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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: No Your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Friday Friday. Friday Friday, The Players Lounge. I am longtime

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Speaker 1: Cowboys reporting new He Scrugs, joined by two Cowboys, former

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Speaker 1: Cowboys players, and this is their show. They give us

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Speaker 1: the insights that they had as guys who wore the Star.

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Speaker 1: Danny McCray and Barry Church. Gentlemen, how we doing McCraw,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you, man, I'm good man. Just another

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Speaker 1: week of quarantine for me. Man, just in the house,

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Speaker 1: you know, looking at these same windows, searching for new

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Speaker 1: TV show to watch. All right, what's the last good

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Speaker 1: TV show you watched? McCrae. Uh Man. I started Animal

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Speaker 1: Kingdom probably a week ago, and I'm all all the

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Speaker 1: way through season four now, so I'm enjoying it. It's

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Speaker 1: very similar to Sons of Anarchy if you liked that show.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen Sons of Anarchy, but I did watch

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Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein show. You told me to watch watch that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Yes, the Justice System, huh so

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Speaker 1: I was very very revealing. So if anybody has not

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Speaker 1: watched that, when brother brother McCrae here is about to

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Speaker 1: become a good television critic here, so he's been getting

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Speaker 1: several shows that I must say are very good. So okay,

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Speaker 1: um in church, my man, you're not in the woods,

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Speaker 1: are you. No, I'm back in the d man, I'm

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Speaker 1: back in the d all right. It's hot, it's hot outside.

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Speaker 1: Logged a couple of miles on the bike this morning.

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Speaker 1: But I'm good. I'm good. I'm ready to be back

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Speaker 1: on the show. Man. Let's get a cracking Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you've been watching anything on television, lady, that we need

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Speaker 1: to be checking out. Man. So I did watch that

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Speaker 1: epstein Joy, which was crazy. Other than that, man, i've

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Speaker 1: been I've been struggling to find something to watch. I've

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Speaker 1: been watching a lot of old reruns of Rickett Morton

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Speaker 1: if anybody ever watched that. But other than that, I've

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Speaker 1: give you a podcast. It's really good, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: But but really sixteen nineteen, So to check out that

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Speaker 1: podcast here, let's dive into some cowboy issues here. And

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Speaker 1: you guys raised a really good question. I want to

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Speaker 1: dive into that. Which side of the ball do you

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Speaker 1: think we'll have a tougher time catching up? Because they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be OTAs or mini camp. Katy was probing

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Speaker 1: go straight into training camp here, it's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: offense or the defense? Church go ahead. For me, I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's gonna have to be the defense that's

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Speaker 1: I say that because on the offensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: they didn't really lose a lot of their main tight talent. Yes,

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Speaker 1: in those shoes greatly. But you know, they still have

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Speaker 1: the same offensive coordinator and Kellen Moore. They still have

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Speaker 1: the same pieces of dynamic pieces that can make them

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Speaker 1: a super offense out there. So I'd like the offense

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Speaker 1: So they got a step it up, and so I

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Speaker 1: So what's what do you think Mike McCarthy's philosophy is

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Speaker 1: don't think we'll see very many starting guys on special

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Speaker 1: just pigging back and off of you, just saying that's

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Speaker 1: so my next question here, Danny going back into special teams.

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Speaker 1: So they just got to come together and and point

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Speaker 1: all right, they're tallas special teams, it's boring. No. Look,

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Speaker 1: this is a very big part of why the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Their special teams was troacous. And the fact is, when

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Speaker 1: teams lost the game. So we're talking about a topic

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Speaker 1: and a subject that needs to be addressed. Barry, you

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Speaker 1: made this team as a free agent rookie, and so

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Speaker 1: did you, Danny. But Barry go back to how you

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Speaker 1: Because they've got Ezekiela, They've got twenty power. So for

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Speaker 1: Green Bay days, Jordy would play on the outside, he

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Speaker 1: would play on the inside. He was motioning left and right.

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Speaker 1: There are finding ways to get him open. I think

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Speaker 1: they'll do that same type of thing with Amari Cooper here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, when you put him in

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Speaker 1: the slot, he's a he's a lot more room to

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Speaker 1: and he's going against smaller corners. If you're on the outside,

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Speaker 1: and you're usually you're bigger, physical, longer corners who can

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Speaker 1: kind of shut you out if they get a hand

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Speaker 1: But in that slot, you have about ten yards it's

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Speaker 1: just open space, and if that guy misses on you

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Speaker 1: So I think they'll get a little bit more creative

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Speaker 1: with that and getting him the ball. They might put

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Speaker 1: him in some stacks, some type of option type routes

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Speaker 1: where he can have an opportunity to basically get a

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Speaker 1: free release off the ball so that it just happened

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Speaker 1: to go against that corner one on one all day.

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Speaker 1: So I think we'll see that a little bit more

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Speaker 1: creativity from Kelly Moore. But putting him in the slot,

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be a great idea because he has

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Speaker 1: a speed to separate, he's big and physical against these

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Speaker 1: smaller corners and he can just outman them. So I

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Speaker 1: think putting them in a slot would be a great

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Speaker 1: opportunity for this Cowboys office. Yeah, and the piggyback of Church.

