WEBVTT - Q&A: Taylor Gooch, Brooks, Game Improvement & Learning

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butch podcast. We come to

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<v Speaker 1>you every Wednesday solo edition of the pod. This week,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got back from two weeks Adelaide in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>was down there for the live tournaments. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a really really interesting week for Live at Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what side of this debate that you're on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll keep saying this, I just don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>there is this debate. We are seeing great golf. We

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<v Speaker 1>see great golf on the PGA Tour, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching live, if you're trying to say that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing great golf, I don't know what you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>because I work with players on live and I see

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<v Speaker 1>them doing the exact same thing that they did there

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<v Speaker 1>that they did when they played the PGA Tour. I

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentally don't understand why there seems to be this choice

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to make between the PGA Tour and Live.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, it's golf, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you are a fan of golf, you can watch golf

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you want to. You can see great golf on

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour. You can see great golf on the

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<v Speaker 1>LPGA Tour. You can see great golf on the DP

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<v Speaker 1>World Tour, and you can see great golf on Live.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if you look at the caliber of

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<v Speaker 1>players that are playing on live, I think it's naive

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<v Speaker 1>to say that they're not great players because that's where

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<v Speaker 1>they chose to go to. I think the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the live guys performed at the Masters went a long

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<v Speaker 1>way to debunking this myth that everybody that went to

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<v Speaker 1>live their careers were over, that they were washed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think after the Masters, the narrative that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that are anti live were trying to portray

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<v Speaker 1>that the players were at war with each other and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't like each other. I think everybody saw that

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<v Speaker 1>that was not the case, and I think you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>great golf. I think brooks Kepka, I'm currently working with

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks Kepka. Brooks is playing some of the best golf

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him play. The way his golf swing is working,

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<v Speaker 1>the way his body is working, the caliber of golf

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<v Speaker 1>he is playing right now is very, very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>the golf that he was playing in twenty nineteen when

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<v Speaker 1>he was the number one player in the world and

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<v Speaker 1>win in majors. At a pretty steady click. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Mickelson the resurgence of the way Phil Mickelson is

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<v Speaker 1>playing after playing the way he played in the Masters

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<v Speaker 1>at his age, the way he played over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. And my issue with the anti live

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<v Speaker 1>people are I would say the majority of them have

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<v Speaker 1>never come to an event. They don't watch any of

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<v Speaker 1>the events, they don't come to any of the events,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything they hear is rumor or hearsay. They are

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<v Speaker 1>not part of the live ecosystem. They're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, they're not talking to the players. They've chosen

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<v Speaker 1>to make up their own mind. And there seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me to be more of a push from the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour side to choose between the PGA Tour and Live

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<v Speaker 1>than the live guys. And I just fundamentally don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why you have to make a choice. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of golf, you can choose to watch your

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<v Speaker 1>golf wherever you want to watch it, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>choose to watch the players that you like wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch them. So I just don't get what

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<v Speaker 1>the beef is to me this this current state of

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<v Speaker 1>Live versus the PGA tour and this choice that in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, Jay Monahan and the Boys and Pana Vidral

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to have to make is we don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that in other sports. And you know the easy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's NASCAR and there's Formula one, right, And if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't watched the Drive to Survive Netflix documentary on Formula One,

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. I've been a huge fan of Formula

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<v Speaker 1>one for a long time and I think it's growing

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<v Speaker 1>and growing in popularity. But if you look at NASCAR

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at F one, it's motor racing. The

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<v Speaker 1>drivers that drive on NASCAR and the drivers that drive

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<v Speaker 1>on Formula One basically all kind of started doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. They were started in kart racing and they

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<v Speaker 1>did it at a young age and that's how they

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<v Speaker 1>got into motor racing. And if you look at the product,

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<v Speaker 1>one goes around in a circle. Yeah, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of NASCAR events that are road tracks, but the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the NASCAR events are in an oval track and

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<v Speaker 1>they just go round in circles and there is a massive,

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<v Speaker 1>massive following for that. And then you have F one

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<v Speaker 1>that is kind of through street racing and different. So

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<v Speaker 1>motor racing, different product, maybe different demographic, definitely different sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>NASCAR you've got for Chevrolet, Toyota, F one, you've got Ferrari,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Mercedes, You've got Asked and Martin. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the fans are different, Maybe the fans are from a

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<v Speaker 1>different socioeconomic background. I don't know. But what I do

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<v Speaker 1>know is all of the best drivers in NASCAR and

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<v Speaker 1>Formula One are all flying to every race on their

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<v Speaker 1>own private jet. They all live in mansions, they're all making,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scary money, and nobody in those sports are

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<v Speaker 1>asking you to make a choice between one or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, all of this is just golf. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you like golf, you can watch golf anywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>choose to watch. You don't have to make a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're making a choice for your own personal reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I guess that's your choice. And but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to And I think the products aren't really that

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<v Speaker 1>difficult different, you know, Yeah, fifty four holes versus seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two holes. There are people that some people that like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, I think we're seeing good golf everywhere. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's unbelievable to see the rise of Tony for

