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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode of Reality with King, honey is an emergency,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bird, it's a plane. No, it's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of an era. We have to talk about the breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news of what's been happening today in the sense of

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<v Speaker 1>that the Pump Rules as we all know it is

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<v Speaker 1>coming to an end. But with a twist, I could

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<v Speaker 1>not do this episode. Hello, please help me In breaking back,

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<v Speaker 1>fan favorite gip said John Well I'm happy to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on board and thank you for being available. So listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all knew where we were when we

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<v Speaker 1>first heard that Arianna was being cheated on by Tom

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<v Speaker 1>with Raquel. I think we all knew where we were

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<v Speaker 1>when major events happened in the world. And today we

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<v Speaker 1>all knew where we were when we got the news

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<v Speaker 1>that have Ban the Poem Rules original cast is out

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<v Speaker 1>the door. So Gibson, the news has broken that the

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<v Speaker 1>current cast, the legacy cast of Band the Poem Rules,

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<v Speaker 1>is gone, but that the show will be rebooted with

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new cast of young kull Falls. Break it

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<v Speaker 1>down to me, Gibson, what's going on here? I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>This this sort of brings Lisa back into the set

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<v Speaker 2>the spotlight like she because her her star has been

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fading in the Bravo worlds. She's taking her

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<v Speaker 2>show to Hulu. So I kind of think this is partially,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a play to get Lisa sort of back

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<v Speaker 2>in the fold in a big way. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>I think their budgets were all ballooning. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there was the highest rate show on Bravo.

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<v Speaker 2>It was going to be expensive, and yeah, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a whole new crop of hopefully messy, hopefully not

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<v Speaker 2>too hopefully not too you know, fame hungry, hopefully not

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<v Speaker 2>too like aware, like I hope they just to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of find a great group that works there.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I don't know. It threw me for

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<v Speaker 3>a loop today, it did.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about it? Do you think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a step in the right direction or are you afraid

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to go down the route of the

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<v Speaker 1>horrible season that we have a Roney reboot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that I'm sad about it. My initial

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<v Speaker 2>emotion was sad because it's the end of an era

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<v Speaker 2>and it was such a good run for this show,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's weird because the show two seasons ago,

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<v Speaker 2>the Scandabal season, was such a high, not just for

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<v Speaker 2>the show but for Bravo. It was like the most

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<v Speaker 2>all encompassing moment that brab was maybe ever had in

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<v Speaker 2>its entire run. Just kind of like like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the size of pop the portion of pop culture that

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<v Speaker 2>I was taking up, Like it's gone from such a

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<v Speaker 2>high to now, oh my god, we're saying goodbye to

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<v Speaker 2>all these people. Two years later, less than two years later,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sad about it, but I think realistically they

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<v Speaker 2>maybe would have gotten one more season out of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't have been a very good season. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>none of them talk to each other anymore. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>like each other, they don't want to film with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>And so in my mind I've kind of gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>a point already today where I'm like, why not try

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<v Speaker 2>this out? Why not see if you can go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the basics and get some cheap talent, get some

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<v Speaker 2>people who are really desperate to make a name for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And because the thing is the thing that I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have compared it to the Rony

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<v Speaker 2>reboot in a you know, it makes sense because these

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<v Speaker 2>are the only two times we've seen them kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wipe the whole slate clean. But the difference for me

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<v Speaker 2>is that there's two. One is that desperation and wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to be famous is sort of intrinsic to the vander

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<v Speaker 2>pumb Rules DNA that first season, Sheena Jack Stace Sandival.

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<v Speaker 2>They all wanted to be actors, they all wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be celebrities, and that was sort of that's what LA

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<v Speaker 2>is all about. It's about climbing that ladder, and if

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV is that avenue for these people, then beeit.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other thing is.

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<v Speaker 2>That, like on Roney, one of the biggest things I

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<v Speaker 2>think that has has hurt has heard its chances of

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<v Speaker 2>really connecting is that this isn't a real that is

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<v Speaker 2>not a real group of friends. They weren't friends before

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and maybe these aren't. This isn't a group

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<v Speaker 2>of friends. But these people work together whoever they find,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all working in the same place, and so there's

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<v Speaker 2>a natural meeting point, there's a natural connection, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>natural point of like something they have in common, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that it has a better chance. A

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<v Speaker 2>show like this has a better chance that a reboot

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<v Speaker 2>than I think a Housewives does in terms of wiping

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<v Speaker 2>this saying clean.

