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Speaker 1: Danny McCray and Barry Church. Gentlemen, how we doing McCraw,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, man, I'm good man. Just another
Speaker 1: week of quarantine for me. Man, just in the house,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at these same windows, searching for new
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen Sons of Anarchy, but I did watch
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Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Yes, the Justice System, huh so
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Speaker 1: are you. No, I'm back in the d man, I'm
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Speaker 1: you guys raised a really good question. I want to
Speaker 1: dive into that. Which side of the ball do you
Speaker 1: think we'll have a tougher time catching up? Because they're
Speaker 1: not gonna be OTAs or mini camp. Katy was probing
Speaker 1: go straight into training camp here, it's gonna be the
Speaker 1: offense or the defense? Church go ahead. For me, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's gonna have to be the defense that's
Speaker 1: gonna have to play a lot of catching up. And
Speaker 1: I say that because on the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: they didn't really lose a lot of their main tight talent. Yes,
Speaker 1: they lost Randall Cobb, but they were able to fill
Speaker 1: that with Cde Lamb and hopefully he's able to fill
Speaker 1: in those shoes greatly. But you know, they still have
Speaker 1: the same offensive coordinator and Kellen Moore. They still have
Speaker 1: the same pieces of dynamic pieces that can make them
Speaker 1: a super offense out there. So I'd like the offense
Speaker 1: with a couple maybe terminology might be different a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I think they'll have an easier job transitioning with
Speaker 1: this new coaching staff. And then started the season being
Speaker 1: so the late as it is. And on the defensi
Speaker 1: side of all, I mean they lost Byron Jones. I
Speaker 1: mean they lost some guys on the key guys on
Speaker 1: the defensive line. You know, we've seen, you know, the
Speaker 1: linebackers took a step back as far as their players concerned.
Speaker 1: So they got a step it up, and so I
Speaker 1: think they they'll have And they also have a whole
Speaker 1: new defensive playbook, so they'll have a lot to catching
Speaker 1: up to do. They weren't able to be around each
Speaker 1: other this spring and really get after kind of play
Speaker 1: off the strengths and weaknesses of other players. So I
Speaker 1: think we'll have a lot of catching up to do.
Speaker 1: The terminology will be different, but they do have those
Speaker 1: leaders leaders on the defence side of the ball to
Speaker 1: get it done. I just think we'll have to do
Speaker 1: a lot of catching up to the officer side of
Speaker 1: the ball once the season begins. Yeah, for me, I
Speaker 1: go with both reasons that this would be unpopular amongst
Speaker 1: US three. But I think the offense will be okay
Speaker 1: because they have so many playmakers on that offense and
Speaker 1: I think that they can cater cater that offense to
Speaker 1: them with a less amount of time, right because you've
Speaker 1: got so many big, big time playmakers out there. And
Speaker 1: on defense, I think it'll be the same. I think
Speaker 1: that we'll be able to get a real rush going
Speaker 1: and help out our secondary. So for me, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be special teams. I think we got a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that we saw last year the effect that special
Speaker 1: teams can have on the game when you don't have
Speaker 1: that experience from players and coaches on there. And I
Speaker 1: think that you'll have a lot of new guys coming
Speaker 1: in playing positions that they hadn't played before on hunt
Speaker 1: and on kickoff and on punt return, and I think
Speaker 1: you'll see some some crucial mistakes if we aren't able
Speaker 1: to get out there and get that stuff taken care
Speaker 1: of before the season starts. So I think if you
Speaker 1: look at special teams, could it could be a problem
Speaker 1: for us if we don't if we don't have enough
Speaker 1: time to get that stuff taught and corrected. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question, mcrag. Let me ask you real
Speaker 1: quick question. Do you feel like we the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: done enough addressing the special teams as far as bringing
Speaker 1: in players that are strictly special team pieces that can
Speaker 1: that can basically promote the special teams unit to being
Speaker 1: better than last year? Do you think we made enough
Speaker 1: moves in the off season for that, I mean, compared
Speaker 1: to what we've done in the past. I do. I
Speaker 1: believe that we kind of focus a little bit more
Speaker 1: on bringing some guys the end that are just specifically
Speaker 1: special teams players, and that is more than we had
Speaker 1: done in the past. Most of the time it was
Speaker 1: our own undrafted free agents that we ended up keeping
Speaker 1: and turning into special teams guys. So I think that
Speaker 1: there's been more of a focus on the special teams
Speaker 1: and I think that that will show a little bit more.
Speaker 1: My worry is just you know, when you got guys
Speaker 1: who don't know how to kick, step in and block
Speaker 1: for guys who are rushing on punt, those guys can
Speaker 1: those things can become big issues, all right. So mccraig,
Speaker 1: here's something that's very interesting, just based off what you
Speaker 1: said about special teams, is what is Mike McCarthy's philosophy
Speaker 1: on using starters on special teams? And I bring this
Speaker 1: up because when Bill Parcells was here, he had guys
Speaker 1: like like Brady James, who was a starting linebacker. Jason
Speaker 1: went the tight start in Titan. He put these guys
Speaker 1: out there those special teams. And Lawrence Taylor played special
Speaker 1: teams for for Bill Parcels when he was up with
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, and and UH and Carl Bank.
Speaker 1: So what's what do you think Mike McCarthy's philosophy is
Speaker 1: going to be in terms of using guys who are startings.
Speaker 1: I think I think times have changed and I don't
Speaker 1: think uh, those starting guys are as open to being
Speaker 1: on special teams as they used to be. So I
Speaker 1: think it'll be a lot more pushback and I don't
Speaker 1: think that he will will will push very hard to
Speaker 1: get some of those start plays out there. So I
Speaker 1: don't think we'll see very many starting guys on special
Speaker 1: teams this season besides being a punt returner. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's crazy, ok go ahead. No no, no, no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: Church ahead, because I'll follow it up. I'll follow. So
Speaker 1: go ahead, Erica. Oh no, I was just I was
Speaker 1: just pigging back and off of you, just saying that's
Speaker 1: a that's a great statement, because I mean, back in
Speaker 1: the day, you had if you think about like the
Speaker 1: Ravens of two thousand, you had Ed Reid and all
Speaker 1: those guys coming off the edges and blocking punts, and
Speaker 1: you had like guys like Dante Haul back in the
Speaker 1: day returning kickoffs and starting receivers. So I just think
Speaker 1: it's tough that times have changed like that to where
Speaker 1: you know, starters are kind of like, I'm strictly at
Speaker 1: running back. I'm not messing with those special teams. But
Speaker 1: I remember back in the day that used to be
Speaker 1: a huge part of the game. But I think it's
Speaker 1: just kind of change a little bit, all right. So
Speaker 1: so my next question here, Danny going back into special teams.
Speaker 1: Goad thing. This is a really good critical question that
Speaker 1: you've raised here. If you're John Fossil, the new special
Speaker 1: teams coach, how do you use training camp with your
Speaker 1: special teams guys not really truly knowing Okay, who's gonna
Speaker 1: make the team? What guys do? I use me? How
Speaker 1: do you go about taking a roster of ninety that
Speaker 1: you're gonna cut down and deciding and who you spend
Speaker 1: your time and putting on special teams to see who
Speaker 1: can do the job, Because I mean, really, do you
Speaker 1: want to have guys out here running down here that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get cut that eventually it's gonna be wasting
Speaker 1: reps on, right? I mean, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: a collective comes in with the coaching staff, right. So,
Speaker 1: knowing now that you don't have OTAs and many camp,
Speaker 1: when you get into training camp, you have to have
Speaker 1: some type of idea of who's going to be on
Speaker 1: the team, right, So you have to get together as
Speaker 1: those coaches and meet and say, hey, look, we know
Speaker 1: that this guy has a ninety percent chance of making
Speaker 1: a team, so make sure that you kind of cater
Speaker 1: to this guy, ain't hav him on the teams, and
Speaker 1: get them some reps because this is one of the
Speaker 1: guys that you may have to depend on when you
Speaker 1: get into the season. Now, the other guys will get
Speaker 1: some reps, but since they're more of long shots, they
Speaker 1: will get probably less reps than than than those guys
Speaker 1: that were already eyed as people who would make the roster.
