1 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: This the one Bills Live presented by Callida Health. 2 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: All Right, happy day after Groundhog Day, everybody, Chris Brown, 3 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. You know, I didn't even know 4 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: what the heck happened with the groundhog. Did he see 5 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: a shadow? 6 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: He did? Jeez? 7 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: Another six weeks of winter? That means right that? 8 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Let me say when saying that right off the top 9 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: of the show's first time. I thought about Groundhog Day 10 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: all year this year, I didn't. 11 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Even know it was on, you know, so I was 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: unaware of this. 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Was it yesterday? Yeah? 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: And I guess he saw a shadow, which means another 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: six weeks of winter? So you kay kay? 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: Where we live, right, does it ever change? Come on, man, 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: We're not depending on a groundhog at all. We're in 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: the Great White North here practically. 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: I was unaware of this. Like I knew there's you, 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: you have punks of tawny Phil. I think there's one 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: other groundhog that's somewhat well known as far as groundhog 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: circles go. I don't know this, but I was watching 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: I think I was watching the Today Show and Al 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: Roker's doing the weather. This was like Friday, He's doing 27 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: the weather and on his map. Oh no, it was 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: the weekend meteorologist. I can't remember the woman's name on 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: the Today Show. And she she has across the US 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: map all of the groundhogs who are put on display. 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: It's pretty much much like from. 32 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: The Mississippi East, because I don't think they have too 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: many groundhogs out what you got? What you got prairie 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: dogs out there and stuff and yeah, other things. Not 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: too many woodchucks or groundhogs out west. 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct. That is not a western badgers. 37 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: And mountain lions and other stuff. Anyway, the Great Plain, 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: that's right. They couldn't cross the Mississippi, so there it is. 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: They stopped there. It's a line of demarcation for groundhogs 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: in this country anyway. So I'm looking at the map 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: and she's got icons, like little groundhog icons. 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: In like nine different cities. 43 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: And she goes, oh, it looks like Willie the groundhog 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: in you know, uh Patanouga is gonna get wet today 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: rain in the forecast. At least he probably won't see 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: his shadow with overcast guys expected. And on the screen 47 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: it says wet Willy. I gotta laughed out loud because 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: she said there was gonna be rain where Willy is 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: supposed to check for his shadow. 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: But I was like, there's nine of these things popping 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: out like that. 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: We're all concerned with nine ground things. 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's spread all over the Midwest. There's like 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: six of them. And then you have punks of tawny 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: Phil my favorite Staten Island. Frank, there's a groundhog on 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: Staten Island apparently who they pull out, I don't know, 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: a landfill or something. 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: Rabbit hole. How did the groundhog get to on an 60 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: island where he can't cross the missis right? 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he just said, you know what, 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm crossing the Arizona here and I'm gonna I'm like 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: how the science looks, and they're going to reside on 64 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: Staten Island. Plus Staten Island for downstaters is widely known 65 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: because it used to largely just be a landfill. Now 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: there are residential communities there that just put them. 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Well that used to be where yeah put the apartment 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: buildings right on the landfill. 69 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: Well, there are residences in Staten Island. I want to, 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, completely put down Staten Island it's one of 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: the five boroughs, but for a long period of time 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: it was there was a big dump area for you know, 73 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Manhattan and New York City and everything. Now there there 74 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: is a residential section of Staten Island also, but part 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: of it, a good portion of. 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: It was landfill. 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm kind of wondering, like, where does 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: this groundhog Frank reside. 79 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Comes out in Staten Island? 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: Does he come out? 81 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Where's he? Where's he popping up? For all I know 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: about groundhogs, Staten Island Frank might I think that was 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: his name. He might be the upper end of the 84 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: food chain of groundhog if you live in a landfill 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: or in you know, a groundhole. 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: Staten Island Chuck, I stand correct Island Chuck, I stand correct. 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: Staten Island Chuck, also referred more formally as Charles G. Hogg, 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: is a groundhog. Okay, he resided in the Staten Island 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: zoo serves as the official groundhog meteorologist of New York 90 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: City who predicts the duration of winter on a zoo. 91 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see why he got across the Staten Island. 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: Then now they took him over. 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: Oh and and not native and and look if if 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: you live in the New York City metro Politan area, 95 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: you're happy. Because while punk satani Phil predicted six more 96 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: weeks of winter, apparently Chuck did not see a shadow 97 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: where he lives on Staten Island, so early spring for 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: New York. 99 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: So he came out, scratched himself and started sunning himself. 100 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: Huh No, No, he didn't see his shadow at all. 101 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Would you have to ask him? 102 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: Or that is the other part of this, right, Like 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: he gets out of the hole. Okay, there is a 104 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: visible shadow on the ground of the groundhog, but if 105 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: let's say, the shadows behind it, right, Like, are you 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: counting on this cat turned around and seeing it? 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: Like you don't know if he saw it or not? 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Who's asking him? That's exactly right? And is he and 109 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: is he even responding? 110 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 111 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: And also the whole thing is a guessing gang. Is 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: he on the take to? You know? 113 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: What a ridiculous exercise? What are people in other countries 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: think of this? They must think we're a bunch of fools. 115 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Well we're not the only one there, you got I 116 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: mean Japan chase dragons around for crying out? Come on, 117 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's everybody's got every fan listen, if you're all, 118 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: if you consider it family, every family's got a little 119 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: weird wirkiness to it. 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: So you know, well all that, I gotta tell you, 121 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: this one's ours. 122 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Yes, we own this one. This one. 123 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you went right. 124 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: I went right to the Pacific rim. 125 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: Theres a date. 126 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, everybody's got their own little culture. 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: What is it the year of the snake? I think 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: right in China this year it's the Year of the Snake. 129 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: And it's all good. But you know, yeah, we we're crazy, 130 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: But come on, I don't know if. 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: There is a more inexact science than Groundhog Day. 132 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: I think it's everything. But this is more of. 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 2: An inexact science in the NFL draft, so. 134 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Science has zero to do with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah that's. 135 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: And I feel I feel bad. I feel bad for 136 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: the meteorologists to get saddled with having to cover this. 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: When I was growing up, they used to have a 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: groundhog breakfast, Groundhog Day breakfast. It was like the men's 139 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: group would get together and people would come in and 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: they'd feed them pancakes and sausage on Groundhog Day. It 141 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: was like a fundraiser. On Groundhog Day. Anything to wow, 142 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: that was from my little, my youth, youth. 143 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: Just pull that out of the deeper recesses, because. 144 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: I remember groundhog Day and certain points in my life 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: was a bigger day than the fact that I was 146 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: oblivious yesterday. 147 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: When you were in school, they made it a thing. Yeah, yeah, 148 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: because like ow, kids like animals. Let's talk about this. 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: I was. I was completely oblivious yesterday. Look at me. 150 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: I don't think you're any worse for wear because of. 151 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Its Well no, but you know, just you know, left 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: out of the festivities. But I do you know, wow? 153 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: Is that because I knew that the movie was great? 154 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I love Bill Murray and the movie Round Day, fun movie, 155 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: really nice. I loved that message. It was really cool. 156 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Does that in and of itself put it on a bucket? 157 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: Do I sometime, like when I retire whatever, and I'm 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, punk Satani not that far? Well, you know, 159 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I gotta make it, am I gonna go down there. 160 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: You're not. 161 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: You're not, probably not. 162 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: I know you too, well, that's not happening. 163 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: That probably is not. 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: You're not taking a day out of your house. 165 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: Now, I'll say this, if there was by some hook 166 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: or Crook or whatever set of circumstances where I was 167 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: on a road trip from somewhere and it. 168 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: Was passing by. 169 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to pull in. But that is I. 170 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: Even if it wasn't Groundhog, No, no, no, no. 171 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: It's got to be around now. It's Punk Satani, now 172 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: come on. 173 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. 174 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I talked, I don't know. It's 175 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: making the list. 176 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: We talked to one of our coworkers the other day 177 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 2: who had done that, gone down to Punk Satani on 178 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: They talked it up a. 179 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: Little, didn't they. 180 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: They did. I said, is that a one and done thing? 181 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: And they said absolutely, Oh, absolutely. 182 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: So there it is that. 183 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 184 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: What would have to happen on Punk Satani Punk Satani 185 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania for you to go down there? Just by something, 186 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, like like for a goof you go down there. 187 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: What would have to happen for you to go, oh 188 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, we got to come back here every year, 189 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: let's go. What would have to happen? I don't know 190 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: if I can conjure anything up. 191 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: The first thing I thought of was you fire up, 192 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: you get Bill Murray to turn on some water Maine 193 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: and it blows the groundhog straight out of the hole 194 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: with a geyser or something. Now, that would. 195 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: Be pretty bad. I'm not going back for that. It's 196 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: got to I mean, it's got to be a civic event. 197 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: It's got to be one of those things where the 198 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: town swells in size and all that and you know, 199 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: a thousands people. But what would have to happen for 200 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: like like the Beatles have to you know, you know, 201 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: the Beatles have to do a concert at Punk Satanis 202 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: for you, you two, it's got to show up something, right, it's. 203 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: A gentleman punks and tawny Phil and you too. 204 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Let's go. It's gotta be something like that, right, that 205 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: would be I mean that's the only way it's gonna be. 206 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Who's playing they. 207 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: Lose their mind? 208 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: Next year? Yeah, it's the who next year? You know whatever? Right? 209 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: And you sure next next year? Punk Satani Phil and 210 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen. 211 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: You see pitching that's can you see pitching that to 212 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: Bono and Crewe? I mean those guys are from Ireland. 213 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: They don't know who Punksitani is? NBC? Come again Punk 214 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Satani Pennsylvania. Oh what's the venue? Well, you'll be out 215 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: on Main Street in the Central Park. Oh it's big. Yeah, 216 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: it's a town of like three thousand. 217 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna be the warm up act. 218 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna be warm up back for a Groundhols for 219 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell them a way that is, that's the 220 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: only way you go down there, Go to Punksatani and 221 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: then say, you know what, we're coming back next year, 222 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: because next year is gonna be the boss. 223 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: They get a lot of people. They got a lot 224 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: of people down there, though. I mean that people descend 225 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: on that place just for the dang Rodent. They don't 226 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: need a band, you. 227 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Know, that's got it. 228 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure they have live music of some kind. 229 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: That's that's a good question though. What has to happen 230 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: for that to be a yearly pilgrimage? 231 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 232 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: God, they're all wearing top had the whole got to 233 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: be the Beatles led Zeppelin gets back together. 