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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it alive on a Monday edition,

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Speaker 2: merely Bo the Great Z. A dastardly deed occurred on

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Speaker 2: Saturday night. I'm shocked you're here. I think it speaks

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Speaker 2: to your toughness that you're here. This was it was

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Speaker 2: a sneak attack. It was something no one saw coming.

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Speaker 2: And the evidence of pain and betrayal is all over

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Speaker 2: your face and your neck.

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Speaker 3: Sir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, make sure just take care of yourself. We got

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Speaker 2: a football season upcoming.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, what doesn't kill you

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Speaker 4: makes you stronger. And so I went to AIW shook

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Speaker 4: ones and I was going to call out members only.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just be careful, take care of yourself.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I did. I went out there.

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Speaker 4: I called out members only because they had perpetrated a

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Speaker 4: nefarious act against me, and so I went there to

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Speaker 4: call them out and I did that. I called them out,

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Speaker 4: and they've been running their mouths, and so I invited them.

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Speaker 4: I invited them to come out, and I said, look,

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Speaker 4: if you guys want to each have your turn, you

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Speaker 4: want to fight me one on one, fair, I'm game.

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Speaker 4: A little back and forth, I made the offer again

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Speaker 4: and they said, you know, we don't fight fair, and

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Speaker 4: immediately both of them grab chairs and hopped in the ring.

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Speaker 4: So I hopped out of the ring. And the truth is,

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Speaker 4: I am a forty five year old man. I am

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Speaker 4: a father, I am a husband, I am a friend,

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Speaker 4: I am a commentator for the Cleveland Browns, I'm an announcer.

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Speaker 4: I am not a professional wrestler. And so yes, and

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Speaker 4: getting to go into the gauntlet, did I get to

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Speaker 4: live out a part of a childhood dream?

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Speaker 3: Of course? Did members only dash that dream?

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Speaker 4: Yes they did, But my intention was not necessarily to

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Speaker 4: take it to say, look, if you guys want to

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Speaker 4: end this once and for all, one on one, let's

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: If not, the reality is I'm not a professional wrestler.

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Speaker 4: For you guys can go to get chairs.

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Speaker 3: All of this. I'm going to get out of the ring.

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Speaker 4: I had a couple buddies, Joshua Bishop and Filthy Tom Lawler,

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Speaker 4: and I said, I'm not a wrestler.

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Speaker 3: They are, they'll come fight you.

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Speaker 4: And out they came, and this wild brawl ensues, and

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Speaker 4: then out of nowhere, Jared's music hits. The Jeff Jarrett,

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Speaker 4: the two time Hall of Famer, the twelve time world champion,

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Speaker 4: the legend, the last outlaw. Jeff Jarrett, his music hits,

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Speaker 4: but he doesn't come out. It's his wife, Karen Jarrett.

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Speaker 4: She comes out carrying his guitar.

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Speaker 3: That distracts Bishop and Lawler.

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Speaker 4: They get rolled up by Members Only who get a

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Speaker 4: cheap one, two three, they get the win. So now

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Speaker 4: I come in the ring and we're like, what is

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Speaker 4: going on? What are you doing here? Why are you here?

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Speaker 4: She says, you know, Jeff had a history with Members Only.

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Speaker 4: Apparently they had aligned themselves years before. Unbeknownst to me,

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Speaker 4: he's not here. He sent me to deliver this message

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Speaker 4: to you, basically. And so I'm there talking. She's talking

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Speaker 4: from the stage. I'm in the ring. Members Is Only.

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Speaker 4: He's out there with her. The next thing I know,

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Speaker 4: I hear wham wham. I turn around. Jeff Jarrett is

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Speaker 4: in the ring with a chair. He has knocked out

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Speaker 4: Bishop he's knocked.

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Speaker 3: Out, lawlor.

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Speaker 4: I turn around like what's going on? Boom chair to

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Speaker 4: with his finishing move, the stroke, which.

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Speaker 3: Just about knocked me out.