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<v Speaker 3>At least from my point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I agree with that. So this this is my

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<v Speaker 1>My initial reaction upon hearing the news was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, because I still have Ptsdeah from the Roney

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<v Speaker 1>reboot that that's that's not serving me. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>my initial, you know, knee jerk reaction, like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need another show ruined like shade if you

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<v Speaker 1>want it. I'm not being shady, I'm being honest. Ronnie

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<v Speaker 1>reboot is not good, and I don't care who says

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's not good. It's not good. The cast

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<v Speaker 1>are great, talented, successful women. They're accomplished, they're they're everything

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<v Speaker 1>you want in an accomplish New York City women. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not reality stars. And it's and it's okay to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I Carlos King have a great personality. I'm whimsical. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not that bad to look at. Okay, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible reality star. I'm private. I have never shared

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship. I don't want you guys knowing anything I

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<v Speaker 1>do between the hours of nine am and nine pm.

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<v Speaker 1>And granted i'm working, so I'm kind of boring, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't. I'm kind of boring. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible reality star. So it's not a disc it's is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is what it is. So that was my kneej reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I calmed down, and then I was driving

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<v Speaker 1>to get my haircut and I had a moment of

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<v Speaker 1>reflection and I said, you know what, kudos, so bravo,

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<v Speaker 1>And here's why I'm sick and tired of talent on

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<v Speaker 1>ensemble shows thinking they're the star of it and that

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<v Speaker 1>the show will not continue without them. Yes, like guys

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<v Speaker 1>like it needs them, Yeah, it needs them. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sick and tired of talent on ensemble shows thinking like

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<v Speaker 1>I can do what I want and they'll fire everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else but me.

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<v Speaker 2>You should.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's safe. It's an ensemble show. It's a group. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>no one makes it as a solo star in reality television. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we fell in love with you, the star of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>because yes, you can be the star of the ensemble show.

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<v Speaker 1>But make no mistake, it doesn't mean that the show

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<v Speaker 1>cannot go on without you. And one thing I'll always

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<v Speaker 1>tell people is when it comes to the ensemble world,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the starting five lineup of a sports game.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James is arguably the greatest athlete of all time

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, Right, Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing without his team, of the of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the players. Lebron James is not anything without his team.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James cannot win a championship ring if he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the court by himself. Right, Yeah, I wish reality stars

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<v Speaker 1>would understand that. And the problem with these VANDAM Pump

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<v Speaker 1>Rules cast members. They drank the kool A, they drank

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<v Speaker 1>them OA, they drank the Asus Spades, and they got

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<v Speaker 1>drunk with fame. They got drunk with power, and they

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<v Speaker 1>got drunk with delusion. And this is what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you get. This is what the get when you think

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<v Speaker 1>your shit doesn't think. This is what you get when

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<v Speaker 1>you lost the plot. We loved you, guys when you

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<v Speaker 1>were broke in an apartment with doodoo brown carpet that

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<v Speaker 1>needed cleaning. We loved you when you had the blinthe

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<v Speaker 1>in your apartment that you have to twist in order

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<v Speaker 1>to pull it down. We loved it. Yeah, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>love to come up.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what vander Hump Rules ultimately has always been

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<v Speaker 2>a like that, that sort of it was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>this like Cinderella story, that's sort of like you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to root for these people, but ultimately they've gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>the point that we are rooting for them to get

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<v Speaker 2>to and now it's sort of like, well, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>pull it back here a little bit, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. And the other thing is that now Bravo

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<v Speaker 2>has other avenue to keep these people in the full

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<v Speaker 2>which is via the Valley. So and that really is

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<v Speaker 2>what that that makes sense for maybe some of these

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<v Speaker 2>people to graduate into that eventually. I you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see Sheena, La La Schwartz and brock On there

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<v Speaker 2>in some capacity next season, not as full time people, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Separate the two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think that these two shows were sort

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<v Speaker 2>of verging into the same lane. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>there's only so much space on that road. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the Valley has been such has been such

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<v Speaker 2>a hit and such a that's just getting started. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's sort of like reset the Vanda pump rules thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, reined in. And I think it's really smart,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. And I'm again I'm sad that it's

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the era, but you know, the show

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<v Speaker 2>was reaching its end, its natural endpoint. It really was,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I think that like it had that one

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<v Speaker 2>last burst where it reached heights that had never reached

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<v Speaker 2>before was scandabal and I will always have that moment

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<v Speaker 2>as Bravo fans and people. I mean, it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was such a moment, but it was only going to

