1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jags Drive Time with John Oshan Hurst and 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Bryan Sexty Sexton James Drive. John starts right now, We're 3 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: about to go to SAP. What a help to st Hell, 4 00:00:50,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: let's go many shot one the time, Hurt Hurt. Honestly, 5 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: I think we could just keep rolling that for the 6 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: next twenty minutes and the numbers would could be the same. 7 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: It's a it's phenomenal and you know Brian Section, by 8 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: the way, along with John Osire here for Jack's Drive 9 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Time on a Monday morning playoff week. We've got lots 10 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: to talk about John over the last when that's five 11 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: straight wins, but over the last month we've seen a 12 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: lot of celebration and enjoyment of the moments with this team, 13 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, the late season surge and the success. But 14 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: that video right there tells you the difference between a 15 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: regular season win and essentially a playoff win, which was 16 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: what Saturday night was well and it shows you the 17 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: h everything, the buy in, the enthusiasm, the love of 18 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, the love of these guys have of each other, 19 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: and it's been a real thing this year throughout um 20 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: though it was cool Ray Sean Jenkins and Josh Allen 21 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: hugging Dug and you just thought what these guys went through, 22 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, only way we went through. And that's an 23 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: old storyline now, but for those guys, that's really not 24 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: an old story you know, it's they went through a 25 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: lot veteran guys. Ray Sean Jenkins comes in here last 26 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: year under a completely different circumstance, and I keep talking 27 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: about these veterans, these free agent veterans who all of 28 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: a sudden it become leaders. And then I think you 29 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: also saw the youthful enthusiasm around this the freshness, the 30 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: newness that I talked about last week. As a player 31 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: and as a team, you only get this feeling once. 32 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I think this team is gonna be good for a 33 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: long time. But you only get this feeling of wow, 34 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: we've arrived. You only get to be young ones. And 35 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: that's what that felt like. And uh, you know for 36 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: two old men, which we are now Ryan, when we 37 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: experienced the word, I liked it. Yeah, well it makes 38 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Sason's nice old real. So for a couple of guys 39 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: who experience this, is that again. And I think what's cool. 40 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned this a couple times last week. There's a 41 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: lot of Jaguars fans now who were young and are 42 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: probably now mid forties, who have kids who are Jaguars 43 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: fans who they who are probably sick of their dad 44 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: talking about how great ninety six was. Kids. This is it. 45 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: So now we fast forward, uh to Saturday night, and 46 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: just a quick thought before we get two big things. 47 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: This team last week I felt like they were relaxed, 48 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: like they were ready for it. I didn't. I didn't 49 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: sense attention in the locker room or on the practice field. 50 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: And yet, how could you How could you not walk 51 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: out into that Bowl with the towels twirling and seventy 52 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: thousand plus fans who were there to see you and 53 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: not to see you play the game, but win the 54 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: game because the expectations the Jags were gonna win. There's 55 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: no way. I don't care who you are, there's no way. 56 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: You don't feel that for at least some period of time. 57 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: And I thought, I thought, Doug Um, and this is 58 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: not remotely criticism a criticism, I think it was the 59 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: right thing to do. I thought he coached to that 60 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: a little bit, not manage yeah, not well, and in 61 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: the game, not wanting to have the team make a 62 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: fatal mistake in the first half. Uh, that sort of 63 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: exacerbated that feeling of pressure, if you will, because I 64 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: think it was real thing. It was a young team. 65 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: He's trying to get him through that game as best 66 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: he could. Um, you know, I didn't want to put 67 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in a situation where he threw a pick 68 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: to the side and it goes for pick six and 69 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're down seventeen. Oh no, here 70 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: we go, you know the So I think that was there. 