234 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: Why are you you got to get an American act there? 235 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: These people on the other side of the Atlantic, they 236 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: don't hear about the dang groundhou Eagle. You're killing me 237 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: with these bands, Yeah, man, okay, fair enough, all right, Yeah, 238 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: but yeah, sure, get get call their agent. I'm sure 239 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: they'd be. 240 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: The Doobie Brothers and punks of Tony fill. Oh boy, yeah, 241 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: that's too much. 242 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: Uh, And I think we've talked too much probably at 243 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: this point about ground. 244 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: That's for ten minutes. 245 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: We'll move. 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As a kid 254 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: dreaming of the NFL, all I focused on was the 255 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: ultimate goal of winning a Super Bowl, and that goal 256 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: fuels me today more than ever. My love for the 257 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: community of Northeast Ohio and the incredible fan base of 258 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns has made this one of the toughest 259 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: decisions of my life. These past eight years have shaped 260 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: me into the man I am today. While I've loved 261 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: calling this city home, I desire to win and compete 262 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: on the biggest stages won't allow me to be complacent. 263 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: The goal was never to go from Cleveland to Canton. 264 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: It has always been to compete and win a Super Bowl. 265 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: With that in mind, I have requested to be traded 266 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: by the Cleveland Browns. So there it is in black 267 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: and white. And it's interesting because just this past week 268 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: down at the Senior Bowl, Browns GM andrew Berry was 269 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: asked if he would entertain trading Miles Garrett based on 270 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: some of the comments that Garrett had made at his 271 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 2: season ending locker clean out press conference, where he said 272 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: this season was worse than his rookie year when the 273 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: team went oh in sixteenth, worse, more disappointing, he said, 274 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: so he essentially kind of put everyone on notice about 275 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: how unhappy he was. Instead, despite that, Brown's GM Andrew 276 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: Berry said he won't entertain trade offers for Miles Garrett. Now, 277 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: now that Garrett has asked for a trade, the jig 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: is up there. I think you have to move him 279 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: because you don't want the best player on your team 280 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: to not want to be there. That's just a bad vibe, 281 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: isn't it. All the way around. You can't have players 282 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: on your roster that do not want. 283 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 5: To be there. 284 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Nobody. Uh, yeah, that's it's a big deal in the end. 285 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if other team leagues or sports teams 286 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: feel the same way NFL teams do. But when you 287 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys out there going risking injury 288 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: with one hundred percent chance of getting injured at some 289 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: point during the season, guys don't want to go out 290 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: there and do that with somebody who doesn't care. And 291 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: that's and the coaches don't want to coach a guy 292 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't care. Yeah, none of that. So it's it's 293 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: a big It is a big deal that he doesn't 294 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: want to be there. It's big. And of course, you know, 295 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: the the conversations are flying around social media and all 296 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: the way around the media about which who's gonna get him, 297 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: who's going to because believe me, every single team in 298 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: the NFL will inquire about what they can do and 299 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: what the package looks like. 300 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Now, you would think that group of teams would get 301 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: whittled down pretty quickly because Garrett has made it clear 302 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: he's interested in winning a super Bowl, so presumably, and 303 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how much say he's gonna have in this, 304 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: but he wants to go to a contender. 305 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that he may not have much say 306 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: in that. I don't know that he's got any saying it. 307 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: There's I don't think he's got a no move contractor 308 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: like that. But and certainly it's not gonna be like 309 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I know every time somebody like this comes up and 310 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: said we'll give three ones for him, you know we'll 311 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: get da da da. That's not gonna That's not gonna 312 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: be the price for Miles Garrett. Well, he a one 313 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: and a two, a one in a three, he's twenty nine, 314 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: one in two twos. Maybe he has. 315 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: Two years left on his current deal at a total 316 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: of forty four point seven million. The dead cap hit 317 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: that the Browns would incur by moving him would be 318 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: thirty six million dollars. Perhaps a sign in trade could 319 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: alleviate that figure. As Cleveland has more than eight player 320 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: contracts worth fifty million or more on their books, including 321 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: the ninety two million guaranteed, they still have to pay 322 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback who just tore his achilles a second time 323 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: in less than a year and may not even be 324 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: ready to play this season, and Deshaun Watson. So if 325 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: that's done, you're looking at a big contract. I don't 326 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: know if it reaches what Micah Parsons or TJ Water 327 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: are going to get this offseason, but it'll be in 328 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: the vicinity probably thirty million per season plus. And that's 329 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: at the low end, as Steve hinted, the kind of 330 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: compensation that's probably going to be required to probably garret 331 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: away from Cleveland via trade a first and something additional. 332 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: I would think for a team like the Bills, who 333 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: are drafting at the bottom of the round, you probably 334 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: have to trade your one, your two, and maybe a 335 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: player because you're picking so late in the draft round 336 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: wise that there's not as much value to your draft 337 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: capital as other teams. 338 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: You could probably get him one this year, two next 339 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: year and a player, or one two this year and 340 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: a player all of that. So it that's a possibility. 341 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: Who knows. It will take a lot. It will take 342 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: a lot, and that is a lot. That is a 343 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: lot for. 344 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: It should be a lot for him. 345 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, And but for a guy who's who's got two 346 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: years left, so you've got set costs. 347 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: He's gonna yeah, but he's gonna want a new deal 348 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: when he goes to his new team. 349 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he can, Yeah, you can, and you might want 350 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: to rework the deal. Maybe we'll see, but it's not 351 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility for most of the 352 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: teams in the league, particularly if you can get the 353 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Browns to take a guy back who's making pretty good cats. 354 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because if you're gonna be on the hook 355 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: for a four year, one hundred and forty million dollar 356 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: deal to sign this guy up long term, you're presumably 357 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: going to have to move some money off your books 358 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: to be able to handle that. No matter how you 359 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: structure it, backload, front load, spread it all out evenly, 360 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 2: you're going to have to do something, especially if you're 361 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: a team like the Bills, who right now is over 362 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: the projected cap by about ten million dollars. So there 363 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: would be a lot of work to do. But you 364 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: make the phone call anyway. 365 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: Oh sure, you gotta find out what's gonna and and 366 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna, I mean they're gonna. They'll have 367 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: a spreadsheet, you know, and they'll be looking at every 368 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: offer and you know, you may get they may get 369 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: fifteen trade offers, yeah, maybe thirty one, I don't know. 370 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: You know, well, they're on teams. 371 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Will defending Defensive Player of the Year and in his 372 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: prime with a two years left on his deal, So 373 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: you don't even have to talk about the money with 374 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: him technically, although he probably would just to make sure, 375 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: you know. But and he's and let's face it, everybody 376 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: knows he's a monster. He's an absolute game wrecker. So 377 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be interested in him. But and obviously you go. 378 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is go on whatever webs the 379 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: website of your choice, and you'll find out there's gonna 380 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think the New England Patriots are 381 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: like they got all kinds of money they can throw 382 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: at him, and they're and draft capital. 383 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one hundred and thirty million in capspace. 384 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: And a new head coach who's in his honeymoon phase. 385 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: He can do whatever he wants now, right and they'll say, okay, 386 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: whatever you want, you know what I mean. So it's 387 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to pull off of you're the Bills 388 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: because if you know, you give him two ones, but 389 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: that's like compared to the Patriots has like two two's, yeah, 390 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: because the Patriots are like picking fifth in yeah, top five. 391 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: Next year they'll be picking eighth. 392 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So happy to talk to you about that if 393 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: you want. At eight oh three h five fifty. But 394 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars and other news have hired Hall of 395 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: famer Tony Bisselli as their new executive vice president. Bisselli, 396 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: who's had a bunch of different roles in the organization 397 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: including radio color commentator on their broadcast, said this is 398 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: the job he really dreamed about, and he can't thank 399 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Shad Con enough for having the faith in him to 400 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: hire him as an executive vice president. You know, this 401 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 2: is an organiation that has kind of cycled through some 402 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: coaches over the last several years without much change in 403 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: their level of success. We'll see what happens with a 404 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: new guy in the front office assisting presumably more on 405 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: the business side than on the player personnel side. 406 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure that goes I'm sure his presence goes a 407 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: long way in the region and for the corporate partners. 408 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Hall of famer, had a fantastic career, 409 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: he's well respected, he's a you know, stand up guy, 410 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: full of integrity. I know him fairly well. You know, 411 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: bringing good people into the building is always a good idea, 412 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: and they did that. What he's how good he's going 413 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: to be at his new job. I don't know, because 414 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that guy is supposed to 415 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: be doing, but he certainly that certainly gives them some 416 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: cachet in the community for bringing a guy like him 417 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: back in the fold. 418 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: ESPN is reporting that Chip Kelly is returning to the 419 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: NFL to become the Las Vegas Raiders offensive coordinator under 420 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: new head coach Pete Carroll. The sixty one year old 421 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: Kelly spent the last seven years in college football. Last 422 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: season as the OC and quarterback coach for national champion 423 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Ohio State, which averaged almost thirty six points per game, 424 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: went fourteen and two, including an eleven point win over 425 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame for the national title. As we know, Kelly 426 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: previously head coach at UCLA for six seasons when thirty 427 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: five and thirty four. There last coach in the NFL 428 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, when he was the San Francisco forty 429 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: nine ers head coach for one season. The Niners went 430 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: two and fourteen, and then he was replaced by Kyle Shanahan. 431 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: Kelly completes the coordinator staff for Carol, who retained defensive 432 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: coordinator Patrick Graham, who's a highly thought of defensive coordinator 433 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: in the league, and he retained special teams coordinator Tom 434 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: mcmah in Las Vegas, so only one coordinator and the 435 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: head coach change at the top of the food chain 436 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: on the Raiders coaching staff. Jets head coach Aaron Glenn 437 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: continues to build out his offensive staff. Added two assistants 438 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 2: over the week, En Scott Turner and Charles London, who 439 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: will serve as passing game coordinator and will also serve 440 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: as quarterbacks coach. London will be quarterbacks coach, Turner will 441 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: be passing game coordinator. On Friday, the Jets hired former 442 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions assistant Tenor Engstrand as their OC. So he's 443 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: filling out his coaching staff. 444 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: He is assistant to Aaron he was, He's the offensive coordinator. 445 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: He was an offensive assistant to Aaron when Aaron Glenn 446 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: was in Detroit. 447 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they know it. 448 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: Glenn's clipping further clipping the Detroit staff this offseason. They 449 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: got ravaged in Detroit and for good reason. 