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<v Speaker 2>come down from that. You can't you can't sustain that,

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<v Speaker 2>And and I was thinking about it because I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Charm and Vanda Pump Rules sort of started around

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, and they had a similar trajectory at first,

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<v Speaker 2>but then Vanda Pump Rules obviously took it much like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it went to New Heights and Van think

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Charm is more a steady, a steady burn. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting because I'm sort of like it's almost a testament. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>Scandabal was so huge, I mean, you got it. It

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<v Speaker 2>nominated for an Emmy Highest Rate of John Bravo. But

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<v Speaker 2>it may be also as a testament to not have

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<v Speaker 2>a big moment like that, because slow and steady might

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<v Speaker 2>keep you going for longer, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't know, I just think it's so hard

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<v Speaker 2>to come back from that, and sometimes you can get

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<v Speaker 2>too big to sustain, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's true, it's true. No, that's a really good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's felt like when you jump the shark, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>when something is so big, it's sort of like, how

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<v Speaker 1>can you top this? And hard it milked?

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<v Speaker 3>It's so hard to you know, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to do that. In reality, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>scripted world, you have the imagination to come up with

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<v Speaker 1>anything you know on the top of your head, but

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<v Speaker 1>in reality you have to work with real people to

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<v Speaker 1>get real stories. That makes sense. Let's let's let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the original plot of Vanda Pump rule. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the genius idea following Let's let's call it

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Lisa Vanda Pump was the breakout star

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<v Speaker 1>of Belly Hills, right, I mean, fan favorite the whole night.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally, after episode one, I was standing for a

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<v Speaker 1>chimio grammar minority, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, but Lisa Vanner Pump was like the the shiny

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<v Speaker 2>new thing that we've never seen before, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, and she represented Beverly Hill feel Yes, yes

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was. It was over the tiles, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things and the doggies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like it was many ponies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. So I mean her daughter's name is Pandora.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what more do we have to say. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the wealth of that. Okay, So it

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<v Speaker 1>was genius give said to take this breakout star and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a restaurant. You have these kids who work there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. And Brandy Glanville husband slept with a waitress there, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what's happening at your restaurant, pup. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>genius to sort of like do a pilot to see

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on there, what was cooking and and

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why you have to give Bravo props

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<v Speaker 1>because listen up. Bravo is known as a network to

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<v Speaker 1>show the opulent world of the elite. And when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to Vandapart rules, it was it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>risky to say, okay, we have this opulent woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Amandam pomp who has a famous last name. But

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<v Speaker 1>will people be invested in these kids living like being

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<v Speaker 1>roommates like like kind of on this sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>this is no shade but kind of like a mama

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<v Speaker 1>June asked, you know, back, if you will, just very

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<v Speaker 1>like normal and the class isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't attainable attainable, thank you Gibson, much more political correctionable,

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<v Speaker 4>if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So it was risky because the the number one

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<v Speaker 1>demographic for Bravo is high affluent white women, right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the number one demo for that network. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was risky to show these kids not have it all,

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<v Speaker 1>but it goes to show you that story will always

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<v Speaker 1>rule any TV show. Total. It was the personal stories

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<v Speaker 1>of this cast. And they're gorgeous and they're messy and

0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.000
<v Speaker 1>they sleep with each other, but they also are like

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<v Speaker 1>best friends and it's okay to grow. We saw Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian girl from being like, oh that's that girl that

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<v Speaker 1>David ray j to like this bona fide star. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a real conversation. You and I are fans

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<v Speaker 1>of the kardash A lot of people are like famous, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'reself famous. Is like, are you really gonna give us

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<v Speaker 1>the real deal? Like you did when you called it?

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie Bush and had said, who are these floors you're talking? Said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one day you and I would do a podcast episode

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to every nash. But you do put your point,

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson to where you lost the plot. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the problem was these want to be actors and musicians

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<v Speaker 1>became famous and then they became rich. And what was

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. Do you do you think the problem was

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<v Speaker 1>some of the cast members and and and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call their names and you don't have to at all. Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think some of the cast members I E.

