1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Sham, my baby Sham, now your baby Okay, this is 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: my baby Sham. Yes, but I see it on the video. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: I see it on the album's Baby Sham back because. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: I think with the project get a story there you 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Shamp because they wanted to go with Jo Shamp and 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: they were having some issues with Baby Sham at the time. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: There was an alcohol company by the name of Baby Champagne. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: But we kind of want it, kind of want everything 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: in court. But so baby Sham is mine. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know if you dropped that, because you know 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: how people be like little something. I'm not anymore. 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: I'm not from there one. I've always been Sham for 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: the boys, baby Sham for the ladies. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: But there's definitely some baby Sham for the ladies on 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: this new album. Yes, you know, so congratulations. I want 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: to say I was playing there for everybody up here too, 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: and they were like it sounds fire, thank you very much. 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I can tell. And even from the lead single you know, 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: and you definitely are a hustler all this time. 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Always always been just working NonStop, always been touring. Hustling 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: in my blood is personal to me because those are 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: my brothers, you know what I mean. We've been on 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: tour for the last two weeks and it's been fun 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: just being on tour myself and Demion Marely. I've been 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: on tour before, but me Demon my kid on the 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: same tour. It's been it's been nothing but a vibe, 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: not but just fun for proforming every night like ten 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand people. And surprisingly they're singing the single already, 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: Hustling in my Blood. 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: They're singing it. It's hardcore, yes, And the album is 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: called Charlotte or the Project. It's not epy because it's 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 1: longer than that, so it's really a full album. 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: Yes. 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: So Charlotte Crescent, that's the neighborhood. 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: That's where I grew up, where you grew up. Yeah, 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: that's where it all started from day one. 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: That's been the community that molded me. And I think 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: that this project I wanted to go back into like 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: that archive and like find all those things that I 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: haven't said before. You know what I mean, Because before 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: you've been talking about stuff that probably you grew up with, 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: stuff that your experience, but you have certain pockets, are 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: certain vats that you never went back into as a 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: musician and as someone that's creative and for this project, 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: I think I needed to go back to the grassroots. 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's been over twenty five years though, because 47 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I know it's twenty five years since your first album 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: came out, but you were doing music before that. What 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: do you feel like you haven't talked about? Because that's 50 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: interesting to me to hear that. 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: Oh, there's so many things that I haven't talked about. 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: Like I think that I've spoken about just the struggles 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: and growing up in Jamaica's struggles. You could eat a 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: short armor albums, but I haven't spoken about after you 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: get what you need to get to take yourself out 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: of the struggles, how do you maintain that? Okay, I 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: think that's something for our audience to hear, you know. 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: I mean, there's something to learn from that. I haven't 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: pinpointed yet, but I know that that's something that is 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: really important to speak on, you know what I mean. 61 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: I like this on Maddest Life because it is true, 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: like you feel like you everything that you wanted to do, 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: You've had a good life. I like that because it's 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of like, if you know, God forbid things are 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: and today at least I feel like I know I've 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: lived imagine Yes. 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: To me, Mada's Life is one of my favorite songs 68 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: because to me, it's probably the real song on the 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: Under the Project. And to me, they say that sometimes 70 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: you get up and you have people that say, I 71 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: wish are dis growing up, or I wish I had that, 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: or I wish. 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Things was like this or things was like that. 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: I never think that way, because it's like a domino effect. 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: If you take. 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: Away the struggle of Angela when you were growing up, 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: then probably you don't even have your mom right right, 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: even have your that your siblings, your family, you know 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: what I mean. You don't have what you grow to 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: love and embrace about your whole environment. 81 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: It's like if you went back in time and change something, 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: something else would be so different. You don't know where 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: you'll be right now. 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: You don't know where you would be. 85 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: And I know that all that struggle growing up in 86 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: Sherlock and Kingston is what made me shrunk, you know 87 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: what I mean, and made me kind of push every 88 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: single day. I ask my father at like age ten, 89 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: so I was the man of the oars from age ten, 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: so I had to be hustling and grinding from age ten, 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: I would I would never change that. 92 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: My school fee in Jamaica, you have to pay school fee. 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: My school fee was the last one to pay every 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: year because I'm the wash belly in Jamaica. 95 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: The wash belly is the last one. 96 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: And that's and if other kids know that too, that's 97 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: they knew. 98 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: Because the bursa. 99 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: The bursa is the person that comes around and come 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: to the classroom and let you know that you needed 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: at the financial office. So other kids and they used 102 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: to laugh, but at the end of the day, it's 103 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: just part of what makes you. 104 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: It's like it's like when you say when when when 106 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: you hear we say, oh selling And I'm a blood 107 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: go for it the mud, through the fire and the flood. 