Speaker 1: So they just got to come together and and point
Speaker 1: out guys who they believe will be on the roster. Okay,
Speaker 1: got you. And for fans out there that are thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, they're tallas special teams, it's boring. No. Look,
Speaker 1: this is a very big part of why the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were not a team that made the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: Their special teams was troacous. And the fact is, when
Speaker 1: you talk about all three phases offensivens too special teams
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys basically win in every game last year,
Speaker 1: losing that battle. So you're trying to try to find
Speaker 1: a way to win two two phases instead of trying
Speaker 1: to win three phases. That New England game, the special
Speaker 1: teams lost the game. So we're talking about a topic
Speaker 1: and a subject that needs to be addressed. Barry, you
Speaker 1: made this team as a free agent rookie, and so
Speaker 1: did you, Danny. But Barry go back to how you
Speaker 1: made the team was through special teams. And I look
Speaker 1: at a kid like Darius Anderson running back out of TCU,
Speaker 1: free agent running back, he's got to make an impact
Speaker 1: on special teams if he's going to make this football team.
Speaker 1: Because they've got Ezekiela, They've got twenty power. So for
Speaker 1: some guys, this truly is going to be the way
Speaker 1: they make the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be the way I mean, if I take it back
Speaker 1: to when I was a rookie, um, I had, you know,
Speaker 1: Gerald Sinson balls in front of me, Alan Ball, Patrick Watkins.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of betterness that were proven up there.
Speaker 1: So I knew for me to get on this team,
Speaker 1: especially being undrafted, I had to had to bust my
Speaker 1: butt on special teams. I had to become best friends
Speaker 1: with Joe Decommis on the special teams and basically saying
Speaker 1: I'll run through a wall for you if you just
Speaker 1: give me a chance. And I was able to do that.
Speaker 1: And then later on the defensive play came along and
Speaker 1: I was able to get reps on defense. But for
Speaker 1: those undrafted guys knowing that they got a steep climb
Speaker 1: ahead of him to even crack the lineup. I mean
Speaker 1: they got up become, you know, best friends with a
Speaker 1: special teams guy and just want to run through the
Speaker 1: wall for him. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't sound popular,
Speaker 1: but that's the easiest way to get onto a team.
Speaker 1: All right. There's another topic we spoke about here, and
Speaker 1: this is gonna be very interesting because I love this um.
Speaker 1: Which starting defensive rookie? Do we think, as she said,
Speaker 1: which rookie will be a start? Which cat was defensive rookie?
Speaker 1: Do you think that end up being a starting football player.
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Danny, Oh, easily, Diggs. He's coming in.
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. Byron Jones is out of there. They need
Speaker 1: to fill that spot. And we talked previously about some
Speaker 1: guys that are already on the roster and will be
Speaker 1: up for some serious competition to keep their starting jobs.
Speaker 1: And I think dis being picked up in the second
Speaker 1: round as a clear indicator that's he's vying for that
Speaker 1: starting position. I think he'll be able to get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick in the secondary on this one, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough one for me because you
Speaker 1: know Barron Jones. He was a long rangy corner, very
Speaker 1: great physical when it came to pressing at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and he was a great man in man corner.
Speaker 1: And they see a lot of that in the Trayvon
Speaker 1: Digs guy or Yea Treylon's Digs who's out there at
Speaker 1: cornerback They got from Alabama, but they also had that,
Speaker 1: and I think I believe his name is Reggie Robinson
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. At corners that they got in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. He's a long ranging guy, can run
Speaker 1: with anybody, and he's great pressed the man press, the
Speaker 1: pressing man, and man cover. So I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a competition between those two to crack the lineup.
Speaker 1: I don't feel as though Cheetah going into the season
Speaker 1: and to be the starter. I think he'll start out
Speaker 1: of camp as it starter, just because he knows you
Speaker 1: know that they know him as a player. But I
Speaker 1: think overall one of these rookies might supplant him. And
Speaker 1: I think I'm born with a surprise kid in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. I mean before we've seen fourth rounds before.
Speaker 1: They're scrappy, they kind of get the game and they're
Speaker 1: kind of hungry for us, So I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: him over Treyvon Diggs. But it's gonna be a tough
Speaker 1: competition at corner, all right. I want to take you
Speaker 1: guys way back in the Cowboys, way back, but she
Speaker 1: ll wave Phillips era. They used a first round pick
Speaker 1: on Mike Jenkins out of South Florida, in a fifth
Speaker 1: round pick out of Boise State, and you guys know
Speaker 1: very well Orlando Scandrid, and at first, you know, Jenkins
Speaker 1: was given the opportunities and he was the guy that
Speaker 1: got pushed and he was a starter. But over time
Speaker 1: we saw Skandro just took over and both guys ended
Speaker 1: up being, you know, productive players for the Cowboys, but
Speaker 1: Scandrid kind of longer tenure with them. And when you
Speaker 1: bring up Reggie Robinson the way he did Church, that
Speaker 1: just made me think about that that, you know, those
Speaker 1: two quarters and the careers they had with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But I'll say I believe in what Danny is saying.
Speaker 1: Diggs is going to be the guy, because look, if
Speaker 1: Diggs is not a starter at some point in this year,
Speaker 1: either Cheeto's gonna be playing really, really well or Diggs
Speaker 1: let us down. Because this is a guy we allays
Speaker 1: considered to be a first round to pick for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at seventeen and he ends up getting to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the second round. So I'm expecting big things
Speaker 1: from from treyvon dis I really am. I think Trey
Speaker 1: Diggs has got to be an impact player and a
Speaker 1: guy who starts. And if Reggie Robinson can also, you know,
Speaker 1: come along the way and be a starter too, then
Speaker 1: you're talking about one heck of a class. If you
Speaker 1: get two quarters that are starting out of a draft
Speaker 1: class in a second in fourth round, that means you
Speaker 1: really does some bit work. Yeah, I mean that devil
Speaker 1: go hats off to Will McClay right there, And that
Speaker 1: was a great comparison you made with the Mike Jenkis
Speaker 1: and Orlando's Gander, both similar type guys, and Jenks got
Speaker 1: all the first early opportunities and he was able to
Speaker 1: He was able to capitalize a lot of those opportunities,
Speaker 1: but as we saw over time, Scandal was just able
Speaker 1: to take it and have a longer and more productive career.
Speaker 1: And I see a lot of similarities between Digs and Robinson,
Speaker 1: So hopefully they'll have a great competition and We'll see
Speaker 1: you when the best player comes out. But I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna slide towards Robinson on this one with that comparison,
Speaker 1: Who's who Which one of those guys fit better in
Speaker 1: the slot, because you know, Orlando's career was a little
Speaker 1: bit longer because he was almost able to master covering
Speaker 1: in the slot and playing that playing that nickel position.
Speaker 1: So this is true. So would you say the fourth
Speaker 1: round guys gonna be the guy who's going to be
Speaker 1: in the slot because you know George Lewis is in there,
Speaker 1: he makes some plays. Yeah, I don't think any of
Speaker 1: them are gonna supplant George Lewis in there as a slot.
Speaker 1: I mean, he reminds me a lot of Orlando as
Speaker 1: far as just being feisty and just being that prototypical Nickel.
Speaker 1: So I see him staying in there for the long ride.
Speaker 1: But on the outside, I mean, I can see both
Speaker 1: of them kind of supplanting Brown and the Lousian Nickel.
Speaker 1: But like I said, that that could be, that would
Speaker 1: be a heck of a draft players, and we I
Speaker 1: had to go with New York now and the hell
Speaker 1: of a draft class. But we'll see. So you said,
Speaker 1: that you send the two stars are supposed to teams. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, and then they could be gunners you know,
Speaker 1: Handti Okay rivers. He got two two starters losing their
Speaker 1: jobs this season. I'm telling you go back and you
Speaker 1: heard it here first. What we talked about with Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis just right there. You know his ability to cover
Speaker 1: the slide and you must have you know, you must
Speaker 1: have a guy who can cover slot, which you really
Speaker 1: need too when you start thinking about injuries. But how
Speaker 1: much do we think that Jordan Lewis can excel under
Speaker 1: Al Harris, the new Cowboys secondary coach, Because we all
Speaker 1: knew that Chris Richard, the previous secondary coach, really like
Speaker 1: bigger guys, and the thought process was that Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: wasn't getting as much run because he didn't fit the
Speaker 1: prototypical height that Chris wanted. Maybe this is a better
Speaker 1: opportunity for George Lewis to excel with Al Harris. Here.