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<v Speaker 1>La La Kent, Tom Sandoval, Tom Schwortz, those three to

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<v Speaker 1>me drink the kool aid? If I'm being completely honest, Arianna,

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<v Speaker 1>I think just started sipping the kool aid out of

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<v Speaker 1>her sippy cup, and that was evident in this last

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<v Speaker 1>season where she did not want to even give Tom

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<v Speaker 1>aa conversation on camera. Do you think that's what caused

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<v Speaker 1>this show to lose his luster? Or do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the fact that they became so famous and successful

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<v Speaker 1>that the audience didn't care. Child, We are just getting started.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back into the show. Arianna, I think just

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<v Speaker 1>started sipping the kool aid out of her sippy cup,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was evident in this last season where she

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<v Speaker 1>did not want to even give Tom a conversation on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's what caused this show to lose

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<v Speaker 1>his luster? Or do you think is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they became so famous and successful that the audience didn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I think it was almost this convergence

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<v Speaker 2>of like what's expected of reality stars and what is

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<v Speaker 2>right is good for you as a human.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Arianna put up.

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<v Speaker 2>Some human, very human and very necessary for her own sake,

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<v Speaker 2>boundaries for herself, and that was all I was a

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<v Speaker 2>result of scandaval and being portrayed in real life, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was intension with what you're supposed to do as

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<v Speaker 2>a reality star.

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<v Speaker 3>And so and I.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when Vanderhubtruls was getting to this point and

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<v Speaker 2>sort of post and especially post scandival, something that I

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<v Speaker 2>was saying and thinking about was like, I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>that the way that they could have maybe sustained the

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<v Speaker 2>show for slightly longer is to have leaned into slightly

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<v Speaker 2>breaking the fourth wall and acknowledging their fame in a

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<v Speaker 2>really overt way and really making it like a show

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<v Speaker 2>about reality stars. You know, like if you bring it

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Kardashians. The moments that they can still

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<v Speaker 2>really pique my interest in a big way on the

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<v Speaker 2>show is when they really show me the moment behind

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, Like when there's a big public moment for

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<v Speaker 2>them that we have seen in the headlines already, but

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 2>we don't know what really happened behind the scenes, and

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<v Speaker 2>they show us on the show months later. That gets

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<v Speaker 2>my attention because it shows me how it all worked.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what was the messaging, How who was texting who?

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<v Speaker 2>All that kind of shit. I wanted that on ban

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<v Speaker 2>rules in some capacity, like show me them like with

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<v Speaker 2>their competing celebrity brands and podcasts and whatever, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the real tension here. The real tension is I want

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<v Speaker 2>this cash cow. I still want this job that my

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<v Speaker 2>entire business is based around, and it wouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be too business, ye, I think, because I think that

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<v Speaker 2>if they were allowed to really again overtly talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, it would have freed them up to like

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like they were also kind of talking

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<v Speaker 2>around it a lot of the time, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>an I mean. It was sort of like they could

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge the show, but not really And that was really

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate crux of the issue, was like the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they're on TV and they're expected to show things.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I don't know exactly what that would have

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<v Speaker 2>looked like, but I kind of wish they had pivoted

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit to it being more about the show

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<v Speaker 2>it being a show, if that makes sense, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that would have given them a little more breathing

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<v Speaker 2>room and it would have like it just felt like

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<v Speaker 2>people were walking on eggshells last season until the very

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<v Speaker 2>end when they had that big blow up, which maybe

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<v Speaker 2>was too little, too late.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, no, I agree with you. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the jig is up right. The audience understands that. Guys,

0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.520
<v Speaker 1>we understand you. Guys call the location, you pay them

0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.479
<v Speaker 1>a fee them, you tell the cast where to go,

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<v Speaker 1>you tell them where to be at, you give them

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<v Speaker 1>a call sheet, you give them a schedule. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>audience other stands that. So to your point, breaking the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth wall is fantastic in this day and age because

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<v Speaker 1>the audience wants to feel like, Okay, we know this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't scripted, we know that it's situational, and we're okay

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with it. Yeah. So I love a show when you

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about like, well, no bitch, you said this about

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<v Speaker 1>me on Twitter, or like I watched a fucking episode

0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you said about me last year. I got mad at ya,

0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Like that's real life stuff. And again, it's what we

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<v Speaker 1>want to see, and we just wasn't getting the real

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:42.240
<v Speaker 1>anymore because the reality is like again, it's like I

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.640
<v Speaker 1>love a boy band too. It's like in sync. It's

0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of like how Lance Band spilt the tea, Lance Bass,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me spilt the tea? That look justin temper Lake

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>felt like I don't need you guys anymore, like I'm

0:20:55.320 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>just in Temperlake. And how Lance Bass admits it that

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<v Speaker 1>every male in that group felt like, well, can this

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<v Speaker 1>group move on without justin Timberlake. You know, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in these ensemble shows. So what people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>is this, and I've worked on many ensembles in my lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a breakout star, right what happens Sometimes the

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<v Speaker 1>breakout star gets an ego and they start to say

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<v Speaker 1>to and you don't, you don't. You probably don't know

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<v Speaker 1>this Gibson the breakout star. Some of them starts to

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:44.199
<v Speaker 1>say this while filming, Well, it's my show, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm the star of the show. It's my show.