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Speaker 1: It's usually a lot harder to double the slot receiver,

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Speaker 1: especially on first and second down. It's easier when you

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Speaker 1: know he's gonna be at the X or the Z

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Speaker 1: because you got a corner in the safety that can

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Speaker 1: get over the top. When you have to. When you

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Speaker 1: have guys on the inside planning to run, and then

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Speaker 1: you also have to be able to play play action

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Speaker 1: and play the pass, it's just a little bit harder

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Speaker 1: two or three guys to get over there and try

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Speaker 1: to play combo coverage on them. So I think he'll

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Speaker 1: get more openings if they put him in the slot,

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Speaker 1: and he have more opportunities to make those big plays

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Speaker 1: like he think against the rounds. All Right, this is

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Speaker 1: where I want to rely on you guys as former

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Speaker 1: NFL players here. So here comes a new head coach

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Speaker 1: who's going to call the plays Coordinay McCarthy. But they've

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Speaker 1: never worked together. How much coaching does McCarthy have to

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Speaker 1: do with Kellen Moore to get him where he wants

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Speaker 1: him to be. What type of growing pains do you

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Speaker 1: think we'll see from a head coach and the coordinator,

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Speaker 1: guys who've never worked together. I'll start with your church.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot of growing pains. I

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Speaker 1: mean usually that's when you have the spring for OTAs

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Speaker 1: you have many camps just to get a feel for

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Speaker 1: one another, especially as your first time working together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has worked with this offense before, so he

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Speaker 1: has a better feel for the player and I think

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Speaker 1: that's where McCarthy's gonna kind of lean on him. You know,

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Speaker 1: how is this player react to this type of coaching

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Speaker 1: and that type of coaching. But as far as the

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Speaker 1: play calling together, they've never worked together. They've never been

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Speaker 1: able to put McCarthy's system to the field and see

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Speaker 1: how the players react to it. So I think there'll

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Speaker 1: be a lot of growing pains. Hopefully they'll be able

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Speaker 1: to work through these quickly in training camp because we

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Speaker 1: know the season will be right around the corner if

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Speaker 1: it started on time, So hopefully they'll be able to

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Speaker 1: work through these things. But seeing as though hopefully the

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Speaker 1: terminology will be pretty much the same with Kellen's offense.

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Speaker 1: The players will be able to pretty much translate it

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Speaker 1: quickly and get going. But I think there will be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of growing pains going forward. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this. I really, honestly just hope that they've

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Speaker 1: been talking and meeting and doing FaceTime and zoom and

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Speaker 1: they've been founding a way to simplify this offense, especially

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Speaker 1: for training camp in the first few weeks of the season,

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Speaker 1: because if you try to come in and input the

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Speaker 1: entire offensive playbook, there are growing pains and the yelling

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Speaker 1: and the cursing on the sideline will be very visible

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Speaker 1: because it will happen when they first get out there,

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Speaker 1: like you can't do it. So hopefully they simplified it

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Speaker 1: and they're both on the same page about what should

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Speaker 1: be called, what players they want to try to get in,

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Speaker 1: what positions, and they just start off the season running

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Speaker 1: a few of those things in this grow to the

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Speaker 1: playbook as they go throughout Week seventeen. All right, you

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Speaker 1: check it out the players Lounge. I am KNWI Scruggs,

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Speaker 1: a long time report of the Cowboys, joined by four

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Speaker 1: by two former Dallas Cowboys defensive acts, Danny McCray and

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Speaker 1: Barry Church. Still to come on the show, we recap

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Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, I'm doing it Scarts,

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Speaker 1: back at Danny mccrege and former Cowboys defensive back Barry Church.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we've got breaking news just coming down from

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Juneteenth, June tenth. The NFL says

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Speaker 1: they are going to close their offices and designate it

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Speaker 1: as a company holiday. Juneteenth is a celebration of the

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Speaker 1: end of the Civil War. Now it's celebrated down here

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Speaker 1: in Texas, and it has been for years. The Civil

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Speaker 1: War ended in April, okay, first week in April, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of the black slaves who lived in Texas

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Speaker 1: didn't find out about it until until June, and so

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Speaker 1: June nineteenth. Juneteenth is a day of celebration where people

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Speaker 1: down here in Texas at barbecues and church. I know

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Speaker 1: you're from the Pittsburgh area, Danny, you're from Texas. Som

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Speaker 1: day something you grew up thank a little show. Now

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Speaker 1: we got we got your daddy, go ahead? Oh oh yeah, man?

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Speaker 1: Uh so yeah. Down here and in the great state

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Speaker 1: of Texas, in the great city of Houston, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a big day, man. It's it's people all out at

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Speaker 1: the car wash, all their favorite restaurants, barbequeing crawfish, doing

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's it's a huge day out here.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad that the NFL is recognizing it as such.

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Speaker 1: And I will be celebrating in my front yard this year.

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Speaker 1: All right. So, so for so for you church, was

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Speaker 1: did you know about it growing up in the Pittsburgh area.

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Speaker 1: Was it just something you heard of what you got

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Speaker 1: down here to the cowboys from Texas? Yeah, I didn't really.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really hear because there was nothing. There was

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Speaker 1: no type, you know, big celebrations or anything like that

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Speaker 1: playing with the Cowboys, and you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people with the Cowboys while my teammates were from Texas,

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Speaker 1: and they kind of looked at me, cranzy. He's like,

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Speaker 1: you don't know nothing about this? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I just didn't know anything about it. So up north,

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Speaker 1: it's night. You know. I guess it's not really a

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Speaker 1: boil let the house for Juneteenth. Yeah, I'm gonna say, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I like this. I like this, and it really is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity. I'm glad the NFL is doing this because

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Speaker 1: it gives an opportunity to let more people know outside

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Speaker 1: the day that General Lee surrendered to Grant An Aplomatics courthouse, Bool,

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Speaker 1: everything was good. Everybody drop your weapons. No, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like that. It wasn't like that at all. So I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that what the NFL is doing is

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Speaker 1: bringing awareness to this holiday and that they're going to

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Speaker 1: close their offices and educate more people about it. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's something that when they have the rookie

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Speaker 1: and you guys know this very much. Um, June nineteenth

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Speaker 1: This is when most teams, players and coaches are away

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Speaker 1: Would I would go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Um being playing in Chicago

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Speaker 1: The office in Dallas is often, uh, pretty busy compared

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Speaker 1: for some teams that this day is being considered a

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Speaker 1: holiday than others. So the Cowboys usually office will be

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Speaker 1: booming and stuff with a lot of stuff to be

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Speaker 1: going on on June nineteenth, and this year, it'll be closed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this corona gone on, but in the future

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Speaker 1: it'll be close. I think it's big for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at least. So what are your thoughts? This week? Is

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Speaker 1: what we've seen because from the last time we did

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Speaker 1: came out and basically called out the NFL. That later

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Speaker 1: on that day, Roger Goodell came out and said we

644
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: were wrong and we should have listened to the players.

