1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,120 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. 2 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: Welcome into a Thursday edition of Texans All Access from 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: the Honday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris, 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter Mark rehabbing a little bit from 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: his surgery yesterday. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: All things thumbs up. It was a little difficult. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: Apparently at first, but got it done. So Mark will 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: be back next week, but we're holding it down. And 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: because it's Thursday night, you know, the show turns into 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: John and John, John Harris and the General. John McClain 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: did join us on Tuesday, but doing double duty this 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: week because he's that kind of guy. 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: General. How you doing, my friend, Welcome to the show. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: John, I'm doing great. Thank you for having me. I'm 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: really fired up because of training cams right around the corner, 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: and very sad because of the death of Jens McNair, 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: who I knew for a little over thirty years. 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I know you've got a memoris coming up 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: on Houston Texans dot com. 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: Though I do. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: They've asked me to write one and it's going to 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 3: be posted Monday morning. I'm very honored to be able 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: to do that, and I'm gonna just just write what 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: I remember there's so many tributes coming in from not 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: just locally but around the NFL, and course former players 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 3: and coaches, current players and coaches, so there's I'm gonna 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: try to say things that they didn't say just because 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: I knew her so well, and tell some stories and 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: one of the things I don't want to give too 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: much away, John, but since we're here on this Thursday 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: night and you have a big audience at Texans fans, 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: I remember one time I was over. I would interview 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: Bob quite a bit at his house, sometimes on the phone, 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: but I preferred to go to his house, and I 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 3: told him one time, I said, you know the reason 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: I like to interview you here, And we always went 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: in his library and Janie always came in and sat 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: and we talked as well, if Bob wasn't in a hurry, 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: And I told him, I said, the reason I like 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: to come over here. It's the only place I can 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: go where somebody will come up to me and say, 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: mister McLean, can I get you something? And I would say, yeah, 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: I think I'll have a diet coke. But I always 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: remembered about Janice. She always wanted to be in the background. 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: First time I ever interviewed them. I wanted to interview 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: both of them. It was at their house right after 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: well when the Oilers were leaving after the ninety sixth season, 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: and Bob thought, like everybody else, they were going to 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: leave after the ninety five season with one year left 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: on their lease, and then Houston decided to play hardball 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: make him stay another year. So Bob had already started 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: to mount his campaign to get a franchise to place 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: the Oilers, and Janis was with him every step of 54 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: the way. So when I went over to interview them, 55 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: I stayed around a little bit. She didn't want to 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: be interviewed. She came in and she answered questions and talked, 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: but she just thought Bob should be the front man. 58 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: And I thought at the time, you know the saying 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: behind every successful man is etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 5: And. 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: Shared her she was so soft talking and kind and graceful. 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: And I'm going to use this in my remembrance now. 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: She was a Southern belt from South Carolina, and I 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: always I told her, one time, you got an accent 65 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: as sweet as tupoulo, honey. Now I use that line. 66 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight, in a story about Archie Manning's 67 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: wife Olivia, because she talked that way. But that's what 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: it reminded me of. And I had so much respect 69 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: for her and Bob one time she came over and 70 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: he put his arm around her and he talked about 71 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: how much he valued her opinion. And sometimes he would 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: like have an idea that he wanted to do, and 73 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: he wanted to know what she thought, and she would 74 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: always tell him the truth, not just say, oh, honey, 75 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: that's a great idea. If she didn't think it was 76 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: a great idea, she would tell him. And there were 77 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: several times he got excited about something and when she 78 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: told her opinion, he backed off or he changed it. 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: And that's how much respect Bob had for Jennis. And 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: if it wasn't for them, you and I, you wouldn't 81 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: have a job. I'm here to have a job because 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: nobody else stepped up. And I always remembered when the 83 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: franchise was down and everybody asked them and saying me, 84 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: there should sell the team. I always thought, man, if 85 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: you guys just knew what they went through to get 86 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: the team for Houston, and you wouldn't be having anything 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: to complain about but an arena league team or a 88 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: UFL team, and we'd be the minor league football capital 89 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: of the world. But I'm going to tell stories like that, 90 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: and and I know she would be embarrassed about all 91 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 3: these great things people are saying about her. And I 92 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: told you and Mark this the other night, but I'll 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: say it again. When we surprised her in the Founder's 94 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: suite before a game and Callan Hanna and her grandkids 95 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: were there, a bunch of her friends and John Lopez 96 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: and I were among the ones on the Houston Sports 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame selection committee. And when we told her 98 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: she was getting a Lifetime Achievement award, like Bob did, 99 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: her first response she put her hand to her chest. 100 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: She's in her wheelchair course, and Karen Richards, who took 101 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: great care of her as her caregiver, just Karen was 102 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: a saint for these years since Jane's was incapacitated, and 103 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: Jane's put her hand on her chest and she said, 104 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: but I don't deserve this, And I said, that's exactly 105 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: why you do deserve it. And I know she was proud, 106 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: and Bob would have been so proud. And of course 107 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: then the ring of honor. So we lost a great lady. 108 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: Texans dead, Houston did Harris County dead. And I know 109 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: cal Jahannah. They know they got big shoes to fill, 110 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: to live up to what Bob and Jane started here, 111 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: and they'll never fill their shoes, but they can have 112 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: their own. And a big component of that is giving, giving, giving, giving, 113 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: And I figured up a few years ago when I 114 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: wrote about Bob's death, that they had given seven hundred 115 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: and fifty million by my calculations. 