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Speaker 1: Welcome to No Dunks. I'm tas Melie here with the Fellows, Skeets,

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Speaker 1: Trey Lee and j D. And we were very excited

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Speaker 1: to have in studio Washington Wizards, beat writer for The

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Speaker 1: Athletic and host of Wizards After Dark, a Wizard's postgame podcast.

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Speaker 1: He used to cover the Thunder. He loves a good pun.

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Speaker 1: Fred Katz is in the building. Fred, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing to be with the guys to do

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Speaker 2: the pun gun. That's just an incredible experience for me.

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Speaker 1: We will get to that later. First, we got to

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Speaker 1: start with the sad news, the most important news that

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Speaker 1: rock the NBA on Sunday, and you were down at

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Speaker 1: the Hawks and the Wizards, touching stuff happening all over

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Speaker 1: the place with the violation, the twenty four second violation,

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Speaker 1: eight second violation to start the game, Tray Young wearing

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Speaker 1: the number eight for those two violations and then sharing

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Speaker 1: a stories postgame. Just give us the feeling of what

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Speaker 1: it was like to be in that building.

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Speaker 2: It it was so weird because like and I was,

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Speaker 2: I was talking about this with people last night. You

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Speaker 2: when you go through tragedy, you kind of want to

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Speaker 2: turn to things as distractions, whatever those distractions might be

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Speaker 2: in your life, and for a lot of us, it's

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Speaker 2: just sports. And it was weird going to the sporting event,

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Speaker 2: but having that be the opposite of the distraction, having

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Speaker 2: that be the memorial, you kind of didn't know where

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Speaker 2: to turn. And it's weird because everybody you talked to

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Speaker 2: either knew Kobe or knew someone who knew him, knew

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Speaker 2: his family.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was such a just just dark and horrible experience.

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Speaker 2: I think for just everybody involved, it felt like nobody

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Speaker 2: really wanted to be there and how how could you?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: After going through it, though, do you think looking back

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Speaker 1: that they should have played the games? Was it therapeutic

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Speaker 1: for people? Was it good for players to just get

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Speaker 1: thrown into the fire to be able to instead of

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Speaker 1: be sitting at home and grieving, to be able to

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Speaker 1: be with their colleagues who were sharing the same experience

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Speaker 1: as them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I've thought about it a lot. I kind of understand

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Speaker 2: both perspectives. Like for Isaiah Thomas, No, like Isaiah Thomas,

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Speaker 2: he was super close with Kobe, and he said after

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Speaker 2: the game that he thought the games should have been canceled,

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Speaker 2: and that's a perfectly legit way to feel. I think

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Speaker 2: everybody kind of grieves in their own way. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: there were players like I think it was Kawhi right

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Speaker 2: who said last night that Kobe would have wanted them

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Speaker 2: to play. So I think everybody just kind of grieves

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Speaker 2: in their own way. Kyrie Irving, you know, missed last

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Speaker 2: night's game for personal reasons, reasons, like everybody just kind

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Speaker 2: of needs to handle it in their own way. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the league could have done, because it

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Speaker 2: must have been I imagine, just so difficult that Rockets

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Speaker 2: game was about to tip off when when the news

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Speaker 2: from a logistical perspective to to figure out what to

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Speaker 2: think it's worth like making any sort of criticism of

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Speaker 2: the league because I don't I can't imagine a way

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Speaker 2: don't know. I imagine it's different for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've you've already written about the game, your experience there.

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Speaker 1: Do you mind sharing with us here the Player's Tribune

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Speaker 1: story about Kobe that you shared in your article today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love that story.

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Speaker 2: So I was I was chatting with with with someone

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Speaker 2: who worked at the Players Tribune like years ago, and

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Speaker 2: I had this conversation with this person like must have

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Speaker 2: been it was. It was years ago for sure, not

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Speaker 2: too long after Kobe wrote to your Basketball. This person

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Speaker 2: told me that, you know, during Players Tribune, it's like

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Speaker 2: just hacking away at the computers. It's it's unbelievable that

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Speaker 2: like Kevin Duran is not Walt Whitman.

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Speaker 1: I believed Chris Humphrey's swimming stories though I believe I

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Speaker 3: Probably did.

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Speaker 2: He probably did Chris Humphreys being a being a legitimate,

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Speaker 2: amazing swimmer and beating Michael Phelps. It is one of

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Speaker 2: players don't really read that. So they'll do an interview

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Speaker 2: and and a ghost writer will will pennant first, you know,

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Speaker 2: perfect sense because it's all the stuff on there is

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Speaker 2: to run this. This is perfect, don't edit it. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Was when Kobe sent in to your basketball Wow, and

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Speaker 2: they were like, this is really good. It's Kobe, Like

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Speaker 2: what are we going to do? I guess we just

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Speaker 2: we run it. They ran it and then he turns

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Speaker 2: it into an aimute short and it wins an oscar

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Speaker 2: and it's like this this, and I just think it's

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Speaker 2: so you know, I didn't know Kobe, but I just

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Speaker 2: think it's so from everything that you hear about him,

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Speaker 2: I just I always thought that story was incredible, and

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Speaker 2: so I hit up this person yesterday and I was like,

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Speaker 2: it is such a great way to kind of remember

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Speaker 2: his character, I thought, And so I wrote that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That was phenomenal. It was great in clue that there

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Speaker 1: are stories coming out of that Hawk's Wizard's game as well,

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Speaker 1: just showing how as you said, the mom mentality dedicated

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Speaker 1: the past few years since his retirement, to his children,

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Speaker 1: and Trey Jung talked about postgame how Gigi Giana, his

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Speaker 1: playing basketball. So Kobe reached out to Trey Young's trainer

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Speaker 1: train with that trainer because he wanted to see that connection.

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Speaker 1: He wanted that for his child. And I thought that

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Speaker 1: was a great story, and that's how their sort of relationship,

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Speaker 1: Kobe and Trey Young's relationship sort of blossomed, and it

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Speaker 1: was great. I don't know how a lot of these

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it was all in all. I

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Speaker 1: think it was therapeutic and it was very very difficult

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Speaker 1: was a good thing in the end. But we can

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Speaker 1: move on now to a little wizard's talk. What we

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Speaker 1: what we booked you in here for everyone's favorite thing

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Speaker 1: a while ago.

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Speaker 3: Wizard stop, Well, I.

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Speaker 4: Love, honestly in all honesty that we had because we

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Speaker 4: came in late last night to do the podcast talking

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Speaker 4: about Kobe and trying to wrap our heads around our fields.

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Speaker 4: And like I think, like most people I'm sure listening

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Speaker 4: still like in a funk, sad, obviously grieving. I know

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Speaker 4: I am, But I will say I love seeing Fred

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Speaker 4: just a lovable looking guy, smiley guy. So I'm happy

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Speaker 4: that you know, by no means what we're moving on

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Speaker 4: bit back to business, that MoMA mentality. And I'm happy

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Speaker 4: that you are here today, even around these weird, unfortunate circumstances.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm very excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: I think you guys, you guys provide a wonderful experience,

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Speaker 2: which is that you make people laugh when they need

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Speaker 2: to try.

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Speaker 4: So we tried to. We got a great Kobe story

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Speaker 4: from le last night asking about the World Cup.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to dig it up if

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Speaker 5: I can. If I can, You've got the clip. I've

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Speaker 5: got the clip. I just it's on a drive. I'm

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Speaker 5: trying to see if I can access the drives.

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Speaker 3: Oh JD.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, you're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk. Let's talk some Wizards like Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's not as depressing as it seemed to be

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Speaker 1: coming into the season, I think, yeah, fred Zog, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's that's that's that's.

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Speaker 1: True because I think there are some likable characters. It has.

