obviously, but he also,

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>like I I think I don't think it bothers him

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>that much because he doesn't go out of his way

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to do this stuff. Like he he doesn't really care

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that much about going and doing national commercials and and

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>being really famous and trying for He.

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Really likes memes. He does. He does enjoy being memes.

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 3>He enjoys.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 4>So he must have loved the whole interaction you have

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 4>with the fan right shot and gave classic look.

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>He he recreated it with the Wizard's Twitter account right

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, yeah, he he enjoys being memed. I don't

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>think he'll ever say it out loud. No one becomes

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>memes that often and doesn't doesn't, you know, isn't in

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 2>on the joke. So he definitely enjoys that. But other

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>than that, like he's he's not trying for for massive

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 2>national deals like he just he's not very attention seeking,

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>which makes him that's I think that contributes that you know,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 2>polished personality and stuff and makes him kind of a

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>not very celebrity type personality and certainly makes him more relatable.

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 2>But you know, also it's not going to make him

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 2>as famous.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did see him. He was pissed about the

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>fan vote. But yeah, you're right. I mean, I guess

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>he's not into but he's just not into the whole. Hey,

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm on Instagram.

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>No, he's just like a He just wants to hang

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>out with his family, hang out with his kids, hang

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 2>out with his fiance.

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 3>A good wholesome fun.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of his fiance, he had a baby a couple

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of years ago. I think he's got two under two now,

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and he said he gained a lot of sympathy weight.

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>You gained You actually joined the Wizards right when he

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>had that child, so did you. He said he gained

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty pounds of pizza and ice cream. That's what he said.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It was just late night pizza and ice cream. Did

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you see that in in the Panda? In the Big Panda.

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna ask me if I gained sympathy for a second.

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been gaining unintentional sympathy weight.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 3>For years, sympathy for everyone.

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're ready.

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 3>So much bad stuff in the world, guys, I need

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 3>ice cream? Did did I know?

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I did not notice the the sympathy waight?

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I wish I wish I had what a question would

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 3>that be? In a scrum postgam follow up?

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>The defense.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Is that Ben and Jerry's Brad. We've we've seen recently.

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 4>You know John Wall pre game he's working out. You

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 4>know you see the clip. Well John Wall still looks amazing.

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 4>What what is the latest on on him coming back

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 4>from the jury. Where what do we know or what

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 4>do you know? As the Wizard's Peede.

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Reporter, I I still don't expect him to come back

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 2>this year. I think when he comes back, he wants

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to be like back and there's no rush. It's not

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>like they're pushing for the playoffs. And I think one

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>thing that we have to remember, and it's really important,

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>is that when people watch him and he's going against

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 2>player development staff or whatever it is, and it's it's fun.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>It's really cool to watch that kind of stuff and

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>be able to sit there and like watch John Wall

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.239
<v Speaker 2>when we have our you know, our camera phones up,

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>watch John Wall dunk and then stare us down because

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>he just kind of misses performing as a basketball player.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, like that's always a fun experience. But when

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>you watch that stuff, you have to remember it's it's

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>not just about the achilles healing, they have to work

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>on everything else. Like DeMarcus Cousins is the saddest example

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 2>of this, right where he comes back from an achilles

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and then has a compensatory injury. And so it's not

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>just about like healing the achilles. You're subconsciously doing so

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>much other stuff with your body. You need to get

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>into you know, premiere shape, and on top of that,

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you need to it's not just like having a six packs.

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>It's it's realizing that you're actually subconsciously putting fifty three

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>percent of your body weight on one side when you

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 2>used to put fifty and that makes you more likely

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 2>to an injury on the other side. You know, there

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 2>are all these things that you have to sort out.

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think anybody, John Wall included, really wants

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>to have him rush back and then have another bad

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 2>thing happened to him. So I don't think. I don't

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>think John is. I don't get the impression that John

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>is pushing them. I have to come back. I have

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>to come back, and I don't get the impression that

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>they're they're pushing him. I think everybody involved, you know,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>from the doctors to the team to John himself wants

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to be as as cautious as possible. That's why, even

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>though I think it's possible, we get to a point

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year where like in March,

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like John Wall can technically play basketball. I don't

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>predict that he's gonna play.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 4>So you think at the start of next season is.

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 3>What I think?

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, his rehab from everything I hear and

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>everything I see is right on track. There don't seem

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>to be any It seems the timeline seems to be

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty much what they expected. So yeah, I would

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>everything I hear it seems like he'll be back for

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>next year.

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 6>They're planning on winning. You said next year. They hope

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 6>to win at least next year. They got y Meheemei

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 6>shooting threes this year, No big deal. What's the team

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 6>gonna be like then when Wall comes back, because he'll

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 6>be somewhat diminished as a player missing a season and

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 6>a half. In that same time, Beal has become an

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 6>All Star. He'll probably make the All Star Game twice.

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 6>Since John Wall has been out. There were rumors of

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 6>those guys not getting along in the past. You know,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 6>there was the big blow up at practice with Beal

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 6>when he was upset. Then Beal seems like he should

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 6>be the number one guy when John Wall gets back.

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 6>But Wall also doesn't seem like a guy that's just

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 6>gonna be chilling in the corner waiting for somebody to

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 6>kick him the ball.

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how's that gonna work.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I also think people always talk about it from personality perspective.

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>There's just the style, like just the stylistic one.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean John Wall and Bradley Beal had stylistic contrasts

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 2>the last time that John Wall was healthy, right, And

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 2>we talked about just from a basketball fit, not a

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>personality fit. And I actually do think I've only been

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 2>on the beat for a year and a half and

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>it's plausible their relationship ship has has progressed and improved

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>during this time.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 3>But from I.