116 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. General, it's interesting you brought up, you know, 117 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: her accent. I don't know that she's from the same place. 118 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: I think she was born in North Carolina and up 119 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: in South Carolina, but you know a lot of North 120 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: Carolina South Carolina accent. It's kind of the same, Like 121 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: you said, sweetish twoplow honey. 122 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: And there's one of the. 123 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: Tribute videos that was put out, I think it was 124 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: by the Texans, and. 125 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: I heard, I heard her, I heard. 126 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Missus McNair, and it just it's the it's nearly the 127 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: same exact accent of my mother in law who I 128 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: lost three years ago, and I just it just stopped 129 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: me in my tracks. 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: And she was just such. 131 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: She reminded me so much of my mother in law, 132 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: and so I always felt like I had, you know, 133 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: my mother in law there with me. Just she sounded 134 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: so much like her, she thought so much like her, 135 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: you know, the true Southern bell. But the tributes ain't 136 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: pouring in through the week, and I thought this one, 137 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: John was the best, especially considering who it came from. 138 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys owner president and general manager Jerry Jones. He 139 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: said this Jannis McNair, alongside her beloved husband Bob and family, 140 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: brought the NFL back to Houston the strongest ways. She 141 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: has been a dear friend of Jena and I and 142 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: we cherished them many years. We have known her admired 143 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: her so deeply. Most importantly, she was a shining example 144 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: of leadership, character and influence can extend far beyond a 145 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: field by caring for a community, guiding with integrity and purpose, 146 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 2: and establishing a heartfelt philanthropic ethos that is at the core. 147 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: Of their franchise operating culture. 148 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: Simply put, Janis McNair has been a gift to all 149 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: of us and we will miss her greatly. There are 150 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: a lot of different statements that came out for NFL teams, 151 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: but general, when you hear that coming from Jerry Jones, 152 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: I mean that is a that's a personal message about 153 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: the impact Jannis McNair had on the NFL, on on them, 154 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: on the Jones family, and on the Cowboys. This was 155 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: pretty amazing when I read that message. 156 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: What do you think? 157 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: Well, Jerry was real good friends with Bob and Janie, 158 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: and when we gave Bob the Lifetime Achievement Award for 159 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: the Houston from the Houston Sports Awards, of course he 160 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: had died, and so Jerry Jones came down to make 161 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: the speech to about Bob, and so they asked me 162 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: to introduce Jerry, which I did. Jerry came down with 163 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: no security, just came down by himself, and his VPA 164 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: Communications had told me, well you kind of look after him, 165 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: and I said sure, and I was stunned that he didn't. 166 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: He wasn't going to have any security. And when he 167 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: got out, he was going down the red carpet and 168 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: all the media's interviewed him and he was having a blast. 169 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: And then I went and got him and brought him 170 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: up to the VIP area and his VP of Communication 171 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: had said, just make sure he knows where the bathroom 172 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: is so one of the things when Jerry came into 173 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: the VIP area, everybody wanted their picture with him that 174 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: was up there, and it was former Rockets, Astro's oilers, Texans, 175 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people and one of the things that 176 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: and he tried to he tried to accommodate everybody. And 177 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: so when he took a picture, though, he would had 178 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: me his drink that he would have in a glass, 179 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: and so I'd stand off to the side till the 180 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: picture was over. And I asked him, I said, men, 181 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: you know you don't have to do all this. He said, 182 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: I'm here for the mcnairs. He said, Bob was a 183 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: really good friend of mine. Janis is a really good 184 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: friend of mine, and I'm here for them, and I'm 185 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: making sure I have a good time, because even though 186 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: it's sad that he's gone, it's a great honor for 187 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: him to be recognized this way. And he said, I'm 188 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: just glad I'm a part of it. And he genuinely 189 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: seemed sincere about being happy to be there, and he 190 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: was not affected at all by all the attention. You know, 191 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: we all know he loves attention, but I'm talking about, say, 192 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: putting him out. It's like when Troy Aiightman and Emma 193 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: Smith were reducted into Texas Sports Hall of Fame, Jerry 194 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: is pr guy called me and said, do you have 195 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: a table? I said yeah. He said, do you mind 196 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: Jerry Stevens sit with you? He said, because all the 197 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: tables that we've gotten and Troy has gotten or filled. 198 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: I said sure. So when he came over there, everybody 199 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: was stopping him. There's about twelve hundred people there. I said, 200 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 3: do you want me to keep people from coming over here? 201 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 5: No? 202 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: No, I'm happy to do it. So he relishes that. 203 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: And you know, Bob, people think of kind of Bob 204 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: being ok than he was, But you know, Cal's behind 205 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: the scenes guy. When we used to be able to 206 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: watch practice the media and Bob and Cal would come 207 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: over almost every day and Bob would drive the car 208 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: golf cart and he pull up to the media just 209 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: bs with the media. And Bob was so good at it. 210 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: And I told Cal more than one time, I hope 211 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: you're paying attention because your dad really knows how to 212 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: do this with the media. And calcill dad likes it. 213 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: He likes to be out the front. I prefer to 214 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: be in the background, and that's the way cal has 215 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: continued to be. When he has to be in the foreground, 216 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: he can do it, of course, because he owns the team. 217 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: And the only other guy that that Bob respected in 218 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: the NFL as an owner as much as Jerry, because 219 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: he told me this after he got the franchise. Of 220 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: all the people he dealt with who were related to 221 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: the expansion Committee or the NFL, and that wasn't count 222 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: Jerry Jonas because he wasn't on those committees, the only 223 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: person that he remembered told him the truth about everything 224 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: and didn't try to be s and at one time 225 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: or another was Jerry Richardson. Jerry's the late Panthers owner. 