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Speaker 1: It has been a positive viewing experience for the casual

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Speaker 1: games and they say, WHOA, I like these guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: Mura very likable guy. You mentioned the new Isaiah Thomas.

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Speaker 1: There's stories like Davis Burton's, Garrison Matthews. Garrison Matthews. In general,

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Speaker 1: has covering the Wizard's been fun this year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually has. It has. The defenses is wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and fifty two On Sunday they gave

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm pretty sure that the Hawks and Wizards have

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's it's wild.

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Speaker 2: I mean John Collins had about seven hundred sixty eight

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Speaker 2: But they what's weird about it, and it kind of

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Speaker 2: And yet the vibe could not be more different this

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Speaker 2: Like everybody, not just the players, just everybody. I think

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff, Scott Brooks, everybody was just like, let's

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Speaker 3: They tore it down, brought in all new people.

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Speaker 2: They have a good locker room now, they get along

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Speaker 4: It was fun.

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Speaker 2: It was demagio, like it was amazing, and like that

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Speaker 2: it's just a different sort of feeling, you know.

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Speaker 4: Do they talk about their defensive struggles like is just

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, we're just yeah, yeah, Like I think one

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Speaker 1: When David Aldridge, the Great Hall of Famer David Aldridge

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Speaker 2: I see people like to read about the drama. I

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Speaker 2: You know, from a personal perspective, it's more fun to

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Speaker 3: But he is so proud. He's so proud because he

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Speaker 2: At it, and he's so proud, and he gets so

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Speaker 3: He's got three daughters.

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Speaker 3: One, two three. It was one of the most adorable

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Speaker 4: How long have you been covering the Wizards now year

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Speaker 4: For how long in total for them?

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh, clf taste just to day. I covered the

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Speaker 2: As long as one possibly can without covering a Celtics game.

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Speaker 2: I would very rarely pregame even go you know, I

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Speaker 2: If I ever had to talk to anybody, I would

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Speaker 3: Is like like loud.

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Speaker 2: The Wizard's one is loud and boisterous and much younger, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not walking on eggshells.

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Speaker 3: No, not in the least.

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Speaker 2: Like you can you know, you can, you can have

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Speaker 2: It's it's being able to go up to John Wall

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Speaker 5: still wanted to stay away from from Steven Andrew didn't

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Speaker 3: See what pregame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pregame for sure because it just wasn't it

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it was just it's difficult to.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel though that Westbrook respected you?

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Speaker 3: I don't blame him for that.

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Speaker 2: A scrum fairy well, golden horses.

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Speaker 3: I asked him once, what say it all the time?

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Speaker 3: I asked him once?

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Speaker 4: So good?

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Speaker 3: I asked him once what that meant?

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Speaker 2: And he said, I don't know, May just trying English.

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Speaker 2: Stephen's a gem now. He is genuinely one of the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, have you crossed path with him since you've been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a story on him like a month

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Speaker 4: I love that. That could be a story.

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Speaker 2: That can be because because my story, well, the the

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Speaker 2: All it is is just a showcase of Steven's personality.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just let's just put a microphone in his face.

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Speaker 2: If I started asking him about feet, he's gonna say

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Speaker 2: some weird stuff. Yeah, So let's just let's just showcase

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Speaker 1: And that's why it was a story. When Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: He said, everybody is joevial. There is one guy who

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Speaker 2: I think he's frustrated because they lost fifty last year

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you're allowed to be upset when

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Speaker 2: big on the on the Dirk thing. Like I think

439
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: that Dirk title really really affected him in that he's

440
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: a big believer, Like that one title that Dirk got

441
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 2: after being there for what was it thirteen years at

442
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: the time, Right after being there for thirteen years and

443
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: they had all those playoff failures and all those struggles,

444
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: and they go through it and Dirk carries him to

445
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: a title, like he wants that.

446
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: It's that idea that one title can oddly mean more

447
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 4: than win in five or something like that. Yeah, one special.

448
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: Way this week, Yeah, yeah, exactly that.

449
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: So they opened up in Dallas this year and I

450
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: was talking to him, and I was talking to him

451
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: just about like the concept of loyalty, and we're there

452
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: in Dallas, and I was what is what is loyalty

453
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: to you? And I think he got a little frustrated.

454
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: He I know, he got a little frustrated with me

455
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: because I think he thought that I was like questioning

456
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: whether or not he was being honest and and he

457
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: said to me, like, no, loyalty is that And he

458
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 2: pointed to the Dirk silhouette on the court in Dallas.

459
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: He's like, that's what I want. I want that.

460
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: And I think he's being genuine in that. So I

461
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: think I think he would like to win the most

462
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: in Washington. That being said, if they don't get their

463
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: stuff together and they don't start to win at some point,

464
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't think and you know this is just me

465
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: just talking. I don't know if like it's a thing

466
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: where it's like I'll stay here for twenty years even

467
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: if we lose fifty games for sixteen of them. I

468
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: don't think that's gonna be the case. So the Wizards

469
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: say they want to try to win next year. John

470
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: Wallace coming back and they're gonna have another high pick

471
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 2: and their young guys is you know, the rehatch meurs

472
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 2: of the world to get a little bit older, and

473
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: I think they will be better. We'll see what they

474
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: do this summer. But but you know, the I would

475
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: not say the clock is ticking at all with brad

476
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 2: Like it's three years. It's it's too early for this.

477
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: But his his heart is for sure in DC.

478
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the way he carries himself too.

479
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: I always forget Bradley Beal's only twenty six. He seems

480
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: like a more he's a vest right, But in my head,

481
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, you gotta start thinking about like

482
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: trying to get that ring. Like he's not in any rush,

483
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: but he's still very very young.

484
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: He's at the very beginning of his prime. Yeah, he's

485
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: just a very polished person.

486
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: So he comes off as as older, you know, Lizer.

487
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm four years older than him, and I

488
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: don't I don't feel like like I'm way yet. No.

489
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: I spend like way too much time in my underpants.

490
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 4: Steven Adams about.

491
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: It, Well, I think the point about just the way

492
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: he carries himself is important because he also it's important

493
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: as far as basketball goes, too, because he also doesn't

494
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: go out there on social media. He's not a talker

495
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: out there, and so he feels I've heard him talk

496
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: about his lack of exposure sort of hurts his rep

497
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: around the league and potentially his All Star appearance. He

498
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: talked about him not being, you know, pretty low in

499
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: the fan vote. I think he was ninth overall in

500
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: guards even though he's a two time All Star and

501
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: balling out this year again because he's a great player.

502
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: Do you think that lack of exposure sort of hurts

503
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: his rep around the league or is it just sort

504
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: of with fans And I guess you can go into

505
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: whether or not you think he'll be named a reserve

506
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: on Thursday when TNT announces the All Star reserves.

507
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 3: I do think he'll be named a reserve.

508
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: I think the coaches tend to reward the guys who

509
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: have been.

510
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: There, so I ranked they you know, the players ranked

511
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: him extremely high. The fans obviously did not.

512
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think I don't know. It's

513
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: hard to say if it hurts his rep around the

514
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: league because he did finish second the player vote, But

515
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: at the same time last year, he was the last

516
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: pick in the All.

517
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: Star Draft, and so it's a weird.

518
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: DC.

519
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it mean, I mean, look, DC, it's weird because

520
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: DC is a great high school basketball market, and yet

521
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: the Wizards fan base is not too large and is

522
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: not that passionate, and so you know, the Wizards have

523
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: to be really good to get a lot of national

524
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: TV games and that kind of stuff. I don't know

525
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: how much that affects players. I feel like players tend

526
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: to a big difference between players and fans. As players,

527
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: I think more so tend to prioritize the guy who

528
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: can just square.

529
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: You up and get a bucket against you.

530
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 4: Yep.