645
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Speaker 1: And so now they're also contributing two hundred and fifty

646
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: million dollars to um TO Social to social justice and

647
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: and and looking at policing. So for me, I'm shocked

648
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: that in what Colin Kaepernick started in twenty sixteen twenty

649
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: seventeen has now ended ended, but had now gotten to

650
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Speaker 1: the point where the NFL is giving money, admitting that

651
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: they were wrong, and now that they're gonna say we're

652
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: gonna recognize June team, I mean they're starting to actually

653
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: do what Roger Goodell says, listen to their players. Church. Yeah,

654
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's like you said, that's huge. I mean,

655
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: celebrating Juneteenth and then you know them come out of

656
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: their pockets about what twenty five million dollars a year,

657
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: so it comes up to two hundred and fifty million.

658
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: I think that's huge and it and it's a shame that,

659
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, it had to it had to take the

660
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: life of you know, George Floyd to to get this

661
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 1: ball rolling. Um. You know, like you said, Kaepernick had

662
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: had mentioned this and was just making a stand on it,

663
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, three years ago, and it just took the

664
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Speaker 1: life from George Floyd for this ball to get rolling.

665
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: Are we still a far away away from where we

666
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: want to be? Of course we are, but at least

667
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: the balls getting rolled in the right directions. When you

668
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: have guys like Lebron James, you've got other guys standing up,

669
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: and then you got you know, NASCAR making a stand

670
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: taking away the Confederate flags. I mean we know that

671
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: the you know, the main fan base of NASCAR, we

672
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: all know, or if it is it down south, you know,

673
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: white community, and for them to take down that Confederate flag,

674
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean that was huge. So I mean, the ball

675
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: is definitely rolling in the right direction. Like I said,

676
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: We're a long way away, but at least it's going

677
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Yeah, definitely. Um, I'm glad that

678
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: they're that recognizing this and Goodell came out and recognized

679
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: that he was wrong and admitted it. And the only

680
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: recognition that I'm waiting on is this Kylin Kaepernick thing.

681
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean that they had Pete Carroll on this morning

682
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: saying that a team called him expressing interest in Kaepernick.

683
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm wondering who that team was, and I'm wondering if

684
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: there will be more teams to follow to see if

685
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: if this uh wrong will be made right this season

686
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: of NFL. I want to see Kylin Kaepernick get a

687
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: job and I would love to see him mention by

688
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: name to say, hey man, we appreciate you for actually

689
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: starting this, but I mean, we'll see how that goes.

690
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Do you think it has something to do with the

691
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: legal settlement they had that they can't mention his name

692
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: or do you just think they're doing that just out

693
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: of spot. I think they can mention his name. They

694
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: don't have to say they colluded. They could They can say,

695
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: hey man, we were around Kylin Kaepernick. You were right

696
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: when you when you first took a bee. That's not

697
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: them at manting collusion. But you know, we'll see I

698
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: think the ball is rolling. I think I think it

699
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: to touch somebody in the right way, and then they'll

700
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: come on out and say it, and then there'll be

701
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: other people to come to follow. I was asked on

702
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: I was asked on one to five through the Fan

703
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: this week, you know, did I think Colin Kaepernick was

704
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna get a job? And I said no, I don't. Um, Look,

705
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: we know there's there, there are There are several coaches,

706
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: never forget the owners. There are several coaches who wanted

707
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Colin Kaepernick. Okay, they were very

708
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: upset by what he did and what and what other

709
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: players had done. So I just don't know. And this

710
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: is a league that said, well, we'll let the Nate

711
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: Petermans and Mike Glennen's make money here, but we're not

712
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: going to let Colin Kaepernick. And then also I was

713
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Speaker 1: asked by r J. Choppion want to five through the Fan.

714
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Speaker 1: He says, well, do you think Colin Kaepernick will actually

715
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: come in and take a job as a backup? And

716
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: I said the chopping, I was like chop, I said

717
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: that should not even be a question. So Colin Kaeperick

718
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: knows if he comes in the league, he's gonna have

719
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: to come in as a backup player. I said, that's

720
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Speaker 1: the same thing that people want to use against Cam

721
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Newton right now. Well, you know, I mean, can Cam

722
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Speaker 1: come in as a backup? People have their starters at

723
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: this point in time. Okay, they've got their starters, and

724
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: so if you come into it, if you come and

725
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: take a job, you pretty much know what's going to

726
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: be as a backup. But to say that's the reason

727
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: to not sign the guy like Cam Newton or not

728
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: signed to Colin Kaepernick, I think it's crazy because I

729
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: was here where Randall cutting Him came to the Cowboys

730
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback to Troyman. I mean, these are

731
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: two guys who competed against each other at a high

732
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: level for years, and he'd face each other in the playoffs.

733
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Speaker 1: But Randall cutting Him ended up coming here. Rodney Pete

734
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: came here. I mean, Rodney Pete was a starter in Detroit,

735
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: he ended up coming to Dallas. That was a backup

736
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: to Troy Agman. So I just feel at times I

737
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: was hearing excuses as to why, Well, maybe we shouldn't

738
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: sign this person. But I just don't believe that Colin

739
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: Kaepernick is gonna get a job. I have to see it.

