1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: The NFL never sleeps. The roster is ever evolving, and 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: it's all about finding the edge. This is the last word. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: The off season home of the Indianapolis Colts. Now here's 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor. 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Every Friday evening here on ninety three five and one 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: oh seven five the Fan. We're coming to you from 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. I'm Jeffrey Gorman, 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. How are you. 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: Mate, I'm great. Happy Friday, Happy early Easter. That's right, 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: Happy early Holidays. Everybody coming up on tonight's show, getting 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: you guys primed and ready. A busy next week for 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: the Colts started. The off season program starts on Tuesday, 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: and don't forget the NFL Draft on Thursday, or says 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: throwing a party down at Lucas Oil Stadium. By the way, 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: Colts dot com has more information, but may tebe before 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: we get on what is happening next week because it's 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 3: a big one. You talked about the how a day 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: coming up here. I'm sorry to let your fans know 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 3: about this, but. 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: You know where I'm going. 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 3: Matt. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: You're not a fan of the Easter egg hunt, and 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: I I just can't put my finger on it. What 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: is the problem with having an Easter egg hunt for 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: the right participant? 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: I think I spoke too soon. I gotta think more 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: like the kiddos. 28 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: Right, Hey, listen, let me let me help, let me 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: bail you out here. We're just talking the mics. We're 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: not and we're talking to Matt s well, you know the. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: Eighth they're not the most enthralling. 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: But then I said, if you're four, five or six, 33 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: maybe seven, you know. 34 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: You take a walk in my shoes, pal, and you 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: do have The four year old is gonna be on 36 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: fire last weekend. He's got like four egg hunts coming 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: down the pike in the next couple of days. 38 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Hey, slip a hondo in one of those. Take the 39 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: kids get interested. No doubt we're gonna also hear from 40 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: Luke Easterling coming up for the NFL Draft Insider. He's 41 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: from Athlon Sports, one of the best in the business. 42 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: But mayte, as I said earlier, that offseason program it's 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: ramping back up, starts on Tuesday. Chris Ballard's gonna hold 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: his press conference on Monday morning. When it comes to 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: on field work, Matt, what's the one thing that you 46 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: are saying, Hey, And I know we're all looking at 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: the quarterback, so it's kind of a loaded question. But 48 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: what's that one thing you're looking at over the next 49 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: weeks of what you want this team to become. 50 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I mean, obviously it starts with 51 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: a quarterback, but outside of that, it's on defense. How 52 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 3: intense is the install, how long does the install the 53 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: nuts and bolts of this new defense? What does it 54 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: look like now? Under lou An Arumo? You have kind 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: of a revamped secondary in the back end with Tarvarius 56 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: Ward and cam binam here. Now, how quickly can some 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: of those the guys the mainstays like Jalen Jones and 58 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: Kenny Moore the second how can they acclimate to the 59 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: new guys? And vice versa. Also too, it's how does 60 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: this offensive line within the battles? How does that begin 61 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: to take shape? Who begins team portions at center, who 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: begins team portions at right guard? How many players can 63 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: contend for those jobs? With the Colts losing like you said, 64 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: Ryan Kelly and Will Fries in free agency, So quarterbacks 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: obviously a front and center, but behind those are kind 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: of the big ones for me. 67 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: Colts had the number fourteenth overall pick in the first round, Mattie. Okay, 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: the roster ninety available spots during the offseason, it's sitting 69 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: at sixty nine right now. The biggest draft need is 70 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: my question to you, And I know it's a loaded 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: question because everybody wants that tight end off the board 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: if he's there. Everybody says that, but it's not that easy. 73 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: And we talk about best player available, matt you know 74 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: some of these guys slip through the cracks that are 75 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: top five, top six picks in there. I guess outside 76 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: of tight end is what I'm asking. What's your biggest 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: storyline in this Druw. 78 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: Well, you're right. I mean you look at all the 79 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: mock drafts standing back to February. I mean two out 80 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: of every three, three out of every four as the 81 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: Colts taking a tight end and you can understand why. 