71 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to be there. Everything it was there. Uh, 72 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: that's said. I don't think it's going to be there 73 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: at all this week, And that's my heart takes. I'll 74 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: let you hold off on that one. So let's roll 75 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: writ into big things and we'll start with five and five, 76 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: five wins and five losses. The Jaguars experienced that five 77 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: game losing streak in October had all of us either 78 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: scratching our heads, are pulling our hair out, depending on 79 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: who you are, And now they end the season on 80 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: a five game winning streak. It's the highs, it's the lows. 81 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: The head coach immediately after the game was able to 82 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: put some perspective on what this team went through and 83 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: how it helped them get to where they are at 84 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: this moment. I think it means everything, you know, to 85 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: these guys that have been here. You know, they were 86 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: at an ultimate low coming off the last season obviously, 87 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: and and um, now they're they're right now, they're an 88 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: ultimate high with with more football to play. And so 89 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, and that's really the the roller coaster 90 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: ever emotions that a football season can can bring. But 91 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, these guys, the guys that have been here, Um, 92 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: you can see it in their faces just how how 93 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: excited and proud and and um, it's not relief, but 94 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: it's it's um, it's enthusiasm, and it's it's it means 95 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: everything to them. They take it to heart and and um, 96 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: it's something that we can we can continue to build upon. 97 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: By by any we're not where we need to be 98 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: or want to be. But at the same time, you know, 99 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: we're building it, and we're building it one you know, 100 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: kind of one piece, one player, one game at a time. 101 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: And this was a really good start for us this year. 102 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Big thing too good enough and the Jaguars defense has 103 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: been you know, during that five game losing stretch, the 104 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars languished statistically speaking, in the bottom of the league. 105 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: They were just giving up too many yards and too 106 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: many points, and they gave up some fourth quarter leads 107 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: that had us wondering where this defense would be. However, 108 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: as we have seen in recent weeks, as the Jaguars 109 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: surged in takeaways and they finished the season with twenty seven. 110 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: A year ago they had nine seven, this defense pushed 111 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: a little bit here and there, yet when they have to, 112 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: they make the play. Good enough is good enough. I 113 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing, uh, we can take away just 114 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: from those two moments is the sense of urgency. We 115 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: kind of knew how the game was going. You know, 116 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: they was running the ball and then they was given 117 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: that there was going the ball quick. So if he 118 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: was going to draw back past, he gonna get it 119 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: all quick. So since the urgency had to be there, 120 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: so Harden to go out there and make a play 121 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: with He's been getting pressure with again, pressure all game, 122 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: and you know that one a little second when he 123 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: held it just a little bit longer, we made a 124 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: play making a play. Since the urgency, man, I gotta 125 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: watch that tape. Man, he cut that corner, so clean. 126 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: I've just seen it too, brother, it was clean. Uh, 127 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: but again, since the urgency, it's the it's the it's 128 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: the plan for one another is to know if he 129 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: do his part, I'm gonna do my part and we're 130 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Hold onto that last part because 131 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: it's my hot take and I want to tie you 132 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: into it. Finally better than ever. Hey, look, John said, 133 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: we're old. We're certainly seasoned. We've been here. Both of 134 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: us were here during that run in nine and in 135 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: ninety nine. We've seen the stadium when it hasn't been 136 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: at its best and when it's been really good. On 137 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: Saturday it was as good it's just ever been. It 138 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: says a lot just you know, just how the fans 139 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: have rallied around us this year as this season has 140 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: gone on, and you know, obviously late in the year 141 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: like like we've been playing and to see the stadium 142 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: pat tonight was was awesome. One of the best game 143 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: environments I've I've been in, honestly, So it was it 144 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: was special. They were loud all game. Um, it's really 145 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: really cool. It's a cool experience that I always remember that. 146 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: So hopefully we'll do the same thing next week. We're 147 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna need it, so it'll be fun. And speaking of 148 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: next week, UF again prime time Saturday night for the 149 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: second consecutive week. Obviously, that's the first time that's happened 150 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: in franchise history. And I'm told that the game is 151 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: very close to being sold out on a Monday, And 152 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't always happen with playoff tickets, right because people 153 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: don't necessarily budget that, and it's just after Christmas, so 154 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta work to get the playoff tickets sold. 155 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's not the case. People are snatching them up 156 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: left and right. You know, there's so much to talk 157 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: about that we won't get to everything today. But something interesting, 158 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: and it maybe interests me because I was here in 159 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: nineties six, and I was and I was here as 160 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: a kid when you know, the whole trying to get 161 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: the franchise thing. And then I've gotten to know a 162 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: lot of Jaguars fans