226 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: He had to sell the team, and he said Jerry 227 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: was honest with me every step of the way. And 228 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: I've known him a long time since he's North Carolina 229 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: and I'm South Carolina. But I thought that was very interesting. 230 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: So those two, he was especially close to him because 231 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: Jannis was always at his side. She was close to 232 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: him as well. 233 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 234 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're talking to John McClain, the Hall of Famer 235 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: himself and always enjoy to have on Thursday Night. 236 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: General. 237 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: I've been following this, I'm kind of like Sean Pendergast 238 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: and you know, no surprise, we did radio for four 239 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: years together. The lists that come out this time of year, 240 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: rankings things that you know, the the top teams, these 241 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: top units. 242 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: I always love this kind of stuff. 243 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: And ESPN has been doing a series of the top 244 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: ten at each position over the last three days. They've 245 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: had off ball, linebackers, wide receivers, and then they finished 246 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: up today with safeties. I want to start with the 247 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: safeties and kind of we'll work backwards because I've made 248 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: this comment throughout the summer. I feel like Kaylen Bullock 249 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: has just not gotten the respect that probably he deserved. 250 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: This is pretty interesting because he ends up making it 251 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: top ten. He makes it at number ten. But what 252 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: I thought was interesting about this is when they do 253 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: their rankings of the top ten, they have their highest 254 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: ranking and lowest ranking. 255 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: His lowest ranking was unranked, and. 256 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised by that because it feels like people 257 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: have been sleeping on it for a while, especially if 258 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: you're in the NFC and you haven't seen him. He's 259 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: only been in the league two years, but his highest 260 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: ranking was number two at safety in the NFL generally. 261 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: Your thoughts about Kaylan coming into this year and about 262 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: the fact that he he ended up number ten. 263 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: He got into the top ten for safeties. 264 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: Your thoughts The problem Bullock as is who he plays with. 265 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: He's got three players in front of him and Stingley 266 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: and Lasseter and Petrie, who are among the best in 267 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: the NFL at their position. The Texas, to me, are 268 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: the most talented secondary. And I pay attention to these 269 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: lists if it's somebody I respect, and Jeremy Fowler does 270 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: this every year, and it's anonymous, of course, and it's 271 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: good reading. It's like there's people out there with rankings 272 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: I've never heard of, and I'll look at their Twitter 273 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: and they got like three thousand followers and they're watching 274 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: film and giving their opinions, and that's fine. They're trying 275 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: to get cliges. But like the one that I respect 276 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: the most about quarterbacks is Greg Cosell and Benjamin Solak 277 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: from ESPN because he does all his rankings based on 278 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: analytics and he's really good at it and he's very Island. 279 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: Texas Jeremy Fowlers said on an interview, if they get 280 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: their offensive lining gear, they can win the Super Bowl, 281 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: and I'm like, wow, that's amazing to me. And there's 282 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: some others that I pay attention to, and I think 283 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: Bullock he's going to have to get interceptions and he's 284 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: going to have to have big numbers for people to 285 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: notice him because he's not the kind of hitter that 286 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: last is. He doesn't he's not doesn't have the ability 287 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: at Stingley, who's one of the two best corners in 288 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: the league and has acknowledged such. And Petrie last year 289 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: started to get a lot more respect because the big 290 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: games he had in big games, and so I think 291 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: Bullock is going to need to keep me somewhere where 292 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: his name is mentioned among the league leaders and interceptions 293 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: to get the kind of respect that he deserves. And 294 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: in fact, he's only been in the league for two years. 295 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: And so I can't wait to see what that Casario 296 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: is going to do when he's got to pay these guys, 297 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: because he's paid a lot of money, gave Stingley a 298 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 3: great extension. They don't want to lose Lassiter. There's like 299 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: people who wanted him to sign Dexter Lawrence and he 300 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: didn't do squat last year, and he hadn't done really 301 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: squat two or three years. But I'm thinking, would you 302 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: take him and give him a new contract as expensive, 303 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 3: like say Kamari Lassiter. Well, the answer is no, And 304 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: I think they did a really good job getting Cayden 305 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: to come in here in the second round. And then 306 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 3: we I think we all agree that Tommy Togia if 307 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: he picks up where he left off last year. If 308 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: I'm Caserio, I'm trying to get Togya to an extension 309 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: before the season because if you wait a season and 310 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: he plays the way he did at the end of 311 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: last season, he may price himself out. But when you 312 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: got to pay people money, it means they're playing well. 313 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: And one of the reasons people like to play for 314 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: the Texas is because Casario does pay good money and 315 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: he doesn't make him take long contracts. So the agents say, okay, 316 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: well take this three year extension at fifty million a 317 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: year and maybe after two years you make seventy. And 318 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: so that's why I think they'll be doing great. Always 319 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: do great in free agency as long as they have money. 320 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: But I can't wait to see this secondary. I don't 321 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: want it to be like I had it last year 322 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: when offense was on the field and I'm like, you know, 323 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: first down, they gave one yard, second down Strouds under pressure, 324 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: thirties under pressure, and I'm like, just get the offense 325 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 3: off the field. I want to watch the defense because 326 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: the defense is fun. 327 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are fun to watch. 328 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: Kaitlyn comes in tenth in the safety rankings, and you 329 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: mentioned in general coming here at number eleventh, and this 330 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: is where I think had they just taken and done 331 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: Nichols or Stars or you know, I think Janla Petrie 332 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: would have headed up that division. 333 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: But he comes in first. 334 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: Nuner we'll mention, said an NFC scout, He's a nickel 335 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: but can play safety. Don't think he gets nearly enough credit. 