108 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: Listen to my every word. Whoa, We're the strongest of 109 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: the strongest. 110 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: So I never changed nothing. 111 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: And if I never lived to say another day, I 112 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: would never live this another way because I'm. 113 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: Living my life without fear. Party every day. I like 114 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: up anywhere. 115 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking about And that's why it's lawless fullyless. And 116 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: that's your label, yes, all right, so loawless. So this 117 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: album is also out on your label. Yes, And if 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: you think about all the things that happened to you 119 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: even as a kid, growing up to where you are today, 120 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: you know, and the help that you have from producers 121 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: and people who believe in you. I'm sure for you 122 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: at some point you were like, this is something I 123 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: need to pay forward. 124 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: You have to pay it forward. You have to have 125 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: to pay it forward. And that's what I believe in, 126 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I've been around probably the 127 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: greatest producer in Dancile history, which is Kelly, from day one. 128 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: And the only reason why dev is not on this 129 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: project is because I was creating. I reached out. I 130 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: showed is my brother. It's not just like a producer, 131 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We live in the same 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: community all my life, since I started doing music. We 133 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: have seen each other every day for the last thirty years, 134 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 135 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: But Dave was in the Obamas working on something. 136 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: I reached out to him probably January third, and I'm like, YO, want. 137 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: You see there you go, that's for us, that's. 138 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: For us, you know what I mean? 139 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: January third, and I said, Yo, I have this these 140 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: ideas in my head that I need to get out. 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: For my new product project. And he was like, Okay, 142 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: give me two months, and I'm like two months, al right. Cool. 143 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: It was like, what if I come to your mind, 144 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: if you're writing, send me a demo. He can just 145 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: do any of them and I'll start making the beats. 146 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: Do it. 147 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: I started writing and start doing beats and just keep 148 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: on going, and they were coming out, fire coming out 149 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: or I wanted it. By the time they've got to 150 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: Miami to the studio in March, the project was done. 151 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: It was done. 152 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: Done, done. 153 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: So he kind of calmed through it like find it, 154 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: combed through it to make sure everything is all right, and. 155 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, and not as much as previous. 156 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: He was like, you know what, at least everything would 157 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: just have to make sure it's mastered right and it's 158 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: good to go. 159 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: I love that relationship because first of us were already 160 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: hear there's somebody from the beginning of their career still 161 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: is on good terms with the person you know that 162 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: they came up with, because people will see that he 163 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: didn't produce on. 164 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: This, and I think that something is going on, na 165 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: because the next week we're in the studio at Bojo. 166 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: Were the next week about that fire. 167 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: Is that we were working on Budger's album, and we 168 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: did a few collaborations with Bojo, and Dave is the 169 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: one that produced all those, So there's nothing there. It 170 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: was that sometime when your creative juice is flowing, you 171 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: can't stop it from nothing, and it was just flowing 172 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: and everything is coming right. 173 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: And a good producer would also be like, even if 174 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: they put you, go to the side and be like, 175 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 1: this actually sounds great. 176 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: You know. 177 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: That's why I've learned that a good producer is also 178 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: a good collaborator. And when you're a good collaborator, you 179 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: know when to step back and a. 180 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Hater not a heit you know. You mentioned Boji and 181 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: of course I know you've said many a time how 182 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: tel Shiloh was such a huge album for you, and 183 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: that was that was actually huge for us over here, 184 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: too big in the United States, you know, but people 185 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: were talking about you and Boojiuo finally collaborating properly. Yeah, 186 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: So why do you think that took such a long 187 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: time to come about? 188 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: It was. 189 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: It's weird because Deve Kelly is the one that phoned 190 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: at Bojo from Penthos Records and Models Records, and then 191 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: like I met Dev probably two Thousan nineteen ninety two. 192 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: My bad. 193 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: I was in probably seventh grade or eighth grade at 194 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: the time, so you wouldn't record me. So it was 195 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: like you wouldn't record me when you finished with high school. 196 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: And we had the same voice too, where you're a 197 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: little bit yes grown voice. 198 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: And we made a deal that if I came back 199 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: to him ninety five at the time, I was fifteen sixteen, 200 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: but I would be actually graduated from high school with 201 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: proof of gradiation, it would give me a shot. But 202 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: during that three year span, I would still go to 203 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: the studio and I'll be in the studio watching bujaband 204 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: and Terror Fabulous nd Subtherle and Garnet. 205 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: Silk, you name it, terror legend, you legends. 206 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: So I'm dear learning, like like a fly on the 207 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: wall or just a sponge in the corner, just learning 208 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,119 Speaker 2: and watching all they go about, just recording all the techniques. 209 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: But for some reason, Man Bucher never ever did nothing 210 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: at all together. 211 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: Never. 212 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wow, this. 213 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: Is crazy crazy. 