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm the star of the show. And not only do

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<v Speaker 1>they say that to the producers, they say that in

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<v Speaker 1>front of their cast and Gibson it happens more times

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<v Speaker 1>and you think, and what that does for a cast

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>member is they feel like, well, why am I here?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when you start seeing moments uppear on camera

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<v Speaker 1>when you hear reality starts saying, I'm not giving her

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a moment. She wants a moment. She wants a moment

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<v Speaker 1>because and this is something you may not also know,

0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 1>GiB say, you may know this. The star will not

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<v Speaker 1>film with the person they have an issue with because

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 1>they feel like if I don't film with them, they'll

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>get fired. Let me ice them out. I want them

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<v Speaker 1>out the show. I want them gone. And when you

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 1>have producers say to them, like, guys, it's an ensemble show,

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>like this show is big because all of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. It's it's hard to deal with the ego.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like with the vand the Pump Rules,

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<v Speaker 1>the real lot of egos. There were lots of egos

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>on that show. And I think the only person who

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<v Speaker 1>may not suffered with an ego to me is Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's probably accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that what's also interesting about that dynamic and

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Vander Pump Rules is that Arianna and I've always loved

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<v Speaker 2>her on the show because I always just felt, I

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 2>don't know, she always is like cool and like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of unbothered the whole time, but she was kind of

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 2>a reluctant star of the show because this happened to her,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she became this woman scored, and she kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took advantage of every opportunity as she should have done.

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<v Speaker 3>And she she.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she built her this thing and she capitalized

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<v Speaker 2>on it to an extent where she kind of outgrew

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<v Speaker 2>the show. She's really the only one that I think

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<v Speaker 2>can sustain something completely unrelated to Vander Rules for the

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<v Speaker 2>next five or ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>But gives I'd never cut you off. Baby. You think

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<v Speaker 1>Arianna has thing Papa five years?

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<v Speaker 2>She could host Love Island for the next five years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I give her two years. Max.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I think that she could. I think that

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 2>she could at least host Love Island for a while,

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's enough to sustain a career in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you see her doing anything else with I

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was hosting Love Island.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna be like another Dancing with

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>the Stars big moment or like whatever. But I think

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>that she's made I think that she's built herself enough

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 2>into a recognizable name, more so than her castmates at

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 2>this point, to like a broader swath of people that

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.160
<v Speaker 2>she could be called to do random you know, guests,

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.120
<v Speaker 2>like she's about to do a get like a guest

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and on some show that I've ever heard of. But like,

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 2>I think she can continue to do that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff for a while. Personally, I really do. I will

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>say this, though she has a good agent.

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I will say this. I will say this. I will

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>give Arianna her props when it comes to this. The

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>woman studied, she did hosting.

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 3>She's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm impressed. I got a chance to see some of

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<v Speaker 1>Love Island. I got a chance to see her do

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the Emmy's after party with like nine leaks and Justin Sylvester.

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, Gibson, the woman has what it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only reason why I'm pushing back is this.

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>She was springboarded because of the scandal, and you're she's

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like this reluctant star. I'm gonna say it, And guys,

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it's because I know a lot about how this how

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>this shit works. You got those gigs because of the scandal,

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>because you were on the tip of everyone's time. You're

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>only as good as your last episode. You're only as

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<v Speaker 1>good as your last season. When you when you're agent

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood, sends you offer gigs and they say, Hi,

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I have Arianno Mattos. What shows y'all currently? Well, you

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>know she's hosting Love Island. Is the number one thing

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that showed Peacock okay, is she's so in that show

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Man the Pump Rules that gets two million views a week. No,

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that show is done. Oh can we get Bronway from

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Salt Lake City?

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 4>Because we hear she was talk of the town.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's going to be it. And that's the

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>reason why. Because a lot of people are like, why

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>are you so hard on Arianna? I'm not hard on

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>any of the of my of my reality cast. I

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 1>try to give them advice. My problem with Ariana was

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I wish her agent, her lawyer, her best friend, and

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I saw the producers do it, so shout out to

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the producers. I wish somebody what I said to her,

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>love girl. We don't have that much time to milk

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>this ship. I understand it's a problem. Give give us

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a scene with you and Tom give us because I'm

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>able to at least give you two years of more gigs.