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Speaker 4: The next thing I remember is that I'm being lifted

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Speaker 4: in the air by members only who were holding me

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Speaker 4: with my arms out like this, and I remember seeing

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Speaker 4: Jeff Jarrett wind up and absolutely destroy a guitar over

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Speaker 4: my head. It's resulted in multiple cuts. I have band

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Speaker 4: aids everywhere. I don't know if I was concussed. I

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Speaker 4: just came from my doctors. They're still evaluating my status

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Speaker 4: right now. My neck is jacked. As you could see.

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Speaker 4: I'm this is not comfortable by the way. I can't

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Speaker 2: You have the whole body.

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Speaker 3: And Jeff Jared hit me with a guitar and it hurt.

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Speaker 3: Well a great deal. I've never talked to Jeff Jarrett before.

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Speaker 4: I never just members, only those conniving they I guess

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Speaker 4: they went way deep in their roll decks and called

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Speaker 4: in the biggest favor that members only could possibly ever

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Speaker 4: call in to get a Hall of Famer. A twelve

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Speaker 4: time world champion, Jeff Jared to come out on their

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Speaker 4: behalf and smoke me. Yeah, you've seen the pictures. You've

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Speaker 4: seen the images, here the video, give me do we

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Speaker 4: have the sound. We're still working on uploading it because

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Speaker 4: a cloud crashed right on here. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 4: get you that sound, so you guys can hear what

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Speaker 4: I went through. But right, I just one one last thing, Yep,

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Speaker 4: hard Way Holloway. I owe him a great thank you.

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Speaker 4: He came out and ran them off. And there will

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Speaker 4: be another chapter and we can get We'll get to

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Speaker 4: that when you're ready.

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Speaker 3: But you have something to say, go ahead, Well.

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Speaker 2: I just you know you are a voice of the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Your vocal cords are a critical part of

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Speaker 2: this operation. You're here with me every day and of

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Speaker 2: course on on on Sundays with the voice. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean there has to be a great deal level of

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Speaker 2: concern here in the building for your vocal cords, for

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Speaker 2: your health. I had great pause when you because you

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Speaker 2: had said you were going to answer them, and I

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Speaker 2: was concerned. But then realize that these members only guys.

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Speaker 2: There's only so much they can do you versus them.

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Speaker 2: All you want was a fair fight in this thing.

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Speaker 2: That's all I want is a fair fight. Give me

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Speaker 2: a fair fight, and it's escalated in a nature that

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Speaker 2: I am concerned that this has gone too far. And

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Speaker 2: looking at you here now, I am concerned about your

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Speaker 2: health going forward, and I know your spirit animals as well.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but here's the deal, man, here's the deal. I'm

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Speaker 4: not a pro wrestler, no okay, but I am a man,

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Speaker 4: Bo Bishop that I am a man, Jeff Jarrett, and

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Speaker 4: you're gonna come here, oh boy, to Cleveland, Ohio, and

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Speaker 4: attack me and assault me like that. Well, that's why

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Speaker 4: I had to make a challenge. And I have challenged you,

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Speaker 4: Jeff Jarrett. I have challenged you members only to a

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Speaker 4: Muni lot brawl at AIW Absolution seventeen. Me the three

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Speaker 4: time AIW champ, Josh Bishop, the former AIW champ, Filthy

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Speaker 4: Tom Lawler, an ultimate fighter.

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Speaker 3: Go look up his one punch knockout.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully we see that on July the thirteenth, and Hardway Holloway,

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Speaker 4: a future AIW champ. They've got my back, And now

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Speaker 4: here's the deal. Bo, Here's where it gets interesting. It'd

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Speaker 4: be enough to take on Jeff Jarrett and members only.

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Speaker 4: But Jeff Jarrett and perhaps what I consider to be

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Speaker 4: a sign of respect is bringing back up in the

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Speaker 4: form of a seven foot four, four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: pound giant named Sttenham Sing. And so it will be

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Speaker 4: at aiw absolution Jeff Jarrett, Stottenham Sing and members only

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Speaker 4: against us. And I don't know what's gonna happen for me.

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you. I'm out of my element. Brother,

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Speaker 4: I'm not well, but I've got three weeks to get well.

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Speaker 4: And Jeff Jarrett marked my words. You've made this personal

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Speaker 4: and you're gonna feel what I felt. It shook ones

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 2: As your friend and as your colleague, I have a

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Speaker 2: great deal of concern. I can't put the choices you're

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Speaker 2: making right now. He cross the line.