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00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: I can hear all this talk, but until I see

741
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick not just signed to a team, but on

742
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: a roster on game day, I'm gonna have a hard

743
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: time believe him. Yep. Yeah, I think it's the wave

744
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that it'll be the cool

745
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: thing to do. So I think somebody's going to do

746
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: it for that reason and because they know that they

747
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: were wrong. So I once again me and New Year

748
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: at odds with this one. I believe Kaepernick will will,

749
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: We'll get a job. He will get a chance to

750
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: do an actual real workout that is by a team

751
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: and not force for stone by the NFL. Okay, at

752
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: this point, go ahead, but okay, you can have a workout. Okay,

753
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: you can even sign a guy. Go back to Michael

754
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: sam all Right, drafted by the Rams, cut by the Rams,

755
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: picked up by the Cowboys, never played a game for

756
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He was a e r W. He was

757
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: a sidelines shorts you eat riding warm up for games

758
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: and that was all he did. So for me, would

759
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: you say signed forget signed? Are you going to put

760
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick on a team and this guy's activated in

761
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: any uniform on a game day. I just don't see

762
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: that happen. I just don't write that. What my whole

763
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: thing is now, if you get a real workout with

764
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: a team, I'm assuming that it'll be other guys there

765
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: that they're having to work out, so you actually see

766
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: who's better and who's not and have a real real

767
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: eye test for why this guy didn't get get put

768
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: on the team. Was he better than the guys that

769
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: he was out there working out against? It they pick

770
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: up a guy off the street from from that we

771
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: know isn't better than Kylie Kaepernick after this workout, So

772
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I think they'll be under more scrutiny if they actually

773
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: bring him in for a workout, And I think that'll

774
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: be a reason for him to be on the team,

775
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: if his talent showed that he still has enough to

776
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: be a backup on the roster. And see, to me,

777
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: the whole doesn't have enough talent. We know he does.

778
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: They we know this man can play the game of football.

779
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: And you start looking at the roster of some of

780
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: these other quarterbacks and you just simply say, hey, does

781
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback have experienced starting any Super Bowl? Most

782
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: of them, don't. You know? Cooper Rush was here for

783
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott for two years. The backup is now up

784
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: in New York. You know you think that they couldn't

785
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: have him in New York backing up Daniel Jones. You

786
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: think they'd rather have college happening or Cooper Rush take

787
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: snaps and Daniel Jones ends up getting hurt. And last

788
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: year Daniel Jones didn't get hurt, which allowed Eli Manners

789
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: stepped back on the field. So we know he's better

790
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: than a whole lot of dudes on rosters. Okay, we

791
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: know this, but the NFL and it's coaches, managers and

792
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: owners have decided they don't want any part in it.

793
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: And what do we know about Colin happening? While it

794
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: could be popular to maybe sign him and for certain teams,

795
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: it may not be popular if he goes to other teams,

796
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: and every all these owners were guarded against their pocketbook.

797
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: It was made to be seen that Colin was bad

798
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: for business. So we now saying Colin's gonna be good

799
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: for business. And just because a guy's good for business,

800
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: does that mean the team is actually going to go

801
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: out there and do it. That portion of it, to me,

802
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical about it. I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical, but I

803
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: think it's the probability of it now. It's so much

804
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: higher than it was before. Because it is. I think

805
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: it is good for the pocketbook and it is good

806
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: for the optics in public relationship. I think that this

807
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: is the perfect time if one of these guys want

808
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: to take a chance. Anybody who was on the fence

809
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: back then and didn't want to be the first person

810
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: to step out, I think they have that opportunity to

811
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: do that now. And even if it is just a

812
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: graph for money or pr stunt, I would still love

813
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: to see the man get the opportunity. We shall see,

814
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: we shall see. He is Danny mccraigs, Barry Church, fellas.

815
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find you on social media.

816
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: You start Danny. You can catch me on Twitter at

817
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Danny at Danny dmc forty four and on Instagram at

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00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: Danny Underscore mccraig forty You catch me at Darry Church

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Speaker 1: forty two. That's both Twitter and Instagram, all right. You

820
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: catch me on Twitter at New restruct it's n E

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Speaker 1: w Y Scruggs. Now, since we talked about Colin Kaepernick here,

822
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: let's just break it down for the Cowboys. Any room

823
00:38:54,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: for him on this team? Nah, I'm gonna have to

824
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: shoot that down immediately. I just don't see one. I mean,

825
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: we got Andy, don't get a solidified backup quarterback there.

826
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Do I think Klin Kaepernick is better than Andy Dalton

827
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: now three years from playing the game though, I don't

828
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: think he's better than Andy Dalton. So I'm just have

829
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: to stick with Andy Dalton as our backup. And two,

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean we're already you know, you know, quote unquote

831
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: America's team, and there some media firestorm that would happen

832
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: with Colin Kaepernick here. I just I just don't see

833
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: it happening. So I gotta give it a definite know

834
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: on that one that he'll be he'll be wearing to

835
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: start anytime in the future. Yeah, I'm an absolutely, positively

836
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: no way not happening. For the same reasons that Church said.

837
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: I think Andy Dalton is better than Klin Kaepernick is now.

838
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean the guy was up in Cincinnati. I mean,

839
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: so we knew it wasn't much there. He's been to

840
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He's still proving and I think with the

841
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: weapons that we have here in Dallas, he would still

842
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: be able to be productive too. I just remember the

843
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: issue that the Cowboys had with the NIEL and the flag,

844
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're open they're bringing in Kaepernick

845
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: with those with those beliefs. So it won't happen. I can.

846
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: I will stand on that one hundred percent will not

847
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: see Kylin Kaepernick play for the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, now,

848
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: I'll say say this, when you said the Cowboys stands

849
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones stands about the flag, we live in

850
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: a drastically different world since the Dallas Cowboys last played

851
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: football between COVID nineteen and what has happened here with

852
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: George Floyd and the NFL's stands against the players and

853
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: saying that they were wrong and not listening to the players.

