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Speaker 1: Welcome to Orchard, Part New York, snowy Orchard, Part New York.

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Speaker 1: At the Newer Field right next door to us. You

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Speaker 1: you do day like today? You appreciate a nice comfortable place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a heck of a show, we really do. We got

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Speaker 1: a short week because because of the holiday, Steve and

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Speaker 1: a moment from now from practice. He'll be live at

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network will join us. He was there covering

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Speaker 1: last night's wild game in Los Angeles for the NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Their second consecutive practice day with another one coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: look like that all of a sudden, we're watching arena

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Speaker 1: football and I'm not looking for that. Seriously, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. But and here's the thing. You always project.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. You want to project what

435
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Speaker 1: if you want your team to be good, if you

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Speaker 1: want them to look like that. Yeah, if you want

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Speaker 1: if you want to push for the playoffs, if you

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Speaker 1: want to be in the conversation, if you want to

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Speaker 1: be consistently winning, and you got to look like that,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're hoping your team looks like you want

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Speaker 1: them to look like that. On offense, you don't want

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Speaker 1: your defense to be out there letting receivers run open

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Speaker 1: all over the field. Now, I get your point. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna make your point. We'll talk about this game about

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Speaker 1: defensive scores and sacks and pressures and takeaways. That's extremely

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00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: valid and very good point. But there's also receivers running

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Speaker 1: free all over the field. You don't want to see

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Speaker 1: your team being that defense. Yeah, I agree. And here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, though, if you know it's it's obvious, you

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Speaker 1: can't have offenses like this unless your defenses are hamstrung

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Speaker 1: or just aren't good enough to compete. And these defenses

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Speaker 1: are populated, particularly the RAMS defense. The RAMS defenses is

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Speaker 1: populated with as many high profile athletes who've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of success in the league as you can get.

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Speaker 1: We've got as many stars on defense. That's right, there's

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Speaker 1: star studded defense. And they just coughed up fifty one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now they also chipped in two scores, right, and now

458
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs also did that as well, So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the way. That's what you're looking at. A defense

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Speaker 1: that doesn't maybe may not be able to stop anybody,

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Speaker 1: but every so often chips in a touchdown or field

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Speaker 1: position or something like that gets the ball back. It's

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Speaker 1: about getting after the passer and turnovers. So that's the

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Speaker 1: yang for the yang of the offense. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have all these offenses running all over the

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Speaker 1: joint and scoring fifty points on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 1: both both teams, your defenses are gonna look like that.

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Speaker 1: I stayed up to midnight watch the game at extreme

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Speaker 1: personal hardship, but that's okay, it was worth that. I'm

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Speaker 1: not complaining when I turned off the TV and I'm

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Speaker 1: walking up stairs, and I think the one guy i'd

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Speaker 1: really like to hear his thoughts on this game. Guess

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Speaker 1: who it was, Wade Wade Phillips. Defense gave up fifty

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Speaker 1: one points and they won. So he'd probably be of

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Speaker 1: a mind to say, well, yeah, you know, we scored

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Speaker 1: a couple of point, we scored a couple of test

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Speaker 1: downds ourselves now. But but I would like to know

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Speaker 1: what he thinks about this. You know, is he okay

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Speaker 1: with his defense given up big plays too obviously supremely

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Speaker 1: talented Kansas City offense? Is he okay with that? Does

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Speaker 1: he think that's the future of the NFL. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear what Wade thinks about that game. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: can find it somewhere. The next thing too, I think too,

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Speaker 1: he's probably saying, listen, if that's the way it's gonna be, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me you know, I'll call my defense isn't and

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Speaker 1: then I'll coaching them up. Yeah, all coach him up

487
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Speaker 1: as best you can, you know, And if if the

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Speaker 1: if the new standard is holding them under forty or

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Speaker 1: one hundred, hold them under thirty five Okay, that's the standard.

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. But but it's different. It's different, it's different,

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Speaker 1: and it's and it's gonna take some getting used to.

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Speaker 1: But I think guys like Wade who've been around, you know,

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Speaker 1: these defensive corners who've been around forever, I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty hard to you know, they know. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's what's gonna be. That's that's a good defense there

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Speaker 1: that gets that gives up fifty but get you two touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and amazing. That's what it is. Talk more about that

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Speaker 1: game coming up with our guests Omar Ruiz of the

499
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Speaker 1: NFL Network in a moment. Here's a uniquely Buffalo thing, Steve.

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Speaker 1: You can walk around Buffalo today and just walk up

501
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: to a stranger or a friend and say, what do

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Speaker 1: you think of that game last night? And if you're

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, New York, you're thinking, does he mean overtime? Baby?

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Speaker 1: It was a great game. And I know you're chopping

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Speaker 1: at the video. Only in Buffalo. Could you say to

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Speaker 1: somebody today what do you think of that game? And

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00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: they might start talking about a hockey game talking about this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the instigators. Yeah, I mean, that's you're right. I mean

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Speaker 1: I watched it. Um, I watched the last seven and

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Speaker 1: a half minute. I watched it, and it was it

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Speaker 1: was fun. I mean, here's the thing. I watched it. Um,

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Speaker 1: they went up and then we tied it up. He says,

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Speaker 1: then they then they so and then I went over

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Speaker 1: and watched the game. The start of the game football football,

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Speaker 1: and it was for one and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'll just I'm gonna leave it

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Speaker 1: because when I start watching it starts going bad. So

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Speaker 1: I leave the game. I leave the hockey game, and

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Speaker 1: I come back and then it was three four, so

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Speaker 1: I okay, that's now I'm gonna start watching again. And

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Speaker 1: you know, then everything happened that that happened. We get

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Speaker 1: into overtime and and win it, and I came off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I watched the last couch man. I was punching the air.

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Speaker 1: I watched the last seven or eight minutes as soon

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Speaker 1: as I got home last night, about nine thirty or so.

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Speaker 1: And it got hard at the end there because there

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Speaker 1: was big plays happening on Monday night football and big

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Speaker 1: plays happening in the hockey game. And I don't have

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Speaker 1: picture in pictures, so I don't have two screens like

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Speaker 1: some of our staffers, right, doesn't JJ have like a

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Speaker 1: three ski screen set up. Millennials all know how to

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Speaker 1: do that. Yeah I don't. I'm likeli flicking back and

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Speaker 1: forth and and and using the rewind. Oh I missed

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Speaker 1: the goal, I gotta go back. Oh I missed a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go back. I was sweating. That's how hard

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Speaker 1: I was working trying to watch both games last night.

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Speaker 1: It was. That's how vigorous it was in my house.

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Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was something. And it The

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Speaker 1: fact too, was we got a break too because the

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Speaker 1: hockey game was on the East coast and the football

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Speaker 1: game was on the West coast. So it started lays

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Speaker 1: only eight o'clock Monday night football kick and the game

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Speaker 1: started at seven, So we had an hour of free

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Speaker 1: time before, you know, and I didn't I didn't need

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Speaker 1: to read the you know, I didn't listen to the

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Speaker 1: pregame shows for the football. But so that gave us

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Speaker 1: a chance to catch, you know, feel like we could

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Speaker 1: catch most of the game after the hockey game was over,

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Speaker 1: and then the game football game went till midnight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's nutsy, because I was up for it because

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00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: I knew it was it was turning into something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it was great. It was unbelievable. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: more about the football game. Steve might have more to

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Speaker 1: say about the hockey game. Are you good? Did you

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00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: get all your hockey stuff out? You're going tomorrow night?

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Speaker 1: Not tomorrow night, Friday night? Oh? I thought you're going Wednesday, Friday,

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Speaker 1: Montreal Friday, Montreil. That'll be great good. Yeah, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving weekend. So I got peeps coming in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we got more to talk about. So do you

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Speaker 1: phone lines open? Eight oh three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk more about last night's game, talk more about

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, about Josh Allen, and when we returned,

564
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Speaker 1: we'll be talking with Omar Ruiz of the NFL Network

565
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Speaker 1: about all of these issues. Maybe not hockey, maybe hockey.

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Speaker 1: I don't. One goes live from One Goes Drive and

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio. One goes live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steave Tasker in cold, snowy Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: New York, and we are on the subway fresh Stake

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Speaker 1: hotline right now to nice warm Los Angeles, California. Joining

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Speaker 1: us on the subway Freshtake Hotline. NFL Network reporter anchor

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Speaker 1: who was there last night in Los Angeles into Colisseum

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Speaker 1: for the Rams and the Chiefs Classic. He's been with

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network since twenty twelve. Happy to have Amar

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Speaker 1: Ruiss on the line with us, almar John Murphy and

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. Hey, no problem,

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Speaker 1: fells good. Good to be with you, and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. I'm still running on adrenaline from last night.

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Speaker 1: What a day, what an evening. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: could have asked for a better script to what's been

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Speaker 1: one of the more hype regular season games we've seen

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Speaker 1: in reef in memory in the NFL, and it certainly

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Speaker 1: lived up to it. Do you think it's gonna transcend

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Speaker 1: just the one game? Do you think it's gonna carry

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Speaker 1: some momentum forward in the league and the philosophies and

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Speaker 1: where the league heads. Do you think the league's gonna

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Speaker 1: make decisions in the future based on what happened in

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Speaker 1: this game? That kind of thing, I would think. So.

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Speaker 1: I think what you have seen the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years with all the rules changes and really limiting what

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Speaker 1: defensive players can do from a physicality standpoint. Last night's

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Speaker 1: game with the culmination of all that, and I think

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Speaker 1: that was the blueprint, and everybody talking about the offensive fireworks,

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Speaker 1: and it seems not only the entire sports world was

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Speaker 1: focused on that game last night, but it was making

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Speaker 1: the news, networks and just everywhere. Everyone was talking about

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Speaker 1: that game because of the offensive fireworks. So I think

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, had had this vision and it

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Speaker 1: came to fruition last night. Omar, have you or is

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Speaker 1: anybody seen television ratings yet for that game last night? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think I saw the overnights for ESPN was about

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Speaker 1: thirteen million or so, maybe eleven million, the highest rated

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Speaker 1: show that ESPN's had since the National Championship Football game,

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Speaker 1: and I think the highest rated Monday night game since

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys Redskins came back in twenty fourteen, So certainly

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Speaker 1: significant numbers. A lot of people paying attention to that game,

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Speaker 1: much more so than they have in recent years anyway,

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Speaker 1: because we're trying to figure out is this what people want?

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Speaker 1: And you know, if the ratings are up, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that's what they want. You said. It was a game

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Speaker 1: that was heavily hyped going into it, so it was

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Speaker 1: probably destined to have good ratings. I wonder if that's

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Speaker 1: what people want, those kind of you know, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and five points and a thousand yards of offense, that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. What do you think? I'm curious too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone was talking about it because

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Speaker 1: it was different last night. Obviously, we've never seen a

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Speaker 1: game where two teams scored fifty plus and one hundred

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Speaker 1: and five points and thousand yards and all of that.

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Speaker 1: It was different. Now, if this becomes the norm, is

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Speaker 1: that going to be something that the NFL fan will

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Speaker 1: have an appetite for. I think the league would be optimistic,

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Speaker 1: like offense and shootouts and all that. Well. I found

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Speaker 1: interesting about the ratings, and you guys kind of living

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Speaker 1: back east might have a better idea about it. It

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Speaker 1: was a lot of the outside LA and Kansas city markets.

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Speaker 1: I think the highest rated city was New Orleans, and

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Speaker 1: then it was a lot of Western you know, Denver, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: San Diego, Phoenix. You know, for perhaps a lot of

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Speaker 1: folks in BED. I would have thought that a game

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Speaker 1: like that, especially with such high scoring early in that

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Speaker 1: game might have kept people up later than usual. It

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Speaker 1: didn't seem to be the case last night, but certainly exciting. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: that game, and it was exciting. It was a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun to watch the fact that, you know, no

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Speaker 1: matter how much time was left. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams got the ball back with less than two

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Speaker 1: minutes to go, and the Chiefs had three timeouts, and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs ended up having a chance to come back

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Speaker 1: and get it tied or even win it again, even

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Speaker 1: inside two minutes. So the flip side of this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be one I want to ask you about what

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Speaker 1: would have happened had you know it looked like the

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Speaker 1: Rams might get trounsed, have their defense not gotten a

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Speaker 1: couple of turnover touchdowns, that kind of thing. What happens

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Speaker 1: when these games go the wrong way and it ends

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Speaker 1: up being seventy two to ten or sixty three to nothing,

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Speaker 1: you know that's gonna be just as bad. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think if these offenses continue to evolve, it in the

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Speaker 1: premium keeps being placed on the quarterbacks and sort of

651
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Speaker 1: the ease of which these offenses operate, you certainly can

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Speaker 1: see blowout skull like that, and obviously nobody would want

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Speaker 1: to see that in the league. But I think the

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Speaker 1: point you're making also emphasizes how important turnovers are because

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Speaker 1: as defenses continue to struggle these prolific offenses, because you

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Speaker 1: look at all the playmakers on the field, Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: and Domickin Sue and Justin Houston and its star playmakers defensively,

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Speaker 1: and they still can't really stop people. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: came down to turnovers and the plays that they made

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Speaker 1: from that standpoint, but as far as the traditional you know,

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Speaker 1: three and out and putting a foot down and making

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Speaker 1: stops when he had to, were starting to see less

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Speaker 1: and less of that as teams. And we're with by

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Speaker 1: the way, Omar Ruise of NFL Network. He was there

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Speaker 1: covering the Rams Chiefs game last night, and that point,

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Speaker 1: Omar brings up a question Steve and I brought up

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Speaker 1: with Steve a minute ago. I wonder what Wade Phillips

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Speaker 1: thinks of that game, What Bob Sutton thinks of that game?

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Speaker 1: The defensive coordinators, both of whose defenses made big plays

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Speaker 1: and came up with scoring plays. But I wonder what

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Speaker 1: they think overall, like they think of themselves. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: better start looking at retirement packages here or something. You know. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, both both defensive coordinators would would

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Speaker 1: you know, be shaking their heads that if they walked

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Speaker 1: off the field. As a matter of fact, I walked

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Speaker 1: up by Bob Sutton and his face looked expressionless as

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Speaker 1: he left the field. Uh, you know, giving up fifty

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Speaker 1: four points like that, and and then Wade Phillips in

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Speaker 1: the way in giving up fifty one. I think talking

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Speaker 1: to some defensive coaches for the Rams yesterday, they just

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Speaker 1: surreal that they could give up fifty one points and

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Speaker 1: win the game. So I think, and you know this, Steve,

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Speaker 1: when you win, kind of masks a lot of awards

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Speaker 1: that you may have. And so I think that was

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Speaker 1: a sort of attitude and listening to Wait Phillips talk

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Speaker 1: going into this game, given that the Seattle Seahawks had

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Speaker 1: ran down them for two hundred and seventy three yards

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Speaker 1: the week before, just talking about doing what they have

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Speaker 1: to do to win the game, and whether that's a

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Speaker 1: three and out in crucial situation, whether it's forcing a fumble,

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Speaker 1: returning in for a touchdown, just making enough place to win.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what they're focused on yeah today.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, o'maron. I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: come down to a new normal where a defense, a

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Speaker 1: good defense, is one that gets a lot of turnovers,

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Speaker 1: or bats a lot of passes down, or does some

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Speaker 1: things that have been taken as just kind of an

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Speaker 1: afterthought in years past. Or are they gonna come to

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Speaker 1: the forefront and we're gonna see defenses a lot differently.