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: But I'm not downplaying tight end and that need. I 83 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: just wonder if that makes the most sense in the 84 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: first round. And hear me out on this, because, like 85 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: we said yesterday on the Daily Update, if you go 86 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: back to the end of last season, the Colts were 87 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: under five hundred. They were eight and nine that missed 88 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: the playoffs for the fourth straight year, and in the 89 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: words of Chris, hey, we're not close. We got a 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: lot of holes to fill. So I contend that if 91 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: the Colts just take the best player available and stick 92 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: to their board at fourteen and not worry about, Hey, 93 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: we got to take a tight end here, we gotta 94 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: do this, or we gotta do that. Don't worry about 95 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: what position this guy plays. Inevitably, you're gonna fill a 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: major area of need and you're gonna get exponentially better 97 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 3: by taking a hopefully a premium player in the first round. 98 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: So maybe it's tight in. Maybe it's the best available 99 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: offensive lineman or defensive lineman. Those are really big areas 100 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: of need for the Colts as well. So I just 101 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: think you draft best player available, stick to your board, 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: don't overthink it. Get a good football player. Let's roll 103 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: here in the spring. That's how I see it. 104 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: Love that mentality. I'm with you on that one. Bill 105 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: Polly and taught us a lot way back in the day. 106 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: No, it'd be different. It'd be different. You're fourteen and 107 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: three and you're draft in twenty eighth, right, But I 108 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: think you're sitting right in the middle of the first 109 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: round and you're a long way away. As Chris said 110 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: at the end of the season too, you know, being 111 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: Buffalo or Kansas City or Baltimore. I follow me. 112 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: Right, best player available, Man, it's slippery slow for these gms. 113 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: Come on draft day on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. How 114 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: about this one. Let's play a little game here, how 115 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: the Colts attack the draft. Okay, Maddie, okay, the underrat 116 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: our areas of need. Gonna, I'm gonna give you positions. 117 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: You rank them an order of need for the Colts 118 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: the upcoming draft. All right, safety, quarterback, running back, and kicker. 119 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: All right, safety, quarterback, running back, kicker. 120 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: What do you think he write these down? Yep? So 121 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: I have to choose from kicker. Yep, running back, quarterback, 122 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: and safety. 123 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: People are asking why a kicker in there? 124 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: Start there, Maddie, I'm gonna say kicker. Right, I'm gonna 125 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: say a kicker. I mean, it's one of the most 126 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: valuable players on the team. 127 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you need a kicker more so than 128 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: you need safety help, quarterback help and running back help 129 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: in the upcoming draft. That's what I'm talking about. 130 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, if you're making a list 131 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: of your most important players to help you win a 132 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: football game, I think kicker has to break in the 133 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: top ten. We've seen kickers win football games and send 134 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: teams to the playoffs, So win playoff games. Having a 135 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: reliable guy over fifty is what it's all about. And 136 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: like we talked about last week, ultimately I love it. 137 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: I think that's what led to the dismissal of Matt 138 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: Gay last week. So why not draft a kicker on 139 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: Day three? 140 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: Love it? 141 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: I'd rather draft one of the best kickers in the 142 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: draft than draft in. 143 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: The fifth or sixth yeah, or even higher. 144 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean Jake Elliott was drafted on I think 145 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: either the fourth round or the fifth round, and he's 146 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: one of the most stable guys in the NFL. I'd 147 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: rather do that at this point in the draft than 148 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: draft the twelfth or thirteenth best running back. I mean, 149 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: I'm not downplaying the position, but you get what I'm saying, 150 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: Like you can find you can find other solutions to 151 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: that area later on in the draft or undrafted free agency. 152 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: Why not draft the best kicker to push Spencer Strader, 153 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: who's only attempted five field goals, by the way in 154 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: the NFL, and you're not just gonna hand him the job. 155 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: You're right, though, Colts are familiar with Spencer Strader obviously, 156 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: but there's always a second kicker in the upcoming camp. Man, 157 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm syed if they take one of 158 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: these high, high ended collegiate kickers that are coming out 159 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: right there, people are gonna go, what is bell A doing? Hey, 160 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: he's getting better, is what he's doing. You got to 161 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: push each other, right when it comes to a kicking competition, 162 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: it always is the same when it comes into camp. 163 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: It's like, well, if you're one of the greats that 164 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: are gonna make it to the Hall of Fame one