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>See them together a lot, and they seem to get

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>along really well. And I personally have not witnessed the

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>relationship stuff that was put out about them before, but

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it's always possible, like when when guys stopped playing together,

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>they just treat each other as people and not basketball players,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's still just getting older for sure, and that

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>that stylistic contrasts in the court just doesn't come into

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>play in the relationship one bit, you know, And and

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I think they both like each other as people a

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 2>lot on the court, though stylistically, the last time Brad,

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>John and Brad played together when John was healthy, and

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>like I don't consider last year John being healthy because

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>he played through the bone, spurs and everything. Brad was

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.479
<v Speaker 2>a different player, Like he wasn't he wasn't running as

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 2>much pick and roll. He wasn't the guy who was

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>getting doubled off the dribble, He wasn't getting to the

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>rim all the time. He was much more of the

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>catch and shoot guy that he was when he came

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>into the league. And so it's not even that John

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Wall and Bradley Beal have to kind of get back

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>to playing together how they did before. John almost has

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>to relearn who Brad is because he's a different player

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>than he was two or three years ago. He just

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 2>has a different skill set and plays a different style

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 2>and is best when you use him a different way.

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's possible, especially in twenty twenty, like

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>we've seen, the more ball handlers, the better, Like that

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>is the way you optimize your offense. You won as

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 2>many ball handlers and creators on the floor. So I believe,

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>like as a basketball person, that the more ball handlers

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 2>you can add, the better. But you need you need

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>a coach who's going to be able to sort that out. Well,

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>you need players who are willing to figure out how

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>to contribute in other ways. And that means you know,

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 2>John Wall figuring out how to be effective off the ball.

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, cut better and maybe improve his jump shop,

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>but specifically cut better. People don't realize and I didn't

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 2>realize this started covering John. John is a basketball It

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>is crazy talking about basketball with him.

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 3>So I think he has for.

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Sure in a sense one of just like he knows

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 4>every playing.

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 3>It's the Lebron stuff and how Lebron like tracks back.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Plays eight games ago or yeah, eight years ago, and

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 4>in the fifth game of the season, we did this,

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 4>and then they counter.

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>With that, yeah, yeah, I can tell you what all

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>ten players did on the floor, can tell you why

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>they did it. It's it's almost like it's almost like,

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, when like a great lawyer can argue either

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.959
<v Speaker 2>side of any case. That's kind of John. You watch

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>him make this kind of like reckless turnover and he

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>will give you an extraordinarily in depth ex's nose answer

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>why he made that turnover, and you're like, yeah, but

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>it's still your turnover. But he had such an intelligent

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 2>reason for doing it, and he knows so much more

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>than I do.

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 3>So I don't really know what to think of this.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>It's it's kind of an amazing experience covering him in

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 2>that way, and so I think John for sure has

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 2>the intellectual capacity to figure out how to be better

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>at moving off the ball and that stuff. I mean,

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>we'll see how it meshes when they're back. I don't know,

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 2>but I do think there's a world in which they

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>figure out how.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 3>To make it work.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>It is one of the more fascinating relationships in the

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>NBA because the casual fans will say, oh, they don't

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>like each other, but Bradley Beiald signs on and he

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>must believe that it can work to some degree. And

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>he did mention it, as Skeet's mentioned there, that the

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>maturity will help them point blank, and maybe maybe he

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that this week to Chris Hanes because they have

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>been off the court and been buddy buddy, but they've

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>won playoff rounds together but they haven't gone to a

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>conference finals, and it seems like watching it, you know,

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>us watching it. These two guys, they're just so good

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and as you said, every team is running multiple ball

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>handlers right now, like they should be great and it's

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be I guess on coach Scott Brooks to

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>make it happen. And let's talk about Scott Brooks. Is

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>his job secure for how long?

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Is it secure for it?

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you think because of this year? It's gotta be.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, It's fine now. I have no worries about him

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>right now. Whenever there's a GM change in the GM

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and the coach stays, there's always the question of, like

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>does he want to hire his own coach. I do

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>know Tommy Shepherd, who they hired last summer, and Scott

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Brooks have a very good relationship, and Tommy Shepherd was

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the assistant GM when Scott Brooks was hired. The two

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 2>of them have known each other for a really long time.

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>So I don't anticipate anything happening soon. I don't know,

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I just I couldn't tell you. People ask me,

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>like people ask me that question all the time, what

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>about this summer? It's like I don't know that would

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 2>entail predicting the future, and I just have no idea.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you for now, Scott Brooks is fine

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and that he's got another year on his contract after

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 2>this one, and I don't anticipate anything happening this season,

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>and then this summer will well, you know, just like

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>any coach entering the last year on his contract. We'll

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 2>see what happens. But you know, you talk to people

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>around the league and people inside the Wizards, and I

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>think people are pretty happy with the job that Scott's

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>stune with this team. They play, they play really hard,

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 2>and they've somehow him and assistant coach Robert pak who

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>runs the offense, they've they've crafted this this offense with

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 2>yan Maheeme bombing, bombing threes, yan Mehimi bombs yeah ma

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>three and me he has he has four times.

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 3>As many threes in his career as Ben Simmons right now.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 5>Well, but it's been more than just jan it's playing

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 5>that the.