854
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: We haven't heard from Jerry Jones yet. But do you

855
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: think Jerry Jones may change his mind, that Jerry Jones

856
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: may say my players are free to do whatever they

857
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: feel they want to do. I think that Jerry Jerry

858
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: is his own man and always will be, and however

859
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: he feels, no matter if it's popular or unpopular, He's

860
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: going to state that and continue to work that way.

861
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: So if he still feels the same about the flag,

862
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: I believe that he will still say the same stuff

863
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: that he said in the past. And yeah, I don't

864
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: think he hears what people think about it. So at

865
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: this point, I believe that he still feels the same. Yeah,

866
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: I gotta agree with you one hundred percent on that one.

867
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like J. J probably feels

868
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: the same way he felt about the flag in the beginning.

869
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: And he's, like he said, he's the ultimate businessman, So

870
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll go out there and say anything

871
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: to mess up his bottom line. So at the end

872
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: of the day, I think, you know, he probably still

873
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: feels the same way he felt about the flag. And

874
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't see, you know, any room

875
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: for calling to be here or anything like that. So

876
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that one. But I'm you know,

877
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I want to see what you think about that movie.

878
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: All right, I'll push back on something you just sat there,

879
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Barry when you said that m bottom line. Nike blew that.

880
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: Nike blew that all the way when they signed Colin

881
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: Kaepernick and had the ass deal, and you had a

882
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people now who were like, I can't

883
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: stand Nike and burn the Nike's and not go wearing Nike's.

884
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go where where under armor? Nike stopped, went

885
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: up Nike stocking. Dude, They're just doing just fine. So

886
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: I think this whole premise that if you bring in

887
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Colin happering, you're going to turn off and kill your

888
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: bottom line. I don't think that's the case. They think

889
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: about it this way, Barry. You just said the NFL

890
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: should be worried about their bottom line. What did NASCAR

891
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: just do with a Confederate flag? NASCAR just sit nah,

892
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: get it out of here, turning it against their very

893
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: own base and something that a lot of their fans

894
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: held on too. And they said no. So if NASCAR

895
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: can do that with the flag, surely they can allow

896
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: that to happen in the National Football League and let's

897
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: players do whatever they want to do. You've already got

898
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: certain teams that are saying that. You've got Adrian Peterson

899
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: coming out this week saying, Hey, I'm going to kneel.

900
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear a lot of talking. You know,

901
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: I hate pet but I'm yeeling I'm doing this. I'm

902
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of talking. I just you know, I

903
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: gotta see the actions first. I gotta see these these

904
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: players that are saying, no, I'm gonna do this, I'm

905
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I gotta see them do it first.

906
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: And I understand what you mean by taking the Confederate

907
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: flag away, but NASCAR and NFL, I mean, there's two

908
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: different beasts right there. So I'm just interested to see

909
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: once once we start playing again, if all these players

910
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: and everybody's saying what they were gonna do in the summertime,

911
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna do during the during the season. I just

912
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: want to wait and see that. But if they do more,

913
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: half to them, and you'd be right on that. Neuis. Yeah,

914
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: I think that bottom line the bottom line thing is

915
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: a little different, especially for a team like the Cowboys,

916
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: who has way more sponsorship dollars out there than I

917
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: think any other team in the National Football League and Nike,

918
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, for everything that they did, which was great,

919
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: I think they are bigger than some of these other

920
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: sponsors they are out there, and they could have took

921
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: that loss if it went the opposite way and they

922
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: still were a sponsor of the NFL. So, I mean,

923
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: I think it's a little different for as far as

924
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys bottom line versus the NFL's bottom line. And

925
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, or ain't nobody wearing

926
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: the under armor shoes? Man Miles Miles, Austin Miles, that's

927
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: about it. Yea, out there the rocks, the rocks under

928
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: armour shoe is selling very very well. I just want

929
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,480
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930
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: ladies out there buying the rock under all the shoes. Yea,

931
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,680
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932
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Speaker 1: Remember when Cam, when Cam new boots first came out,

933
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,719
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934
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,200
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977
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Speaker 1: A gentleman, you guys were killing that Cam Newton under

978
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: armis Is this is this? This? You guys don't like

979
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: the cam. I got a pair of the cam. Yeah,

980
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: you're wrong, you're wrong. For now. I'll tell you right now.

981
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: You don't like that, You're wrong for now my cams man. Listen, listen, listen, listen. No,

982
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: don't do don't do it. I'm not doing that. I

983
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: got the black pair of rock shoes. Man, you're like,

984
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: oh you not not not listen now? Are you about

985
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: to be doing the people's elbow and the rock bottom

986
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: and all that stuff? It's not. I got the white

987
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: pear too. I got the white pears. There we go,

988
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: Here we go. You're gonna you're gonna start raising his

989
00:47:52,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: eyebrows and stuff on the bat man start talking. Come on, man,

990
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: come on now. But I will say this that that

991
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: my favorite of course, you know it's it's the Air

992
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: Jordan's so you know, I am a guy's the Air

993
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Jordan guy. You know, Mega sci Fires Jordan was we

994
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: do support Jordan Jordan, Big Jordan ran, Which was what's

995
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: your favorite pair Jordan's? Um? You know what it's really about.

996
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: I like the Trunners. I like the Trunners because of

997
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: the heels, So I like the UM So I'm a

998
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: big fan of that, but if you're just talking about

999
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: just a basketball one in general, UM, I don't know

1000
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: the exact name of it. I got it in there.

1001
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Actually I got it at the Nike store in twenty eleven.

1002
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: I spent seven hundred dollars at the Nike Store twenty

1003
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Level because the map the Mavericks. The MAVs were playing

1004
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: Portland during the NBA playoffs. The Mays ended up going

1005
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: in that June and winning the finals, and so we

1006
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: got that fifty percent off discount. So I ran in there.