Speaker 1: I can see that happening. I'm mean, especially at the
Speaker 1: slot corner. You know, I know they like their big corners,
Speaker 1: big physical corners out there on the outside because there's
Speaker 1: not really a lot of wiggle room that the receivers
Speaker 1: have out there, But on the slot, I mean, you
Speaker 1: got all those quick Beasley type receivers, you gotta have
Speaker 1: somebody that can match up with them. So I feel
Speaker 1: like George Lewis fits pots typically, you know perfectly. You
Speaker 1: got the right size, he got great quicks. He's not
Speaker 1: the fastest in the world, but either are all the
Speaker 1: slot receivers, So I think he fits that perfectly. But
Speaker 1: you know, as far as the outside, I think you
Speaker 1: definitely have to have some size to you, and I
Speaker 1: don't think he fits that outside corner round, so that's
Speaker 1: where I put you know, Digs and Robinson in there.
Speaker 1: But overall, I think he fits perfectly in that slot. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: same here. I think the reason why those slot corners
Speaker 1: are are the way they are is because they're quick,
Speaker 1: they have a good field for the game, their instincts
Speaker 1: are above because some of the outside corners, and I
Speaker 1: think him being able to disguise and blitz and play
Speaker 1: those zones and then also make plays on the ball
Speaker 1: like we've seen him do when he got into the game,
Speaker 1: I think that will help him make sell at that
Speaker 1: slot position. So I think we'll see big things from
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis this season, all right, So we both feel
Speaker 1: that all three of us as they feel that the
Speaker 1: defense is going to have to catch up to where
Speaker 1: the offense is based on not having offseason workouts. Now,
Speaker 1: since we're going and saying the offense under Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: is going to have an edge because they aren't going
Speaker 1: to change too much of it here, how good of
Speaker 1: a play caller do we think Kellen Moore can develop
Speaker 1: into in the National Football League? Start with you, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think it can be a good play caller. I
Speaker 1: think the biggest knock on him last season was those
Speaker 1: slow starts and him being able to get that offense
Speaker 1: going at the beginning of the game. We saw that
Speaker 1: he was able to draw some things coming out of
Speaker 1: halftime and later into the second quarter. But he has
Speaker 1: to be able to get those guys going out of
Speaker 1: the gate, that first fifteen play script that coaches usually
Speaker 1: have to get their offense rolling. I think he needs
Speaker 1: to just work on that, and if he's able to
Speaker 1: get that done, I think he'll be excellent play caller.
Speaker 1: Same year. I think um as this. I think, as
Speaker 1: you know, he's getting into a second year as full
Speaker 1: time play caller and I think he'll he'll develop into
Speaker 1: a better play caller. Um. I just think, like you said,
Speaker 1: Danny and a spur fifteen, I think he has to
Speaker 1: just develop a little bit more creativity. UM. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, during last season, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: let's run Zeke on first down. Let's run Zeke on
Speaker 1: first down. He's kind of like running into a brick wall.
Speaker 1: And the running plays, you know, it was kind of
Speaker 1: Runzick up the middle, all right, let's run Zick to
Speaker 1: the edge. There was no kind of counters or creativity
Speaker 1: to it. And so I just think if he can
Speaker 1: develop a little bit more creativity, especially with the wide
Speaker 1: receivers he has. I mean, we've seen last time u
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper was getting locked up against you know, the
Speaker 1: Gilmore's of the world a better corner. So let's, you know,
Speaker 1: stack him up behind another rider Saiver, Let's put him
Speaker 1: in motion a little bit just to get their playmakers
Speaker 1: open and a better opportunity. So I think he couldn't
Speaker 1: be a better play caller this year. He just had
Speaker 1: to develop a little bit more creativity. But I think
Speaker 1: he could be pretty good overall. Barry stay stay there
Speaker 1: on Cooper because I go back to that Rams playoff
Speaker 1: game and Cooper ended up catching once. He was a
Speaker 1: twenty three or thirty three yard touchdown pass and he
Speaker 1: caught it out of the slot, and he was just
Speaker 1: giving the Rams DBS issues out of the slot. And
Speaker 1: talking with the former NFL coach defends the coach he
Speaker 1: kept telling me. He says, why don't the Cowboys utilize
Speaker 1: Cooper more out of the slot? Yeah, he's a guy
Speaker 1: who can play on the outside, he says, But on
Speaker 1: the inside, as big as strong as he is, he
Speaker 1: can give some of these smaller slot dvs some serious
Speaker 1: trouble here. So what are your thoughts about being able
Speaker 1: to use him differently under Mike McCarthy in a way
Speaker 1: that he wasn't really utilized under head coach Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be great for a Marie Cooper,
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be great for Dak Press
Speaker 1: about to have McCarthy's offense in here. If you look
Speaker 1: back and what he did with Jordy Nelson in his
Speaker 1: Green Bay days, Jordy would play on the outside, he
Speaker 1: would play on the inside. He was motioning left and right.
Speaker 1: There are finding ways to get him open. I think
Speaker 1: they'll do that same type of thing with Amari Cooper here.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, when you put him in
Speaker 1: the slot, he's a he's a lot more room to
Speaker 1: and he's going against smaller corners. If you're on the outside,
Speaker 1: and you're usually you're bigger, physical, longer corners who can
Speaker 1: kind of shut you out if they get a hand
Speaker 1: on you, because there's not a lot of wiggle room.
Speaker 1: But in that slot, you have about ten yards it's
Speaker 1: just open space, and if that guy misses on you
Speaker 1: at the beginning, you have, you know, open field for days.
Speaker 1: So I think they'll get a little bit more creative
Speaker 1: with that and getting him the ball. They might put
Speaker 1: him in some stacks, some type of option type routes
Speaker 1: where he can have an opportunity to basically get a
Speaker 1: free release off the ball so that it just happened
Speaker 1: to go against that corner one on one all day.
Speaker 1: So I think we'll see that a little bit more
Speaker 1: creativity from Kelly Moore. But putting him in the slot,
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a great idea because he has
Speaker 1: a speed to separate, he's big and physical against these
Speaker 1: smaller corners and he can just outman them. So I
Speaker 1: think putting them in a slot would be a great
Speaker 1: opportunity for this Cowboys office. Yeah, and the piggyback of Church.
Speaker 1: It's usually a lot harder to double the slot receiver,
Speaker 1: especially on first and second down. It's easier when you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be at the X or the Z
Speaker 1: because you got a corner in the safety that can
Speaker 1: get over the top. When you have to. When you
Speaker 1: have guys on the inside planning to run, and then
Speaker 1: you also have to be able to play play action
Speaker 1: and play the pass, it's just a little bit harder
Speaker 1: to account for somebody in the slot, or even get
Speaker 1: two or three guys to get over there and try
Speaker 1: to play combo coverage on them. So I think he'll
Speaker 1: get more openings if they put him in the slot,
Speaker 1: and he have more opportunities to make those big plays
Speaker 1: like he think against the rounds. All Right, this is
Speaker 1: where I want to rely on you guys as former
Speaker 1: NFL players here. So here comes a new head coach
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy, who's got an offensive coordinator Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: who's going to call the plays Coordinay McCarthy. But they've
Speaker 1: never worked together. How much coaching does McCarthy have to
Speaker 1: do with Kellen Moore to get him where he wants
Speaker 1: him to be. What type of growing pains do you
Speaker 1: think we'll see from a head coach and the coordinator,
Speaker 1: guys who've never worked together. I'll start with your church.
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot of growing pains. I
Speaker 1: mean usually that's when you have the spring for OTAs
Speaker 1: you have many camps just to get a feel for
Speaker 1: one another, especially as your first time working together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has worked with this offense before, so he
Speaker 1: has a better feel for the player and I think
Speaker 1: that's where McCarthy's gonna kind of lean on him. You know,
Speaker 1: how is this player react to this type of coaching
Speaker 1: and that type of coaching. But as far as the
Speaker 1: play calling together, they've never worked together. They've never been
Speaker 1: able to put McCarthy's system to the field and see
Speaker 1: how the players react to it. So I think there'll
Speaker 1: be a lot of growing pains. Hopefully they'll be able
Speaker 1: to work through these quickly in training camp because we
Speaker 1: know the season will be right around the corner if
Speaker 1: it started on time, So hopefully they'll be able to
Speaker 1: work through these things. But seeing as though hopefully the
Speaker 1: terminology will be pretty much the same with Kellen's offense.