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but that's like props to their coaching staff,

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>right for real life. They they use Berton's totally. The

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Spurs would park him in the corner if he took

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>some of the shots he's taking on the Spurs, Pop

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 2>would have him parked at the end of the bench.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 2>He'd never see daylight ever again. Right, So, Like, I

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>think it's those sorts of things they've got to They

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>had an offense that was top five in the league

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>until they had all those injuries. So I think I

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>think people have been really impressed with the way they're

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.720
<v Speaker 2>running offense and that kind of stuff, and Scott Scott

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Brooks gets some of the credit for that.

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's also had to just because of the injuries,

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 4>had to have some of the craziest lineups. Like I mean,

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 4>I like caught myself seeing it the other day, Like,

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 4>all right, is Isaiah Thomas, Gary Payton the second then

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Beale Bonga. He Like, what a weird lineup that is,

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 4>just to say here in twenty twenty. Yes, but he's

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 4>been forced to do it. Gotta get a little creative. Obviously,

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 4>he's got the long leash because of this sort of

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 4>year is a bit of a quote unquote, you know,

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 4>sort of a wasted year with the John wall injury.

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 4>But you know, we were talking about some of these guys,

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 4>your Burton's and you know, Hachamura and stuff like that.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 4>For the injury. Has there been one in particular to

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 4>impress you the most? It is it Jordan McCrae is

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 4>as somebody else that's like maybe just shocked you, and

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 4>you're like, wow, I didn't know this guy could play this.

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a good one.

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, does Burton's count Yeah, yeah, I mean if

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 2>if Berton's counts, then it's then it's Burton's.

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Because I didn't.

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Realize he was Everyone knew he was a great shooter, yeah,

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>and there was that like niche movement in San Antonio

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 2>that he should have been part of the three point

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Contest last year, But I don't think anybody knew that

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 2>he was just gonna be like bombing from the logo

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>all the time.

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 2>I also didn't know that he's the most confident man

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>in the world.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Really, Oh my god, Yeah, it is wild.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I asked him he hit one from the logo one night,

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 2>and I asked him after the game, how far out

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>for you?

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Is too far out? And he said, I haven't found

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 3>out ye.

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Perspective.

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So is he going to be there in Chicago at

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the three point Contest?

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Do you think I'd be surprised? I can't imagine they

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have him like he.

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.240
<v Speaker 4>He and he would do it in a in a second.

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like I feel comfortable speaking on behalf of him.

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>He will accept that so quickly and answer that thing

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 2>so confidently.

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 5>And quicker than anyone else has ever done it before.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 5>He'll get get through his recks and.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 3>You think his release is so quick.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll have some story on his shooting at his confidence

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 2>at some point soon.

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's it's really.

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Funny because he's a super nice guy and it comes

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 2>off as very It's never like some people are are

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 2>confident in the great others and he just is so

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 2>confident in the shooting. But it makes sense, like how

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>unreasonably confident? How unreasonable is it to start practicing shots

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.240
<v Speaker 2>from the logo right as if as if they're game shots?

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Who would say, who would spot up.

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 2>From forty feet and be like, you know what, I

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like there's a reasonable chance I'll be able to

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>do this in a game one day.

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Let's get it's not like, yeah, it's not like one

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 3>day he just received the ball in a game at

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 3>the logo. I It's like I'm gonna shoot it. Oh,

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I made it.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll shoot these now he practiced those forever.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Like who the the unreasonable amount of confidence that you

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 2>have to have in order to just start practicing those

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>is beyond me.

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 6>Did the team know that Burton's was going to be

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 6>like this or did he come into training camp and

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 6>they're like, this guy's crazy, because I'm like, you're saying,

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 6>people knew in the Spurs he could shoot, but he's

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 6>not like coming around screens thirty feet out and pulling

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 6>from there, pulling on the brake, that sort of thing.

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 6>Was it like in training camp They're like, well, we

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.479
<v Speaker 6>gotta we gotta find here on our hands.

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a little bit of a mix

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>because he kind of played this way in Europe and

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 2>they have a major, major European scouting staff now. Tommy Shepherd,

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>who's their new GM, has a lot of experienced scouting

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>in Europe and really loves European players, And they just

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 2>hired a new head of pro personnel, Johnny Rodgers, who

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>is one of the most respected international scouts in the league.

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Used to live in Barcelona and.

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Actually played college basketball with Scott Brooks.

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.919
<v Speaker 2>And I think part of their reason for liking him,

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean they got him basically for free. So you

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>can get a good player for free, you get him

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 2>for free. But I think part of the reason for

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>liking him was because of how he played when he

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 2>was in Europe. He'd run off screens more and kind

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>of play this style a little bit more. But I

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know if anybody realized, like, oh man, this guy

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 2>is gonna have one of the two or three best

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>shooting seasons in the NBA and like one of the

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 2>ten best shooting seasons in the history of the league

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 2>as soon as we get them. I don't know if

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 2>that was.

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 4>But you think and they're like, because of the way

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 4>he played in Europe, they're probably in their minds like

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 4>he's just in the Spur system. You know, they got

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 4>boxed up a little bit. We can unleash him. Maybe, Yeah,

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I think they're probably hoping for that.

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I think there was some of that because he did

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 2>play that way in Europe, So I think they and

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>they knew that they saw that, But I don't know

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 2>if they were like, yeah, let's let's have him take

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 2>nine threes. Yeah, and and he's gonna make four of them,

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and and he's just gonna be pulling up from thirty five.

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I watch him in practice and he just does catch

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>and shoot drills from thirty five feet and he hits

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>all of them, and it's crazy, like you can see

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the range in a open gym, but.

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 3>It's just wild.