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<v Speaker 1>Now on the PGA Tour. I think you know Tony

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<v Speaker 1>for Now winning yet again. He won a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of last year. He hadn't figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how to win. Before he's figured out how to win.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an unbelievable story. That's a great, great story. That's

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<v Speaker 1>good for golf. And one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about Taylor Gooch, the golf that he

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<v Speaker 1>is playing. He's won two tournaments back to back on

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<v Speaker 1>Live and I'm telling you, this kid, the game that

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Gooch has, he's so so impressive. He's an old

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<v Speaker 1>school shot maker. Whatever the hole kind of tells you

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to, if it's a right to left or

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<v Speaker 1>it's a left to right, he hits that shot. He

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<v Speaker 1>can hit it high, he can hit it low. I

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<v Speaker 1>was lucky enough to spend a lot of time last

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<v Speaker 1>year with Taylor Goodchi was on DJ's four Aces team,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy is just so so impressive, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize how good of a player he was. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize all these different shots that he had. And

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<v Speaker 1>in an era where a lot of the top players

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of going to one shot and becoming one

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<v Speaker 1>dimensional and having tremendous success doing it. Taylor's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a throwback, a throwback to a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a dog leg from left to right, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit that shot. If it's a dog leg from

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<v Speaker 1>right to left, he's gonna hit that shot. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have to hit it high to a backpin, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hit that one. If you're gonna have to hit it low,

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<v Speaker 1>he can hit that one. So it has been unbelievably

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<v Speaker 1>impressive to watch him play the two rounds. The Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday round he played down in Australia. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was like he was playing a different golf course. The score,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was a million under. He took a

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<v Speaker 1>ten shot lead into the final round, had a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a wobble, a bunch of guys made a

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<v Speaker 1>run at him and ends up winning. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a dominant, dominant performance. And then we went to Singapore

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<v Speaker 1>last week Sunday he was in a duel with Sergio

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<v Speaker 1>Garcia and Brooks Keepka down the stretch and was able

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<v Speaker 1>to win in a playoff with against Sergio Garcia eight

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in six rounds. I'll go ahead and say

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<v Speaker 1>that again. Eight million dollars in six rounds, and anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's listening that says, it's not about the money, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about the money. It's not about the money. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about the money, right, and if golfers are

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<v Speaker 1>just playing and it's not about the money, then why

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<v Speaker 1>does everybody have an agent? Rory McElroy has an agent,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Thomas has an agent, Jordan Speith has an agent,

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<v Speaker 1>Scotty Scheffler has an agent. Everybody in professional golf has

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<v Speaker 1>an agent. Why do we know who Mark Steinberg is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an agent, He's Tiger's agent. The reason all these

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<v Speaker 1>players have agents is, to newsflash, to try and make money.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to make as much money as possible as

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<v Speaker 1>a professional athlete. That is what every professional athlete is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. It will come across I guess to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people listening that I am pro live.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not pro live. I want Live to succeed because

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<v Speaker 1>I am pro athlete. I have never I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>part of an organization, right. I am a golf instructor,

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<v Speaker 1>employed by professional golfers, employed by professional athletes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't work for the USGA, the RNA, the PGA of America,

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour. I don't work for those organizations. I

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<v Speaker 1>work for athletes. I work for professional golfers, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that professional golfers should be like everybody else. They

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<v Speaker 1>should have the opportunity to make as much money as

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<v Speaker 1>their talent allows them to make. I think Rory McElroy

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to go anywhere in the world and

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<v Speaker 1>play golf and be paid to show up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Scotti Scheffler should be able to go anywhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and play golf, and if an organizer, if a

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor of a tournament wants to pay him to show up,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's earned that right by the talent that

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<v Speaker 1>he has. So it's about the money. The tour tried

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<v Speaker 1>to put out this thing about legacy and trophies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody kind of knows that that's not the case,

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<v Speaker 1>given the choices that the PGA Tour has chosen to

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<v Speaker 1>make with designated events, no cut events, upping the purse.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's just about legacy and trophies, there would be

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<v Speaker 1>no prize money. Everybody on the PGA Tour would play

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<v Speaker 1>for free, so you don't have to choose. You can

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<v Speaker 1>watch golf wherever you want it, but as someone that

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the live ecosystem, and listen, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a choice that I'm make. All of my players just

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<v Speaker 1>went to live and because I'm employed by them, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where they go. I think, I don't know, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to Brooks extensively about this, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the PG or at the at the Masters. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks was leading for three rounds and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the media tried to portray that Brooks wasn't a live

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<v Speaker 1>guy and that he was a guy that was looking

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. Brooks is not looking to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks just doesn't have any animosity towards the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have any animosity towards j Monahan. He invited

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<v Speaker 1>J Monahan to his wedding. He doesn't have any animosity

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<v Speaker 1>to the guys. He doesn't think that the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. He just has made a choice to go