1007
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: I spent seven hundred bucks. I had to um buy

1008
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: us by suitcase to put all these shoes in there,

1009
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: and and I still I believe it. I still am

1010
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: able to wear um about three of them that I

1011
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: bought from that trip. I bought so many of those

1012
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: Jordans up there that that I had that Nike store

1013
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: so um. But but I'm a big Jordan guy. Whenever

1014
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: we got to camp, and you guys know that uh

1015
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: that little shopping that little outdoor mall that you pad

1016
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: the outlet ball you pass on the one on one

1017
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: and going up to camp, so I always stop over there,

1018
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: and so I got a pair of Uh, I got

1019
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: a pair of these. I got these Jordan's last time

1020
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: last summer. I got these for about eighty bucks. Real nice,

1021
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: so I got got got those. But when I have

1022
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get a pair of Jordan's, I usually

1023
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: uh will snack a pair so they're comfortable. But it's

1024
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: the hell now, I you know, during a break, I

1025
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: went in there in a break, I didn't got him

1026
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: out of the closets since you guys were you know,

1027
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm playing on poor can't can't rock man. It's like

1028
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: if somebody gotta gotta gotta you know, I did support

1029
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: I did support them and their adventures as they had

1030
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: their their footwear out there. But but ultimately, I mean,

1031
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna choose just a brand to wear, I'm

1032
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a brand Jordan guy. So they know

1033
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: it would jobbing shoes when you take me out to eat.

1034
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: They're not what those rock shoes? All right? Don't do

1035
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: those shoes? All right? What's a loaf or something like that?

1036
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: Keep them at the ops. You don't smell it now,

1037
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: I don't spell with the rockets cooking. I never bought

1038
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: the Jordan ones, and I remember because I'm older than

1039
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: you guys, I remember when those shoes came out because

1040
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: I was living in North Carolina when Michael played for

1041
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: the Tar Heels, and so I was a big, big,

1042
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: big Jordan guy. And when they first came out with

1043
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: the shoes, I thought they were I was like, man,

1044
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: these shoes done because it was black and red and

1045
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: it didn't look and then it ended up yeah, and

1046
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: then they put some of the white in because the

1047
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: NBA said you can't wear that shoe because it's got

1048
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: to have white in the shoe. And anyway, over time, man,

1049
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: they really developed it. But the early Jordan early year

1050
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: in Jordans, I was not a big fan of MP's

1051
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: still not now so, but now obviously you got ten

1052
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: million choices. I was watching the Colonial golf tournament and

1053
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: Harold Varner, the third who ended up time for the

1054
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: lead out in the first round, he is a Jordan

1055
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: guy and you could see those sweet Jordan golf shoes

1056
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: he has. So it has been amazing to see how

1057
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and a shoe have changed culturally, not just

1058
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, the fashion of people, but to enter a

1059
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: sport like golf the way it has, and then so

1060
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: many people are wearing air Jordan golf shoes and then

1061
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: get for you and you guys in football in the NFL.

1062
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: To see air Jordan police on football players, it's pretty amazing.

1063
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: It's no revolution as the shoe game. I mean, like

1064
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: you said, he's taking over golf. I got a pair

1065
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: of Jordan golf shoes now, and it's just amazing how

1066
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: how much he's revolution as the game when it comes

1067
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: to the shoe a pair of I mean, he went

1068
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: from basketball to golf and now you see, like you said,

1069
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: you see football players wearing Jordan please, So I mean

1070
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: he revolutionized the game. I don't think we'll ever see

1071
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: any type of businessman like that as far as sports,

1072
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: and Lebron's trying to get there, but I mean his

1073
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: shoe game is ridiculous. Yeah, man, Jordan had boots. I

1074
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: see people with tuxedos and Jordan's own Jordan one's black

1075
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: and white. The culture of the Jordan's shoe is just huge,

1076
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going any place and nobody

1077
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: will ever be able to replicate it. It has definitely

1078
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: become a part of American culture and worldwide culture. Really

1079
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: you start to think about it, you go over there

1080
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: and she Luka donte to the Dallas marriage. I mean,

1081
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: here's a kid from Slovenia who was signed by the

1082
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: Jordan brand, so it's it's pretty pretty cool there. Let

1083
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: me go shut this dog up here, man Michael Danny

1084
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: Danny recap our bet here while I go get my

1085
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: dog to be quiet. All right, listen, listen, what since

1086
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: he's gone? I first bet he lost because he said

1087
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow wouldn't win the hisman and he ended up winning.

1088
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: So he had to take me to Papa Those, which

1089
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite restaurants. And this time he

1090
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: believes that Dak Prescott will sign a long term four

1091
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: year deal before the franchise tag deadline. And I think

1092
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: he'll be playing on the franchise tag this year, so

1093
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: when he loses again, he will be taking me out

1094
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: to eat for a second time without his Dwayne the

1095
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: Rock Johnson shoes on and is the deadline in like

1096
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: a month, right the deadline, and and he thinks that

1097
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Das's going to sign a long term deal before that. Yes,

1098
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: a four year deal at that a four year deal

1099
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: at that four year just signed the four year deal? Yes,

1100
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, none, I believe, yes, I love you knew

1101
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: about it. I just can't see it. Man, you're about

1102
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: to go going too. This is crazy. Tell me why

1103
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: you are so much more optimistic this week than last week,

1104
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: because at the beginning of the show you said you

1105
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: feel better about it than you have a no hass um. Yes,

1106
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: because I can see Gerald Wayne Jones slide down there

1107
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, and maybe this could be the first

1108
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: time we've seen Jerry Jones make a statement and talk

1109
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: to the media. And here he is paying Dak Prescott

1110
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: doing the Jerry McGuire. I love a black man, I

1111
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: love black people. He didn't go Dak Prescott the highest

1112
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: contract in the NFL. Um Look, I said it before

1113
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. Tell me the player he

1114
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: did not want that he didn't get. This man's been

1115
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: owning the football team since nineteen eighty nine. He's always

1116
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: got his guy. He's not losing him. He's not losing him.

