WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Weezer 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:09.200 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Just Fake 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:10.840 It Tea, make It Here we Go. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:19.320 Suprema Shuck Suh, Supremo role called Suprema shut shut Supremo 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.240 role called Supremo shut sup Supremo. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:29.080 Role called Supremo shut Up. Supremo role calls Ryner Cuomo. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.040 Yeah, Wilson Belle four Heroes in ninety four. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:34.960 Yeah, save me from Hell. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:41.600 Roll call Supremo Suh sut Supremo role called Suprema suck 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:43.720 suh Suprema role call. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.960 My name is Fante, Yeah, not Deze's on me hero. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:47.640 Yeah. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.080 Found out about Wheezer playing on guitar Hero. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:59.480 Supprimo Sun Sun Supremo role called Supremo Sure Sun Supremo. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.960 Role call name is Sugar. Yeah, I'm such a Geezer. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:03.600 Yeah. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:10.920 My first concert, Yeah it was the actual Buddy Holly Suprema. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.880 Roll call Dreamer So Supremo. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:21.560 Roll call I'm me yes me b Yeah, goddamn yeah, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.280 I am roll. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:30.800 Sir s Suprema roll call Suprema so so Supremo. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:31.640 Roll call. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.400 My name is Patrick Wilson's him in New York City. Yeah, 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.160 I want to say ahead of my wife because she's 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.280 exceptionally pretty. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:41.880 From downtown. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:47.600 Suprema roll call, Suprema So soun Suprema roll call. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:53.360 My name is Jonas, Actually it's not. Yeah, it's Rivers. Yeah, 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.080 busted rhymes on the spot. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:03.640 So Prema roll call, Suprema Su Sun Suprema roll call, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:11.119 Suprema su su Suprema roll Suprema Sun Sun supremea roll. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.080 That's the first time a guest has ever voluntarily raised 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:16.959 their hand to go next. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:23.079 Yes, well done. Every other guest is like, not me, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.840 I'm not doing. Pladies and gentlemen, Welcome to quest Love Supreme. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.960 I am quest Love your host team Supreme. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:35.040 Good people. Morning, good morning, morning, good morning, yes, good morning. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:36.040 Fucking cough, good morning. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:37.880 Nothing happened. Nothing happened today. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:48.799 Speaking of ninety four, yo, whoa right, wow, okay, met as, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:54.200 we kind of reflect on the significance of April ninety four, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.200 which was probably significant for two X June. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:58.519 Yeah. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.679 Well no, no, well, April ninety four being the the 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.040 domino that also ends in June. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:06.799 Wait, how do you know the date by heart? 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:07.959 I'm talking about Ojson. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.440 Yeah, I know that you're talking about. Who commits that 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.160 to memory? Oh because of the basketball game. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.519 Now, I watched the I was unemployed that summer, so 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:18.640 I watched the whole trial. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:20.960 You weren't working on an Electric lady then. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.600 Now it was right before I started. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:23.560 Did you start there? 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.000 Ninety six? Yeah, middle ninety so this. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.520 Is the way after you guys. Okay, I see. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:36.440 Basically, I will probably say that today's conversation is long overdue. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.240 I think everyone thinks that they have a special relationship 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.240 with an entity or whatever, like theirs is unique alone. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.000 But I think that my relationship to our guest today 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:50.200 is fairly unique than that of their fan bases connection 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:50.560 to them. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:51.960 Yeah, what did your role call mean? 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:52.360 Well? 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.320 Yeah, I was going to say that when I tell 0:03:55.400 --> 0:04:00.440 the folklore of the roots time at DGC Records back 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.840 in ninety three to ninety four, when we first signed, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.640 I would assume that both acts got their record deals 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.800 around the same time. I was made aware that they 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:13.200 were releasing their record in ninety four, and kind of 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:17.480 when we had that stalled beginning of which our album 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.599 was supposed to come out in June of ninety four, 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.200 and then the labels like not yet, we have to 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.560 get you a staff first, and all those things. Those 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.640 were really really lean years. So I can't believe I'm 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:36.120 telling this story so pretty much for quick survival money. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.120 Closet. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:49.040 Wait you two, Oh my god, wait the way And 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:50.240 I'm like that was too easy. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.360 I wonder I'm like under trepidation of like I don't 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.960 know if I was telling the story, yo, But I 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:03.960 will say that as far as value was concerned, you guys, ecstasy. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:05.720 And back. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.320 No, seriously, like at any moment of like the moment 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.200 that we all had to like go see pault fiction. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.360 All right, let's go get them real quick, grab some wheezers. 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:23.080 Yes, wait a minute, but how you guys who were 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.960 the people that provided, in some indirect way the finances 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.760 for my survival ninety four also doing the same. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.640 Thing we were ninety three. We were going there in 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.000 ninety three and it was like guns and roses, use 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.240 your illusion. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:41.400 Yes, oh my god, thought dude, I literally thought that 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.359 showing them hockey, Yeah, yeah, that was. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.360 Just taking to listen to. 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:50.520 So this is a crime, all. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:55.880 Right, Yes, yes, I using our guest today. But the 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.679 thing was is that I was always shocked the period 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.760 that I was doing it. In my mind, I'm like, okay, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.680 they'll want the spaghetti incident, use your losing, and it 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.960 was like, no, all the Neil Young Geffen era records 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.240 trans all that stuff, Nah, they wanted Weezer. And then 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.880 one day, after like six months of hawking you guys, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.680 I'm like, all right, let me listen to this. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:25.839 And then I became more obsessed. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.040 And then once I started reading about like your kiss 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.480 obsession and all that stuff, I was like, wow, like 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.920 there's some weird kinship here. And plus, you know, I 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.240 really credit you guys more than anything for at least 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.960 making me aware of Spike Jones as a video director. Anyway, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.480 longest intro in history, Ladies and gentlemen, Please welcome Weezer 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:52.760 to the show. Yeah, welcome. I had a whole scroll 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.040 of fan letter to do the intro, but I decided 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.200 not to do that. Just a confession, that's all. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.200 Yeah, Are you really that this was going down? No, 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.560 you gotta do what you gotta do. You never did that. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:09.159 I've stolen so much shit from you, from everybody? 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.800 Are you kidding me? I was supposed to do it? 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:12.880 So wait. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:17.800 First thing I'll ask is because of the I mean, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.160 your entire canon now, and you know you're running out 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:26.560 of colors and and I'm only jealous of the synesthesia 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.440 of it all, like the fact that you know each 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.040 album represents a mood or whatever. I'm so jealous that 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.920 you guys really got to explore that. Is it cringe 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.800 worthy to listen to your first record? Like do you 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.440 accept where you were as artists when you're making this 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.200 in ninety three or is it you listen to and 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.680 you're like, I could have that Stanza could have been better, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.320 or this mix could have been better, or like, are 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:53.400 you overly critical? 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:54.560 For me? 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.760 I'm less critical now than I was then when we 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.600 finished it. I remember at the time and we made 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.800 some big mistakes, specifically like the I wish we had 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.960 gone bigger with the drum sound, and then we did 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.680 exactly that on our second record, Pinkerton. We just turned 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:17.560 up the room MIC's uhs more that. But now it's like, yeah, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.680 that's that's what the album sounds. It sounds how it's 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:20.320 supposed to sound. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:20.640 I love it. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.480 How do you feel about the perception of Pinkerton and 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.240 the fact that, I mean, it's basically the standard of 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.440 I won't say postmodern and leftist center records. I mean, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.360 there's a lot of it, but just the fact that 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.040 now it's used as like, well, I'm a real fan 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.439 because I have Pinkerton tattooed, or you know what I mean, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.040 Like the amount of dissertations I've read about the album 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.959 and on the internet and your Weezer Palooza. Have you 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.480 guys been on your own Weezer Palooza page at all? 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:53.560 No, it's very. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.480 Scary, yeah, weezer Pedia. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.480 Maybe. Oh I'm sorry, Yes, Weezer. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:03.040 That's a good idea though, well yeah, yes, you know, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.440 fans are gonna fan and that's great, and I don't 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.520 I don't think it's I don't think I should be 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.439 like paying too much attention to that stuff. What I 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.520 care about is, like I just want when we play 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.559 a concert, I want as much harmony as possible in 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.520 the room, just like everyone to be united. I love 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.679 that feeling. So the only time that's the problem is 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.240 when like you have different segments of the crowd want 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:28.040 to hear different songs. But that's why it's great to 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:33.280 like play huge venues sometimes and then sometimes play really 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.760 little venues. You know, the super hardcore fans, they're gonna 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.480 want to hear Pinkerton some B sides, that kind of thing. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:40.720 That's super fun too. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:46.640 I assume that come twenty twenty six, you guys will if. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.640 We can get past the blue album thing, that will 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:51.000 be fun. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:51.280 Yeah. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.319 What is it like to return to it? Do you do? 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.960 You have seminal memories of the making of the album. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.880 And I'm also kind of else that you guys know 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.959 what Electric Lady was like when the dome was in 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:04.400 front of it? 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.520 Oh yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. Wait were you there with 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.240 us the day we were going to protest and. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.920 Yeah, yeah, we were trying to like tire ourselves. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.319 To Yeah, the last day, the last day of that 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.120 that the dome that was in front of Electric Lady. 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.760 He's calling it a dome, but it's a rounded brick wall. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.719 Well or no, a dome goes above you. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.880 But yes, okay, so it's at the time I thought 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.160 it was an igloo or whatever. I mean, I don't 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.440 know what to make of it. But rounded brick wall, yeah, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.920 brick wall, circular brick wall because Jimmy Hendricks didn't believe 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.840 in corners. Yeah, oh really And yeah, so our first 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.080 week there of doing d' Angelo's Voodoo and we found 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.040 out they were going to knock the wall down and 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.360 we were going to go all vigilant and chain ourselves 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.520 to the front door, like in front of the breaker. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.760 And then of course at six am, none of us 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.480 were now to stay up in front of it. Oh well, 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.840 we got to work like it's going on. Actually, let 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.760 me start you pet, what was your like your first 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.560 musical memory in life? 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:17.439 Very man low? What that's the biggest ones for you? 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.599 His face on the cover is huge. I don't know 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.319 why I liked it, but I was like, it was 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:24.079 pretty small. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.280 Yeah, he was unavoidable. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.920 Also, yeah, you know you like the even Now album, 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.280 that's the one nineteen seventy eight. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.079 It all sounds like a seventies movie to me, but 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:35.599 I love it. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:41.120 Yeah, the same mellow intro in it exactly. So you 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.720 mean purchasing that record or just. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.760 I don't know how I got it, but I got it. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.080 My brother and sister are much older than me. They're 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.040 they're like in their early seventies now, so they would 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.360 leave records lying around people like, oh, here's weird Neil 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.640 Young record, here's you know, the Who, Quadraphinia and all 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.680 this stuff, and I just thought they were great to throw. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.360 You know, it's a little Casby. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.679 Yeah, yeah, this is whatever. But eventually I started listening 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.040 to it, stuff like Van Halen. Then I got into 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.640 it on my own or like Rush right, and that's 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.800 when I, you know, got into rock. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:13.000 Where were you born? 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.240 Buffalo? Okay, okay, Buffalo, New York, up state? 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.079 Nice? All right, Riverskay? What was your first musical memory? 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.000 It was all right right? 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:27.200 First memory would be listening to my dad play the drums. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:28.280 Okay. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.360 He is a jazz drummer, so it would have been 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.240 him and his buddies jamming. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:33.800 Who do you play with? 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:35.440 Uh wah? 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:36.040 Yeah? 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.240 He made it onto a Wayne Shorter session in nineteen 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.960 seventy right here, I think in Manhattan or Brooklyn. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:43.480 And what was your dad's name? 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:49.839 Frank Cuomo? So Francis actually legally it's Francis. Yeah did that? 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:50.640 How did you know that? 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:51.120 I just. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:53.679 I didn't know. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.600 We're in a band together. So your father playing drums 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.320 around the house. That was your first musical remember? 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:00.800 Yeah? 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.679 Okay, you know I've read this interview long ago we 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.720 described I guess the discovery of Kiss. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.400 Was your kind of come to Jesus moment? Yeah, all right, 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:12.400 can you describe that? 