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<v Speaker 1>play somewhere else. And you know, players in other sports

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<v Speaker 1>make choices to leave other teams for financial reasons, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just that we've never seen that before in golf,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's here. I think the caliber of play. I

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<v Speaker 1>worked with PGA Tour players and I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>European Tour. Started my career on the European Tour in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two, and since two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 1>I've basically been coaching professional golfers on the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>except for the last year and a half. The golf

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<v Speaker 1>that's being played on live is no different than the

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<v Speaker 1>golf that was being played on the PGA Tour. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>still has coaches, everybody still has trainers, everybody still has physios.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they just took the money and nobody cared,

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<v Speaker 1>then nobody would have a coach, nobody would have a trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody would have a physio. They'd all just be showing

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<v Speaker 1>up zero practice, not working on their body, not working

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<v Speaker 1>on their golf swing, because they'd all got in the

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<v Speaker 1>bag and they'd all been paid. So this narrative that

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<v Speaker 1>you know you have to choose between the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>or live is crazy. I mean, it's gotten so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>that Chase Keepka makes a hole in one at a

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<v Speaker 1>live tournament in Australia, and I heard some clowns on

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast trying to say that it was staged, that

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<v Speaker 1>it was fake, that it was It was a coincidence

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<v Speaker 1>that all of a sudden, a bunch of people had

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<v Speaker 1>the footage and they all posted at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>When somebody makes a hole in one and you're at

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament, you're going to post the video. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>came down to Adelaide to Australia and was on the

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth hole with her brother and my brother in law

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<v Speaker 1>when Chase made the hole of one. She immediately sent

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<v Speaker 1>the video. You've got these clowns doing podcasts going, look

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<v Speaker 1>like it was stage. Maybe a drone flew in the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it wasn't live, and because it was tape delayed,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it was in Australia, it wasn't live in America,

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<v Speaker 1>these clowns are saying, yeah, it seems like it's stage.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it doesn't happen live on American television, that

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<v Speaker 1>means that it's not real and it didn't happen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we're at. And if you need an example

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<v Speaker 1>of how crazy this whole thing has become, that to

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<v Speaker 1>me is a seminal moment. You've got people that think

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<v Speaker 1>somebody making a hole in one on a whole kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the sixteenth pole at Waste Management, thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>that was staged and rigged. If that's how far the

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit down the rabbit hole you are with the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour and all of their paid media and all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are trying to discredit Live, then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what to tell you. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you is the golf being played on

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<v Speaker 1>Live is the same golf that's being played on the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour. And Taylor Gooch is a legit in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>He's a legit top twenty five, top fifteen player in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I think Taylor Gooch will have legit chances

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year in the three remaining majors.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be surprised if he has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to and I wouldn't be surprised if he winned one.

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<v Speaker 1>He has the type of game that suits every type

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<v Speaker 1>of golf course. He has the type of game that

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<v Speaker 1>suits regular tournaments. He has the type of game that

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<v Speaker 1>suits major turnment. And the best part about Taylor is

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<v Speaker 1>he believes so much in himself. He's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>players that quietly has this inner confidence of he believes

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<v Speaker 1>in his own ability. He believes in what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't be surprised if ce Taylor Gooch on the

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<v Speaker 1>leader board in a major sometime this summer, because and

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<v Speaker 1>he's going for three live tournaments in a row, three

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<v Speaker 1>live tournaments in a row. If he were to win

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<v Speaker 1>Tulsa next week, I mean, he's getting close to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars this year in prize money. And again, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that tries to tell you that golf professional golf is

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<v Speaker 1>just about legacy and just about trophies, you're drinking the

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<v Speaker 1>kool aid, because everybody playing professional golf is playing professional

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<v Speaker 1>golf for money. The guys on the Live Tour are

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, guys on the PGA Tour are doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna keep saying this. You don't have to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of golf, you can watch your

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<v Speaker 1>golf wherever you want to watch it. The tournament down

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<v Speaker 1>in Adelaide was one of the coolest tournaments I've been to.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell that the Australian golf public is starved

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<v Speaker 1>for professional golf. Yes they have tournaments, yes they used

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<v Speaker 1>to have a tour, but they've never seen that many

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<v Speaker 1>great players in one place at one time, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun Fisher, the DJ. He flew in from Coachella

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<v Speaker 1>for thirteen hours. He was in Australia for thirteen hours,

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<v Speaker 1>played a DJ set. I think Saturday night after the round,

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<v Speaker 1>almost twenty thousand people showed up to watch a DJ

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<v Speaker 1>at a golf tournament. I met a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked people why they were there. They said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we never get an opportunity to see these great players.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to come out and see the best players

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. I had people say, Hey, any chance

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<v Speaker 1>that we can see the best players in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take advantage of that. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the best players of the world are players playing professional golf,

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<v Speaker 1>not which tour they're playing on the PGA Tour. They

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<v Speaker 1>want you to think that all of the best players

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<v Speaker 1>in the world play there, and that's just not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>There are great players playing golf all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think one of the things that's come out