336 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: Would love to have him. I think there are a 337 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: lot of teams that think like that now because they 338 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: play so much nickel. And I think the Texans has 339 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: done a really nice job with Jalen, finding different roles 340 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: for him so he's not stuck covering abouta Adams like 341 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: he was in the Jets game in twenty twenty four. 342 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: You know, they try and keep him out of those situations, 343 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: and he flourishes now in this particular defense. So Kalin 344 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: at ten and basically Jalen Petrie at eleven. 345 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: They did the receivers. 346 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: And look there there have not been too many offensive 347 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: players for the Texans that got in the top ten, but. 348 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: John Nico Collins came in at number eight. 349 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: He got right in beyond the two Cowboys, Seedee Lamb 350 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: at six, George Pickens at seven, Nico Collins at eight. 351 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: An executive in the NFL said, this combination of size 352 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: strengthen speed, route running, hands in ball skills can make 353 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: plays when contested, and I think this is the different 354 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: Rinch general. This changed in twenty twenty three, and I 355 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: think it's what has changed for Nico going forward and. 356 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: How physical he is after the catch. 357 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Your thoughts about Nico Collins top ten, top eight in 358 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: the NFL at wide receiver. 359 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: There can't be many better John at breaking tackles on 360 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: balls over the middle and getting the extra yards. The 361 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: Niko he used his size. He's fearless and that's one 362 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: reason you know he gets hurt. We've talked about this before. 363 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: If he could play a full season, he might have 364 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns, fifteen hundred yards because he's so good. But 365 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: he has yet to do that. Maybe this will be 366 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: the season he will And I think if Jay Niggins 367 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: emerges like most of us think he will in his 368 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: second season based on what we saw as a rookie, 369 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: and then based on what we've heard about the off season, 370 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: and he's raised to step up and he is a 371 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: he looks just like Nico, same size, and I'm sure 372 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: he's worked his tail off because Nico has a great 373 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: work ethic in the weight room. And can you imagine 374 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: if you had two Nico Collins And I think higgins 375 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: emergence will help Nico and he won't get it. He'll 376 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: still get double teamed, but maybe they'll have to have 377 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: somebody worried about Higgins as well. And then in the slot, 378 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: I was talking last night to Patrick Crayton and Sean 379 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: Bajani on six' ten about the receivers and if you 380 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: think you Got nico and you've Got, higgins AND i 381 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: Think Jay knowle in his second year is really gonna. 382 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: Emerge Tank dell comes. BACK i don't Think tank can 383 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: pick up where he. WAS i think that'll be next. 384 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: Year but if they could just get him back in 385 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: a threat to catch thirty thirty five passes and a 386 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: few touchdowns having him as, WELL i Think udginson is. 387 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: Underrated you, know their. RECEIVERS a good lot of people, think, 388 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: well they need more. RECEIVERS i don't think they need. 389 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: More they need somebody to emerge as a tight end 390 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: Behind schultz who could catch and block Like schultz. Does 391 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: and they, need as we all, know backup defensive, end 392 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: and and there's and then of course they need offensive 393 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: linemen to step. Up but this team does not need a. 394 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 3: LOT i can't remember a time going into a training 395 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: camp when A texans team didn't need. 396 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: Much, yeah that's. TRUE i mean. 397 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: THIS i mean how many times we, said, hey starting, 398 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: positions maybe, center, MAYBE i, mean, look we'll see. 399 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: What kaden McDonald. 400 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: Does but you, know a defensive, lineman you rotate those, 401 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: guys and to be, Going burke do a great job 402 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: of rotating those guys during a. Game Rod wright is 403 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: incredible about getting guys in and out on the defensive 404 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: line to make sure that, guys uh stay fresh for 405 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: the most part as much as you can be on 406 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: a defensive offensive. Line all, right we got more coming 407 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: up With john, McLain The, general and then we'll hear 408 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: From Logan, hall one of the more, underrated underdiscussed key 409 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: pieces to The texans in twenty twenty, Six well a 410 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: little bit, later but More john, McClain Including, quarterback The 411 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: netflix Series i've watched it? All has a general seen? 412 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: It and what are his thoughts on one of the 413 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: four focal points of the, series a guy That i've 414 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: always liked and. Admired we'll see what The general has 415 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: to say about that next. 416 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: On Texans All, Access What's? 417 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: Happened? 418 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: Everybody welcome back This thursday edition At Texans All. Access 419 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: i'm your, Host John, Harris football and a sideline reporter 420 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: for Your Houston. Texans and one of my favorite shows 421 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: each year is As Seth payne likes to say And 422 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: Sean pennery has like to say On SPORT thretyo six 423 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: ten in the, Morning. Quarterback, uh the receiver ONE i 424 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: thought was, good BUT i think quarterback has been really 425 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: really good this. Year they picked four, Guys Joe, flacco Cam, Ward. 426 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Jane daniels And Baker. 427 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: Mayfield SO i was HOPING i could find some time 428 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i know HOW i. AM i, know, MAN i 429 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: get started with this and we want to see the whole. 430 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: Thing i'm gonna want to binge. This so got back From. 431 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: AUSTIN i don't. Know tuesday ish kind of had the 432 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: house to myself after my son went to. Bed i'm, 433 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: like all, right let me start. THIS i couldn't stop. 434 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: IT i watched four, episodes bang bang bang, bang got 435 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: up in the morning like all, RIGHT i got a 436 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: few more, left let's watch the rest of, them and 437 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: ended up binging the series in large. PARKS i thought 438 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: the four were very, compelling and they told some really 439 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: interesting stories about things that had. Happened they all had 440 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: adversity during the, year and it was a really really good. 441 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: Series SO i asked the general what he thought about 442 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: the series and what he thought about one of the four. 443 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: QUARTERBACKS i was chosen to be, Featured Baker. 444 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: MAYFIELD i ask, you AND i don't know if you've 445 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: had a chance yet because it just came out a 446 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: couple of days, Ago but, hey do you watch The 447 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: quarterback Or receiver series that has been On? 448 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: Netflix do you watch? 