Speaker 1: The players will be able to pretty much translate it
Speaker 1: quickly and get going. But I think there will be
Speaker 1: a little bit of growing pains going forward. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this. I really, honestly just hope that they've
Speaker 1: been talking and meeting and doing FaceTime and zoom and
Speaker 1: they've been founding a way to simplify this offense, especially
Speaker 1: for training camp in the first few weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: because if you try to come in and input the
Speaker 1: entire offensive playbook, there are growing pains and the yelling
Speaker 1: and the cursing on the sideline will be very visible
Speaker 1: because it will happen when they first get out there,
Speaker 1: like you can't do it. So hopefully they simplified it
Speaker 1: and they're both on the same page about what should
Speaker 1: be called, what players they want to try to get in,
Speaker 1: what positions, and they just start off the season running
Speaker 1: a few of those things in this grow to the
Speaker 1: playbook as they go throughout Week seventeen. All right, you
Speaker 1: check it out the players Lounge. I am KNWI Scruggs,
Speaker 1: a long time report of the Cowboys, joined by four
Speaker 1: by two former Dallas Cowboys defensive acts, Danny McCray and
Speaker 1: Barry Church. Still to come on the show, we recap
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Speaker 1: a long time Cowboys reporter, joined by former Cowboys defensive
Speaker 1: back at Danny mccrege and former Cowboys defensive back Barry Church.
Speaker 1: All Right, we've got breaking news just coming down from
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Juneteenth, June tenth. The NFL says
Speaker 1: they are going to close their offices and designate it
Speaker 1: as a company holiday. Juneteenth is a celebration of the
Speaker 1: end of the Civil War. Now it's celebrated down here
Speaker 1: in Texas, and it has been for years. The Civil
Speaker 1: War ended in April, okay, first week in April, but
Speaker 1: a lot of the black slaves who lived in Texas
Speaker 1: didn't find out about it until until June, and so
Speaker 1: June nineteenth. Juneteenth is a day of celebration where people
Speaker 1: down here in Texas at barbecues and church. I know
Speaker 1: you're from the Pittsburgh area, Danny, you're from Texas. Som
Speaker 1: day something you grew up thank a little show. Now
Speaker 1: we got we got your daddy, go ahead? Oh oh yeah, man?
Speaker 1: Uh so yeah. Down here and in the great state
Speaker 1: of Texas, in the great city of Houston, it's it's
Speaker 1: a big day, man. It's it's people all out at
Speaker 1: the car wash, all their favorite restaurants, barbequeing crawfish, doing
Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's it's a huge day out here.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that the NFL is recognizing it as such.
Speaker 1: And I will be celebrating in my front yard this year.
Speaker 1: All right. So, so for so for you church, was
Speaker 1: did you know about it growing up in the Pittsburgh area.
Speaker 1: Was it just something you heard of what you got
Speaker 1: down here to the cowboys from Texas? Yeah, I didn't really.
Speaker 1: I didn't really hear because there was nothing. There was
Speaker 1: no type, you know, big celebrations or anything like that
Speaker 1: up north in Pittsburgh. For junt I didn't really hear
Speaker 1: about it until I got down here and I was
Speaker 1: playing with the Cowboys, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people with the Cowboys while my teammates were from Texas,
Speaker 1: and they kind of looked at me, cranzy. He's like,
Speaker 1: you don't know nothing about this? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I just didn't know anything about it. So up north,
Speaker 1: it's night. You know. I guess it's not really a
Speaker 1: big holiday, but definitely learned about it when I got
Speaker 1: down here. For sure. Search you came to a crowfits
Speaker 1: boil let the house for Juneteenth. Yeah, I'm gonna say, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I like this. I like this, and it really is
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I'm glad the NFL is doing this because
Speaker 1: it gives an opportunity to let more people know outside
Speaker 1: of Texas, um, exactly what Juneteenth is and that um,
Speaker 1: you know people today. You got these cell phones here, man,
Speaker 1: So yeah, we these cell phones. Bool. We just get
Speaker 1: stuff instantly, and we just think that, you know, we
Speaker 1: just had this assumption that everyone knew or that Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: the day that General Lee surrendered to Grant An Aplomatics courthouse, Bool,
Speaker 1: everything was good. Everybody drop your weapons. No, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like that. It wasn't like that at all. So I
Speaker 1: love the fact that what the NFL is doing is
Speaker 1: bringing awareness to this holiday and that they're going to
Speaker 1: close their offices and educate more people about it. And
Speaker 1: I think it's something that when they have the rookie
Speaker 1: seminars and the the ability to let other folks know, Okay, hey, look,
Speaker 1: this is what's going on now. At the same time,
Speaker 1: and you guys know this very much. Um, June nineteenth
Speaker 1: is not a time where people are really working anyway.
Speaker 1: This is when most teams, players and coaches are away
Speaker 1: on vacation as they get ready to go to training camps.
Speaker 1: Would I would go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead, yeah,
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Um being playing in Chicago
Speaker 1: and then playing in Dallas and seeing how much more
Speaker 1: on the business side things that Dallas has gone on.
Speaker 1: The office in Dallas is often, uh, pretty busy compared
Speaker 1: to other teams in the league. So I think it's
Speaker 1: bigger for some teams and more it's more important that
Speaker 1: for some teams that this day is being considered a
Speaker 1: holiday than others. So the Cowboys usually office will be
Speaker 1: booming and stuff with a lot of stuff to be
Speaker 1: going on on June nineteenth, and this year, it'll be closed.
Speaker 1: I mean, this corona gone on, but in the future
Speaker 1: it'll be close. I think it's big for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at least. So what are your thoughts? This week? Is
Speaker 1: what we've seen because from the last time we did
Speaker 1: our show, um, we saw the we it was. It
Speaker 1: was earlier that morning, the players had come out and
Speaker 1: you know, Zekiel Elliott was one of nineteen guys who
Speaker 1: came out and basically called out the NFL. That later
Speaker 1: on that day, Roger Goodell came out and said we
Speaker 1: were wrong and we should have listened to the players.
Speaker 1: And so now they're also contributing two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars to um TO Social to social justice and
Speaker 1: and and looking at policing. So for me, I'm shocked
Speaker 1: that in what Colin Kaepernick started in twenty sixteen twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen has now ended ended, but had now gotten to
Speaker 1: the point where the NFL is giving money, admitting that
Speaker 1: they were wrong, and now that they're gonna say we're
Speaker 1: gonna recognize June team, I mean they're starting to actually
Speaker 1: do what Roger Goodell says, listen to their players. Church. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's like you said, that's huge. I mean,
Speaker 1: celebrating Juneteenth and then you know them come out of
Speaker 1: their pockets about what twenty five million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: so it comes up to two hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 1: I think that's huge and it and it's a shame that,
Speaker 1: you know, it had to it had to take the
Speaker 1: life of you know, George Floyd to to get this
Speaker 1: ball rolling. Um. You know, like you said, Kaepernick had
Speaker 1: had mentioned this and was just making a stand on it,
Speaker 1: you know, three years ago, and it just took the
Speaker 1: life from George Floyd for this ball to get rolling.
Speaker 1: Are we still a far away away from where we
Speaker 1: want to be? Of course we are, but at least
Speaker 1: the balls getting rolled in the right directions. When you
Speaker 1: have guys like Lebron James, you've got other guys standing up,
Speaker 1: and then you got you know, NASCAR making a stand
Speaker 1: taking away the Confederate flags. I mean we know that
Speaker 1: the you know, the main fan base of NASCAR, we
Speaker 1: all know, or if it is it down south, you know,
Speaker 1: white community, and for them to take down that Confederate flag,
Speaker 1: I mean that was huge. So I mean, the ball
Speaker 1: is definitely rolling in the right direction. Like I said,
Speaker 1: We're a long way away, but at least it's going
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Yeah, definitely. Um, I'm glad that
Speaker 1: they're that recognizing this and Goodell came out and recognized
Speaker 1: that he was wrong and admitted it. And the only
Speaker 1: recognition that I'm waiting on is this Kylin Kaepernick thing.