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 5>Against the Hornets, he hit like I he was eight

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 5>for right, wasn't he? And he was just like the

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 5>ball was just cut crossing halfway and he was just

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 5>letting go of it, you know, I mean, like to

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 5>get that hot. You know, not a lot of guys

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:48.359
<v Speaker 5>can get quite that hot where they're just like as

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 5>soon as I get the ball, I'm letting it fly.

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 5>But I guess in the system with Washington as well,

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:53.439
<v Speaker 5>he's got that opportunity this year.

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in that in that Hornets game, Yeah, hit eight threes.

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 2>And then that Hornets gam they started after his fifth

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 2>one or so because he get he gets when he

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>hits them, he hits him in bunches and and so

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 2>they started picking him up like behind half court. And

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>there was a play where he's I think it was

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 2>his A three of the game, where he just crosses

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 2>half court and the Wizard just passed it to him

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and there's a guy right in his face and he's

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 2>a few feet in front of the half court line

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>on I guess it's technically the wing if I had

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 2>to choose an area of the court, but it's like

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 2>off the wing, and and he just puts it up

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 2>in the hand of his face with nineteen seconds left

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>on the shop clock. No, no, no reasonably minded human

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 2>being would ever try this.

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Ever, he's shooting almost nine threes. Game is as he said,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it's always good to remind yourself. The guy is on

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>fire out there.

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.240
<v Speaker 3>And he's a big dude, huge yeah, like sixteen. Yeah,

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 3>he's like six ten.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 4>Because in your head, like a shooter, you're like, oh, okay,

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 4>he's like six six six seven. It's that tip, you know.

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, that's where my mind goes.

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 6>You're like, no, this guy's or if you're a six' ten,

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 6>shooter you're Like Steve novak and you're just. Waiting you're

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 6>just waiting for somebody to take you the. Ball you're

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 6>not moving all around the court and. CHUCKING i, mean

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 6>he's on a tiny deal seven million this year and it.

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 6>Expires he's been in trade rumors enough that it's like

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 6>you're just looking at a team that's not doing very

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 6>well in The, wizards and he's playing, well maybe we

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 6>can try to get. Him but it also seems Like

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 6>burton's is the exact kind of player that you would

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 6>want to keep Around John wall And Bradley. Beal so

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 6>what's their thinking coming into the trade deadline? Here are

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 6>they going to look to Move burton's because that seems

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 6>a little silly to.

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Me, NAH i they they insist that they do not

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>want to move, him And i'm inclined to believe them

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>BECAUSE i THINK i think when a team doesn't want

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.360
<v Speaker 2>to move, somebody even when it's, genuine you, know they

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 2>start to leak out like we don't want to we

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>don't want to move this. Guy you, know sources say

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>The wizards really want to Keep Davis, burton's Except Tommy

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 2>shepard just came out in an interview and put his

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 2>name on. It it was, like, no we don't want

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 2>to trade. Him we intend to keep. Him it's all

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 2>just working out the numbers from. Here so when YOUR

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>gm just comes out and says that in an, interview

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 2>that just kind of puts an end to it all

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 2>of a. Sudden now he has to like not just

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 2>go back on his. Word it's not like he told

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 2>him that, personally he has to go back on his word.

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.919
<v Speaker 2>PUBLICLY I i'm going to put it within the realm

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 2>of possibilities they trade him because there are only so

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>many players that you just can't, get you just you,

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 2>know that are totally, untradable that there is not a

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>fair offer out there for you to. Get if somebody

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 2>calls them up and offers Them Karl Anthony towns For Davis,

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>berton's they might consider breaking their. Word but BUT i

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.439
<v Speaker 2>don't think, REALISTICALLY i think there's a very small chance

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 2>they want to pay. Him like they want to pay

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 2>him so.

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 4>They see him probably a part of the.

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Future, yes they they like What trey, Said like they

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 2>are gushing over the possibility of him playing With john,

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>right they are. EVERYONE i, Mean Scott brooks is, dying

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Sciating Bradley. Beal Bradley beal said he's the best shooter

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 2>he's ever. Seen Bradley beal is dying to see him

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 2>play next to you, know play with him And john

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>at the same. Time he, Is he's a he's a

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>perfect think all the Shooters John wall's gotten Paid, yeah, yeah,

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Right Jared dudley And Martell webster And Trevor reza and

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>all these, Guys and think about how much better of

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>a shooter and an off ball Mover Davias burton's is

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 2>than than all those.

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:17.919
<v Speaker 3>Guys Jarreed.

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 4>Temple, yeah so he's gonna get.

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Paid he is gonna get. Paid he's gonna get paid

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Before John.

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Wall BUT i, COULD i could see them being really good,

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>together even If John wall is you, know eighty five

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 2>percent of what he. WAS i.

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 3>COULD i could just See John.

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Wall Like Kirk goldsberry tweeted out something the other day

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 2>That John wall since like twenty fourteen or twenty, fifteen

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>is still fifth in THE nba over that time of

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 2>creating corner threes and he's missed like one hundred and

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>fifty games during that.

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Span so people would want to play With John wall the.

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Player people would want to play With Bradley beal the.

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Player it would seem like an attractive. Situation you've been

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>on the beat for a year and a. Half, there

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you've been to okayc you had a couple coffee with The.

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Celtics would you do you think.

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Is it's like a Mellow atlanta.

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Situation it's it's a huge, city but it's not looked

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 1>at as a desirable. Destination do you think it is

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 1>for free?

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Agents probably, not because nobody's. GONE i love. IT i

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 3>really like D c a lot to, do good food.

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 3>SCENE i don't.