449 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: It? 450 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: No i'm the only person in the cut in the 451 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: world that doesn't Have. NETFLIX i saw the other day 452 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: they have three hundred eleven million. Oldbscribers that's why they 453 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 3: can pay so much. Money but, NO i don't have. 454 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: IT i know about. It i've read about, it BUT 455 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: i don't have it to see. 456 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: It, Okay So i'm gonna ask even without seeing, it 457 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i finished it last. Night and the four quarterbacks 458 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: that they honed in on Cam ward very. 459 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: INTERESTING a very. 460 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: CONFIDENT i can see Where tennessee will turned the corner 461 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: because that guy's the leader of that. 462 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: TEAM i could see. 463 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: That Joe, flacco the story about the stories about him were. 464 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: Incredible we remember that game that he had against The 465 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh steelers On thursday night where he led The bengals 466 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: to a, win but behind the scenes of that game 467 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: is is. Incredible then they Had Jayden daniels who was 468 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: basically just he was hurt all. Year and then There's Baker. Mayfield, 469 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: general what's your what are your thoughts About Baker? Mayfield 470 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: he just. FINISHED i think he said that was year 471 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: eight if my math is, correct twenty twenty. Five he's 472 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: going into year nine with The Tampa Bay. Buccaneers where 473 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: do you fall On Baker? MAYFIELD i, mean is HE 474 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: i don't know if you can put him in the elite, 475 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: category BUT i know he does a lot for that. 476 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: Team it was clear on quarterback that his leadership is definitely, 477 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: warranted but there's still a little bit of yolo football in, 478 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: him where he's always diving for first. Downs he's taken 479 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: some times unnecessary, hits and that's what gets him in 480 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: trouble in some cases because he's having to play injured a. 481 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Lot what are your thoughts About Baker? 482 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: Mayfield ever since his rookie year when The browns came 483 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: here and he was terrible in the first, half and 484 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: he threw it over three hundred yards in a second 485 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: and they almost. Won i've been a fan of his 486 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: AND i never really understood why The browns got rid 487 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: of him after he led them to the playoffs and 488 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: they Beat pittsburgh and they generally don't beat The, steelers 489 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: and they did, IT i think In, pittsburgh but they 490 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: are The, browns and they screwed it up and he bounced. 491 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 3: Around and one of the most remarkable things about his 492 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: career was when he went to The rams and he 493 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: had two days to get ready to, play and he 494 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: came in and he led them down the field to 495 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: pull out a. Victory i've never seen anything like. It 496 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: he's a dynamic. Leader he gets in your, face he talks, 497 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 3: trash BUT i know they have great regrets letting him 498 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: get away In, cleveland and maybe he was immature then 499 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: and he wasn't. Ready he had to bounce around To. 500 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 3: Carolina that's so weird to think About mayfield And darnold 501 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: being backups at The, panthers and SO i love watching 502 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: the guy. PLAY i watched that ten part series that 503 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 3: was on THE Nfl network about The buccaneers fifty year, 504 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: anniversary and it was really, good and the part About 505 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: mayfield was really good what he did in his brief 506 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: stint with, them and now he's found a, home the 507 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: brief stint before the documentary, Ended he's found a. Home 508 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: he wants new. CONTRACT i don't see him getting fifty 509 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: or sixty, million but he's perfect for that. Team AND 510 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: i still can't believe they Let Mike evans go sign 511 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: with the forty nine, ers BUT i think they. Better 512 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: they do consider him as their quarterback for quite a, 513 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: while and you'd think as he'd get older he wouldn't 514 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: be as. Physical remember he played one year he had 515 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: a shoulders separation and he kept. Playing and there's not 516 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: any bite's tougher than he, is and he hadn't missed 517 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: any extended period of. Time but whatever his agent can 518 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: get out of The, buccaneers and they're known for paying, 519 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: well And Jason light's a great general. Manager whatever he, 520 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: gets he's certainly worth. It AND i remember his career 521 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: in college when he was At Texas tech and then 522 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: he and then he ends up At. Oklahoma he won The, 523 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: heisman didn't He he? Did? 524 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Absolutely and. 525 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: Then when the, scout THE gm at the, Time john 526 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: where The browns took him number, One John Dorsey. Dorsey 527 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: people were flabbergasted that he would be the first overall 528 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: pick and they took. Him and it's The browns fault 529 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: that he's still not. There and if you think all 530 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: the bad mistakes The browns have made with, quarterbacks including 531 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: the trade the two hundred and thirty million For, watson 532 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: but they could have just Kept mayfield and they might 533 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: have been A Super bowl contender these last few. 534 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: Years i'll tell a story for. Listeners. JOHN i don't 535 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: know If i've ever told you the. Story my BUDDY. 536 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: Tj reeves is the sideline reporter for The, bucks and 537 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: it was the twenty twenty three. SEASON i think it 538 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: was maybe twenty. FOUR i think it was twenty four 539 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: they had. Lost it was twenty three they had lost 540 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: to The, lions or twenty four they lost to The, 541 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: lions and The lions were moving. 542 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: On to THE mc championship. 543 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: Game they were taking on the forty nine, ERS i, 544 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: believe and it was a game in which The bucks 545 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: had led for a lot of it and they had 546 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: a drive at the end When baker got picked off 547 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: by The. Lions it was a tough. Loss in the locker, 548 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: room you, know everybody was, sad and you, know it 549 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: was a tough. Moment and they were in the locker 550 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: room And baker looked over AT tj and he, says you, 551 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: know WHICH i thought was. Fascinating he, said not right, 552 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: now But i'll get you. Later Because baker was just 553 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: kind of head and hands AND tj was not like 554 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: pressing him for an, interview But baker just, said not, 555 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: Now i'll get you. Later So baker goes through all 556 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: of his you, know press. Responsibilities at the, end he 557 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: gets done and he goes over To Nelson louise and he's, 558 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 2: like WHERE'S. 559 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: TJ i NEED. Tj i've got to talk to. 560 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: Him and before they left that locker, Room baker went 561 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: Found salom REPORTER Tj reeves and did about eight minutes 562 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: with him and after the game AND tj was, LIKE 563 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: i will forever go to bat For Baker. Mayfield there's 564 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: no question about. 