Speaker 1: I mean that they had Pete Carroll on this morning
Speaker 1: saying that a team called him expressing interest in Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering who that team was, and I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: there will be more teams to follow to see if
Speaker 1: if this uh wrong will be made right this season
Speaker 1: of NFL. I want to see Kylin Kaepernick get a
Speaker 1: job and I would love to see him mention by
Speaker 1: name to say, hey man, we appreciate you for actually
Speaker 1: starting this, but I mean, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: Do you think it has something to do with the
Speaker 1: legal settlement they had that they can't mention his name
Speaker 1: or do you just think they're doing that just out
Speaker 1: of spot. I think they can mention his name. They
Speaker 1: don't have to say they colluded. They could They can say,
Speaker 1: hey man, we were around Kylin Kaepernick. You were right
Speaker 1: when you when you first took a bee. That's not
Speaker 1: them at manting collusion. But you know, we'll see I
Speaker 1: think the ball is rolling. I think I think it
Speaker 1: to touch somebody in the right way, and then they'll
Speaker 1: come on out and say it, and then there'll be
Speaker 1: other people to come to follow. I was asked on
Speaker 1: I was asked on one to five through the Fan
Speaker 1: this week, you know, did I think Colin Kaepernick was
Speaker 1: gonna get a job? And I said no, I don't. Um, Look,
Speaker 1: we know there's there, there are There are several coaches,
Speaker 1: never forget the owners. There are several coaches who wanted
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Colin Kaepernick. Okay, they were very
Speaker 1: upset by what he did and what and what other
Speaker 1: players had done. So I just don't know. And this
Speaker 1: is a league that said, well, we'll let the Nate
Speaker 1: Petermans and Mike Glennen's make money here, but we're not
Speaker 1: going to let Colin Kaepernick. And then also I was
Speaker 1: asked by r J. Choppion want to five through the Fan.
Speaker 1: He says, well, do you think Colin Kaepernick will actually
Speaker 1: come in and take a job as a backup? And
Speaker 1: I said the chopping, I was like chop, I said
Speaker 1: that should not even be a question. So Colin Kaeperick
Speaker 1: knows if he comes in the league, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to come in as a backup player. I said, that's
Speaker 1: the same thing that people want to use against Cam
Speaker 1: Newton right now. Well, you know, I mean, can Cam
Speaker 1: come in as a backup? People have their starters at
Speaker 1: this point in time. Okay, they've got their starters, and
Speaker 1: so if you come into it, if you come and
Speaker 1: take a job, you pretty much know what's going to
Speaker 1: be as a backup. But to say that's the reason
Speaker 1: to not sign the guy like Cam Newton or not
Speaker 1: signed to Colin Kaepernick, I think it's crazy because I
Speaker 1: was here where Randall cutting Him came to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback to Troyman. I mean, these are
Speaker 1: two guys who competed against each other at a high
Speaker 1: level for years, and he'd face each other in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But Randall cutting Him ended up coming here. Rodney Pete
Speaker 1: came here. I mean, Rodney Pete was a starter in Detroit,
Speaker 1: he ended up coming to Dallas. That was a backup
Speaker 1: to Troy Agman. So I just feel at times I
Speaker 1: was hearing excuses as to why, Well, maybe we shouldn't
Speaker 1: sign this person. But I just don't believe that Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick is gonna get a job. I have to see it.
Speaker 1: I can hear all this talk, but until I see
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick not just signed to a team, but on
Speaker 1: a roster on game day, I'm gonna have a hard
Speaker 1: time believe him. Yep. Yeah, I think it's the wave
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that it'll be the cool
Speaker 1: thing to do. So I think somebody's going to do
Speaker 1: it for that reason and because they know that they
Speaker 1: were wrong. So I once again me and New Year
Speaker 1: at odds with this one. I believe Kaepernick will will,
Speaker 1: We'll get a job. He will get a chance to
Speaker 1: do an actual real workout that is by a team
Speaker 1: and not force for stone by the NFL. Okay, at
Speaker 1: this point, go ahead, but okay, you can have a workout. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can even sign a guy. Go back to Michael
Speaker 1: sam all Right, drafted by the Rams, cut by the Rams,
Speaker 1: picked up by the Cowboys, never played a game for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He was a e r W. He was
Speaker 1: a sidelines shorts you eat riding warm up for games
Speaker 1: and that was all he did. So for me, would
Speaker 1: you say signed forget signed? Are you going to put
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick on a team and this guy's activated in
Speaker 1: any uniform on a game day. I just don't see
Speaker 1: that happen. I just don't write that. What my whole
Speaker 1: thing is now, if you get a real workout with
Speaker 1: a team, I'm assuming that it'll be other guys there
Speaker 1: that they're having to work out, so you actually see
Speaker 1: who's better and who's not and have a real real
Speaker 1: eye test for why this guy didn't get get put
Speaker 1: on the team. Was he better than the guys that
Speaker 1: he was out there working out against? It they pick
Speaker 1: up a guy off the street from from that we
Speaker 1: know isn't better than Kylie Kaepernick after this workout, So
Speaker 1: I think they'll be under more scrutiny if they actually
Speaker 1: bring him in for a workout, And I think that'll
Speaker 1: be a reason for him to be on the team,
Speaker 1: if his talent showed that he still has enough to
Speaker 1: be a backup on the roster. And see, to me,
Speaker 1: the whole doesn't have enough talent. We know he does.
Speaker 1: They we know this man can play the game of football.
Speaker 1: And you start looking at the roster of some of
Speaker 1: these other quarterbacks and you just simply say, hey, does
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback have experienced starting any Super Bowl? Most
Speaker 1: of them, don't. You know? Cooper Rush was here for
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott for two years. The backup is now up
Speaker 1: in New York. You know you think that they couldn't
Speaker 1: have him in New York backing up Daniel Jones. You
Speaker 1: think they'd rather have college happening or Cooper Rush take
Speaker 1: snaps and Daniel Jones ends up getting hurt. And last
Speaker 1: year Daniel Jones didn't get hurt, which allowed Eli Manners
Speaker 1: stepped back on the field. So we know he's better
Speaker 1: than a whole lot of dudes on rosters. Okay, we
Speaker 1: know this, but the NFL and it's coaches, managers and
Speaker 1: owners have decided they don't want any part in it.
Speaker 1: And what do we know about Colin happening? While it
Speaker 1: could be popular to maybe sign him and for certain teams,
Speaker 1: it may not be popular if he goes to other teams,
Speaker 1: and every all these owners were guarded against their pocketbook.
Speaker 1: It was made to be seen that Colin was bad
Speaker 1: for business. So we now saying Colin's gonna be good
Speaker 1: for business. And just because a guy's good for business,
Speaker 1: does that mean the team is actually going to go
Speaker 1: out there and do it. That portion of it, to me,
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical about it. I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical, but I
Speaker 1: think it's the probability of it now. It's so much
Speaker 1: higher than it was before. Because it is. I think
Speaker 1: it is good for the pocketbook and it is good
Speaker 1: for the optics in public relationship. I think that this
Speaker 1: is the perfect time if one of these guys want
Speaker 1: to take a chance. Anybody who was on the fence
Speaker 1: back then and didn't want to be the first person
Speaker 1: to step out, I think they have that opportunity to
Speaker 1: do that now. And even if it is just a
Speaker 1: graph for money or pr stunt, I would still love
Speaker 1: to see the man get the opportunity. We shall see,
Speaker 1: we shall see. He is Danny mccraigs, Barry Church, fellas.
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find you on social media.
Speaker 1: You start Danny. You can catch me on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: catch me on Twitter at New restruct it's n E
Speaker 1: w Y Scruggs. Now, since we talked about Colin Kaepernick here,
Speaker 1: let's just break it down for the Cowboys. Any room
Speaker 1: for him on this team? Nah, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: shoot that down immediately. I just don't see one. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got Andy, don't get a solidified backup quarterback there.
Speaker 1: Do I think Klin Kaepernick is better than Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: now three years from playing the game though, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's better than Andy Dalton. So I'm just have
Speaker 1: to stick with Andy Dalton as our backup. And two,
Speaker 1: I mean we're already you know, you know, quote unquote
Speaker 1: America's team, and there some media firestorm that would happen
Speaker 1: with Colin Kaepernick here. I just I just don't see
Speaker 1: it happening. So I gotta give it a definite know
Speaker 1: on that one that he'll be he'll be wearing to
Speaker 1: start anytime in the future. Yeah, I'm an absolutely, positively
Speaker 1: no way not happening. For the same reasons that Church said.