531
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: And Bradley Beal can definitely hex averaging twenty eight a game,

532
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: and he's running an offense that we all thought didn't

533
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: have very much talent coming into the year and is

534
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: in the top half of the league in efficiency now yeah,

535
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: and can doubled every single game. And yeah, so I

536
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: think the players, I would say, the players do respect

537
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: him because of the way the coaches game plan against him,

538
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: because the way the players guard him. Because he was

539
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: second in the player vote, I mean that's probably the

540
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: best example.

541
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

542
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but not being famous has to hurt him

543
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: in the fan vote. Yeah, I mean, just I mean,

544
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: you know, not being famous comparatively obviously, but he also,

545
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: like I I think I don't think it bothers him

546
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: that much because he doesn't go out of his way

547
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: to do this stuff. Like he he doesn't really care

548
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: that much about going and doing national commercials and and

549
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: being really famous and trying for He.

550
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: Really likes memes. He does. He does enjoy being memes.

551
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: He enjoys.

552
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: So he must have loved the whole interaction you have

553
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 4: with the fan right shot and gave classic look.

554
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: He he recreated it with the Wizard's Twitter account right

555
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, he he enjoys being memed. I don't

556
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: think he'll ever say it out loud. No one becomes

557
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: memes that often and doesn't doesn't, you know, isn't in

558
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: on the joke. So he definitely enjoys that. But other

559
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: than that, like he's he's not trying for for massive

560
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: national deals like he just he's not very attention seeking,

561
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: which makes him that's I think that contributes that you know,

562
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: polished personality and stuff and makes him kind of a

563
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: not very celebrity type personality and certainly makes him more relatable.

564
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: But you know, also it's not going to make him

565
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: as famous.

566
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see him. He was pissed about the

567
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: fan vote. But yeah, you're right. I mean, I guess

568
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: he's not into but he's just not into the whole. Hey,

569
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram.

570
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: No, he's just like a He just wants to hang

571
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: out with his family, hang out with his kids, hang

572
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: out with his fiance.

573
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: A good wholesome fun.

574
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: Speaking of his fiance, he had a baby a couple

575
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: of years ago. I think he's got two under two now,

576
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: and he said he gained a lot of sympathy weight.

577
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: You gained You actually joined the Wizards right when he

578
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: had that child, so did you. He said he gained

579
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: twenty pounds of pizza and ice cream. That's what he said.

580
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: It was just late night pizza and ice cream. Did

581
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: you see that in in the Panda? In the Big Panda.

582
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna ask me if I gained sympathy for a second.

583
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: I've been I've been gaining unintentional sympathy weight.

584
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: For years, sympathy for everyone.

585
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're ready.

586
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: So much bad stuff in the world, guys, I need

587
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: ice cream? Did did I know?

588
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: I did not notice the the sympathy waight?

589
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: I wish I wish I had what a question would

590
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 3: that be? In a scrum postgam follow up?

591
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: The defense.

592
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: Is that Ben and Jerry's Brad. We've we've seen recently.

593
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: You know John Wall pre game he's working out. You

594
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: know you see the clip. Well John Wall still looks amazing.

595
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: What what is the latest on on him coming back

596
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: from the jury. Where what do we know or what

597
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: do you know? As the Wizard's Peede.

598
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: Reporter, I I still don't expect him to come back

599
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: this year. I think when he comes back, he wants

600
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: to be like back and there's no rush. It's not

601
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: like they're pushing for the playoffs. And I think one

602
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: thing that we have to remember, and it's really important,

603
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: is that when people watch him and he's going against

604
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: player development staff or whatever it is, and it's it's fun.

605
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: It's really cool to watch that kind of stuff and

606
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: be able to sit there and like watch John Wall

607
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 2: when we have our you know, our camera phones up,

608
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: watch John Wall dunk and then stare us down because

609
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: he just kind of misses performing as a basketball player.

610
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: You know, like that's always a fun experience. But when

611
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: you watch that stuff, you have to remember it's it's

612
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: not just about the achilles healing, they have to work

613
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: on everything else. Like DeMarcus Cousins is the saddest example

614
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: of this, right where he comes back from an achilles

615
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: and then has a compensatory injury. And so it's not

616
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: just about like healing the achilles. You're subconsciously doing so

617
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: much other stuff with your body. You need to get

618
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: into you know, premiere shape, and on top of that,

619
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: you need to it's not just like having a six packs.

620
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: It's it's realizing that you're actually subconsciously putting fifty three

621
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: percent of your body weight on one side when you

622
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: used to put fifty and that makes you more likely

623
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: to an injury on the other side. You know, there

624
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: are all these things that you have to sort out.

625
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody, John Wall included, really wants

626
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: to have him rush back and then have another bad

627
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: thing happened to him. So I don't think. I don't

628
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: think John is. I don't get the impression that John

629
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: is pushing them. I have to come back. I have

630
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: to come back, and I don't get the impression that

631
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: they're they're pushing him. I think everybody involved, you know,

632
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: from the doctors to the team to John himself wants

633
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: to be as as cautious as possible. That's why, even

634
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: though I think it's possible, we get to a point

635
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: at the end of the year where like in March,

636
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: it's like John Wall can technically play basketball. I don't

637
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: predict that he's gonna play.

638
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: So you think at the start of next season is.

639
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: What I think?

640
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, his rehab from everything I hear and

641
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: everything I see is right on track. There don't seem

642
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: to be any It seems the timeline seems to be

643
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: pretty pretty much what they expected. So yeah, I would

644
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: everything I hear it seems like he'll be back for

645
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: next year.

646
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 6: They're planning on winning. You said next year. They hope

647
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: to win at least next year. They got y Meheemei

648
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: shooting threes this year, No big deal. What's the team

649
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 6: gonna be like then when Wall comes back, because he'll

650
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 6: be somewhat diminished as a player missing a season and

651
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 6: a half. In that same time, Beal has become an

652
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 6: All Star. He'll probably make the All Star Game twice.

653
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 6: Since John Wall has been out. There were rumors of

654
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 6: those guys not getting along in the past. You know,

655
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 6: there was the big blow up at practice with Beal

656
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 6: when he was upset. Then Beal seems like he should

657
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 6: be the number one guy when John Wall gets back.

658
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: But Wall also doesn't seem like a guy that's just

659
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 6: gonna be chilling in the corner waiting for somebody to

660
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: kick him the ball.

661
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, how's that gonna work.

662
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: I also think people always talk about it from personality perspective.

663
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: There's just the style, like just the stylistic one.

664
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

665
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean John Wall and Bradley Beal had stylistic contrasts

666
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: the last time that John Wall was healthy, right, And

667
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: we talked about just from a basketball fit, not a

668
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: personality fit. And I actually do think I've only been

669
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: on the beat for a year and a half and

670
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: it's plausible their relationship ship has has progressed and improved

671
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: during this time.

672
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: But from I.

673
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: See them together a lot, and they seem to get

674
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: along really well. And I personally have not witnessed the

675
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: relationship stuff that was put out about them before, but

676
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: it's always possible, like when when guys stopped playing together,

677
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: they just treat each other as people and not basketball players,

678
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: And that's still just getting older for sure, and that

679
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: that stylistic contrasts in the court just doesn't come into

680
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: play in the relationship one bit, you know, And and

681
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: I think they both like each other as people a

682
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: lot on the court, though stylistically, the last time Brad,

683
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: John and Brad played together when John was healthy, and

684
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: like I don't consider last year John being healthy because

685
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: he played through the bone, spurs and everything. Brad was

686
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 2: a different player, Like he wasn't he wasn't running as

687
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: much pick and roll. He wasn't the guy who was

688
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: getting doubled off the dribble, He wasn't getting to the

689
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: rim all the time. He was much more of the

690
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: catch and shoot guy that he was when he came

691
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: into the league. And so it's not even that John

692
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: Wall and Bradley Beal have to kind of get back

693
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: to playing together how they did before. John almost has

694
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: to relearn who Brad is because he's a different player

695
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: than he was two or three years ago. He just

696
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: has a different skill set and plays a different style

697
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: and is best when you use him a different way.