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<v Speaker 1>really since the Masters is, you know, Taylor Goots Shoots

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<v Speaker 1>plays a great tournament in Adelaide. He goes down in

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<v Speaker 1>the world rankings, beats a bunch of players that are

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<v Speaker 1>higher ranked than him. In the world rankings, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's crazy to me that we still have this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of debate. If you go to a live tournament

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<v Speaker 1>and don't like it, that's okay. If you watch a

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<v Speaker 1>live tournament and don't like what you see, that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can like both. I believe the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>and live can both be true at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am seeing the same calid. I've been saying

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<v Speaker 1>this for months now. I've never seen Brooks kept goa

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<v Speaker 1>work harder than he's working right now. He didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>this hard in twenty nineteen on his game because he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to. He went through a bad couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get back to being the best player

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. He's trying to get back to winning

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<v Speaker 1>major championships. He had a legit chance to win the Masters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Brooks is going to have legit chances to

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<v Speaker 1>win all three of the next majors. And I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised at all if Brooks kept Go won one

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<v Speaker 1>of those. And yeah, I'm biased. You know the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I'm biased is because I coach him, and I watch

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<v Speaker 1>what he does, and I watch how he plays golf,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at the rest of the players playing

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<v Speaker 1>professional golf and I don't see any difference. And all

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<v Speaker 1>these people that thought he was washed up and just

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<v Speaker 1>took the bag and went to live and was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be insignificant, I promise you that's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the case. And if you look at the golf

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<v Speaker 1>that Phil Mickelson has been playing recently, it's it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>impressive if you look at the way Phil looked twelve

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<v Speaker 1>months ago versus the way he looks now, the dedication

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<v Speaker 1>and the work that he's put into getting himself in shape,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he is. He is flourishing on Live

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<v Speaker 1>in the role that he's got. I think he loves

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<v Speaker 1>having a team. And I'm here to tell you, guys,

0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the team concept on Live is real. It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>The guys like playing for the team. The teams that

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<v Speaker 1>I work with, You Brooks's on his team, Team Smash

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<v Speaker 1>DJ and Pat Perez who I work with, are on teammatess.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much every single time we all get to the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course at the same time. We breakfast together, we

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<v Speaker 1>practice together, we play practice rounds together. The teams eat

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<v Speaker 1>and play practice rounds together. It's very much a team concept.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone that thinks all of this team stuff isn't real,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you it is. And looking at the players

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at how much they've embraced that, but also

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the fans. I couldn't believe how many people

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<v Speaker 1>were buying merchandise in Adelaide. And you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>staying in downtown Adelaide in Australia and on the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>we're going out to dinner and you just see people

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<v Speaker 1>in town walking around with live merch and live team

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<v Speaker 1>merch and there are loads of people that are telling

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<v Speaker 1>you they have no fan base, nobody cares, and nobody's interested.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been to every live event and that's just

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<v Speaker 1>not the case. So you can watch golf and choose golf,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are some great golf being played. Boyd Summer

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<v Speaker 1>hates coaches, both Tony Finow and Taylor Gooch. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>on the pod before. If you get a chance, go

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<v Speaker 1>back and listen. I think Boyd's one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>coaches out there, but two really really good young players,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the game is in a very very

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<v Speaker 1>good place because I think the caliber of golf that's

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<v Speaker 1>being played is just phenomenal. I mean, you've got John

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<v Speaker 1>Rahm again with a chance to win. That's great for golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Sergio Garcia playing great last week. Whether a Sergio fan

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<v Speaker 1>or not, I don't care. Sergio is a great golfer

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<v Speaker 1>and it was great to see Sergio win again or

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to win again. And Brooks right there

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix, missed the playoffs by one shot. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the caliber of golf he's playing, he

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<v Speaker 1>won in Orlando the week before, the week before the Masters,

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<v Speaker 1>finished second at the Masters, and just finished second again.

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<v Speaker 1>So the litmus test for me for professional golf, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care where you play. If you're winning tournaments and

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<v Speaker 1>have chances to win tournaments, you're playing good. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to the questions. I put out questions yesterday on

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram and got a bunch of people, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Brooks questions, obviously, you know, kind of asking kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what we've been working on and what he's been

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<v Speaker 1>working on. I think the big changes set and I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this, but a lot of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>we've done with Brooks's game is set up related. And

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<v Speaker 1>last week it's funny Brooks had a chance to win

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament last week and the range at Sintosa, the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course in Singapore. The tea was at the top

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was a very very steep dive down

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was a bottom part of the range.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tuesday, I've never seen Brooks hit it worse. Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen Brooks hit it worse. And finally he

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, I hate downhill ranges because the ball

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<v Speaker 1>comes out it looks like it's going too high. He

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to flight the golf ball down. So from

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday onward, Brooks did all of his warm ups at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the range so he could hit uphill.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of what we've been working on with

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks is set up related ball position, set up alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>Every now and again, if you see Brooks on TV