214 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: The first time I did a concert with a full 215 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: band outside of Jamaica, it was probably nineteen ninety seven. 216 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: I was seventeen years old, going on to. 217 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: Eighteen and it was Budge's band that Boucher is the 218 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: first person that I watch like did a full rearsal 219 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: with his band. 220 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: So I learned from that, like okay, when it's my time. 221 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: I learned from here to conduct myself with the band, 222 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: or to keep it business, or to keep it professional. 223 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: All of that. 224 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: But for some reason, we have never ever done nothing together. 225 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,479 Speaker 2: So when I saw the text, probably in sometime in Christmas, 226 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: I saw a text coming and say, yo, Bojo, I 227 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: need you on my next project. 228 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: And you can't say no. I'm like, where are you? 229 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: Never say? 230 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: You know that a dog a mel like we don't. 231 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: Bojo is one of my main influences, you know. I 232 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: mean I used to play a sound system as a 233 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: kid growing up, like probably twelve thirteen fourteen. 234 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I used to see if our launch money. 235 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: We used to sell battles in Jamaica, like you can 236 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: actually go to the after parties, like when parties are finished. 237 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: And collect bottles. 238 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: You collect the battles. If you sell those battles, you 239 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: can get money. We used to do that. 240 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: People do that here all the time to see never stops. 241 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: And we used to use that money and buy records 242 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: and all the records we used to buy at the 243 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: time as a bugabant record So with at Boujabanton, I 244 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't have went to Dave Kelly. That's amazing because all 245 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: the records I used to buy, there was one comman, 246 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: Dinaminator BuJo was the artist. 247 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: The producer was Dave Kelly. 248 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: So that's why I went to Dave Kelly and we 249 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: did an artist see history put. 250 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: Us where we are. 251 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what you must have been watching 252 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: as a little kid, you know, and that is the 253 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: time of your life that you could be very fearless, 254 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: right and wanting to do things that nowadays we kind 255 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: of can be like, oh, I don't know if I 256 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: should ask, I don't know if I should do this. 257 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: But when you're like fifteen years old, it's just go 258 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: for it. 259 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: You know, that age you have no fear. You know 260 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: you're telling me no, it's no. 261 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: I went to junior reading studio before at that age 262 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: and we were in the real outside and no one 263 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: opened the gate, and I told him when we have 264 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: this is why I'm at And it was number one 265 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: on the billboard chat I was like, yeah, I was like, 266 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: you know what, once before I was at the studio. 267 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: I saw you on TV. You told us that you 268 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: have a brand new studio. All new artists are welcoming. 269 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you showed up and you didn't open the gate. 270 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: You like we were in the rain. You know what 271 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: school you would have. But it's all love. Jun is like. 272 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: You were like the person that a lot of people 273 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: also from the United States were tapped to do a 274 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: hot like collaboration because it was like a Foxy Brown. 275 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: You know that wass been lucky that we lucky that 276 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,359 Speaker 2: we whenever we did collaborations with any artist from overseas, 277 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: whether the Wrap, Hip Hop World or R and B World, 278 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: it always did well. 279 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 3: Foxy is like a sister up to the day. I'm 280 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: like that. 281 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm the type of person when I have relationships the 282 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: last long for. 283 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Some reason, Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't be 284 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: hearing no drama about you. You Yeah, you stay out 285 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: with us. I've never heard. 286 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: No, that's it, you know what I mean? 287 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: So inga marsh and she reached out probably ninety nine 288 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: and she came to a concert and ever since then 289 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: we have been like brothers and sisters. She we had 290 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: the idea of doing a record for her. We did 291 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: run them run Them first for a project I think 292 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: it was Broken Silence, and then we came we had 293 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: the idea of Tablestern. 294 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: Yeah that was a yeah, that's a banger right there. 295 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: So we brought the idea of Tablestern to her. She 296 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: loved it and we did it, and that kind of 297 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: opened a different door for me. 298 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: Different door. 299 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: So you think that's what really set off opening up the. 300 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: That set off we had like man and Man, Me 301 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: and them, no growns man. 302 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: Like was on rotation everywhere, but to get inside the 303 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: wholesoul of like hip hop fans. I thought Foxy Browne 304 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: did that for sure. 305 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: And your first album, Wow, the story that was twenty 306 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: five years ago today that that I mean not today 307 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: but to this year that that album came out. You're 308 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: only twenty one years old at that time, but you 309 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: had some heavy hitters on that album already. I got 310 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: to ask, like, how did that happen so early for 311 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: you on your first album. 