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>And La La, in my opinion, became jealous of Arianna,

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and because La La felt like I give my bluff

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>went in tears and she did.

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 3>She did, Yeah, she did, La La.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 1>To me, to me, to me. Before the scandal, La

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>La was the face of Man the Pump Rules.

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>To me, I think she was the most natural reality

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 2>star on that show and probably still is. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah,

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I star power.

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I low key feel sorry for her because she did

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>give so much of the show. It's like it's like

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>giving yourself to any job and all of a sudden

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you get laid off, you know what I mean?

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, literally, I think I think, and who knows

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 2>what Season two of The Valley really is going to be,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>but I really do think that like that show will

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>ingest one or two of.

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 3>These people at some point, I really do.

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 2>I think you let the dust settle, you kind of

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>let the association or whatever kind of reputation they have

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>from the past year or two kind of fade away,

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 2>and then you bring them back to the If if

0:27:56.320 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Lala basically fades from from TV for the next two

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>years and then they Bravo teases a big return to

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>her on The Valley, I think it would be heralded

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>as kind.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Of a moment, you know what I mean. Like, I

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 3>think that like, you.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Know, everyone loves a return, and we have we have

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>short memories and we're fickle as viewers, and people would

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>like to see her back.

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I think in two years. I really do.

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I really think that. So maybe that's the key to you.

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Maybe just wait it out a little bit and keep

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>doing your podcast and raising your two daughters, and then

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>pitch yourself to Bravo in two years for the Valley

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>season four.

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I actually agree with that. I think listen,

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I think a Lotla is meant to be in reality television.

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>She went too far, she took it to she got,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 2>she got ahead of her herself.

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, Oh she did, she did, she did, and

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the listen. Listen, listen, listen. If you are a

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>reality star, will want to become one. Listen up. You

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>have to have people on your team who tells you

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>things you do not want to hear totally, who challenges you. Okay,

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the moment you push back and you feel like you

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>know everything, some things you are going to know and

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>have an instinct about, and you should ride with that.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>A lot of things you're not going to know because

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you have an emotional reaction to things, and that's going

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to be the problem. So this is what La La says.

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to start reading the reactions of the capah.

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So Lala said, where to begin. I was a young

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>girl from Salt Lake City. I mean, I wouldn't mind

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>seeing La La take Heather down on Salt Lake City.

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>But that's put Lala on secret Lizer woman wives.

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly. Okay, So she talks about La La being

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>her nickname. Sir was a place that became home. She

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>was sipping vodka. Blah blah, blah, blah blah. A short

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>time later, Ben the Porrules called whatever she said. I

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>want to say thank you for rocking with us for

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>so many years. This show changed my whole life. I'm

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>unbelievably grateful for every moment. I'm unbelievably grateful for Bravo,

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>for NBA Universal, for our crew, the entire cast, and

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>most importantly all of you. We rock this bitch out.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a great me too. Now juxtapposed

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>that against Arianna. Okay, this is what she had to say.

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I was up till four o'clock in the morning looking

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>for all the right pictures.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Not this voice changed.

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Carlos GiB said, why are you telling me the first

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>sentence that you stayed up all I'm looking for photos.

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:44.959
<v Speaker 1>That's not a humble woman who feels I digress. I

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was up till four o'clock in the morning looking for

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>all the right pictures and the right words. But there's

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>no post or caption that could ever encapsulate everything. I'm

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>further grateful to Bravo, l Sabana, Pump Evolution, blah blah blah,

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the showrunners, every single remember producer, and our showrunners. She

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>did not mention the cast was at Gibson. I'm bother

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>fucking sorry. I have an issue with that. If it

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't for this cast, who's whose coat tails? You were

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>writing for all of these seasons before Tom decided to

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>stick his pen in another woman while I'm together. This

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>cast carried the show while you were in the back

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>seat wearing a seatbelt drinking up fucking Deer Park bottle water.

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? You have the audacity to sit

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>up and say I'm looking for photos. I want to

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>thank Lisa, Bravo, NBC, the crew, which, yes, the crew

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>is everything, but not your fellow cast members. I did

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>not like that, And you can say what you want

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>about La La, I can't, she said to the entire cast,

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and that to me is a woman that is going

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>to eat this humble pie that she's been fed. And

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:03.239
<v Speaker 1>La La with alone, my advice to you listen to

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>your team because you at least have enough sense to

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:10.719
<v Speaker 1>make sure to bring it back to the cast.