through social media, through the Bold 163 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: City regade, through through the people that I like and 164 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: respect and I feel like I care about at this point, Um, 165 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: here's what's interesting, Brian. When they won in nineties six, 166 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: when they got good in the nineties, Um, nobody knew 167 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: how hard it was because it happened so fast. Well, 168 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: guess what, Jaguars fans know how hard it is now 169 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: so um and and I'm making light of a little bit. 170 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: But if you're a fan, you have seen for ten 171 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: years how hard it is and how rare it can be, 172 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: and you've suffered within the context of what football means 173 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: for suffering. But as a fan, you've suffered, You've cried, 174 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: you've been lampooned by the national media, you've been told 175 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: you're not a good fan. Um. So, I think in 176 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: that sense for a lot of fans, for a huge 177 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: core of this that Saturday Night was special in a 178 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: way that the nineties couldn't have been. Because the nineties 179 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: they got good so fast. I'm not taking down what 180 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: they did. It was a great era, but they got 181 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: good so fast that even me, as a reporter covered 182 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: in the league, I didn't realize how hard it was 183 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: to get good. And then I go to Indy and 184 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: you know they're good every year. Well, the last ten 185 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: years have taught me that. You know, as hard as 186 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: I knew it was, it's really hard. So all the 187 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: fans watching, all the fans have watched this on the podcast, 188 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: whatever enjoy it. I know you are, and you've earned 189 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: these moments and it's about to get fun again. So this, 190 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: this first block of of our shoulder this morning, is 191 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: about perspective. So before we take a break and come 192 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: back with highlights, here's the perspective for you. If you 193 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: were to put a symbol next to January nine two, 194 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: which is the day that the Jaguars beat the Colts 195 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: and knocked them out of the playoffs, it still would 196 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: have been a question mark, Right, what did one cost 197 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in this team in terms of progress and 198 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: what was going to happen in terms of who they 199 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: were going to hire and what they were going to 200 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: get done in year two with Trevor. Well, here we 201 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: are one year later. That was st five days ago 202 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: today and the gesture is exclamation point, right, So with 203 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: a bullet what they've done in one year from that 204 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: void to this mountaintop, it can't go unnoticed or unspoken. 205 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: It's epically, unbelievably, dramatically an incredible turnaround. Yeah, and again, 206 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: fancy get tired of comparison, but it's sort of a 207 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: benchmarkt And I'm not finding that people like to be 208 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: able to tie into the history of this team. Um, 209 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: but in a way it was and again taking nothing 210 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: away from those guys because what they did was hard 211 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: and what they did was incredible, and they went and 212 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: one in the postseason. But in a way, Doug had 213 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: even a higher or a a a a more difficult 214 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: bar or uh not bar, but uh, I guess journey 215 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: because he had to erase a lot first, like he 216 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: had to. He talked about it in the spring. Yeah, 217 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: he had to build that trust and he had to 218 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: get that thing gone. Um. You know, Tom sort of 219 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: had a clean slate. So whatever culture was here, you 220 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: saw the man was in the walls. I mean he was. 221 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: He was the culture and always was. And so it's 222 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: it's a phenomenal job. You know. People always say, well, 223 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: did you know, because I knew when Doug got here 224 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: that at some point given time, he was gonna win. 225 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: He was the guy because he's too stable, et cetera. 226 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: And you say, you know, I don't know if you knew, 227 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: but I said, boy, if anybody has a shot to 228 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: do this, it's him. He was the right guy. I 229 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: didn't think be this quick. It felt good when he 230 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: showed up. Yeah, and there's coaches who talk about being 231 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: the right head coach for a situation, and you talk 232 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: about being consistent, and you talk about talking about being 233 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: able to weather storms, and then there's coaches who are 234 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: really built to do that. This guy is built to 235 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: do that. And the job that he did during October, 236 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: when I know he knew they should have been winning, 237 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: just to be calm the whole thing. Uh, It last 238 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: a lasting impression on those players, and not all coaches 239 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: can do that. And this organization now feels like by 240 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: the way that he's in the walls, that this place 241 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: has adopted or at least it's gone a long way 242 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: towards taking his personality. You're not scared of the walls 243 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: jumping out and not yelling. Actually, it feels pretty good. 244 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: All right, We'll take a break when we come back. 245 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Some highlights in commentary from Saturday night's big win over 246 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,359 Speaker 1: the Titans, giving the Jaguars a f C South championship 247 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: feels good to say it. We'll say it a lot 248 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: this week as we roll on with Judge Drive Time. 249 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time on a Monday morning, presented by our 250 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: friends at car Shield and time for some highlights to 251 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: relive Saturday night. Now, reliving it means we've got to 252 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: go through the rough spots to get to the great moment. 