312 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: I think it was just the good music that we 313 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: were putting out, Like as a new artist. Probably I 314 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: was the hottest thing in Jamaica at the time as 315 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: a kid, you know what I mean, Just everything came 316 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: coming on. It was fire from the Mass gy Ride 317 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: with wind Wander. Yeah, if you a glean, I understand 318 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: bug another level with Bone to Killer, like everything was 319 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: was hit. There wasn't one record that came out that 320 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: wasn't I hit. And everything Father God like the most 321 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: I al might. It just worked it out perfect that 322 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: whoever we we run into, whether it's a concert or 323 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: in a studio somewhere in America, that were cool to 324 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: do a record and everything worked out well, you. 325 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: Know, even that, and that was the first ever double 326 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: CD for a dance or so many songs you were like, 327 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't know to leave off of it. Yo. 328 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: We had like like probably twelve fourteen records that were 329 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: already hits, and at that time I learned that with 330 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: all these singles you need you need like like a 331 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: home for them. And that's when I learned that, okay, 332 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: you need an album to put them somewhere around. So 333 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: we're like, okay, like we already had twelve thirteen records, 334 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: we need CD number two and CD number two. That's 335 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: why it's called well the story said, it's telling you 336 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: the story from the beginning. And then CD number two 337 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: it's called Another level. 338 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like you were very smart from 339 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: a young age. And I know you said that your 340 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: mother didn't know you were doing music, no to the 341 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: level that you were. And the resting peace to her. 342 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: So she recently passed. You know, my condolence is invest 343 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: in piece and I know she had to be so 344 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: proud to see everything her baby sham accomplice. 345 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Mather's life is her sound like? When I look 346 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: back at everything now, I know that Mada's life was 347 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: written for her. 348 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: Yes, and you put that listen, perfect song. And so 349 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: what I wanted to ask you, if you didn't do music, 350 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: what was it that you were planning to do with 351 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: your life? If you had to go to school. 352 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: At first, I wanted to be a pilot because to me, 353 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: I've never seen or heard of anyone from where were 354 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: from being a pilot. But then when I did my research, 355 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: they made good money, they had good retirement plans, they 356 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: had everything. So I was planning for me and my 357 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: mom from day one, you know what I mean. 358 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: So you knew you was gonna make it no matter. 359 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, something was gonna happen, you know what I mean. 360 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: And then I started playing football, which over here you 361 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: call it socker and it was real good at it. 362 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: So I was playing for Jamaica Under twelve, Jamaica Under fourteen, 363 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: Jamaica and a few so that was coming on good. 364 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: And then I got an injury and then the following summer. 365 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Music came wow. 366 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: So it's like Father God was like, you know what, 367 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let you suffer. Straight out of ice School, 368 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: I got my first number one single. That was the 369 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: Mess the Mass Yes Sight out of Ice. 370 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: School and so that was Dave Kelly Kelly. 371 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: When one that was on the chorus, you didn't get 372 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: credit for it on the actual record, but when one 373 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: I was singing the chorus. 374 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: How did you learn the business of music? 375 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: Because that year, that year nineteen ninety five, you know, 376 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: when you get your first EAT record, you have the 377 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: mass Plane, you had Girl from your band. You know 378 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: how all these records playing. So I thought that with 379 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: a big label like Models Records, I'm gonna get a 380 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Christmas present. 381 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: Probably a nice sneakers, you know what I mean. 382 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: And Dave Kelly brought me a book car all you 383 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: need to know about the music business by some passman, 384 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: And that's what I got from a Christmas. Yeah, that's 385 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: what I got from a Christmas present. I wasn't feeling it, 386 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: but then when I started. 387 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: Reading it, wait, hold on, instead of money, you got 388 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: a book. 389 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: I got a book. 390 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: I got a book for no sneak because this picture, kid, kid, 391 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: everything is going good. 392 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: You're hot in the streets. You're looking for like a sneak. 393 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: Because probably a jean suit something, you know what I 394 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: mean that they can show. 395 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: I got a book. I got a book. 396 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: But I learned so much from that book that even 397 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: in list of songs like heading to the Top and 398 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: on my first album, it says people speculating all they 399 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: thought the lottery. No, it's on the music. But I 400 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: did my thing properly. Lyrics contradictory. Sweet was the victory 401 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: That same song hands up a property. This is not monopoly. 402 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: Those are those. 403 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: Books kind of kind of molded and shipped. 404 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I went about the music separate from the music 405 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: business man. 406 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Kelly seems like an amazing mentor No, I just want 407 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: to say that was you fortunately hooked up with the 408 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: right person. 409 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm lucky because I've heard a lot of my 410 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: peers complained about oh my gosh, publishing royalties I've never 411 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: had none of those situations. I never I never did 412 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: a live concert. I know artists lived from their live concert. 413 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: I never did a live concert until two years in 414 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: my career. Wow, nineteen ninety seven. By that time I. 415 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: Had that's crazy, So that's crazy. People would just play 416 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: You remember hearing your song on the radio for the 417 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: first time, because that first. 418 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: Time ninety five, we recorded it and we call those 419 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: cassettes high buyers cassetts, so we could play it in 420 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: you know. You know at the time I didn't have 421 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: a car. We had like cassette players. You know, you 422 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: record the radio shows. You can play it back and 423 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: feel good about yourself, you know what I mean? 424 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Man, I know that was amazing. So how did your 425 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: mom find out? Wow? 426 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: I had? 427 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: I had probably three number one songs before my mom knew. Yeah, 428 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: so no one in my household knew that I was 429 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: a kid. 430 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: That's a secret. 