698
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: So I think it's possible, especially in twenty twenty, like

699
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: we've seen, the more ball handlers, the better, Like that

700
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: is the way you optimize your offense. You won as

701
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: many ball handlers and creators on the floor. So I believe,

702
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: like as a basketball person, that the more ball handlers

703
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: you can add, the better. But you need you need

704
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: a coach who's going to be able to sort that out. Well,

705
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: you need players who are willing to figure out how

706
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: to contribute in other ways. And that means you know,

707
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: John Wall figuring out how to be effective off the ball.

708
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: You know, cut better and maybe improve his jump shop,

709
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: but specifically cut better. People don't realize and I didn't

710
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: realize this started covering John. John is a basketball It

711
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: is crazy talking about basketball with him.

712
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: So I think he has for.

713
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: Sure in a sense one of just like he knows

714
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: every playing.

715
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: It's the Lebron stuff and how Lebron like tracks back.

716
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: Plays eight games ago or yeah, eight years ago, and

717
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: in the fifth game of the season, we did this,

718
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: and then they counter.

719
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: With that, yeah, yeah, I can tell you what all

720
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: ten players did on the floor, can tell you why

721
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: they did it. It's it's almost like it's almost like,

722
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: you know, when like a great lawyer can argue either

723
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 2: side of any case. That's kind of John. You watch

724
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: him make this kind of like reckless turnover and he

725
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: will give you an extraordinarily in depth ex's nose answer

726
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: why he made that turnover, and you're like, yeah, but

727
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: it's still your turnover. But he had such an intelligent

728
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: reason for doing it, and he knows so much more

729
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: than I do.

730
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: So I don't really know what to think of this.

731
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of an amazing experience covering him in

732
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: that way, and so I think John for sure has

733
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: the intellectual capacity to figure out how to be better

734
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: at moving off the ball and that stuff. I mean,

735
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: we'll see how it meshes when they're back. I don't know,

736
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: but I do think there's a world in which they

737
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: figure out how.

738
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: To make it work.

739
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: It is one of the more fascinating relationships in the

740
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: NBA because the casual fans will say, oh, they don't

741
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: like each other, but Bradley Beiald signs on and he

742
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: must believe that it can work to some degree. And

743
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: he did mention it, as Skeet's mentioned there, that the

744
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: maturity will help them point blank, and maybe maybe he

745
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: mentioned that this week to Chris Hanes because they have

746
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: been off the court and been buddy buddy, but they've

747
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: won playoff rounds together but they haven't gone to a

748
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: conference finals, and it seems like watching it, you know,

749
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: us watching it. These two guys, they're just so good

750
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: and as you said, every team is running multiple ball

751
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: handlers right now, like they should be great and it's

752
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: going to be I guess on coach Scott Brooks to

753
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: make it happen. And let's talk about Scott Brooks. Is

754
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: his job secure for how long?

755
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: Is it secure for it?

756
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: Do you think because of this year? It's gotta be.

757
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Yes, It's fine now. I have no worries about him

758
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: right now. Whenever there's a GM change in the GM

759
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: and the coach stays, there's always the question of, like

760
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: does he want to hire his own coach. I do

761
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: know Tommy Shepherd, who they hired last summer, and Scott

762
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: Brooks have a very good relationship, and Tommy Shepherd was

763
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: the assistant GM when Scott Brooks was hired. The two

764
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: of them have known each other for a really long time.

765
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: So I don't anticipate anything happening soon. I don't know,

766
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: Like I just I couldn't tell you. People ask me,

767
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: like people ask me that question all the time, what

768
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: about this summer? It's like I don't know that would

769
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: entail predicting the future, and I just have no idea.

770
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 2: I can tell you for now, Scott Brooks is fine

771
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: and that he's got another year on his contract after

772
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: this one, and I don't anticipate anything happening this season,

773
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: and then this summer will well, you know, just like

774
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: any coach entering the last year on his contract. We'll

775
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: see what happens. But you know, you talk to people

776
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: around the league and people inside the Wizards, and I

777
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: think people are pretty happy with the job that Scott's

778
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: stune with this team. They play, they play really hard,

779
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: and they've somehow him and assistant coach Robert pak who

780
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: runs the offense, they've they've crafted this this offense with

781
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: yan Maheeme bombing, bombing threes, yan Mehimi bombs yeah ma

782
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: three and me he has he has four times.

783
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: As many threes in his career as Ben Simmons right now.

784
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: Well, but it's been more than just jan it's playing

785
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: that the.

786
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: I mean, but that's like props to their coaching staff,

787
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: right for real life. They they use Berton's totally. The

788
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: Spurs would park him in the corner if he took

789
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: some of the shots he's taking on the Spurs, Pop

790
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: would have him parked at the end of the bench.

791
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: He'd never see daylight ever again. Right, So, Like, I

792
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: think it's those sorts of things they've got to They

793
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: had an offense that was top five in the league

794
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: until they had all those injuries. So I think I

795
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: think people have been really impressed with the way they're

796
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 2: running offense and that kind of stuff, and Scott Scott

797
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: Brooks gets some of the credit for that.

798
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's also had to just because of the injuries,

799
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 4: had to have some of the craziest lineups. Like I mean,

800
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 4: I like caught myself seeing it the other day, Like,

801
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: all right, is Isaiah Thomas, Gary Payton the second then

802
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: Beale Bonga. He Like, what a weird lineup that is,

803
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: just to say here in twenty twenty. Yes, but he's

804
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: been forced to do it. Gotta get a little creative. Obviously,

805
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: he's got the long leash because of this sort of

806
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: year is a bit of a quote unquote, you know,

807
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 4: sort of a wasted year with the John wall injury.

808
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 4: But you know, we were talking about some of these guys,

809
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: your Burton's and you know, Hachamura and stuff like that.

810
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: For the injury. Has there been one in particular to

811
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: impress you the most? It is it Jordan McCrae is

812
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: as somebody else that's like maybe just shocked you, and

813
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: you're like, wow, I didn't know this guy could play this.

814
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's a good one.

815
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: I mean, does Burton's count Yeah, yeah, I mean if

816
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: if Berton's counts, then it's then it's Burton's.

817
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: Because I didn't.

818
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: Realize he was Everyone knew he was a great shooter, yeah,

819
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: and there was that like niche movement in San Antonio

820
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: that he should have been part of the three point

821
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: Contest last year, But I don't think anybody knew that

822
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: he was just gonna be like bombing from the logo

823
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: all the time.

824
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

825
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 2: I also didn't know that he's the most confident man

826
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: in the world.

827
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: Really, Oh my god, Yeah, it is wild.

828
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: I asked him he hit one from the logo one night,

829
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: and I asked him after the game, how far out

830
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: for you?

831
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: Is too far out? And he said, I haven't found

832
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: out ye.

833
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: Perspective.

834
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: So is he going to be there in Chicago at

835
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: the three point Contest?

836
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: Do you think I'd be surprised? I can't imagine they

837
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't have him like he.

838
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 4: He and he would do it in a in a second.

839
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: It sounds like I feel comfortable speaking on behalf of him.

840
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: He will accept that so quickly and answer that thing

841
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: so confidently.

842
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: And quicker than anyone else has ever done it before.

843
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: He'll get get through his recks and.

844
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: You think his release is so quick.

845
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: I'll have some story on his shooting at his confidence

846
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: at some point soon.

847
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's really.