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<v Speaker 1>warming up, you'll see him kind of have his caddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky Elliott stand in to where he's set up, and

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Brooks wants to know where he's lining up. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would say the majority of the work that we've done

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<v Speaker 1>in the last six months has been all stuffed before

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks hits the golf ball, making sure the golf ball

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get too far back in his stands and working

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<v Speaker 1>on his a ligne. All of the setup things in

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks's in the way he sets up to it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of are the domino effect to where he how he

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>swings the golf club. So when the golf ball gets

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<v Speaker 1>too far back, if he gets aimed too far to

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<v Speaker 1>the right, then the takeaway doesn't get outside going back,

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get it in front of him coming down,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard for him to manage what the path

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<v Speaker 1>and the face are doing when the setup gets off.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are struggling with your own golf swing,

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>make sure you're looking at the basics. They're not sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see a lot of YouTube videos. You don't

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of YouTube videos. You don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Instagram posts from all the golf influence frontsers

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<v Speaker 1>talking about grip, stance, posture, and alignment. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you that in twenty twenty three, grip, pasture,

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<v Speaker 1>ball position, alignment still have a massive, massive effect on

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<v Speaker 1>how you hit the golf ball. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>what we've done with brook is just set up related,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a result of that, I think it's allowed

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<v Speaker 1>him to know that, Okay, I'm set up in the

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<v Speaker 1>right place. My ball position is in the right place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can then go ahead and swing the golf

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<v Speaker 1>club the way I want to. The good thing right

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>now for Brooks is all the misses are out of

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the club face, not so much off

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<v Speaker 1>the toe and not so much off the heel, which

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<v Speaker 1>shows us that he's pretty much where he wants to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And he keeps saying that, okay, okay, I missed that one,

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<v Speaker 1>missed a little bit of where I was trying to go,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's right out of the center of the face.

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<v Speaker 1>He's found a driver that he really likes. He went

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<v Speaker 1>up and loft at the tournament that he won in Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he used a different driver than he used in

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando that he used at the Masters. From the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, he went from eight degrees of loft.

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<v Speaker 1>He's up to ten and a half degrees of loft now.

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<v Speaker 1>When he had the eight degrees of loft, he just

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't see enough on the face and it really got

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>him to try and hit the golf ball up. That's

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the death move for Brooks. Brooks places best when he

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>hits down on it, especially with the driver. Brooks kind

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>of cruises. When he plays his best golf, he's probably

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>one to one and a half degrees down on it

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>because he likes to kind of be able to hit down,

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>swing left and hit that kind of bullet cut. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to continue to see Brooks play well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his short game is very, very underrated. The

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 1>work that he's done with Pete Cowen. He has hit

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>some unbelievable short game shots when it matters. And you know,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 1>he didn't necessarily put as good down the stretch in

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 1>Singapore last week, but he feels like his speed was

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>just a little off. And but Brooks is healthy, Brooks

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>is confident, and I think we are going to see

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Brooks continue to have chances to win tournaments. Let's see

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I get asked best golf swing ever. I'm biased, but

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Tiger two thousand that was probably the best I've ever

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>seen anyone swing the golf club since then. I mean,

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Adam Scott, Nelly Korda, I mean their golf swings are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. I think Nelly Korda has one of the

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>best golf swings in professional golf men, women, boys, girls.

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't care her golf swing is. I mean, I

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>got to watch it up close at the Women's US

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Open last year, And I mean, if Nelly Korda's hitting

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>golf balls on the driving range and I'm on a

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>driving range, I'm going to stop and watch because that's

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>how legit good her golf swing is. Now, I think

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times people get confused with golf swings,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of a thing you've heard me talk

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>about on the pod before, this kind of technique versus execution.

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>If it was solely on technique, I think Adam Scott

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and Nelly Quorter would win every week. It'd be like

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>figure skating. There would be judges, they'd be looking at

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the technique and they'd be going giving nine to five,

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>ten nine, nine, nine to eight. But that's not what

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>golf is. Golf is execution, it's not technique. So when everybody,

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>when anytime anybody asks me about golf swings that I

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like and who I think has good golf swings, I

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>always make the distinction between esthetics and function, and functional

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>golf swings to me are way more important than aesthetically

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>pleasing golf swings. Jim Furick, Steve Elkington have the exact

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>same amount of major Championships, one each. They both won

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the Players Championships. They both have vastly, vastly different golf swings.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Steve Elkington another guy that is a great, great golf swing.