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Speaker 1: Let alone evaluate defenses statistically a lot differently. I think

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Speaker 1: you're right. I think it is going to come down to,

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Speaker 1: you know, playmakers, maybe ballhawks in the secondary, Guys like

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald that not only can get the sack, but

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Speaker 1: take the ball away from the quarterback. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: linebackers that can punch the ball out of running backs

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Speaker 1: when they're in traffic there in the trenches. Guys who

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Speaker 1: are going to be able to get the ball for

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Speaker 1: you because obviously it didn't look like guys were slowing down.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it on offense, the way

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Speaker 1: they're they're doing these jet suites and really trying to

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Speaker 1: utilize sideline the sideline. You're seeing these faster linebackers that

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Speaker 1: can get sideline the sideline and make those plays on

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Speaker 1: the edges, but maybe aren't stout enough up the middle

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Speaker 1: to stop the ball, you know, when they start running

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Speaker 1: the football. Not that we saw much of that last night,

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Speaker 1: but just overall, big picture, another reason why these offenses

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Speaker 1: continue to put up big yards the way they have Kilmur,

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Speaker 1: Where do you think last night's game the rest of

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Speaker 1: us in the NFL? And I guess in particular, you

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Speaker 1: know our focus of Buffalo Bills, that the lowest scoring

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL so far this year, what do

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Speaker 1: the rest of us do with that game? Do you

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Speaker 1: think you got to get a quarterback? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think being there in training camp, I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of optimism for the Bills depending on what they

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Speaker 1: got from the quarterback. And I think you look at

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Speaker 1: their losses this year, I think the touchdown interception ratio

728
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Speaker 1: something like two to fifteen, and in their wins it's

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Speaker 1: not nothing prolific. I think maybe three to one. But

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Speaker 1: you could just look at that right there, and you

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Speaker 1: got to have a quarterback that's not gonna lose you games,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think that's where you start. And then

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Speaker 1: of course you got to build and the personnel, and

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Speaker 1: you got to have the schemes and take advantage of

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Speaker 1: the new rules that are limiting the defenses that certainly

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Speaker 1: offenses like the Rams and the Chiefs and the Saints

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Speaker 1: I've taken advantage of to tax you everywhere on the field,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's eventually going to be the new normal.

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Speaker 1: And I think eventually it seems like the Bills and

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Speaker 1: you guys know, it's a topic that league, and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna start trickling down from here on out. One of

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Speaker 1: the things about last night that came up in the

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Speaker 1: run up to the game was that the NFL put

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Speaker 1: a little effort into this game on hand, selecting an

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Speaker 1: officiating crew, and in the early going to that game,

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Speaker 1: it looked like it was going to be a flag fest.

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Speaker 1: But basically, you know, the way they officiated that game

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Speaker 1: in the secondary secondary almost dictated what was going to

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Speaker 1: happen on the scoreboard. I think you're right, and to me,

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Speaker 1: I was upset for some of those early calls, especially

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Speaker 1: that one incompletion that I think it was Nelson for

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00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs forced out. I think it would have been

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00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: a third down, but they called a passenger fears call

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Speaker 1: or defenseless receiver call, and it looked like he had

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Speaker 1: a clean swipe on the ball. It certainly set the tone.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it didn't become a flag fest like it

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00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: looked like that, but it certainly set the tone that

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Speaker 1: the defenses can't really touch the receivers, which which kind

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Speaker 1: of disheartened me. I liked the defense, not that I

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Speaker 1: can appreciate the offense, but you would like to see

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Speaker 1: a little more balanced at least I would anyway, and

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Speaker 1: that sort of one hundred five points later as a

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Speaker 1: result of that. Oh, our last question I have for you,

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Speaker 1: what does that game mean for NFL football in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: You know, the league has only been back for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years now, the coliseum is filled, the game

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Speaker 1: is an instant classic. The fans seem to be enjoying

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Speaker 1: it immensely. Does it have like long lasting implications on

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Speaker 1: the future of pro football NFL football in the nation's

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Speaker 1: largest city. What do you think why? I think it

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Speaker 1: was the first time that the Rams saw a true

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Speaker 1: home field advantage. They've had three times this year, electric

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Speaker 1: atmospheres when the Packers were there, when the Vikings were there,

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Speaker 1: and even during the playoffs last year against the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: There is a buzz. But because the nature of the

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00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: NFL schedule is knowing when your team is going to

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00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: play there, a lot of the fans from Green Bay,

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00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: from Minnesota, they come in there. So it's almost fifty fifty.

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Speaker 1: With the number of fans. Given this game and the

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Speaker 1: short notice nature that Chiefs fans had, there weren't as

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Speaker 1: many of them. So it was a pretty pro ram sprout.

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Speaker 1: And I think anybody who is a part of it

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Speaker 1: would want to have that in the future. And I

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Speaker 1: think when you project that sort of environment into the

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Speaker 1: new stadium that they're building here that will open in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, certainly a lot of optimism for what football,

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Speaker 1: NFL football can be in Los Angeles for years to come.

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Speaker 1: Allmar Duois a favor before we let you go. When

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Speaker 1: you drive over to the coliseum and still if there's

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Speaker 1: still putting up points on the scoreboard right now, that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. It's not a running black, it's a

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Speaker 1: running sport. Talague them Ohmur, thanks for this. Thanks Omar,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We enjoy your work. Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: My release NFL Network reporter anchor has been with the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network for the last six or seven years joining

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Speaker 1: us on the subway fresh take outline presented by Subway

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Speaker 1: Restaurants proud to be locally owned and operating. It was

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Speaker 1: a great show for Los Angeles, as we talked about

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Speaker 1: it earlier too, and the city had been through a

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00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: lot over the last few weeks. I'm sure that helps too,

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00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: Steve and and and the lockdown the future. Not that

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00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: they're right, I mean, they're building that new stadium, it's

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00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: going up. Chargers are part of that too. But there

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00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: are those who, and Omar pointed out, those who thought

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00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: that maybe all these Los Angeles NFL fans are fans

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00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: of other teams who are transplanted to LA. Game like

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Speaker 1: that last night will will embed some RAMS fans in

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Speaker 1: that city. Now. Yeah, history will tell you though that

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Speaker 1: the LA m they're LA fans of football will stay

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Speaker 1: interested in electric about that team as long as that

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Speaker 1: team stays electric and in the midst of it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, LA is not a football town. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a basketball baseball town. And are you sure about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a college the team, the team. They've

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Speaker 1: had two different teams in there over the last fifty years,

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Speaker 1: and both of them left. Now the Rams are back

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00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: and they're going to be in a great facility, but

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00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: it's a town that has trouble hanging in there with

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Speaker 1: a team that is not at the time. Don't play

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Speaker 1: the fans there for the Raiders leaving, do Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's kind of well, I though, but there wasn't

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Speaker 1: their team to begin with, right. Nevertheless, Um, even when

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Speaker 1: the Rams, when the Raiders were there, and they were

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Speaker 1: they kind of took the town over. Um and listen,

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Speaker 1: there was a good reason why the Rams left, you know,

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Speaker 1: they just they do. They weren't supported then. So I

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Speaker 1: think last night, with the exception of last night, Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a community that's gonna embrace that team as many

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Speaker 1: if they can give them games like that all the time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But what I mean, yeah, I think there, I think

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Speaker 1: the standard for all the time, right, I think I

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Speaker 1: think the standard for holding the attention of LA is

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Speaker 1: a lot higher than it is in other places. I

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Speaker 1: think that there and I think, uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think you can't compare the percentage of fans that live

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Speaker 1: and die with the LA Rams in that sent town

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Speaker 1: to the percentage of fans that live and die with

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Speaker 1: the team in Buffalo, or in Green Bay or in

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Speaker 1: you know, Cincinnati, Chicago, or any other cities. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just I think the level of passion for those

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Speaker 1: teams and the level of commitment to stay with those

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Speaker 1: teams through bad times like you've seen here in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I think you can't compare it. I mean, that team,

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Speaker 1: that team would want to leave LA if they went

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Speaker 1: through a drought like Buffalo went through. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: agree with it. Come on, I think the city is

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Speaker 1: big enough before twice, I think the city is big

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Speaker 1: enough to support NFL football there that Los Angeles I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, even with just some you know, with some

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Speaker 1: fair weather fans, I think they can still get by.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I think I think it's so

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Speaker 1: big that they would always have some kind of audience,

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Speaker 1: ye corporate sponsorship, which is really that's true too. You

855
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Speaker 1: got me on that on the on the corporate thing.

856
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you this, as far as fans in

857
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: the stands eat the fair weather fans, even I would,

858
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: And maybe it's it's us back here and we don't,

859
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, we don't anything about LA truly, But it

860
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: seems to me like that's a city and a lot

861
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: like Buffalo and other cities. They have a there's a

862
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: collective mindset. Like you take Philly and the way they

863
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: treat their team. They just got hung I got a

864
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: forty eight to seven thumping at the hands of the

865
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, and that city is not happy with

866
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: their with their team, but they're gonna show up. Yeah,

867
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: same thing in Buffalo. I don't think that happens in LA.

868
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I guess is my point that's that would be an

869
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: instance where to make it. And maybe I'm exaggerating to

870
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: make a point, But still I think the collective mindset

871
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: in a town like la is not like it is

872
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and I think it reflects when their team struggles,

873
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: they won't show up. In Buffalo. If the team struggles,

874
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: people still show up to the stadium. They have about that.

875
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a break. We're back with more.

876
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

877
00:42:51,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show. Jumberfee,

878
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, One Doll's Live from One Bill's Drive. On

879
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: a snowy day in Orchard Park. Happy to have you

880
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: with us here today. We're talking about a lot, including

881
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: last night's Monday a football game, and about this Sunday's

882
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: game right here in Orchard Park, the Bills and the

883
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. On Twitter, we are asking this question. I

884
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: guess it's more of an NFL question than a Bill's question,

885
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: But what did you think of last night's game? Last

886
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: night's Chiefs Rams game may maybe gave us a look

887
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: into the future of the National Football League. Do you

888
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: like where it indicates the league is heading high scoring?

889
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Let's know what you think on Twitter. Fifty eight percent

890
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: of you say yeah, I like it. Forty two percent

891
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: of you say no, no, thanks, give us a call,

892
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: let us know. Eight oh three five fifty total three

893
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Got

894
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: a call on the line here from Tom and West Seneca.

895
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Tom, you're on the air, John Steve, thanks

896
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: for having me. I really appreciate you. You're welcome. The

897
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: game on Sunday with the water Jaguars is clearly winnable

898
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: for us for both three and six, and I've imagined

899
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: that as much as I'm a Josh Allen fan if

900
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: he wants to take another week off, it would be

901
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: okay because I clearly liked the way Berkley played, And

902
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: as far as the future of the NFL the highest scoring,

903
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: I like high scoring, but fifty four to fifty one

904
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: is ridiculous, which brings up the question, what about the

905
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: defenses of these team teams? The Buffalo Bills if I

906
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: can recall held Kansas City to thirty one points and

907
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: the eight team score fifty one points and the coach

908
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: a lot of the for the for La Sean McVeigh,

909
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: the whole for l A. Wade Phillips. Yeah, he is

910
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: nothing like his father at all, that's for sure. And

911
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm an attorney that one time. I'm an eternal optimist

912
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: by nature. I think it would be a tough stump

913
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: for us to win seven games to make the playoffs.

914
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: But it's all yeah, okay, thanks, Then there was a

915
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: lot there. Um, wait is nothing okay, I don't know

916
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: where to begin. Yeah, wait, is nothing like his father.

917
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a lot like his father as a

918
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: matter of fact. Yeah, um, it'll be tough for the

919
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Bills to win seven games and make the playoffs. Yeah, No, kidding,

920
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: would be tough for them to win seven games. I

921
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: think they're seven to nine. They're not getting in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah,

922
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: fifty one to fifty four might be exaggeration. You're right,

923
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: that might be ridiculous. What if this game start going though,

924
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: like thirty five to forty, You know, that's a little

925
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: different because then that would entail some stops by your defense.

926
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I think last night nobody could get a stop. Yeah,

927
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there was seven punts in the game, so

928
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: you think about that, But that was even the times

929
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: when they had to punt, it was like we dropped

930
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: a pass, you know, or we fumbled it away or whatever.

931
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: It was a you know, it was an incompletion when

932
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: we had an open guy. So even the punts came

933
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: about by offensive mistakes, not defensive plays. On the tweet sheet,

934
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: Justin and Weedsport, last night's game was absolutely horrible and

935
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: not exciting to watch. No defense on both sides. To

936
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: be successful in this league, you have to have a

937
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: solid defense. I'm fed up with everybody saying this is

938
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: a passing league. I wish I could go back to

939
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: the way it used to be. Not cool, Okay, I

940
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: don't think it was not exciting to watch. That's ridiculous.

941
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't take my eyes off the screen last night.

942
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't get up and go to the men's room

943
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: at home last night because I didn't want to miss

944
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: what was happening. Next team scores. I think most people

945
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: are watching it thinking, Okay, now let's see what the

946
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: Rams do. The Rams are gonna score, Okay, let's see

947
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs do. It was just like that. It

948
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: was wild. I'm not saying I want every game like that,

949
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: but it was terribly exciting to watch. What else on

950
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: the tweet sheets? On the tweet sheet from Marty Rogers

951
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: saying defense wins championships doesn't apply as it once did,

952
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: largely due to the rule changes. The game is evolving

953
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: to more of a pure speed sport. The trend is

954
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: reducing the physicality of the sport. The combo of different

955
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: athletes and physicality is what makes football so appealing. There's

956
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot in that. I think that's a really good observation,

957
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: because you're right, it is calling for different athletes. The

958
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: guys that are playing in the NFL now could not

959
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: have played in the NFL. I'm talking about the skill

960
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: positions the athletes on the outside now and even in

961
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: the defensive backfield, could not have played football ten years

962
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: before I played. They couldn't have made a team. That's

963
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: the best guys in the league. They couldn't have made

964
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: a football team ten years before I came in the loop.

965
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: They're too small. They're too small, they're not physical enough.

966
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: The guys that you look back at, guys like Mel Blunt,

967
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: the great cornerback for the Steelers, and he's six to

968
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: four and way over two hundred pounds. That's what it

969
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: took to play in the league, because that's what it

970
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: took to stay on the field. You had to be

971
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: that big to be durable enough to stay on the field.

972
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: Now you've got guys running around out there that are

973
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: five ten, five eleven and a buck ninety. That's a

974
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: different game. It's a different sport. You got guys when

975
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: I when we went to the first Super Bowl for

976
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, we had the biggest offensive line in football.

977
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: There were seven guys in the National Football League that

978
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: weighed three hundred pounds or more that were listed in

979
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: the programs three hundred pounds and more in the whole league.

980
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: There were seven guys. We had three of them starting

981
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: on our offensive line. So the league has evolved into

982
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: this place where the offensive linemen are all three hundred

983
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: bills three bills, and the defensive linemen are matching that.

984
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: You guys got guys like in domic Con Sue, and

985
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that Aaron Donald is a three hundred pounder,

986
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: but he's right around there. And I watched Donald before,

987
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: but it kind of just watch him make all those

988
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: plays last night and take a look at him. I

989
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: thought he is not a big big man. I mean, right,

990
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: relatively speaking, He's really not. I look up as right

991
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: comparatively speaking. So the league evolves all the time, and

992
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: it's now getting to spot where you got you know,

993
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill in the nineteen eighties, he wouldn't even have

994
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: been He was a hood ornament on a car. He

995
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: couldn't play running back in the NFL. He wasn't big enough.

996
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: He's just not big, endurable enough. He's a bug on

997
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: a windshield in that league back then. Now guys like

998
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: him are out there and a lot they're around a lot.