day, 165 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: you're probably not getting pushed. But there's always competitions in 166 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: the kicking game. 167 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: And plus two, on Day three, you're drafting for traits, 168 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: you're drafting for intangibles and character. So I'm not downplaying, 169 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: you know, the third day of the draft, rounds four 170 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: through seven, specifically rounds five through seven, But the probability 171 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: of those positional players becoming mainstays for you is low. 172 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: Now the Colts, they have tons of examples to kind 173 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: of debunk that, and that's fair, like Will Fries and 174 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: Zaire Franklin and Anthony Walker, Jalen Carlies. But again I 175 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: would just say kicker is one of the most important 176 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: positions on your team to push you over the edge, 177 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: why not draft a guy. 178 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one hundred percent. None against 179 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: Spencer Strader, but competition makes everybody better. Hey, don't forget 180 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: to check out the Colts Audio Network this week wherever 181 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: you download your podcast and check out the latest Colts 182 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: podcast featuring interviews with great guests regarding the upcoming draft 183 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: and the Colts biggest draft needs. And like I said earlier, 184 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: Ers is throwing a party downtown on Thursday. How about 185 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: this You fans will have access to the field, plus 186 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: autographs from the likes of how about Zaire Franklin, how 187 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: about Alec Pierce, how about Liatu Latu? How about Edgar 188 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: and James? All of them will be down there. It 189 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: is ten bucks to get in. Fans must be twenty 190 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: one or over. Tickets are available at Colts dot com 191 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: slash Draft. It is ten bucks to get in. Five 192 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: bucks if you're a Colts season ticket holder. When we 193 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: come back, We're gonna find out what the Colts should 194 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: do in the first round in the eyes of Lukey Sterling, 195 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: longtime NFL draft analysts from Athlon Sports. He's gonna tell 196 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: us which quarterback is most likely to line up under 197 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: center in Week one for the Colts, Anthony Richardson or 198 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. That and a whole lot more. Coming back 199 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: here on ninety three five and one oh seven five. 200 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: The Welcome Back to the Last Word, the off season 201 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: Home of the Colts with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor 202 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio. 203 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: Speaking of Matt Taylor, join him in Berlin. How about that? 204 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: Come hang road trip with mate Berlin, Germany. You can 205 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: do that, Colts fans. 206 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: I'm better in Europe anyways. 207 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah you are. 208 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 209 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Simple. You place a deposit to unlock early access to 210 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: the official Colts Germany ticket and travel packages. Visit on 211 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: location exp dot com slash Colts Germany for more information. 212 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: Luke Easterling, longtime NFL draft analyst now with Athlon Sports, 213 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: we sat down and talked with him. I asked him 214 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: the biggest difference the top two tight ends in the draft, 215 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: Colston Loveland, Tyler Warren. What makes them different? 216 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think honestly, for a lot of teams, those 217 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: guys could be one A or one B on their board. 218 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: I think it's really gonna be interesting to see which 219 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: one comes off the board first and why. I think 220 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: when you look at a guy like Tyler Warren, obviously 221 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 4: you're getting the guy that brings a little more, a 222 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 4: little more power, a little more toughness to the game. 223 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: I think he's a little bit better as a blocker. 224 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: I think you can you can line him up in 225 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: line closer to the line of scrimmage and probably get 226 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: a little more out of him in the run game, 227 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 4: and and that kind of helps you with your formations 228 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 4: and not given too many things away. I think as 229 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: a pass catcher, he's really really good. Again, big physical, 230 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: tough guy that can that can match up well. He's 231 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: too big for most dbs and too too athletic for 232 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: most linebackers. And I think when you compare him to Loveland, 233 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 4: Loveland doesn't quite have the same you know, sickness and 234 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: power and strength that he does. But I do think 235 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: he gives you a little bit more as a separator 236 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: in the passing game. I think he's a little more explosive, 237 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: can give you a little more you know, matchup potential, 238 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 4: just as a pass catcher a little a little bit 239 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: longer if a catch radius maybe, and just really savvy 240 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: after the kids, really smooth mover where he can kind 241 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: of run away from guys, and I think Warren's more 242 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 4: more interested in running through guys. So again, it's it's 243 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: really just a style issue. Different teams are going to 244 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: have him prioritize for different res. But both of those 245 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: guys you like top fifteen locks. 