1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan? It's mean Jason McIntyre Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: June eight. We got a great guest today. I've been 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: hyping him for a couple of days. We finally got him. 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: We'll get to Josiah Johnson. He is a NBA personality 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: who has made his name big time in the last 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: couple of years on Twitter. He was profiled in The 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: l A Times recently. He was a guest two years 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: ago and at the time, I mean, the numbers went 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: through the roof for this guy. We were like, holy cow, 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: what what? People love him? People love him that It 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: was one of the ten most downloaded podcasts we've ever had. 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Eventually I'll rattle off the other nine. But he is 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: a juggernaut on social media. You guys are gonna love it. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: He is also a Lakers guy. You'll enjoy that. I 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: probably pushed him a little bit hard on Kyrie Irving, 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: but um, I'll wait for you guys to devour that. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Before we get to Osaiah and my best bet for 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: tonight's Game three of the NBA Finals. I do need 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: to talk about Deshaun Watson. I don't want to talk 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson, but I need to talk about DeShawn Watson. 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: New York Times headline on Tuesday, how the Texans and 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: a SPA enabled Deshaun Watson's troubling behavior. Subhead Watson met 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: at least sixties six women for massages over a seventeen 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: month period, far more than previously known. He had helped 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: from the Texans, including non disclosure agreements and making appointments. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: At this point, may want to, uh, you know, earmuffs 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: the kids who are listening while you take them to school. 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: This is not a good look for Deshaun Watson. And 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: in fact, it's a terrible look. And if you just 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: read this you had no idea what suspension could be looming, 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: you would think, all right, you'll probably be suspended for 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the season. I mean, it's terrible. It looks awful. We 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: know he did not play at all last year, but 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: that's not factoring into the suspension. Some of these details, 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: which are new, are really really ugly and mind boggling. 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to even bother counter with some questions, like, 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: for instance, one woman who apparently so Deshaun Watson found 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: like it's too strong of a word to call her 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: like the woman who ran like um a ring of 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: sorts um. But basically this woman he paid her, you know, 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: de Sean paid her money, and she was able to 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: find a lot of women who would come to work 44 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: with de Shaun Watson and apparently they weren't even registered 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: as a masseuses, you know, in the state. And you know, 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: the first time the lady comes, Deshaun Watson wants her to, 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: you know, put her fingers where the sun doesn't shine 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: and um. Then he gets another massage from her, as 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: if the first time I wasn't creepy enough. This time 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: he asked her oral and then the third time, you know, 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: it's like I want more than that, and it's like 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: it's just extremely perplexing all of it. It's disturbing, disappointing. 53 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Can I say disappointing and I listen, I don't know 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: how the lead is gonna come down. I would urge 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: you to read this story before you pass judgment. Obviously, 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I think the New York Times made a free to everybody, 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: but it sounds like the Houston, Texans could actually face 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: some ramifications for taking part. One of the women went 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: on Instagram this was like two years ago, and like 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: showed some text from him and said, you know, you 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: should be ashamed blah blah blah or whatever. And the 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: next day Deshaun Watson, you know, he told security at 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and what did they do. They basically 64 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: gave him a non disclosure agreement to give these women 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: before he got massages. Like that's what you do, that's 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the move. It's just stunning. Um, Watson maintains his in this. 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: It's like, I didn't really do anything wrong. I don't 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: know why she was crying, you know, Like it's just 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: it's it's a little disappointing on Deshaun Watson's case. I 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I was thinking six games. I mean, if 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: you remember Tom Rady got is it three for allegedly 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: deflating footballs? De Sean uh sorry, um, what's his name? Hopkins? 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins got six for some pe D nonsense. You know, 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: I think eight or ten. It feels like it's gonna 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: be the suspension for Watson, if not longer. It's just 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: a disturbing story. I would urge you to check it 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: out all right without further ado, um, and try to 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: clear your mind. Off the negativity. Let's get to a positive, 79 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: fun interview with the NBA Twitter King Josiah Johnson. Jason 80 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: likes to think he knows everything when it comes to sports. 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I know what sports dance wants, but for everything he doesn't, 82 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 83 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 84 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A guy who 85 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: you certainly know if you follow the NBA, if you 86 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: are ever battling the morons on NBA Twitter. They love 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: this guy and I love him. I've known him for 88 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: probably a decade now. Um. I don't know if we've 89 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: met in person, but I've known him online and he 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: is the definition of one of these like, Hey, if 91 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: you put in the work and really grind, you can 92 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: make it happen by via a Twitter account. Josiah Johnson 93 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: just profiled in The l A Times, big piece on you, 94 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the Twitter king. How are you, man? Woman? Thank you 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: for having me, Thanks for coming on. Uh, you know, 96 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: I I don't know if you've seen Rocky four with 97 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: the Russian Kills Apollo Creed. I'm sure you've seen it. 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: But when they're introducing Apollo Creed the announcer has like 99 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: five six nicknames for him, like the Dancing Destroyer, the 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: King of State, and Rocky's like, dude, you got enough nicknames. 101 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that's you at this point, right. Everybody 102 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: just calls you all these different names because you're such 103 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: a legend. I mean, getting shoutouts from lebron Um. I'm 104 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: just curious, has your like life changed at this point? 105 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: When you go to the grocery store, people like, yo, 106 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 1: I know you Twitter? Are you getting that a lot? 107 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: It's weird, not like so where I live at I'm 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: in the in the valley in l A. Like not 109 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: not so much, Like it's kind of just still easy breezy. 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, when I go out places like I was 111 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: at All Star weekend hanging out in Cleveland, and I'll 112 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: see people like staring at me, I'm like, damn, they 113 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: want to fight, Like you just never know like I did, 114 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: I did I say something crazy this person on Twitter? Whatever? 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: And oh man, I love the Gilt Show. I love 116 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: you and Gil. So for me, it's just been been 117 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: a cool thing to see. Like, obviously I played basketball 118 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: u C l A. So attained some level of local 119 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: celebrity at that point, you know, when you're matching around, 120 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: people know who you are. Didn't play that much, so 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: obviously it was very very local in terms of my fame, 122 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: but it's been cool to see it kind of spread out. 123 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: It was weird, man. I was just in New York 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: doing some stuff out there for Game one of the finals. 125 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: I get to the hotel check in, I check my Twitter. 126 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Some dudes like, yeah, I just saw you at the hotel. 127 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: But I was afraid to say hi, and I'm just like, yeah, 128 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: just come say what up? Like it's not It's not 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: like I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm super low key, 130 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't 131 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: move like that. I'm very humble. I grew up, grew 132 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: up in l A, so around this stuff in my 133 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: whole life, so none of this stuff really phases me, 134 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: and I try to just be as respectful and cool 135 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: as possible. Yeah. I like the Gilbert Arenas stuff. But 136 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I talked about this on the pod, like I think 137 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: like the third NBA jersey I ever had was Gilbert 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Arenas from Washington, and I went through this weird moment 139 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: where after he had the incident with the guns in 140 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: the locker room. I don't know. I was like, I 141 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: can't wear this jersey in public. I felt like kind 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: of losery. And I was a big fan of Gilbert 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Arenas because I was I had grown up in the 144 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: DC area and he was like a legend by the 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: time he got there. And I don't is that weird 146 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: of me? Do not want to wear his jersey because 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: um of the gun incident? By the way, have you 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: talked to him about that at all or no? Yeah, Gil, Gil, 149 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: I think the one thing I love about Gil he's 150 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: super open, transparent, very candid about everything that's going on 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: in his life. But the thing about Gil a lot 152 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: of people don't realize super intelligent man, very very smart guy, 153 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: very strategic and how he moves, uh, you know, very 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: calculating how he moves. And I think a lot of 155 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: people have, you know, a negative repression of him still 156 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: from that gun situation. But he's he's gone on, you 157 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's done a lot of great things. 