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Know i've never heard AN nba player say, like, yeah you,

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 2>KNOW i signed here BECAUSE i went to The air

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>And Space museum and it was just. Beautiful Amelia earhart

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 2>exhibit was unbelievable AND i just had to.

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 3>Go i've never heard.

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>That SO.

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 3>I i love D.

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 4>C But Steven adams ever signs In Washington hills something like.

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 6>That they got to get a history buff or something like.

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Museums, yeah that's.

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 2>True Bradley beal likes it a lot. There, yeah obviously wouldn't.

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Stay And i've heard guys who were there Like burton's loves,

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 2>It burton's family loves. It Like i've heard guys who

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>are there talk about how once they get, there they're,

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 2>like this is such a great. CITY i don't really

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 2>want to. Go but you know how MANY nba cities

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 2>are really ones that guys sign.

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 3>With for the. City it's very. Few it's Like New, York, La.

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 2>MIAMI i, mean we talked About boston in this way,

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 2>forever and then they Signed Gordon. Hayward Now, horford now

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 2>we don't talk about it this. Way it's, LIKE I

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 2>i feel Like boston AND dc are kind of aligned

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>as similar types of, cities but they're really only like

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>three cities that we consider destinations Unless i'm, forgetting Like

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 2>chicago doesn't get, anybody and That's, chicago you.

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Know, YEAH i Guess i'm including sort of the, backcourt

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>like those dudes as a bit of a magnet for free. Agents,

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i, WOULD i would think they.

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Are maybe this comes back to the to The Bradley

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 2>beal attracting players type of, thing, Right like maybe this

0:48:56.840 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 2>is all part of the, same the same. Conversation LIKE

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 2>i don't know if If brad is, UH i don't

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>know If brad. Recruits he's made jokes about wanting to

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.439
<v Speaker 2>recruit guys to D c. Before they also just haven't

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 2>had the cap. Situation yeah, Yeah like when was the

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>last time they they had legitimate cap? Space and if

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>they want to Resign, Bertons i'm not going to have

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 2>it this year. Either they've just kind of been capped

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 2>out for a. While they've had big, contracts say they

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 2>haven't really had the situation to make those big signings.

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Either they tried to get Al horford h he ended

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 2>up opting to go To, boston tried to Get, durant

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 2>tried tried To durant ended up getting Those mahimi threes.

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Instead get one way or.

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Another but, yeah like twenty, sixteen that was the last

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:43.360
<v Speaker 2>time that they really had any, space you, Know, yeah

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>and it did not work.

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.959
<v Speaker 1>Out. YEAH i wonder if that changes With Bradley beal

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>signing an, extension whether or not he's going to. Recruit

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 1>but it also depends on the cap. Room that's a good.

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Point you're we're talking geography a little. Bit let's get

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to uh Some japanese geography Because Scott brooks is very

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.959
<v Speaker 1>popular In. Japan, WHY i don't, KNOW i guess Because

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 1>ruymura is on the. Team have you have you talked

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>To Scotty brooks about his his, fame His japanese.

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Fame, yes YES i. Have it's it's a really weird, thing.

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:17.720
<v Speaker 7>Right, yeah it's BECAUSE i, asked, uh the guy who

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 7>who runs like The japanese social team for The, wizards

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 7>who the second most like Behind, ruey who's the guy

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 7>everybody really likes In.

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 2>JAPAN i was certain he was gonna Say Bradley, bealeah,

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>certain and it was Like Scott, brooks they love. Him

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and he said they think of him as a great father. Figure,

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 2>wow fans think of him as a great father.

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Figure AND i was, like all, right, sure seems like

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 3>a kind.

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 2>GUY i think he's a he's a very kind. Guy

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 2>like he thinks they think it's a great mentor To.

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Ruy, YEAH i guess that's what they're Gonna, Yeah.

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 3>And AND i was.

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Certain it's like it's Like Ruy hachmar at the top

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and Then Scott brooks and it's like nobody.

0:50:55.719 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Else matters in the line there, though BECAUSE I Nick,

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 5>fredell who used to cover The, bulls he went To

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 5>australia one time Where, chicago The Chicago, bulls because of

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 5>The jordan, era are the most popular, team and he

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 5>said when he got To, australia people were fascinated With Nick,

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 5>Fridel SO i.

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Mean fascinated with his.

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Voice, yeah well that's. True but there's a whole lot

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 5>of untapped market for Fred katz In.

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Japan there might.

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Be there might be you have to find, out but

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 2>there might.

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Be it's.

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Plausible what's what's really been like covering him in his

0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 4>first year.

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Here, uh he already comports himself like a.

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Veteran, yeah he.

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Is he's very, quiet very, quiet really keeps to himself a.

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Lot he's very, bright but he's kind of hard to

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 2>get to, know to be, honest because, like there's some

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 2>guys you cover who are just like these big Personalities jordan,

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 2>McCrae who will come up to anybody and start making

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 2>jokes at anybody in the. World and then there's the

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>opposite end of the spectrum Where rui's just this very

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 2>quiet kid who kind of just keeps to himself and

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>wants to come in and play basketball and work hard

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 2>and treats everybody. Well he's just kind of, quiet and

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you can walk up to him say, really how you do,

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 2>it and he'll, Say i'm, good how are? You and

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and he kind of just moves on with his day from.

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 3>There.

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh and it's it's funny to be around him because

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.399
<v Speaker 2>BEFORE i had met, HIM i hit up a bunch

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 2>of PEOPLE i knew who knew, him you, know with

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:29.479
<v Speaker 2>The wizards or a couple People, gonzaga and so many

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 2>people compare him To. Kauhi like there were People chauncey

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 2>compared him To kauhi the, player BUT i mean like

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 2>compared his personality and work ethic and that kind of.