848
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: Funny because he's a super nice guy and it comes

849
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: off as very It's never like some people are are

850
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: confident in the great others and he just is so

851
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: confident in the shooting. But it makes sense, like how

852
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: unreasonably confident? How unreasonable is it to start practicing shots

853
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: from the logo right as if as if they're game shots?

854
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: Who would say, who would spot up.

855
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: From forty feet and be like, you know what, I

856
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: feel like there's a reasonable chance I'll be able to

857
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: do this in a game one day.

858
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: Let's get it's not like, yeah, it's not like one

859
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: day he just received the ball in a game at

860
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: the logo. I It's like I'm gonna shoot it. Oh,

861
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: I made it.

862
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: I guess I'll shoot these now he practiced those forever.

863
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: Like who the the unreasonable amount of confidence that you

864
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: have to have in order to just start practicing those

865
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: is beyond me.

866
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 6: Did the team know that Burton's was going to be

867
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 6: like this or did he come into training camp and

868
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 6: they're like, this guy's crazy, because I'm like, you're saying,

869
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 6: people knew in the Spurs he could shoot, but he's

870
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 6: not like coming around screens thirty feet out and pulling

871
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 6: from there, pulling on the brake, that sort of thing.

872
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 6: Was it like in training camp They're like, well, we

873
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 6: gotta we gotta find here on our hands.

874
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: I think it was a little bit of a mix

875
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: because he kind of played this way in Europe and

876
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: they have a major, major European scouting staff now. Tommy Shepherd,

877
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: who's their new GM, has a lot of experienced scouting

878
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: in Europe and really loves European players, And they just

879
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: hired a new head of pro personnel, Johnny Rodgers, who

880
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: is one of the most respected international scouts in the league.

881
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Used to live in Barcelona and.

882
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Actually played college basketball with Scott Brooks.

883
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 2: And I think part of their reason for liking him,

884
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean they got him basically for free. So you

885
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: can get a good player for free, you get him

886
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: for free. But I think part of the reason for

887
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: liking him was because of how he played when he

888
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: was in Europe. He'd run off screens more and kind

889
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: of play this style a little bit more. But I

890
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: don't know if anybody realized, like, oh man, this guy

891
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: is gonna have one of the two or three best

892
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: shooting seasons in the NBA and like one of the

893
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: ten best shooting seasons in the history of the league

894
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: as soon as we get them. I don't know if

895
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: that was.

896
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 4: But you think and they're like, because of the way

897
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: he played in Europe, they're probably in their minds like

898
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: he's just in the Spur system. You know, they got

899
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 4: boxed up a little bit. We can unleash him. Maybe, Yeah,

900
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: I think they're probably hoping for that.

901
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: I think there was some of that because he did

902
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: play that way in Europe, So I think they and

903
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: they knew that they saw that, But I don't know

904
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: if they were like, yeah, let's let's have him take

905
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: nine threes. Yeah, and and he's gonna make four of them,

906
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: and and he's just gonna be pulling up from thirty five.

907
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: I watch him in practice and he just does catch

908
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: and shoot drills from thirty five feet and he hits

909
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: all of them, and it's crazy, like you can see

910
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: the range in a open gym, but.

911
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: It's just wild.

912
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 5: Against the Hornets, he hit like I he was eight

913
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 5: for right, wasn't he? And he was just like the

914
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: ball was just cut crossing halfway and he was just

915
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 5: letting go of it, you know, I mean, like to

916
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 5: get that hot. You know, not a lot of guys

917
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 5: can get quite that hot where they're just like as

918
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 5: soon as I get the ball, I'm letting it fly.

919
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 5: But I guess in the system with Washington as well,

920
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 5: he's got that opportunity this year.

921
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that in that Hornets game, Yeah, hit eight threes.

922
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: And then that Hornets gam they started after his fifth

923
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: one or so because he get he gets when he

924
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: hits them, he hits him in bunches and and so

925
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: they started picking him up like behind half court. And

926
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: there was a play where he's I think it was

927
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: his A three of the game, where he just crosses

928
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: half court and the Wizard just passed it to him

929
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: and there's a guy right in his face and he's

930
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: a few feet in front of the half court line

931
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: on I guess it's technically the wing if I had

932
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: to choose an area of the court, but it's like

933
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: off the wing, and and he just puts it up

934
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: in the hand of his face with nineteen seconds left

935
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: on the shop clock. No, no, no reasonably minded human

936
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: being would ever try this.

937
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: Ever, he's shooting almost nine threes. Game is as he said,

938
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: it's always good to remind yourself. The guy is on

939
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: fire out there.

940
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 3: And he's a big dude, huge yeah, like sixteen. Yeah,

941
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: he's like six ten.

942
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: Because in your head, like a shooter, you're like, oh, okay,

943
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: he's like six six six seven. It's that tip, you know.

944
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's where my mind goes.

945
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 6: You're like, no, this guy's or if you're a six' ten,

946
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 6: shooter you're Like Steve novak and you're just. Waiting you're

947
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 6: just waiting for somebody to take you the. Ball you're

948
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 6: not moving all around the court and. CHUCKING i, mean

949
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 6: he's on a tiny deal seven million this year and it.

950
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 6: Expires he's been in trade rumors enough that it's like

951
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 6: you're just looking at a team that's not doing very

952
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 6: well in The, wizards and he's playing, well maybe we

953
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 6: can try to get. Him but it also seems Like

954
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 6: burton's is the exact kind of player that you would

955
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 6: want to keep Around John wall And Bradley. Beal so

956
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 6: what's their thinking coming into the trade deadline? Here are

957
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: they going to look to Move burton's because that seems

958
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 6: a little silly to.

959
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: Me, NAH i they they insist that they do not

960
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: want to move, him And i'm inclined to believe them

961
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i THINK i think when a team doesn't want

962
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: to move, somebody even when it's, genuine you, know they

963
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: start to leak out like we don't want to we

964
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: don't want to move this. Guy you, know sources say

965
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: The wizards really want to Keep Davis, burton's Except Tommy

966
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: shepard just came out in an interview and put his

967
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: name on. It it was, like, no we don't want

968
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: to trade. Him we intend to keep. Him it's all

969
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: just working out the numbers from. Here so when YOUR

970
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: gm just comes out and says that in an, interview

971
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: that just kind of puts an end to it all

972
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: of a. Sudden now he has to like not just

973
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: go back on his. Word it's not like he told

974
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: him that, personally he has to go back on his word.

975
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: PUBLICLY I i'm going to put it within the realm

976
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: of possibilities they trade him because there are only so

977
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: many players that you just can't, get you just you,

978
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: know that are totally, untradable that there is not a

979
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: fair offer out there for you to. Get if somebody

980
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: calls them up and offers Them Karl Anthony towns For Davis,

981
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: berton's they might consider breaking their. Word but BUT i

982
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: don't think, REALISTICALLY i think there's a very small chance

983
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: they want to pay. Him like they want to pay

984
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: him so.

985
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: They see him probably a part of the.

986
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: Future, yes they they like What trey, Said like they

987
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: are gushing over the possibility of him playing With john,

988
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: right they are. EVERYONE i, Mean Scott brooks is, dying

989
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: Sciating Bradley. Beal Bradley beal said he's the best shooter

990
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: he's ever. Seen Bradley beal is dying to see him

991
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: play next to you, know play with him And john

992
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: at the same. Time he, Is he's a he's a

993
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: perfect think all the Shooters John wall's gotten Paid, yeah, yeah,

994
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: Right Jared dudley And Martell webster And Trevor reza and

995
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: all these, Guys and think about how much better of

996
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: a shooter and an off ball Mover Davias burton's is

997
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: than than all those.

998
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 3: Guys Jarreed.

999
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: Temple, yeah so he's gonna get.

1000
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: Paid he is gonna get. Paid he's gonna get paid

1001
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: Before John.