158 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: He lives a good life. He's a good dad to 159 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: his kid is you know, I mean, just just just 160 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: a great dude. So it's great for you to have 161 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: that jersey. I think you should still rocket and wear it. 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: We're prode. He's coming back out. I think with some 163 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: of his Hebachi sneakers, I'll be wearing those out of 164 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: expect for Gil. But it's funny. I always seen Gil 165 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: from Afar, but actually getting to work with him for 166 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: the last Closer, the last year on the No Chill 167 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: pot and really getting to know who he is at 168 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: the human being like Gil just a cool, lay back dude, funny, 169 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: got a great sense of humor, I'm sure than anybody 170 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: who's seen his you know, multi paragraph i G captions, 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, I live for the I live for those 172 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: things like you don't even care if there's a little 173 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: type out here, and they're just the frequency in the 174 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: volume that that he can put out. But yeah, just 175 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: been a great experience for me. I joined season three 176 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and No Chill I didn't really know, you know, what 177 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: to expect going into it, but being able to hang 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: out with him and we live super close and we 179 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: shoot the show at his house, so it's great for 180 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: me to hop out of bed, take that two minute 181 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: drive to Gil's house and go do the show with him. 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: Not bad, uh, you know, it feels like the NBA 183 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have characters right now the way he was a 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: massive character, Like I know, Draymond Green is kind of 185 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: out there. We could talk about him, but I don't know. 186 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: It feels like people don't want to show their personality 187 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: except for on their own social media where they can 188 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: profit from it. It does it at times feel a 189 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: little stuffy and business see the NBA these days. Look, 190 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm all for guys creating their own brand, leveraging that. 191 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, I've worked in the media. I guess we're 192 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: both journalists now and all that good stuff, but I 193 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: definitely always have had a negative view of the media, 194 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: like they were using these dudes for their own benefit 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: and game. I think you see a lot of that 196 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: with the Skip Baylisses of the world and kind of 197 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: other people that you know have profited tremendously off of 198 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: just kind of tearing down players like Lebron and you know, 199 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: guys average like two points on JV so you know, 200 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: don't really know the game, but able to profit off it. 201 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: So it's good to see these guys. It also, you know, 202 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: it has it has a lot of positives in terms 203 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: of being able to have their own brand control their 204 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: own narrative. But that's also a negative too, because when 205 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: you're controlling your own narrative, not naturally, you're gonna leave 206 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: out some things that you know, you don't want people 207 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: to know and people to see, so it becomes more 208 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: kind of propaganda. But I think, you know, even the 209 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: last couple of days, we've seen John Moran, Miles Bridges, 210 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: some other guys maybe getting a little too open on 211 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: social media, showing a little bit too much of what 212 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: they got going on. But I definitely think you know, 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned Draymond. I think a guy like joh definitely 214 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: the character guy. And Anthony Edwards, for my money, is 215 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: one of the most phenomenal human beings I think in 216 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: the history of sports. Uh, but you know came in 217 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: the league obviously. Just you know, I'm good friends with 218 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: Omar Wilkes's agent. Uh My dad and his dad played 219 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: together U C. L A. So just you know, Omar 220 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: is a great dude, Anthony. You know, Omar only rocks 221 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: with dudes that are are just the highest level of 222 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: human beings. So Anthony just funny, great character and actually 223 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: developing a project with him and a couple of partners 224 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: of mine just just kind of show off his personality 225 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: and how dynamic he is. But every interview he gives 226 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: his goal. They just I saw the clip of him 227 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: and Kenny Smith at the Hustle premiere talking about his 228 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: workout with the Warriors with Steve Kerr making them do 229 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: a line drill that Steph doesn't you know, and tired 230 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: and dogging and say, y'all with jogging, I couldn't do it, 231 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: but you know, but just just just his transparency how 232 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Candidy is. And I think a lot of these kids 233 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: have grown up with social media, so they've kind of 234 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: lived their whole life in the public's fear and just 235 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: everybody looking at them, eyeballs on them, so they're they're 236 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: naturally able just to adjust and handle it. And you know, 237 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of older generation we first got social media, we 238 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: were a lot more private and how we moved, and 239 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: I think that was beneficial to us because a lot 240 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: of us nowadays. I'm almost forty, but you know, if 241 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: I would have had Twitter and all this type of 242 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: stuff when I was thirteen, fifteen, whatever, you know, I 243 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: would have been canceled, packed up and not had no gig. 244 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: So I'm super thankful guy got it. Too late in 245 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the game. But these young kids, they live their lives. 246 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: Their lives are open books. So there's a lot of 247 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: pluses with that, and then also a lot of minuses 248 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: with it as well. Yeah, Edwards is a great talking point, 249 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about you kind of pivoting 250 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: from just being the meme guy and the funny guy 251 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: to talking legit hoops now. And that's kind of can 252 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: be a tough transition, right because I know worldwide wob 253 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know him. You know, he was posting 254 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: videos and and you know, trying to transition also to 255 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: talking basketball and people like, oh no way, I just 256 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: I just want your funny videos. And you know, a 257 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: guy like Anthony Edwards is funny, but you can start 258 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: seeing him being like kind of an alpha I think 259 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: he's personally the best guy on the Timberwolves over Karl 260 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns. That can be a tough transition. How are 261 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: you handling going from being funny guy comedian too? You know, 262 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: I could talk some hoops too, what's funny? A lot 263 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: of people you know that that that it's all the 264 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Twitter stuff, right, that's kind of how everybody knows me. Now, 265 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: That's what everybody frames everything in but been in the 266 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: entertainment game for over with fifteen sixteen years. Sports entertainment 267 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: production started out behind the scenes, you know, working for 268 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: NFL Networks, the Fox Sports Showtime, created a show for 269 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: Comedy Central, worked on the show with Eba Duvernet and 270 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Michael Starburr and Colin Kapperne for Netflix. So a lot 271 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: of my stuff was always behind the scenes. But now 272 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, and even if you look at my abby, 273 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: you can't really tell how I am. But now that 274 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: I've transitioned into the spot where I'm doing shows with Gil, 275 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: doing shows with Wave Sports Entertainment, caught out a pocket, 276 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: doing NBA Twitter Lives with the crew of Returner. Uh, 277 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, people are like, oh, man, what does he know? 278 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: What does he know? It's like, look, man, I don't 279 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: try and get into that world where there's everybody so 280 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: analytics heavy. I just kind of try to appreciate the game, 281 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: enjoy the game, and enjoy kind of the same way 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I did when I was playing. When you're in the 283 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: locker room, kind of cracking jokes with God, just having 284 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: a good time. The lighter side, there's tons of people 285 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: that covered from that super serious you know, offensive ready, defensive, 286 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: rady too, student treating percentage, all that great stuff, and 287 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: that's an import part of the game, don't get me 288 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: wrong at all. But for me, it's like, you know, 289 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: kind of like Katie, we eat it back, like who 290 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: wants to, you know, talk sea grass when you're talking 291 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: about basketball, right, who wants to you know, do all 292 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: that stuff where you're just trying to really enjoy George 293 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: the game and watch it. So I try to watch 294 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: it from a unique lens perspective. But also when I'm 295 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: doing shows with guys like Gil, this is something that I, 296 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to him early on about. It's like, yeah, 297 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: makes you jump in these convos and it's like Gil, 298 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: if you're a CP three you're having a conversation, what 299 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: am I gonna be able to tell you guys about 300 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: playing the NBA. I'm more fly on the wall, a fan, 301 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: like I want to ask the question that fans, you know, 302 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: like just simple things that that we as fans of 303 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: viewers may not get to understand. Yeah, I played college basketball, 304 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: won't won't sit here in lions said I played that much. 305 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: But I was, you know, on on the team of 306 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: U C. L A for five seasons, but you know, 307 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: one retch ort year, four or four seasons of actual playing. 