450 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: And then finally, Mark Maski from the Washington Post is 451 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: reporting that some support may be on the way for 452 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: controversial ball spotting as we all witnessed in the AFC 453 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: Championship game. The NFL is considering an electronics system that 454 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: would help determine if the ball was spotted correctly for 455 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: a first down. However, official would still place the ball 456 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: manually and no microchip usage here for measuring a first down, 457 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: so the electronics system that they're considering would only confirm 458 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: or dispute an official's spotting of the ball. So such 459 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: a system wouldn't necessarily prevent a situation like the one 460 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: faced by the Bills on the Josh Allen fourth and 461 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: one sneak against Chiefs last week, but would be a 462 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: step toward correcting egregious errors like the one we witnessed, 463 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: because to me, that was egregious. Uh, Steve, I'm about you. 464 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: I'm just tired of the Bills being the victims and 465 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: games that prompt the league to take action to correct 466 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: deficiencies in how the game is officiated or change rules 467 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: to make games in the postseason fairer, which we saw 468 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: five years ago. 469 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Yeah, he got I don't 470 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: know how you don't give him the first down? 471 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: Whatever, it's over and done with? 472 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: Now overdone with? And who knows there's a lot of 473 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: football to be played even in that game, but that 474 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: game was ostensibly over when that happened. 475 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there we are. Uh So, that's around the 476 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: NFL presented by Colida Health faone lines are open for 477 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: you at aightoh three oh five fifty one eight eight 478 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty. Topic of discussion for 479 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: you today, what is your big picture take on where 480 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: the Bills are following the twenty twenty four season, So 481 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: you let us know kind of where you feel things 482 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: stand with the team coming off of this twenty twenty 483 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: four season. Eight oh three oh five point fifty one 484 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty the number to 485 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: get on board. If you want to talk about Miles 486 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Garrett suddenly asking for a trade as well, and the 487 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: prospects of Buffalo being at least on the radar and 488 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 2: trying to make that happen. You can chime in on 489 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: that as well. Eight oh three oh five fifty one 490 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. So let's go 491 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: to the phones leading us off today, Bill out in 492 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: South Buffalo, what do you got for this? 493 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: Bill? 494 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: You're on one Bill's Live, Well, he. 495 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 6: Answered some of my questions about Miles Garrett, and that's 496 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 6: what my question was. The defensive end. I can't think 497 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 6: of his name. I apologize. I'm seventy two from Oakland 498 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 6: and Miles Garrett and what the Bills would possibly give 499 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 6: up for that. I would give the house for Miles Garrett. 500 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 6: I think that be an unbelievable addition to the Bills, 501 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 6: an answer to their prayers. There's a lot of other 502 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 6: things I feel bad for Brandon Bean and McDermott that 503 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 6: they need, but that would be a big solution to 504 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 6: one of the Bills, major steps forward. And I don't 505 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 6: mean to offend, but I think he missed a point. 506 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 6: I don't think a team like New England would be 507 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 6: even on the radar, no matter how much money they 508 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 6: could afford to give him. I think you're missing the point. 509 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 6: And Miles Garrett at this time wants to be on 510 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 6: a super Bowl team, one that's just a step away. 511 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 6: So that would lead to like the Ravens, Detroit, the Bills, 512 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 6: Kansas City teams like that, not a rebuild team that's 513 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 6: going to be New England. 514 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Well, I know, Bill, here's the thing. Bill, here's the thing. Bill. 515 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: When you have to be traded in the NFL. You 516 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: don't get to say where it is. And now that 517 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: you want out, all the Cleveland Browns are interested in 518 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: is getting rid of you. They don't care where they 519 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: send you. 520 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're looking for the best deal for the Browns, 521 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: not for Miles. 522 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: They don't care about Myles Garrett. Miles Garrett has no 523 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: voice in it except he wants out of Cleveland. Now 524 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: he can say he wants to go to a contender, 525 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: which puts it out there, and that's that's nice rhetoric. 526 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: But the simple fact of the matter is he doesn't 527 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: get to say win or where, and the Browns are 528 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: not obligated to consider that at all. And he has 529 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: no say in it. This is not the NHL or 530 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: the NBA or any of that stuff. So Miles Garrett, 531 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: when he wants out of clean Eveland, that's all he's 532 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: gonna get is out of Cleveland. He may go to Jacksonville, 533 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: he may go to any you name it, New England, 534 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: he may go to the Jets, he may go to whatever. 535 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: He has no absolutely no saying it. I get your point. 536 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: He wants to go win. That's that's well and good. 537 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: Everybody does but that's the reality of it. All that does, 538 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: all asking for a trade does is let him know 539 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: that you don't want to be there, and then hope 540 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: that one of those teams you talked about are the 541 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: team is the team that trades for him. Yep. 542 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: Let's move along and we go to Judy in Buffalo next. 543 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: What's up Judy? 544 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 7: All? 545 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 8: My question may be a little bit monday and at 546 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 8: this point, but I'm intrigued by all the money that 547 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 8: is being poured into these head coaches and assistants head coaches. 548 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 8: I wonder how much money, say the Bills. The Bills 549 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 8: have a head coach, they have two assistant head coaches, 550 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 8: and I see all these men on this sideline. They 551 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 8: must be assistant that's a head coaches. How much does 552 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 8: a team really invest in those coaches? 553 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: And here we. 554 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 8: Are, we have Joe Brady who turned down a head 555 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 8: coaching job, and you see a chip Kelly. I thought 556 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 8: the amount was like six million dollars a year on 557 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 8: top of whatever their head coach is getting. What is 558 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 8: going on in the coaching and atmosphere. 559 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that's different about the coaching 560 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: staffs around the NFL is that there's no salary cap 561 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: at all. They can pay those guys whatever they want. 562 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: And over the years, these staffs have gone. When I 563 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: was playing, the staff was probably fourteen guys. Now it's 564 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: thirty because there's more money for that, and they have 565 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: more stuff for those guys to do. And that's you know, analytics, 566 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: and there's you know, it's a wide ranging bunch of 567 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: responsibilities that they spread out. As the money comes in, 568 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: they're allowed to do more with the money. Certainly, the 569 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: top guys are getting a lot of money. The coordinators 570 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: are getting a lot of money. Uh, and full assistants 571 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: are getting a lot of money. But there's no salary 572 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: cap there, so you can spend whatever you want. And 573 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: basically that's it. So that coaches make a lot of money. Yeah, 574 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: and good coaches who are proven or who have had 575 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: success and doing and doing some good things in the 576 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: league that will like people like and are innovative or 577 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. They're sought after and 578 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: they get paid a lot of money to do it. 579 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, that and that's coaches are making eight figures 580 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: not seven year. 581 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: That's right, right, they're making ten plus. So there you go. 582 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: It is a thing but that's there's a lot of 583 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: money in coaching if you're good at it. 584 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. We're up against the clock. 585 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: But what is your big picture take on where the 586 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: Bills are following their twenty twenty four season? Eight oh 587 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty two 588 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: five fifty. We'll kick it off with Ames and Diane 589 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bills Live presented by 590 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: Klaida Health. It's Bubbalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back 591 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: to a Monday edition to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, 592 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and topic of discussion for you 593 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: today is what does your big picture take on where 594 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: the Bills are following their twenty twenty four season. Eighth 595 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: threeh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two 596 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: five fifty. Those are your numbers to join us, and 597 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: we do have open lines for you. We should mention 598 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of NFL news crossed when we went 599 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: to break. Offensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens, Todd Monkin, 600 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: has signed a contract extension. Joined them on a two 601 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: year deal. Just got it extended after the Ravens led 602 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: the league in total offense let's get to the phones though. 603 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: At eight O three oh five fifty and two aimes 604 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: in West Virginia, what do you got for his Aames? 605 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 9: You guys can just call me Tom. 606 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 607 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 9: But as my big picture, as a big sure going 608 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 9: into this next season, I feel the Bills are still 609 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 9: trending upwards. I still feel we're a very good team. 610 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 9: As any other Buffalo fan, I feel very disgusted with 611 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 9: what happened in the NFC Championship game, and I don't 612 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 9: really want to get into it. It'll just make me 613 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 9: upset all over again. So let's just go. I think 614 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 9: approaching this next year, I want to know how you 615 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 9: guys feel about going into the draft percentage wise. I 616 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 9: truly feel that being needs to attack this draft eighty 617 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 9: percent defense, twenty percent offense. Like I think we should 618 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 9: go defensive front, safety, cornerback, and then possibly go for 619 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 9: a wide receiver, a separating wide receiver. And that being said, 620 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 9: do you guys have any wide receivers that you feel 621 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 9: in this draft that we could get possibly in a 622 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 9: fourth round pick or a third round pick maybe even later, 623 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 9: that stands out to you and could be that could 624 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 9: could be a separator and could be a game changer 625 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 9: for this team. And after that, I would like to 626 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 9: give out a vote to my favorite callers of the year. 627 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 9: I'd like to give a vote to Kevin from Hamburg 628 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 9: and Ryan from Toronto. Always enjoys when of those guys 629 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 9: calling and you guys talk to them. So I'm just 630 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 9: gonna sit back and listen and hear what you guys 631 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 9: have to say. 632 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: All right, thank you. I appreciate the phone call. Look, 633 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: Steve and I got a lot of work to do. 634 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: The season just ended. I am not prepared to levy 635 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: an opinion on who the Bills could get in the 636 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: fourth round at the receiver position that separates right, I've 637 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: got homework to do and I'm getting started on it. 638 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: We needed last week to basically decompress. 639 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys from Texas like Isaiah Bond 640 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: and Matthew Golden. You watch those guys and they kind 641 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: of flash, but they're from you know, I don't. 642 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: Know Golden is gonna go in round one. 643 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: Right, so they might be. It's hard to when you 644 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: get out of the first round, it's kind of hard 645 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: to gauge, how because that's when teams start to diverge 646 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: in their evaluations, right you know, one team thinks they're 647 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: a high second, the other team thinks they're a low 648 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: third or a fourth. So that's when you start to 649 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: get divergence. So some of these guys will be available, 650 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: no question about it. But you get down in the 651 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: list and you're talking about, you know, down into the 652 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: eleventh and twelfth wide receivers in the draft. Guy, you know, like, 653 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: so we'll see any of these guys. We've got him 654 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: on our screen right now, you can see him. But 655 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I'm with you, But before you get 656 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: to the draft, wait until free agency's over, because there's 657 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of guys who are more known 658 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: commodities than the guys in the draft, and you'll be 659 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: and you got to really completely reset, reset your evaluation 660 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: where the Bills are on their roster build after free 661 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: agency because it hugely affects because listen, you're not going 662 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: to draft a defensive end if you trade for Miles 663 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: Garrett or Max Crosby or one of these other guys 664 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, you just you're not going to So that 665 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: changes your entire board on the draft on draft day, 666 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: So wait, till free agency. See how that shakes out 667 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: for the week or two. And you know this too. 668 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: Even even in that first wave of free agency, sometimes 669 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: the bill's hit a guy right away and then a 670 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: couple of then later on it's two weeks down the 671 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: road in free agency when everybody thinks that everything's over, Well, 672 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: they'll get a guy who really wants to play somewhere 673 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: and he'll be They'll be like, okay, we'll get you, 674 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: and they'll get him for a better price. So we 675 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: got to wait for that before we get into the draft. 