246 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: To me, that's Luke easterling with us longtime NFL draft 247 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: analysts now with Athlon sports and going with with what 248 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: Jeffrey was saying. Luke, I mean, nearly seventy percent of 249 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: all the mock drafts that I've seen dating back to 250 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: February have had the Colts picking a tight end in 251 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: the first round. You can understand why. However, there's a 252 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: good chance that one of the top two tight ends 253 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: will be off the board before fourteen overall for the Colts. 254 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: So a lot of different ways you can go with that, 255 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: But I want to start with, is there a tight 256 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: end in this draft worth trading up for? 257 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, just because I feel like 258 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: both of those guys, if either one of them is 259 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: there at fourteen, I think the Colts should be thrilled. 260 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: And I think that the issue would become if you 261 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: think they're both going to be gone, and I think 262 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: that would be a different conversation where, you know, I 263 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: think in my mock draft, I've had Tyler Warren go 264 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: in as early as five to the Jaguars, which obviously 265 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: they wouldn't be thrilled to see him in the division elsewhere, 266 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: but right, you know, if he goes that early and 267 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 4: you're looking at teams like the Jets at seven than 268 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: the Saints at nine, there's a couple of the teams 269 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: there that I mean, maybe even Chicago at ten. I 270 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: don't know. You know, like if both of those guys 271 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: would be gone, maybe you have that conversation. But honestly, 272 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: if that ends up happening, I love both of those 273 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 4: tight ends. But the rest of this tight end class 274 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: is really really good as well. I mean, you've got 275 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: guys that I think will be available on day two. 276 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: Elijah Royo from Miami. You got Mason Taylor from LSU, 277 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: Terrence Ferguson from Oregon, Harold Vann and Junior from Bowling Green. 278 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many guys in this tight end 279 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 4: class that I think if you do miss out on 280 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: those top two guys, it is disappointing. But there's gonna 281 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 4: be some great options there on day two and it 282 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 4: wouldn't be the end of the world. 283 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Luke Easterling right there from Athlon Sports following on Twitter 284 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: x at Luke Easterling also at athlon Sports. He's got 285 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: a great four round projection, a mock draft up there 286 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: right now, so check that out. Matt and I always 287 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: talk about best player available, Luke. Obviously the fan base 288 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: and a lot of people are saying, hey, tight end, 289 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: tight end, tight end for the Colts, but the best 290 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: available player at that pick at fourteen, even if the 291 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: tight ends are on the board, could you see Chris 292 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: Ballard selecting someone that plays the edge or plays offensive tackle? 293 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: And what sort of temperature do you feel about the 294 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: players there at fourteen that can't miss if they're an 295 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: edge or an offensive tackle. 296 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really. I mean, especially if one of 297 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: those tight ends are on the board. I can't imagine 298 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: a player at those positions that I would take over 299 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: those guys. And part of it is part of it 300 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: is because the depth that those positions is also really 301 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: really good. I think the difference between the player that 302 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: the Colts would probably get at fourteen if they go 303 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: offensive line, if they go edge, even a couple other positions, 304 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: the difference between who they could get there and who 305 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: they could get on Day two, especially in the second round, 306 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: I really don't think there's a massive gap there. And again, 307 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: I've been doing four round mock drafts for over a 308 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: month now, so I'm routeatemly getting into those middle and 309 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: later rounds where I'm seeing the patterns, I'm seeing what's 310 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 4: available and how the board falls. And obviously the real 311 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: draft will be different to a degree because I'm pretending 312 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: to be thirty two different gms, and in real life 313 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: it'll be already two different boards competing against one another, 314 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: and there's always some surprises when that happens. But I'm 315 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: just confident that the depth, particularly at edge but also 316 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: along the offensive line, and just there's nobody that jumps 317 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: out to me that says, man, this this player is 318 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: so good and it's so much better than what you'll 319 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: get on Day two at these positions that if one 320 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: of those tight ends is there that it would be 321 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: that it would behove Chris Ballard to go in that 322 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: direction purely from a value standpoint. I think value and 323 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: need would match up at tight end if one of 324 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: those top two guys is there, Hey. 325 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: No question here, just a statement, well done on the 326 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: four round mock draft. That's it. That's the point. I 327 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: don't want fifth, I don't want sixth, I don't want seventh. 