308 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, the NBA has a whole other beasts, 309 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: whole other thing, And I think too often we get 310 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: in this space whereas journalists were kind of ask questions 311 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: that we have no business answering, and we feel like 312 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: we have to or me, I always take a step 313 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: back and be like, look, I don't know the answer 314 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: to that question. I don't know what a guilt or 315 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: a CP three or or a step for you know, 316 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, any of these guys are thinking in that moment. 317 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: That's why we have the luxury and the ability and 318 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: the skill to be able to ask them them and 319 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: get them to articulate those things. So even stepping into 320 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: this this world, man, it's been super cool. It's funny, 321 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Like you know, gigs that used to be reserved for 322 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: former NBA players are all stars now. You know, if 323 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: you create your own brand and create your leverage, create 324 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: your own currency, you can now create a space there. 325 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: So every company I work with, you can go check 326 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: their accounts and look at what with videos that I'm 327 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: not involved with, what those numbers do. Then look at 328 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: the stuff that I'm involved with, and when that does, 329 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: and you're gonna notice trends and things like that. And 330 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I used to sell myself 331 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: to companies is like when I come and I understand 332 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world, I'm heavy on social 333 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm monitoring trends, you know, tracking all types of good stuff. 334 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: So the strategy for me is always talking about stuff 335 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: that fans and people want to engage with, but also 336 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: opening up that discussion, in that conversation to everybody, Like 337 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: everybody has opinions, everybody has things that they want to share. 338 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: They may be right or wrong, whatever, But I want 339 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: to create an environment where everybody can come and say 340 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: what they have to say without all that toxic stuff 341 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: and people trying to fight each other and troll each other. 342 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: It's like I said, especially in the basketball world, we 343 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: get into the world where you know, my favorite players Lebron, 344 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: but if your favorite players m J or whatever, Now 345 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: we're not supposed to like each other because we don't 346 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: like the same basketball player. It's like that to me 347 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: is just so stupid. And I see a lot of 348 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people I know that are that I'm 349 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: friends with that maybe beefing with each other over basketball taste. 350 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're really gonna fight this man over a 351 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: basketball take. You guys have so much in common that that, 352 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, look past that that one thing that you 353 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: don't get C I I with, and there's so much 354 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: other stuff that you can relate to each other with. 355 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much there. I have like seven 356 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: follow up questions the obvious one. So Chris Paul and 357 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Growing Arena start talking hoops, and I know people will say, well, 358 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: what can you offer? But I totally disagree with that, Josie, 359 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: you can. You can bring a ton to the table. 360 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: First of all. A lot of these guys, and you 361 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: know this, I've done plenty of radio and TV with 362 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: former athletes NFL and be they're gonna be soft on 363 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: their own dudes, They're gonna be there friends with a 364 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of these guys. They have relationships. They're not gonna 365 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: keep it real. Now. Maybe a guy like Patrick Beverley 366 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: is keeping it too real, right, But a certain outsider say, uh, myself, 367 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: you guys who didn't play in the NBA. Hell, I 368 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: didn't play college or high school. I mean I play 369 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: ball now, but like I didn't grow up eating World 370 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: War One. But if I stove deep into it, I 371 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: could articulate World War One and have a deep discussion 372 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: with you, right, same thing with like the Civil War 373 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: or anything. And I've been following basketball forever. I mean, 374 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Chris Paul is a perfect talking point, Josie. I don't know, 375 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: why does he always fill in the playoffs? It's a 376 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: point blank question. I know your friends with some of 377 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: these guys, but why does he always come out on 378 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: the losing end? Like I don't, I don't, I don't. 379 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: I can't give you a straight answer, but this guy 380 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: has had some of the most misfortune. When you talk 381 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: about being a high level professional athlete. I think that's 382 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: the one thing people kind of can't separate because they 383 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: play the video games, and their players never heard on 384 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: the video games, and they think these guys are just 385 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're they're they're out of these world athletes. 386 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: But the injuries and the stuff that they deal with, 387 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: and they're never really healthy during the season, right, You're 388 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: always battling some nick or some pain or some injury 389 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: to get through. So CB three has just been in 390 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: a position throughout his career where he's had the opportunity 391 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: to do some great stuff. I think about the three 392 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: to league when he's with the Rockets and he's get 393 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: the hammy injury. It's just you know, stuff like that, 394 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: that's just tough breaks. Like he didn't go out there saying, 395 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: damn herd my handstring today. You know, he's feeling himself. 396 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: He's he's giving the stuff to Shimmy. You know, he's 397 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's doing all those type of things, and 398 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, season just gets put on hold. That's the 399 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: kind of situation that happens him this year. I don't know, 400 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: it's tough. Luca came in and you know, it was 401 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: crazy to me because it's that that game is so 402 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: far gone now, but that that literally happened in this 403 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: postseason where the sun just got smacked on Game seven 404 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: on their own floor and we're all witnessing and watching 405 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: this thing in real time. Just like, how does this squad, 406 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, Money Williams coach, squad that plays at this 407 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: high level all season now, you know, in the most 408 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: important game of their season, just go out there and 409 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: lay a stinker like that. But it's a part of basketball, man, 410 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: It's just a part of the game, so I can't 411 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: answer that question. But back to your to your point 412 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: of question. When I'm with those type of guys, I'm 413 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: not saying that I don't have anything to offer, but 414 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: my thing is I can offer a perspective where I 415 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: can ask follow up questions or deeper into certain things. 416 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, it may be a softball question or 417 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: something they're trying to duck or dodge. Were now I 418 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: can come in and be that, you know, Gil's the 419 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: good cop. I'm the kind of bad cop role where 420 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about them, where let's get more 421 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: in depth on that type of stuff. But for me, 422 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, I'm not gonna be able 423 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: to answer questions about what it's like playing in the 424 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: game seven, like haven't haven't done it, couldn't, couldn't. But 425 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: that's even kind of a silly question, like what what 426 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: do you think it's there's pressure like come on, but 427 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: league championships like come on. I'm not saying yours, but 428 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you watch networks now ask some of their host what's 429 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: going through his mind right now in games? And it's 430 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: like dumb, how the question? Let's let's ask him in 431 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: the press conference because I can't really tell you. I'm 432 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: literally in a suit right now in a air conditioned studio. 