676 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: But you're right, right now, you're looking at the defensive 677 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: side of the ball because they got a lot of 678 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: guys who are whose contracts are up, and the offense 679 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: is kind of settled in. You're it looks good developing. Certainly, 680 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: Hollins is a is a concern. Amari Cooper is going 681 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: to be a free agent. So all of those guys 682 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: are yeah, okay, but you've got Shakir, you got Kincaid, 683 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: you got Knocks, you got Keon. Uh, you've got some 684 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: guys you can hang your hat on to go into 685 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: the season with. And maybe this next year you don't 686 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: have to say everybody heats maybe you will have two 687 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: or three guys that'll be the lead dogs in your offense, 688 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: but for right now, you kind of got to like 689 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: the roster offensively. So I'm with you, eighty percent twenty 690 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: defense offense. I'm I'm there with you. But man, let's 691 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: get through free agency because as always, there's gonna be 692 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: a lot of new faces on this team, and you 693 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: gotta find out which guys have had time in the 694 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: NFL and which guys haven't before you get to the draft. 695 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: I will say it's probably safe to assume that the 696 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: Bills feel bless you. They need to get more athletic 697 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: and maybe even a little bit younger on the defensive 698 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 2: side of the ball. They need speed and athleticism on 699 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: that side of the ball in a big way. But 700 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: to label percentages, it's a little too early. Little too 701 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: early to say, yeah, we're going eighty percent defense in 702 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: the draft. I do think they have to go defensively 703 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: heavy this offseason, overall, free agency, trade, draft, whatever means. 704 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: But to say eighty percent draft, it's a little premature 705 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: for that because to Steve's point, you got to see 706 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: what they scoop up in free agency first, and like 707 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: Brandon Bean says all the time, we try to cross 708 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: off as many positional needs as possible in free agency, 709 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: so we don't feel like we're reaching for a positional 710 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: need when we are in the draft, because it's a 711 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: dangerous traft that you can fall into. Let's go to 712 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: Diane and Clarence next. 713 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 10: What's up, Diane, Hello, Stephen curse, thanks for taking my call. 714 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 10: I just want to shout out to good old Judy. 715 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 11: She's a hoot. 716 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 10: Love when she calls you, guys. I listen all the time, 717 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 10: but I guess what I'm calling is. I kind of 718 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 10: want to throw that question back at you, guys. And 719 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 10: the reason I'm asking that it's funny you talk about 720 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 10: groundhog Day because over the weekend with nothing on TV, 721 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 10: I'm scrolling the TV and I come across the show 722 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 10: thirty to thirty about the Bills four trips to the 723 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 10: Super Bowl, and I got to tell you I almost 724 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 10: shut up off about five times, but couldn't because I 725 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 10: did call before. I was a cheerleader in Atlanta for 726 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 10: the last one and at the end of that show 727 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 10: interviewed you, Steve don Thurman and the guys, asking what 728 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 10: was it. I don't know if I'm phrasing the question correctly, 729 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 10: but it was what in your minds didn't go right 730 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 10: or didn't happen to win one of them, And you 731 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 10: guys all said the same thing that you didn't know. 732 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 10: So I guess, speaking of Groundhog Day, I'm kind of 733 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 10: nervous that we're at this point with this team. Granted, 734 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 10: they went further than anybody thought they were going to 735 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 10: go this year, and of course we get to this 736 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 10: game with Kansas City, and I don't want to hash 737 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 10: it either, but I think everybody really thought, because how 738 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 10: great they did and was unexpected, that this hurt so 739 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 10: much more because of the fact that now we wanted 740 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 10: more because the team gave us more. And so I 741 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 10: guess my question is to you, guys, what in your 742 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 10: heart and your gut is telling you where are we 743 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 10: and are we going to bust through that we don't 744 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 10: have to watch in another twenty years this team with 745 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 10: Josh Allen going to these AFC divisional games and playoff 746 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 10: games and not making it over the hump. Thank you 747 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 10: guys for listening, and I love to listen to you 748 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 10: every day. 749 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: Thank you for doing that. 750 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: You know it's a fair question. I think we have 751 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 2: to wait and see how the roster is retooled, you know, 752 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: before we can make a true assessment. But I think 753 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: it goes without saying that there are some some upgrades 754 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 2: that need to happen on the defensive side of the ball, 755 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: chiefly here going forward, you know, and Brandon being in 756 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: this personnel department, in concert with the coaching staff, will 757 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: decide when and where that has to take place and 758 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 2: how to based on a number of factors, including where 759 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: their cap situation sits when they make decisions, whether it's 760 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 2: cap casualties, restructures outright, player cuts, whatever the case might be. 761 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of work that has to be 762 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: done before we really even know what this roster is 763 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: going to look like where we can make an educated 764 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: assessment as to what's possible going forward. I would say 765 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: that the core of the team is largely intact. The 766 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 2: coaching staff looks like it's going to remain intact. You've 767 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: got a brilliant young coordinator and Joe Brady an up 768 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 2: and coming coordinator in Bobby Babbage. On the defensive side 769 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: of the ball, those are all positives because there's no 770 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: change taking place there, so there's that continuity is beneficial 771 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: to a football team, as we have learned over the years, 772 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: But beyond that, it's kind of a wait and see. 773 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 2: So I know that's kind of a cop out answer, 774 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: but I think we all anticipate this team is going 775 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 2: to contend for the division again next year and be 776 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: in the playoff mix again. 777 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm a little more optimistic than Brownie is. 778 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: I think this is a team that is going to 779 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: have fewer question marks, at least on one side of 780 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: the ball than it did a year ago. And I 781 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: think there's a couple of things that you can count on, 782 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: as you've seen over the last handful of four or 783 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: five years since twenty twenty one, is you got a 784 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: quarterback that can take you the distance. That's first and foremost. Secondly, 785 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: and I know some people don't like to hear this, 786 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: but Sean McDermott has done more with less than this 787 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: roster and his rosters. He's maximized these rosters. I mean, 788 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: they play well, They put together a game plan and 789 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 1: execute game plans week in week out, year in year out, 790 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: far above the talent level that you would have expected 791 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: them to be able to before the season starts. They 792 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: did it all the way all the way back in 793 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and they have done it every year since. 794 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: They did it this year, Let's not forget. I mean 795 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: they everybody counted them out this year. Sean McDermott, his staff, 796 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: the straight to their staff, and there's always critics out 797 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: there to say, well, he can't do A and B 798 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: and he's peaked and he doesn't do this, and their 799 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: game management in the thirteen second game and yaha, yeah 800 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: all that, yeah, okay, But I'll tell you what one 801 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: thing he does do is when Brandon Bean throws in 802 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: fifty three guys in the roster, Sean McDermott, those guys achieve, overachieve, 803 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: unexpected contributions from all over the roster, the bottom and 804 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: mid guys in the draft and free agency. All these 805 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: guys that were okay and other places play their best 806 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: football under Sean McDermott and the Buffalo Bill's coaching staff 807 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: in this culture. So the two things you've got going 808 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 1: for is, Josh, you got the quarterback, and you got 809 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: a coaching staff that maximizes the talent that they're gonna get. 810 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has fewer of less of that to make 811 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: up for this year than he did last year. They're 812 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: starting from a better spot in this offseason than they 813 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: did last year. I would anticipate them to take a 814 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: step forward roster wise, talent wise, and as I just said, 815 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: this is a coaching staff that takes advantage of it. 816 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: And with the continuity the coaching staff, your quarterback and 817 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football that looks to be 818 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: like ready to shift gears and go another you know, 819 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: run it back and go even better. Yeah, I'm with 820 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: Brownie this this team is going to be right there 821 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: for the division title again. And it's you know, there's 822 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: every chance it could be in the in line for 823 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: trying to get the one seed. I know, it's I 824 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: know it's a big it's a huge thing to say 825 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: and third of February, but that's where this team's going 826 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: to be in their goal setting because they've seen how 827 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: important it is to do that, and sooner or later, 828 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, history is the way it is for a reason. 829 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 1: Teams this chiefs iteration, as phenomenal as it has been, 830 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: we have never seen anything like it. For a reason, 831 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: it's really hard, really hard to continue to do what 832 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: they're doing, and sooner or later they're gonna have to 833 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: step up and take a breath, and when they do, 834 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: somebody will tell me you'll take a swing at them 835 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: and knock them off. Maybe it'll be the Bills, maybe 836 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: it'll be somebody else, But I'm very optimistic about where 837 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: this team is in the big picture. 838 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. We'll lead off with Chris 839 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: and Brooklyn. When we come back. What is your big 840 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: picture take on where the Bills are after this twenty 841 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: twenty four season? Your calls next here on one Bill's 842 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: Live Stay. 843 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: With us. 844 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia. There is no better time. They're right here, 845 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 2: right now. To secure your opportunity to buy tickets in 846 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: the new high Mark Stadium, join the new Stadium Priority 847 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: List by visiting Bill's Stadium Experience dot Com and placing 848 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 2: a seat deposit. 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My big, big 858 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 11: picture takeaway for the Bills is I think if your 859 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 11: metric is building putting together a roster that can beat 860 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 11: the Chiefs, the Bills are already successful. I think what 861 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 11: they need to do now is get find some of 862 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 11: those splash players, mainly on defense, to help them make 863 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 11: that next step. Now, on defense, I think that there 864 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 11: issues like everyone else has said, defensive line, cornerback, safety. Obviously, 865 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 11: Miles Garrett would be a huge addition if being is 866 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 11: able to pull that off. And on offense, I think 867 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 11: it's a wide receiver. I agree with you guys that 868 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 11: the draft is likely not the place to go for 869 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 11: a receiver who can really create separation. I think that's 870 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 11: something that's going to be done or addressed in free agency. 871 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 11: The question I have for you guys is, and I 872 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 11: apologize this has been asked before, is a guy like 873 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 11: Tyreek Hill who has expressed an interest in leaving the 874 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 11: Dolphins Now, I don't know if they'd be willing to 875 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,959 Speaker 11: send Tyreek to a division rival. He's on the wrong 876 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 11: end of thirty from side of thirty and is a diva. 877 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 11: But I mean there's no question that he's a game 878 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 11: changer and a guy who can create separation. So my 879 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 11: question is, if that were a possibility, do you guys 880 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 11: think it makes sense for the Bills to look into 881 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 11: that or do you think there's a chance that with 882 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 11: another me me me receiver on the team, we see 883 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 11: a slight regression in Josh Allen's player. 