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>The way he swings the golf club beautiful, The positions

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>he puts the golf clubs in beautiful. But golf isn't

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>about golf swings. Golf is about hitting golf balls and

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>hitting golf shots. I had a couple of people asked

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>if I've been blacklisted from the PGA Tour for working

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>with Live, and what do I miss about the PGA

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Tour and what's different about Live? The main thing I

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>miss about the PGA Tour is all the players and

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the caddies. That's the thing I missed the most. It

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>was so great at Augusta National to see a bunch

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>of players and caddies that I hadn't seen, really, you know,

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>in almost six seven months, and that was really really cool.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>What are the differences between the PGA Tour and Live?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the obvious choice from a coaching standpoint, and

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>this is just from my own per personal experience. I

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>get treated better on Live than I ever got treated

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour rarely was I ever. The PGA

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Tour for coaches is all about where you can't go, right,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot I can't go. I can't have breakfast

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>or lunch with a player because I'm not allowed in

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>in player dining. For a long time, we weren't allowed

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. It's it's very, very different. In

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>my this is just my opinion. Coaches, trainers, physios, and

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>caddies are seen as part of the tour, the PGA

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Tour and the way that the PGA Tour operates. You know,

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, caddies weren't allowed in the locker

0:30:54.320 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>room at a PGA Tour event. I can eat with

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a player. I can eat with a caddie and a player.

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to pay for food at a PGA

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Tour event. I have no access for food. I have

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to pay my own food. Live, the hotels we stay

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in tend to be near or similar to the ones

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the players stay in. There's shuttles to and from the

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>golf course, and and it just as a coach on Live,

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you you feel like you're a part of the tour.

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>You feel like you're important, you feel like the tour

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>feels like you're an important part of the player, and

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I never felt like that on the PGA Tour. I

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>always felt like I was guessed. I really did. I

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>felt like I was going to a PGA Tour event,

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I had a credential. But then you walk around. You

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>look at all of these people that work for the

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour, and they've got the alphabet on their badges, right.

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>That means they can basically go everywhere. They park in

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the same places that the players park in. They're eating

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>meals in the clubhouse, and everybody else is just kind

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>of on outside of that circle. They're in the inner circle.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's been the interesting thing, in my opinion,

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the differences between Live and the PGA Tour.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>It's been as much a business experiment as it's been

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a social experiment. Everybody that is part of Live feels

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like they're part of something, and that comes from the

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>tour making you feel like you're part of what's going on,

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're an integral part of the event and the tour,

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour. For however many years, I was on

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the PJ Tour and I was on the PGA Tour

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I always felt like I was guessed.

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I always felt like and I was treated like a guest.

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think you would if you asked all the

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>coaches that are currently coaching on the PGA Tour, they

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you the exact same thing. Now, there are a

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that say, hey, Lives only forty eight

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>players versus how many people play every week on the

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour. Obviously it's easier to make those changes. But

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>every year at the Tour Championship, there's thirty players in

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that never allowed in the clubhouse, not allowed to eat, parking,

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>never get parking, all of that stuff. Now, obviously these

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>are first world problems, right, I'm gonna hold by hand up.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>These are first world problems. I'm not digging ditches, right,

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not Nicole Mine. I work with professional golfers. I'm

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>not curing cancer. But when people ask me, what's the

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>difference the tour, Live, in my opinion, treats everyone better

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>than I ever saw on the PGA Tour. And one

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>of the interesting things I find about all the people

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that are anti Live is they've never been a part

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of the PGA Tour. I've never been a part of

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the Live ecosystem. All of us that make these comments

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>about the PGA Tour, from players, from caddies, from coaches,

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>from everybody that has now gone to live. We were

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>all part of the PGA tours ecosystem for years, right,

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>so when we talk about it, we talk about it

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's we lived it. We saw it on a

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 1>daily basis. Most of the people that are anti live

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>won't even watch, they won't even go to a tournament.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>They act like it doesn't exist. So when I get

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 1>asked what's the difference, I feel more welcome on Live

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>than I ever felt on the PGA Tour. That's for sure.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Great question. Tour player coaching relationship you learn the most

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>from I guess if I had to think about that,

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess it would be Trevor Immerman. Trevor Immerman was

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the first real tour player that I ever worked with.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I moved to Europe in the early two thousands, and

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>up until that point, i'd worked in Vegas for my dad.

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I was around for the glory years of my dad

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>working with Tiger, and I'll be honest with you, when

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I worked in Las Vegas from about nineteen ninety eight

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>until two thousand and two, I just kind of spit

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>out what I heard my dad telling people, and he

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was telling people the Wright stuff. So it worked. But

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know anything. I just kind of knew

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 1>what I heard from my dad and watching other people.

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what I really believed in the

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>golf swing, what I thought made players better. So when

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I moved to Europe and started working on the European

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Tour in two thousand and two, Trevor Immelman, who is

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a very very dear friend of mine, we're still close.

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he's doing an unbelievable job at CBS. But

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Trevor was playing in Europe and he was the first

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.399
<v Speaker 1>player that I ever really got to work with, and

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it was an opportunity for me to go, Okay, I've

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>learned all of this stuff from my dad. I've taken

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>in all of this knowledge, and how do I apply

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>it now without a safety net? Because before I was

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>working in a place where my dad was around. If

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I got in trouble, if I wasn't figuring something, and

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I could say, hey, Dad, take a look at this way,

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>do you think and he'd bail me out. So when

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I went to work in Europe, I realized that I

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't really know anything, and I had to figure out

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>what I believed in the golfer. I had a lot

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of knowledge, but I didn't know how to apply any

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of it. So Trevor was really the first player that

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I was able to kind of go, Okay, this is

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>what he's coming to me with as a player, and

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>these are kind of the ways that I'm going to

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>go about trying to help him get better. And I

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>made a conscious effort at that time to not kind

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of seek my dad's opinion or counsel because one of

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the things I think is really important is an intructors

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is you have to fail. You have to make mistakes.