1002
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: Wall BUT i, COULD i could see them being really good,

1003
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: together even If John wall is you, know eighty five

1004
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: percent of what he. WAS i.

1005
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: COULD i could just See John.

1006
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: Wall Like Kirk goldsberry tweeted out something the other day

1007
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: That John wall since like twenty fourteen or twenty, fifteen

1008
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: is still fifth in THE nba over that time of

1009
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: creating corner threes and he's missed like one hundred and

1010
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: fifty games during that.

1011
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: Span so people would want to play With John wall the.

1012
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Player people would want to play With Bradley beal the.

1013
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: Player it would seem like an attractive. Situation you've been

1014
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: on the beat for a year and a. Half, there

1015
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: you've been to okayc you had a couple coffee with The.

1016
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Celtics would you do you think.

1017
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 3: Is it's like a Mellow atlanta.

1018
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Situation it's it's a huge, city but it's not looked

1019
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: at as a desirable. Destination do you think it is

1020
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: for free?

1021
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: Agents probably, not because nobody's. GONE i love. IT i

1022
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: really like D c a lot to, do good food.

1023
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: SCENE i don't.

1024
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: Know i've never heard AN nba player say, like, yeah you,

1025
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: KNOW i signed here BECAUSE i went to The air

1026
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: And Space museum and it was just. Beautiful Amelia earhart

1027
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: exhibit was unbelievable AND i just had to.

1028
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 3: Go i've never heard.

1029
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: That SO.

1030
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: I i love D.

1031
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: C But Steven adams ever signs In Washington hills something like.

1032
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 6: That they got to get a history buff or something like.

1033
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 3: Museums, yeah that's.

1034
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: True Bradley beal likes it a lot. There, yeah obviously wouldn't.

1035
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: Stay And i've heard guys who were there Like burton's loves,

1036
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: It burton's family loves. It Like i've heard guys who

1037
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: are there talk about how once they get, there they're,

1038
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: like this is such a great. CITY i don't really

1039
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: want to. Go but you know how MANY nba cities

1040
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: are really ones that guys sign.

1041
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: With for the. City it's very. Few it's Like New, York, La.

1042
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: MIAMI i, mean we talked About boston in this way,

1043
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: forever and then they Signed Gordon. Hayward Now, horford now

1044
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: we don't talk about it this. Way it's, LIKE I

1045
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: i feel Like boston AND dc are kind of aligned

1046
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: as similar types of, cities but they're really only like

1047
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: three cities that we consider destinations Unless i'm, forgetting Like

1048
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: chicago doesn't get, anybody and That's, chicago you.

1049
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: Know, YEAH i Guess i'm including sort of the, backcourt

1050
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: like those dudes as a bit of a magnet for free. Agents,

1051
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: YEAH i, WOULD i would think they.

1052
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: Are maybe this comes back to the to The Bradley

1053
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: beal attracting players type of, thing, Right like maybe this

1054
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: is all part of the, same the same. Conversation LIKE

1055
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: i don't know if If brad is, UH i don't

1056
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: know If brad. Recruits he's made jokes about wanting to

1057
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 2: recruit guys to D c. Before they also just haven't

1058
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: had the cap. Situation yeah, Yeah like when was the

1059
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: last time they they had legitimate cap? Space and if

1060
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: they want to Resign, Bertons i'm not going to have

1061
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: it this year. Either they've just kind of been capped

1062
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: out for a. While they've had big, contracts say they

1063
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: haven't really had the situation to make those big signings.

1064
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: Either they tried to get Al horford h he ended

1065
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: up opting to go To, boston tried to Get, durant

1066
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: tried tried To durant ended up getting Those mahimi threes.

1067
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 3: Instead get one way or.

1068
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: Another but, yeah like twenty, sixteen that was the last

1069
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: time that they really had any, space you, Know, yeah

1070
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: and it did not work.

1071
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 1: Out. YEAH i wonder if that changes With Bradley beal

1072
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: signing an, extension whether or not he's going to. Recruit

1073
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: but it also depends on the cap. Room that's a good.

1074
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: Point you're we're talking geography a little. Bit let's get

1075
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: to uh Some japanese geography Because Scott brooks is very

1076
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 1: popular In. Japan, WHY i don't, KNOW i guess Because

1077
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: ruymura is on the. Team have you have you talked

1078
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: To Scotty brooks about his his, fame His japanese.

1079
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: Fame, yes YES i. Have it's it's a really weird, thing.

1080
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 7: Right, yeah it's BECAUSE i, asked, uh the guy who

1081
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 7: who runs like The japanese social team for The, wizards

1082
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 7: who the second most like Behind, ruey who's the guy

1083
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 7: everybody really likes In.

1084
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: JAPAN i was certain he was gonna Say Bradley, bealeah,

1085
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: certain and it was Like Scott, brooks they love. Him

1086
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: and he said they think of him as a great father. Figure,

1087
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: wow fans think of him as a great father.

1088
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: Figure AND i was, like all, right, sure seems like

1089
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: a kind.

1090
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: GUY i think he's a he's a very kind. Guy

1091
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Speaker 2: like he thinks they think it's a great mentor To.

1092
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 4: Ruy, YEAH i guess that's what they're Gonna, Yeah.

1093
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: And AND i was.

1094
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: Certain it's like it's Like Ruy hachmar at the top

1095
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: and Then Scott brooks and it's like nobody.

1096
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: Else matters in the line there, though BECAUSE I Nick,

1097
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 5: fredell who used to cover The, bulls he went To

1098
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: australia one time Where, chicago The Chicago, bulls because of

1099
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: The jordan, era are the most popular, team and he

1100
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Speaker 5: said when he got To, australia people were fascinated With Nick,

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Speaker 5: Fridel SO i.

1102
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: Mean fascinated with his.

1103
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 5: Voice, yeah well that's. True but there's a whole lot

1104
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 5: of untapped market for Fred katz In.

1105
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: Japan there might.

1106
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: Be there might be you have to find, out but

1107
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: there might.

1108
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: Be it's.

1109
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 4: Plausible what's what's really been like covering him in his

1110
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: first year.

1111
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: Here, uh he already comports himself like a.

1112
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: Veteran, yeah he.

1113
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: Is he's very, quiet very, quiet really keeps to himself a.

1114
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: Lot he's very, bright but he's kind of hard to

1115
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: get to, know to be, honest because, like there's some

1116
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: guys you cover who are just like these big Personalities jordan,

1117
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: McCrae who will come up to anybody and start making

1118
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: jokes at anybody in the. World and then there's the

1119
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: opposite end of the spectrum Where rui's just this very

1120
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: quiet kid who kind of just keeps to himself and

1121
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: wants to come in and play basketball and work hard

1122
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: and treats everybody. Well he's just kind of, quiet and

1123
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: you can walk up to him say, really how you do,

1124
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: it and he'll, Say i'm, good how are? You and

1125
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: and he kind of just moves on with his day from.

1126
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: There.

1127
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: Uh and it's it's funny to be around him because

1128
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: BEFORE i had met, HIM i hit up a bunch

1129
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: of PEOPLE i knew who knew, him you, know with

1130
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 2: The wizards or a couple People, gonzaga and so many

1131
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: people compare him To. Kauhi like there were People chauncey

1132
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: compared him To kauhi the, player BUT i mean like

1133
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: compared his personality and work ethic and that kind of.

1134
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: Stuff AND i don't Know, kuhi but From kauhi's, reputation

1135
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: LIKE i, SEE i see that he's he's very, quiet

1136
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: and he's very reserved and he just kind of wants

1137
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: to work hard and play basketball and do a good

1138
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: job and be a pro and and just kind of leave,

1139
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: it leave all the other stuff out of. It and

1140
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: SO i very very much see that from a personality, standpoint.