328 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: We're in a guessing game up to that point. I 329 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: love that you guys stick with the fourth round loop. 330 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 331 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: Man. 332 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: I do get a couple of questions every year, like, hey, 333 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: when's the seventh rounder coming? And man, I've been doing 334 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: this a long time. There's been a lot of trial 335 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: and error, and I did come to the realization three 336 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: or four years ago that, like, man, that's just that at. 337 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: Four is the sweet bless you, Yes, bless you. 338 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: It's deep enough, it's great enough, it goes beyond most people. 339 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: You know, just do the first round right. Two gives 340 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: you a lot of you know, a lot of a 341 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: lot to chew on. But man, once you get to five, six, 342 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: and seven, Uh, it's it's the return on the investment 343 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: in terms of the time, no doubt, and do it well, 344 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: which I refuse to do anything if I can't do 345 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: it to a high level. Four is definitely the sweet spot. 346 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna stay there. 347 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, less is more, right there, Luke Easterling, whether it's 348 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: NFL draft analysts from Athlon sports all right outside of 349 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: the Colts s Luke, what's gonna happen with the Titans 350 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: at one? 351 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: Uh? 352 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: What happens with the Giants at three? I mean, are 353 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: both teams going quarterback and the first and third picks respectively? Uh? Specifically? 354 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: Really curious, Luke about the Giants just because of the 355 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson component now in free agency. 356 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think they were really smart to go 357 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: in and bring in not just Russ but Jameis Winston 358 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: to really if they had to ride into Week one 359 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: with that quarterback room, I think now they can say, Okay, 360 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's we're able to put a winning 361 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: product on the field, a competitive product on the field 362 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: with these guys because they've produced and they have experience. 363 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: And so when when the Giants look at the board 364 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: and they say, hey, we're pretty sure cam Ward's going one, 365 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: as am I I'm pretty sure that's the way things 366 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: are going to go. Then you look at at two 367 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: and say, well, if it you know, if it's Travis 368 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: Hunter there, or if you know, if they really liked 369 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: cam Ward and if if he would have been the pick, 370 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: if they would have gotten their hands on that quarterback, 371 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: but they don't feel the same way about Shud or 372 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: Sanders or anybody else in that quarterback class, then you 373 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: have to be comfortable with Okay, you know, do we 374 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: stay at three and are we are we happy with 375 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter if he falls to us, 376 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: or if we can't get Ward, do we try to 377 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: trade out. I had a mock draft last week where 378 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: I had the Bears trading up to three to get Carter, 379 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: Because if you're the Giants, then you're saying, hey, the 380 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: one thing we may we maybe don't need as a 381 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: pass rusher, We've got came On Tibodau, We've got Brian Burns, 382 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: we need just about everything else outside of Malik Neighbors maybe, 383 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: and so moving down and getting some extra picks, getting 384 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: some better value and still maybe being able to get 385 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: a quarterback. You know, whether it's do or say one 386 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: of those those second tier guys Jaln Milro, Jackson, Dart, Tyler, Schuck. 387 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: You know, I think that could be the way they go, 388 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 4: but I do expect it to be cambred at one 389 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: to the Titans. Feels like Travis Hunter is kind of 390 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: pulling away for the Browns at number two. But man, 391 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: the next quarterback off the board is going to be 392 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: a fantastic and a and a very intriguing discussion. 393 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: All Right, Luke, which which player in this draft are 394 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: you championing the most? Right? Get up and stand on 395 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: the table. Somebody that you know can play make a 396 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: difference on Sundays, but just isn't getting the love in 397 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: the pre draft process. 398 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many guys that I launched the podcast 399 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: a couple of months ago called best Podcasts Available, And 400 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 4: one of one of my segments every week is stand 401 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 4: on the Table. That's literally what it's called, where I 402 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 4: pick a guy that I love and I just try 403 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: to pitch him. But the guy that since the beginning 404 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: of the process I feel like I've just been standing 405 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: on the mountain for is Jalen Royals. He's a wide 406 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: receiver at a Utah State. Uh and again he just 407 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: he does everything at such a high level. Six foot legit, 408 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: two hundred pounds, a four to four eight at the combine. 