431 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: And the community kept it for me, you know, I mean, 432 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: my mom is a Christian and she wasn't having that, 433 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. She wanted us to go 434 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: to school, even she couldn't afford to send me to 435 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: the university. At the time, she was seefing up so 436 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: she could send me to the university after and I 437 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: started going to the studio and it worked out anyway. 438 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: We had three number one song. They had this this 439 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: this coming out party for Shan Pa and Shan Paul. 440 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: Management reached out to me at the time. The club 441 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: the name of the club or the mirage. It was 442 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: up town and they asked me if we have the 443 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: number one song, if we could come to and proform, 444 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: and to. 445 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: Me it was Anana. I don't know. 446 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: Shann the young art started the same time to just 447 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: coming up, but we had bigger songs. So we went 448 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: there to night profumed. As soon as I got off stage, 449 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: I saw my brother, I knew I was in troubling. 450 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: My brother came, he was like, you are manby Sean. 451 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: I see it in the paper all the time, and 452 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 453 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: And that's when my mom found out and she said 454 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: she had to have a talk with Dave. He came 455 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: over to to the Oh it's probably two days after 456 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: she met Dave and realized that Dave Kell's a good person. 457 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: Realized that I'm in good company, and I mean, because 458 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: you have so many things that they talk about the 459 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: industry that when these kids go to the studio and 460 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: they give them his weed and jugs and girls and 461 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: all of these things. And she realized that now these 462 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: people are about music, they have fun, They're going to 463 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: make sure that they take care of your son. 464 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: And from there she was just gave me all the support. 465 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: Man, if they would have been social media, you would 466 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: have never got away with that from whatever you ever. 467 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have a No one knew what I 468 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: looked like until probably ninety eight. 469 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. 470 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: And we had eight songs from ninety five and no 471 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: one knew what I looked like. No videos, no ninety seven, 472 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: my bad. So my first concert was ninety seven. So 473 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: you had all these eat records. You weren't doing no 474 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: past shoes, no shows. So the industry started saying I 475 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: was a studio artist, perform live, and performed live, can't 476 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: replicate the song's life and. 477 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Still because you had that deep yes always. 478 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: So that picture that concert, you had probably five thousand 479 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: fans and probably all the record industry, music industry here 480 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: just to see if it's real. But I've been a 481 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: profimer from the one like I was begging to profile. 482 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: They did. It was Dave Kelly's plan and models planned. 483 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: They wanted it like that. 484 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: They wanted you to have at least a nice twenty 485 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: five to thirty minute catalog in terms of set before 486 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: you do a concert, and it worked out well. 487 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: Were you impatient? 488 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: I was impatient? 489 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was impatient, but I wasn't needing probably if 490 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: I was needing for anything, because the records were coming 491 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: out so so big. I was doing a lot of 492 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: dublates in Jamaica. Double its is like when we do 493 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: a special with with Angela's naming it, you know what 494 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: I mean. 495 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: This Angela story, Angela E story like that. 496 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we're not going to use that either. 497 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: It's all right. 498 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: I was super not a noising so. 499 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: All the sound systems you so every single released, I 500 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: would do like a lot of up plays. So I 501 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: wasn't needing for no money. I was financially okay at 502 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: the time. 503 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: It's crazy how even now, like things just don't work 504 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: like that anymore at all. Like people are not doing that. 505 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: Artists aren't doing that. They're not putting that type of 506 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: ground where I don't think. 507 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: I think the one is trusting that type of process 508 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 3: that it were either you. 509 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: Do it on AI anyway, Play Baby Shit listen. And 510 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: so I want to talk about just how when it 511 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: was the I think it was the twentieth anniversary of 512 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: while the story, you started doing these like going track 513 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: by track and breaking down what it is like the 514 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: making of it. That was amazing to hear some of 515 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: those stories. 516 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: Because those are like iconic stories like for instance, Gyride. 517 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Oh man, I could picture Gyride. 518 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: Gyride is one of my favorite records, and Gyride at 519 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: the time, I think Gyride Compilation was probably first compilation 520 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: album out of Jamaica that so goal like real goal 521 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: like five toes. So gy Ride was done Dave Kelly. 522 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: And when when one that came to pick me up 523 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 2: to go to a beach party, famous beach party in Jamaica. Yeah, 524 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: it was called but the beach was the Frenchman cove, 525 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And when they came to 526 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: pick me up, I was in like plaid shirt. Well 527 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: span up when we call Spain in Jamaica. We bought 528 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: the first button on the shirt and fly Adam white, 529 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: Marina mesh, Marina brown jeans, vans, brown and black Bally 530 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: not No Not Beach a tire so bali at the time. 531 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: Was was the the shoes that was the hottest roadboy 532 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: shoes in Jamaica, either Bally Travel Fox you know what 533 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, So they came to pick me up 534 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: and they had done slides like sandals and shots and 535 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: just regular times. 