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Stuff AND i don't Know, kuhi but From kauhi's, reputation

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:47.239
<v Speaker 2>LIKE i, SEE i see that he's he's very, quiet

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and he's very reserved and he just kind of wants

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 2>to work hard and play basketball and do a good

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 2>job and be a pro and and just kind of leave,

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 2>it leave all the other stuff out of. It and

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 2>SO i very very much see that from a personality, standpoint.

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 4>And off to a great, START i mean before the. Injury,

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 4>unfortunately he's, Talented, YEAH i mean it was putting up

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 4>decent numbers For he's.

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Really interesting in twenty twenty because he. Is he might

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 2>just be one of those dudes who breaks the numbers

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 2>from mid, range where like he takes a lot of

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.800
<v Speaker 2>mid range, shots but maybe they're just good shots for.

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Him he's shooting a ridiculous percentage on mid range pull,

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 2>ups which like rookies just don't. Do, yeah and he's

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 2>got to get better at a lot of, things passing

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and scoring around the rim and shooting threes and, defense

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of. Stuff but he's he's very fluid

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and for sure really. TALENTED i think it's going to

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 2>be a really interesting.

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Player there's a couple of small guards on this. Team

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<v Speaker 1>you Mentioned Isaiah thomas And Ish smith as. Well is

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<v Speaker 1>it neat being sort of eye level with a couple

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 1>of basketball. Players i'd imagine it is just to have

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple guys around that or you, know sort of your.

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Height it's, uh it's it's it's good for my, neck

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 2>good for the good old. Neck looking up all the,

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:03.399
<v Speaker 2>time like there's a great story to be written ABOUT

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 2>nba writers and.

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Their struggles with.

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Whiplash were just constantly looking up and scrums all the.

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Time and then they only respect taller guys Like Trey

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.319
<v Speaker 4>kirby more the players. Do i'm convinced they got no

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 4>time for us, five, ten eleven of the. World they

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 4>want to see the six four to six, Fives, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>okay this guy's. TALL i respect this, guy gets.

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<v Speaker 2>It but it's, funny is like the big guys consider

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<v Speaker 2>themselves almost like normal height and then in a figurative,

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:34.760
<v Speaker 2>sense look down on everybody like like they would Consider trey,

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 2>short Like Steven, adams would Call trey short and genuinely

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 2>think of him as, short not not comprehend that he

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 2>is the large one in the. World you, Know, hey

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 2>WHEN i was WHEN i was in college At, SYRACUSE

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.760
<v Speaker 2>i was ABOUT i was a manager on the basketball,

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 2>team AND i was about half an inch or an

0:54:55.840 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 2>inch taller Than Johnny. Flynn, wow great, Dude Johnny, flynton

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 2>very upset that he he had the career that he.

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Had qu awesome, dude amazing. Leader AND i was rebounding

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 2>pregame And johnny was walking by and a ball like

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 2>ricocheted to, us AND i kind of grabbed it with

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.360
<v Speaker 2>not realizing he was, there and just kind of handed

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 2>it over to, him and he kind of gave, me

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 2>gave me like a like a joking intense look from

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 2>me still in the rebound from, him AND i made

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:31.479
<v Speaker 2>a joke about being taller than. Him johnny such a nice,

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 2>GUY i, mean like unbelievably nice, Guy like would go

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 2>out of his way to lead that entire, Program like

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 2>the way people talk about Like Damian lillard was kind

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 2>of HOW i viewed him as like a leader in

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:42.479
<v Speaker 2>that locker.

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Room it was.

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Incredible he was like an incredible guy to. Watch it

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:46.920
<v Speaker 2>was a year old in me and it was. Amazing

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 2>but he had this wild competitive. Streak SO i made

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 2>a joke about his height and he looks at me and,

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 2>SAYS i will give you a trampoline and still dunk on.

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 4>You are you still playing it?

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 3>On oh my, God i'm, terrible but. Terrible, yeah, yeah, terrible.

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 4>But you're.

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 3>PLAYING i.

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<v Speaker 4>Try, okay good for.

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 3>YOU i attempt.

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<v Speaker 5>To just before the other guy's turned up this, morning

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 5>we're talking off off the mic BECAUSE i assumed you

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 5>were AN la guy because you started there at The Clipper.

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 5>Blog but you told me From New york AND i was,

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 5>like how does A New york kid become a work

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 5>for The clipper? Blog BECAUSE i thought it was a funny.

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 5>Story SO i tell you guys how that all, Started.

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 3>How it became A clipper.

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Friend, Yeah Eric, Paikowski, Yes Eric paikowski In Kobe BRYANT

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>nba Court side ninety, Eight killer shooting for, him just

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:47.320
<v Speaker 2>dran and.

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Stuff.

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 4>Form it was.

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Great great digital.

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Form it.

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Was it was. Awesome it was.

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Killer and SO i was eight years. Old it's, LIKE

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.919
<v Speaker 2>i Guess i'm a fan of this Awesome clippers team

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:03.800
<v Speaker 2>nine and forty one in the, lockout yere got to

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 2>got to root for a team run by an old racist. Owner,

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.399
<v Speaker 2>yeah it was one of my best life.

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Decisions yeah so you STILL i mean.

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 3>NO i, agree, no not.

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Anymore you lose it when you cover the. League BUT

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 2>i grew up A clippers. Fan it stopped being A

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 2>clippers fan just, in just in time to make it

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:20.240
<v Speaker 2>all not worth.