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Speaker 4: Bug, What would you do if in front of your family,

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Speaker 4: if somebody came attack you and laid you out?

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna just go run away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I probably go play some Xbox Quite honestly, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I challenge a twelve time old champ

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Speaker 2: and now he's got you got a seven four giant

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Speaker 2: coming in. That's right, I'm gonna get the franchise around here.

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Speaker 3: I'm nervous about that part.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not in the brochure.

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Speaker 3: Coach, this was not in the brochs You're supposed to

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Speaker 3: be you remembers.

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Speaker 2: Only now you got a twelve time CHAMPI you got

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Speaker 2: a seven four giant. Like you know, at some point

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Speaker 2: I think maybe you have to reconsider and think about

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Speaker 2: what's best for you and your family and the future

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Speaker 2: of this organization and this show.

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Speaker 3: Oh now you're concerned about the future of this show.

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Speaker 2: Well you're the franchise. I'm concerned for you. Mostly.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Look at me, touch me, am I here?

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Speaker 3: Am I real?

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Speaker 2: In my alive?

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Speaker 4: I am alive? And so you took your best shot

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Speaker 4: at me. Jeff Jarrett had my hands held back. Well

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Speaker 4: you hit me with a guitar, and guess what, I'm

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Speaker 4: still standing. I'm not one hundred percent, not even close.

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Speaker 4: But I don't need to be today. I need to

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Speaker 4: be one hundred percent. July thirteenth, seven thirty pm, Masonic

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Speaker 4: Temple Live, and I need everybody in Cleveland. I need

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Speaker 4: You know what makes Cleveland brown Stadium so special.

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Speaker 2: It's you.

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Speaker 4: It's the dog Pound. That's why the Browns won eight

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Speaker 4: games at home last year, a franchise record. Because when

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Speaker 4: you come into that hostile environment, there's something. It booies

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Speaker 4: the spirits of the Cleveland Browns. It lowers the intensity,

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Speaker 4: it scares your opposition. And I'm gonna need all the

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Speaker 4: to give me that energy, to give me that home

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Speaker 4: field advantage, because it's an up. I'm the underdog. I'm

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Speaker 4: the underdog by a lot, and you know what, I

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Speaker 4: don't care because when we're together, Cleveland, we could do

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Speaker 4: great things. So I need you because I need to

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Speaker 4: beat Jeff Jarrett.

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Speaker 2: I love you, I respect Youned. I understand your passion

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Speaker 2: for this.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, too, excited.

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Speaker 2: I know we got to get a break here. In

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Speaker 2: a second. I'm hoping that you will reconsider, but I

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Speaker 2: understand that pride is on the line here, that this

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Speaker 2: is a sastardly deed, and and it is something that

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Speaker 2: needs to be answered for. But I cannot sit here

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Speaker 2: idly by and act like I'm not concerned for your

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Speaker 2: well being going forward. This is a twelve time world champion.

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Speaker 2: It's a giant. It's the odds are not great, my friend,

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Speaker 2: they are not great. But I got you, I got

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Speaker 2: your back. I'll support you.

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Speaker 4: Or the eye a great? Were the odds great? When

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Speaker 4: couch late in the season to make an improbable run,

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Speaker 4: and guess what, Flacco fever swept a nation. The miracle happened.

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Speaker 4: There's one more miracle here in Cleveland. There you go,

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Speaker 4: and you're going to get it at AIW Absolution seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Jarrett, you have no idea what you've done. I'm

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Speaker 4: not scared what I've taken your best. I've taken a stroke. Well,

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Speaker 4: he's got a giant taking the guitar. He'd have a giant.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: I got Josh Bishop, and I got Filthy Lawler, I

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 4: If Sattenham sing tags into the match when I'm in

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Speaker 4: And that doesn't make me any less of a man.

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Speaker 2: Smart, smart, private school. All right, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your concern.

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Speaker 2: Oh you need to relive that. I think that's playing again.

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Speaker 2: Listen to cackle.

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Speaker 3: That's my head, Gibbe.

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Speaker 5: And you want to follow it up by getting back

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Speaker 3: Gibbee.