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's important in life in general, and you

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>learn from the mistakes you make way more than the

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>successes that you have. And so I worked with Trevor

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>for a number of years and kind of helped, I

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say resurrect his career, but he was supposed to

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>be a superstar at a young age and kind of

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>not really developed the way that he had wanted to.

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And the work that we did together, he won, you know,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>some golf tournaments, the first real professional win I ever

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>had with a player. Was when Trevor won in two

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>thousand and three, I think at the South African Open

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>he won the South African which was a huge win

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>from him, But that was a huge win for me

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and I learned a lot in the years that I

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>worked with Trevor, and I still look back on those days,

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, incredibly fondly because they were hugely, hugely important

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>in my development. So I can't thank Trevor enough for

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>choosing to hire me in two thousand and two, because

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would have gotten to where i'd

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>gotten I have gotten today and been able to work

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>with the players that I work with if it hadn't

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>been for Trevor given me a break and taking a

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>chance on me. And you know, I'll be indebted to

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Trevor for the rest of my life for doing that.

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0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.360
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<v Speaker 1>is I think in the last I'd say in the

0:38:56.400 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>last fifteen years, I've been exposed to so many people

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<v Speaker 1>They're from other sports, and they're from other backgrounds, And

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I have learned probably more in the last fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>from non golf people and try to apply that to

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>golf than I have necessarily from from golf people. You know,

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I try and listen and learn from as many coach

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>as I can. I try and ask as many questions

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<v Speaker 1>as I possibly can. You know, when at Augusta National,

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.240
<v Speaker 1>because we're not allowed to go on the golf course

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 1>in practice rounds. It's the only professional golf tournament that

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<v Speaker 1>is coaches. The rules that Augusta National are no coaches

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>inside the ropes. So what that means is a lot

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>of coaches have a lot of time to sit around

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>because they can't go out and watch their players. So

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I spend a lot of time with other coaches, and

0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, anytime I can sit with Cameron McCormick, who

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I've had on the podcast before, anytime I can pick

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Cam's brain. I mean, I ask as many questions as

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I can I'll show him swings on juniors that I'm

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>working with or players that I'm working with. What do

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you think about this? What do you think about that?

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Phil Kenyon, who I've had on the pod, who I

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>think is the best putting instructor on the planet. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll sit and talk to Phil about what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about this guy's doing? What do you think about

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that guy's doing. I had some really cool conversations with

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Brandy Smith, who coaches Scotti Scheffler. Randy is the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>old school. He's in the vein of my dad to

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to pick his brain and listen and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hear what he has to say. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I try and talk to as many players as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Reid, whether you like Patrick Reid, whether you don't

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>like your Pat Patrick Reid, that's your choice. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care whether you like him or you don't like him.

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<v Speaker 1>But as a golfer, the guy's a hell of a golfer.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And I've been he plays a lot of practice rounds.

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Because he's on DJ's team now, he plays a lot

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of practice rounds. I mean, I'm videoing his short game

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<v Speaker 1>because the guy is just a genius when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>short game. I mean, I think Patrick reads short game

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<v Speaker 1>is on a par with anyone, and that includes Sevi

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Biosteros as well. I know Billy Foster, who has caddied

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<v Speaker 1>for Sevy before rates Patrick reads short game as being

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best he's ever seen and just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pick his brain. So I think if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in instruction and you want to try and

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>give lessons and stuff, you need to ask as many

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>questions as you can and try and find as much

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge as you can. My dad has always said that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a golf instructor, find the instructor or the

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<v Speaker 1>coach whose thoughts and theories and opinions on the golf

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>swing you disagree with the most, and then go listen

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to them give a seminar. You should be able to

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>find something from listening to somebody that you definitely didn't

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>agree with and go oh, I kind of like that part.

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<v Speaker 1>So I try and pick the brains of as many

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>people as I can and just try and get as

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<v Speaker 1>much information as I possibly can which will help me

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>become a better instructor. This is a good question. Do

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<v Speaker 1>pro golfers have swing thoughts or is it solely focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on landing points. I think every golfer is different, and

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>I kind of look at golfers individually. They all kind

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of learn differently, They all kind of need different things.

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>There are players that need a lot of information, there

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 1>are players that don't need a lot of informations. There

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>are players that want things complicated, and there are players

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<v Speaker 1>that don't. I work with two players, three players really,

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 1>but DJ and Brooks. They want things as simple as possible.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>They I don't try and impress them with my knowledge.