253 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: And we'll start with the fumble in the first half, 254 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people had their heart 255 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: in their throat at that moment. Seven straight completions by 256 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: the way, now for Trevor Lawrence after his first pass 257 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: because any complaint and this calls on the ground and 258 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: recovered by Tennessee Henry the crush wegs tags calls. That's 259 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: on shot pass thoughts touchdown and at that point the 260 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars are down tend to nothing, and all you can 261 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: think of is what are you doing? Well? Yeah, and 262 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: I heard that a lot from people in twenty one 263 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: almost house that, Um, but I know what Doug was doing. Uh. 264 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: He wanted to have some Yeah, I'm saying misdirection. I'm 265 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: not looking for the other word. He wanted to have 266 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: some creativity and some things to make the Titans think 267 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: without taking huge risk. Well, they fumble. It was a 268 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: huge risk. As a play caller, your feel for that 269 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of a play is it's really shouldn't be a 270 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: huge risk. So he was trying to strain the defense. 271 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: I think without putting undue pressure or risks on himself 272 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: meeting as a play caller, as an offense. And when 273 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: you fumble, well, when you're drawing that up, I don't 274 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: think you predict the fumble, uh, or you wouldn't do 275 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: it obviously, But when you're drawing that up, that seems 276 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: safer than it looks in retrospect. Uh. And you know, 277 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: again one difference in this team, you're downten nothing. Uh. 278 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: I'll admit I. You know I started writing a little 279 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: bit the other way because you can here we go again. Uh, 280 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: but this is not here we go again, Team no. 281 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: And they proved it with the next kickoff and the 282 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive drive two thursdays ago, and it's tend nothing Tennessee. 283 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: Dagner brings it up. Look it up, Jagner down there 284 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: and make fair and making some making some good decision 285 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: under three to go in the first time Lawrence came 286 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: down Jack Wars and that was an absolute laser. I mean, look, 287 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: all three phases. You wanna talk about complimentary football at times, 288 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: they did play that on Saturday Night and to have 289 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: that fifty four yard return to set up this laser 290 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: of a pass from Trevor to Christian Kirk, all of 291 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: a sudden everything felt better. Yeah, And I think I've 292 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: gotten some emails in the last few days or since 293 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: game of people very worried about the offense. Well, they 294 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: only scored this, only scored that. Yeah, they didn't produce 295 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: other way they wanted to, and they all said that 296 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: after the game. I think if if you look at 297 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: it from a are you worried about the production standpoint? Though, Um, 298 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: they gave away eleven points in the first half with 299 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: the fumble and then when Trevor miss a in the 300 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: end zone, so yeah, you should have gotten the points 301 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: and its open the scoreboard. But in terms of how 302 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: the offense is functioning, um, you know, I don't think 303 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: it was a broken offense the other night by any stretch. 304 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: I think just the circumstances kept them from sort of 305 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: getting the scoreboard lead, the scoreboard edge they wanted. Uh, 306 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: and of course you got a close I mean, the 307 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: fumble didn't count as a red zone failure because I 308 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: think it was at the twenty one or something, but 309 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: it was it felt like a red zone and that's 310 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: put a storyline we followed all season long. Yeah, so 311 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: in that game, they gave away eleven possible red zone 312 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: pin points early. If you look at it that way, 313 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 1: it hasn't been there m O late. I don't think 314 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: the EMO going four, but it hurt him on Saturday, 315 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: all right. So the Jaguars drive down, get a field 316 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: goal to start the third quarter, and then the Titans 317 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: get a field goal on their ensuing drive. So you're 318 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: down sixteen ten and wondering what's it gonna take. Maybe 319 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: a takeaway is all they needed in this possession. Jobs 320 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: airs it out, Berks, let's talk get his TA intercepted 321 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: dot Campbell great returned about at twenty five time throughout 322 