409 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: Even though he's still recovering from a foot injury that 410 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: cost him basically the second half of last season. But 411 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: he got hurt in October, he still almost had a 412 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: thousand yards. He put two hundred up on Boise State 413 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: the last four games before he got hurt. It was 414 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: like one twenty one fifty, one fifty, you know, two 415 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 4: hundred and So he can play outside on the boundary, 416 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 4: he can play inside in the slot. Again, he's a 417 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: he's a physically, you know, really really power packed frame. 418 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: So he's not small, he's not frail. He can win 419 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: on the outside. He can beat press coverage, he can 420 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: win contested catches, he can win after the catch. He's explosive, 421 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: great route runner. I mean, there's really no hole, there's 422 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: no glaring flaw in his game. And so when you 423 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: look at this receiver class, you know, anytime on Day two, 424 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be really thrilled if I get him in 425 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: my building because I just think there's there everything that 426 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: you need a receiver to do. He can plug in 427 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: and do no matter what the scheme is whether you 428 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: need him outside or in the slot. I feel like 429 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 4: he's a guy that wherever he gets drafted, people are 430 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: going to look back and say, man, how did he 431 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: last that long? 432 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: Check this man out, looky easterlinge you can write him. 433 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: You can write this man if you want to. Luke 434 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: Don Easterling at athlon sports dot com. Go to athlon 435 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: sports dot com find out the latest with the upcoming draft, 436 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: and obviously at Luke Easterling on Twitter x as well. 437 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: Great job on getting us ready for the draft year 438 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: in and year out. Let's go a little present day football. 439 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: There's a quarterback competition in Indianapolis, Luke, and if you 440 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: could check your notes of these two quarterbacks coming out 441 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: of college, what you liked about Anthony Richardson, what you 442 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: liked about Daniel Jones, and ultimately, who do you think 443 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: will win this competition? And what does this Colts offense 444 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: look like? 445 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting. I think Daniel Jones 446 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: as a prospect I wasn't as high on just because 447 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 4: I think the consistency in college wasn't there. And I 448 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: think his biggest you know, plus was coming out of 449 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: David Culletcliff's offense, and you were thinking that pro you know, 450 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: more pro ready coming out of that offense, and he 451 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: just hasn't been able to figure it out in his 452 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: NFL career so far. You think that, you know, there's 453 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: there's some art talent there, there's obviously the athleticism to 454 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: make plays as runner, but just needs to improve, you know, 455 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 4: decision making accuracy. You could argue that he hasn't really 456 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: had much of a supporting cast to figure that out either, 457 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: So that that kind of the other side of that coin. 458 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: And with Anthony Richardson, a lot of those same things apply, 459 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: but I feel like the ceiling is so much higher 460 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: for Anthony in terms of the physical tools obviously the 461 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: arm straight the athleticism. I mean, you can make an 462 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: argument that he's the greatest athlete we've ever had at 463 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: the quarterback position if you go back to what he 464 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 4: did as a combine. And he's a guy who barely 465 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: had double digit starts under his belt since high school 466 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 4: before he came to the NFL. And so, you know, 467 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that just, you know, does 468 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: he benefit from a situation like we saw with Bryce 469 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: Young last year, where you know, the Panthers kind of 470 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 4: took him out of the spotlight for a few weeks, 471 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 4: let him catch his breath, you know, made sure that 472 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: they could stabilize his confidence for a little while. And 473 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: then they put him back in and he was a 474 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 4: completely different quarterback. And so maybe maybe Daniel Jones comes 475 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: in and because he's got more starting experience, maybe he's 476 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: your week one guy coming out of training camp, and 477 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 4: you can you can put Richardson in a situation where 478 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: the pressure is alleviated, at least in the short term 479 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: for a little bit. He can get more practice reps 480 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: without worrying about having to go out and have the 481 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 4: world on his shoulders every Sunday, and maybe eventually he 482 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: gets to the point where you can hand it back 483 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: to him again. The tools and the ceiling and obviously 484 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: the young man, I think I think a lot of 485 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 4: him as a person. I think anybody in that locker 486 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: room would attest to that that he's he's he's a 487 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 4: guy who is going to work hard and he's gonna 488 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: do the same the little things well, and I think 489 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: once he gets acclimated again, you know, conditioning, I know 490 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 4: is an issue late in games last year, and once 491 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: he learns to take care of his body on the 492 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: run too, you know, I mean he's you know, that's 493 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 4: something that I think smaller mobile quarterbacks know they need 494 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 4: to get down. Guys like him, I think are used 495 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: to just being able to physically dominate to a point 496 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: where now that you're at the highest level, you realize, hey, 497 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: I maybe six five, two hundred and forty plus pounds, 498 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: but I still need to get out of bounds too, 499 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: you know, I still need to get down to These 500 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 4: guys are are a different level even from the SEC 501 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: And so I think all those things, I still have 502 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: belief and I still have a ton of hope that 503 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson can hit that high ceiling. Uh and Daniel 504 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: Jones again just comes in to help stabilize the floor 505 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: of that position and maybe give him a little time 506 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: and breathing room to do hopefully what we saw from 507 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: Bryce Young last year and see a big lead down 508 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 4: the stretch here. 509 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: Great stuff as usual, Luke Easterling, It's easy go to 510 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: athlon sports dot com, follow this man on Twitter x 511 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: at Luke Easterling or at athlon Sports. Appreciate you taking 512 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: the time and talking to us and sharing your notes 513 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: with us. 514 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 4: Hey, my pleasure. Guys enjoined the rest of the process 515 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: and good luck this season. 516 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: He's a busy man. Plus, he puts his email out 517 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: there for anybody that doesn't agree or disagrees with our 518 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start doing that. 519 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: You don't have No, you don't. I'm gonna start. 520 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: Doing that because every Friday I'll just read them live 521 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: on the air, like attacking me and my family. 522 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: What show did that? Was that Jimmy Kimmel that did 523 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: the the mean tweets and the celebrities. 524 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: Oh that we should do that, mate, stake off. 525 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Garman is what. 526 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: Hey big Banks again? Oh kidd boy, I'll get raked 527 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: over the Colls. Hey the Coltchsif team up with Anthel, 528 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: Blue Cross and Blue Shield, they're going to recognize school teachers, administrators, 529 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: nurses and staff members who go above and beyond. You know, 530 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: a classroom quarterback. Nominate them today at colts dot com 531 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: slash classroom Quarterbacks. In this high school girls flag football 532 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: all over the state of Indiana. This thing is Roland. 533 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: The Colts commitment to the growth of high school girls 534 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: flag football. It's continuing. They're showing it every day. This 535 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 2: team's goal is to launch one hundred high school girls 536 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: flag football teams by the fall of twenty twenty five, 537 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: and the Colts are providing up to ten grand in 538 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: resources for the first hundred schools that join. We need 539 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: your help, though, get your local high school and communities involved. 540 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: Visit Colts dot com slash Girls Flag to learn more. 541 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: Will we come back, mate, and I are going to 542 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: give you the Forum Credit Union question of the Week 543 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: regarding Travis Hunter's burning desire to play both ways in 544 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: the NFL offense and defense? Can he do it? And 545 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: if he can't, would he quit? Like he says? I 546 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: don't want so. Hey, we got a two way player 547 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: in the studio as well. His name is Casey Value. 548 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: Showcase Coming Back The Last Word nine seven five The Fan. 549 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: We now return to the off season home of the 550 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: Colts Belt Last Word with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor 551 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. 552 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: And James Brown. You guys see these shoulders ever moving 553 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: like this? 554 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: No? 555 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 3: I see you guys over there? Ye biting that bottom lift. 556 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 4: Man. 557 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, mister Brown. Welcome back to the Last Word. 558 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: We have brought to you by our friends at Meyer, 559 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: the official supercenter of your Indianapolis Colts, proud sponsor of 560 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest. Time now 561 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: for James Brown's Forum Credit Union question of the Week. 562 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: What song did James open up with when he opened 563 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: his fifty No, I don't have any James Brown trivia 564 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: hear from Forum Credit Union, But we do have a 565 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: two way player. We're going to talk about Travis Hunter 566 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: coming up in the NFL Draft. Yes, sir, he wants 567 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: to play both ways in the NFL. Guys, Forum Credit 568 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: Union Question of the week, Who is the last player 569 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: to play both ways on a full time basis? Because 570 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: we could say Troy Brown, we could say, we could 571 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: say Deon Sanders. I mean, these guys played both ways. 572 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: Two sports, but not both ways. 573 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: Are you sure they never lined him up on the 574 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: outside as a wide receiver. 