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>It we hear. You we came here just as The

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:29.479
<v Speaker 1>raptors got, good and you dropped a Yan ma three

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>mece pun a little. Earlier we know you love a good.

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Pun Jesse smith sent this in On. Twitter what's more

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>satisfying writing a good story or coming up with just

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the right? PUN i and if you, can if you

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>want to recall one of your great punts from this,

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 1>season because you've been dropping some some hot, ones.

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Very pun friendly.

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Here what a what a ridiculous.

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Question it's it's so funny, that, LIKE i work for

0:57:57.040 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 2>A hall Of Famer David, aldridge and yet that's the,

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 2>question the level the respect levels between my boss and.

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Me it's just unbelievably. Disparity uh, yeah probably the. Pun, sadly,

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 2>sadly when you know you got a good one on

0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:18.240
<v Speaker 2>top of the. World, yeah you let it fire, off

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 2>likely with a banana. Peel you just that's what he's.

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 4>Doing did you ever hold on to a great pun

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 4>to make it into the article or you're fired it On?

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Twitter, NO i don't really put puns in my. Articles.

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 2>YEAH i FIND i find them grading and, writing AND

0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 2>i don't enjoy them and makes it seem like you're

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 2>trying too. Hard they're good in, headlines, yeah same with the.

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Headlines click every once in a, while you can have

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 2>a play on words in, Writing BUT i don't really

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 2>like them in, writing SO i very very rarely use

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 2>them in writing unless the situation really really calls for.

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It So twitter is like my perfect doubt to get

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 2>out of my. System SO i can have like everybody hate,

0:58:57.840 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 2>me and THEN i can send out my story and

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 2>people be, Like I'M i want to read this is

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:04.040
<v Speaker 2>just gonna be, puns and then only to find there

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 2>aren't even any.

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Puns, yeah it's really a horrible marketing. Strategy it's the

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 3>only WAY i know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well one of the THINGS i enjoy about your writing

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 1>is that you insert the accents on the a's And Davis.

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Burton's was there important accents on those? A's do you

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.800
<v Speaker 1>do that or does the editor do? That and do you,

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>like do you enjoy?

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.400
<v Speaker 2>That you have no idea how good this question, is

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 2>BECAUSE i hit up my editor the other day and was,

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 2>like who's been putting all the accents on all the

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 2>a's And Davis Burton's BECAUSE i have literally never done, That,

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 2>like we need to make a stylistic choice on whether

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go WITH i guess like it would be

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:50.520
<v Speaker 2>read As Davis burton's without the, accents or if we're

0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 2>going to actually Say Davis. Burton's and we had the

0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 2>very nerdy accent or no accent conversation and decided on.

0:59:57.800 --> 0:59:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Accents But i'm so.

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<v Speaker 3>Lazy THAT i. HAVE I i don't even know how

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<v Speaker 3>to use that.

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<v Speaker 2>ACCENT i only know how to use the like command

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<v Speaker 2>e accent. Exactly it's the only one THAT i know

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<v Speaker 2>how to, use and and it would take far too

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<v Speaker 2>long for me to google. It so you let let

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:21.320
<v Speaker 2>you let them do, It SO I i let my my.

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<v Speaker 2>Editors quite, HONESTLY i have forgotten while writing it every single.

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<v Speaker 2>Time but props to my amazing editors for literally never

1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>letting one.

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<v Speaker 3>Slip i'm sure he has no. Idea, no he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>even know who you.

1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:41.680
<v Speaker 6>Are he's better off speaking of people not knowing who you,

1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.520
<v Speaker 6>are you, Said Russell. Westbrook that's how you knew he

1:00:44.560 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 6>knew who you were was by him acting like he

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.320
<v Speaker 6>didn't know who you. Are that's gotta be a weird

1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:52.000
<v Speaker 6>thing to when you get, dissed you're, Like i've made,

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<v Speaker 6>It you've done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well he he had, SAID i wrote in that STORY

1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:02.320
<v Speaker 3>i can curse on, here. Right. Yeah Uh, NO i had.

1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:07.960
<v Speaker 2>KNOWN i really knew because because he said don't be a, Dickhead, fred.

1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 3>That Was that was HOW i really.

1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Knew and and and as As Brett, dawson who covers

1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:17.600
<v Speaker 2>The lakers FOR, us uh and was we were covering

1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:19.120
<v Speaker 2>the thunder at the same. Time it always points out

1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:19.920
<v Speaker 2>he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Call you a, dickhead, Right he just advised you not

1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:22.880
<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 4>One.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was just general life.

1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Advice and he also, said don't be an, Asshole fred Or,

1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.480
<v Speaker 2>fred don't be an. Asshole it was on different, occasions

1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:34.200
<v Speaker 2>it was it was, great it's good, advice don't be

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<v Speaker 2>don't be a.

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<v Speaker 5>Dickhead was that after you asked yourself a question of

1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:38.920
<v Speaker 5>the press.

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<v Speaker 2>Company, no he actually seemed to enjoy that. One he

1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:45.360
<v Speaker 2>actually seemed to enjoy that. ONE i think that might be.

1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Proof then he knows my name, too because because that

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<v Speaker 2>was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Playoffs, yeah that was in the. Playoffs that was like

1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:54.360
<v Speaker 3>my first week on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Beat describe that for for someone in the listener doesn't

1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:57.240
<v Speaker 4>know what we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About THAT i prefaced a question Into Kevin durant And

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<v Speaker 2>Russell westbrook by addressing them As. Fred, then after an awkward,

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:09.320
<v Speaker 2>silence corrected myself and, SAID i don't know Why i'm asking.