884 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know if Yeah, I get 885 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: I get it. Tyreek is an example of a guy 886 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: that you'd love to get and of course certainly is 887 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: a game changer. I get the idea, though, I'm with you. 888 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: A fast guy on the edge, a guy who's proven. Yeah, 889 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if Tyreek is the exact guy, but 890 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: a guy like that, I don't know. If I don't 891 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 1: want to pay thirty million bucks to a receiver, Yeah 892 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: not with not With as productive as the offense was 893 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: this year, you gotta forget. You don't forget this one 894 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: points game. This was a really super productive offense. They 895 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: were scoring points. They set the franchise record for points 896 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: score this year. Now, a little bit of that was 897 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: the turnovers that the defense got and shorts fields and 898 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 1: all that the turnover ratio, but yeah, Tyreek, maybe whatever, 899 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: but probably not because of the price. But yes, that 900 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: type of difference maker, get it somewhere, find it. I'm 901 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: with you. Splash players on defense, you need you need it. 902 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: You need a big time corner, you need a big 903 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: time pass rusher. Plus you know, I think you got 904 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: to get faster on the back end. And you know 905 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: that starts with a with a corner. But yeah, you're 906 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: right on it. With all that, I'm not sure if 907 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: Tyreek's the exact guy, but a guy like yes, an 908 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: edge guy. Speed is always a good thing. And I 909 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: think the Bills this year, at the end of it, 910 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: you think, and I wish they were a little faster. 911 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean they were. I mean they got to the 912 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: AFC the conference final game and then got a couple 913 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: of got nicked right in the beginning with their top corner, 914 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: so that you know, so you yeah, that that kind 915 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: of accentuated the fact that they needed to stay fast 916 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 1: and they didn't have enough fast guys at the end. 917 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: But you're right on the money. I think, get get 918 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: some splash play guys on the defensive side of pass 919 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: rush in a corner and get a wide out that 920 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: maybe adds a little spice to the group they've got. 921 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: I'm not really interested in an alpha guy. You know, 922 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: good players make you better. But they got to replace 923 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and they got to find a guy for 924 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: mac Hollins, so if not one of those guys, So yeah, yeah, 925 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: I think you're right on. 926 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 2: Hill walked his comments at the end of the season 927 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 2: back a week later, so I think he knows he's 928 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 2: side to Miami and he's probably not going anywhere. All 929 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: those stranger things have happened, So he was just frustrated 930 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: at the end of the season because it was the 931 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 2: first year in his career where he did not go 932 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: to the playoffs. So I think he was just a 933 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 2: little hot under the collar, said some things he probably 934 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: regrets saying, and walked back his comments and basically said 935 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 2: they just need more dogs on that Dolphins roster and 936 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 2: that's kind of where he left him. So I don't 937 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: really expect him to get moved necessarily, but the Dolphins 938 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,959 Speaker 2: do have some salary cap issues to figure out. Let's 939 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 2: go to Ryan in Toronto next. 940 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 12: What's up Ryan, Hey, Chris, Steve, Happy Monday, guys. I 941 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 12: want to talk about any you guys just mentioned about 942 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 12: you need a speed white c was separation guide. Why 943 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 12: did we trade for Coleman and gave up by jav 944 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 12: Worthy to Casey? That I don't understand. Secondly, we could 945 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 12: have had Jefferson for when we came away for Cato, 946 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 12: that pick for Minnesota for Diggs. There's two picks that 947 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 12: we could be in a different situation. I don't know 948 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 12: why Brandon Bean that's not like picking. Why wasn't the 949 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 12: first time he had never done that. Secondly, you guys 950 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 12: talking about pass rushers, I don't think I mean have 951 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 12: draft capital to get pass rushers. I mean, look at 952 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 12: the draft picks we have. We have first child, which 953 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 12: is on the bottom to it. Yet second two second 954 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 12: rounds also on the bottom. It's got what We're not 955 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 12: going to have any draft cap. 956 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 13: But we do. 957 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 12: You either have to pick a wide receivers with a 958 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 12: separation or a pass rusher. League, guys, you cannot go 959 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 12: both ways and traded Hill. Forget it. It's out of 960 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 12: the question. There's no point of bringing trade a Hill. 961 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 12: He's the cast in the locker room. He just we 962 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 12: saw that in Miami. You don't want that guy in 963 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 12: our locker room Mike my suggestions. 964 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, thanks Ryan. I think what you're doing, though, Ryan, 965 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 2: when you're talking about these draft picks, is you're doing 966 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 2: them with full knowledge of what those picks became when 967 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 2: those when those moves were made by Brandon Bean, he 968 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 2: knew what he was acquiring in Stefan Diggs and only 969 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 2: knew the draft capital he was giving up to suggest that, Hey, 970 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: by the way, Justin Jefferson would be available at pick 971 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: twenty one. Are you sure you still want to get 972 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 2: rid of that pick. There's no knowledge of that when 973 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 2: that trade is made. And look, that was a trade 974 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 2: that worked out for both teams, and there's nothing wrong 975 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: with that. And then I mean, it's not like the 976 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 2: Bills got short changed. They got four seasons of one 977 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 2: hundred catch football from Stefan Dak. Stefon Diggs was massive 978 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 2: for the Bills. Yeah, and so Josh, to me, that 979 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: was a win win for both clubs. I don't know 980 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 2: how you get around to knocking that with respect to, 981 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: you know, their draft capital now, Yeah, Worthy and Coleman, 982 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 2: it's the same thing. He's not making. What a lot 983 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 2: of fans misunderstand is they see it through the lens 984 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: of helping the Chiefs, and Brandon Bean sees it through 985 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 2: the lens of this is what's best for the Bills. 986 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 2: He has no iota of an idea what receiver they're 987 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 2: going to take, you know, at pick whatever that was 988 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 2: twenty six or twenty five. I can't even remember. They're 989 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 2: more focused on what they feel is gonna fall to 990 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 2: them if they move back. And then they moved back again. 991 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 2: They moved back twice, don't forget. So, I mean they 992 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 2: had their reasons for doing that. They feel they got 993 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: the player they felt could help the Bills the most. 994 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 2: And the only reason Worthy was so good in year 995 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 2: one for the Chiefs was because he had to step 996 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 2: into a number one receiver role because they lose Hollywood 997 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: Brown at the beginning of the season or she Rice 998 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 2: in Week six. For the rest of the season, they 999 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: didn't have anybody else to lean on. He got the 1000 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: most snaps, far more time on the field than Keon 1001 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 2: Coleman did, who missed three games. So, I mean, you 1002 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 2: can slice it whatever way you want, but that's how 1003 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 2: things played out. And look, don't judge Keon Coleman on 1004 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 2: one season. Let's see what he turns into gotta take 1005 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: a break here, We're at the top of the hour. 1006 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: More of your phone calls an hour number two here 1007 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:52,919 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. 1008 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: This One Bills Live, presented by Calllida Health. 1009 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 2: All right now number two on a Monday, Chris Brown 1010 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 2: steve to ask me with you talking to all Things 1011 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 2: Bills here and asking you today what does your big 1012 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 2: picture take on where the Bills are following their twenty 1013 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: twenty four season. Also talking a little bit of Miles Garrett, who, 1014 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 2: in case you haven't heard, has asked the Browns to 1015 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: be and it's a little easier said than done with 1016 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 2: the financial financial particulars involved, but happy to discuss that 1017 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 2: with you. Kicking off our number two fred In Webster, 1018 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 2: what's up, Fred. 1019 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 14: Thanks for taking the call. Sure, Yeah, just a couple 1020 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 14: of things. I'm with you, Chris on this, Uh, you know, 1021 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 14: being tired. I'm very tired of seeing the Bills being 1022 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 14: the NFL's guinea pig on these rules changes. I mean, yeah, 1023 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 14: come on, you know, let's let's get real. I'm I'm 1024 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 14: I'm not even planning to watch the Super Bowl. As 1025 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 14: far as I'm ansered, they should put a huge asterisk 1026 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 14: before the game. You know, but anyway, as far as 1027 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 14: the Miles Gear, as far as the team goes, uh, 1028 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 14: you got your core coaches are there. I would do 1029 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 14: my darnedness to keep the team as core as possible. 1030 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 14: I know that that's not always possible, but you can 1031 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 14: do it with you know, if you if you're if 1032 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 14: you use your your intellect in your mind, you can 1033 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 14: you can keep a core of people together. As far 1034 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 14: as Miles Garrett, I'd go for him heart. I would 1035 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 14: go for him Hart because he's the guy you're looking for. 1036 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 14: He is the guy that you were looking for the 1037 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 14: hands down. Now, the fact that they did a deal 1038 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 14: with Amari Cooper might help you with dealing with Cleveland, 1039 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 14: you know, but I would do that. I go hard 1040 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 14: for him. Just I want to hear your your thoughts 1041 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 14: on it. And if you think I'm on the ball or. 1042 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 2: Not, thanks, Yeah, thanks Fred. It's easier said than done. 1043 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 2: The idea is wonderful. I think we would all love 1044 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 2: to see it happen. I mean, I know the term 1045 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,479 Speaker 2: generational talent gets thrown around way too often, but he's 1046 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 2: one of those, like you want an a list pass rusher, 1047 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 2: which I think we can all agree. The Bills probably 1048 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 2: need to add to their roster between now and next season. 1049 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 2: This guy fills the bill unquestionably. The problem is on 1050 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: Cleveland's side of the ledger. If they move him off 1051 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: their roster, there is a thirty six million dollar dead 1052 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 2: cap hit. The Browns are already number two in the 1053 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 2: league with dead cap money already on their cap for 1054 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five thirty nine million. It's the second highest 1055 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 2: dead cap figure in the league for twenty twenty five. 1056 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 2: They're going to double that if they move Garrett off 1057 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: their roster. Now, could they probably do a renegotiation like 1058 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 2: we saw them do with a Mari Cooper. If you 1059 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 2: remember back in the summer last year, the Browns were 1060 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 2: in the hunt to try to land Brandon Ayuk in 1061 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 2: a trade with the San Francisco forty nine ers when 1062 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 2: he was holding out in training camp. And what did 1063 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 2: they do to try to facilitate a trade. They reworked 1064 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper's contract to make the cap hit more palatable 1065 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 2: for both them and for the team to whom he 1066 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 2: would go San Francisco in such a trade, because they 1067 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 2: were gonna send Cooper to San Francisco in exchange for 1068 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 2: Aux they'd probably have to send more to San Francisco 1069 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 2: in addition to that, and then the trade didn't go through. 1070 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 2: So now here's Amari Cooper, an affordable asset, and the 1071 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 2: Bears and the Bills wisely scooped him up before the 1072 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 2: trade deadline to add him to their roster. Yes, having 1073 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 2: done business with a team before, sure it could grease 1074 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 2: the wheels a little bit, but there are some financial 1075 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 2: hurdles to clear here, unquestionably for the Browns. 1076 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the finances are always the thing that's going to 1077 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: get in the way. It's it's you know, that'll even 1078 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 1: get in the way from if the Browns trade Miles 1079 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 1: garrettt as he is and his contract is, it's thirty 1080 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,919 Speaker 1: six million dead So if you even throw in another 1081 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: player to go back now that it's they got thirty 1082 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: six million dead money, and then they pay whatever, Like say, 1083 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: if you give them a guy that you just signed 1084 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: an extension to, even if it's a medium extension, like 1085 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: for ten million a year, that's forty six million off 1086 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 1: their cap, you know, And so it's because it's thirty 1087 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: six and dead money and ten million that they're gonna pay. 1088 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: So you're you're talking a really difficult economics problem to work. 1089 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 2: Out, mainly for the Browns. 1090 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the Browns. So that's got to be in 1091 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: the mix. Now, certainly you can say, okay, if you 1092 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: can talk to Miles Garrett's people, sign him to a deal. 1093 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: You can agree to sign him to a deal after 1094 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: we trade him, or we'll sign him to the deal 1095 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: and then trade him to you and do a sign 1096 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: and trade which which will alleviate our cap over like 1097 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: two years. Okay, we'll talk about it, but that's you know, 1098 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff's got to happen. 