433 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in his mind Game seven, 434 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes we feel like we're forced to 435 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: ask that we're putting this role. We gass ourselves up, 436 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I know, like Chris Paul 437 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: versus the Mavericks, Like listen, I know people will never 438 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: ever let Lebron live down the finals against the Mavericks 439 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: when him and Wade lost and Lebron kind of vanished 440 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: that So I've asked multiple people who played on that 441 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: Heat team. They still don't know what happened to Lebron. 442 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I think we will go through and not know what 443 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: happened to Chris Paul in like the final four games, 444 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: because his numbers were just like, I mean, they created 445 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know what happened to Maybe there 446 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: was an injury or there was something off the court, 447 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: but he was not the same player that he was 448 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: season anything. In the first round. It was unfortunate. I mean, 449 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: you never want to see especially got that magnitude. I'm 450 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: sure Pat that would disagree, but guy have that magnitude. 451 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Who who's who's given so much his career, played so hard. 452 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: And that's the funny thing. Man. We we interviewed Chris, 453 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: I think before the season started, and I came in 454 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: kind of not having the highest opinion of him, just 455 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: the stuff i'd heard, whatever. But then you sit down 456 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: with the guy, look him that, I have a conversation 457 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: with him, and I left that interview having a tremendous 458 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: amount of respect for him. He's a leader, he demands 459 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: certain things. It was players cut from the same cloth 460 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: to guys like Kobe. And it's like, you hear all 461 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: these stubby stories about Kobe now, but when Kobe was 462 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: playing it, you know, he was a difficult teammate because 463 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: he demanded a certain level of excellence out of out 464 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: of fellow players, right, and that's gonna create situations. Some 465 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: guys don't want to hear that stuff. Gil the same way. 466 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, for all the criticisms that Gil gets, Gil 467 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: was a guy who was a student of the game, 468 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: Like he busted his ass, He worked hard, he studied film, 469 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: he you know, he put in that extra work to 470 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: get to where he is. So when you get two 471 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: games and you see guys and aren't playing at that level, 472 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: it's like, well, why the am I gonna pass into 473 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: this dude? Right? Why am I gonna Why am I 474 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: gonna trust this guy who I know left the practice 475 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: facility right after practice and they didn't get no extra 476 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: shots up, didn't and no extra working. And now but 477 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: just because you know, there's been opinion created him by 478 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: the media and fans or whatever, the outsiders who aren't 479 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: with us on a daily basis, that now I'm supposed 480 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: to give him the ball. No, So I have a 481 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of respect for those guys. For CP three 482 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: is stuff now because he's getting up in those years. 483 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: You never want to see anybody deserves the ring or 484 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve the ring. But that's a guy that you 485 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: would like to see win a championship at least me. 486 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have a lot of fans, but 487 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: I mean he has fans. He has a lot of 488 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: people who aren't rolling with him. That's a guy who 489 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, he left the Rocks to go to Okay, See, 490 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: we thought his career was done. You know, the Thunder 491 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: went fourth fifth seed. You know what I'm saying, left 492 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: the Thunder come to the Suns. You know, the Suns 493 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: were peeking in the right direction, and they were, they 494 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: were playing well. But this wasn't a squad that was 495 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: some playoff jugger or not right there, one of those 496 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: eight games in the bubble, but then you know, didn't 497 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. So you know, you're talking about a 498 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: team that wasn't there and now they're the number one 499 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: team in the league. So you gotta give CP three 500 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: is credit. Clippers, same thing. Clippers were a laughing stock. 501 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: He comes through there, you know, and I want to 502 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: say they made the playoffs all six years he was there, 503 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. So these are these are things 504 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: that you gotta attribute to a guy who demands a 505 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: certain level of success. And we can make jokes and 506 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: do whatever we want, but at the end of the day, 507 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, top 508 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: seventy five all time. We got to give him the 509 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: respect that he deserves. Yeah, no doubt about it. He's great. 510 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: But and that leads to like the next question. It's like, boy, Jason, 511 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: you were just critical Chris Paul. Why do you hate 512 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: Chris Paul? Like I'll get tweets about that, And d 513 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: M is like, oh, you are Chris Paul hater? No, 514 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean I'm just being a little critical. Like I 515 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: think he's a great point guard. Like you said, first 516 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, he's a winning player, Josiah, You 517 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: know what that is, just a winner like I've called 518 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving not a winning player. He's a talented guy, 519 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: immensely talented, but he's not a winner the way Chris 520 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: Paul is. Anywhere Chris Paul goes, they win games. They're 521 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league. But when 522 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: you're critical of someone and I don't know, could you 523 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: give me an example. Have you been slightly critical of 524 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: anyone and everyone's like, why are you a hater of 525 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: X player X? Yeah? I think so. Steph Curry fans, 526 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: we don't really see eye to eye. And it's really 527 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: been it's been a from back in the old days 528 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: with them coming out Lebron. You know I'm talking seen 529 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: all those years and now Steph's career has panned out. 530 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's the same thing Lebron gets Bron can 531 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: the Lakers this first year, Lakers on say were like 532 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: the four seed before you suffer the injury, then they 533 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs. Steff kind of double with similar 534 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: season in the past two years when you didn't have 535 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: Clay and didn't have that juggernaut squad with k D 536 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: and all these Hall of famers. But it's it's just 537 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: a situation with their fan base. Stuff does a lot 538 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: of amazing things, but any any time you're critical or 539 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: offer any critique on it, you're the biggest hater in 540 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: the world. They're trying to ruin your life, trying to 541 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: get you fired from your jobs. Like literally, you know, 542 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: just scour on your Twitter trying to find that that 543 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: one got your hot thing, and it's it's I think 544 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: it's gotten a lot better. But with I don't understand. 545 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: I got a tremendous amount of respect for Steff. How 546 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: can you not love somebody who you know, obviously Light's 547 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna do you know, I'm a Light's gonna do the 548 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: same claud talking shit, getting buckets. How do you not 549 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: love a dude like that? You know what I'm saying. 550 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: I'm happy to see even with Clay come back in 551 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: the Warriors performing well, but now making to the finals again, 552 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: it's back to that same stuff. It's kind of they've 553 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: they've switched on you know, the Lebron jokes and for me, 554 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm a big Lebron fast. Anybody comes to Lebron or 555 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: cracks at Lebron, You're gonna get it back from me. 556 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: That's just kind of what it is. But I think 557 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: it's a world where now you gotta give and take. 558 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: And it's like, look, the Lakers have a bad year, 559 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: Lakers fans are gonna get the jokes off. Kind of 560 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: use it the coping mechanism. It is what it is, 561 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: but we will be back. Fox Sports Radio has the 562 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 563 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 564 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app. Search f s R to 565 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: listen live. I love how there's just no middle ground 566 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: with NBA fans. It's weird. It's like, well, if if 567 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: you if I defend Curry, I'm a Curry ball washer, 568 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm the big you know you'r And I like Curry. 569 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. I have maintained he's my favorite 570 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: player in the league, favorite player of all time, maybe 571 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: in all of sports. I don't know. Lebron's up there too. 572 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: I like, I mean, that's but I'm not gonna jameson, 573 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I can't talk to you like that's not great. Take 574 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: the man, Like the Warriors were fucking trash before Staff 575 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: came through there. Let's keep it real, you know what I 576 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: I mean. It was like I don't know, like they 577 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: had that twenty year period with like no playoffs or 578 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: you know, Jakie, you know it's like, now Staff comes in, 579 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: you winning championships, of course you're gonna puff your chest 580 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: to flex out. Like the guy really changed that whole 581 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: franchise's trajectory. Yeah, no, no doubt about it. I mean, 582 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: I guess my thing is like I'll go to play 583 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: pick up hoops like I played this morning and someone's like, yeah, 584 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: you're boy, Curry not playing that well in the finals. 