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: the night and when it mattered most sements was there 323 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: to make the play thirty six yarder by Patterson and 324 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: that's three points off the turnover. So there you are 325 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: down sixteen thirteen, John and now feeling like it might 326 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: be the team that has the ball last. Yeah, different, 327 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: a little different circumstance, but didn't feel like you could 328 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: have superimposed a j boy onto that play. And you know, 329 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: against the Chargers back in two thousand seven team and 330 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: again we make these comparisons right down that same sideline, 331 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: not taking anyway away them players who do it. But 332 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: it just seemed like that and I feel like, oh, 333 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: that's the kind of play they need. Uh and and 334 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: uh again, we talked a lot credit to Tyson campbell 335 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: um probably wasn't the hardest interception he's ever made in 336 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: his life, but turned back to the ball, got eyes 337 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: on it. Uh. And a big play that even though 338 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: they didn't get seven out of it in a game 339 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: like that, three points momentum swayings. Huge play. So now 340 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: you're down to sixteen thirteen heading into the fourth quarter. 341 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: Want to show you a couple of defensive plays. Don't 342 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: lead to scores or anything like that, but just to 343 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: show you how the Jaguars defense boat up. We'll start 344 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: with Trayvon Walker had a big one wiped out because 345 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: of a penalty. Second and five. Here is a game, 346 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: and now that play was made out on the end 347 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: dobs is by time by Robertson Harris and the play 348 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: by Trayvon Walker. How many people can do this to 349 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry right, Derek's trying to stiff arm him and 350 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: that is not happening. Yeah, and I get what the 351 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: storyline is gonna be. Eight and Hudginson headed had a 352 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: nice game last night. Okay, this this wasn't a sack. 353 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: So in the dialogue in the off season, nobody's gonna 354 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: talk about that play because all the matters of sacks anymore. Um. 355 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: But Trayvon forced a big play in the first half 356 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: on on Saturday by drawing a hold that took away 357 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: a by Josh um So making an impact. Um. You know, 358 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: I can't control offseason narratives. But Traymont Walker played really 359 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: well the other night. I think if you were a 360 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: fan of this football team, when you watch forty four 361 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: on the Roy Robertson Harris sack, he forced it. He 362 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: forced Dobbs to shoot up the middle and Roy just 363 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: dumped him. He was pushing the pocket and h his 364 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: his presence was dictating what the Titans were doing at 365 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: times the other night, and they were dictating the Titan 366 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: And I know we're you know, I'm short in time. 367 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: I thought they did a great job defensively, young quarterback, 368 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: pushing him back, pushing him back towards his own goal line. Pressure, 369 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: pressure all through the second half, and it finally broke them. 370 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: And so I have to set this up. Seven left 371 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: to play. I get on the elevator with Fred Taylor 372 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: to go to the field to host post game, and 373 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: I closed my laptop and I had just written quick 374 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: thoughts and it was tough way to end the season 375 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: because Derrick Henry was running for first downs and it 376 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: felt like they were gonna be able to run the 377 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: clock out on the Jaguars. Between the time that the 378 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: doors closed at the top and the doors opened at 379 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: the bottom, this happened. Dobbs is hit from behind, the 380 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: balls out. They're calling us a flock at the moment, 381 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: and they returned by Allen for the touch stock Jenkins 382 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: hit Tobbs from now it's a touchdown. So the elevator 383 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: doors open, and I'd say to Fred, it seems things 384 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: might have changed, and we raced to the field. Yeah, 385 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: and again some mus talking about this game, but it Uh, 386 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: I kind of laughed when Jeane fre Nett Aulorida Times 387 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: even a few weeks ago, was writing the Team of 388 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: Destiny story. But when you basically bounced past a perfect 389 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: bounce past thirty yards of bumble, this couldn't have gone 390 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: better into Josh Allen's hands. Uh, what a moment. And 391 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, they worked their butts off for the 392 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: entire second half the defense, grinding, grinding, grinding, trying to 393 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: get that play, and credit to him, they got it. 394 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: And isn't there some iron new the fact that that 395 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened if Josh Allen had been rushing the 396 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: past or instead he was back in coverage. And we've 397 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: talked about that, you know a lot this year about 398 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: Alan and coverage maybe not being the best situation. It 399 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: certainly was, and that, of course leads to this leading 400 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: to ten points off the turnovers and they allowed just 401 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: three second half points. Lawrence takes a knee and the 402 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: Titans look like they're gonna let it go, a team 403 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: that had won four games total over the last two years, 404 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: and Duck Peterson told us, I want to win this 405 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: for shod shot con and is eleventh year is owner 406 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: here with the Jaguars, beloved, willing to spend, dying to win, 407 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: and nine of the previous ten years he had had 408 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: losing seasons, just the one winning year in seventeen when 409 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: they went to the a f C champ game. And 410 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: they have done it. Jaguars had won the a f 411 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: C South fifth straight win and it was the first 412 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: time they have swept the Titans. It's two thousand and 413 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: six and did that feel good? Yeah, and only the 414 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: second time in franchise history they've done it. Um all 415 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: the things we talked about last week, Brian that are significant. 416 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: One the South and beat every team in the South 417 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: for the first time. So you you can sort of 418 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: walk around with your chest out that you really want 419 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: it and and you you earned this. And as arden 420 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: Key said, they they run the South and U for 421 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: fans who have waited for this, what a cool feeling 422 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: and what a cool night. And interesting to me that 423 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: you've had two winner take all games in this franchise's history. 424 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: And you could argue that out of those two games 425 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: came to plays that are among the top what two 426 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: or three of all time and maybe the most unlikely. 427 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean Morten Anderson missing happens one out of a 428 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: hundred times, he had fifty nine consecutive That ball bouncing 429 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: that way to Josh Allen. The if you went out 430 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: and through that to Josh Allen a hundred times, it 431 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: would go a million different ways before it bounced right 432 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: into his hands. Dead run picks it up. Uh, maybe 433 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: it's fate, but it's pretty cool. All Right, We'll take 434 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: a break when we come back. Hot takes from Saturday 435 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: night's victory and looking ahead to this Saturday night's playoff 436 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: game against the Los Angeles Chargers. Called car shield Now. 437 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: If your car's out of manufacturer's warranty, don't get stuck 438 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: with expensive mechanical and computer screen repairs called car shield now. 439 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: Claws up. Okay, I thank you. Obviously, it's a feeling 440 00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: hard to describe. I'm speechless. But Doug Tramp their staff obviously, 441 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: the players, um, you know what are difference they've made. 442 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: And really people showing up the fourteen and man and 443 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: woman in the stands that got us over the edge. 444 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: You could just see the look in his eyes as 445 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: you stood outside the locker room in the early morning 446 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: hours of Sunday mornings, and how much he enjoyed that. 447 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: And and good for Shot, I mean, uh, last year's 448 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: time everybody knows all all all the Christians and all 449 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: the fans stuff after Urban Meyer uh and and shot 450 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: famously with that, Hire said I got it right this time. 451 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Well a year later he hit it out of the park. Um. 452 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: And as much as people when teams lose ownership is 453 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: always gonna get criticized, uh wrongly in this case, in 454 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Um, But since he has been here, 455 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: Shot has spent and spent and spent and tried to 456 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: win and wanted to win. It sometimes takes time as 457 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: an owner to figure out everything and to get it right. 458 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: And there can be an element of good fortune that 459 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: you need as an owner because you are hiring people 460 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: that you've done the betting work on. But you still 461 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: need luck. You still need things to happen. Right. Uh, 462 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: it's happening right now. Things are going in the right direction. 463 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna enjoy a lot of years of 464 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: success now. Good for him, good man, I'm so happy 465 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: for him. Alright, time for hot takes here on Jack's 466 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: Drive time on a Monday morning, and we'll start with you. Uh, 467 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: I was, I was still wallowing in my shod take. Um. 468 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: The Jaguars offense must be bolder on Saturday to win. 469 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna have more time this week to 470 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: talk about next week's game. Uh, they must be bolder. 471 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I had said last week a lot that I thought 472 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in order from them to beat the Titans, 473 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: I thought he needed to play though he needed to 474 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: be special Trevor, which he had been against the Titans 475 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: before and against Dallas, and hadn't been in the two 476 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: weeks leading up to it. He had a couple of 477 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: moments where you have special Trevor um. But I think 478 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: they need that back on Saturday, and I think Doug 479 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: Peterson and the offenses of approach will be far more aggressive. 