999
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: Darren Sproles as a guy like that. He's five six

1000
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: and weighs about two hundred pounds. You got guys that

1001
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: are short and not that heavy, but because they're so

1002
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: fast they can play. The game is evolving away from

1003
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: the physicality that wants it. Now, it's still a physical game,

1004
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: and you can You saw a little bit of it

1005
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: last night, but not very much, but also too And

1006
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: I would invite people if if you can go back

1007
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: in time and watch film of the way the game

1008
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: used to be played, and you watch field level film

1009
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: of NFL film stuff from the seventies. It was it

1010
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: was a half a step removed from a bar fight.

1011
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was that rugged and that no holds barred.

1012
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: You got guy's head slapping each other, you got guy's

1013
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: face mask, you got guys coming in clothesline in the

1014
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: quarterback coming on full speed. I mean, there was no

1015
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: holds barred. I don't think anybody wants to go back

1016
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: to that. But then today you go and look at

1017
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: last night's game and Murph, he said it. If a

1018
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: defender falls down, game over touchdown, that's it. You saw

1019
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: like three times last night where the defenders slipped and

1020
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: fell and got up almost immediately and he's ten yards

1021
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: behind the guy too late. It's done. And that's where

1022
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: that's where they're at right now. I looked it up.

1023
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Downald six one, two hundred eighty pounds maybe two

1024
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: eighty five. He's he's a tremendous player. He's he's not huge,

1025
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: all right, two eighties big. That's not close to two

1026
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: eighties big. He's a big man. Is he a big

1027
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: defensive lineman? I don't believe he's a big defensive line

1028
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: He's not big. All right, we're breaking. Peter King's coming up.

1029
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this issue. Last night's game. What

1030
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: does it mean besides the Rams win by three over

1031
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs coming back with more. One Bill's Life is

1032
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: added by Collata Health. From One Bill's Drive. This is

1033
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, Buffalo Hills Radio Network. Sports Day update

1034
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Ride where the Buffalo Bills are practicing today,

1035
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: a rare Tuesday practice for the team. They'll work out

1036
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: again tomorrow then take Thursday off for Thanksgiving. Looks like

1037
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: cornerback Terren Johnson is in a non contact jersey. Not

1038
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: quite sure what his issue is today. Quarterback Derek Anderson

1039
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: back on the field. Looks like he is participating in

1040
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: the workout. Will get the complete post practice report after

1041
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: practice today should end in about sometime in the next hour.

1042
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: Bill was getting Josh Allen ready to play, and offensive

1043
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: coordinator Brian Dable says he can give a good portion

1044
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo offense to Allen as he gets ready

1045
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday one o'clock.

1046
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: Kickoff on Sunday here at New Airfield, the Bills and

1047
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, a couple of three and seven teams. NFL's

1048
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: game of the Year lived up to the billing last night,

1049
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: highest scoring game in Monday Night football history, third highest

1050
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: scoring game in NFL history. The Rams needed two late

1051
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes interceptions to hold on and beat Kansas City

1052
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: fifty four to fifty one. At the end of week

1053
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: eleven in the NFL. It was an unbelievable game, an

1054
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: unforgettable meeting between two great offensive teams, two rising quarterbacks,

1055
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: and two transcendent teams. The game moved from Los Angeles

1056
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: to Mexico City on just a week's notice. One hundred

1057
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: and five combined points, one thousand and one total yards

1058
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: in the game, and the Rams come out on top

1059
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: by three points. Sam Darnold is jogging and out of

1060
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: his walking boot, but he did not practice with the

1061
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: New York Jets yesterday as they come out of the bye.

1062
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: Darnold's still not certain whether he will be able to

1063
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: play when the Jets take the field again. They play

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Speaker 1: Sunday against the first place Patriots at MetLife Stadium in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. Buffalo Sabers continue their winning ways last night

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Speaker 1: with an overtime win in Pittsburgh. Down four to one,

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00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: the Sabers storing back to win at five four and overtime.

1068
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: Jack Eichel scored the game winner in overtime, his fourth

1069
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: career overtime goal. Buffalo has now won six games in

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00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: a row seven two and one goal games this year.

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Speaker 1: Sabers back in action tomorrow night when they host the

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00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Flyers at key Bank Center. That is the seventh

1073
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: thirty face off coaching changes in the NHL. Ken Hitchcock

1074
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: takes over for Todd McClellan be able to replace him

1075
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: with the Edmonton Oilers, the fourth NHL head coaching firing

1076
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: of the season, in the second in the last twelve hours.

1077
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: The Blues dismissed coach Mike Yoe late Monday night. Last season,

1078
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: there were no head coaching firings during the regular season,

1079
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: first since the original six That's the update from One

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00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio.

1081
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: The Bills out on the practice field on Tuesdays. Right

1082
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: at this time, we have a regular visit with Peter King,

1083
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: longtime NFL rider. He is with NBC Sports and Pro

1084
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Football Talk and he writes the Football Morning in America

1085
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: column for a Pro Football Talk every week. Peters on

1086
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: the Subway, Fresh Take, Hotline, win us. Hello Peter, John

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00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us.

1088
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: What's up, guys? How are you? We're well? And before

1089
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: I forget, I want to wish you and your family

1090
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: are happy Thanksgiving. I'm sure you, like most of us,

1091
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: are really looking forward to some family time later on

1092
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: this week. Name for you, guys. I really am, Thanks

1093
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: so much and I hope you guys have a great day. Yeah,

1094
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: I think we will. We're off for a couple of days. Yeah,

1095
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: we get a couple of days off. That would be fun.

1096
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, Well, everybody, you know the topic of

1097
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: the day, Peter, what do you think the ripple effect

1098
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: or the impression that last night's Rams Chiefs game had

1099
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: on the NFL and the fan bases and maybe the

1100
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: future of the league. Does it? Is it that profound? Steve?

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00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: I think the I think what I would hope really

1102
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: is that when because you look, the season's going on,

1103
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: you're not going to change anything during the season. I

1104
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: would hope that the NFL would have a conversation after

1105
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: the season in which they say, essentially, is this the

1106
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: game that we want? Overall? You know, the three biggest

1107
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: games this year in the regular season in terms of

1108
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, excitement and and all that this year have

1109
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: been U Chiefs and Patriots Mahomes Brady An that was

1110
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: an eighty three point game. Then there was the Rams

1111
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: and the Saints that was an eighty point game. And

1112
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: then the Rams and the Chiefs played last night that

1113
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: was a one hundred and five point game. And I

1114
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: think the NFL has to ask do we want our

1115
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 1: marquee games to be big twelve games? Do we want

1116
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: them to be West Virginia Oklahoma State? Because that's what

1117
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: they're going to be. So that's I think the first

1118
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: question to ask. And again, by the way I frame

1119
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: the question, I think you would probably gather that. I

1120
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: think I would rather not see that. And I don't

1121
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that having one of those once every you know,

1122
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: once or twice or three times a season is fine,

1123
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: but it is going to become the norm because of

1124
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: the way the game is officiated and because of the

1125
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: rules advantages to the offense. And so if that's what

1126
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: it is, then it is. We'll all adapt to it.

1127
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: It will just be a different reality. And you think

1128
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: that the TV networks are going to say anything, No,

1129
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: they're going to say give us more offense. Because last night,

1130
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: year over year, the ESPN rating was up fifty seven

1131
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: percent compared to last year. So ESPN is having a

1132
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: parade in Bristol, Connecticut today. They're they're not going to

1133
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: say anything like, ooh, bring defense back, you know, change

1134
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: the rules so it's more of a fair game. It's

1135
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: not a fair game now, it's an unfair game. But

1136
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: that's the way it is, so everybody's going to have

1137
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: to adjust. My question would be after a game like

1138
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: this that everything about this game seemed to be an exaggeration.

1139
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: Is there a possibility that this game was an experiment

1140
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: by the league office? I mean, they pulled it out

1141
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: of Mexico City for the ostensibly because the field wasn't

1142
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: good enough. They hand picked a group of officials to

1143
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: do this game. They put it on Monday Night Football

1144
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: so they could get more eyes on it. Did they

1145
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: put do everything they could to find out if a

1146
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: game like this or a league like this would fly. Steve,

1147
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: I think you're reaching a little bit. I'll tell you why.

1148
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the game game was scheduled, you know, the

1149
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: game this uh for this day and this time on

1150
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: April eighteen, So no one could know at that time

1151
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes was going to have I think he's

1152
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: got thirty seven touchdown passes right now, So no one

1153
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: could know how how the Chiefs were going to be

1154
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: this explosive offense. You know, I really want to know.

1155
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: I think the officiating crew part of it is interesting,

1156
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know why they did that. I should know,

1157
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I was caught up in doing

1158
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: other things this weekend and I've not made a single

1159
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: phone call to ask about it. Um So, so that

1160
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: that's that's the second part. But and they had to

1161
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: move the game out of Mexico City. I don't think

1162
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: the players are going to take the field last night.

1163
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: If the game were in Mexico City, they heard, they

1164
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: heard about it, they saw it. The NFL risked an

1165
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: incredible embarrassment of players refusing to play a game if

1166
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: they forced them to play on a field that was

1167
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: basically a poor high school field. So, having said all

1168
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: of those things, I think the NFL is interested in

1169
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: seeing how the public reacts to games that are totally

1170
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: totally different from what the public is used to, and

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00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: judging by just early reaction to this, I think the

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00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: NFL is feeling, man, we're getting away with one year. Um,

1173
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna be able to uh make bigger games. Uh.

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: It's funny. The fantasy football league that I'm in, two

1175
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: teams in the league this weekend scored over two hundred

1176
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: and twenty points. And again for people who play fantasy football,

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00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: that's probably not going to be a surprise to you.

1178
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: But you got guys in these games scoring fifty five

1179
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: points and you know, scoring double of what you know

1180
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: normal players would score. So it's a long way of saying, no,

1181
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: the NFL didn't set out to make this experiment, but

1182
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: the NFL is benefiting financially from the game, and what

1183
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: happened here? I'm with Peter King Pro Football Talk, NBC Sports.

1184
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: He writes Football Morning in America. Peter, what is it

1185
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: that makes you think that the last night's game was

1186
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: an unfair game? Who was it unfair too? I mean,

1187
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: it was a competitive game, so it wasn't unfair to

1188
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: the teams. All I'm saying is that the rules right now.

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00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: There was a play in the first half of the

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01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: game where a defensive back was called for hitting a

1191
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: defenseless receiver. And if you watch the replay of the play,

1192
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: I've played it back three or four times. I said,

1193
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: the only way to change this play is the safety

1194
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: to stop, to allow the ball to be caught or

1195
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: dropped by the player and then react. It's not fair.

1196
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: It is not fair to the defense right now. What's

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01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: happening in the NFL. It just isn't. The NFL is

1198
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: trying to say, we're doing everything possible for the health

1199
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: and safety of our players everything, and look, I applaud

1200
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: them for that mostly, but this is a tough game

1201
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: and either you're going to play the game competitively or

1202
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: you're not. And right now, the NFL has set out

1203
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: the rules in this game so that it's fundamentally and

1204
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion, way Field tiltingly unfair to the defense. Peter,

1205
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: And one more question on this game before we move on.

1206
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: What do the rest of us in the NFL do?

1207
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: What do the Buffalo Bills do? You know? Averaging? But

1208
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: this is but this is it's I mean, look, the

1209
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: Bills are at the total other end of the spect yes.

1210
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: Week to week, you have no idea who's going to

1211
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: play quarterback. Two are the quarterbacks you've played this year

1212
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: on your team, who you've sent out there? Got there

1213
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: ten minutes ago, We're handed the uniform in a helmet

1214
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: and said survive. I know that's what they said to

1215
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson and Matt Berkeley. So you can't judge this.

1216
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: This is not every team, it's not every but but

1217
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, the goal is for the Buffalo Bills, for

1218
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: Brian dab All to put out an offense that can

1219
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: maybe not won't play it every week, that can play

1220
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: a game like the Saints or the Rams, you know,

1221
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: or the forty nine ers or the healthy Garoppolo or

1222
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: the Page or you know, there's ten teams right now,

1223
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion that on a given day easily easily

1224
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: could score fifty points and that has to that's got

1225
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 1: to be everybody's goal. But as for what everybody else

1226
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: should do, and that's it's the design right now, so

1227
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: that everybody else is able to do this stuff. Saturday night,

1228
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: I sat in on a on a team meeting with

1229
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: Sean Payton Drew Brees in the New Orleans Saints. Peyton

1230
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: let me sit in. I wrote it in a long

1231
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: column for my Monday Football Morning in America column. And

1232
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: I saw something there that I wrote about that is

1233
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: the darndest thing I've ever seen in my life. In

1234
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: their walkthrough in the hotel ballroom in the French Quarter

1235
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: in New Orleans on Saturday night, Sean Payton barked out

1236
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: a play, a play call, and in this play there

1237
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: were five offensive linemen lined up in this hotel ballroom.

1238
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: There was a bunch four may of three receivers to

1239
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: the left, including Drew Brees, and a bunch for a

1240
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: nation of three receivers to the right, including Taysom Hill,

1241
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. And quite literally, there was not a

1242
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: quarterback or a running back in the backfield. When Max

1243
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: Hunger put his hands on the ball to snap it

1244
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, and I'm just saying, I'm waiting. I'm

1245
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: like my jaws dropping. I said, what, somebody screwed this up.

1246
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: There's no quarterback. But eventually Taysom Hill came in, quickly

1247
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 1: called out the signals, took the snap, and ran the play.

1248
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: My point is, the imagination on offense in so many

1249
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: of these places is totally, absolutely off the charts. You

1250
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: add to that imagination with Sean Payton just thought of

1251
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 1: this play last week. But you add to that imagination

1252
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: that all the rules are to their advantage as well.

1253
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: So I just think right now that I'm not saying

1254
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: all the brain power, there's an awful lot of brain

1255
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: power on offense, and the NFL has set up the

1256
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: rules to favoritey offense consistently. You did spend and we're

1257
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: talking with Peter King of Football Morning in America. Peter,

1258
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about what you learned being

1259
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: embedded with the Saints this past week. You spent considerable

1260
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: amount of time with him, You spent time with Drew

1261
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: Brees Sean Payton, as you just alluded to, even into

1262
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: the walk through the day before the game. What did

1263
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: you learn and what was the most interesting part of

1264
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: your week with the Saints. I think the thing that

1265
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: I learned more than anything else is I learned why

1266
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Drew Brees are so good together. And

1267
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: that is because they they they've been together thirteen years

1268
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: and they trust each other so much that and I

1269
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: know this is going to sound extremely strange, Steve, but

1270
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: Sean Payton takes his play sheet and they have a

1271
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: forty minute meeting, he and Breese and the other quarterback,

1272
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: an offensive quarterback coach, offensive coordinate, and they all sit

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Speaker 1: in there and Breeze goes over each category, each of

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Speaker 1: the eighteen play categories on the sheet, like you know, close,

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Speaker 1: red zone, tight red zone, you know all that, and

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Speaker 1: they go over everything, and Drew Brees gave Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: forty six plays that he liked and he wanted to

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Speaker 1: run the next day. Peyton put a dot on his

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Speaker 1: game plan and he planned to call those if he

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Speaker 1: was in position to. He played to call them all

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Speaker 1: the next day because Peyton likes all the plays on

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Speaker 1: his game plan and he wants he wants to know

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Speaker 1: from Breeze. Okay, Breeze would say, I like this play,

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Speaker 1: and here's why I like it. I think we could

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Speaker 1: take advantage of X, Y and Z and so and

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Speaker 1: and and so. You would think that Sean Payton, with

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Speaker 1: all these accomplished in his NFL career and being this

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Speaker 1: imaginative coach, you would think that Peyton would say, all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: here's what we're doing tomorrow. And he comes in with

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Speaker 1: a game play and hands it to him, said, all right,

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Speaker 1: here's the first fifteen plays we're gonna run. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't do that. He says to Breeze, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to do? And Breeze tells him what he's

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Speaker 1: most comfortable with, and that's what Peyton calls the next day.