585 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: And I look at the guy, I'm like, are you 586 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: being serious? Like he's been the best player in the finals, 587 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I made this argument Josida, 588 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: like the three pointer makes such high variants that the 589 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Warriors often blow people out in the playoffs or get 590 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: blown out, and that's why there's never close games. And 591 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Curry doesn't have like that, oh that Michael Jordan's double 592 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: pump over Elo moment or a Lebron buzzer beater, Like 593 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Curry's always destroying people. I don't know, is there anything 594 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: to that? Like, I don't know why he doesn't have 595 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: like a signature moment, Jason, what is Curry's signature NBA 596 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Playoff mooment. I'm like, I don't know. He's got two 597 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: unit MVP awards, He's been in the finals five times. Like, 598 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: does he need a moment? I don't know, does he? 599 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think, yeah, you talk about those 600 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: signature moments, who really cares? Man has three ranks, thirty pieces. 601 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: Signature moment is dropping thirty four and twenty nine and 602 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: two games, you know, fairly easy. And that's the thing. 603 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: We still haven't seen that killer stuff. As crazy as 604 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: that sounds. He's still putting up those thirty but it's 605 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: not you know, I mean, like still waiting for that 606 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: st have to unleash where he's just unstoppable. He's playing 607 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: a lot more. I feel like in the framework of 608 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: the game, he's got a lot better team now, a 609 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: lot more offensive weapons, you know, with the Clays and 610 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Pool making his name for himself. 611 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: But one thing, you know, I've interviewed Matt Barnes, We 612 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: got we had Nick Young on our show, out of 613 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: Pocket on Wave. But just talking to these guys and 614 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: hearing the way that Steph makes players better. You look 615 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: at players that come through there, even a guy like 616 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins and the confidence that he has, the ability 617 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: that he has, a Jordan Pool, you know, confidence that 618 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: he has, you know, coming out of Michigan. Wasn't you know, 619 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: wasn't wasn't highly tired coming out, But you're working with 620 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Steph getting this game right now. This dude is transform 621 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: himself into a max level player, like hitting forty footers, 622 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, with that same swagging confidence. And who's the 623 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: first guy to come up to him after his steff 624 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the way that Steph 625 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: can change the whole franchise, you know, hearing the guy 626 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: like Matt Barnes talk about, you know, coming for that 627 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: championship here I believe in twenty eight teen, and just 628 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: how how hard those guys worked after practice, everybody getting 629 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: shots of everybody working on their game, everybody you know, 630 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: putting that extra effort in to be great. And that's 631 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: all a testament to what Steph is brought to the table. 632 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: So even me, like people look at me like you're 633 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: Lebron staying whatever. It's like, I got a coremendous amount 634 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: of respect for Stuff, Like you know what I mean, 635 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: I've been I've been lobbying for Stuff to come join 636 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: Lebron for years. I think that would be the most 637 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: unstoppable duo in the history of mankind. But ultimately, you know, 638 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: I got a ton of respect for Stuff and Winner 639 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: losing his post season, like you know, I think he's 640 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: established himself, and we make the jokes with the finals 641 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: MVP that's kind of you know, Ultimately, anytime we're having 642 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: a discussion, we're gonna use whatever we can against the 643 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: other side to get what we need to get to. 644 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're of course we're gonna talk about Steph 645 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: not having finals MVPs. Yeah, as he deserves something. I 646 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: think we can look at the numbers and say, yeah, 647 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: shortly definitely should have been his a little tougher during 648 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: the Kadie era. But he's a guy like right now, 649 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: you know, I do the show. Gil Gil had stuff 650 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: like you know, going into the finals, like fifth on 651 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: his list of potential finals MVPs. But but just saying, 652 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, there's a kid. But his 653 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: rational made sense in terms of when he explained himself, 654 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: just you know, guys, guys are gonna have more opportunity. 655 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: You got like Wiggings isn't gonna be keyed on as much, 656 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: so he has the potential to get more buckets or 657 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: somebody like Clay now coming off of two seasons not 658 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: playing in the Great Redemption story, Jayson Tatums and the 659 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Browns of the world. So but now after two games, 660 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you still feel that way to 661 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: shift it a little bit. Uh, let me ask, do 662 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: you think at this point, as you're as you've risen 663 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: up in the NBA Twitter ranks, do you think players 664 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: are coming to befriend you so they can get positive 665 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: coverage on social media? And you can be honest, Look, 666 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: I've changed as a human, like you know when I 667 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: was younger. I think, you know, there's a lot more pettiness, 668 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot more trying to go at people, a lot 669 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: more not respecting these guys as human beings. But I 670 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: think in the wake of just all the mental health 671 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: advocacy going on with guys like Kevin Love, guys like 672 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: the Marta Rosen and other guys speaking out across athletics. 673 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: It's it's for me. I had to take a step 674 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: back and just be like, look, I don't want to 675 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: be someone that's constantly tearing down guys. You know what 676 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, tearing down guys and girls or athletes. 677 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. So 678 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: with me, I had to shift this kind of my 679 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: whole stance and now it's more stuff I want them. Look, 680 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: if a team is playing bad, I'll definitely be critical 681 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: of the team. Get the jokes off. Like Sons getting 682 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: smacked by thirty at home in the game seven. Yeah, 683 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna get those jokes. Let him get the firing. 684 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: Let's trying to go at guys individually, I think, you know, 685 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: for me's just trying to have respect for them as 686 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: human beings. And to your point, a lot of these 687 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: guys follow me now, so I may have to see 688 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: him on the street as your as your your name girls, 689 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I'm gonna see these gods on the street. 690 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say any of these guys I want 691 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: to say to their face. So if it's jokes, I 692 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: want them to be jokes that they can see in 693 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: the locker room, they can laugh about and find the 694 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: humor and try to be less of the mean spirited 695 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: negative stuff. Occasion, I'll get dragged back into that world, 696 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: but just try to keep it. Try to keep it 697 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: as funny, lighthearted as possible, and stuff that you would 698 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: hear in the locker room. You know, guys cracked jokes 699 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: on each other all the time. I wish I had 700 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: asked this question right before. You just said all that stuff, 701 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: which is very nice, and I totally understand that. I've 702 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: had some of those moments where I've been critical of 703 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: guys and then I got to work next to them, 704 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is a really nice guy. I 705 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that. That being said, is Kyrie Irving 706 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the most overrated player in the NBA. And I know 707 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Spotlight do not like 708 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: the world overrated, but Kyrie Irving he has all the 709 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: fans for some reason. People love him. I think he's 710 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: an incredible point guard. And Josiah listen, other than winning 711 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: with Lebron, what has he done in his career? You 712 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: know what's crazy is I feel like a lot of 713 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: people from the outside will make kind of commentary like that. 714 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: But when you ask players right who who they love them? 715 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: They love Kyrie. So I'm more inclined to listen to 716 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: guys that actually, you know, have hooped and played the 717 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: game and formulating my opinions. Kyrie is putting a tough 718 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: situation r and he goes to Cleveland. I want to say, 719 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't make what the playoffs the first four years 720 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: there until Brin comes back. I think they're getting one picks, 721 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, the whole time. That's that's a lot to 722 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: ask anyone to go to fair enough, I mean, you know, 723 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: that's you know who who other than Lebron is going 724 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: to Cleveland, and really, you know, just turning that that franchise, right, 725 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: that's fair. I'm knock him for that. But then, but 726 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if Kyrie goes to the Warriors, or to 727 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers, or to a franchise that hasn't established lineage, 728 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: things might be a lot different. Do I agree with 729 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: the stuff that he was doing this year? Wait? Wait, 730 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: let's back up. They get Lebron and all of a 731 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: sudden they're awesome, but then we get to like Josiah, 732 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: It's still unclear why did he want to leave Lebron? 