536 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: Where are you going? 537 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: But to where we are from? When you like that 538 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: is is youyard dress? You don't just like that going 539 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: oh do you know what I mean? And they were like, no, 540 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: this is a beach part. I'm like, Nope, I'm not 541 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: going to just like that. This is a wee dressed. 542 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: When I went on the beach party, I was stopped out. 543 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: Everyone started looking at me like crazy. Had to take 544 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: off the plaid shirt, tie the prat shirt around my wist, 545 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: took off the balley, roll up my jeans fans and 546 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: just kept it casual and beach like. 547 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 548 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: You said that was the first song that you did not. 549 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: I was written Dave Kelly had the beach Plane. 550 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: We were driving all the way from Kingston to Portland, 551 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: w when that was freestyling taking. 552 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: A ride a ride a ride and. 553 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm just freestyling cruising a round with a jeep full 554 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: on his You're gonna want to win to Juice to mommies. 555 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: And if you're really listening into juice a Mia, it's 556 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: not a word, it's more introduce me, introduce me. Yeah, 557 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: but because you're freestyling, you're trying to fill the gap, 558 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Into juice a to your mommies. 559 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: Someone come over with my luggage boom. The minute day 560 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 2: of Keller released it, it went straight to number one. 561 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: So listen, that's not today still. 562 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: That's one of my biggest songs in my catalog, even 563 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: today when we performed live. That's probably you have a 564 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: segment in mindset that we go to nineties music when 565 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: gy Ride drops crazy, everything goes crazy. 566 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: And I feel that in Ghetto Story, right, I would 567 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: say Ghetto Story was which which one you would you 568 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: say is bigger? 569 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: Get a Story? 570 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? That's Alica Key And you know I was also 571 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you this question, but Ghetto Story 572 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: Alicia Keys got on that. 573 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, A Kon did his. 574 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: I want to ask you even how that happened. But 575 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: before I do that, if you were going to do 576 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: a Ghetto Story twenty twenty five, who would you like 577 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: to hear on that telling their story okay. 578 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: Me personally, Yeah, who. 579 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: Would you personally be? Like, I would love to hear this. 580 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: I would love to hear Eminem's story on a ghetto 581 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: story because I knew it's back growing idea of his 582 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: background and oh he came up, you know what I mean. 583 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 2: I would love to hear I would love to hear 584 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: nas you know what I mean, coming through where he 585 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: is now? 586 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. 587 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: And as far as new school, i'd probably put Vibes 588 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: Cartel on it, just the year his story coming. 589 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: Through, you know, and he came all the way through. 590 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I'd have to 591 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: think about more. But those are the people that when 592 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: when you think about lyrically, where they're at and where they're. 593 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Coming from and the story they have to tell you 594 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: they have to tell The real great thing about get 595 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: a story is we get to see it after you 596 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: came through it, to see where you are. But here's 597 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: where I started, yes, you know, and I feel like 598 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: it's so descriptive. That's what people love about it. Even here. 599 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: I never heard Alicia Keys do nothing like that, you 600 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: know before, Like that was very unique, never for her 601 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: as well. 602 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: And I think that's why it's so unique, even though 603 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: in her life show, like when we go with Alisha 604 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: on the road and do it in her life show, 605 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: it feels so fresh because. 606 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: In White Rice and Honey, I was like, that sounds good. 607 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. That's that's a big vibe. 608 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: And that's why it's so different. There's nothing in her 609 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: set like that ever, and she has never done nothing 610 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: like that after right, and that's good Forget a Story. 611 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an Acon too. 612 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: We recorded Acon and Vitamins Beat, so no one knew 613 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: Acon at the time, so we had a song on 614 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: on Vitamins Beat from like two thousand and three with 615 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: Acon that's before lacktop all of that. I think it's 616 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: called Gunshot. So that was my brother from before anything 617 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: started popping off, you know what I mean for him. 618 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: And as soon as Get a Story hit, I reached 619 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: out to him. I say, oh, needia an it and 620 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: it was like nothing flew in boom knocked it out. 621 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: And then probably two weeks after we got Alisha, I'm like, oh, 622 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: this is perfect. 623 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that was you know, something so unexpected. How 624 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: did that even happen? Did you all reach out to 625 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: her or did she you say, like, how does something 626 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: like that? 627 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: Behind the scenes, someone reached out to her, and then 628 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: she reached out back and said it would be cool 629 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: because she has a story to tell. I didn't even 630 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: know that she's from Health's Kitchen. I thought that she 631 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: was a nice suburbian nice. 632 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Yeah, really didn't even know that. 633 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: So when she told her story, I think the world 634 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: kind of realized that, Okay, she's coming from somewhere deeper 635 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: than we that, you. 636 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 637 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And people wouldn't know your story either, because you know, respectfully, 638 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: you're the ladies man. 639 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 640 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: And even when you were coming up in this, it was. 641 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: Like baby, yeah, clean cut. 642 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: You do seem like you could have came up in 643 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: that same way too. 644 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. And you have to get back to my mom. 645 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: My mom, my mom. 646 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: Even though grew up in the gears South Jamaica without 647 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: my dad around, my mom kind of guided us. 648 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 3: And you know what I mean. 649 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: We have to get a five am every morning before school, 650 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: and each one of us had to read a Bible 651 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: scripture every month. Wow, you know what I mean, Monding, 652 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: So that even made me more comfortable. I get it 653 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: up in front of class and reading something from a 654 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: literature book, you know what I mean. And I got 655 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: into literature that way, and that's all the writing came about. 