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Speaker 1: It's really it's really the coolest thing it is. It's

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Speaker 1: almost like you feel like the employees run the company.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure he wouldn't do that if he's Start

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Speaker 1: and Tasom Hill, you know, yeah, but or even Teddy Bridgewater,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he wouldn't be doing that. But when you

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Speaker 1: have a guy as great as Breeze, who's at the

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Speaker 1: kind of career and who deserves the trust of his

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Speaker 1: head coach, and you see that, it all seems so logical.

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Speaker 1: And that's probably the thing I learned the most Peter

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Speaker 1: King is with us. His column Football Morning in America

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01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: appears every Monday morning. You also write about our buddy Frank,

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01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: Greg Steve and I openly root for Frank. Greg Toy succeed,

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01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: and you kind of indicate there are signs that Frank

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Speaker 1: might be ready to join the the new breed of

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Speaker 1: NFL offensive coaches, obviously helped along by a really good

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Speaker 1: talented quarterback. Huh. Well, I think you know, when I

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Speaker 1: talked to him Sunday night, the one thing Frank Reich

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Speaker 1: was was emotional when I talked to him, because he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, after they were at rock bottom, they were

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Speaker 1: one in five in the middle of October, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they had that game where he went for it on

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Speaker 1: fourth and fourth, he didn't make it, and instead of

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Speaker 1: having a tie game or or or or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: he you know, he ended up losing the game to Houston.

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Speaker 1: Houston's never gonna lose again now, and so, you you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he I think the one thing about Reich

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Speaker 1: is that he truly, truly appreciates where he is and

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Speaker 1: what he's doing in his lot in life, because I

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Speaker 1: think overall he realizes that there's only thirty two of

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Speaker 1: these jobs, and probably only ten of them have year

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Speaker 1: absolute franchise quarterbacks. I got one of those jobs, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's just very grateful. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, I knew this would happen. But I

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Speaker 1: saw what Frank Wright did in Philadelphia last year. I

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Speaker 1: knew him last year. I knew Doug Peterson last year.

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Speaker 1: I knew his value and exactly what he did, and

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Speaker 1: he never met a strange play he didn't like either.

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Speaker 1: As he grows with Andrew Luck and as they grow together,

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Speaker 1: I think without any question he's gonna be there's you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see some of the same type of imaginative stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, look in year one in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and six, Breeze is coming off major shoulder surgery and

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Speaker 1: Peyton is some wet behind the years rookie head coach.

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Speaker 1: So honestly, you know, you don't You wouldn't have seen

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: anything like this in two thousand and six. But now

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01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 1: they've developed to the point where what you want with

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01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: your coach is to last a long time, to hang

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Speaker 1: onto the team, to win enough so that he gets

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Speaker 1: to the point with his quarterback, with his smart smart

1344
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: quarterback like Luck is like Drew Breeses. So you can

1345
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: get to the point where you complete each other's sentences.

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01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,520
Speaker 1: And that's what Frank Reich's goal has to be in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: One last question I've got for it. It has to

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Speaker 1: do with the Bill's matchup this weekend. The Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are coming to Buffalo, and I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about you talk about all these imaginative coaches. Let's talk

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: about Doug Marone. Wow, And yeah, well you get my point. Uh,

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: there's two there's still those in the NFL that you know,

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01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: they're trying to do this by running it and grinding

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01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: it out and playing good defense. Yeah, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: way Doug. And look, I guarantee you if Ben Rossi's

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Speaker 1: from gonna make the comeback of the of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: you know in Jacksonville, I guarantee you that Doug Marrone

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: will be saying, see, you know, we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a running team and that's what we are and

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Speaker 1: all that. And I think that that's the way Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson and Tom Coughlin figure they wanted to play because

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: they don't trust Lake Bortles. However, you know, a funny

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Speaker 1: thing happened on the way to the you know, to

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01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: start the back to the future, and that is that

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01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, they couldn't put enough points on the board

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: to make that work, and and so they're not going

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01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: to be able to come into Buffalo and maybe who knows,

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: maybe they will and run it forty five times and

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01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: just try to just try to play ball, possession football

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Speaker 1: and win. But I don't know what you're gonna see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine there's a more frustrated angry

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL right now than Doug Marrone. Well,

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Speaker 1: that might be his natural state. To you guys would know, Peter,

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Speaker 1: thanks for this. We live in interesting NFL times right now,

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Speaker 1: don't you agree, Very interesting no matter what happens. And look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is the worst thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: Last night was really fun. Yeah, I get it. I

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Speaker 1: get it. I just think that I want to I

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Speaker 1: want a game that is a competitive game on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the ball. And I just think if you've

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Speaker 1: got one of the quarterbacks that gives you a chance.

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01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: When when I say ten teams any week can score

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Speaker 1: fifty I mean even teams like the Detroit Lions. I

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: truly believe that when the circumstances are right, they could

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Speaker 1: score fifty because of Matthew Stafford. Uh and and and look,

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01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: you know the Colts were close to there were one whatever,

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Speaker 1: they were one score away from score fifty. I just think,

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Speaker 1: I just think that having balance in the game, where

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Speaker 1: you're giving both sides an equal chance, is a game

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Speaker 1: that I want to watch. Gotcha, Peter, thanks for this

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Speaker 1: great work. Thank you very much. Thank you, guys, Take

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Speaker 1: Peter King. Pro Football Talk n B SEE Sports have

1393
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: been covering pro football for more than three decades. You

1394
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: can read them every Monday Football Morning in America on

1395
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Talk website. All right, interesting stuff there,

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Speaker 1: I do believe. I just thought, when when listening to Peter,

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01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: we are right now, and maybe just I don't think

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01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: it all happened last night, but last night it was

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Speaker 1: like the culmination of we are in interesting times now

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. We are in transition, it seems in

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01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: the NFL, and maybe a couple of steps down the road,

1402
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more so than any other time, you'll

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: you're getting a glimpse into how the league lets the

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: game evolve, and it has to do with the officiating

1405
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: and what they do, particularly in this case in the secondary,

1406
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: when they let these guys run all over the field

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01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: and you can't put your hands on them. You got it.

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01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep up with them, it really is.

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Speaker 1: And there's not enough guys defensively to do it. Yeah,

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01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: and if and like last night, you saw a couple

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Speaker 1: of times I think it happened at least three times

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Speaker 1: where a defender got tangled up and slipped and it

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Speaker 1: was a touchdown. Yeah, I mean that's the hard ones too,

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Speaker 1: and it was over. And that's that's where the league is.

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: That's where the league can take it's game anywhere it wants.

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Speaker 1: And that's as an illustration of how they do it.

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Speaker 1: They've allowed the game to evolve over the years. Like

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Speaker 1: I just went off and ranted on last segment, but

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01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, they can change the game if they want

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Speaker 1: to and there and you can bet that they're watching

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Speaker 1: very closely the numbers that they think are pertinent, sure,

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Speaker 1: and making some decisions based on it. All. Right, when

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Speaker 1: we come back, the guy who's gonna wave the flag

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Speaker 1: lead the charge. Sunday, Terrence McGhee longtime Bill's defensive back,

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: will join us live on the line. Peter joined us

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Speaker 1: on the Subway Fresh Day copline presented by Subway Restaurants,

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Speaker 1: probably locally owned and operated. Steve Tasker, John Murphy, One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bill's

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. We expect to hear from

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: Terence McGee, longtime Bill's return specialist Corner come into town

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: this weekend for the He'll be the leader of the charge.

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: Bills should be wrapping up practice any minute now and

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: after practice, we expect and hope to hear from Deontay

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01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: Thompson new wide receiver, new old wide receiver is gonna

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01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: join us when practice wraps up. He is one of

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Speaker 1: the additions to the Buffalo offense. They're trying to get faster,

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01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: quite frankly, Steve, as they moved through the final third

1439
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: of the season, trying to get faster with the additions

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01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: of Isaia McKenzie, Robert Foster back in the lineup, and

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: and of course Deontay Thompson. Brian Dable spoke with the

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Speaker 1: media this morning and he was asked about that, what

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01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: does the addition of all the speed mean to your offense?

1444
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: What can you do with that? Here's what Brian Dable

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: had to say. But it's always good to have guys

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: that can run and stretch the defenses. I think, you know, Brandon,

1447
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: Joe and their staff have done a really good job

1448
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: of well it's bringing guys up from the practice squad

1449
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: or bringing guys in off the street, you know, to

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01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: try to fit what we want to try to do. So,

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, anytime, it's a big man, fast man game,

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: So that's always good. Yeah, Brian Davie, And it's kind

1453
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: of obvious what he said, by the big fan fast man.

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01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm really eager to see what they do with this speed.

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01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: You know, what role does Deonte Thompson play? What role

1456
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: does does Robert Foster have an even bigger role than

1457
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: he played last week? Isaiah McKenzie? How many offensive snaps

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01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: can he get? He obviously was pretty good as a

1459
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: return specialist, but what about using him out offense. I

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01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: think they can expand the roles of these guys, Stephen.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing that this week. Let's start

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01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: this week, and I think they're going to try and

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01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:31,480
Speaker 1: do that. I think last night's game is a snapshot

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01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: of where NFL offenses want to be. They want to

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,839
Speaker 1: be fast on the outside, they want to be stretched

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Speaker 1: the field, and that's why I think this is a

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: team that has struggled. You know, you got a guy

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Speaker 1: like Kelvin Benjamin on the outside who's a big, big

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: and he's really big target, but he's not that fast,

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: runs pretty good rounds. But this is a guy that

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Speaker 1: has a catch radius and he's a guy that you

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01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: throw to when he's covered. Nowadays, the league is about

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01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: getting guys in space and throwing him when there's nobody

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: around them and letting them make guys miss as the

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 1: pursuit catches up to them. So they're changing on the

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: fly even as we speak, and they're they're adjusting their

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01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: roster accordingly, and you can bet that they're going to

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01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: start doing some things differently like they did against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I mean that jet off the offense. We saw the

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Speaker 1: Bills run against the Jets with Matt Barkley. Well, let's

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: face it didn't look anything like that what they've been

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01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: running in the month and a half before that, and

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01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: it looked pretty good with a guy who is fresh

1484
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: off the street. So I can imagine that you're going

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 1: to see a lot more of that type of offensive

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01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: philosophy going forward. Although I would not say that the

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01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: Bills are going to respond or have responded to what

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01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: went on last night. I think they had this speed

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01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 1: plan in motion a couple of weeks. Now. Yeah, I

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: will say this though, something happened last night, and we

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01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: were kind of talking about during the break. You get

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: that sense from our conversation with Peter King, with allmar

1493
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: Ruiz a little bit later on something happened last night

1494
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL where everybody's kind of everybody just kind

1495
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: of sat up straight, like, oh, I heard that it

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: was league was, and there it is. It's right in

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: front of us now, right, something happened, I think. So

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01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: I think people got an idea that for the first

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01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: time you saw the league perceived the league is tinkering

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: with the game in such a way that made a

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01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: dramatic difference. So it's almost the point where the league

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01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: in it fels almost like a manufacturer. Oh you want this,

1503
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: but you want it in red. Okay, we'll paint it

1504
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: red here. I mean they gave you, uh, you know

1505
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: what people kind of have asked for this game looked

1506
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: like it was going to be that, and and the

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01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: league put together a supersonic set of officials to make

1508
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: sure the game went like they thought it was gonna go,

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01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: and the team's provided the rest. Yeah, that was weird,

1510
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, I mean the fact that in

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01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: Peter I count I believe that he will get into it.

1512
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: Remember I asked yesterday when when South Palantonio, when he

1513
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: sort of dismissed me when I said, why would they

1514
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: make that move? And He's like, I don't know, Yeah,

1515
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: he's an all star, you know, super Bowl in the

1516
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: middle of the season broke that. But there's a reason

1517
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: why they made that. Officiatingste I think the league has

1518
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 1: a better handle on the knobs and buttons and what

1519
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: the leg game looks like. I think they have a

1520
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: better handle on that than most people would perceive that

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01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 1: they do. I think they think that the players take

1522
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: over on any given Sunday and they just go out

1523
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: and play the game, and the way it happens is

1524
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 1: the way it happens. I think the league has a

1525
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: profound effect on what the game looks like, and I

1526
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 1: think last night is proof of it. It's it's different

1527
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: because only up until last five or six or seven

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01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: ten years maybe did we also get the thing of

1529
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: this in our vernacular about points of emphasis. Yeah, the

1530
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: league puts those things out and things change on the field,

1531
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 1: and that's you know, they're in the kitchen cooking and

1532
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to, you know, bring out a recipe that

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01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: people are going to eat up. And last night people

1534
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: were feasting on that. Let's face it, last night's game.

1535
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: Maybe a look into the future of the NFL. That's

1536
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. Do you like where the league may

1537
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: be headed? Give us a call eight oh three five

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01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: fifty or TLL three one eight eight eight five fifty

1539
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: two five fifty On Twitter. Fifty seven percent of you

1540
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: say yes, you like where the league is headed based

1541
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: on what you saw last night. Forty three percent of

1542
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: you say no, not really. Let's hear from you. Let's

1543
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: get to call here from Andrew in Buffalo. Hello, Andrew,

1544
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hello Andrew and Buffalo.

1545
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: Sorry Andrew. Let's try Rick in Denver, Colorado, Hello, Rick,

1546
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: go ahead. Hey guys. So the NFL is an evolution

1547
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: of offense and defense. It start off air correel basically

1548
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: brought the passing game to the NFL when it was

1549
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: primarily a running game, and then you got the spread.

1550
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: Officers said, basically, require a defense to cover the entire field.

1551
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen is is you're gonna start getting smaller,

1552
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: more athletic linebackers. You're gonna get smaller, quicker defensive ends

1553
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: to put pressure on the quarterback. And then what's gonna

1554
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: happen is is the defenses will eventually catch up up

1555
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: to this pass happy league, and then somebody's going to

1556
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: go back to ground and pound. They're gonna start running

1557
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: the game against these smaller defenders, and it's going to

1558
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: be this constant evolution. And it seems like the offensive

1559
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: are the ones that initiate the evolution and the defense

1560
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: to stop it. And then the offense has to change again.

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01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,440
Speaker 1: But the only thing that seems to change is distribution

1562
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: between pass and run. Yeah, Brick, you make a really

1563
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: good point. I thought about that today too, and light

1564
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: of last night's game. One two things I'd like to

1565
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: bring up. One is the rules changes, as Peter King

1566
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: talked about that that I think does put a disproportionate

1567
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: amount of benefit give a disproportionate benefit to the offensive

1568
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and that may slow down the

1569
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: evolution you talk about. And the second thing is defensive playing.

1570
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: Steven made a great point this morning. We were talking

1571
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: before the show about there's defense to be played, but

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01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: the defense is not you know, a brick wall you

1573
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: can't run against. His defense is now his attack and

1574
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: get the ball ripped the ball out right. Yeah, it's

1575
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: a whole different philosophy. And I get it where you're saying,

1576
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: Rick that you know that the teams are gonna get

1577
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: smaller and faster than Somebody's gonna go out and get

1578
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: a two hundred and fifty pound fullback and go three

1579
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: tight ends and get a big offensive line, and they're

1580
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: just gonna bulldoze people up front because the other team's

1581
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,879
Speaker 1: gonna be built to stop all these high flying offenses,

1582
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have two hundred and sixty pound defensive

1583
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: linemen and they're gonna catch them unprepared for a big,

1584
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: physical offensive line where you can just run the football.