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, I don't agree that Ariana road

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>road coketail. That's not my interpretation of Ariana's time on

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the show. But and I don't we want shady reality stars.

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>It's shady that she didn't that she didn't mention the cast,

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>and if it were me, I would have, but she didn't.

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 3>She's still she's still, you know, holding.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>On to that, and I like the shade. That's that's

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:40.479
<v Speaker 2>a good reality star to me as well. So we

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>we have a different you know, responses to that post.

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, that's okay, okay, No, you and

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I are able to have a healthy debate that that

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>did rub me the wrong way, and.

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I understand that. I understand that I do.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's an ensemble show. You are not

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Diana Roth and are the supremes like, get out of

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>her sister. I'm over it. So last one. I want

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to say because I thought this was funny, is it, Katie?

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, because it's funny. Now your Carlos's Mike just fell

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 2>down because he's freaking out.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>No, it's funny, Carlos, it's funny.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Knock me off my feet. Okay, So so Katie said,

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and I thought that's my first of all, Katie made

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>this her stories, not even posted her feet. And my

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>girl said, that's a mixed bag. But I wouldn't change

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a thing. Thank you for the memories and the love

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>for the last love years. Like it's ax yeah, like whatever,

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>girl like. So, I haven't seen anything from the Toms

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>yet to my team, let me know if you. If

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you see anything, send it to media tax. But yesterday

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>we did find out and Gibson, is this true that

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Tom Schwortz and Tom send the Ball restaurant. It's good.

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 3>They're shutting it down.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>In December they announced, I think one day before you,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>one day before this news came out, they announced they're

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>shotting down the restaurant, Shorts and Sandy's.

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>So but the TMZ article said that.

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>The Phantom Homp Rules cast was informed that the show

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>is being recast last night, which would have been after

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>they announced the restaurant news. So I think I saw

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 2>some people speculating that like it was all timed together.

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 2>But if the cast just found out last night, they

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>would have made this decision about the restaurant probably weeks ago,

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, so maybe they saw the writing on the wall.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know if those two things are related.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just like a double hit of bad

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 2>news for the Toms.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now listen, it's it's it's you never want to

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>see a business suffer through, you know, a situation to

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>where it is no longer is able to like, you know,

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>monetize anything.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Of course, not in the employee. I feel bad for

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>the employees of that restaurant.

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So last one, Sandival said with a heavy heart,

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's about the restaurant. That's what is that way.

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't said any I'm going through all his stories.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 1>As at the time of this recording, Tom Sandaval has

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 1>not released a statement.

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like nobody. I haven't seen anything else

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 2>from anybody else. I want she in a statement.

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Baby Sina wanted this more than Leasta Vanda Pump did.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 2>And and you know what she knows, actually one of

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>those rare people who she did start the show. It

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 2>was all based on her sleeping with Brandy's X or whatever,

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and she she never became bigger than the show, you

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like she I think that, you know,

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>people make jokes like has anybody checked on gena and

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff, but like, ultimately, Sheena

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 2>was kind of down to do whatever it tip took

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>for the sake of the show to continue it, and

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>she was also I think that's kudos to her. You know,

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that she's she's easily the butt of the

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>joke a lot of the time, but ultimately, like she

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>was pretty damn good at her job.

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm keam Sheena as well. I think she's great. Give

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the girl her props, I mean totally. I mean, allegedly

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 1>she had no idea that Eddie was married, So I say,

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>give one of prosperous cheating.

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Not to take it back.

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>saying that.

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 3>But look, but look what we got out of it,

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:55.760
<v Speaker 1>And now listen, Uh, well, life give you limits, Hey, Beyonce,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>make lemonade. As we come to a close, Gibson, John

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and Vanda Pump Rules no longer is going to have

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>the same cast. This cast was as brilliant as the

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>casting in Jersey Shore. You know what I mean when

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you when you look at when you look back on

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>reality television, band, the Pump Rules original cast will always

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>go down as top five the best cast in history

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>of reality television. And I would like to thank the

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>cast for giving us some great moments. I would like

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to thank the producers, the entire crew, Lisa, Vanda Pump,

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Andy Cohen and all Bravo for really providing us with

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a show that really and you don't know this, Gibson.

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>So in my business there was always always always talks

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of what's our.