565 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 3: That. 566 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: GENERAL i know you've been watching The World. 567 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: Cup what did you think About england's choke job yesterday 568 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: Against argentina blowing a lead late in that? 569 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: MATCH i Wanted england to. Win and one reason is 570 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: my former colleague At The, Chronicle BRIAN. T, smith is 571 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: a good friend of mine THAT i takes back and forth. 572 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: With he works with talkSPORT dot com and writes about 573 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: The World cup and his real job is covering THE 574 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: nfl in THE. Uk but he Was he was telling 575 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: me how everybody is going crazy In, london and he 576 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: and his wife and His labrador Retriever, moni because you 577 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: take him. Everywhere they had a reservation for three at 578 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: a pub down the street so they could watch, it 579 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 3: AND i know they are. Devastated and the, manager who 580 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: they it's a manager like baseball to everybody blasted him 581 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: because when they got up one, nill he just started 582 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: putting guys in for defense and backed off and Let 583 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: massey and the other scorers put the heat on him 584 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: and everybody is killing. Him brian has a column to 585 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: day on talkSPORT dot com about they need to go 586 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: After Pep, guardiola one of the Greatest Premier league coaches in, 587 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: history because where it is he may go to THE 588 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: us Since ponzetino's contracts, up and he Said england cannot 589 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: let him go to THE. Us but it was a choke. 590 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: Job it was a terrible managing. Job can And brian 591 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: and said talk radio over. There you can't imagine because 592 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: they came the closest in sixty. Years BUT i gotta tell, 593 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: YOU i am one of the billions that loves Watching. 594 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: Messi he was the player of the game yesterday even 595 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 3: though he didn't, score but, man he had a couple of. 596 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: Passes they were, perfect and the best one he kicked 597 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: with his right. Right most of the guys your left or. 598 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 3: Right he's a switch kicker and he can do. Both 599 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: So i'm gonna love Watching. Messi and it's funny because 600 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: most Of messi's career has been played In spain and 601 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: they love him In, spain but now they're gonna hate. 602 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: Him AND i Think spain will Win spain as they 603 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: Say is conceded only one goal in the. Tournament we 604 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: of course was, allowed but their defense has been. Fantastic 605 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: everybody Said spain And france was the real final And 606 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: i'd love to See argentina become the first back to 607 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: back Champion brazil in nineteen sixty. Two and if anybody 608 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: can do, it the thirty nine year Old messy can 609 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: because he has been. Extraordinary. 610 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah there's a great video clip Of Jude, bellingham the 611 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: star For, england And messi kind of having a little 612 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: verbal ted a te and then you See messi's reaction 613 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 2: to Something bellingham. Said he kind of nods like, okay 614 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: what's this and then he dominated the rest of the. 615 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: Match it was. 616 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: Incredible, general your, DOCUMENTARY i, know has been GAINING i 617 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: mean by the, minute more fans watching that documentary and 618 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: how great it. Was but what's been going? ON i 619 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: knew you guys got some recognition. 620 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: Lately. 621 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: Know, yeah THE pbio story, separate But igwa we were 622 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: honored with meritorious awards at the ANNUAL Pbio Coaches association 623 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 3: convention here for nine hundred, people and we made speeches 624 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 3: and they honored us because of the attention that we 625 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 3: brought to The Prairieview Interscholastic league and that league that 626 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: lasted for fifty, years and then we were at a. 627 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: Church this, week we've been showing to a lot of. Museums, 628 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: coaches schools were lined up For Texas southern AND i 629 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 3: Think Chris dishmond is the coach and they're going to 630 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: bring a bunch of athletes and a bunch of administrators 631 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: when we go. There it's, funny it's called THE pviil, 632 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: story but we can't get through the PREVIEW a AND, 633 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 3: m and so we're traveling around the. State we're going 634 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 3: to The Bush library In College station next. Month i'm 635 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: really excited about. That so we've been blessed and the, 636 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: producers the Director Mark, burns and the producers Got Netherie Rob. 637 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: Lynch they're working on streaming And Mark lynch told, me 638 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: from the time most documentaries come, out it's up to 639 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 3: two years two year process to get picked up by streaming. 640 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: Service and what we'd love to do is get picked 641 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: up by a streaming service that have four or five. 642 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: Parts because we have so many interviews we were not 643 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: able to use in the documentary. Itself but it's been 644 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 3: an honor to show. It i've had a blast doing. 645 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: It we continue to work on Our Dan pastorini. Documentary 646 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: every interview we get is unbelievable About. Dan Sam, jalila 647 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: who was with him in racing the stories he told. 648 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: US i, said, well tell us the. Story dan wouldn't 649 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: want you to tell, us and he did and And 650 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: dan walked in and, said what have you told? Him 651 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: and THEN i, said, well he told us this story 652 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: And pastor he, goes oh my, GOD i can't believe 653 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 3: you told him. THAT i, Said, dan do you mind 654 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 3: leaving the? Room And Willie alexander play corner every Year 655 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 3: dan was, There Woody campbell a running, Back Mike barber was. 656 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 3: Fantastic we were this is going to be another year 657 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 3: long process and it's it's been. Fun but the pbils 658 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: story on there's never an expiration. Date we could show it. 659 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: Forever, Absolutely general, congratulations it's well. 660 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: Deserved. 