733 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: He demanded, I'm getting away from Lebron when all the 734 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Sky's entire career, everybody's wanted to play with Lebron. And 735 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: that was the first point that I was like, wait what, 736 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: I didn't understand it. Now, maybe he was trying to 737 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: beat Lebron out the door because he knew Lebron was leaving. 738 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: But have you ever drilled down on that and given 739 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: any thought. I mean, look, I think at the end 740 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: of the day, Kyrie was probably filmed like he was 741 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: in Lebron Shadow and that, you know, I think it 742 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: was a similar situation with Russ and k D where 743 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, Russ Russ is playing in k D Shadow, 744 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: he feels like he's an m VP level player as well, 745 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: feels like he deserves more credit. You know, you're getting 746 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of the Lebron father figure and what's it like 747 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: Lebron being your dad And it's like, I have a dad, 748 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? Like he's a great teammate, 749 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: he's a great leader, but like kind of being like 750 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: the little brother. You know, it's kind of like, uh, 751 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: you know Marlowe in the Wire, you know, when he's 752 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: with prop Joe and he's like, yeah, I wasn't meant 753 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: to play the Sun, and that's what Kyrie thinks. So 754 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Kyrie goes to Boston. You know, there was some Kyrie 755 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: has been dealing with a lot of injuries and stuff too, 756 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: and obviously the mass situation, the mandates and all that 757 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: good stuff. But it's tough. But I can never fault 758 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: the guy for separating athletics. Sometimes things are bigger than sports, 759 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: and I think, wait, wait, wait, hold on, let let's 760 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: he went to Boston. He's playing with guys who are 761 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: now in the finals, Tatum Brown, I know they're a 762 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: little younger. And then he like doesn't show up on 763 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: the bench for Game seven against the Calves. He tells everybody, 764 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm staying in Boston. Then he leaves it as like 765 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: Brad Stevens is a coach. He's like, I'm out of here. 766 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Screw this. Goes to the Nets, brings Kevin Durant, keeps 767 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: getting injured and Josiah. I know people want to defend Kyrie. 768 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: I understand that he's very well liked among his peers, 769 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: but the guy went a wall this year in Brooklyn, 770 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: just left the team. Nobody knew where he was. What 771 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: NBA player has ever done that and gotten away with it? 772 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: It goes, I don't. I don't get it. I mean, like, 773 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: that's why I said, I can't say I agree with 774 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: every single thing he's done. You know, I'm a big 775 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: believer in taking the vaccine and all that stuff. I 776 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of misinformation things like that, but 777 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: I think after you know, dealing with this pandemic, a 778 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: lot of people are all over the place of things 779 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: going on in the world, you know, racial issues, all 780 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: that type of stuff going on. You know, now we've 781 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: got the gun violence and all that that type of 782 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: these things. Like there's things that are bigger than sports. 783 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: So I can't put myself in his head. I agree 784 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: again with all the stuff he's done. No, But do 785 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: I understand some of the positions that he was taking 786 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: in some of the reasoning behind it. Yeah, I don't. 787 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: And even when people I don't agree with, like I 788 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: can understand why you are going that particular route. If 789 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't, that's not what I would do. But that's me. 790 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: That's why you're you, That's why I'm me. So I 791 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: feel like Kyrie got a lot of backlash. Obviously, playing 792 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: in a major market like New York and kind of 793 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: doing these things. But again, you can't go up and 794 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: get swept in the first time of the playoffs to 795 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: the team that you, you know, turned your back on 796 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: to go form this you know, juggernaut super team with 797 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: you gotta at least win a game. But for me, 798 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: I knew after they tricked off game one, I was like, oh, 799 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: this is not you know, this is one of those things. 800 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: They win game one, you know, you now we have 801 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: a completely different series and maybe we have this Nets 802 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: Warriors Finals that everybody was excited about. But you lose 803 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: that game, and this is the postseason. You can't really 804 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: afford to trigger off games like that, and obviously the 805 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: rest is history. Yeah. I know people are gonna hear 806 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: what I said and be like, you're the biggest Kyrie hater. 807 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: I just for the record, Josie, I have a Kyrie 808 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: Cavs Jersey burnt orange. I bought it. It's like the throwback. 809 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: It's sick. I love it. I was a Kyrie fan. Uh, 810 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: and then he went off the rails. Anyways, all right, 811 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: let's go to a couple other quick questions. Um, who 812 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell? Where do you think he ends up this 813 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: summer because it sounds like he's about to ask that 814 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: I want out. What do you think Utah just says, 815 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: we're screw it, We're not dealing you. I salute I 816 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: salute Donovan for even playing in Utah. That's one of 817 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: those cities that you know, you're talking about cities in 818 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: the NBA, and it's no knock to people in Salt 819 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Lake City, Utah, like, I got no no issue with you. 820 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: But that's just for me personally, one of those places 821 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: in the league. It's like Utah Cleveland. There's a couple 822 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: of spots like come on, dog, like like give me 823 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: out of here. Okay, see another spot, and no, not 824 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: to those people. I'm a Sonics guy though, so you 825 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: know I'll never really rock with Okay see like that. 826 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: No no fault of any okay see resident, But that's 827 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: just kind of the game. But I think Donovan, um, 828 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I know he's got obviously the 829 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: CIA machine working for him right now. I'm sure he 830 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: wants to get out. I know there's a lot of 831 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: people that would love to entertain the services, and I'm 832 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: really appreciative now, you know, I'd like to say there's 833 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: no loyalty in sports, as much as fans want to 834 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: pretend there is. They want their favorite player to be 835 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: loyal to a team, but teams aren't loyal to players, right. 836 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: Guys lose value if they can find a better deal, 837 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: if they can make the team better, They'll trade a 838 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: guy in a heartbeat more times than not. Right, So 839 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: I never believed in that whole Players got to be 840 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: loyal to franchises until they don't want them anymore. Like 841 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: this is business and I'm love to see this player 842 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: empowerment movement for better for worse. Where guys like James 843 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: Harden saying, look, I don't want to be here, you 844 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you don't have jobs you're 845 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: at and everybody like, oh, you signed a contract, sign 846 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: a contract pretty much anywhere you work at. And the 847 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: way that the you know, the NBA, the way the NBA, 848 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, if we really want to get into the 849 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: nitty gritty of it, like they literally have a lottery. 850 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: Guys don't even get to pick where they want to play, right, 851 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: they got you know, like what other profession like that, 852 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: Like Jason, you want to get into journalism, but you 853 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: don't get to working facts. You gotta go work at 854 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: wherever because they had the worst ratings last year, so 855 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: they get to you know, they get to pick the 856 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: best talent. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Like no 857 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: other industry operates like that. Like Google is not like, 858 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Google, you gotta get like the worst engineers 859 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: now because you had the best years. Like That's not 860 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: how it goes. So I understand guys saying, especially in 861 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: this a U world and culture, Like when I was 862 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: coming up in a you everything was regional, right, everything 863 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: was where you grew up. Those are the guys you 864 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: played with. Now these guys will get on these teams 865 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: in E y B or wherever. They're playing with guys 866 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: all across the country, the top premier talent. Why don't 867 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: you Why wouldn't you want to play with your friends? 