1117
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: He's but he's gonna take care of He's gonna take

1118
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: care of him as I let this dog in and

1119
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: UH take care of him and it's gonna be all good. Yeah,

1120
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: he gonna give him seventy million dollars over the next

1121
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: two years and then pay him, So I mean, yeah,

1122
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: he gonna get taken care of anyways. But I still

1123
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be in that franchise that comes to

1124
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: last sixteen, that they would be walking in that building

1125
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: on the tag, I mean tag hanging about the shoes.

1126
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: Y'all think y'all think this is going towards a kirk

1127
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: Cousins type situation or we're completely away from the kirk Cousins,

1128
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: either a one year franchise and nothing, or they just

1129
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna keep franchise in what you say, Well, Barry, if

1130
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: you go back and you think about the issues with

1131
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: what was going on in Washington, was Bruce Allen wasn't

1132
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: sold on Kirk Cousins, and the folks who were the

1133
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: biggest Kirk Cousins fans they fired That was a Shanahans.

1134
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: He was their guy. So so right out of the game,

1135
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of put in in terms of dude,

1136
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: you like the player or you sold on the player.

1137
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: The Joneses that told you they're sold on Dak Prescott,

1138
00:55:54,840 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: they wanted Mike McCarthy Scott before I'm just look, okay,

1139
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what we'll have our next show, but

1140
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 1: I'm imagining Danny. When we have our next podcast, school

1141
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: can take a little hiatus here. Then when we get

1142
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: back together, that's when you can come on and apologize

1143
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: to man. You just say, new were you? Oh? Let

1144
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: me tell you this I had. I had a high

1145
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: school coach. His name was Corby Meekins, and he used

1146
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: to tell us this as we had a team, that

1147
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 1: we had some troublemakers on there, but we were great

1148
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: football players and as long as we were disciplined enough

1149
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: and stay stayed with our eyes on the game, we

1150
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: could make it to stay to win. He would say,

1151
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: what you are doing speak so loud that I cannot

1152
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 1: hear what you are saying. And that is exactly what's

1153
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: going on with Jerry now. He has not been paid.

1154
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: We have been talking about this for a year and

1155
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: we are one month away from him being franchise tag.

1156
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: What you are doing to speaking so loud, I cannot

1157
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, which is we trust them, but

1158
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: do we really believe in them that much? So pay

1159
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: them and then I believe it. Todd France is the

1160
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: agent working this deal here, and Todd Franz hadn't spoke

1161
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: to him in a minute and when is Tyd gonna

1162
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: talk to him? Toy, don't talk to him. In July

1163
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: when the deal as they get closer and the deal

1164
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: gets done, and he'll get everything he wants, which is

1165
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: to make Dak Prescott the highest paid quarterback in the

1166
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: NFL as of right now. Because I believe that we'll

1167
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: see Deshaan Watson pass it and then Patrick Mahomes. So

1168
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is gonna get his money. It'll get done

1169
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: in July. When it does. His deal get done in July,

1170
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: when did the Mark Coopers get deal done? His deal

1171
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: got done as free agency went on. This clearly we're

1172
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: seeing the Cowboys. They do these deals. At the end,

1173
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: it will get done. And I'll go back to something

1174
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels you said. All I can go by is

1175
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: what I see and what I've seen the first of us,

1176
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have got it done. Mark Cooper does not

1177
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: count because the rules changed right before he had a

1178
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: chance to get transition tag and then Dak had a

1179
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: little tag and all that, and then that fell through

1180
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: so they only could use one. So Coop had to

1181
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: be paid at a certain time. So I think that's

1182
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: a little different. I know you'd be taking me out

1183
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: to eat. Thank you what decide where later? Say? She said.

1184
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: The next time we reconvening, I'll be apologizing. I'll be

1185
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: apologizing to you for order too many drinks on your tab.

1186
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: I feel real confident it's real. Before we go from

1187
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: get you an alligators? Man, No, no, I didn't make

1188
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: alligator in New Orleans. I did. I did make alligator

1189
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: in New Orleans at the New Orleans School of Cookie.

1190
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: So I did make gator before. What position you guys

1191
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: think needs to be the law of a position group

1192
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: thing you need to look at in terms of a

1193
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: long term solution. I think it got to me it's

1194
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: gotta be the cornerback position. I mean, they drafted one

1195
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 1: corner high, they drafted another corner um in late ground.

1196
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: So and they brought I think the other guy from Oakland,

1197
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: I believe his name is. I can't find his name

1198
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: right now, but they brought another guy in. So I

1199
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: think they just invested a lot in the cornerback position.

1200
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: So if one of their investments can pay off as

1201
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: a long term, long term solution, I think that'll work.

1202
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: And hopefully it does. Man, I'm going with linebackers just

1203
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: because we don't know about vs. Nick can y'all hear me,

1204
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: not here, not here, McRae. But but I'll go into

1205
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: tight end. I really look at the fact that tight

1206
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: end is going to be a position that they're gonna

1207
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: have to address here because if Blake Jarwin does not

1208
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: become the player we think, then they're gonna have to

1209
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: go out and start to look at at finding that guy.

1210
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: You start to look at the Super Bowl the past

1211
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: couple of years, and you see what a George Kittle

1212
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: has done in San Francisco, You see what Travis Kelsey

1213
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: has done in Kansas City. Those two teams played in

1214
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You saw what the Eagles guy out of

1215
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz and they want a Super Bowl. We saw

1216
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: what Rob Gronkowski in the difference he was able to

1217
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: make for the Patriots and winning Super Bowl. So you know,

1218
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: if you really want to get to that next level here,

1219
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: having a difference making tight end who creates matchup problems

1220
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: makes a difference and will help you win some games here.