1141
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: And off to a great, START i mean before the. Injury,

1142
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 4: unfortunately he's, Talented, YEAH i mean it was putting up

1143
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 4: decent numbers For he's.

1144
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: Really interesting in twenty twenty because he. Is he might

1145
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: just be one of those dudes who breaks the numbers

1146
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: from mid, range where like he takes a lot of

1147
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: mid range, shots but maybe they're just good shots for.

1148
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: Him he's shooting a ridiculous percentage on mid range pull,

1149
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: ups which like rookies just don't. Do, yeah and he's

1150
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: got to get better at a lot of, things passing

1151
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 2: and scoring around the rim and shooting threes and, defense

1152
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: all that kind of. Stuff but he's he's very fluid

1153
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: and for sure really. TALENTED i think it's going to

1154
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: be a really interesting.

1155
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: Player there's a couple of small guards on this. Team

1156
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: you Mentioned Isaiah thomas And Ish smith as. Well is

1157
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: it neat being sort of eye level with a couple

1158
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: of basketball. Players i'd imagine it is just to have

1159
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: a couple guys around that or you, know sort of your.

1160
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: Height it's, uh it's it's it's good for my, neck

1161
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: good for the good old. Neck looking up all the,

1162
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: time like there's a great story to be written ABOUT

1163
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: nba writers and.

1164
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: Their struggles with.

1165
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: Whiplash were just constantly looking up and scrums all the.

1166
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: Time and then they only respect taller guys Like Trey

1167
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: kirby more the players. Do i'm convinced they got no

1168
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 4: time for us, five, ten eleven of the. World they

1169
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 4: want to see the six four to six, Fives, like, yeah,

1170
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 4: okay this guy's. TALL i respect this, guy gets.

1171
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: It but it's, funny is like the big guys consider

1172
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: themselves almost like normal height and then in a figurative,

1173
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: sense look down on everybody like like they would Consider trey,

1174
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: short Like Steven, adams would Call trey short and genuinely

1175
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: think of him as, short not not comprehend that he

1176
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: is the large one in the. World you, Know, hey

1177
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: WHEN i was WHEN i was in college At, SYRACUSE

1178
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: i was ABOUT i was a manager on the basketball,

1179
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: team AND i was about half an inch or an

1180
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: inch taller Than Johnny. Flynn, wow great, Dude Johnny, flynton

1181
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: very upset that he he had the career that he.

1182
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: Had qu awesome, dude amazing. Leader AND i was rebounding

1183
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: pregame And johnny was walking by and a ball like

1184
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: ricocheted to, us AND i kind of grabbed it with

1185
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: not realizing he was, there and just kind of handed

1186
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: it over to, him and he kind of gave, me

1187
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: gave me like a like a joking intense look from

1188
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: me still in the rebound from, him AND i made

1189
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 2: a joke about being taller than. Him johnny such a nice,

1190
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: GUY i, mean like unbelievably nice, Guy like would go

1191
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: out of his way to lead that entire, Program like

1192
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: the way people talk about Like Damian lillard was kind

1193
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: of HOW i viewed him as like a leader in

1194
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 2: that locker.

1195
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: Room it was.

1196
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: Incredible he was like an incredible guy to. Watch it

1197
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: was a year old in me and it was. Amazing

1198
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: but he had this wild competitive. Streak SO i made

1199
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: a joke about his height and he looks at me and,

1200
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: SAYS i will give you a trampoline and still dunk on.

1201
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 4: You are you still playing it?

1202
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: On oh my, God i'm, terrible but. Terrible, yeah, yeah, terrible.

1203
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 4: But you're.

1204
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: PLAYING i.

1205
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 4: Try, okay good for.

1206
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: YOU i attempt.

1207
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 5: To just before the other guy's turned up this, morning

1208
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: we're talking off off the mic BECAUSE i assumed you

1209
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: were AN la guy because you started there at The Clipper.

1210
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 5: Blog but you told me From New york AND i was,

1211
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 5: like how does A New york kid become a work

1212
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 5: for The clipper? Blog BECAUSE i thought it was a funny.

1213
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 5: Story SO i tell you guys how that all, Started.

1214
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: How it became A clipper.

1215
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: Friend, Yeah Eric, Paikowski, Yes Eric paikowski In Kobe BRYANT

1216
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: nba Court side ninety, Eight killer shooting for, him just

1217
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: dran and.

1218
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: Stuff.

1219
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 4: Form it was.

1220
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: Great great digital.

1221
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: Form it.

1222
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: Was it was. Awesome it was.

1223
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: Killer and SO i was eight years. Old it's, LIKE

1224
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 2: i Guess i'm a fan of this Awesome clippers team

1225
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: nine and forty one in the, lockout yere got to

1226
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: got to root for a team run by an old racist. Owner,

1227
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 2: yeah it was one of my best life.

1228
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 4: Decisions yeah so you STILL i mean.

1229
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: NO i, agree, no not.

1230
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: Anymore you lose it when you cover the. League BUT

1231
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: i grew up A clippers. Fan it stopped being A

1232
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: clippers fan just, in just in time to make it

1233
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: all not worth.

1234
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: It we hear. You we came here just as The

1235
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Speaker 1: raptors got, good and you dropped a Yan ma three

1236
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: mece pun a little. Earlier we know you love a good.

1237
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: Pun Jesse smith sent this in On. Twitter what's more

1238
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: satisfying writing a good story or coming up with just

1239
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: the right? PUN i and if you, can if you

1240
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: want to recall one of your great punts from this,

1241
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: season because you've been dropping some some hot, ones.

1242
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: Very pun friendly.

1243
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 3: Here what a what a ridiculous.

1244
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: Question it's it's so funny, that, LIKE i work for

1245
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: A hall Of Famer David, aldridge and yet that's the,

1246
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: question the level the respect levels between my boss and.

1247
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: Me it's just unbelievably. Disparity uh, yeah probably the. Pun, sadly,

1248
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: sadly when you know you got a good one on

1249
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: top of the. World, yeah you let it fire, off

1250
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: likely with a banana. Peel you just that's what he's.

1251
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: Doing did you ever hold on to a great pun

1252
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 4: to make it into the article or you're fired it On?

1253
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: Twitter, NO i don't really put puns in my. Articles.

1254
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: YEAH i FIND i find them grading and, writing AND

1255
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: i don't enjoy them and makes it seem like you're

1256
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: trying too. Hard they're good in, headlines, yeah same with the.

1257
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: Headlines click every once in a, while you can have

1258
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: a play on words in, Writing BUT i don't really

1259
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: like them in, writing SO i very very rarely use

1260
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: them in writing unless the situation really really calls for.

1261
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: It So twitter is like my perfect doubt to get

1262
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: out of my. System SO i can have like everybody hate,

1263
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: me and THEN i can send out my story and

1264
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: people be, Like I'M i want to read this is

1265
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: just gonna be, puns and then only to find there

1266
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: aren't even any.

1267
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: Puns, yeah it's really a horrible marketing. Strategy it's the

1268
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: only WAY i know how to do it.

1269
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Well one of the THINGS i enjoy about your writing

1270
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: is that you insert the accents on the a's And Davis.

1271
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: Burton's was there important accents on those? A's do you

1272
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: do that or does the editor do? That and do you,

1273
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: like do you enjoy?

1274
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: That you have no idea how good this question, is

1275
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i hit up my editor the other day and was,

1276
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: like who's been putting all the accents on all the

1277
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: a's And Davis Burton's BECAUSE i have literally never done, That,

1278
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: like we need to make a stylistic choice on whether

1279
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Speaker 2: we're gonna go WITH i guess like it would be

1280
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Speaker 2: read As Davis burton's without the, accents or if we're

1281
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Speaker 2: going to actually Say Davis. Burton's and we had the

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00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: very nerdy accent or no accent conversation and decided on.