868 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you want to You know, I work in 869 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. If I'm making a movie or a 870 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: TV show, why wouldn't I want to hire the best 871 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: talent and the best people to go make the best 872 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: product possible and have people that I like working with. 873 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: So this whole narrative that these guys gotta be happy 874 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: with whoever they're picked are selected, never been a fan 875 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: of So if I'm Donovan Mitchell, Quinn Snyder obviously just 876 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: stepping down. I don't know what the fate of the 877 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: franchise looks like. If they're not gonna give me a 878 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: saying who the next head coach is gonna be, then 879 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, I want to see what's cracking. And 880 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: you know, LA would be a great destination. He's the 881 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: great Purple and Gold New York too. I mean, there's 882 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: there's just spots with these guys. You know, there's players 883 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: like that that they want to go and who are 884 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: we to tell them not to do that? Yeah, someone 885 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: in the league texted me that Jason Gordon Hayward left Utah. Okay, 886 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: there's no way Donovan Mitchell staying in, And I was like, 887 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that. I forgot Gordon. They would 888 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: left for Boston, Um the other guy. You know, I 889 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: said overrated earlier for Kyrie. I still feel like Zach 890 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: Levine is the most underrated player in the league. I 891 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: just love everything about his game. He's so smooth, great dunker, 892 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: great three point shooter, like everything about him. I'm a 893 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: big Zach Levine fan, you think he stays in Chicago 894 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: moves on, I mean hopefully, you know, there's been rumors 895 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: and rumblings. I would be it'd be great to see 896 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: him in Los Angeles. Zach. You see a guy. I mean, 897 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: I've been a fan of Zac since high school. But 898 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: you know, when he came into u c l A 899 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: that freshman year, I don't really feel like he was 900 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: being utilized correctly, you know what I mean. You go 901 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: back and watch those game tapes and I'm like, this 902 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be one of the best players in 903 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: the NBA, And you know he's not. He's not playing 904 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: enough for my liking. But to see what he did 905 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: and is done in the league, you know, I mean 906 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: kind of transition from just being more than a dunker 907 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: to creating a whole offensive resume and package. Like, yeah, 908 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if he stayed in Chicago, I don't 909 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: know why he would want to leave. To me, that 910 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: bull squad, that's an exciting team, you know what I mean. Like, 911 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm playing wherever Caruso is at. Jimmy Caruso, 912 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: come on, so it doesn't get hurt. It's a whole 913 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: different it's a whole different outcome of the season. Alright, 914 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: just two more. Um. Has any NBA team reached out 915 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: to you to try to hire you? No, Surprisingly, I 916 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: don't know why. I think a lot of those teams 917 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: just don't like doing numbers and don't like being successful. 918 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: It would be what you wouldn't want to limit yourself 919 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: to one team anyway. That's but that's why I kind 920 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: of just I'm more of a mercenary. That's why I 921 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: stay and just do what I do. You know, I mean, 922 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: even like you know, I've been entertained by big companies 923 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, if I come here, i can't 924 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: talk like I want to talk, and I'm not gonna 925 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: be putting Twitter jail because I made a ref joke 926 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: or whatever is going on. So I've kind of carved 927 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: out a lane for myself and I'm super happy with 928 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, thankful for the companies that I work with. 929 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: Shout out to Wave, shout out to Fubo, shout out 930 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: to you know, everybody at Turner, NBA, Twitter, the whole crew, 931 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just gonna keep doing what I 932 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: want to do. I kind of carved in lane and 933 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: my thing now is like show this next generation to 934 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: people like this is a multibillion dollar industry. So you 935 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: think you're just tweeting, Like these tweets can lead to 936 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: a whole other thing, right, you know, are using social media. 937 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: You see it now with all these you know, TikTok 938 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: kids and I G kids that you know, they may 939 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: not be household, mainstream names, but these kids are making 940 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: millions of dollars a year doing what they love to do, 941 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: and they are now controlling currency. They are what you know, 942 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: kids want to be when they grow up. Now, they 943 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: want to be I G Star, they want to be 944 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: TikTok or so, you know, we kind of have this old, 945 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: get off my lawn perspective, you know, in this age 946 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: where we still think of celebrities like oh, the TV star, 947 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: the movie starting. Really it's like now this kid on 948 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: I G who just does dances, or this this girl 949 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: on TikTok who literally you know, does whatever, post pictures 950 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: of cakes she makes or whatever it is that. But 951 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: these are things that you know in society now when 952 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: those things used to be shielded and we didn't used 953 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: to get opportunities, these are things now that allow us 954 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: to kind of level the playing field. Alright, wrap it 955 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: up with this one. Obviously has to be l a centric. 956 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: Is Russell Westbrook on the Lakers roster for Game one 957 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: next year? And since he won't be, where will he 958 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: be playing? Look, I'm I'm a Rusk guy, I Tyler. 959 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: You know you seele Slander. I think he he he 960 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: showed it a lot of the blame last year. And 961 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: I think you know Darvin ham coming in. Darvin Haim 962 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: worked with the Bucks. My dad was a broadcast with 963 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: the Bucks. You know, Emmy Emmy Winner just has nothing 964 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: but amazing thing to say about Darvin and just kind 965 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: of what he brings from his coaching style and perspective. Look, 966 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: I think you know it's gonna be hard to trade Russ. 967 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: That just is what it is. Obviously, that contract, you know, 968 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: that forty seven mill whatever he's getting, that that's a 969 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: lot to ask anybody to take on. But I think 970 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: if Ruskin, you know, even Darby Haim saying the word 971 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: they talk about his sacrifice of Ruskin sacrifice, parts of 972 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: this game fit more into the framework of the team. 973 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: And that's a hard thing to ask. The guy who's 974 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: a former m v P, who's who's used to you know, running, 975 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: running the show, average and triple doubles, doing all that 976 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: type of stuff. But I feel like, as much as 977 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: we criticized Russ for last season, Anthony Davis didn't play 978 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: forty games, so I didn't play half the season. He's 979 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: the best player on the team. We can say Lebron 980 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: is and and I wouldn't argue with you, but A 981 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: d is put in that role now, at least for 982 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: the regular season. You need to carry the squad. You 983 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: got the young fresh legs. I'm about to be in 984 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: your twenty chief, like I'm not. You know, Lebron averaging thirty. 985 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: I was never excited or happy about that. It was 986 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: for me. It's like, this is just a waste of 987 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: a year. And yes, it's nice to see him getting 988 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: buckets and all that good stuff, but the amount that 989 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: he had to expand and the energy had to waste 990 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: this year would have been much better served. You know, 991 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: I A is healthy, the squad makes the playoffs and 992 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: who knows, you know, we saw that last year that 993 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: go against Phoenix as the seventh seed and he doesn't 994 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: get hurt in that series, which Sun fans are realizing 995 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: now that they've stuffered some injuries in this postseason. He 996 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: doesn't get hurting in that series. It's a completely different, 997 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: you know, situation going on. I don't do you think 998 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: this this year's Lakers team was as talented as the 999 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: one that year prior. I just don't know. I mean, 1000 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: I think they could have potentially been on that level. 1001 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: But you know, and I love Russ, but trading away 1002 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: guys like Casey, but they were just guys, you know, 1003 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: guy like k CP. For me, you know, he stepped 1004 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: up big time. He's a guy that you know, Lakers 1005 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: fans are the tourist for bullying, bullying players of greatness. 