661 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: Uh you guys have done such a tremendous job with that, 662 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: documentary And i'm glad uh to see the recognition you 663 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: guys have. GOTTEN i cannot. WAIT i cannot wait for 664 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: the Damn pastor and you document uh. Documentary mark AND 665 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 2: i have talked about that on and off the, air, 666 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: like oh my, gosh what are they gonna what. 667 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be able to? Say what are the 668 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: how many stories are we gonna? Get how many stories 669 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: are they still not gonna be able to tell? About damn. 670 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: It it's gonna be so much. Fun da we all hang, 671 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: out you. 672 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: Know and and and he as his As Sam slalo, 673 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: said he's got a lot to hang. Out and uh 674 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: and Also Mad Dog entertainment dot tv is where you 675 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: can get the PB I l story separate BUT evi 676 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 3: Mad Dog entertainment dot. Tv it's right, there and we 677 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: want as many people to see. It and if there's 678 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 3: people at museums and churches and schools that want us 679 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: to come show, it we'd be happy to do. 680 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: It, general it's. Fantastic appreciate your, time my. Man thank 681 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: you very. 682 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: Much, John thank you very much as, always The. 683 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: General that's my, dude man Love john. Mcclaan glad he 684 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: joined me on the. Show we'll Get mark back next 685 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: week and the three of us we'll be back together next. 686 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: Week but great to have The general on coming up. 687 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 2: Next the most underdiscussed key player for either side of 688 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: the football this Year Logan, hall nobody really talks about. Him, 689 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: well we got a chance to talk to. Him we'll 690 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: have that for you next right here On Texas All. 691 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: Access, Yes, sarah. 692 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back to this final segment Of Texans All, access 693 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: coming at you From Hundai Texans Radio. Studio i'm your, 694 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: Host Sean Harris football and A southern reporter for Your Houston. 695 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 2: Texans AND i tease this going into the, break one 696 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: of the most world least most, underdiscussed least, Discussed i'm 697 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: an exact way of putting. It But Logan. Hall not 698 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people talking About Logan. Hall Maybe OTA's 699 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 2: medi caamp because he was coming back from a little 700 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: bit of injury at the end of the. Season BUT 701 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: i Think Logan hall is gonna play big role for this. 702 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 2: Team he had a chance to share with me And 703 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: mark and that interview is. 704 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 5: Right here all, Right, logan great to see. You tell 705 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 5: us how your journey's been so far here arriving At, 706 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 5: houston becoming part of The Houston. 707 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 4: Texas you, know it's been. Wild. Man it's a bit 708 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 4: of a homecoming for me back In, houston the state Of. 709 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 4: Texas so really happy about. That around my family back 710 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 4: in the. City it's been, great. Man the staff has been. 711 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: Incredible coaching staff has been. Awesome getting on my teammates and, 712 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 4: brothers it's been. 713 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: Fun so you going back to all your, haunts like 714 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: all the places you used to frequent when you're At 715 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: university Of, houston late night food, Spots, frenchies et. 716 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Cetera ya hit those spots. 717 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 4: Slowly i'm coming around man in and, Out waterburger, Obviously 718 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 4: state forty. EIGHT i hit a, couple. Definitely there's a long, list, 719 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: man If i'll be able to hit them. 720 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 5: All, yeah exactly what was it like to be In 721 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 5: tampa after being In houston for so? 722 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 4: Long? Uh you, know kind of similar, weatherwise at least you, know, sunny, humid, 723 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 4: uh which is. Worse texas heat is just a different beast. 724 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 4: TOGETHER yea honestly. 725 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: Good, answer good, Answer we've got it. 726 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 4: Covered, yeah but it does get hot. THERE i, definitely, 727 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 4: uh we'll Say I'm i'm partial to The Texas texas. 728 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: Weather, yeah there's no question about. That Logan for a 729 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: lot of people that haven't had a chance to watch you, 730 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: play either At university Of houston or At Tampa, bay 731 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: but They're texans. Fans what are The texans gotten In Logan? 732 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 3: Hall? 733 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 4: Uh they got a, monster. Man i'm gonna do EVERYTHING 734 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 4: i can every down to help us put the team 735 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 4: in a good position to. Win, uh you, know on, 736 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 4: VERSATILE i can play all across the. LINE i got 737 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 4: some juice in the pass, Rush i'm stay on the. 738 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 4: RUN i MEAN i got a good a good uh good. 739 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 4: Player all. 740 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 5: Right so you come in here and see this line 741 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 5: and rod right the guys. 742 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 4: And i'm the. 743 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 5: Edge you Got will And daniil And Inside sheldon And 744 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 5: tommy and everybody. Else what was your first impression getting 745 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 5: into the, room getting to meet the guys and becoming 746 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 5: part of the. 747 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 4: GROUP i was just, grateful, man because you, know it 748 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 4: makes my life a lot, easier you, know specifically on the, 749 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 4: edge you, know And Danil anderson or, Yeah Daniel hunter 750 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 4: And Will. Anderson they got some juice and it makes 751 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 4: my life a whole lot. Easier so really excited to 752 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: play with those guys and lace it. Up as far 753 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 4: as the d. Tackles those guys do a great job as, 754 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 4: well so you know there's not going to be any 755 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 4: losing a, step you, know in the rotation and things like. 756 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 4: That so definitely. Excited. 757 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: Logan very few guys on the face of the planet 758 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: can be a guy that can survive, inside can play. 759 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: Outside you're one of those unique freakazoids that can do. 760 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 2: That you can play, inside you can play the three. 761 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 2: Technique you can also go outside and play from the. 762 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 2: Outside do you have a particular preference of what you'd 763 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 2: rather be able to? 764 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: Do would you like to. 765 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: Play outside when teams are trying to run and go 766 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: inside try to rush against? Guards how do you kind 767 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 2: of look at, that because you're very unique in that 768 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: way that you can play both and play both inside 769 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 2: outside probably. 770 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 4: Equally, well, Absolutely, YEAH i definitely prefer. Inside that's where 771 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: the most time was spent from me from college and 772 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 4: now too the. League but LIKE i, Said i've been 773 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 4: trained to do it. All, definitely pass rushing is easier 774 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 4: on the inside guards on his athletic SO i definitely prefer. 775 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 4: That but you, know LIKE i, SAID i can do it. 776 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: All, Yeah, logan we won't tell WHY i tell her 777 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: what you just. 778 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 4: Said, yeah, yeah we won't tell. 779 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 5: Why, well they'll have enough battles of trading camp coming. 