1099 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 2: But that other team would have to have input as 1100 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 2: to what that contract would look like because they're inheriting it. Yeah. 1101 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a big conversation you gotta have. 1102 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 2: And sign and trade is difficult too, because you're still 1103 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 2: gonna incur dead cap. So I don't know if that's 1104 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 2: really feasible. 1105 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: Right. It's really a complicated thing because he's making so 1106 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: much money right now with two years left on his deal. 1107 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: You're in You're a guy in the middle of his 1108 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: second contract and he was a Defensive Player of the Year, 1109 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: so he's he's killing it contract wise, and even though 1110 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: it's at this point it's two years under fifty million 1111 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: bucks for both years together, it's like twenty five million 1112 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: a year. That's which is pretty good for a guy 1113 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: like him, guy his caliber. But you still got to, 1114 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, the Browns push money down the road. That'll 1115 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: all come back right now if they trade him. 1116 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: And they already have done that to a great degree. 1117 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 2: They did it with the Amari Cooper contract. They've done 1118 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: it with the Deshaun Watson contract, which, oh, by the way, 1119 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 2: he still has ninety two million and change guaranteed left 1120 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: on it that they have to pay out for that. 1121 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 2: So they have a lot of financial They have a 1122 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 2: financial quagmire, to be quite honest with you, and cleaning 1123 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 2: that up by moving Garrett off their roster actually makes 1124 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 2: it worse. So I'm very curious, even if they begin 1125 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 2: to entertain such a prospect, how they would fiscally make 1126 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 2: that work to their benefit. I don't know that they can. 1127 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: I would think what they're doing right now is sitting 1128 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 1: down and looking at the numbers, cold, hard, cold and hard. 1129 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 1: If we're gonna do this deal, here's what we're gonna 1130 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: have to have. We're gonna have to have financial you know, 1131 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to relieve us of the financial burden. 1132 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna have to make sense on our cap and 1133 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to get you know, some draft capital back. 1134 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: But the finances are job one. 1135 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Mark in Jersey City next. What's 1136 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 2: up Mark? 1137 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:35,919 Speaker 7: How you doing? 1138 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 12: Gentlemen? 1139 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. I the Miles Garrett thing 1140 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 7: is a content driver. I don't think it has much 1141 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 7: substance to it from the bills standpoint. I mean, it's sexy, 1142 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 7: but that's about it. They have holes all over that defense. 1143 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 7: I mean that you hinted at something in the bills 1144 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 7: by the numbers CB. It's kind of a hard reality. 1145 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,439 Speaker 7: They have to start planning for life with beyond Taron 1146 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 7: Johnson like, teams started to go at him a little bit, 1147 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 7: and he's banged up a lot, a little bit harder 1148 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 7: for him to keep up. It was very noticeable this year. 1149 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 7: Taylor Rapp throws his body around injured a lot. Not 1150 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 7: the most fleet afoot. I don't think he's a lock 1151 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 7: to be a starter next year either. Got to do 1152 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 7: things with Bernard, with Benford, and you know, there's some 1153 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 7: guys that have been here a long time that just 1154 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 7: don't show up in these games, and they played in 1155 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 7: a lot of playoff games a j Atanessa at Oliver Rousseau. 1156 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 7: So yeah, I think there's a lot of work to 1157 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 7: do on defense, but I'm very optimistic. I think some 1158 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 7: pieces are there, and offensively, I think the guys are 1159 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 7: in house. I think they just got to get more 1160 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 7: out of the concaids Samuel Coleman's and that's all I have. 1161 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call, guys, all right, thank you. 1162 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 2: Very much, appreciate it. 1163 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: I think with us kind of the page we're on 1164 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: as we as we sift through this conversation about where 1165 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: the Bills are in the big picture. While they had 1166 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: a lot of question marks on dec they're gonna have 1167 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: that many question marks this offseason. The thing that got 1168 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: them through and got them even further into the playoffs 1169 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: this year was their ability to get turnovers. That solved 1170 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: and covered up a lot of problems. And I think 1171 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: they've got to upgrade the athleticism in their secondary I think, 1172 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: and certainly you're never gonna have enough of a pass rush, 1173 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: but they need a more consistent and dominant pass rush, 1174 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: at least in certain games where if you're going into 1175 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: a game where the other team has a couple of 1176 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: backups in particularly at tackling on the edges, you got 1177 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: to be able to take advantage of that, and the 1178 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Bills didn't do that often enough. And I think that's 1179 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: where kind of everybody's sitting. You're gonna have They had 1180 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: a lot of question marks, a lot of turnover last 1181 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: year in the offseason. I think that's going to continue 1182 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: this year because they're gonna have to revamp a lot 1183 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: of spots on it. That's just us talking and our fans, 1184 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of reactionary from what happened 1185 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: late in the year, But I think that's where a 1186 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: lot of people are sitting. The offense was record setting, 1187 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: and so by comparison, that's obviously where you're going to 1188 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: start thinking about fixing a finger quotes fixing this roster 1189 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: is on the other side of the ball. 1190 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move along, And who's up next year? It's 1191 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 2: Ron in Virginia. What's up? 1192 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: Ron? 1193 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 5: Hey, Chris A, Steve, thanks for taking my call. Just 1194 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 5: a couple of things if you don't mind real quick. One, 1195 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,959 Speaker 5: I would like to see Amari Cooper be signed long term. Two, 1196 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 5: this is kind of stupid, but can von Miller us 1197 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 5: his presence to get Miles Gary here? But every time 1198 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 5: he said somebody was coming, that really didn't work out. 1199 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:47,959 Speaker 5: Number three, I've heard somewhere where a lot of high 1200 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 5: profile athletes don't like to come to Buffalo because it's 1201 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 5: cold out. But I think Buffalo is a what a 1202 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 5: wonderful place to go. I think everybody should come to 1203 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 5: Buffalo because, I mean, why not make a name for yourself. 1204 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 5: And lastly, again thanks for taking time out. You guys 1205 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 5: have said something last week where you were saying that 1206 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 5: Buffalo should have, you know, played harder and you know 1207 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 5: we should have not kind of if I may make excuses, 1208 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 5: but to me, I think it needs to be put 1209 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 5: out there that these refs. You know a lot of 1210 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,439 Speaker 5: people don't want to talk about it, but the refs 1211 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 5: did show blatant favoritism. I mean, like you were saying 1212 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 5: that that Josh Allen got that first down and to me, 1213 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 5: that was not a catch. Who knows that those would 1214 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 5: have made that difference in the game, but I do 1215 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 5: believe that that was crazy and those toush pushes that 1216 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 5: we did kind of you know, hey, we should have 1217 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 5: done something else and Lastly, but not lastly, I think 1218 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 5: that we should get a high profile player. I'm thinking maybe, 1219 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 5: you know, why not match up a mar with Tyreek 1220 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 5: or something. 1221 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 12: You know. 1222 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, but thank you very much for your 1223 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 5: tom and I'd love to hear you all his opinions. 1224 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,919 Speaker 2: Thank you, yep, thanks, Ron, appreciate the call a lot 1225 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 2: in there. I don't anticipate Von being a recruiter. 1226 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: He could be, I mean, he could give If Miles 1227 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Garrett reached out to him, Vaughn would probably give him 1228 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,919 Speaker 1: a pretty good a pretty good report on what it's 1229 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 1: like to play here. Yeah, and I think Miles is here. 1230 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't know where VN is. You know what I mean? 1231 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Well, VN, Yeah, right, you know what I'm saying. Sure, 1232 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean Vaughn wouldn't have good things to 1233 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: say about his time here, whether he whether he's trying 1234 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 1: to recruit him or not. Just beside the point, he 1235 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: probably will probably be pretty positive about what happened to 1236 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: him here in Buffalo. We did how they handled him. 1237 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 2: We didn't say that the Bills weren't playing hard. The 1238 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 2: effort was unquestionably there. What we were saying is they 1239 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 2: had to execute a little bit better. That was our 1240 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 2: prevailing thought last week, just to make that clear. 1241 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Rut And yeah, and I don't know, you act like 1242 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: we hadn't been talking about the first down spot on 1243 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: the touch push and we were talking and the catch 1244 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: by Worthy there was not a catch. Yeah, we were 1245 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: about that as well. And I say this, Buffalo, I 1246 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 1: think with this coaching staff and the reputation they have 1247 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: had around the league, I don't think players have a 1248 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: problem coming to Buffalo at all these days. The reputation 1249 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff and the culture they have here, 1250 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 1: and of course the winning games was always the trump card. Yeah, players, 1251 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has any issue coming to Buffalo 1252 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: to play football. 1253 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 2: So let's move along here and we go to Tim 1254 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 2: down in Texas. What do you got first, Tim? 1255 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 4: Hey, good morning guys, Well, good afternoon. I guess well, 1256 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 4: I'm thinking like, how do we get so like our 1257 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 4: legendary in the nineties was just amazing? How do we 1258 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 4: get those like a team like that? 1259 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 15: Again? 1260 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 2: Difficult because the way of doing business has changed. I 1261 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 2: mean that team was put together before real free agency. 1262 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 2: You had Plan B free agency back then. But the 1263 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 2: player movement that you see in the league nowadays in 1264 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 2: the offseason was non existent. That that's how Steve's teams 1265 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 2: were able to still keep twenty two players twenty two 1266 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 2: right for all four Super Bowl squads. You don't have 1267 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 2: a snowballs chance in hell of seeing in that nowadays. 1268 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 2: So keeping rosters intact and largely the same year over 1269 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 2: year is harder than ever because of the current free 1270 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 2: agent system, which back then did not exist, right. 1271 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 1: And it's also part of the reason why that team 1272 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: was unique a little bit like this one, where the 1273 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: guys are so close knit and they kind of hang 1274 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: out away from the game and they get to know 1275 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: each other's families and stuff. We were the core group 1276 01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 1: there that twenty two guys that were talking about that 1277 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: were with all four, plus some others who were with 1278 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 1: three of the four and two of the four and 1279 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 1: were there a couple of years before they went to 1280 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 1: any Super Bowls and hung in there through a couple 1281 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: of them. You're together a long time because nobody's moving. 1282 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: As long as you're good enough to make the team, 1283 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna be there. You're not gonna be playing for 1284 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 1: anybody else. And that's part of that is part of 1285 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: the reason the continuity became what it was for that team, 1286 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: and continuity and helps it helped build that culture organically 1287 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott has done so deliberately. That's an important 1288 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: ingredient for every great team, and it happened for that 1289 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: nineties team organically because we were together for so long. And 1290 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, I walked in the room in eighty six, 1291 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: eighty six, it's like, you know, eight years before the 1292 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 1: fourth Super Bowl. I mean it's a long so eight 1293 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: years before the fourth Super Bowl. I walked in and 1294 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 1: there were three Hall of Famers in the room that 1295 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: nobody knew four and I'm sorry I have Hall of 1296 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Famers in the room. There was Jim Bruce and Andre 1297 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: and Marv and Bill Polian. All those guys were in 1298 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: the room my first time I walked in. That makes 1299 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: a difference. And those guys were still there at the 1300 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: end of it. So that's a lot of continuity. And 1301 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, they sprinkled in Thurman Thomas Hall of Fame, 1302 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Cornelie has been at Hall of Fame, should be and 1303 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: James Lofton came in, gave him four good years and 1304 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: was in the Hall of Fame. So uh, that's you know, 1305 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 1: it's it was a different atmosphere, like Brownie said, So 1306 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 1: you know that and McDermott and I think that's why 1307 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 1: he and I'll say it again, that's his gift. He 1308 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: has accelerated that process. He does it every year to 1309 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 1: put this team kind of in the spot where that 1310 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: nineties team took six years to get to or four 1311 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 1: years or five years to get to. He does it 1312 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: in five or six weeks or six months. And that's 1313 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,760 Speaker 1: I think that's impressive, and that's why he's that's why 1314 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 1: this team is so close to being like that team 1315 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 1: in the nineties. 