575 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 3: Well, the answer the question is full time, right, That's 576 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 577 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there's been guys that have done both, but 578 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: I'm talking about full time. 579 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: So I go back to the thirties, you have to go. 580 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: I'm the fifties. I mean we're close. I mean, you 581 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: guys would know the name. 582 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 5: But I'm thinking there's a handful of Like when you 583 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 5: look back at statistics, there's a lot of guys that 584 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 5: played quarterback and punted. 585 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: It's got to be offense and defensive defense. 586 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: I couldn't take center and linebacker for the Eagles in 587 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: the fifties. The great Chuck bed Nerrick. Wow, great NFL name, 588 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: Chuck Bednarik got an award. 589 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: That you know out in college football, one of the 590 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: best players. 591 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: Let's stay there though. Travis Hunter said, I'm not gonna play. 592 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna show up if you guys aren't playing 593 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: me both ways. You buying this? 594 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not buying that. 595 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean serious. 596 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I played both ways in high school at times, 597 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: and you know I still wanted to play once they 598 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: told me in college, Hey, you got to pick one. Listen. 599 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: I know he's incredibly special, he's he's electric, but he's 600 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 3: not special in the sense that someone could potentially come 601 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: up to him and tell him that he has to 602 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: play either offense or defense. Because every single player in 603 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: the NFL has had that conversation, you know, told to 604 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: them where does he play? Where do you got him? 605 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: I would play him at wide receiver. 606 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: Okay, showcase. I would go corner, you will. I would 607 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: go corner because I think the money's there, right, the 608 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: money's there. 609 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 3: I think the receivers get paid paid. I didn't watch 610 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: every Colorado games, but the games that I did watch, 611 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: he was he was special on offense. That's what my 612 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: thought is. 613 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 5: You play him at corner, you have a couple gadget 614 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: plays for him on offense and have him as your returner, 615 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 5: and it kind of I don't know if he can 616 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 5: play full time at. 617 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: Receiver and corner, because you got to have. 618 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: A little bit says he can, But I mean this, 619 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 620 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: We'll see. 621 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: This league's different. This is in a Colorado anymore. This league. 622 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter played eighty six percent of Colorado's overall snaps 623 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: last year, by far, the highest in all of college football. Right, 624 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: that's not a surprise. But the highest rates or highest 625 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: percentage in the NFL last year by any player was 626 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: Dane Jackson of the Carolina Panthers cornerback. He played forty 627 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: eight percent of his team's total snap so literally half 628 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: of what Travis Hunter is attempting. 629 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna find out if this kid's special, that's 630 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: for sure. Hey, appreciate you guys dropping by listening into 631 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: the last word. We do it every Friday and nights 632 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 2: to form. Credit Union can interact with other fans if 633 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: you want to go online, post a topic and participate 634 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: in various discussion regarding your cult forum. Credit Union helping 635 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: members live their financial dreams. Boys, got a hint for you. 636 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: You got youngins at home. It's Easter weekend. You got 637 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: egg hunts coming. Don't hard boil the. 638 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: Eggs already over, don't Why yeah the wife did it. 639 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: No, don't hard boil them. You got a mess there 640 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: and it's in the hair. It's throwing them at dad. 641 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: We have glitter in the kitchen everywhere. 642 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: No got to heart boil them. 643 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, yeah, all right, part of the tradition. 644 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: One of you bums better throw a hondo. 645 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: In one of those for your kids. 646 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: For Casey Valier, Matt Taylor, I'm Jeffrey Gorman. 647 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 3: This is the last word TAPO on this dollar. 648 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend coming up next to ESPN R 649 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 3: Stand Man, Damn