656 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And then look and then putting out a 657 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: song like vitamin s Yeah, things like that. 658 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 2: Good vitamin and the craziest thing about vitamins. We are 659 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: Me and Dave Kelly kind of word o a vitamins. 660 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: He wanted me to give Being a Man vitamins. So 661 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: he wanted me to do Dude because Foxy the world 662 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: didn't notice, but Foxy had done a demo for Dude. 663 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: So it was Foxy Brown that was I want to 664 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: do it with the Wiki days. She was singing the 665 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: hook and we were going to use this as tables 666 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: turned follow up and I did the verses as a 667 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: demo and then I found vitamins. Being a Man came 668 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: to record now and Dave was like, Yo, we should 669 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: give Be. 670 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: The Man vitamins and I'm like no. When I found vitamins, 671 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: I knew it was special. 672 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't care what Dude Soul Do is going to do. 673 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, give me the dude. We're 674 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: gonna give him dude, and I'm going to do vitamins. 675 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm not giving away this one, you know what I mean. 676 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: And Inga was vexed with me for like Inga was 677 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: not talking to me for like three four months after 678 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: that because the dude came. 679 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: That was a huge Yes, she heard it. 680 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: I knew that it wasn't her vocal and it anymore. 681 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: And Inga was upset for like four months. 682 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: But you don't want to either, you know. 683 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: What I mean. And it worked out well. I needed vitamins. 684 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: Do this, dude, you will never ever forget vitamins. 685 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Just if you use vitamins now, you can use it 686 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: in a conversation around kids and they wouldn't even understand what. 687 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: You're talking about. 688 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: I went to the doctor, I. 689 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: Need some m Yes, shims are sensions stress. 690 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 3: Somebody give r some Can you hear me? 691 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: X And then listen. The other thing that you did, 692 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: and this was more recently, you did a collaboration project 693 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: with Bounty Killer. Yes, that was amazing too. I want 694 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: to say, even just watching you like, I felt like 695 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: that was energizing for you as well. 696 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: It was one of the most beautiful thing to me. 697 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: Killa is like a brother. 698 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: Sound good together always. 699 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: The first time we did was another level, so we 700 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: knew the chemistry was there and we always perform in 701 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: concert together. The chemistry is naturally there. Out of the pandemic, 702 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: myself and Dave Kelly decided that instead of just jumping 703 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: a single single project, let's do something with Rodney and 704 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: when any Rodney Price aka Bounty Killer, and we we 705 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: flew him to the Bambas at the time because he 706 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 2: didn't have visa to come into the States and we 707 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: had a We had a place right under water front 708 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: of the Bambas. We were there for one month. It's 709 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: the first time Killer ever leave Jommika for one month. 710 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: One month we're there cooking every day. There's vibe in 711 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: making music and that's all we worked on the project. 712 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: When his first visa came to was the England visa. 713 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: We all were praying that it would come to so 714 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: we could go to England to do the promo. It 715 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: came to on time, just as the album, just as 716 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: the EP drop time Bomb. 717 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: We went to England. 718 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: Everyone was so happy to see Killer, who went back 719 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: to England ten months after solowed the Wembley Arena almost 720 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: eighteen to people and ever since then all the kids 721 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: have been flying for killer. 722 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: So it's a good look. 723 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it is not a game right now, I 724 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: think for a dance on and reggae. Just seeing how 725 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: it's been proving how these shows can sell out. You know, 726 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: these brands need to get behind these artists the way 727 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: that they have been, and you've been consistent. I feel 728 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: like throughout just you know, with this music and now 729 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: with this project that you have, and you gave us 730 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: all what we needed. You know, even on a sound 731 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: like mister Ductress, you know I still be liking yeah. 732 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Yeah, to me, I wanted this project to 733 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: have something for all the fame, all of fame, more 734 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: lovely of showing the society, you know what I mean. 735 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: Mister Doctors is more club vibe, you know. 736 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: What I mean. 737 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: So I think this project have something for everyone. And 738 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: that's all I wanted it and it worked out perfect 739 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: for me. And even when we decided to release it, 740 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: we decided, okay, we're gonna come July. Demon Mally and 741 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: Steve Maley was going on tour Traffic Jamp tour. Normally, 742 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: before they go on tour, they will release a single 743 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: that they would use as the pivot song for the tour. 744 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: When we did hustling in my Blood. They called me 745 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: up and say, you know what, We're not even gonna 746 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: drop no single. This is our single for the tour. 747 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: So whatever you doing, you have to be on tour 748 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: with us, and to be on Torol with them promoting 749 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: the same night every night, every single night, we had 750 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: us promoting that song, performing it all chree of us together. 