Speaker 1: I think Andy Dalton is better than Klin Kaepernick is now.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy was up in Cincinnati. I mean,
Speaker 1: so we knew it wasn't much there. He's been to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He's still proving and I think with the
Speaker 1: weapons that we have here in Dallas, he would still
Speaker 1: be able to be productive too. I just remember the
Speaker 1: issue that the Cowboys had with the NIEL and the flag,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're open they're bringing in Kaepernick
Speaker 1: with those with those beliefs. So it won't happen. I can.
Speaker 1: I will stand on that one hundred percent will not
Speaker 1: see Kylin Kaepernick play for the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: I'll say say this, when you said the Cowboys stands
Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones stands about the flag, we live in
Speaker 1: a drastically different world since the Dallas Cowboys last played
Speaker 1: football between COVID nineteen and what has happened here with
Speaker 1: George Floyd and the NFL's stands against the players and
Speaker 1: saying that they were wrong and not listening to the players.
Speaker 1: We haven't heard from Jerry Jones yet. But do you
Speaker 1: think Jerry Jones may change his mind, that Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: may say my players are free to do whatever they
Speaker 1: feel they want to do. I think that Jerry Jerry
Speaker 1: is his own man and always will be, and however
Speaker 1: he feels, no matter if it's popular or unpopular, He's
Speaker 1: going to state that and continue to work that way.
Speaker 1: So if he still feels the same about the flag,
Speaker 1: I believe that he will still say the same stuff
Speaker 1: that he said in the past. And yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think he hears what people think about it. So at
Speaker 1: this point, I believe that he still feels the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta agree with you one hundred percent on that one.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like J. J probably feels
Speaker 1: the same way he felt about the flag in the beginning.
Speaker 1: And he's, like he said, he's the ultimate businessman, So
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll go out there and say anything
Speaker 1: to mess up his bottom line. So at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I think, you know, he probably still
Speaker 1: feels the same way he felt about the flag. And
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't see, you know, any room
Speaker 1: for calling to be here or anything like that. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that one. But I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I want to see what you think about that movie.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll push back on something you just sat there,
Speaker 1: Barry when you said that m bottom line. Nike blew that.
Speaker 1: Nike blew that all the way when they signed Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick and had the ass deal, and you had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people now who were like, I can't
Speaker 1: stand Nike and burn the Nike's and not go wearing Nike's.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go where where under armor? Nike stopped, went
Speaker 1: up Nike stocking. Dude, They're just doing just fine. So
Speaker 1: I think this whole premise that if you bring in
Speaker 1: Colin happering, you're going to turn off and kill your
Speaker 1: bottom line. I don't think that's the case. They think
Speaker 1: about it this way, Barry. You just said the NFL
Speaker 1: should be worried about their bottom line. What did NASCAR
Speaker 1: just do with a Confederate flag? NASCAR just sit nah,
Speaker 1: get it out of here, turning it against their very
Speaker 1: own base and something that a lot of their fans
Speaker 1: held on too. And they said no. So if NASCAR
Speaker 1: can do that with the flag, surely they can allow
Speaker 1: that to happen in the National Football League and let's
Speaker 1: players do whatever they want to do. You've already got
Speaker 1: certain teams that are saying that. You've got Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: coming out this week saying, Hey, I'm going to kneel.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear a lot of talking. You know,
Speaker 1: I hate pet but I'm yeeling I'm doing this. I'm
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of talking. I just you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta see the actions first. I gotta see these these
Speaker 1: players that are saying, no, I'm gonna do this, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I gotta see them do it first.
Speaker 1: And I understand what you mean by taking the Confederate
Speaker 1: flag away, but NASCAR and NFL, I mean, there's two
Speaker 1: different beasts right there. So I'm just interested to see
Speaker 1: once once we start playing again, if all these players
Speaker 1: and everybody's saying what they were gonna do in the summertime,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do during the during the season. I just
Speaker 1: want to wait and see that. But if they do more,
Speaker 1: half to them, and you'd be right on that. Neuis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that bottom line the bottom line thing is
Speaker 1: a little different, especially for a team like the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: who has way more sponsorship dollars out there than I
Speaker 1: think any other team in the National Football League and Nike,
Speaker 1: you know, for everything that they did, which was great,
Speaker 1: I think they are bigger than some of these other
Speaker 1: sponsors they are out there, and they could have took
Speaker 1: that loss if it went the opposite way and they
Speaker 1: still were a sponsor of the NFL. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's a little different for as far as
Speaker 1: the Cowboys bottom line versus the NFL's bottom line. And
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, or ain't nobody wearing
Speaker 1: the under armor shoes? Man Miles Miles, Austin Miles, that's
Speaker 1: about it. Yea, out there the rocks, the rocks under
Speaker 1: armour shoe is selling very very well. I just want
Speaker 1: to make shoes. Oh, it's probably like fifty year old
Speaker 1: ladies out there buying the rock under all the shoes. Yea,
Speaker 1: did y'all see those shoes? I mean those are taboo.
Speaker 1: Remember when Cam, when Cam new boots first came out,
Speaker 1: when everybody was like, man, what is this? The boy
Speaker 1: had the boxing shoes out there? All right, we gotta
Speaker 1: take another break. We revisit the bet that Danny McCray
Speaker 1: and I have about Dak Prescott in his contract situation,
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Speaker 1: the players Loud Friday plays loads right here on Dallas
Speaker 1: how Boys. Kind of New Respects a long time Cowboy
Speaker 1: reporter joined by former Cowboy players Danny mcraig and Barry Church.
Speaker 1: A gentleman, you guys were killing that Cam Newton under
Speaker 1: armis Is this is this? This? You guys don't like
Speaker 1: the cam. I got a pair of the cam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're wrong, you're wrong. For now. I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1: You don't like that, You're wrong for now my cams man. Listen, listen, listen, listen. No,
Speaker 1: don't do don't do it. I'm not doing that. I
Speaker 1: got the black pair of rock shoes. Man, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh you not not not listen now? Are you about
Speaker 1: to be doing the people's elbow and the rock bottom
Speaker 1: and all that stuff? It's not. I got the white
Speaker 1: pear too. I got the white pears. There we go,
Speaker 1: Here we go. You're gonna you're gonna start raising his
Speaker 1: eyebrows and stuff on the bat man start talking. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: come on now. But I will say this that that
Speaker 1: my favorite of course, you know it's it's the Air
Speaker 1: Jordan's so you know, I am a guy's the Air
Speaker 1: Jordan guy. You know, Mega sci Fires Jordan was we
Speaker 1: do support Jordan Jordan, Big Jordan ran, Which was what's
Speaker 1: your favorite pair Jordan's? Um? You know what it's really about.
Speaker 1: I like the Trunners. I like the Trunners because of
Speaker 1: the heels, So I like the UM So I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of that, but if you're just talking about
Speaker 1: just a basketball one in general, UM, I don't know
Speaker 1: the exact name of it. I got it in there.
Speaker 1: Actually I got it at the Nike store in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: I spent seven hundred dollars at the Nike Store twenty
Speaker 1: Level because the map the Mavericks. The MAVs were playing
Speaker 1: Portland during the NBA playoffs. The Mays ended up going
Speaker 1: in that June and winning the finals, and so we
Speaker 1: got that fifty percent off discount. So I ran in there.
Speaker 1: I spent seven hundred bucks. I had to um buy
Speaker 1: us by suitcase to put all these shoes in there,
Speaker 1: and and I still I believe it. I still am
Speaker 1: able to wear um about three of them that I
Speaker 1: bought from that trip. I bought so many of those
Speaker 1: Jordans up there that that I had that Nike store
Speaker 1: so um. But but I'm a big Jordan guy. Whenever
Speaker 1: we got to camp, and you guys know that uh
Speaker 1: that little shopping that little outdoor mall that you pad
Speaker 1: the outlet ball you pass on the one on one
Speaker 1: and going up to camp, so I always stop over there,
Speaker 1: and so I got a pair of Uh, I got
Speaker 1: a pair of these. I got these Jordan's last time
Speaker 1: last summer. I got these for about eighty bucks. Real nice,
Speaker 1: so I got got got those. But when I have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get a pair of Jordan's, I usually
Speaker 1: uh will snack a pair so they're comfortable. But it's
Speaker 1: the hell now, I you know, during a break, I
Speaker 1: went in there in a break, I didn't got him
Speaker 1: out of the closets since you guys were you know,
Speaker 1: I'm playing on poor can't can't rock man. It's like
Speaker 1: if somebody gotta gotta gotta you know, I did support
Speaker 1: I did support them and their adventures as they had
Speaker 1: their their footwear out there. But but ultimately, I mean,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna choose just a brand to wear, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a brand Jordan guy. So they know
Speaker 1: it would jobbing shoes when you take me out to eat.