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Speaker 4: I know you pretty darn well after over a decade

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Speaker 4: never backed down. I know you were a man who

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Speaker 4: in many cases you were the enforcer. You were the

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Speaker 4: bill lame beer. Would you run away? No, I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to look. I'm forty five. I'm confronting.

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Speaker 5: I might run away in this cencinus run. I am confrontless.

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Speaker 5: There are professionals in that ring. I'm not one of them.

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Speaker 2: I am not a professional.

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Speaker 3: Easy, easy, easy, you do it.

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Speaker 5: You listen to me, give me you came when you

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Speaker 4: This is my last opportunity. This is my last opportunity

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Speaker 2: In the ring.

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Speaker 5: Man we did that quote.

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Speaker 4: I am a man in my forties. You could get

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Speaker 4: that quote because I said it. I'm not a professional vestler,

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Speaker 2: a lot. There's a lot going on here locally. In addition,

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Speaker 2: to that, we have the Cleveland Cavaliers a pired a

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Speaker 2: new coach. Kenny Atkinson is your new head coach of

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you know, you're coming from what has

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Speaker 4: I remember people thought maybe he should have gotten hired

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's and by the way, the Guardos are

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Speaker 2: American League? Pretty sure I believe you have. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So now it's a little bit like if you've seen

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Speaker 2: little bit. That's a little bit of that. It's what

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Speaker 2: out and played on Friday afternoon. I said, we get

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Speaker 2: time for nine, we can play nine. So we went

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Speaker 3: I don't think you have to count this as an

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Speaker 2: There's been some consternation about that.

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Speaker 3: Here golf is an eighteen hole match.

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Speaker 2: Here's here would be the I think the pushback. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I still have that out there. I still have the

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Speaker 2: went into it going knowing that we're only playing nine holes.

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Speaker 2: It was not a situation where I said, for example,

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Speaker 2: There was none of that. There was none of that.

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Speaker 3: So we're it's like it's like instead of it's like.

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Speaker 2: I think of it this way, like playing to eleven

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Speaker 5: One exactly is one half a game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was that's kind of was a quick

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Speaker 4: He's out, given how you feel about the state of

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Speaker 4: an excellent athlete, but you're not all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: No, no, he is not only going to continue.

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Speaker 2: To get back. That's correct. So that this was gonna happen,

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's the what's our putt policy? Close ball in

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Speaker 3: No, no, they had to go serious. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we're cruising along and really not paying too much

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Speaker 5: Is that the first moment where you're like, well, if

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Speaker 2: So next sole we play. We go to fourteen and

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Speaker 2: I borrow you're five iron? I said, yeah, we're like

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Speaker 2: that's an unbelievable iron shot, Like that's fantastic out of

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Dixon's like, just use your eight iron and

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Speaker 5: Six ' three, I'd have made him do a shot. Now,

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Speaker 5: I don't care how old, I'm going to get you

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Speaker 2: So I went from up one to down two in

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Speaker 2: I make par, he makes Let's see, yeah, fifteen, I

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Speaker 2: make par. He makes bogie back to even three holes

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I know that if my length can help

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Speaker 2: So I hit Driver. I get ahold of it good.

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Speaker 3: He's going par birdie par on you for over three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no bogey. He had a bogey on the one

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Speaker 2: in the fair way as he naturally is go ahead.

436
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 4: Are you using the one advantage that you have, which

437
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 4: would be psychological?

438
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: Are you talking to him? Are you building up the

439
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: moment I had?

440
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: I had several I had. I'm not being cheap, but

441
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: there were several subtle like I had people say like

442
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: compliment amount how far he's hitting it, compliment say, boy,

443
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: these greens are really rolling fast today, that type of stuff.

444
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: He was largely unflappable. I got to give him credit.

445
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 5: He really was.

446
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: He was impervious to it.

447
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: So you're down to.

448
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: Eighteen's of par five, so I should be able to

449
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 2: be in the vicinity of But I know I'm not

450
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: doing better than pars. I need him to blow up

451
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: te he's uh so we have five sets of teas.