480 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Uh And I think they will be bolder, and I 481 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: think that's why they will win. I expect him to 482 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: win on on Saturday because of that. I don't think 483 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: they can win playing the way they did on Saturday 484 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: against the Charge. But at the same time, as Doug 485 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: has said often this year, the circumstances of a game 486 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: dictate to how you play. I don't think they'll play 487 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: the same way as they did against Tennessee. I think 488 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: they'll be bold against the Chargers, and I expect him 489 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: to be much freer going after it. I don't say 490 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: nothing to lose, because he always has something to lose. 491 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: It will be a looser team on well, because they 492 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: look they're playing with house money. This year, they have 493 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: exceeded the expectation. They have won the division. They have 494 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: won nine games, and we spent the entire summer talking 495 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: about six seven probably seemed right for this team. So 496 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: I think you can come out and play loose because 497 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: you are now playing with house money. My take on 498 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: your take if they're gonna do that and be bold 499 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: and go and score thirty points, which I think you 500 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: need to beat Los Angeles. Travis E t N has 501 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: to have a big game and and and obviously the 502 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: Titans are one of the best run defenses in football, 503 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: and for the second consecutive matchup with E t N 504 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: they took him out of the game. You need him. 505 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: I think he opens everything up for Ingram coming across 506 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: the middle and Zay Jones down the field. I think 507 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: the threat of E. T N is critical this week. 508 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: I also think too again, we've got so much time 509 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: to dig into the manager the matchup. One reason that 510 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: the offense against Tennessee didn't really get that smooth feeling 511 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: is the Titans did the same thing the Texans did 512 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: to him in week five. Shorten the game. You know, 513 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: I had a nine minute drive in the first half. 514 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: They're running play Cock down to two. When you're doing that, 515 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: you get out of rhythm offensively, and every time every 516 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: time you have the ball, you feel like it's almost 517 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: like a home run hitter. When he's hitting against a 518 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: guy who's pitching no no hitter, your hands get tight 519 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: and you're swinging for the fences every time, and it 520 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: reduces your chance of success. I don't think this game 521 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: Saturday will have that We've got to score now feeling 522 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: because we're not getting the ball back for an hour 523 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: and a half. All right, here's mine and I'll say 524 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: that number two, rays Sean Jenkins is the Jaguars defense. 525 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Now you're thinking, of course, he's got the two biggest 526 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: plays of the year, the interception returned against Dallas that 527 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: won the game in overtime, and to play on Saturday night. 528 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: But it's more to the point that ray Sean Jenkins 529 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: was the target of the Titans offensive game plan. They 530 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: ran everything to the sidelines. They tried to get matchups 531 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: with him because he's not a coverage safety and he 532 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: was chasing left and right, and he's aggressive, and they 533 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: were trying to take advantage of his aggressiveness, and so 534 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: he gave up a couple of third down and fourth 535 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: down conversions. However, when the game was on the line, 536 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: when they needed to play the most, he comes up 537 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: with the biggest play of the season. And that's really 538 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: the personality of this Jags defense. I talked to earlier 539 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: John that there are statistically challenged in terms of their rankings. Right, 540 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: They're not a team that's gonna rank in the top ten. 541 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: They're not a team that's gonna shut everybody down and 542 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: keep people off the scoreboard. Yeah. I mean, they did 543 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: it against the Jets and against the Texans, but they 544 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: didn't do it against the Cowboys, and they didn't do 545 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: it against the Lions, and they didn't do it against 546 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. However, when the time comes they need to 547 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: make a play. In the last five weeks, they've made 548 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: huge plays. Twenty seven takeaway twenties, increase from a year ago. 549 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: And there's no no player that personifies this defense better 550 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: than ray Sion Jenkins. Think about this, if you're I 551 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: don't know where ray Sean Jenkins will finish his career 552 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: here ranked among the all time Jaguars defensive players. I 553 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: do know that if you're you know, if you walk 554 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: the hallways inside this office, there are pictures of some 555 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: of the biggest plays in Jaguars history. He has two 556 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: of them. Um, if if if you took a picture 557 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: of the moment that he hit Josh Dobbs the other 558 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: night and the moment that he broke free against Dallas, 559 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: you would have two of what the biggest