Speaker 1: They're not what those rock shoes? All right? Don't do
Speaker 1: those shoes? All right? What's a loaf or something like that?
Speaker 1: Keep them at the ops. You don't smell it now,
Speaker 1: I don't spell with the rockets cooking. I never bought
Speaker 1: the Jordan ones, and I remember because I'm older than
Speaker 1: you guys, I remember when those shoes came out because
Speaker 1: I was living in North Carolina when Michael played for
Speaker 1: the Tar Heels, and so I was a big, big,
Speaker 1: big Jordan guy. And when they first came out with
Speaker 1: the shoes, I thought they were I was like, man,
Speaker 1: these shoes done because it was black and red and
Speaker 1: it didn't look and then it ended up yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they put some of the white in because the
Speaker 1: NBA said you can't wear that shoe because it's got
Speaker 1: to have white in the shoe. And anyway, over time, man,
Speaker 1: they really developed it. But the early Jordan early year
Speaker 1: in Jordans, I was not a big fan of MP's
Speaker 1: still not now so, but now obviously you got ten
Speaker 1: million choices. I was watching the Colonial golf tournament and
Speaker 1: Harold Varner, the third who ended up time for the
Speaker 1: lead out in the first round, he is a Jordan
Speaker 1: guy and you could see those sweet Jordan golf shoes
Speaker 1: he has. So it has been amazing to see how
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and a shoe have changed culturally, not just
Speaker 1: you know, the fashion of people, but to enter a
Speaker 1: sport like golf the way it has, and then so
Speaker 1: many people are wearing air Jordan golf shoes and then
Speaker 1: get for you and you guys in football in the NFL.
Speaker 1: To see air Jordan police on football players, it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: It's no revolution as the shoe game. I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said, he's taking over golf. I got a pair
Speaker 1: of Jordan golf shoes now, and it's just amazing how
Speaker 1: how much he's revolution as the game when it comes
Speaker 1: to the shoe a pair of I mean, he went
Speaker 1: from basketball to golf and now you see, like you said,
Speaker 1: you see football players wearing Jordan please, So I mean
Speaker 1: he revolutionized the game. I don't think we'll ever see
Speaker 1: any type of businessman like that as far as sports,
Speaker 1: and Lebron's trying to get there, but I mean his
Speaker 1: shoe game is ridiculous. Yeah, man, Jordan had boots. I
Speaker 1: see people with tuxedos and Jordan's own Jordan one's black
Speaker 1: and white. The culture of the Jordan's shoe is just huge,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going any place and nobody
Speaker 1: will ever be able to replicate it. It has definitely
Speaker 1: become a part of American culture and worldwide culture. Really
Speaker 1: you start to think about it, you go over there
Speaker 1: and she Luka donte to the Dallas marriage. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's a kid from Slovenia who was signed by the
Speaker 1: Jordan brand, so it's it's pretty pretty cool there. Let
Speaker 1: me go shut this dog up here, man Michael Danny
Speaker 1: Danny recap our bet here while I go get my
Speaker 1: dog to be quiet. All right, listen, listen, what since
Speaker 1: he's gone? I first bet he lost because he said
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow wouldn't win the hisman and he ended up winning.
Speaker 1: So he had to take me to Papa Those, which
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite restaurants. And this time he
Speaker 1: believes that Dak Prescott will sign a long term four
Speaker 1: year deal before the franchise tag deadline. And I think
Speaker 1: he'll be playing on the franchise tag this year, so
Speaker 1: when he loses again, he will be taking me out
Speaker 1: to eat for a second time without his Dwayne the
Speaker 1: Rock Johnson shoes on and is the deadline in like
Speaker 1: a month, right the deadline, and and he thinks that
Speaker 1: Das's going to sign a long term deal before that. Yes,
Speaker 1: a four year deal at that a four year deal
Speaker 1: at that four year just signed the four year deal? Yes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, none, I believe, yes, I love you knew
Speaker 1: about it. I just can't see it. Man, you're about
Speaker 1: to go going too. This is crazy. Tell me why
Speaker 1: you are so much more optimistic this week than last week,
Speaker 1: because at the beginning of the show you said you
Speaker 1: feel better about it than you have a no hass um. Yes,
Speaker 1: because I can see Gerald Wayne Jones slide down there
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, and maybe this could be the first
Speaker 1: time we've seen Jerry Jones make a statement and talk
Speaker 1: to the media. And here he is paying Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: doing the Jerry McGuire. I love a black man, I
Speaker 1: love black people. He didn't go Dak Prescott the highest
Speaker 1: contract in the NFL. Um Look, I said it before
Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. Tell me the player he
Speaker 1: did not want that he didn't get. This man's been
Speaker 1: owning the football team since nineteen eighty nine. He's always
Speaker 1: got his guy. He's not losing him. He's not losing him.
Speaker 1: He's but he's gonna take care of He's gonna take
Speaker 1: care of him as I let this dog in and
Speaker 1: UH take care of him and it's gonna be all good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gonna give him seventy million dollars over the next
Speaker 1: two years and then pay him, So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he gonna get taken care of anyways. But I still
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be in that franchise that comes to
Speaker 1: last sixteen, that they would be walking in that building
Speaker 1: on the tag, I mean tag hanging about the shoes.
Speaker 1: Y'all think y'all think this is going towards a kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins type situation or we're completely away from the kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: either a one year franchise and nothing, or they just
Speaker 1: gonna keep franchise in what you say, Well, Barry, if
Speaker 1: you go back and you think about the issues with
Speaker 1: what was going on in Washington, was Bruce Allen wasn't
Speaker 1: sold on Kirk Cousins, and the folks who were the
Speaker 1: biggest Kirk Cousins fans they fired That was a Shanahans.
Speaker 1: He was their guy. So so right out of the game,
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of put in in terms of dude,
Speaker 1: you like the player or you sold on the player.
Speaker 1: The Joneses that told you they're sold on Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: they wanted Mike McCarthy Scott before I'm just look, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know what we'll have our next show, but
Speaker 1: I'm imagining Danny. When we have our next podcast, school
Speaker 1: can take a little hiatus here. Then when we get
Speaker 1: back together, that's when you can come on and apologize
Speaker 1: to man. You just say, new were you? Oh? Let
Speaker 1: me tell you this I had. I had a high
Speaker 1: school coach. His name was Corby Meekins, and he used
Speaker 1: to tell us this as we had a team, that
Speaker 1: we had some troublemakers on there, but we were great
Speaker 1: football players and as long as we were disciplined enough
Speaker 1: and stay stayed with our eyes on the game, we
Speaker 1: could make it to stay to win. He would say,
Speaker 1: what you are doing speak so loud that I cannot
Speaker 1: hear what you are saying. And that is exactly what's
Speaker 1: going on with Jerry now. He has not been paid.
Speaker 1: We have been talking about this for a year and
Speaker 1: we are one month away from him being franchise tag.
Speaker 1: What you are doing to speaking so loud, I cannot
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, which is we trust them, but
Speaker 1: do we really believe in them that much? So pay
Speaker 1: them and then I believe it. Todd France is the
Speaker 1: agent working this deal here, and Todd Franz hadn't spoke
Speaker 1: to him in a minute and when is Tyd gonna
Speaker 1: talk to him? Toy, don't talk to him. In July
Speaker 1: when the deal as they get closer and the deal
Speaker 1: gets done, and he'll get everything he wants, which is
Speaker 1: to make Dak Prescott the highest paid quarterback in the
Speaker 1: NFL as of right now. Because I believe that we'll
Speaker 1: see Deshaan Watson pass it and then Patrick Mahomes. So
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is gonna get his money. It'll get done
Speaker 1: in July. When it does. His deal get done in July,
Speaker 1: when did the Mark Coopers get deal done? His deal
Speaker 1: got done as free agency went on. This clearly we're
Speaker 1: seeing the Cowboys. They do these deals. At the end,
Speaker 1: it will get done. And I'll go back to something
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels you said. All I can go by is
Speaker 1: what I see and what I've seen the first of us,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have got it done. Mark Cooper does not
Speaker 1: count because the rules changed right before he had a
Speaker 1: chance to get transition tag and then Dak had a
Speaker 1: little tag and all that, and then that fell through
Speaker 1: so they only could use one. So Coop had to
Speaker 1: be paid at a certain time. So I think that's
Speaker 1: a little different. I know you'd be taking me out
Speaker 1: to eat. Thank you what decide where later? Say? She said.