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Version of Vanda Pump Rules totally?

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Like that was the message that went around the production

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>companies like myself, like find me the other version of that.

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So you have to give the network and the cast

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and at least amound of the Pump and the crew

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>all the props to that. Are you looking forward to

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a new crop of people? It's scary times on our business,

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:18.879
<v Speaker 1>So to invest in a new cast hoping that the

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>audience receives them. Is it is it too risky or

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think is going to pay off in the end.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I hope.

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>So I always come from the perspective of like wanting

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 2>a show to succeed because I love watching reality TV

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 2>and I'd like to watch a good show, you know.

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 2>So I hope that they figure it out. I hope that, like,

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully the people who work at these restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>are just easily castable, and they kind of had that

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>in the back of the mind when they hired them,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 2>and it was like it can kind of like hit

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the ground running. I mean, that's I hope that's the case.

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>And they'll never recreate the magic of early bandit rules ever,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was a different time in our culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Social media was so different.

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<v Speaker 2>Reality TV meant something totally different when it related as

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<v Speaker 2>it related to like general fame, and it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>now it's just seen as a much more like viable

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>path to superstardom, and it wasn't. It wasn't taken as

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 2>seriously before in that regard, you know, And that's why

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 2>we see people like Garcel and people going to reality

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>TV to get to sort of you know, sustain their

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>their fame, and so I hope that they can find

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>that a group of green people who just like are

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 2>just kind of down to do it. And I really

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<v Speaker 2>like and it's again this is it is not van

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 2>on pub rules level, So I'm not saying that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy Southern Hospitality, which is the show that's

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the Southern Charms been off at Lev's Club Republic in Charleston,

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and they hire everybody who worked there. They all have

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 2>built in mess and connections and they're pretty good at

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 2>reality TV. Again, there's some there's some stuff to work

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>out there, but ultimately it's a pretty good show. And

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>so there's proof of concept that like it can still

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 2>work in this era of reality TV to find a

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 2>group of young twenty two, twenty three, twenty four year

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 2>olds who like just kind of they don't really think

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<v Speaker 2>before they act basically, and like they can be messy,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what I want to see. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that like that's in Charleston, South Carolina, where people don't

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>go there to be famous. People go to LA to

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>be famous, and so I would I'm cautiously optimistic that

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>they can that they there are people who fit that

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 2>mold and just are so driven to like do that,

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to make a name for themselves in whatever capacity possible,

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and it results in mess, and like that's ultimately what

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Vandon Pump Rules is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's mess.

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not aspirational to attainable.

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I'm it's sort of like, you know, we'll

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 2>always have Vandam Pupper Rules the first ten seasons. The

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>eleventh season is forgettable. The first ten seasons of the

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>show will always have that never recreate that magic.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 3>But I hope it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope season twelve of the Rules is good because

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they can make it good. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I.

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Long answer, but that's my no.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, it's a lot of listen. Not in your defense,

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of process, a lot to digest. I

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>would I would feel better if Ronnie reboot was great.

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's very tricky. My hope, my hope is this,

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll end with this. My hope is that these people

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 1>have organic friendships, organic relationships that they actually know each other,

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 1>they hang out with each other, and it's not a

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>bunch of strangers that are trying to become friends, and

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a mistake with Ronnie and I will

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>end with this again, do not touch Jersey Housewives. Leave

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it alone, Melissa Gorga. I love you so much. I

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see you back on the show. I

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>want the listen Teresa back breaking news. Do not touch. Wow.

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I never thought i'd hear those words at your mouse,

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Carlos King talk about talk about us coming from different perspectives,

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 2>how the times have changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I am scared. I am nervous about the fate

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 1>of Jersey and after these two breaking news with like

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the horrible reboot of New York City to the reboot

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of Bad Rules. At this point, give me Teresa March

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Melissa Gorgon and I'll listen. I'll deal with this ship later.

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I just Carlos, you're you're giving that meme of Tyra

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 2>where she walks in, She's like, who else was scared?

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Gives it? I love you two pieces, my friend, I

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>really do.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the rain Johnson know again when they can subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>and like and lead great reviews of your amazing podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so my podcast is gaping with Gibb similar discussions

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<v Speaker 2>to what we have here, Carlos has been on and

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<v Speaker 2>yeah most things Reality TV, Bravo. Wherever your podcast Tuesdays

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<v Speaker 1>Follow it, love it, love it, love all right. Gibson,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Rain Dry, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I will see you on the next one. Good night.

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