six seven 560 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: defensive plays in this franchise is history defensive plays maybe 561 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: higher than that. I mean, yeah, it just um a 562 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: remarkable run again for a month for a guy who 563 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: again I can't tell you how unusual it is for 564 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: a free agent to come in and the circumstances he 565 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: came in, navigate that and then turn into sort of 566 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of guys go in the tank, 567 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: they want out even when they're still around. They just 568 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: just don't quite fit into it. You've seen it a 569 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: million times. Um, none of the freedoms have done that, 570 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: but ray Sean, you know, seems in a way to 571 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: personify that. I'm hoping to get him on as the 572 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: ozone podcast. I love talking to him and thought, you know, uh, 573 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: what a cool story he has become this year. Alright, Folks, 574 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: the Jack sin Bille Jaguars would like to thank j e. 575 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: A's frontline teams for all the work they do to 576 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: help our community thrive. Please help us recognize j E. 577 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: A's frontline Team of the Game, representing the two thousand 578 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: employees who worked hard to serve you each and every day. 579 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: And our j e A lineman of the game from 580 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: the Jaguars is Devon Hamilton John who was seemingly all 581 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: over the interior of the line against Derrick Henry on 582 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Saturday night. Yeah, this, if Trayvon Walker was a true 583 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, maybe we go to that direction because Trayvon, 584 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: again I was outstanding. And Josh Allen, if he was 585 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: a true defensive lineman three or four. Maybe they are, 586 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: maybe they aren't, But I don't know the stats, and 587 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anybody on the on the defensive 588 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: line staff about this, but it seemed like every time 589 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: you looked up he was making a play. He was 590 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: making a play. And I guess you could say, well, 591 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's still got yards or whatever. But I thought 592 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: what they did well okay. And I think most NFL 593 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: people would tell you, if you can make Derrick Hennry 594 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: work that hard for his hundred yards, then you're putting 595 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: over the course of the game, which they did. I think. Yes, 596 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry got eight and then seven a couple of 597 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: times and got them out of situations. But then there 598 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: were also a lot of times where they got him 599 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: and then they're facing third and twelve or third and eight, 600 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: and I thought that's what they had to do, and 601 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: that's what they did. Late in the game. They got 602 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: better at that, and all of a sudden, the Titans 603 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: were trying to come out of their own end zone 604 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: facing bad down in distance, and the Jaguars got him 605 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times on that took advantage of the 606 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: young quarterback. Uh So, I think you play sixty minutes 607 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: and you grind against the Titans, you wait for those 608 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: big plays. They earned the chances to make their big 609 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: plays at the end of the game by limiting Henry, 610 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: and Devon was a big part of that. All right. 611 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: He's our j e, a lineman of the game. 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I want a lot of Shaky 628 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: Futures awards in high school run and did you ever 629 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: think about study enthusiology? I I sometimes thought about studying 630 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: good to see all right? Um, just quickly, another prime 631 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: time game Saturday night. Um, we talked ad nauseum and 632 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: we will about this team. But just a quick thought 633 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: on the Los Angeles Chargers who come in on the 634 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: the loss in Denver, but they didn't need to win 635 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: because their playoff they found for the game. Did the 636 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: playoff issue was seated? I haven't really checked on it, 637 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: but it seems like they played their guys and the 638 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: two injuries and had a couple of injuries. It could 639 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: be major. They'll be storylines all week. Um, Joey Bosa, Yeah, 640 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: and um Mike wams And I said, so two key guys. 641 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: They were beat up when the Jags went out there. 642 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: I don't really take much uh so long ago. Yeah, 643 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: there's not much to be had. It was, you know, 644 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: it was where the Jaguars knew what they were. I'm 645 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: sure the Chargers are different. Um, but one factor here 646 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: that that does play in. Chargers played Sunday, Jaguars played Saturday, 647 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: and the Chargers are to go to Denver. Had to 648 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: go home and that week that can matter. So we'll see. 649 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: All right, we'll find out more. We've got a big 650 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: show plan for you on Wednesday. More details to come. 651 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars and Chargers in the Wild Card Round from t 652 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: i A A Bank Field in Jacksonville. Buckle up, folks, 653 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna be another fun week to be a Jaguars fan. 654 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: And we'll say goodbye and see you on Wednesday with 655 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: another edition of Jags Drive Time