1283
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: Accents But i'm so.

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Lazy THAT i. HAVE I i don't even know how

1285
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: to use that.

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Speaker 2: ACCENT i only know how to use the like command

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Speaker 2: e accent. Exactly it's the only one THAT i know

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01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: how to, use and and it would take far too

1289
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: long for me to google. It so you let let

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01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: you let them do, It SO I i let my my.

1291
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: Editors quite, HONESTLY i have forgotten while writing it every single.

1292
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: Time but props to my amazing editors for literally never

1293
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: letting one.

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01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 3: Slip i'm sure he has no. Idea, no he doesn't

1295
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: even know who you.

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01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 6: Are he's better off speaking of people not knowing who you,

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 6: are you, Said Russell. Westbrook that's how you knew he

1298
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 6: knew who you were was by him acting like he

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Speaker 6: didn't know who you. Are that's gotta be a weird

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01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 6: thing to when you get, dissed you're, Like i've made,

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Speaker 6: It you've done it.

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01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: Well he he had, SAID i wrote in that STORY

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01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: i can curse on, here. Right. Yeah Uh, NO i had.

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01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: KNOWN i really knew because because he said don't be a, Dickhead, fred.

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01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: That Was that was HOW i really.

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01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 2: Knew and and and as As Brett, dawson who covers

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01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: The lakers FOR, us uh and was we were covering

1308
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: the thunder at the same. Time it always points out

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: he didn't.

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: Call you a, dickhead, Right he just advised you not

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01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: to be.

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01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 4: One.

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01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah it was just general life.

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01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: Advice and he also, said don't be an, Asshole fred Or,

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01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: fred don't be an. Asshole it was on different, occasions

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01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: it was it was, great it's good, advice don't be

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01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: don't be a.

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01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 5: Dickhead was that after you asked yourself a question of

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01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 5: the press.

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01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: Company, no he actually seemed to enjoy that. One he

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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: actually seemed to enjoy that. ONE i think that might be.

1322
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: Proof then he knows my name, too because because that

1323
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: was the.

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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: Playoffs, yeah that was in the. Playoffs that was like

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01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 3: my first week on the.

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 4: Beat describe that for for someone in the listener doesn't

1327
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 4: know what we're talking.

1328
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: About THAT i prefaced a question Into Kevin durant And

1329
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: Russell westbrook by addressing them As. Fred, then after an awkward,

1330
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: silence corrected myself and, SAID i don't know Why i'm asking.

1331
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: Myself and it was on LIVE. Tv my phone blue.

1332
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: UP i picked up like two Thousand twitter followers that

1333
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: night BECAUSE i HAD i had like three thousand at the,

1334
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 2: time AND i picked Up it was my first week

1335
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: ON NBA b AND i picked up like two. THOUSAND

1336
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: i had like a hundred because it was live ON

1337
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: tnt after a spurse THUNDER playff. GAME i had texts

1338
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 2: from my friends just being, like oh my, GOD.

1339
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 5: I haven't done it. Again then if it was so,

1340
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 5: profitable Question, Fred Fred, fred.

1341
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: Every question that would go over. Great that Was burdownso

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01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: know WHY i was that.

1343
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: Well speaking Of. FRED i don't know if this This

1344
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: twitter user has inside, information But Caleb slinkerd wrote in and,

1345
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: asked what's your real?

1346
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: Name oh well that's uh it's my former.

1347
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: Editor so he, does he. Does, uh my real name Is.

1348
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: Matthew What, yeah middle Named?

1349
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: Fred oh my.

1350
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 4: Goodness oh, yeah you're blowing my. Mind.

1351
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: Uh fred is a nickname that everybody has called me

1352
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: since about third.

1353
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 3: Grade. Wow, yeah, yeah this is.

1354
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 4: Wild.

1355
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah people normally have this. Reaction why the?

1356
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 4: Nickname Why?

1357
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: Fred my third grade teacher nicknamed Me, fred AND i

1358
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: don't quite remember why.

1359
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 3: It WASN'T i don't think it was that Like Fred, flint,

1360
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: Seminole Freddy. Krueger BUT i don't think he would do

1361
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: that with a nine year. OLD i don't think you

1362
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: do that with a nine year.

1363
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: Old i'd be a little messed. Up Uh, no IT'S

1364
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: i don't think it was that seminal of a moment for.

1365
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: ME i definitely pushed it BECAUSE i was just a

1366
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: weird nine year old, kid and then it was just

1367
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: like everyone was calling Me, fred AND i was, LIKE

1368
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: i guess this is my?

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01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: Name.

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01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: Wow AND i definitely contributed to. It tall it and

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01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: my my parents were thrilled as you can. Imagine and uh,

1372
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: yeah and just FOR i guess twenty some odd years,

1373
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: now everyone is just amazing called Me. Fred, yeah no

1374
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 2: one calls Me, matthew.

1375
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: Nobody like your. Parents my mom calls Me.

1376
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: Matthew my dad calls me Matt my brother AND i

1377
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: refer to each other exclusively as brother or brother for. Short,

1378
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: okay and uh that those the only two people that's

1379
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: pretty much.

1380
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 4: Yet, wow, Wow i'm sure right?

1381
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: Now and, uh is it is your last? Name dogs or?

1382
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 3: Dogs?

1383
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: Well thanks To caleb for sending me, amazing amazing stuff.

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01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 7: That's.

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01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: Wild THEN i guess our final question is do you like? CATS?

1386
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: I i? HATE i do? IT i hate? Cats?

1387
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 5: Awful Is Russell westbrook a catt or a? Dog?

1388
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: Oh we asked him.

1389
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: That I've i've listened this debate many times And i've

1390
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: thought about, it and to, me the difficult, PART i

1391
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: Think russell's personality is a, cat but his basketball style

1392
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: is a.

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01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 4: Dog that is exactly Because it's why it's such a difficult.

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 3: QUESTION i, know.

1395
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: Because Because Russell russell reacts to a loose ball the

1396
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: same way like a golden retriever does when you.

1397
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: Throw a tennis.

1398
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: Ball he's, LIKE i am going to get that before,

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01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: anybody and then he, does and then he will run

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: back in the other direction when he gets in so

1401
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: excited that.

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01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 5: He got the.

1403
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: Ball but the, personality but the personality is very cat.

1404
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: Like BUT i think the personality contributes to more of his,

1405
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: life like he, is he is being a.

1406
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: Person for longer than he is playing.

1407
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 4: Basketball so if you had to pick one or the, other.

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: You're, saying SO i have to say cat because that

1409
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: is the more predominant thing because like he's a person

1410
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: all the, time but.

1411
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: He's a basketball.

1412
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: Player Some, Yeah and we asked him. That we asked

1413
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: all The All stars that there as many as we

1414
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: could at An All star, weekend IF i do, recall

1415
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: we asked that directly To Russell Westbrook and AS i

1416
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: asked the, question he had his back turned to. Me

1417
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: he just he was sitting on a, chair but for some,

1418
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: reason his mood was telling him to turn his back to.

1419
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: Me and it was very, catlike there's no way around.

1420
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: It and he was being a person that he wasn't

1421
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: being a basketball. Player so you're right, On Matthew doggs

1422
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: now freight. CATS i thank, You fred for coming and

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01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: this was a lot of. Fun it's. Great you can

1424
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: Catch fred's work On The athletic and as a host

1425
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: Of wizards After, dark a postgame, podcast and we will

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01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: be back with our daily show On. Tuesday thanks, everybody

1427
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: be every.

1428
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 3: Minute it's been so long that you're the Fun i've waiting.

1429
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 7: For it's happened.

1430
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: Already it's gonna be.

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01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 4: Grivy