1585
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll happen like that. I think it'll

1586
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: happen slow the league last night, with the being the

1587
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: notable exception, the league goes very slowly in directions and

1588
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: if if people, I don't think it'll change because I

1589
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: don't think people will go backward and say, yeah, I

1590
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: want to see more big running game. You know people

1591
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: won't want to see it, so the league won't allow

1592
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: it to happen. I think what we'll drive it though,

1593
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: is winning. If teams can play better defense and win

1594
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: by running the football. Is the evolution that the caller

1595
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: talked about. If if a team decides that's our ticket

1596
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: to winning, then they'll do it. They won't do regardless

1597
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: of what the TV. Here's why I won't do it. No,

1598
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: and here's why I just here's came to me. Because

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01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna be out there grinding and out. You're still

1600
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a time where you're gonna be ten points

1601
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: down and you're gonna have to throw it to catch up. Yeah. Sure,

1602
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: you're not gonna throw a two hund and fifty pound

1603
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: guy being covered. I mean that's you can't spread the

1604
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: field and get speed then, so your offense is going

1605
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: to be at a detriment anytime you got dropped down

1606
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: by doubles. Talk about balance, teams will want to be balanced.

1607
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: I think offensively maybe if what the caller says it's true,

1608
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: and I think he's onto something about the evolution and

1609
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 1: maybe the back and forth nature of offense versus defense,

1610
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: you would you would benefit by having a balance offense

1611
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: that can do a variety of different things. I think

1612
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: that's probably the here's the thing. You can be balanced,

1613
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: but you're going against a team who's not balanced, who's

1614
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: scoring on every possession, and you got to keep up

1615
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: with him. So you're not gonna gain anything scoring every possession.

1616
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: Those are two I'M high level quarterbacks that maybe that

1617
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: maybe they may not scoring every possession, but my point

1618
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: is you're gonna have to keep up with some and

1619
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe not with others. Yeah, but here's the thing. Your

1620
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: defense is still gonna be hamstrung against that fast offense

1621
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: that you're facing. Your defense is still not gonna be

1622
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: able to say, Okay, we're getting, we're getting we're gonna

1623
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: stop them on sixty percent of their drives today, they're

1624
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: not getting any points. That's not gonna happen anymore. So

1625
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna attack that with a running game, and that's

1626
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: not gonna work. And I think some teams without Patrick Mahomes,

1627
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: without Jared Goff are going to struggle to play that

1628
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: kind of off. It's an interesting point too. Now, if

1629
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 1: it's Patrick Mahomes and all these guys like Jared Goff

1630
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: who was a bus one year and tremendous the next year,

1631
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes who couldn't get on the field with

1632
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: Alex Smith and then came on and was an MVP candidate,

1633
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: is it going to be Johnny six Pack shows up

1634
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: in training camp and now you can get every every

1635
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: kid whoever took a snap in college in the Big

1636
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: twelve is going to come in and starting lightening up

1637
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: the NFL? Is that what's going to happen? Though? I will,

1638
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, it might. We're seeing a lot of

1639
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks coming in and lightening it up. Pretty good

1640
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: talented guys, more talented. How do you know it was

1641
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: a college quarter How do you know it was a

1642
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: really good college. So it's Baker Mayfield. Yeah, he's gonna

1643
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: be good too. So we're all these guys, I mean,

1644
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: come on, they're all gonna be good. Or that's just

1645
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: my point. What have you got like nineteen guys that

1646
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: are lightening it up? Like, you know, like Dan Marino

1647
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four. Once you got nineteen guys and

1648
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 1: ten of them throw for five thousand yards, there's not

1649
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: that many good players. That's what I'm saying. That the

1650
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: bar is gonna drop, So it's gonna become easier to

1651
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: play quarterback because of this news. Real system I don't

1652
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: know about. Nobody can touch their receivers. The windows are big,

1653
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: like they are the Big twelve. You know, a breakcare.

1654
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 1: We're coming back with more. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One

1655
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1656
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: One gul slide from One Bill Drive. John Murphy, Steve Cansker,

1657
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: coming to you on this Tuesday afternoon Thanksgiving week. We

1658
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: got a short week. We will not be on the

1659
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: air Thursday or Friday. This week. We'll survive talking a

1660
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: lot about Sunday's game, the Bills and the Jaguars. And

1661
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: before Sunday's game, be as the Bills take the field,

1662
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: the leader of the Charge. We'll bring him out there

1663
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: waving the flag on that little scaffolding above the tunnel entrance.

1664
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: The Leader of the Charge this week. Former Bills quarterback

1665
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: from two thousand and three through two thousand and twelve.

1666
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, a performer in two thousand and four, a

1667
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: fourth round pick of the Bills in two thousand and

1668
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: three out of Northwestern State. He's on the line with

1669
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: US live right now. Former Bills quarterback Terrence McGee, Terrence

1670
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: John Murphy, and Steve Task are up here in Buffalo.

1671
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: How are you doing down there in Texas today? Kay? Yeah,

1672
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. Appreciate you guys have Yeah, what

1673
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: do you think about being leader of the Charge? You

1674
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: excited about that Sunday? I'm not gonna say me excited

1675
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: like pretty much be a mascot, but but you know

1676
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: it's definitely gonna be uh, you know, fun, you know

1677
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: to come back and you know, get get to watch

1678
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: the game and actually you know, trying to sort of

1679
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: be be on the field. We're not gonna dress you

1680
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: up in a constomer anything, Karence. I don't think. No,

1681
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: they'll give you some swag. Yeah, yeah, you know what

1682
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean. I know that. You know they've already told me,

1683
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, the routine of everything. You know, I've been

1684
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: asked to do this before and I was just don't man,

1685
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: I just feel it, you know, I guess when you

1686
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: be on the field and you're coming out and you're

1687
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: waving the flag. You just kind of just it feels

1688
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: I would think it would feel different. So uh, but

1689
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it now. Yeah. What are you some

1690
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: of the memories you have about walking down that tunnel

1691
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: with the helmet on instead of waving the flag, I mean,

1692
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: when you had the pads on in the uniform. What

1693
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: are some of your fondest memories about being in Buffalo

1694
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: for all the years that you were Uh, I just say,

1695
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, uh, being in the locker room with the guys.

1696
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know you're missing you know, talking

1697
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: to those guys acause you know, once once you're retiring,

1698
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: things like that, it's not the same. You don't really

1699
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: talk to you know, the guys like you normally and

1700
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: when you when you were there. You know, it's a

1701
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: couple of guys that keep in contact with, but it's

1702
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, it is definitely not the same. So that's

1703
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: what I would say, I missed, you know the most.

1704
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, that's really you know, practicing grinding and

1705
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: getting ready h you know for the season with you know,

1706
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: my teammates. He turns. What do you think the key

1707
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: was for you to come in here out of a

1708
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: smaller school, fourth round pick and jump up and makes

1709
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, pretty important contributions for those Bills teams back

1710
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: in the two thousands. What do you think turned it

1711
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: around for you? Ain't got you into a good spot

1712
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 1: on this roster? Uh? Man? I would probably say when uh,

1713
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 1: for Vincent I got hurt because that had got me

1714
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, more playing time. And when he came back

1715
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: from his injury, um, he moved to safe right, So

1716
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: you know that that allowed me, you know, from because

1717
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: I was just really playing a lot of you know,

1718
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: Nike nickelback things like that, and when he had his

1719
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: injury or got hurt for a couple of games, you know,

1720
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: it allowed me, you know, getting the starting role and

1721
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: and stay there. Yeah, you were also had a great

1722
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: reputation and deservedly so, being a great return guy. Have

1723
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: you kept track of the league and what they're doing

1724
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: with kickoffs these days and thought about how it would

1725
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: have affected you as a player? Honestly, man, I don't

1726
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: even really watch football like that. You know a lot

1727
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: of people you know even coming to me, Hey man,

1728
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: you know the Bills, I don't really follow you know

1729
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: too much. You know, if I if I catch the game.

1730
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: I'll watch the Bills or I'll watch the Cowboys, but

1731
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't really just even follow the game too much

1732
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: watching football and Karen's one of the plays that you

1733
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: are probably asked about a lot was the kick returned

1734
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: in San Antonio against the New Orleans Saints, right, and

1735
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't a scoring return, but an amazing kick return.

1736
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: How much do you get asked about that? And how

1737
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: much do you think remember that play? Right now? Man,

1738
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: I get asked about that a matter of fact, that

1739
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: five year old kid asking about it maybe about a

1740
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: week ago. Really, yeah, it was like, hey, I think

1741
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: your kickoff returned against the same you know, you feel

1742
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: short five yards of a go. I was like, thanks

1743
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 1: for reminding me, but uh yeah, I blame that all

1744
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: my teammates. They would have just held me up, you know,

1745
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: across the goal line. Everything would be it'd be different, Yeah,

1746
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: because there are times at that thing where you're going

1747
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: in there's like eight bills around you, and you know what,

1748
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: nobody can turn around and look and get the guy

1749
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: out of the way. Stay out of the way. I

1750
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: mean right right, and really, I mean when it came

1751
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: down to that last guy, it was my timing was up.

1752
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: I was so tired from running back and forth and everything,

1753
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: and then he was just like I thought he was

1754
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna do something different than he did it, and I

1755
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 1: jumped too early and I just stumbled untail. Yeahs ters,

1756
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: how do you stay busy these days? I know you

1757
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in your home area in Texas,

1758
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: but you also have some business interests, including a restaurant

1759
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, right, yeah, I mean, I mean I'm

1760
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: in Buffalo all the time. I've really never left Buffalo.

1761
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: I said, have a place in Buffalo, family, and uh,

1762
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: I come probably once a month least at least ten days.

1763
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Uh so I've never really even left. You know, it's

1764
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: just being released. I've still been, you know, back and

1765
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: forth to Buffalo. But but yeah, that's that's pretty much it.

1766
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the restaurant, a couple of other

1767
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:18,719
Speaker 1: things with former teammates Angelo crowwell yeah, cats and things

1768
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: going with a fifth quarter. So really just investments and

1769
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: then just spending time with my kids. Excellent, Good for you.

1770
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Good good here. I'm glad you're gonna be back in

1771
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: town and uh and try and you know, try and

1772
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: embrace your role as the flag waver. I know it's

1773
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: not it's not it's not the same as getting to

1774
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: pick six. But you know, I'm sure there's gonna be

1775
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are gonna be good and

1776
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: very happy to see you back in town. Right. Well,

1777
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man. Yeah, man, I'm definitely trying to

1778
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: embrace the role and uh, it's definitely gonna be, you know,

1779
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: fun coming back. Great. Karen Stanks, good to talk to you.

1780
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: We appreciate it, all right, Thank you. Karen Spughini, longtime

1781
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: Bill's corner who is the leader of the charge. On Sunday,

1782
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: right before kick Out, the Bills and the Jaggs, Terrence

1783
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway fresh State Highline, presented by

1784
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: suba restaurant's probably to be locally owned and operated. Go ahead,

1785
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: do you want to say something? You know? I get it,

1786
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: though I was like, yeah, he goes. You know, I

1787
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: don't want to be a mascot. I've never read that.

1788
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: That's true. I get I get where he's coming from

1789
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: because when you you can imagine I did it for

1790
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: a long time, and I know other guys. I've been

1791
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: down there when guys were coming out. You walk out

1792
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,879
Speaker 1: that tunnel in New Era Field on a Sunday afternoon,

1793
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: wearing the helmet and the pads in the uniform. There's

1794
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: not too many things like it in this world. Waving

1795
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: a flag doesn't compare it. Yes, it's not quite the same.

1796
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, I've never done it, but I'm thinking, yeah,

1797
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: it's not quite the same. How come you've never been

1798
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: leader of the charge I work. Oh that's right, you're

1799
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: not here very often, so you can do it if

1800
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: you had a game of year. No, because then I'm

1801
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm with the broadcast crew and we're right down. You know,

1802
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: we're impartial. I can't be waving the flag for one

1803
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: of the teams. I guess that would be a problem.

1804
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: What game do you have this week? I've got the

1805
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns at the Cincinnati Bengals. Good, okay, Yeah, the

1806
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: Battle of Ohai Jackson Bull five thousandth time. Yes, the

1807
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,799
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson Bowl. He is now working for the Bengals

1808
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, he did last week too. We saw

1809
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: him last week as well. But let's talk more about

1810
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 1: that game tomorrow. Yeah we can. We'll do that a

1811
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: little bit. I'll be I'll be ready to get you

1812
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: up to speed on the Browns. Practice has just ended

1813
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 1: for the Bills. We'll talk more about that. We'll talk

1814
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: more about last night's wild Monday Night game and get

1815
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: a sense from you. Is that where the NFL is going?

1816
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Do you like that? Give us a call eight oh

1817
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free from Outside Buffalo one eight

1818
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifty one. Bill's Live

1819
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Driving. This is

1820
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network. Story update update

1821
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: from One Bill Drive. The Bills have wrapped up there

1822
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: Tuesday practice this week. They'll go again tomorrow, then take

1823
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: Thursday off for Thanksgiving, and then back on the practice

1824
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: field Friday. They've got Jacksonville coming in. It looks like

1825
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is going to be ready to go. He

1826
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: made it through another practice. An eight quarterback Derek Anderson

1827
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: got through practice today. He was not limited or did

1828
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: not have the red jersey on as he had last week.

1829
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: Taren Johnson maybe in non contact mode. Will find out

1830
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: more about that when the post practice report comes out.

1831
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Bill's Jacksonville Sunday, one o'clock at newer Afield, the NFL

1832
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: game of the year lived up to the billing last night,

1833
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: the highest scoring game in Monday Night football history, third

1834
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: highest scoring game in NFL history. The Rams took care

1835
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs fifty four to fifty one to close

1836
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: out Week eleven. Sam Darnold has been looks like he

1837
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 1: may be able to play this week against New England,

1838
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: two weeks removed from injuring his right foot. The Jets

1839
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: quarterback was a bystander at practice for the Jets yesterday,

1840
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 1: not ruled out yet for this week's game. The Jets

1841
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: are home against New England on Sunday at MetLife Stadium.

1842
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers getting set for a home game tomorrow night.

1843
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: They hosted the Philadelphia Flyers at key Bank Center seven thirty.

1844
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Face off their home on Friday night against Montreal. The Sabers,

1845
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: and now won six in a row, continued their winning

1846
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: ways last night with an overtime win in Pittsburgh. Down

1847
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: four to one, they stormed back to win at five

1848
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: four and overtime with Jack Eichels overtime cole some coaching

1849
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: moves in the NHL. The Edmonton Oilers fired coach Tom

1850
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: McClellan today and replaced him with Ken Hitchcock. It was

1851
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: the fourth NHL head coach firing this year, the second

1852
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: in the last twelve hours. Saint Louis Blues dismiss coach

1853
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: Mike Yale late late last night. Last season, there were

1854
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 1: no head coaching firings during the regular season, the first

1855
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: time that's ever happened in the original six era. Adrian

1856
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Beltrey announced his retirement after twenty one seasons over three

1857
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: thousand hits. The Texas Rangers third baseman announced that he's

1858
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 1: stepping aside. Native of the Dominican Republic, is strong candidate

1859
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: to make the Baseball Hall of Fame. Thirty one one

1860
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,560
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six hits, sixteenth all time and the

1861
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 1: most among foreign born players. And that's the update from

1862
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker ready to go

1863
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: with our three of our show here until three o'clock today.

1864
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: Joined in studio right now, just off the practice field.

1865
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: Very happy to have Bill's wide receiver Deontay Thompson with us.

1866
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: Welcome back here. I'll take it to see you again.