1316 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 2: Let's go to Dave in Tanawanda next. What's up, Dave? 1317 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 15: A right, good afternoon. I just want to make a 1318 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 15: short comment and I'll listen for your response. Miles Garrett, No, 1319 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 15: I don't think he'd be a good pick up for 1320 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 15: number one. I don't know how he's going to bounce 1321 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 15: with the salary cap number two. 1322 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 12: He does have a. 1323 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 15: Penalty issue, and I bring back from Mason Rudolph took 1324 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 15: his helmet and beat him with it situation. And I 1325 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 15: think the secondary needs more work than the defensive line. 1326 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 15: Thank you, and I'll hang up and listen. 1327 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Dave, thanks for the call. Look, Garratt did have 1328 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 2: that one incident, there's no denying it where he blew 1329 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 2: his stack and started swinging his helmet around or took 1330 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph's helmet off and started swinging it around like 1331 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 2: a weapon. I think is how it went. 1332 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Served. 1333 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 2: His suspension hasn't had an issue since. So make of 1334 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 2: it what you will. If that's why you want to 1335 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 2: write him off, that's your opinion. You're entitled to it. Yeah, 1336 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 2: that hasn't been his prevailing history. 1337 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 1: It's it's it's something you're. 1338 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 2: Not a multiple offender, I guess is my point right. 1339 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 1: It's something you want to check on and keep and 1340 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: make sure that you're not, you know, getting a guy 1341 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: like that. If you are, You're right, you might want 1342 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 1: to shy away from it. But for me, and I 1343 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,759 Speaker 1: say this all the time, the acid test is you 1344 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: you ask players, I mean, he just call them, say 1345 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 1: what what do your guys say about what kind of 1346 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: guy Miles is? Is he a great guy? What's what's 1347 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: he like? 1348 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 6: You know? 1349 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 1: And you go and you go back to when you 1350 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 1: if you've had any interaction with him, like pre draft 1351 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, what do guys what do his teammates say 1352 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 1: about him. That's the acid test, you know, the Pittsburgh 1353 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: incident on Monday night, a side you find out who 1354 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 1: the guy, who the real guy is and if there 1355 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 1: are red flags. Yeah, okay, you you listen to him, 1356 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 1: but you got to check that out even at this point. 1357 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would argue that the Bills need a 1358 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 2: a mere pass rusher up front every bit as much 1359 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 2: as they need to improve the athleticism and overall speed 1360 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 2: of their secondary. 1361 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 1: So you, Dave, you. 1362 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 2: Can argue one over the other, but I think both 1363 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,480 Speaker 2: the need to be addressed. I think that goes without saying. 1364 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: You're right, though, Dave, you're You can you can think 1365 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 1: that's more important than than the D line. That's your 1366 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: prerogative as well. I get that, and that you can 1367 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:30,640 Speaker 1: certainly that's debatable who's right. But I'll say this, and 1368 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,680 Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit, and Brownie, you 1369 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: can see what you think about this. Yeah, you want 1370 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 1: you go into the off season thinking, okay, we got 1371 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: to upgrade, say the speed in our secondary, or get 1372 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 1: a corner, whatever you want. Or you can go and 1373 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 1: say we also want to get a better pass rush. 1374 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 1: We want to get one of those difference makers on it. Well, 1375 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 1: here's the thing. You go down that road and you're 1376 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 1: checking out both of them. You're looking out This isn't 1377 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,520 Speaker 1: just about Miles Garrett. It's also about like, for instance, 1378 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: trading for a guy like Trent McDuffie, a Chiefs guy, 1379 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,679 Speaker 1: or another corner in Lattimore or you know, go down 1380 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 1: the list. So it's one of those guys as well. Right, 1381 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 1: So you can say you want to do all this, 1382 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: but you gotta have another team to say yes. You 1383 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: gotta have the draft capital, you gotta be able to 1384 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 1: make a deal, and they may there may be no takers. 1385 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: So you go to the draft or you go to 1386 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: free agency and say, okay, we're gonna we're not gonna 1387 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: get Max Crosby, We're not gonna get Miles Garrett, We're 1388 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: not gonna get Trey Hendrickson as a pass rusher. We're 1389 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 1: not gonna get Trent McDuffie or Marshawn Lattimore or any 1390 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 1: of these other guys at corner. So now what do 1391 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,000 Speaker 1: we do. We're gonna see who's available in free So 1392 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: you go with the opportunities. Now, there may be a 1393 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,719 Speaker 1: couple of guys in free agency, particularly like it's safety 1394 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 1: or maybe in the defensive backfield. Those guys may be like, hey, 1395 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: we can get those guys in free agency. Those guys 1396 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 1: are upgrades athletically and they're gonna fit under our cap. 1397 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,879 Speaker 1: Those are the opportunities that the Bills can take advantage 1398 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: of that they can control. None of this other stuff 1399 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: is None of this other stuff is in a vacuum 1400 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 1: like that. So you start the off season and you 1401 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 1: gotta go with the op opportunities that are there. Not 1402 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: every guy is available to the Buffalo Bills, just it's 1403 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,680 Speaker 1: not that easy. It's not reality. So you go and 1404 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: you start looking at your opportunities where you can upgrade, 1405 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: and you start from there and you go it doesn't Yes, 1406 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 1: they would love to have one of those difference makers 1407 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 1: on the edge, one of those proven NFL quality game wreckers. Well, 1408 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: welcome to the club. There're thirty one other teams that 1409 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 1: feel the same way, right, So there are reasons why 1410 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: you can or reasons why you can't. So if they can, 1411 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: they will. If they can't, they got to do with 1412 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 1: what they got, and they got to pursue other places 1413 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,719 Speaker 1: on their roster where they can get better and hope 1414 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: that that masks the fact that they don't have a 1415 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 1: game wrecker when the season kicks. 1416 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 2: Off, break time for us here, but when we come back, 1417 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 2: more of your phone calls, Bill and Old Forge, Carl 1418 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 2: and Depew will lead us off when we return here. 1419 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 2: On one Bill's Live presented by Kill Out of Health, 1420 01:13:53,680 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What is your big picture take 1421 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 2: on where the Bills are following the twenty twenty four season. 1422 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 2: Taking your phone call todayto three zero five fifty one 1423 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty got some 1424 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,160 Speaker 2: open lines for you there, But we continue with Bill 1425 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 2: in Old Forge. What's up Bill? 1426 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, Yeah, I don't want Miles Garrett either. And 1427 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,639 Speaker 3: my reason is this. What's worse than him even swinging 1428 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 3: the helmet and Mason Rudolph's head was the aftermath when 1429 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 3: he pretty much said he did it just to try 1430 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 3: to get out of a suspension. He said that he 1431 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 3: did it because Mason Rudolph supposedly called him a racial 1432 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 3: slur and that's why he did it. And I remember thinking, 1433 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 3: you know what, man, you can't get any low character 1434 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 3: than that. Putting this other guy, Mason Ruff's reputation on 1435 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 3: the line trying to stain him just to get out 1436 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 3: of a suspension, and I felt bat for Rudolph'rea had 1437 01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 3: to go up through the podium defend himself saying I 1438 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 3: never said anything remotely close to that. He had a 1439 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 3: couple offensive linemen they had to go up there and 1440 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,640 Speaker 3: defund him and say, we never heard anything. Obviously he 1441 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 3: didn't hear anything. And from what I remember, I don't 1442 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 3: remember Miles Garrett I ever apologized in Rudolph for doing 1443 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 3: that to him. And I don't want that guy on 1444 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 3: my team. That's a little character. I don't want him 1445 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 3: on the team. 1446 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, all right, title to your opinion, Bill, 1447 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 2: So say what you will. I mean, you're entitled to that. 1448 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 2: And look, I think Miles Garret would probably even say 1449 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 2: he probably didn't handle that all that Well, what was 1450 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 2: that five years ago? 1451 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Now? 1452 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 2: Is a while back, wasn't it? 1453 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Yes? It was his Uh, it was his first year, 1454 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 1: wasn't it? 1455 01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 2: Was it that far long ago? 1456 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Maybe? 1457 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was five years ago. He's an eight year veteran, 1458 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 2: so yeah, early in his career. Yeah, hopefully he's wise 1459 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 2: enough now to know the difference between what is acceptable 1460 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 2: and what isn't and you know there hasn't been anything 1461 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 2: since then. 1462 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to hear what the Cleveland media has 1463 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: to say about what kind of guy he is, how 1464 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 1: he is to deal with. 1465 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 2: It would be something that any team would obviously investigate 1466 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 2: and vet. So let's go to carl in Depew. What's up, Carl, 1467 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:06,679 Speaker 2: How you doing? 1468 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 13: Guys? 1469 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:07,599 Speaker 1: Good? 1470 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 13: Season's over and now, uh it's time to build. And 1471 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 13: you know, I think we don't need to even spend 1472 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,800 Speaker 13: a nickel on offense. I think I think we need 1473 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,439 Speaker 13: to spend in defense. And those gentlemen that don't like 1474 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 13: Miles Garrett because he swung his helmet, uh, I don't 1475 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 13: know about that, but I cheer like him. I cheer 1476 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 13: like him on the defensive line. I cheer like him. 1477 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 13: And what a and with a crossby maybe a crossby 1478 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 13: on the other outside. They have to spend their money 1479 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,720 Speaker 13: on defense, and you know it starts up there in 1480 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 13: the trenches. And once you you put the pressure on 1481 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 13: all the other positions that falls into place. They don't 1482 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 13: have to be as quick. You don't have to be 1483 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 13: as fast if you've got the pressure and you got 1484 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,599 Speaker 13: the studs up front. Uh, yeah, we need corners. Yeah, 1485 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 13: we need some help. Uh maybe a good linebacker like 1486 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 13: the kid Ohio State, somebody like that. Oh yeah, But 1487 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 13: I mean I don't think we need to spend much 1488 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,679 Speaker 13: money on offense. I think we got all the parts 1489 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 13: in place there. I think Bean's gonna have to work 1490 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 13: his magic. If he's gonna have to wind up, we're 1491 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,680 Speaker 13: gonna have to get it a tackle like Garrett and 1492 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 13: like Crosby or both. I don't know if we got 1493 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 13: the money to do something of that nature, but I 1494 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 13: mean if you did, I mean, it would put us 1495 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 13: in a way better position than we were in at 1496 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 13: the end of this year. That's about all I got 1497 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 13: to say. Guys, tell me what you think. 1498 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks Carl. I don't think there's any 1499 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,120 Speaker 2: way you're getting Max Crosby and Miles Garrett. 1500 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,439 Speaker 1: That would be sure. That would be at the level of. 1501 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,719 Speaker 2: Some kind of military coup in a third world country. 1502 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 2: If you pulled that off, I mean, that is like 1503 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 2: Holy Cow, and fiscally if you could pull it off, 1504 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 2: even more remarkable. 1505 01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:57,000 Speaker 1: But I get it. 1506 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 2: Get one would make a big difference. And he's right 1507 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 2: about but you know, you have a premier pass rusher 1508 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 2: up front. Everybody on the back ends job. Everybody on 1509 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 2: the back ends job gets a whole lot easier because 1510 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 2: now you're covering for three and a half seconds instead 1511 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 2: of five and six seconds. 