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.719 Like, what was that feeling? I mean, you're one year 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.280 older than I am. But it's so weird that you 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.880 actually listened to the music. I was obsessed with Kiss, 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.599 but only as to whenever we would go to like 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:29.200 a department stores or whatever like sears, I would immediately 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.120 be lined for the record section and just stay there 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.520 for like the two hour derivation while they're shopping around. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.400 And I'm noticing that for a band that started. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.679 In seventy four, like they released a whole like a 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:48.400 whole collection by nineteen seventy six, where and I would 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.800 obsessed over these record covers but never listen to the music. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.920 So like I think my first experience was Love Gun 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.120 and Christine sixteen, but for yours, like what was it about? 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.280 You actually listened to the music, Like I just got 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.000 as far as the cover and that was it. Tried 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.199 to imagine what they sounded like. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.320 So when I was five or so, my family moved 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:14.360 to an ashram and we were pretty cut off from 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.160 pop culture at that point. There was a lot of 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.040 like Sanskrit chanting that that was my main music experience 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:25.040 at that point. I listened to now, but there was 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:29.200 some hippie music too. I remember Kat Stevens, Joan Biaz, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.880 Bob Dylan, that kind of stuf. I would hear those records. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.960 But then there was this one girl who was my age. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.800 She came and visited the Ashram. Her name was Shanty 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.600 and she had rock and rock and roll over by Kiss. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.960 So it's probably seventy seven, and she poisoned the whole 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:52.480 that she accidentally left it, and we put it on 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.920 the record player and we had like a little cassette 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.840 player also, so we pressed record as the record was going. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.000 So then I had a recording of this record, and 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.920 that's the only Kiss album I had at that point. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.480 It's really the only kind of rock or intense music 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.240 I had, but we would listen to it over and over. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.080 But it had the sound of my brother and I 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.240 running around the coffee table in circles over and over, 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.160 like spazzing out as we're listening to this rock. Like 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.120 I said, that's what I listened to for a couple 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.880 of years. And then then I started going to record 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.920 storees myself, exactly like you did, and I went straight 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.480 to the K section to find the Kiss albums and LEXI, yeah, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:34.320 this is incredible. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:40.040 Now cut to my mom in seventy seven saying, honey boy, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:46.000 that's the Devil's music. That's kids in Satan's snare. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.920 Well, I got to add to this story. I don't 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.160 know if you guys know this story. So you know, 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.080 I grew up my father was like a duop singer 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.760 in the fifties. So by the seventies he's going through 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:07.840 his what I can call like the revival face like whatever, fifties, 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.680 yeah and so yeah, anything that have remotely to do 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.600 with du wap music or you know, the revival of 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.600 American Gaffiti, Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley Greece, all that stuff. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.040 My dad was a part of it. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.320 But somehow like he got off that circuit and sort 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.800 of pivoted to just a regular nightclub act of which 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.480 in the seventies, if you're looking for a good time 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.960 on you know, a weeknight or whatever, you go to 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.480 your local holiday inn and somewhere in the bar there's 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:45.280 you know, some legend of Yesteryear playing. So weird enough, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.640 this is in Buffalo, New York, nineteen seventy eight, and 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.920 I guess the protocol of the day is that acts 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.840 would stay at the Airport Hotel always because it's right 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.200 next to the airport. And we did about three weeks. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:07.200 I think of Sheridan in Buffalo, of which you know, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:12.040 Boston came through the group Kansas, and I also came 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.280 through a lot of city and state names. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:15.200 Yeah, exactly. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.560 But one particular night, it was on a Friday night, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.440 and all I remember was, this might have been seventy nine. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.160 I remember Dan Hartman was just did his second song 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.320 on Midnight Special. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.000 It was like the whatever. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.640 The follow up song was the instant replay. I think 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.280 a song called this is It? So he does it 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.480 and the credits are going up, and I was thirsty. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.080 It's like, I guess, like one thirty two in the morning, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.800 I go to the dresser, grab fifty cent to get 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.840 a soda, and I walk in the hallway. Now this 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.080 is a circular hotel. I walk in the hallway to 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.440 the soda machine, get my soda, and then. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.760 The elevator opens. Now I'm eight years old. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:04.800 In that entire Hire album cover artwork is now coming 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.800 to life, like it's it's fucking Chris and Ace and 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.920 Paul and Jean and their bodyguards in no kind of 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:20.760 post makeup. All I remember was I looked, and I screamed, 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.359 and I ran to the right and the thing was 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:24.639 I actually ran. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.080 Literally, so they were performing there for three days, and. 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:37.119 You know, instantly it was like elation, curiosity, but mostly 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.280 terror because also I saw kiss Me to the Phantom 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.920 O My God, which as an eight year old, like 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:44.639 that totally fucked with me. I mean, now is a 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.600 total camp film. But the next day I remember going 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.920 to the game room in hotels all the arcade games 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.840 and bin ball games would they would have arcades inside 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.960 of those hotels, and I remember going down there and 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.200 it was just it's it's like something out of almost famous, 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:06.359 like all these women, like seeing Paul without his makeup 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:10.840 one and Gene and they signed autographs and whatnot, and 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.160 that was like and someone gave me a Christine sixteen 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.679 forty five, Oh dude, and that was kind of. 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.200 My kiss induction. 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:19.760 Wow, that's crazy. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:24.359 Yeah. But yeah, but for you, like what spoke of it? 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.600 Because as I got older, I was taught that that's 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.280 not you know, I'm listening to older generator, that's not 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.160 real rocky, like you know, that's camp rock. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:33.480 But what was it that spoke to you? 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.800 They're not supposed to be the most credible rock act 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.000 of all time, but they sure seemed to inspire. A 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.000 lot of kids are our age at that time, and 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.200 a lot of us went on to start bands ourselves. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.880 So I'm not sure what it was because in my case, 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.280 I didn't have the visual. It was just the music. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.359 I mean, I had seen briefly the album cover, but 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.440 it's just this weird, kind of abstract thing of their 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.159 design of their faces. I didn't know what they looked like, 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.080 or what the costumes were, or about the pyro or 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.760 the production. I just had the music and that was 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.359 enough to completely get me excited. It was it was 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:17.720 the sound of the guitar, the intense riffage, and the 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.840 sound of their singing Paul Stanley going up into that falsetto. 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.880 I didn't I didn't understand what the lyrics were at all. 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.160 Have you ever met them? I was going to say, 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:31.400 have they broke your heart? 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:32.520 Recently we met him? 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.159 Yeah, I met him a couple of times, but recently 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.080 we just played We opened for them. They asked us 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.720 to open for them at their last show in Australia, so. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:46.359 He uh, we were. 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:47.320 I was so excited. 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:49.920 It was nice. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.000 They were in this uh they were doing this big 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.919 meet and greet with all these fans and and they 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.919 interrupted the line to bring Weezer in there and say hi, 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.640 And I was so excited, and they're they're so tall, 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.320 They're like seventy seven feet tall in these big heels. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.399 And I went up so expectant, and and Jean saw me, 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.440 and what do you say? He was like, Rivers, you're 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:15.600 gonna be famous in. 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:20.680 Jail, was like going for the ages, You'll be the 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:22.320 most famous guy in jail. 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.000 And you were like what does that mean? 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:25.640 He's like, it doesn't have to mean anything. 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.560 And to this day, I'm still puzzling and over like 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:36.160 what does that mean? It sounds crypto significant, but I'm 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:36.760 not sure. 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.160 It's kind of weird now because yeah, like when I've 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.040 seen him a few times and you know, he's been 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.760 to the Tonight Show whatever, and then he kind of 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:49.600 talks like who's the comedian Jackie uh, Jackie Mason, like 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:50.480 it's it's. 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.320 Yeah, yeah, he was trying to be funny and he 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.080 has a lasts level like I. 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.480 Wasn't used to that, Like everything was did it? Yeah, 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.399 It's like is this Jean's Jean Summons that I've heard it? 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:02.320 Like that sort of thing. 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.760