1867
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. You were on the show when

1868
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: you were here before. Yeah yeah, yeah, not my first time. Yeah,

1869
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: not much has changed, yeah yeah, glad to have you back.

1870
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 1: Tell me about the process of getting here. What this

1871
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: season was like for you before you game here back

1872
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: to Buffalo last week? Um, why I was nine the Dallas. Um,

1873
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just happy to be back here. For one,

1874
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm really happy to be here. But it was good.

1875
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: You know, had a had an okay season. It's been

1876
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: going okay, you know. Um, it's just happy to be here. Man.

1877
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Why this way so important to you in your career?

1878
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Why do you think? Why do is Buffalo stand out

1879
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: for you? Um? I'd Amazon Buffalo and I'm being this

1880
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 1: is my third thought. Man. You know, I haven't been here.

1881
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: This happened to me last year at the same time

1882
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 1: with it a little bit earlier last year, but kind

1883
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: of the same situation happened to me last year. So

1884
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: and when I had a chance to come back again

1885
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: this year, Uh, had a few other teams well offers

1886
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: on the table, but it was a no brain to

1887
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: come here. You know, familiar with the coaches, familiar with

1888
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: my teammates and so on, and you like that it's

1889
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: a good locker room. I mean, you knew that you

1890
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: can step in and feel comfortable right that way exactly

1891
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: and they're running a new system though. Yeah, let's gonna

1892
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: take a little bit extra time to do that. But

1893
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been keeping track of the bills,

1894
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: but they've had a couple of guys you know, show

1895
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: up and contribute right away, and I would I guess

1896
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: you're hoping to do the same. Oh yeah, most definitely. Man.

1897
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 1: Like I told coach today, I just want to come

1898
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: out man, whatever it takes to have this team when

1899
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you need me to do, them gonna

1900
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: bust my butt, give them all and leave it all

1901
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: out there. M Dante. The experience in Dallas, what do

1902
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: you think? What did you take out of there? What

1903
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: did you learn when you were with the Cowboys? First?

1904
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: What eight games this season? Um, just learned the business.

1905
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Just learned the business man. It's just a whole business

1906
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: over there. It was fun though, I learned a lot,

1907
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,839
Speaker 1: great organization. It's America's team, you know, that whole stigma

1908
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: with it, So, I mean it was good. It was

1909
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's less of a business here

1910
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: or maybe a different kind of atmosphere here and then

1911
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 1: it's more a family atmosphere. Yeah, it's more you know,

1912
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: guys planning for one another over there's more business interesting

1913
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: what's the word? In the early going? Now you've got

1914
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: a Jag Wars team coming in. I know you're kind

1915
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: of parachuted in and you're kind of catching up to

1916
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: speed on the offensive, but also you're catching what's going on.

1917
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 1: It's special for this week because it's the Jaguars coming,

1918
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: and not that it's a lifelong arrivalry and everything, but

1919
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: it is a game plan. You gotta put in a

1920
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: team that in Jacksonville's got their own personality. Oh yeah,

1921
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: most definitely. Man, it's the same guys off the playoffs

1922
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: playoffs last year, so you we're here for that. Yeah,

1923
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: we got a little as you know, we're trying to go,

1924
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, hand the business the way we're supposed to do.

1925
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 1: But you know, just coming in just really like even today,

1926
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: I was just really just trying to learn these plays.

1927
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 1: Before I could really focus on, right, the Jag was

1928
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 1: and they coverages and stuff. But hey, I got all weeks,

1929
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 1: so I got time. How much do you have to learn?

1930
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: These quarterbacks? These are a new quarterback group than what

1931
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: you had here last year, right, Yeah, a whole new group.

1932
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: But me and Matt Barklett is familiar with each other.

1933
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 1: I played with Matt in Chicago. He actually threw my

1934
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: first NFL toustown. Really, is that right? Yeah, So me

1935
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: and him familiar with each other man's eyes. We was

1936
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: just talking just now. I know once he gets all

1937
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: the way back, that will be standing out the practice,

1938
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 1: get more timing together and things like that. So you're

1939
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 1: back and you had a little bit of success last year.

1940
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: Most of the people they look back at last year

1941
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 1: and the team that got the playoffs. The thing they

1942
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 1: associate with you the most is the Snow Game when

1943
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 1: you made the acrobatic back behind you catch from uh

1944
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Joe Webb of all people in the snow store, to

1945
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: help the Bills win that game in overtime. And that

1946
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 1: was really when you kind of said Buffalo, kind of said, hey,

1947
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: there's our guy right there. And then and now you're

1948
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: back again. Yep, do remember. I mean that was one

1949
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: of the once a lifetime game. It was amazing. Man,

1950
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: crazy is right there. But um so Joe, Joe, well,

1951
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: come in the huddle. He was like, mande, man, we're

1952
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna need a player. I think it was third now,

1953
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think it was there he was like, uh,

1954
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: they if they press you, we called offensive play first,

1955
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: and he looked at me. He say, d if they

1956
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: press you running a goal, if they all just crul

1957
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: up at the sticks. So when I broke the huddle

1958
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: came out, he was pressed, and I know the ball

1959
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: was coming, so I say, man, they just get a

1960
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: good release and just run right fast as you can

1961
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: in a snow and he threw it, and then we

1962
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 1: made Heaven. He threw it and even we just saw

1963
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 1: it on the highlight. He it came out okay, But

1964
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: as it got closer and closer to you started to

1965
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: fluttering more fluttering, more fun the wind by the time

1966
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: it got to you was a kickoff, yeah, because at

1967
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: first it had me going on a trader to be

1968
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: like going towards the middle of the field like and

1969
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: they just I don't know, the wind caught it or

1970
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 1: something and it came back opposite. And I've been here

1971
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 1: for long. I played in that stadium a ton. Going

1972
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 1: into that corner like he were is the worst spot

1973
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: for wind in the stadium because we used to get turnover.

1974
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 1: You kicked the ball in there and a kickoff and

1975
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: it stops and it drops, so they couldn't get up.

1976
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: They'd misjudge it a lot. Catching that ball. It was

1977
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: superhuman and most people don't I appreciate what you were

1978
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,799
Speaker 1: going through trying to catch the ball in that building,

1979
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: in that corner on that day, on that day, it

1980
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: was that ball had to be It had to go

1981
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: like maybe ten yards differently than where he threw it

1982
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: to begin with, exactly. And I said that every time.

1983
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I said to the side. I

1984
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I didn't even know how that happened,

1985
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: because it was it went that way. Then they came

1986
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: back and then it wasn't a spar or either. He

1987
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: let it go. It's kind of tight it was, And

1988
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: then you saw it on the on the rebuild. It

1989
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 1: got to the highest point. It was like tumbling when

1990
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: it came down and you were trying to jump back

1991
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: and even you had a beat on it, and even

1992
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: the last fifteen feet you had to just again exactly

1993
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: and catch it like backward. Yeah, exactly exactly. And then

1994
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, you got to win on a on a

1995
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: day that was unforgettable. So that was that, and it

1996
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: had to get that Winn's odd type of weather, and

1997
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 1: so we had to win that one. Even the footing

1998
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: was tough. I you weren't just slipping around. You had

1999
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: six eight in Oh yeah, it was coming up calf level,

2000
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: yea calf level almost running in that. So yeah, and

2001
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 1: now you're back, you come back and you get a

2002
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: chance to play against the Jaguars, who, as you said,

2003
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 1: you got a little edge. This team kind of oze him.

2004
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, you know they was the

2005
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: TENA not does that, so you know, we don't forget. Yeah,

2006
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be probably another ten three, ten seven game

2007
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: like it was last year too, when it was hard fought,

2008
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 1: especially these plays. So he supposed to get some weather

2009
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 1: this weekend too. Yeah, so yeah, did you see And

2010
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: we were talking just before we got when Murph was

2011
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:20,719
Speaker 1: doing the update. How about that game last night? Man? Amazing, amazing,

2012
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 1: It was an amazing game. It was amazing. Guy. I

2013
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: usually another stay up to watch the whole game, I know,

2014
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: and a Monday night stayed up too. I stayed up

2015
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 1: the whole game last night. I'm seeing the whole game.

2016
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 1: I was intunally, it felt like a playoff game. The

2017
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 1: atmosphereized we rooted for either Kansas City or the rams Um. Yeah,

2018
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: I was ruled for Pat Mahomes. Yeah, yeah, I was

2019
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: rule filmy thinna be. I like how it comes off

2020
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: in interviews too as a guy that Yeah, he's just

2021
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: pretty matter of fact, you know, it doesn't anything. Yeah,

2022
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 1: I like that about him too, until I picked up

2023
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah. I tell some people think we talked

2024
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: about it all day that that game last night sort

2025
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,560
Speaker 1: of signals the beginning of a new era in the

2026
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 1: NFL in terms of offense. Yeah, you think so hopower offenses.

2027
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Really that was that was a show last night. And

2028
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: it was crazy because you'd be like, what the defense

2029
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 1: was that? The defenses sculled three tous now right? Yeah? Right,

2030
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: so they showed up. They showed up, just in a

2031
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 1: different way. It looks different though the whole game. Everything

2032
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: looks different exactly. The defenses are built different. And I

2033
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: told Murph and I've been I've been saying it for

2034
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 1: a long time. Defense isn't about running and stopping the

2035
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: run anymore. It's about getting after the paster and getting turnal's.

2036
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 1: And plus, I mean, you must notice this more as

2037
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: a wide receiver than anybody else. They ain't nobody. You

2038
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: don't have to carry a guy piggyback anymore. When you're

2039
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: running through the secondary, they got to kind of hands free. Now,

2040
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you can tell a difference, Yeah, you can

2041
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: tell you yeah, and you can't even really at the

2042
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 1: five yards and you really you're touching him as whatnot?

2043
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 1: After that they throw the flag. That's changing the game.

2044
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: The game nights and testimony. Yeah, you free releases, get

2045
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: free runs, you know what I mean? And guys like us,

2046
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: we fast. So once you get up to that top speed,

2047
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: it's just hard. On the corner, it's harder. All you

2048
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: gotta do really is get them to lean the wrong way.

2049
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really hard to drop them off because

2050
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: you get in there, you change direction and they take

2051
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: one false step and yeah that and all of a sudden,

2052
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: what used to be in the NFL, you know, window

2053
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: this big at twenty five yards becomes three times that

2054
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 1: big time at fifteen yards. You know what I mean?

2055
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Exactly do you think now? Murph and I talked about

2056
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 1: this just as we broke for the last commercial. Okay,

2057
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 1: is it significantly easier to play quarterback now? Um? Because

2058
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: they're protected because of the new rules in the secondary?

2059
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 1: Guys running free? How we help it definitely didn't hurt.

2060
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: It don't hurt. It definitely helped, you know what I mean.

2061
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: But it's all about protection, that's first. If you got protection,

2062
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, you can play a quarter by anybody can

2063
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 1: go stand behind the old line and you got five

2064
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 1: six seconds to throw the ball right, Yeah, I mean

2065
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: you can go start, I can start. I wouldn't fit. Yeah.

2066
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,560
Speaker 1: How much discussion about that game was there in the

2067
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: Bills locker room today? And how much byplay between you know,

2068
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and receivers. I mean, did the defenser guys must

2069
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,719
Speaker 1: be thinking what are we doing here? Yeah, we don't

2070
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 1: have a chance. I mean, it wasn't too much talk

2071
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 1: about it. You know, we was we was working well.

2072
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean even coach missed it, mentioned it in Team

2073
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 1: me today. Just did you gotta see that game? You know?

2074
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: And just everybody watched it. You know. It was they

2075
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 1: got the two best records in the NFL right now,

2076
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: so it was a like a mid season It's like

2077
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 1: they're paying defenses to get beat now. Yeah, you know,

2078
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: and in the c I'm just I can't even know

2079
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 1: because when you watch the game, the defenses played good.

2080
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't a bad game. It was getting after it.

2081
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: You know, they was getting aft strip sack, fumbled touchdown. Yeah,

2082
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: it was getting after it. Man. Just then you look

2083
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 1: up and there's you know, fifty spot on both sides,

2084
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: Like wow, you know my thing? I said it'd be

2085
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: like a sixty sixty point total game. That's what I

2086
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: was thinking. Sixty seventy the thirties. Yeah right, I was

2087
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:54,679
Speaker 1: not a specking fifty. I believeth it. Yeah, day Thompson Bills,

2088
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 1: when new wide receiver back for his third stint with

2089
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 1: the Bills. Do you move your family? You got two

2090
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: daughters right there, they all move up here with you again,

2091
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 1: three daughters. Yeah, I got a new buy six months now.

2092
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: Congratulations all girls, all girls, Yeah, the whole girl. All girls.

2093
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: Are they coming up here to live with you or

2094
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: what's the plan now? They coming for Thanksgiving this week?

2095
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 1: But they going back the girl power thing. Huh Yeah?

2096
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: You want you out for that? Yeah? You got pretty

2097
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: soon you're gonna be in the mall shop and carrying

2098
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: their purses. I know, man. But one thing about no girl,

2099
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: they take care of their daddy. Got that going for Yeah,

2100
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I got going right now. You

2101
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 1: know the boy they pretty much take care they mama,

2102
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Speaker 1: but the girls make sure they daddy. What are the

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01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving plays? And just a family dinner with the group

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01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: and they get up here. Yeah, just family, just kick back,

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01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 1: shit back, you know, thanks Giving, watch some football, eat

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01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: some good food. That's about it. You know, it struck

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01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: me today, how in this business and you guys are

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01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 1: writing the thick of it. Everybody's used to work in

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01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week right now around other businesses, Like all I'm

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01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: getting three days Yeah, no, people, I mean just to

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Speaker 1: have Thanksgiving Day off Israel, right, you probably work many Thanksgivings,

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Speaker 1: right every most of this the first that coach adjusted

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01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: the schedules just so we can have things getting ill

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01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 1: using this. Just go to the regular schedule. Just get

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01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,719
Speaker 1: out a little bit earlier, right, So they practice today

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01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 1: and you'll give you Thursday off. Yeah, that's why we're

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01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: going in today. Yep, so we just be off Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? What do you think about walking back

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Speaker 1: into the stadium here in Orchard Park. You're gonna get

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01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: me pretty pump When you're talking about pump man, I'm

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01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: gonna be so pumped. I'm just excited, man. I just

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01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 1: love to love in the building. Just you know, everybody

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01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: happy to have me back, and I'm just ready to

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01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: go out and play with these guys. Yeah, we're happy

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01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: to have you. I'm happy to be here. Thanks for

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01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 1: coming by here. We appreciate it. No problem, No problem.

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01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: Deane Thompson back with the Bills. We're gonna talk more

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01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: about the Bills and the Jaguars when we returned. John Murphy,

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01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, One Doll's Live from One Bill's Drives us

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01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: as Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: We're here until three, John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We're here

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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,639
Speaker 1: tomorrow twelve to three, and then on Thursday and Friday

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01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: we celebrate Thanksgiving. We will not be here Thursday and Friday.

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01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: Back on Monday. What is somebody tweeting yesterday about what

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01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: do you guys do shows? I'll do it about the

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01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: may and takeoff during the season. It's called the holidays. Yeah, Thanksgiving.