1006 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: He's a guy who took that Lakers fan bullying and 1007 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: made the most of it. You know, I was playing 1008 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: at a super high level in the postseason and the bubble, 1009 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: so it wasn't wasn't wasn't excited to see him go. 1010 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: To be real with you, I like, it's a guy 1011 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: that you know, Coup is another guy who was kind 1012 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: of growing into his own going into his own game. 1013 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it's just so many player We're 1014 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: trained so many players from one guy. For me, that's 1015 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,959 Speaker 1: always tough because now that one guy gets hurt whatever, 1016 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: it maybe you're just putting yourself at a bat sit, 1017 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: especially guy that of growing developing as NBA level players. 1018 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: But the end of the day, I'm not a GM. 1019 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: You're not a GM. That's I would love to be 1020 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: a GM. I would love to I mean, that would 1021 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: be the most fun job. Obviously, it's highly stressful. Now. 1022 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: I I am a minority owner in a basketball and 1023 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: a soccer team and I don't play GM, but I'm 1024 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: in on the conversations with some of these guys. It's awesome. 1025 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: It is a great job, dude. So Australian basketball team 1026 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: sorry New Zealand and New Zealand Breakers. They might have 1027 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: two guys drafted. Um, we bought into the team. I 1028 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: believe it was well. I sold the website. I saw 1029 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: the website a while back, and I never really spent 1030 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: any of the money. Uh. And then a soccer team 1031 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: in Lega MX and they're going through the off season 1032 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: right now. So again I don't want anybody to think 1033 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm making decisions, but I'm just being in those discussions. 1034 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: Like for the New Zealand Breakers, like they played in 1035 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: against the Grizzlies pre pandemic, and we went to a 1036 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,959 Speaker 1: dinner after the game and you're sitting there with the coach, 1037 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, and the other owners, and we're like literally 1038 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: talking to the coach about how, uh you know this 1039 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: player is going to fit in with the team, and 1040 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: uh you know the team was kind of veterans and 1041 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: this guy was a young star. The potential he's now 1042 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: in the NBA. It's like, just hearing these conversations is amazing. 1043 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: I offer nothing, you know, I'm just silent listening. But Josiah, 1044 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: that would be fun, would it not? To be part 1045 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: owner of a team. I gotta give my bag up, 1046 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: like you, Bro, I forgot about I don't think it's 1047 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: flourishing like the Twitter money you're getting. But Twitter's code. 1048 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: But you already know Twitter. Twitter's code, and it's good 1049 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: enough to get get get things going right now. I 1050 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: can't buy no team yet, but when I do, minority 1051 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: a very small minority owner. Bro. That's all all right, 1052 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: we'll wrap up on that. Josiah, congrats on all the success. 1053 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, jeez, we talked to you what two years ago? 1054 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: The next time we talked to you, I mean, geez, 1055 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: you might be ahead of NBA, Twitter Sports. You might 1056 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: be working for a team. Um, I forgot to ask 1057 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: who's winning the title next year? Clips Lakers Lakers with 1058 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, Bro, you know, the Lakers are gonna pull 1059 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: pull the trade out of their ass and get you know, 1060 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: a CP level trade that's not gonna give v towed. 1061 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: Their gonna be mad and be like, okay, Wow, the 1062 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: squad is back and they get Zach Levine. Listen. I 1063 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: like that because I'll be honest. When you just we're 1064 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: talking about the Bucks and Darvin Ham and your dad, 1065 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: I started thinking, oh my gosh, he must know something. 1066 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: They're not trading Russ And now you're coming around to 1067 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: Zach Lavine. I like that. I can go anyway. The 1068 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: Bulls gotta love Russell Westbrook right for a year, then 1069 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: you can uh you know, his player option after forty 1070 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: seven mill he's done, and then you can go spend 1071 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: on free agents. Right, that's a smart move. We're gonna see. Oh, Josiah, 1072 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: I like is almost here. You already know my favorite 1073 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: time of year. Go listen to all his podcasts and 1074 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: Gilbert A read. I wonder if Gilbert Reins would ever 1075 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: talk to me. Probably not, I'm not a big enough deal, 1076 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: but uh, comprats man, Thanks a lot for taking the time. 1077 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 1078 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 1079 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I 1080 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 1081 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching 1082 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: the game. He's making money while you do it. Here's 1083 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: your best bat great great stuff from Josiah Johnson. A 1084 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: good dude, um. And you know I do a lot 1085 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: of radio interviews. Obviously, I had a radio show on 1086 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: weekends for six years, and over the time, over the 1087 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: course of that long six years, I feel like my 1088 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: act was a little polished. So now when I go 1089 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: on radio shows, I know when to talk and not 1090 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: ramble and stop and just listening to Josiah Johnson. Basically 1091 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: he has become so clean when it comes to speaking. 1092 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: He knows exactly his points, he backs it up and 1093 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: then he stops like that's how it's done. It's just 1094 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: a great interview. Hope you guys liked it. Quickly, we'll 1095 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: do some best bets for tonight Game three. It feels 1096 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: like a massive game is almost more for these Celtics 1097 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: than the Warriors. And I know some of you are 1098 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: gonna be like, why the Celtics, Well, they have home 1099 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: court advantage. If they can win these two three one, 1100 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: they're in great shape. If they don't win game three, 1101 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: Golden State gets home court advantage back. Golden State has 1102 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: been to the finals before. They're far more experienced when 1103 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: it comes to these matters. I don't see them getting rattled. 1104 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: And I hate to do this, guys, but I'm gonna flip. 1105 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Warriors in three and a half. Um. 1106 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 1: I also like the under here. I think this is 1107 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: gonna be kind of an ugly defensive battle. If you 1108 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 1: watched how Golden State kind of mucked it up with 1109 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: Draymond Green pushing the envelope and um, young Gary Payton's son, 1110 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, also really playing tight in your girl defense. 1111 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: They slowed it down. Boston had its lowest point total 1112 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: in the entire playoffs. Obviously they won't be that bad, 1113 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: but I see Boston punching back with as much fire defensively. 1114 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: Maybe Grant Williams has some goonery, has some Draymond in him. 1115 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: Somebody is gonna have to step it up and really 1116 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 1: kind of forced the issue getting Boston to play tough 1117 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: and not kind of get punked. I'm on the under. 1118 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm on the Warriors plus three and a half. And 1119 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess if you're looking at a player prop, I 1120 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: know this is gonna be popular, but I'm gonna buy 1121 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson's stock at rock bottom. It is bargain basement. 1122 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: You know, you could get it as cheap as you want. 1123 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: Whether it's Clay Thompson three pointers, I'll check the price 1124 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: on that, whether it's Clay Thompson points. This feels like 1125 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: a bounce back game. He of course said this week, 1126 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm fired up. Even though I went forward for nineteen, 1127 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: we still won the game. You know, that's the positive 1128 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: attitude that I kind of like to see in a 1129 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: guy who you know he's been here before. And make 1130 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: no mistake, Clay will have a game where he goes off. 1131 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's this one or Game six. 1132 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,479 Speaker 1: He'll wait for that, but he's gonna have a game 1133 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: where he he kind of becomes the old Clay and all. 1134 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna take his seven. His point total, Folks has 1135 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: plummeted to eighteen and a half and it's shaded. There's 1136 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: juice on it. Minus one so that to me is 1137 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: a sharp play. Clay over eighteen and a half points. 1138 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: His threes are uh two and a half. Oh my gosh, 1139 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: but there's a ton of juice minus one eight for 1140 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: Claytowns that hit three threes. He could do that in 1141 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: the first quarter for all we know. Now, Steph Curry 1142 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: O Game one was three and a half threes he hit. 1143 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: I think he hit six in the first half or something, 1144 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: first quarter, I'm sorry. And then game two they bumped 1145 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: up the four and a half. It's still four and 1146 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 1: a half for game three. That does feel a little 1147 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: bit high. You know, he's gonna be the focal point, 1148 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: So I would I would pass on Curry. I'm gonna say, Clay, 1149 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: if you want points, points, if you want threes, minus 1150 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: one eight on the juice, Like, honestly, are you laying 1151 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: a hundred eighty eight bucks Tod Now, I like the bet, 1152 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: but I would lean toward points given that juice. So 1153 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: Warriors in the under Clay Thompson game. Thanks for listening. 1154 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.