Speaker 1: The next time we reconvening, I'll be apologizing. I'll be
Speaker 1: apologizing to you for order too many drinks on your tab.
Speaker 1: I feel real confident it's real. Before we go from
Speaker 1: get you an alligators? Man, No, no, I didn't make
Speaker 1: alligator in New Orleans. I did. I did make alligator
Speaker 1: in New Orleans at the New Orleans School of Cookie.
Speaker 1: So I did make gator before. What position you guys
Speaker 1: think needs to be the law of a position group
Speaker 1: thing you need to look at in terms of a
Speaker 1: long term solution. I think it got to me it's
Speaker 1: gotta be the cornerback position. I mean, they drafted one
Speaker 1: corner high, they drafted another corner um in late ground.
Speaker 1: So and they brought I think the other guy from Oakland,
Speaker 1: I believe his name is. I can't find his name
Speaker 1: right now, but they brought another guy in. So I
Speaker 1: think they just invested a lot in the cornerback position.
Speaker 1: So if one of their investments can pay off as
Speaker 1: a long term, long term solution, I think that'll work.
Speaker 1: And hopefully it does. Man, I'm going with linebackers just
Speaker 1: because we don't know about vs. Nick can y'all hear me,
Speaker 1: not here, not here, McRae. But but I'll go into
Speaker 1: tight end. I really look at the fact that tight
Speaker 1: end is going to be a position that they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to address here because if Blake Jarwin does not
Speaker 1: become the player we think, then they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go out and start to look at at finding that guy.
Speaker 1: You start to look at the Super Bowl the past
Speaker 1: couple of years, and you see what a George Kittle
Speaker 1: has done in San Francisco, You see what Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: has done in Kansas City. Those two teams played in
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You saw what the Eagles guy out of
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz and they want a Super Bowl. We saw
Speaker 1: what Rob Gronkowski in the difference he was able to
Speaker 1: make for the Patriots and winning Super Bowl. So you know,
Speaker 1: if you really want to get to that next level here,
Speaker 1: having a difference making tight end who creates matchup problems
Speaker 1: makes a difference and will help you win some games here.
Speaker 1: So I think Blake Jarwin has an opportunity to show
Speaker 1: us he could be a difference maker. Clearly, he was
Speaker 1: held back last year by Jason Garrett and staff because
Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure Jason wit was in his run.
Speaker 1: But to me, that's the one position group that I
Speaker 1: look at long term where they really need to make
Speaker 1: sure they find a solution. They gave Blake a significant
Speaker 1: contract this offseason, but if he's not that guy, they've
Speaker 1: got to go make the Uh, They've got to make
Speaker 1: the efforts to try and solidify that spot because I
Speaker 1: just think tight end and what they want to do
Speaker 1: in this offense, you've got to have somebody who can
Speaker 1: make some plays down the field. And if if Blake
Speaker 1: is not that guy, that gotta get fixed. You know
Speaker 1: you can't, y'all hear me? Yeah, Oh my bad. So no,
Speaker 1: I went I went with a linebacker because we don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with Elvi's neck and Sean Lee
Speaker 1: we know he's kind of at the end of at
Speaker 1: the end of the career, so he may have one
Speaker 1: or two years left. So you're looking at two linebacker
Speaker 1: positions that could be up in the air in the
Speaker 1: coming future. So I think that's one of the positions
Speaker 1: that we need to be focusing on. Yeah, and how
Speaker 1: do they use how do they use Jalen Smith in
Speaker 1: this system? So yeah, that's uh that it's a good
Speaker 1: point that you made the Barry out here about about
Speaker 1: the linebacker spot. Yeah, there's they're definitely question marks there.
Speaker 1: So and that's the beauty of the National Football League.
Speaker 1: And why would we look forward to the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: season because there's a lot of questions here um Vegas
Speaker 1: and people saying the Cowboys were ten and a half
Speaker 1: in Vegas, enjored in the games they think they'll win
Speaker 1: this year. But we know you got to go out
Speaker 1: there and get it done. There's talent on the rosters.
Speaker 1: Let's see how they positioned it together. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break on our end here for the players Lounge.
Speaker 1: We will take a couple of weeks off and when
Speaker 1: we get back, the season will get going. We'll have
Speaker 1: a lot more news and a lot more things to
Speaker 1: talk about, and we will celebrate the four year contract.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott get next, and Danny mccraig, I'll let you
Speaker 1: lead off the show, and I want you to say,
Speaker 1: dear knew, I was wrong. That's how it needs are starting.
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Okay, here we go. I didn't hear
Speaker 1: you say that about Joe Burr. I wasn't in a bit.
Speaker 1: But we'll see, I actually might be feeling I might
Speaker 1: be feeling generous that day. I came up and admit,
Speaker 1: but I admitted my wrongs though I admitted that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not how you said That's not how you said it.
Speaker 1: Joseph bad, Joe's a bad boy. Okay, I was wrong.
Speaker 1: Joe's a bad boy. I thought that they were gonna
Speaker 1: try and figure out a way to get it to
Speaker 1: tour or Trevor Lawrence. But Joe went the next level
Speaker 1: with atoric performance and they all had to him. Man.
Speaker 1: I didn't mind paying that one because the guy that
Speaker 1: guy was, that was a trooper. You know. That kid
Speaker 1: was the truth and mine was was jaded Moore into
Speaker 1: my I know how the media seems to work these
Speaker 1: things the guys they want. But Joe, despite what people
Speaker 1: were thinking was these other guys, he outperformed it. Man.
Speaker 1: He left no doubt sensational season, man, and now the
Speaker 1: number one pick of the draft. I hope he has
Speaker 1: a long career. Man, I just hate that every time
Speaker 1: he does well, I gotta hear your mouth and David,
Speaker 1: that's the portion of it that I can't stand. But
Speaker 1: but the kid is somebody to root for Um. He's
Speaker 1: he's the right kind of guy, you know, as he
Speaker 1: left LSU on his final game and put the borough
Speaker 1: in there with the U Eux on there and what
Speaker 1: he's done since UH being drafted in the NFL. The
Speaker 1: position he took the back to players UM during Black Lives,
Speaker 1: the first the first, the first Louisiana and the quarterback
Speaker 1: to speak out in the correct way. Yeah, so Jones,
Speaker 1: Joe Borrow Man, I got no, no but respect for him.
Speaker 1: But like I said, the problem is that when I
Speaker 1: praised him, I got to hear from you. That's the
Speaker 1: part that I don't always like doing here, but loved
Speaker 1: the kid man. Like hope, I hope he has a
Speaker 1: long career and you know what, I hope we get
Speaker 1: to go actually see him play this year. That would
Speaker 1: be because I don't know what the travel schedule is
Speaker 1: going to be in terms of what they canna allow
Speaker 1: media to go. That's gonna be the next thing that
Speaker 1: we're starting to figure out with with this whole COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: But you know, I hope we get to go see
Speaker 1: Joe Borrow play and UH and see what he can
Speaker 1: do with their Cincinnati. So so there there. Yeah, you're happy,
Speaker 1: You're happy. Thanks show. Yeah. I want you to bring
Speaker 1: that same intensity with Dak Prescott, get that money and
Speaker 1: the Jones family. And you just say I did not
Speaker 1: listen to the education. Knew we try to provide me.
Speaker 1: But that's okay. That's why we do to show you.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I made that I'm wrong. Five months later,
Speaker 1: you right, that's what That's what I'm gonna do, both
Speaker 1: of you. Man, Let's stay in touch during this time off.
Speaker 1: To everyone who listens and checks out the podcast, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you. We'll be back here. We're gonna take a
Speaker 1: little bit of hiatus, gonna take a little bit of
Speaker 1: time off, and we'll be back to talk about the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and get the perspective of the two guys
Speaker 1: who used to wear the star, Danny McCray and Barry Church.
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