452
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm playing the third from the front. He's playing the

453
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 2: second from the front. So it's a little bit not much,

454
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: though largely pretty similar because again I suck. So my

455
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: first shot on seventeen it's a big left dog leg

456
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: and almost like a boomerang hole and I blow through

457
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 2: the fairway. I hit it perfect, but I hit it

458
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 2: too much club and I hit it through the fairway

459
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: and I'm liking the junk and he's in the fairway

460
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: and I go, all right, there's a way where like

461
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: if you can picture a tree here, water here, green here,

462
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: but I'm so far that I can actually kind of

463
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: go across and get the green. So I'm standing over

464
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: this thing. I'm like, I'm Vandeveld, What am I doing here?

465
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: Like there's no way I can do this? And he

466
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: looks at me and he goes, He goes, Dad, what

467
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: are you doing? And I'm like, well, the only way

468
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: that I can do that I have to make par

469
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: minimum because he's not going to do it to give

470
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: my if I go into the middle and then I'm

471
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: making bogie at best part. Well, and I got it

472
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: and it went up and it went to the right

473
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: behind the green, like I made it through it all.

474
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: I got through. I'm through there. The kid's second shot,

475
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: he puts it on the green, so he two puts

476
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: for par He takes a four. I bogie five. I'm

477
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: down three with eighteen to play. It's done. It's cooked.

478
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: So we're standing over eighteen and he can kind of

479
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: he knows he's because he's keeping track, like he's adding

480
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: it and he's like you, like he knows what I got,

481
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: what he got. He's counting it sure, and I'm trying.

482
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, god, he's really crushed that driver. Dude just

483
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: keeps smoking that thing. It's unbelievable. I mean, it's what.

484
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 2: It's really remarkable. He gets up there and he just

485
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: pipes it right down the middle. I hear you, I

486
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: agree with you. I went so, I go, I went,

487
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: I went par he got a par. So when it's done,

488
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: so he wins by three. Now to be he shot

489
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: forty one.

490
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: That's legit.

491
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: So like I I can't. I can't shoot forty one.

492
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: I can't. There's nothing i can do. I'm not that good.

493
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: Is that his best ever?

494
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: And yeah? Probably in the vicinity. Yeah, I mean he

495
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: had three, he had two birdies, three pars, like, yeah,

496
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: it was crazy. So I was curious, like and the

497
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: whole time, I just I thought of Zago. I'm like,

498
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: I'm I'm he deserves the moment, like I'm not gonna

499
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: as long as he's not a punk. But I didn't

500
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: know how he would behave it. So I make my

501
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: par putt. He makes his par putt and it's over

502
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: at that point, and he it's pretty crazy. He takes

503
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: off his hat and he's got like a little bit

504
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: of a smile on his face, but at the same time,

505
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: very earnest. He takes off his hat, he puts out

506
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: his hand and he goes, great match, dad, thank you,

507
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: And I went, come on. So I just talked to

508
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: him and I'm like, it's gonna be much more of

509
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: this to come, is how it's going to go. But

510
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: he just he shook my hand and then I'm like, well, dude,

511
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: you got to celebrate some like you've been waiting for

512
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: this for a long time. So then I took the

513
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: picture of him like with his hands looking back on eighteen.

514
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: But like he was very it was a lot of

515
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: class like it was There's not much I could do.

516
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm not that good, and I'm never gonna be no.

517
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: Now, you need to defend the basketball court.

518
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: So I did. Me and Bootsy whipped their ass. On Sunday.

519
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 2: You played ports series. I just kept whipping them. We

520
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: won every we wanted. They beat us. We played ten games,

521
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: they won three, We won seven. So that was that's

522
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: the way that that went. And then Bootsy and I

523
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: played them last night and we whipped them. We went

524
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: out late last night and played him and we whipped

525
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: him there. But like, there's gonna be much more of

526
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: that for him.

527
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: Golf, You're gonna just have to I'm gonna have to

528
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: take the chat.

529
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: I enjoy the hell out of it. The kids love it,

530
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: which leads to me to number four on our list

531
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: of around the sports world. I found myself watching the

532
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: PGA on Sunday. Did you get were you guys watching

533
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: this by chance? Ye?

534
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 5: I saw the highlights on.

535
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: You're watching it live?

536
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, I mean I haven't been doing anything but

537
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: watching TV.