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't try and impress them with fancy terms. We

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>work on very specific things. I try and stay on

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>message with all of them and try and keep them

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<v Speaker 1>working on the same things because I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a good idea as their coach as to what

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<v Speaker 1>makes them great players and what makes them the best

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>players in the world. But I do think that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to try and figure out if you're working with

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<v Speaker 1>someone and they're trying to compete as a player, you

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>need to figure out what makes that player tick and

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<v Speaker 1>what makes that player good, and how that player receives

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>information and how that player absorbs information and what that

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>player needs. A great example of that is at the

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Live event in Adelaide. Pat Perez said, listen. I know

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this on the pod before the season

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>finale for Live last year in Miami. Pat said, listen.

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:12.919
<v Speaker 1>We'd been working on hitting a fade, and he said, listen,

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I need to I want to go back to hitting

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<v Speaker 1>a draw. And I feel like it's my job to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the player. And so we got Pat hitting draws.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>He played with it pretty good. We got to Adelaide

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and he said, listen, this course is really really tight.

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel if I could fade it, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>much easier to me. And this was Wednesday afternoon of

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the tournament, and I said to Pat, I said, okay,

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>we know what you need to do to fade it,

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>but we've got to bust our ass. You're playing golf

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>in a day and a half. So we hit a

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of balls Wednesday night. We had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>balls Thursday, did a lot of work during the practice round,

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and then we hit a lot of balls after the

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<v Speaker 1>practice round, and then we hit a lot of balls

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>before Friday to get him back to fading the golf ball.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And had a legit chance to win and had a

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>top five and you know it was a really, really

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>good week for him. I think you have to listen

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to your players. You have to ask your players what

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>shots they're trying to hit, what shots they want to hit.

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>And again that goes back to me saying that you

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>need to ask as many questions as possible. And last one,

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>what body part initially starts the downswing? Single word answer.

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to be able to give you one word

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:37.280
<v Speaker 1>answers for that. Unfortunately there isn't a one word answer.

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it varies from player to player, and I

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>think it definitely varies from what shot you're trying to hit.

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>If you're trying to hit in my opinion, if you're

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to hit fades, the difference in how you start

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the downswing is very different than if you're trying to

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 1>hit draws, and I think you've got to look at

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>what your tendency is. As a generalization, I do think that,

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, the downswing for the best players in

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the world starts from the ground up. But having said that,

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the two guys that I work with at fade it

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Brooks and DJ we're always trying to have them feel

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like the golf club gets more in front of them

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>on the downswing, because when the golf club gets behind

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>them on the downswing, they struggle. So yeah, I mean

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a generalization, but if you're trying to fade

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the golf ball, the club needs to work more in

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>front of your body than it needs to work more

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.959
<v Speaker 1>behind your body. But I think you've got to look

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>at what a player does and then say, Okay, what

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>are the keys to help them start the downswing. Some

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>people feel it in their feet, some people feel it

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in their knees, some people feel it in their hips,

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>some people feel it in their chests, some people feel

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>it in the arms. And the golf swing. I just

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's a one word answer to that question.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 1>A great question, but I do think a lot of

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it is swing dependent and is dependent on the type

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of shot that you're trying to hit. So that was

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.919
<v Speaker 1>solo episode of the pod. Jumped around a little bit there,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, I think with everything that's going

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 1>on in professional golf, the most important thing for me

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>is I think we are in an age to where

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<v Speaker 1>we are seeing some of the best golfers and they

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>are playing unbelievable golf, and I think golfers are playing

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 1>golf all over the world on a myriad of different tours,

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think that if you are trying to pigeonhole

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:51.720
<v Speaker 1>golfers into only being great based off of the tour

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that they play on, I just don't get that argument,

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>because I think we are seeing some unbelievable golfers. I

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 1>think we are in a very very rich vein of

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>form in professional golf. John Rahm, Scotti Scheffler, young guys

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>like Tony Feenow. I think they're playing great golf on

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour. I think Taylor Gooch, I think Brooks Koepka.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>They're playing great golf on LIV. I think Nelly Corda

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 1>is playing great golf on the LPGA Tour. I think

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>there are great golfers and great golf swings in the

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>game of golf, not on specific tours. The game of

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>professional golf, I think right now is in a fantastic,

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>fantastic place, and whatever side of this battle you're on

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that certain people want a battle to be happening, I

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just don't think you need to. If you like golf

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and you like golf swings, there is great golf being

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>played all over the world on a lot of different tours,

0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and I am really really excited about where because I

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>think right now we have some tremendous players, we have

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>some great champions, and I can't wait for the rest

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of this year for the major championships to see how

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>this all plays out, because I think we are going

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to see some great battles. I think we are going

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to see some great players winning tournaments, and I think

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see some surprises, you know, pop up

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 1>over the next three majors, And I can honestly tell

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you I am one hundred percent here for it and

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to watch it. Son of a Butcher

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:37.360
<v Speaker 1>comes to you every Wednesday. Can't thank everybody enough for listening,

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 1>great review, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. We will

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<v Speaker 1>see everyone next week.