1221
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: So I think Blake Jarwin has an opportunity to show

1222
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: us he could be a difference maker. Clearly, he was

1223
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: held back last year by Jason Garrett and staff because

1224
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure Jason wit was in his run.

1225
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: But to me, that's the one position group that I

1226
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: look at long term where they really need to make

1227
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: sure they find a solution. They gave Blake a significant

1228
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: contract this offseason, but if he's not that guy, they've

1229
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: got to go make the Uh, They've got to make

1230
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: the efforts to try and solidify that spot because I

1231
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: just think tight end and what they want to do

1232
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: in this offense, you've got to have somebody who can

1233
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: make some plays down the field. And if if Blake

1234
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: is not that guy, that gotta get fixed. You know

1235
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: you can't, y'all hear me? Yeah, Oh my bad. So no,

1236
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: I went I went with a linebacker because we don't

1237
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: know what's going on with Elvi's neck and Sean Lee

1238
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: we know he's kind of at the end of at

1239
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: the end of the career, so he may have one

1240
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: or two years left. So you're looking at two linebacker

1241
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: positions that could be up in the air in the

1242
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: coming future. So I think that's one of the positions

1243
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: that we need to be focusing on. Yeah, and how

1244
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: do they use how do they use Jalen Smith in

1245
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: this system? So yeah, that's uh that it's a good

1246
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: point that you made the Barry out here about about

1247
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: the linebacker spot. Yeah, there's they're definitely question marks there.

1248
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 1: So and that's the beauty of the National Football League.

1249
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: And why would we look forward to the twenty twenty

1250
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: season because there's a lot of questions here um Vegas

1251
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 1: and people saying the Cowboys were ten and a half

1252
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: in Vegas, enjored in the games they think they'll win

1253
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: this year. But we know you got to go out

1254
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: there and get it done. There's talent on the rosters.

1255
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: Let's see how they positioned it together. And we're gonna

1256
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: take a break on our end here for the players Lounge.

1257
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: We will take a couple of weeks off and when

1258
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: we get back, the season will get going. We'll have

1259
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: a lot more news and a lot more things to

1260
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: talk about, and we will celebrate the four year contract.

1261
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott get next, and Danny mccraig, I'll let you

1262
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: lead off the show, and I want you to say,

1263
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: dear knew, I was wrong. That's how it needs are starting.

1264
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Okay, here we go. I didn't hear

1265
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: you say that about Joe Burr. I wasn't in a bit.

1266
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: But we'll see, I actually might be feeling I might

1267
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: be feeling generous that day. I came up and admit,

1268
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: but I admitted my wrongs though I admitted that, Yeah,

1269
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: that's not how you said That's not how you said it.

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Speaker 1: Joseph bad, Joe's a bad boy. Okay, I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Joe's a bad boy. I thought that they were gonna

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Speaker 1: try and figure out a way to get it to

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Speaker 1: tour or Trevor Lawrence. But Joe went the next level

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Speaker 1: with atoric performance and they all had to him. Man.

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Speaker 1: I didn't mind paying that one because the guy that

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Speaker 1: guy was, that was a trooper. You know. That kid

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Speaker 1: was the truth and mine was was jaded Moore into

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Speaker 1: my I know how the media seems to work these

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Speaker 1: things the guys they want. But Joe, despite what people

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Speaker 1: were thinking was these other guys, he outperformed it. Man.

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Speaker 1: He left no doubt sensational season, man, and now the

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Speaker 1: number one pick of the draft. I hope he has

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Speaker 1: a long career. Man, I just hate that every time

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Speaker 1: he does well, I gotta hear your mouth and David,

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Speaker 1: that's the portion of it that I can't stand. But

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Speaker 1: but the kid is somebody to root for Um. He's

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Speaker 1: he's the right kind of guy, you know, as he

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Speaker 1: left LSU on his final game and put the borough

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Speaker 1: in there with the U Eux on there and what

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Speaker 1: he's done since UH being drafted in the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: position he took the back to players UM during Black Lives,

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Speaker 1: the first the first, the first Louisiana and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: to speak out in the correct way. Yeah, so Jones,

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Speaker 1: Joe Borrow Man, I got no, no but respect for him.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, the problem is that when I

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Speaker 1: praised him, I got to hear from you. That's the

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Speaker 1: part that I don't always like doing here, but loved

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Speaker 1: the kid man. Like hope, I hope he has a

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Speaker 1: long career and you know what, I hope we get

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Speaker 1: to go actually see him play this year. That would

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Speaker 1: be because I don't know what the travel schedule is

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Speaker 1: going to be in terms of what they canna allow

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Speaker 1: media to go. That's gonna be the next thing that

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Speaker 1: we're starting to figure out with with this whole COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I hope we get to go see

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Speaker 1: Joe Borrow play and UH and see what he can

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Speaker 1: do with their Cincinnati. So so there there. Yeah, you're happy,

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Speaker 1: You're happy. Thanks show. Yeah. I want you to bring

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Speaker 1: that same intensity with Dak Prescott, get that money and

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Speaker 1: the Jones family. And you just say I did not

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Speaker 1: listen to the education. Knew we try to provide me.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. That's why we do to show you.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I made that I'm wrong. Five months later,

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Speaker 1: you right, that's what That's what I'm gonna do, both

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Speaker 1: of you. Man, Let's stay in touch during this time off.

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Speaker 1: To everyone who listens and checks out the podcast, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. We'll be back here. We're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: little bit of hiatus, gonna take a little bit of

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Speaker 1: time off, and we'll be back to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and get the perspective of the two guys

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Speaker 1: who used to wear the star, Danny McCray and Barry Church.

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Speaker 1: I'm new Restructs. Thank you so much for checking us out.

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Speaker 1: We're talking you down the road next month. This has

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