538
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna affect your game. You had talked

539
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: about going to Chicago.

540
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 5: Let's play that sound again. Just have that ready trout

541
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: to show.

542
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: He's taunting you with this.

543
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: Just play it.

544
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: Whenever of course, like, are you going to be able

545
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: to I have a feeling.

546
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: That you would planned a golf trip.

547
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 4: I had a feeling I had that's off. I had

548
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: a feeling that.

549
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: That Gibbe is going to be at Absolution. But I'm

550
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: not so sure. He's not gonna be wearing like a

551
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: Jeff Jarrett T shirt.

552
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: He'll be in the corner. It's yours, not mine.

553
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: It's in play. It's in play.

554
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: No.

555
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: I was watch It's good. I mean, crowded leaderboard, good players,

556
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: great drama, and then silly chaos, nons.

557
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm seventeen, complete utter nonsense, nonsense. You know what we did.

558
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: So it's right when it was raining because we had

559
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: tons of rain.

560
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

561
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: So because I'm a flipper and I slept the cable,

562
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: the Live was like three channels up.

563
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, because they were on like the net.

564
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: They were on CW on in Nashville. So I just

565
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: was curious, like how the two are presented, and what's

566
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: the difference is when they go head to head. So

567
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: the boys and Amy and I were all watching it,

568
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: and I'm watching Travelers and I would flip to Live,

569
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: and then I said, the difference is very apparent to

570
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: me immediately the difference, not even just graphically how it looks,

571
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 2: but I'm like, well, guys, what do you notice and

572
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: the uh and beams. He goes, there's no one there, Dad, Yeah,

573
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: there's no one going to these things. They played in Nashville.

574
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: Bryson to Shambo is in the fairway, he's within six.

575
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: I think Hatton won it. He's within six or seven

576
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: of Hatton, So it's over like Caton's gonna win it.

577
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: There's not much drama to it. The Shamo is in

578
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: the fairway, there's I mean, there's no way there's more

579
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: than two hundred people surrounding the green. I mean, it

580
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: looked like a joker tournament or a high school tournament.

581
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: COVID there was nobody there. I'm gonna get to him.

582
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: You flip over to travelers. There's fifty thousand people around eighteen,

583
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: and that might be a low estimate.

584
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: There are more people on the green that didn't belong

585
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: there at the eighteenth that the travelers, and there weren't

586
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: attendance at the live of it.

587
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: I think you're not far off like it was. It

588
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: just so it reminded me like I understand why Bryson

589
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: goes nuts at the US Open.

590
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: He's having fun.

591
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 5: He's a full house, he's got a crowd.

592
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm back in front of people playing real golf, Like,

593
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: this's great. This is what it's supposed to be. Like

594
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: they're not getting that on that tour. Now, that's what

595
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: the money's for.

596
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Yep.

597
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: So to Rom who complained the first time, it looked

598
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: like to me he was complaining because people were moving

599
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: behind the green. You'd know better than me. Did you

600
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: see both complaints? That's my guess. On the first one

601
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: that people were moving all behind the greeny Yeah, and

602
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: then the second one he was complaining about the drone.

603
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: That's what the money's for, dude, you took the money.

604
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: That's how they do it.

605
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: That's how they do it. Yeah. I think he's he's

606
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 3: also madics he's not playing as well as he was.

607
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Oh, he once was playing, But how could he be.

608
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: What's the sense of urgency?

609
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: There's none, there's none.

610
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: You almost have to be wired like Bryson to be

611
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: able to compartmentalize and just be like every swing's the

612
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: same and try to lock into that, because otherwise I

613
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: don't know how you could possibly play your best in

614
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: that circumstance. Yeah, it's not engineered for it. It's not

615
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: demanded of you. Right, So I also think he's having

616
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: a great deal or regret. I think him and Kopka

617
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: or having a great deal of regret about not necessarily

618
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: choosing live. But just did they know what that was

619
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: in the brochure? The money's nice, really nice, life changing, generational,

620
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: no question, But the difference was so stark between the

621
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: two truly was very much.

622
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: So you think Keopka is having second time.

623
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he talked about that, not directly, but talking to

624
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: guys down at Memorial that covered him at the US

625
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: Open and the PGA, like some of the national guys.