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01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: It was a good observation though it was smart. Hey,

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01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about what happened last night in the National

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01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: Football League. We want to get your take on at

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01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 1: the wild Game, the three point win by the Rams

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01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 1: over the Chiefs fifty three to it was at a

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01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 1: fifty four one hundred and five total points crazy. What

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01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: do you think and what does it mean for the

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01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: future of the NFL? Do you like where the league

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01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: might be headed? Give us a call eight oh three

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01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: oh five fifty the number toll free outside Buffalo one

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01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. It's a

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01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 1: simple Twitter poll question. It's a yes or no. Last

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01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: night's Chiefs Rams game may have given us a look

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01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: into the future of the league. Do you like where

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01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: the league might be headed? On Twitter? Fifty six percent

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01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 1: of you say yeah, like it, forty four percent of

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01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: you say no, not for me, and some responses on

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01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: the tweet Chief twenty two hate it. Give me a

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01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 1: twenty four twenty one game. I want three hundred yards

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01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 1: to be a good game, not four hundred. I want

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01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 1: yards tougher to come by. I want to be more

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01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: surprised when a big play happens, as opposed to being

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01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 1: surprised when it doesn't. I want defense to mean something.

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01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,759
Speaker 1: If I want one hundred points, I'll watch college football

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01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 1: and that's that tends to be the no answers. Well.

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01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 1: The people took time to write a response on Twitter

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01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 1: for the most part, I've been anti offense. But the

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll is fifty six percent say yes. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things you got to remember

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Speaker 1: too is, um, it's gonna be. It's gonna become more

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01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: normal the more you watch it, there's gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 1: the longer they do it, or the more games and

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01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: the more, let's face it, over the course of our lifetimes,

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01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 1: the scores have gone from fourteen ten, seventeen, fourteen. Now

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01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: it's more like twenty eight, twenty four or thirty five,

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01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: twenty eight, thirty two, twenty nine, those kind of scores.

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01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 1: It's it's raised incrementally little by little every year until

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Speaker 1: now we're seeing much more scoring than we did when

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01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Yeah, and so this was

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01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 1: but let's make no mistake, last night was a big jump. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was something like we haven't seen so,

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01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 1: which is why everybody's kind of sitting up going, Okay,

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Speaker 1: is that good thing or a bad thing? Right? And

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01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a legitimate question, and I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons on both sides of the argument,

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01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 1: most of which though I think from the purest standpoint,

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01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: you got to give the defense a fighting chance. You know,

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Speaker 1: That's the sense I got from Peter King's response, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think when Peter said this, and I have

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Speaker 1: the quote in front of us, Peter was ambled us

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01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: about an hour and a half ago. He said, I

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Speaker 1: think the NFL is interested in seeing how the public

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01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 1: reacts to games that are totally different from what the

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01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: public is used to. The NFL is feeling like, man,

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01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: we're getting away with one right here. We're gonna be

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01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: able to make bigger games. I think that's probably what's

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01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Right The league is going to look at

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01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: the ratings, television ratings, and probably do surveys and probably

2195
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: have you know, they don't leave any stone un turns.

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Speaker 1: They'll probably have what do you call the focus groups,

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01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: which groups here, and they'll also have a spreadsheet on

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01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 1: some of the buttons they can push, like they did

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Speaker 1: with your officiating, you know, with yeah see their hearts.

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 1: But I'm talking more about manipulating the game, not to

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Speaker 1: say who wins or loses, but to say what it's

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01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: going to look like. Like they did last night. They

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01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 1: completely opened up the secondary of that game last night.

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01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: They had a lot of penalties called early in the game,

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01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: it looked like it was going to be penalty after

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01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: penalty after penalty, and they cleaned that. I think they

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01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: did that on purpose. I listen, they're the ones that

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01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: dropped in all these officials from other crews out of

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Speaker 1: the blue. That would be a major story if the

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01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: league manipulated or not. They did. They did it for

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01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 1: the benefit of one team or the other. But in

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01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, if they manipulated, uh, the

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01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 1: officiating group to get a certain test pattern. Is that

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, Yeah, that's a major story. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see that. I'd liked it. I'd like thing. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they Well, listen, they knew, they

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01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: know the numbers on these guys and how many penalties

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01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 1: this guy calls as opposed to this one, and that

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01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: one took post to this one, and they plucked those

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Speaker 1: guys out of other crews. Now that when they did it,

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01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 1: they said it was reported that they said the reason

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01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: they were doing is because they were getting the top

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Speaker 1: guys at each position and throwing them in there like

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01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: it was a playoff game. This is what they do

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01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Well, okay, but they knew what they

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01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: were doing they knew the numbers. One, they can say

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01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:29,560
Speaker 1: they're the best guys. All they want, how do we

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01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 1: know compared to who, compared to what, compared to what number?

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Speaker 1: We'll never know that, but they said these are the

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Speaker 1: best guys. So if they say these are the best

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Speaker 1: guys and they're calling it that way, you can the

2232
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 1: teams go back and look at and say, oh, this

2233
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 1: guy calls a lot of pis you contend that they

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01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: did this on purpose to make this game, this Monday

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Speaker 1: night game, which was already well hyped and promoted around

2236
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: the league, to make this particular Monday night game last

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01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: night a test case, a showcase. Let's see it's I'll

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01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: say that I don't think. I don't know that they

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01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 1: were that calculated, but I do know that. But I

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Speaker 1: do know this. They're running a lot of tests on this.

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01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 1: They had a lot of focus groups focused in on

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Speaker 1: this game, and they were and they're looking at all

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01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 1: the numbers on this, not only the penalties, but and

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01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 1: they're looking at it what was called what was not called.

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01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: They're going through this game with a fine tooth comb

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01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 1: and they're finding out what they can do to actually

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01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: get games either more like this or what they can

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01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: do to make games like this even better. Maybe they're

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01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: you know what, and they may be looking at the

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Speaker 1: other end of it that we haven't even discussed yet, Murph.

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01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 1: They may not even be looking at the secondary or

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01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, or the wide receivers and all that stuff.

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01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 1: They may be watching the guys down in the interior

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01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: of the line. Let's say, listen, if you want to

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Speaker 1: give defenses a chance, here's what we're gonna do. The

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01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 1: offensive lineman can't get their elbows away from their bodies,

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01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, or they can't do this or this or

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01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: the other. They can't. They're gonna limit the offensive linemen

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01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: so that the defense defenders can come in and get

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01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and as long as they don't tackle

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01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 1: them in an illegal way, which they can still protect him.

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01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: That's going to open it up for more sacks, more

2263
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: strip fumbles, more opportunities for the defense up front, so

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01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 1: they can play past defense with the front four instead

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01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: of the secondary who can't setuate the game win. Last night,

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01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 1: there were three defensive touchdowns scored yea, all on strip

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01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 1: sack fumbles. So yeah, yeah, what they deliberately didn't call.

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01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: I think that's where they wanted to go. I don't know.

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01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they're trying to. They're trying to.

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01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: I think they liked the big plays on both ends,

2271
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 1: defense and offense. Yeah, I don't. Just don't know if

2272
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 1: there's that much manipulation, I might be seeing, you know,

2273
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 1: I maybe you know conspiracy theory. I get serious conspiracy theory.

2274
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 1: But listen, I now, will they study what went on

2275
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 1: and see what the ratings were and hop people react? Absolutely?

2276
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: But did they manipulate the game with deficiating to get

2277
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 1: that kind of a result. They did it? They did?

2278
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: They put those officials in there. I'd like to find

2279
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: out what the answer is that. I mean, I might

2280
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: be seeing monsters. But still, let's say a phone called

2281
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 1: Sean and Orchard Park. Go ahead, Sean, you're on the air. Hello, Hey,

2282
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hi enjoying your conversation today. Thank you. I've

2283
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: been thinking a lot about what's been talked about. So

2284
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,560
Speaker 1: give me, give me a thirty seconds to explain my

2285
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 1: case here, go ahead. Still, level um is being deluded.

2286
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you just talked to Deontay Thompson. He just

2287
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 1: said yes on air, Um, the rule changes provide the

2288
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: opportunity for inflated stats, and over time those inflated stats

2289
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 1: become normalcy. Right, Um, it's I enjoyed the game last

2290
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: night if it was an anomaly. Unfortunately, it's headed in

2291
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 1: the direction as we're all well aware of as being

2292
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: the standard. So the complexity of defense, the pass rushing,

2293
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: the coverage combinations. I mean, guys, we're talking about one

2294
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 1: hundred plus point games, a thousand plus yard games, and

2295
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: let's not kid ourselves. This is headed towards no kick return,

2296
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: no kickoff. Yeah, where it's going. It's Steve. I was listening, man,

2297
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking exactly as you were thinking, because I've

2298
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 1: trained with Terrence McGee over at FTA and EASTORRA. He

2299
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: is not a big man. His skill is what's let

2300
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: him stay on the field and have a career. And

2301
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: you asked him, Terrence, what do you think about the

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01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 1: rule changes and how would it have affected your career?

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01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: I think, Steve, the reason you asked that is because

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01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: you know he probably wouldn't have had one because he

2305
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: was a talented returner. He was a talented skilled player

2306
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: that could be used situationally. I mean he did play cornerback,

2307
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: he had other skills but that's what his REP was,

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01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 1: that's how he stayed on the roster, that's how he

2309
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 1: made his living. And then, you know, this is where

2310
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: I think they're headed. Guys. You know, I was listening

2311
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 1: to you talk about, you know, the reps, and it's

2312
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: sketchy that they did that. They're clearly doing something behind that.

2313
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what it is, but it's more

2314
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: than just you know, an observation. They deliberately planned this,

2315
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, and it makes me sad because a lot

2316
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: of this is based off of include you know, inconclusive science.

2317
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 1: The NFL has headed towards an NBA like product where

2318
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: there's sixty seventy points in the game. Within the next

2319
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 1: five to ten years, special teams will be non existent.

2320
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 1: It'll be you know, we're talking about Jared Goff looking

2321
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 1: like Joe Montana. That's what people are comparing it as.

2322
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 1: It's it's just not accurate, all right, we got your Sewan, Well,

2323
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 1: I get it. A lot of people like the NBA,

2324
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, and and I can see why that might

2325
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: appeal and to some NFL owners and NFL decision makers

2326
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: to have a product that maybe is more appealing to

2327
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 1: a younger demographic that is more exciting, that maybe produces

2328
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: more highlights that translate to social media and digital media views.

2329
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people like the way the

2330
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: NBA's played these days. I'm not necessarily in that group,

2331
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 1: but I can see why the league might take a

2332
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: look at that. But again, because here's what you gotta remember, um,

2333
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, and we all know it, it's a it's

2334
01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: entertainment business. It's you know, it's a it's a game.

2335
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 1: It's a television program that they're promoting, you know, as

2336
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: much as it is anything. It's it's an athletic competition.

2337
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 1: It's live sports, which is the most interesting thing on television.

2338
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 1: And the league has gotten to the point where it

2339
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 1: is now where it's the eight hundred pound gorilla in

2340
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: the room. It's the most watched program on television by

2341
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 1: light years. It got to that. It got to that

2342
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: point because it slowly evolved into more and more of

2343
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 1: what people wanted to see when they're sitting at home

2344
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: watching and when they're in the stadium watching, when they

2345
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 1: watch their team play against another team. They evolve into

2346
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 1: what people are looking for in the game. So you

2347
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 1: can bet that wherever the league goes into the future,

2348
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 1: it's only going to be where the fans like you

2349
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 1: and me and most of us want it to go.

2350
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: If it gets the point where all of us want

2351
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 1: to see fifty point games, they're gonna give it do

2352
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 1: their best to evolve into that which we all want

2353
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 1: to see, because they the NFL is and I told

2354
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 1: I say this all the time. It's why football is

2355
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 1: way better now than baseball is and it's bigger entity

2356
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: on the open market because the NFL has never considered

2357
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: its game sacred. Baseball is considered kind of sacred to

2358
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 1: those who are really followers of it. You know, it's

2359
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: the same game in twenty eighteen as it was in

2360
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen. Football is the opposite of that. Their driving interest,

2361
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: their foot the game isn't sacred. Their fan interest is

2362
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 1: what they think is sacred, and they will do what

2363
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 1: it takes to keep that fan interest and hold that attention.

2364
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 1: So they'll change their game to whatever they want it

2365
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 1: to be or need it to be, to make it

2366
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 1: what we all want to see. So take reassurance in

2367
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 1: that it's always going to be an interesting and fun

2368
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: game to watch. But I think last night was almost

2369
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: too much of a good thing for a lot of people.

2370
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm one of those people. Right, Yeah, it

2371
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 1: was compelling. You couldn't turn off. Well you talk about it.

2372
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't want every game you talk about a Thanksgiving feast.

2373
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: That was it last night, and I am and I

2374
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 1: am full. I am full that right, I mean that's

2375
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 1: what it was. I mean it was like wow. I

2376
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, now I'm starting to get ikey. Here's

2377
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 1: a call from a Joe and Tonawanda. Joe, go ahead,

2378
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hi, guys, Hi, I

2379
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: looked this up out of the four superpowers and then

2380
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh San Diego, who he actually has the best defense?

2381
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: Steve talking Sabers, I'm convinced after last night we are

2382
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: on the verge of a dynasty. I mean, let's get

2383
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 1: to your football questions. Now, there's a hockey show on

2384
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 1: from I know Who's Who's this? Who's the call? Joe?

2385
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 1: Thanks Joe, Um, I'm with you. But on the football thing,

2386
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 1: what do you have to say about about the Bills

2387
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: and about No Well, he was asking about so the

2388
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 1: best defensive teams, Baltimore's number one, Chicago's pretty good team, third,

2389
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 1: best defense, right, now, in terms of the stats, Minnesota

2390
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 1: decent team, fifth best defense. UM Pittsburgh is six, Tennessee

2391
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 1: is nine, Jacksonville is four, Buffalo is three, So they're

2392
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo is two. Yeah, is your If your point is

2393
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: the top teams are the top offensive teams, you'd have

2394
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: to agree with that right now, Steve. The top teams

2395
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 1: are the big the big achievers in offense. Kansas City

2396
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 1: is the third best offense. Yeah, the Rams are the

2397
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 1: second best offense. The Steelers are the fifth best offense.

2398
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking for number one. Oh, Tampa Bay number one offense,

2399
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 1: so they kind of break the mold there. I don't know.

2400
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 1: Is there a point to be made there that if

2401
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: you want to win in the NFL you need to

2402
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 1: have a high powered offense. It helps, Yeah, but I

2403
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 1: don't know. The Chargers, Green Bay, Indianapolis, New England. Yeah,

2404
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,480
Speaker 1: all those teams, the winning teams have the best offenses.

2405
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 1: It's not the best defenses. What is Tampa Bay doing

2406
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 1: up there the number one offense? Well, they're an outlier, okay,

2407
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of the things. Might be

2408
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: that their defense is so poor that they they slinging

2409
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 1: around on offense. Plus You've got two quarterbacks that are

2410
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 1: fighting to get the starting job, right, Jamis Winston's hanging

2411
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 1: on for dear life and Fitz Magic is in there,

2412
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: parachuting in and he's getting just enough action. Is so

2413
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,200
Speaker 1: the magic doesn't wear off like it has in other places,

2414
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, I mean, I there's

2415
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 1: no explain in Tampa Bay in this scenario that you're right.

2416
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 1: But it's La Kansas City, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Atlanta and

2417
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers and then Green Bay in Indianapolis and New England.

2418
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, good grief, Yeah, talk about I mean, that's

2419
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 1: your answer right there. That's that's where the league is.

2420
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to Gary and Vatavia. Hello, Gary, welcome to

2421
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:31,200
Speaker 1: the show. Hey guys, Hey, let me get my vote

2422
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:33,400
Speaker 1: in for Steve for a Hall of Fame. You got it?

2423
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 1: Another one? Yeah? Okay, I'm with you, Murph and with

2424
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:41,920
Speaker 1: Peter King. If you want to watch college football, but

2425
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 1: that's on Saturday were I want to watch the pros.