1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Myself and it was on LIVE. Tv my phone blue.

1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:16.760
<v Speaker 2>UP i picked up like two Thousand twitter followers that

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:20.880
<v Speaker 2>night BECAUSE i HAD i had like three thousand at the,

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:23.479
<v Speaker 2>time AND i picked Up it was my first week

1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:26.080
<v Speaker 2>ON NBA b AND i picked up like two. THOUSAND

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<v Speaker 2>i had like a hundred because it was live ON

1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:32.160
<v Speaker 2>tnt after a spurse THUNDER playff. GAME i had texts

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<v Speaker 2>from my friends just being, like oh my, GOD.

1:02:36.480 --> 1:02:37.840
<v Speaker 5>I haven't done it. Again then if it was so,

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<v Speaker 5>profitable Question, Fred Fred, fred.

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<v Speaker 2>Every question that would go over. Great that Was burdownso

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<v Speaker 2>know WHY i was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well speaking Of. FRED i don't know if this This

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<v Speaker 1>twitter user has inside, information But Caleb slinkerd wrote in and,

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<v Speaker 1>asked what's your real?

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<v Speaker 2>Name oh well that's uh it's my former.

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<v Speaker 3>Editor so he, does he. Does, uh my real name Is.

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew What, yeah middle Named?

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<v Speaker 1>Fred oh my.

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<v Speaker 4>Goodness oh, yeah you're blowing my. Mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh fred is a nickname that everybody has called me

1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:15.800
<v Speaker 2>since about third.

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<v Speaker 3>Grade. Wow, yeah, yeah this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah people normally have this. Reaction why the?

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<v Speaker 4>Nickname Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Fred my third grade teacher nicknamed Me, fred AND i

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<v Speaker 2>don't quite remember why.

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<v Speaker 3>It WASN'T i don't think it was that Like Fred, flint,

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<v Speaker 3>Seminole Freddy. Krueger BUT i don't think he would do

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<v Speaker 3>that with a nine year. OLD i don't think you

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<v Speaker 3>do that with a nine year.

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<v Speaker 2>Old i'd be a little messed. Up Uh, no IT'S

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<v Speaker 2>i don't think it was that seminal of a moment for.

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<v Speaker 2>ME i definitely pushed it BECAUSE i was just a

1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:52.840
<v Speaker 2>weird nine year old, kid and then it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone was calling Me, fred AND i was, LIKE

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<v Speaker 2>i guess this is my?

1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Name.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow AND i definitely contributed to. It tall it and

1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:03.960
<v Speaker 2>my my parents were thrilled as you can. Imagine and uh,

1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:08.120
<v Speaker 2>yeah and just FOR i guess twenty some odd years,

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<v Speaker 2>now everyone is just amazing called Me. Fred, yeah no

1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:13.959
<v Speaker 2>one calls Me, matthew.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody like your. Parents my mom calls Me.

1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Matthew my dad calls me Matt my brother AND i

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<v Speaker 2>refer to each other exclusively as brother or brother for. Short,

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<v Speaker 2>okay and uh that those the only two people that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet, wow, Wow i'm sure right?

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<v Speaker 1>Now and, uh is it is your last? Name dogs or?

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<v Speaker 3>Dogs?

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<v Speaker 1>Wild THEN i guess our final question is do you like? CATS?

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<v Speaker 3>I i? HATE i do? IT i hate? Cats?

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<v Speaker 5>Awful Is Russell westbrook a catt or a? Dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we asked him.

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<v Speaker 2>That I've i've listened this debate many times And i've

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<v Speaker 2>thought about, it and to, me the difficult, PART i

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<v Speaker 2>Think russell's personality is a, cat but his basketball style

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<v Speaker 2>is a.

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<v Speaker 4>Dog that is exactly Because it's why it's such a difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>QUESTION i, know.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Because Russell russell reacts to a loose ball the

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<v Speaker 2>same way like a golden retriever does when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw a tennis.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball he's, LIKE i am going to get that before,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody and then he, does and then he will run

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<v Speaker 2>back in the other direction when he gets in so

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<v Speaker 2>excited that.

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<v Speaker 5>He got the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball but the, personality but the personality is very cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Like BUT i think the personality contributes to more of his,

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<v Speaker 2>life like he, is he is being a.

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<v Speaker 3>Person for longer than he is playing.

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<v Speaker 4>Basketball so if you had to pick one or the, other.

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<v Speaker 2>You're, saying SO i have to say cat because that

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<v Speaker 2>is the more predominant thing because like he's a person

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<v Speaker 2>all the, time but.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Player Some, Yeah and we asked him. That we asked

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<v Speaker 1>all The All stars that there as many as we

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<v Speaker 1>could at An All star, weekend IF i do, recall

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<v Speaker 1>we asked that directly To Russell Westbrook and AS i

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<v Speaker 1>asked the, question he had his back turned to. Me

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<v Speaker 1>he just he was sitting on a, chair but for some,

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<v Speaker 1>reason his mood was telling him to turn his back to.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and it was very, catlike there's no way around.

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<v Speaker 1>It and he was being a person that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>being a basketball. Player so you're right, On Matthew doggs

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<v Speaker 1>now freight. CATS i thank, You fred for coming and

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<v Speaker 1>this was a lot of. Fun it's. Great you can

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<v Speaker 1>Catch fred's work On The athletic and as a host

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<v Speaker 1>Of wizards After, dark a postgame, podcast and we will

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<v Speaker 1>be back with our daily show On. Tuesday thanks, everybody

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<v Speaker 7>For it's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Already it's gonna be.

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