751 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: I've done a big record with my self Bounty Kill 752 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: and Dexads Slow Motion two years ago that we have 753 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: never performed that sung five times together, because you know 754 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: it goes artists. Everyone have their own thing to fulfilled. 755 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: They have their own applic shuns everything, you know what 756 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: I mean. And to be on the road myself and 757 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: Demon and Steve every night seven toes and nine toes 758 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: and ten toes and fifteen toes of people, I think 759 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: it's worth perfect for my project this time around. 760 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: And listen, you can ask for a better rollout. 761 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't. Like It's one of them things 762 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: that you have to just neil and say thank you Lord. 763 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because you know that it's 764 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: a higher divine purpose than what you are really really about. 765 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: It's not just about you it's someone else's guiding this. 766 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the blessings are continuing to come in. And one 767 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: thing I would say is even in the midst of 768 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: like I feel like in you know, Dancer, there was 769 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: always all these different like divisions and this person, but 770 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: it felt like you managed to avoid all of those 771 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: problems and be cool with everybody. 772 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 2: That's the main thing. The main thing is like I think, 773 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like a bridge. That's why I look 774 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: at myself, and I started looking at that since I 775 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: started reading and reading more about like being a collaborator. 776 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: You have some people that can't collaborate. I have some 777 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: people that are real collaborators. And recently aerd Farrell said 778 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: on an interview, he said that a collaborator knows when 779 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: to step back, you know what I mean. So even 780 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: when I'm on the road, I was doing concerts with Killer, 781 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: I allow Killer to take you, take the front the 782 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 2: front road, do what you do, and I don't feel 783 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: any less either, because I know what I bring to the. 784 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: Table, you know what I mean. 785 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when it's my time to do my 786 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: own concerts, it's a different beast, just the same. But 787 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: you have to us learn how to share the spotlight 788 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean yes vers Yeah, man, that's it 789 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, that's it for me. 790 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting seeing these conversations around vibes cartel 791 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: and how much is getting paid too, and that all 792 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: happened because of the drama with the promoter and all 793 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: of that, and so it also made other people feel like, 794 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: well I should be getting you know, and I saw 795 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: that like all over social media, what have. 796 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 3: You been doing? 797 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: Has been locked up for thirteen years, so you can't 798 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: compare them, you know what I mean? And who say 799 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: they're trying to say they should be getting the same amoune, 800 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 2: then you work and get the same amounde. 801 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 3: It's been locked up for thirteen years. 802 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: No one signed proforming, not even not clip, not even 803 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 2: a photo. You barely sign the photo of him in prison. 804 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: So now when he comes out, you have an all 805 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: catalog that people has never ever seen him profound, So 806 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: you deserve every penny that he's getting. 807 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the positive thing is to see 808 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: everybody's quashing beef to help the whole culture. 809 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: The whole genre. When he wins, when I win, when 810 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: Sean Paul win, when Bounty Killer win, when being the win, 811 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: when Spice Wind, when chancey Are win, when Jaeda win, 812 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: all of us win. You know what I mean, all 813 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 3: of us win, all genre wins. That's it. 814 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like that is a perfect way for 815 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: us to say thank you so much, baby Sham. And 816 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: you know the Sherlock Project is out right now, so 817 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: make sure you're I guess the people buy strng it. 818 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 3: Stream it and buy it at the same time. 819 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: And also you do have some dates coming up, so 820 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we all know that because 821 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: you are going to be in Brooklyn. 822 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 2: Brooklyn, I hope you can make the show Corney Island 823 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: with the legend Barry Salmon and the legend Mastery Griffiths. 824 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: For me, that's an anna. So it's New Jersey, it's 825 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: a n J park, which it was the Performance Art 826 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: Center in New Jersey. 827 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: And nowhere and in New York and the Corney Island 828 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. 829 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: And then you're also going to Toronto. You're going to 830 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: Riviera Bees, Florida, and then welcome to deer Mark Cruise. 831 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, please. 832 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a wild time fire fire. 833 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 3: The Toronto concert is special. 834 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: It's Bounty Killer's first time performing in Tronto in like 835 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: probably twenty years. First time and it's the first time 836 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: anywhere in North America is seeing myself Bounty Killer and 837 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 2: Decks Adapts performing slow motion together. 838 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: That is for Sarah. 839 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: We need to be in Toronto, butppatiently there's angela day. 840 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: So we'll send you a video. 841 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: Please. Let's I'm gonna be I'm gonna be looking online 842 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: and whatever it is I reposted, but again, thank you 843 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate it. Before we even started, I 844 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: showed you this the throwback picture of us. 845 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: We should, we should. I let them see that Welcome 846 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,959 Speaker 3: from d one is not just. 847 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: No super clean, super clean, right ladies, man, babes. 848 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 3: Angelie and it's Babysham that's me. Can you hear me? Good?