1512 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It solves a lot of problems every 1513 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 1: place else when you've got consistent and quick pressure all 1514 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: the time. And that's what Miles Garrett and even the 1515 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 1: crew that they've got signed would give you. So you're right, 1516 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 1: and you're right too. We've been talking about it all day. 1517 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 1: I think you've got to focus on the defensive side 1518 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,599 Speaker 1: of the ball. Even with Mac Hollins and Amari Cooper 1519 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 1: not under contract, the guys that are still left standing 1520 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,720 Speaker 1: over there, you got to feel pretty good about. It's 1521 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,839 Speaker 1: a record setting year for the offense, and the offensive 1522 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,719 Speaker 1: line is signed, sealed and delivered for next year. Plus 1523 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,599 Speaker 1: you know, they got Vander Mark's back, they got Tyland 1524 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,719 Speaker 1: Grayball is healthy, so they're going to be and Alec 1525 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,679 Speaker 1: Anderson the whole crew. 1526 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,360 Speaker 2: They have young depth behind the starters who are all. 1527 01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: And also young, experienced depth, you know, with some contuity 1528 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: in this system. So it's yeah, the defensive side is 1529 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 1: the one with an enormous amount of question marks and 1530 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,679 Speaker 1: at this time of year, it's always fun to say, Okay, 1531 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 1: how big could we shoot if everything went our way? 1532 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: And it starts with the reigning defensive Player of the year. 1533 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 2: Your big picture take on where the Bills are after 1534 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,920 Speaker 2: this twenty four season. We're going to pivot over to 1535 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 2: the tweet sheet, which is brought to you by Cory 1536 01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 2: and Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the 1537 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Clark leads us off and says, it feels 1538 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 2: like we're right where we have always been, a few 1539 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 2: plays away from advancing. Need a few more contributors, parentheses, 1540 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 2: free agency, and for young guys on the roster to 1541 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,720 Speaker 2: take the next step in their game. Coleman Kincaid Bishop, Yeah, 1542 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 2: there is an interesting young corps from the last couple 1543 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 2: of draft classes that if they take a step forward, 1544 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,599 Speaker 2: And as we've said many times before on this show, 1545 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 2: this is one of the best player development staffs the 1546 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 2: Bills have had, probably since the Levy days. With his staff, 1547 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,919 Speaker 2: they make guys better. Guys get better here, they ascend 1548 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,680 Speaker 2: into bigger and better contributors for this football team just 1549 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 2: by the way the daily operation works here. So that's 1550 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,719 Speaker 2: always a positive. So if you can get more from 1551 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:22,679 Speaker 2: those guys, and being in his personnel department can augment 1552 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 2: the quality of the roster in certain areas. Yeah, you might. 1553 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 2: You might make those few more plays. You need to 1554 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,679 Speaker 2: get over the hump. 1555 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm You're right where we've been talking about, and 1556 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,640 Speaker 1: it's They've got a lot of guys that's going to 1557 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 1: be fun to see him develop if they can. You'd 1558 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,599 Speaker 1: like to see Kincaid's try and stay healthy for the 1559 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: entire year and see where that takes you. Certainly this 1560 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 1: year it was a little bit of unique six system system, 1561 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 1: a unique way of doing things because of the everybody 1562 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 1: eats mentality, and they were rotating guys through there, and 1563 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, Curtis Samuel was in and 1564 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,080 Speaker 1: out of lineup with injury all the way through the season. 1565 01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper arrived halfway through the season, Keon Coleman was 1566 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,720 Speaker 1: out of the lineup because of injuries in and out, 1567 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 1: and plus he was just kind of working his way 1568 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: in early in the season as a rookie. All of 1569 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,679 Speaker 1: that stuff was in the mix, and then they started 1570 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 1: including big time the running game and the running backs 1571 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,720 Speaker 1: in the passing game. So it was a lot of 1572 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,680 Speaker 1: stuff going on in this offense. And then even in 1573 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 1: the midst of it, they were scoring a ton of points, 1574 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, set a franchise record for points, and so 1575 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,400 Speaker 1: they had a lot going on. But now it looks 1576 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 1: like they're gonna they're gonna be fewer guys getting more 1577 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:40,800 Speaker 1: opportunities coming up, just until the the rosters filled out. 1578 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't count on mc collins being here. 1579 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 1: You can't count on Amari Cooper being here in any way, 1580 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 1: shape or form. So it falls on Shakir and Kinkaid 1581 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: in that room, and Coleman and Coleman, So it's. 1582 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 2: And Samuel who's still under contract that. 1583 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,120 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta think that that those guys are 1584 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 1: going to get a lot more play until something says 1585 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 1: they're not. 1586 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,639 Speaker 2: Dennis on the tweets sheet says they are right there 1587 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,600 Speaker 2: in contention. Need more depth at linebacker and corner and 1588 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 2: a speedstereid wide receiver, but they are a contender. Jacob says, 1589 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 2: lots of needs. I love the idea of signing a 1590 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,760 Speaker 2: very good corner to start opposite Benford, then use the 1591 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 2: draft to fill defensive end, defensive tackle, cornerback depth, safety, 1592 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,679 Speaker 2: wide receiver, deficits I ranked those in order of need. 1593 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 2: So Jacob sees some holes that he'd like to see 1594 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,759 Speaker 2: them fill. He's prioritizing a starting caliber corner. 1595 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got four defensive positions listed above the 1596 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver as well, in order of priority. So I 1597 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, I'm not nobody over here is going, 1598 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we got to fix the offense. But yeah, 1599 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 1: you know you it's going to be interesting to see 1600 01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 1: what happens in free agency coming up in a month. 1601 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 2: Or says the offense needs a speed receiver and the 1602 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 2: defense needs an edge rusher and a number two corner. 1603 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 2: Andrew says on Miles Garrett specifically, maybe trade a first 1604 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,879 Speaker 2: in a second and either Dawson Knox or Dalton Kincaid 1605 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,680 Speaker 2: to Cleveland for Garrett. As much as I would love 1606 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 2: to see this trade happen or a similar trade like 1607 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,879 Speaker 2: this happen, I just don't see being making a trade. 1608 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,720 Speaker 2: Because he said don't expect anything big this offseason. He 1609 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,679 Speaker 2: also said that the year he acquired Von. 1610 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 1: Miller, I know, yeah, but yeah, things change. 1611 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what's coming down the pike. And 1612 01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,640 Speaker 2: he probably didn't know last week that Miles Garrett was 1613 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 2: gonna request a trade when he gave it a season 1614 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 2: ending press conference. 1615 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 1: Right, So it's yeah, things are always changed in the league, 1616 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see, particularly at this time 1617 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,719 Speaker 1: of year. And it's gonna get very it's gonna change 1618 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 1: even further just up to and including free agency, and 1619 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 1: just before free agency, just after there's gonna be guys 1620 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 1: signing contracts and yeah, plus there's going to be releases 1621 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: and the whole thing. It's never say never, but yeah, 1622 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to make happen. We've been talking 1623 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,599 Speaker 1: about it. The economics of a moving Miles Garrett off 1624 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 1: the Browns is enormous, So it starts there and right 1625 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 1: out of the gate, it disqualifies probably some teams. 1626 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 2: David says, Bills have a few ways to improve. One 1627 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 2: internal development, two small free agent contracts, three high price 1628 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 2: free agents, four draft. The Bills have a lot of depth, 1629 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 2: so internal development is key. Being assigned manageable one year contracts. 1630 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 2: We should sign one or two good free agents and 1631 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 2: look for two draftees and I think what he means 1632 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 2: by that is two draft e's to come in and 1633 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 2: help us right away. Yeah, it takes all of that David. 1634 01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people get hooked on what 1635 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 2: can be done in the draft. Some other people get 1636 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 2: hooked on what can be done in free agency, and 1637 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 2: other people are obsessed with trading for somebody like a 1638 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,519 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. But the truth is, it's all of those 1639 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 2: avenues that a general manager in this league has to 1640 01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:13,680 Speaker 2: pursue because you can't just slice it one way to 1641 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,680 Speaker 2: improve your roster. Yes, a trade for Miles Garrett but 1642 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 2: help enormously, But that's not the only thing you would 1643 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,719 Speaker 2: do in one off season. You would find other ways 1644 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 2: to supplement your roster, and you have to use any 1645 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 2: and all avenues to do that, and a good GM 1646 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 2: usually does so right. And that's what Bean has done 1647 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 2: largely since he has been here. He spends a lot 1648 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 2: of time working free agency, a lot longer than a 1649 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 2: lot of other teams. He doesn't just dive in the 1650 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 2: first two weeks of free agency. He's still scooping up 1651 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 2: people in May and June. 1652 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's I think this is going to be a 1653 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 1: really interesting offseason for the Bills. I mean, the draft 1654 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,799 Speaker 1: may be a little bit ho hummed because they're picking thirtieth, 1655 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 1: and I think they do have some extra picks, and 1656 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to wait and see how the compensatory 1657 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 1: picks fall. But they're gonna get a bunch of guys, 1658 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 1: and I think the free agent market will tell us 1659 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 1: a lot about where their priorities are and how their 1660 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: draft is gonna go. Like I said, like we all know, 1661 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you just have to look at the numbers. 1662 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be a defensive minded off season for 1663 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:18,439 Speaker 1: this team. 1664 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back. Final segment, 1665 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 2: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet about where you 1666 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 2: feel the Bills are following this twenty twenty four season 1667 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:39,680 Speaker 2: that's coming up next year on One Bill's Live Statum. 1668 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,640 Speaker 2: All right, final second here on a Monday edition of 1669 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,080 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and 1670 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 2: we're trying to assess, you know, where this Bill's team 1671 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 2: sits after this twenty twenty four season. So thanks for 1672 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 2: all the calls and input, including from the tweet sheet 1673 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:58,439 Speaker 2: where Gary says one good roster and good coaching need 1674 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 2: to step it up in critical situation to need two 1675 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,920 Speaker 2: to four additional game changers on the roster wide receiver 1676 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:09,799 Speaker 2: and at least two on defense. Three more self belief 1677 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 2: appeared to me. Kansas City believed they were going to win. 1678 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 2: I didn't see it from the Bills. It's an interesting observation. 1679 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 1: Okay, uh yeah, there's no question that plays a part 1680 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 1: in every team, you know, your belief in yourself and 1681 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 1: your confidence going into a game. Certainly, it's hard to 1682 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,720 Speaker 1: look like that on the road in Kansas City, and 1683 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 1: it's a hard place to go in and play. The 1684 01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,040 Speaker 1: Bills know it as well as anybody. They play as 1685 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 1: well there as anybody, though, And I think that's that's 1686 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 1: one of the things you're gonna you're gonna hear a 1687 01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: lot of this preseason and you know off season is 1688 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, the Bills need to play better and try 1689 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,760 Speaker 1: and get home field. I mean, they're they're caliber of 1690 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 1: team that can think about that. If you look at 1691 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 1: their schedule for next year, though, the home schedule is 1692 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 1: a gauntlet. It's rough, really rough, not so much the 1693 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 1: roads at least, you know, transposing this year's NFL teams 1694 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 1: on next year's schedule, you can make that assumption. The 1695 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: Bills have got a lot of first place teams coming 1696 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 1: in here to Buffalo to play in the nine home 1697 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 1: games they have the eight games on the road. Eh, 1698 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,479 Speaker 1: they're okay. They got a chance to doing well on 1699 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,400 Speaker 1: the road next year, but you need home field advantage 1700 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 1: to give yourself that bye week, an extra week of 1701 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: preparation and rest as well as home field. So there's 1702 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of that going around this season 1703 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,080 Speaker 1: about not just the roster that's gonna be refurbished, but 1704 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 1: also things they can do during the next season to 1705 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:40,639 Speaker 1: help themselves. 1706 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,200 Speaker 2: And as for you know, the Miles Garrett thing, this 1707 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 2: is something that's I would anticipate it's gonna take several 1708 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 2: weeks going into the offseason here. It'll probably reach a 1709 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 2: resolution around combine time, maybe right before the start of 1710 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,400 Speaker 2: free agency, because that's when teams need to know, Hey, 1711 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,439 Speaker 2: do I have that guy that I'm committing all this 1712 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 2: money to or is it something else? And where I'm 1713 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 2: gonna have to go in a. 1714 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 1: Different gentrifications changed drastically. If it gets past the draft, 1715 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:08,719 Speaker 1: that's it for us today. 1716 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,799 Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow for a one o'clock edition On Tuesday, 1717 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 2: we'll have Chris Moore and Matt Miller from ESPN. We'll 1718 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 2: see you that