780 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 5: Up how were you spending your off seasons when you 781 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 5: were In. Tampa would you come? 782 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 4: Here how would you spend the? Time so my son 783 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 4: actually lives, here SO i would come and get him 784 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 4: and bring him back To tampa and my entire immediate 785 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 4: families in you, know three hours north of, here SO 786 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 4: i often would find myself back, here but typically it 787 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 4: would be spent back In. 788 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: Tampa, logan when you're you had a chance to see 789 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: this team up close last week or last year we 790 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 2: two you saw, Him i'm thinking twenty twenty three as. 791 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 2: Well what are your thoughts about The? Texans what did 792 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: you think from outside looking? In and as you've gotten 793 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 2: to be here the last few, days has there been 794 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: anything where you go? 795 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: Home, MAN i didn't think it. 796 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: Would be like, that hopefully in a good, way but 797 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: anything different from what you perceived it to be from 798 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 2: the outside looking. 799 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 4: In, uh not. Necessarily i've, always you, know had a 800 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 4: lot of respect for the team and the way they 801 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 4: get after it and play. Football their brand of football is, 802 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 4: tenacious you, know they finish really. Tough so definitely glad 803 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 4: to be a part of. That and those were some 804 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 4: of the THINGS i had thought about The. 805 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 5: Texans, yeah we had a few guys who have had 806 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 5: the experience of playing For Todd bowles And Demiko. Ryans 807 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 5: but tell us about your impressions Of demiko as you 808 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 5: get here play for him. 809 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 4: Now, yeah very. Impressed he's you, know got great, energy really, 810 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 4: enthusiastic a lot of, confidence you, know all things you're 811 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 4: looking to play, for but you, know defensive. Minded i'm 812 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 4: really excited to you, know see what he can dial 813 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 4: up for. US i know he's gonna do a great, 814 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 4: job is he you, know has been. Doing but similarly 815 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 4: To Toad, bulls you, know he you, know dialed us 816 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 4: up really, well had a lot of good things going 817 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 4: a lot of different. Looks So i'm. 818 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: Excited logan when you think back to your rookie campaign In, 819 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 2: tampa so you right now current, Day Logan hall can 820 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 2: walk in and there's Rookie Logan hall sitting there and 821 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 2: he looks up and he's, like what's, up? 822 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 4: Bro give me a piece of. 823 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 2: Advice what's the one piece of advice you would give 824 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 2: to young Rookie Logan. 825 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 4: Hall put your head down and. Work, really that's all it. Is, Work, 826 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 4: yeah keep, working perfecting your craft and just believing yourself. 827 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 5: Because you got the, Tools, loogan what other sports do 828 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 5: you like to watch when you're just having some recreational 829 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 5: time WATCHING. 830 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 4: Tv you, Know i'm not a big sports guy, really, 831 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 4: yeah which is shocking to a lot of. PEOPLE i 832 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 4: try and get away from. It just. All always spent 833 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 4: a lot of family. Time big movie, guy BUT i 834 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 4: don't want too many. 835 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 5: Sports, okay name two of the best movies you've seen 836 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 5: the last few. 837 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 4: Years what pops? Out oh, man that's. HARD i gotta 838 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 4: Say dune, Too, okay incredible, movie and Then Interstellar interstellar's. Costell, 839 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 4: YEAH i haven't seen The. Dunes, YEAH i got to 840 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 4: get the more. Movies, MAN i have seen either one of. 841 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: Those WHAT i got? It i'm telling, YOU i got 842 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: to get the. 843 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 5: More every meme In america is based On interstellar these. 844 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 5: Days did you see The Hail mary project one With? 845 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 5: Gosling have you seen that? One that's space? MOVIE i 846 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 5: don't THINK i. 847 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: Have i've heard that. 848 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 4: REVIEWS i do want to go see. That you enjoy that? 849 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 4: One put it in my notes for? 850 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah top Gun, maverick you saw that? 851 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 4: Too oh, man that was you, know that's the top 852 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 4: three for. Sure i've seen that. 853 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: One, OKAY i can speak on, now AND i. 854 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 4: Was you, KNOW i don't really understand the hype about 855 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,959 Speaker 4: the first. ONE i think it's a nostalgia thing because second, 856 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 4: ONE i had to watch the first one after watching the, Second. 857 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 5: So you watched the first. 858 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 4: One. 859 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 5: Second, okay, well look he's, Young. Johnny this is what. 860 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 5: HAPPENED i, understand AND i GUESS i actually Watched rocky 861 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 5: four before the Original rocky and they didn't get. 862 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 2: It LIKE i, understand BUT i get. 863 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: It so have you seen The rocky? Movie h here and? 864 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 4: THERE i. DON'T i. 865 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 5: Haven't, okay, okay you Got rocky. 866 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 4: Four. 867 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 5: SEE i recommend starting With rocky four because you can 868 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 5: watch the backstory later like it's a. Prequel But rocky 869 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 5: four takes you right into a big. Adventure, Now johnny, 870 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 5: disagree AND i. 871 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: DISAGREE i just feel, like if you're gonna watch, it, 872 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 2: start you, Know rocky's got all the other Ones. No 873 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 2: one through, four Then creed, one, two, three and that's 874 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 2: all you. Need that's, it and you could probably knock 875 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 2: them all out on our flight To. 876 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 5: London but here's the, Thing, yeah thoughts on thoughts on 877 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 5: going To. London some of the elements of the schedule, 878 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 5: here that's a big. 879 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 4: One, uh you know there's some. Excitement uh just didn't 880 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 4: be able to leave the. Country you, know there's some 881 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 4: adversity in, that you, know getting your bodies right and 882 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 4: things like, that but, uh it's an, opportunity an opportunity 883 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 4: for us to go out and win. 884 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: It, well you're going over internationally play game. 885 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 4: Brillain, okay that's, Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah who'd you 886 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 4: guys play when you went over? There? Seattle? Seattle? Okay, honestly, 887 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 4: man the field was all it was like we're on a, 888 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 4: slip his. Slide it was so. Muddy it was, bad 889 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 4: but crazy. Experience grateful for. 890 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 5: It, yeah, yep all, Right, logan thanks so much for joining. 891 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 5: Us we appreciate the. 892 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 4: Time, yeah no, Doubt thank you. 893 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: Guys, now WHEN i tell you that dude is impressive 894 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: on the hoof holy, smokes he is hashtag built different. 895 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 2: Facts that's not just. Hyperbole but we Appreciate Logan. HALL 896 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 2: i Appreciate john McClain for joining us on the show as. 897 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: Well we'll see Tomorrow rudy in as, always Go. 898 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 1: Texans