2426
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 1: I want to see the defense. I want to see

2427
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 1: the whole anipo again, that's just me and that's my

2428
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 1: vote there. But what I really wanted to call about

2429
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: was I want the Bills obviously to be able to

2430
02:01:56,440 --> 02:02:00,160
Speaker 1: be more competitive. And what really struck me about the

2431
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 1: game last night was how Mahomes came in against a

2432
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 1: great defense as a really young guy, and I felt

2433
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,880
Speaker 1: like he really read the defenses. I felt like he

2434
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 1: read the defenses and told his guys where to set

2435
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:17,240
Speaker 1: up so that his plays weren't screwed up or mashed

2436
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 1: before he ever got a chance to get out of

2437
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:21,880
Speaker 1: the gate and he had more opportunities to do what

2438
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 1: he was gonna do. What I want to know is

2439
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,800
Speaker 1: do you have to have one? Is it a certain

2440
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 1: skill that a person has to have, or can we

2441
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 1: teach that to a guy like Josh to read like

2442
02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:38,680
Speaker 1: that because that is what Tyrod and EJ. And Nathan

2443
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 1: never had. Well. Yeah, I think I think that the

2444
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 1: thinking is they can teach him that. I mean, Mahomes

2445
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,800
Speaker 1: has twice as many starts now is Josh Allen has?

2446
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 1: Mahomes has outstanding coaching too. I mean Andy Reid is

2447
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 1: a bonified quarterback guru, and he's got a good staff

2448
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 1: that helps him with that. You know the enemy last

2449
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: night too, who is I think their offensive coordinator name.

2450
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:04,160
Speaker 1: They are a good offensive coaching staff. And there's the

2451
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 1: evidence is still out there as to what this staff

2452
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: in Buffalo can do with Josh Allen. That's why it's

2453
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 1: important that Josh played these final six games well. And

2454
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 1: plus this team was built defense first. They haven't in fact,

2455
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:17,640
Speaker 1: to me, they haven't even done anything to the offense

2456
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 1: except tear it down in the last two years. I mean,

2457
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 1: they had Tyrod Taylor last year and they got Lashawn McCoy,

2458
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:26,440
Speaker 1: but the but their offensive line, you know, got decimated

2459
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 1: by injury in the off season. Their receivers they had.

2460
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 1: They took two receivers in the draft, but it was

2461
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: a sixth and seventh rounder and only only ray Ray

2462
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 1: McLeod apt managed to stay on the roster in the

2463
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 1: practice squad. Kelvin Benjamin Zay Jones two years ago was

2464
02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 1: a was a draft pick or a year ago was

2465
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 1: a draft pick. They haven't even really addressed what they're

2466
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 1: gonna do on offense because they wanted to get one

2467
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 1: side of the football straightened out, and they knew it

2468
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 1: was a shorter path and more certain path to do

2469
02:03:57,560 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 1: that on the defensive side in their first year than

2470
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 1: it was the offensive side. So now you got to

2471
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna start working on that offensive side. But

2472
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 1: that's why Mahomes is so potent in Kansas City. That's

2473
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:13,640
Speaker 1: a team that was built offense first and had a

2474
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 1: first pick of the draft quarterback last year running it.

2475
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: They were trying to win last year with that offense.

2476
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: So to plug a young guy into that after a

2477
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:25,120
Speaker 1: year of apprenticeship with a guy who was a veteran

2478
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 1: who ran that offense really well, is a much different

2479
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,880
Speaker 1: scenario than Josh Allen's living through right now. So it's

2480
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 1: not it may not be the same reason. It may

2481
02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 1: be you know, down the road, but not this year.

2482
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't expect the same results from Josh

2483
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: Allen's fifth or sixth start that you can from Patrick

2484
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes and his you know this earlier in this year

2485
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:45,120
Speaker 1: and his fifth or sixth start. I call here from

2486
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: David and Buffalo. Hello David, welcome to the show. Hey Jan,

2487
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 1: thank you. Hey. I wanted to go take on the

2488
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 1: coltail what Steve was saying with regards to I think

2489
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: the game happened the way it did, and I don't

2490
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen again because of the officiity

2491
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:03,000
Speaker 1: and the hand picked officials that they had on the field,

2492
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 1: So I don't feel the futures going that way, unless

2493
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:11,000
Speaker 1: if I kind of go along with Steve's X Files conspiracy,

2494
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 1: it is good. That's a great analogy that they were

2495
02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:21,400
Speaker 1: looking for calls and no calls and how that affects

2496
02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 1: the game. They always just not the case. I really

2497
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,960
Speaker 1: hope that's not the case that they would manipulate a

2498
02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 1: regular season game, a meaningful regular season game to the experiment.

2499
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 1: I hope that's not that. I don't think they manipulated

2500
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 1: in any way. But they did want to make sure

2501
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 1: that this game got called the way they want it

2502
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 1: called by guys they know who call it the way

2503
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 1: they want it called. Don't they want that this weekend

2504
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: every gay? Yes, but they got guys who have proven

2505
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:46,320
Speaker 1: they do that every week weekend, week out. So they

2506
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:49,920
Speaker 1: made sure those guys were on that on that game now,

2507
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 1: and I think there was. And you got to think too,

2508
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:55,920
Speaker 1: this is a game that they wanted. And here think

2509
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 1: about this too. They had a message to send to

2510
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 1: Mexico City as well. You could have had that game.

2511
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 1: Oh come on, there are you know, Roger? They were

2512
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:06,880
Speaker 1: in Mexico City this last week. They went down there

2513
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 1: after they message, they brought in these officials to see

2514
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 1: what you're missing in Mexico say, yeah, that's right. Come on,

2515
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: come on, you don't think you don't think off the rail.

2516
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 1: You don't think the NFL wanted to rub after looking

2517
02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 1: like they did, the NFL, after taking on and having

2518
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 1: radio announces like you ripping the NFL for letting that

2519
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 1: game go to that Mexico City and then have to

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02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 1: bring it back and get egg on their face and

2521
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:31,360
Speaker 1: all that. You're not thinking the NFL was ready to

2522
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:36,000
Speaker 1: rub Mexico City's face in it. No, no, no, come on.

2523
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 1: They had a game, it was a good game. It

2524
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 1: was a premier game of the season. They didn't need

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02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:42,400
Speaker 1: anything extra, So they put those officials in to say,

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02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,760
Speaker 1: see what you're missing Mexico City, because this is what

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02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 1: our games looked like. That game would have been good.

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02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: Look even without those calls that you talk about in

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02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 1: the first half, that game would have been solid. Would

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02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,240
Speaker 1: have been a really good game. I believe that. I

2531
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:54,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it had been fifty four or fifty one,

2532
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 1: would have been a really good game. Come on, you're

2533
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 1: you're crossed over the line. Though I don't know grogs

2534
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 1: over the line. You have listen, that's as plausible as

2535
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 1: them experimenting with the officiating, what wanting to rub Mexico

2536
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 1: City's face in It is as plausible a reason to

2537
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:09,720
Speaker 1: have those officials come in and call the game like

2538
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:11,880
Speaker 1: that as it is to manipulate the numbers on TV.

2539
02:07:12,160 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 1: They before kickoff, they already told Mexico City you got

2540
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 1: next you will have a game there next year, So

2541
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 1: there's no incentive. They didn't need incentive to want to

2542
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:24,360
Speaker 1: rub Mexico City's face in the dirt. Mexico City did

2543
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 1: that range of a stadium they call wow as Mexico

2544
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 1: City did not even incentive to say, oh, let's get

2545
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 1: our act together next year. Oh, look at this game,

2546
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: we better get our act together. No, they knew that

2547
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 1: the stadium was unfit. They were committed to getting it

2548
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 1: better before the game was even kicked off last night.

2549
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 1: Come on, now you've gone, you've crossed over the line.

2550
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 1: Now let's go to Gary on a cell. Hello, Gary,

2551
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Yeah, that's how y'all doing good? Okay,

2552
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 1: Steve's doing good. I'm doing I'm kind of I'm having fun.

2553
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm just taking the show I'm spending the show place.

2554
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm spending the show on the fringes. So you've gone

2555
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 1: into a weird place. X Files territory. Oh ahead, Gary,

2556
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:01,840
Speaker 1: you guys got one more day of work. You can

2557
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 1: make it. Yeah. Like, I'm forty two, I've been watching

2558
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:09,520
Speaker 1: sports as I was probably twelve, and you're telling me

2559
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 1: that they can manipulate the referees. They really can't manipulate

2560
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 1: the players. I don't believe they do that, but they

2561
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 1: sure can tell with referees what to do. And I

2562
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 1: don't want to hear your will though, because the referee

2563
02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I've been watching enough sports over the

2564
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 1: years to know when it's a big game, how they

2565
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 1: manipulate the games to get the ratings. I have no

2566
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 1: problem with it, because I like a good football game

2567
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 1: or good basketball or whatever. But I've seen plenty of games,

2568
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 1: or I've seen the referees. Wilsol is a lot more

2569
02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 1: active in a favor of another team, like the first

2570
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 1: half the game, or the Rams are getting all the

2571
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 1: fall Chiefs are getting. You know, they had like nine

2572
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: penalty ten penalties, and then you know, and in basketball,

2573
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,240
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of that. You know, so I

2574
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 1: don't know. That's all I've seen, all right. Gary, Look,

2575
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they cannot manipulate the game. They can.

2576
02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they would not, and I hope they

2577
02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 1: did not, because I do think you've across the line.

2578
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 1: If you here's they start telling officials, finish. If you

2579
02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 1: start telling officials call it this way because we want

2580
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 1: to goose up the ratings in the middle of the season.

2581
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:08,640
Speaker 1: I have a problem with that. If you start the

2582
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:11,280
Speaker 1: season and say, hey, this year we got an emphasis

2583
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:15,320
Speaker 1: on contact of legal contact in the defensive backfield, I'm

2584
02:09:15,320 --> 02:09:16,800
Speaker 1: okay with it. And let me say this too. I mean,

2585
02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:18,560
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of fun thinking about all these

2586
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 1: big conspiracy theories. But Gary and the rest of the

2587
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 1: listeners listen to this. The NFL, despite the fact that

2588
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 1: there are thirty two separate teams, it's an incestuous league.

2589
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 1: Coaches have coached together, players have played with other players

2590
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 1: on the team. They've had teammates from other teams. They

2591
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 1: know there are a lot of relationships that crossover team

2592
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,920
Speaker 1: lines and sideline to sideline, franchise to franchise at the

2593
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 1: highest level and the lowest level. All these guys know

2594
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: each other. It's a very close knit league. If there

2595
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 1: was anything like that happening, there is no way they

2596
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,400
Speaker 1: could keep it a secret from the guys who have

2597
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 1: skin in the game, and they wouldn't like it and

2598
02:09:57,720 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 1: it would get out. So there's no secrets in the

2599
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:02,960
Speaker 1: NF fell in the NFL family. They're not doing anything

2600
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: that would tilt the left the playing field in favor

2601
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 1: of the Rams, or the favor of the Chiefs, or

2602
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:10,840
Speaker 1: against the Bills and for the Jaguars or any other thing.

2603
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:13,800
Speaker 1: They will never do that because there's no hiding it.

2604
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,480
Speaker 1: They can't hide. And plus they've got a lot of

2605
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 1: people in the NFL officiating department, starting with guys who

2606
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 1: I've known like Dean Blandino, Mike Pereira might carry ut

2607
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:31,560
Speaker 1: Alberto river On, all the guys that have been through there.

2608
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:34,560
Speaker 1: They are paid a lot of money to make sure

2609
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't go down that road. They are they are

2610
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 1: committed to keeping it fair. So with all the games

2611
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that are happening, and make no mistake,

2612
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 1: there's nothing untowards going on that it is anywhere in

2613
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:48,919
Speaker 1: the realm of them manipulating and what's on the scoreboard

2614
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that. They may try and tinker with

2615
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 1: the game to make it look right, but they're going

2616
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 1: to do everything in their power to keep it fair.

2617
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 1: All right, A great care. We're back with more and

2618
02:10:56,840 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 1: one bills live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

2619
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:17,200
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2623
02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 1: is the point of the show every day where we

2624
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 1: take a look at some of our guests and kind

2625
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:32,160
Speaker 1: of figure out what they told us. Today we had

2626
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 1: we find what have we learned? Here? First, we had

2627
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:36,360
Speaker 1: a couple of good guests here out in the show

2628
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 1: today and we're going to recap what they said, including

2629
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 1: Omar Ruiz, NFL network reporter and anchor. He was at

2630
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 1: the big game in Los Angeles last night, the Big

2631
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,840
Speaker 1: Rams victory of Kansas City, and we asked him about

2632
02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:49,280
Speaker 1: the offensive fireworks in that fifty four to fifty one

2633
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 1: final score. What you have seen the last couple of

2634
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 1: years with all the rules changes and really limiting what

2635
02:11:57,800 --> 02:12:01,960
Speaker 1: defensive players can do from a physicality standpoint. Last night's

2636
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:03,880
Speaker 1: game was the culmination of all that, and I think

2637
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:08,160
Speaker 1: that was the blueprint. And everybody talking about the offensive fireworks,

2638
02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:11,480
Speaker 1: and it seems not only the entire sports world was

2639
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 1: focused on that game last night, but it was making

2640
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:18,760
Speaker 1: the news, networks and just everywhere. Everyone was talking about

2641
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:21,920
Speaker 1: that game because of the offensive fireworks. So I think

2642
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:26,320
Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, had had this vision and it

2643
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:29,320
Speaker 1: came to fruition last night. That's one look, added Peter

2644
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 1: King from formerly of Sports Illustrated, now with Football Morning

2645
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 1: in America. He joined us today talked about that game

2646
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:39,600
Speaker 1: last night and whether that offensive explosion last night is

2647
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:41,120
Speaker 1: going to be the future of the NFL. Here's what

2648
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:45,120
Speaker 1: Peter King had to say. It is going to become

2649
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:48,080
Speaker 1: the norm because of the way the game is officiated

2650
02:12:48,640 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 1: and because of the rules advantages to the offense. And

2651
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,680
Speaker 1: so if that's what it is, then it is. We'll

2652
02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:58,120
Speaker 1: all adapt to it. It will just be a different reality.

2653
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:02,040
Speaker 1: And you think that TV networks are gonna say anything, No,

2654
02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:05,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna say give us more offense. Because last night,

2655
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:10,440
Speaker 1: year over year, the ESPN rating was up fifty seven percent.

2656
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:12,960
Speaker 1: Compared to last year. They're not They're not going to

2657
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 1: say anything like whoh, bring defense back, you know, change

2658
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 1: the rules so it's more of a fair game. It's

2659
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:21,520
Speaker 1: not a fair game now, it's an unfair game. But

2660
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:25,320
Speaker 1: that's the way it is. So everybody's gonna have to adjusts.

2661
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 1: I guess that was our Twitter poll today last night's game.

2662
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 1: Is that where the league is headed? On the Twitter poll,

2663
02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:32,480
Speaker 1: fifty five percent of you said yes, you like where

2664
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:34,080
Speaker 1: the league is headed. If that's why it's going to be.

2665
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 1: Forty five percent of you said no, you're not in favor.

2666
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:39,200
Speaker 1: What do you think, Steve A right? Somebody just voted

2667
02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:41,400
Speaker 1: for you for the Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's about twenty.

2668
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:43,280
Speaker 1: That was an accident. It was a hanging chat. That

2669
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:46,280
Speaker 1: was an accident. We gotta run, all right, let's I'll

2670
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:48,360
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow and we'll talk more about conspiracy theories.

2671
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:50,000
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna bring it and I'm gonna bring my

2672
02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 1: tinfoil hat. We'll see tomorrow twelve noon to three pm.

2673
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