626
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: I guess like he's like, what did I do?

627
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: Like?

628
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: But I think you'd said this once, Like his game

629
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: was kind of in a state apparel when he took

630
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: the money.

631
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you watch that, when you watched the what's

632
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: it called the Full Swing? When you watch Full Swing

633
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 4: and you watch his episode in particular, you could tell

634
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: he was doing it because he's like, my game's not

635
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 4: that good, and they're giving me a ton of money,

636
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: so that even if my game's not good, I can

637
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: still make a lot of money, I think, Yeah, I

638
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: think they definitely regret it. Yeah, hopefully it just gets

639
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: resolved and just we figure this all out.

640
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it felt like that at the US

641
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: Open that they're headed that way with the way they

642
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: went about Bryson and stuff, and that's going to sort

643
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: it out a little bit. But yeah, I don't know

644
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: what it is. I don't know how you make the

645
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: guys who stayed whole. I don't know what you do

646
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: with the guys who are on live, Like would they

647
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: want to go back to playing like the PGA Tour

648
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: like four rounds and cuts and all that stuff. Like,

649
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know what that is.

650
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what that looks like. Speaking of things,

651
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what they are. The Green Bay Packers

652
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: named Ed Policy is their new chairman, president and CEO.

653
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: He is Carmen's son. How about that our former boss

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Speaker 2: here a long long time ago. He'll take over for

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Speaker 2: the role in July of twenty twenty five. He actually

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Speaker 2: practiced law here from like nineteen ninety nine to oh

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Speaker 2: one here in town. Here's the reason I said, here's

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Speaker 2: something I don't know. Does anybody out there know who

659
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Speaker 2: makes the money with the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: Is this a rhetorical question or you know the answer?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know the answer because it's the city

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Speaker 2: owned or the community owned. It's community owned, it's club owned.

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Speaker 2: So like every year and the NFL teams make hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars, who's enriching themselves off the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that.

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Speaker 2: I've asked people who cover that team, and they don't

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Speaker 2: know the answer to that.

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Speaker 3: I see effect me.

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Speaker 2: You can google, but you're not gonna there's nothing. Someone's

671
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: getting wealthy owning the Packers. I just don't know who

672
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Speaker 2: it is. I can't make sense of it.

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Speaker 5: It says unlike other teams which generate windfall profits for

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Speaker 5: team owners, all Packer profits are invested back into the organization.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but like, but what then they would have they

676
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Speaker 2: would be so much wealthier than any other NFL team. Yeah,

677
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: as an organization, like their stadium should be a spaceship,

678
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Speaker 2: they should fly private, they should their own personal plane.

679
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Speaker 2: Like there's so much money that owners would otherwise make

680
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Speaker 2: that is now being back into the team. Someone has,

681
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Speaker 2: it's hundreds of millions of dollars every year. I don't

682
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Speaker 2: understand it.

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Speaker 4: The corporation is governed by a seven member executive Committee

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Speaker 4: elected from among the board of directors. The committee depicts

685
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Speaker 4: corp directs corporate management, approves major capital expenditures, establishes board policy,

686
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Speaker 4: and monors performance of management and conducting the business and

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Speaker 4: the affairs of the corporation. The elected president, currently Mark Murphy,

688
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Speaker 4: represents the corporation at the NFL owners meetings. The president

689
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Speaker 4: is the only officer who receives compensation. The balance of

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Speaker 4: the committee sits gradis.

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Speaker 5: Packers reported eight last year three hundred and seventy four

692
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Speaker 5: point four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: So what are you doing with it? Man?

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Speaker 5: Great question, Yeah, very good question.

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Speaker 2: No one's got an answer. I don't Yeah, I've got

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Speaker 2: no No. I've asked people who cover them. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where the money's going. You'd think that

698
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Speaker 2: if it's all just to that organization, everything they do

699
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Speaker 2: would be like real Madrid level, you know, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you have to spend it, you think about like

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Speaker 2: a college operation. They have to spend their money to

702
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: come off looking like a nonprofit. So the reason the

703
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: way that that happens is they pay strength coaches two

704
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Speaker 2: million dollars a year, they pay you know, women's basketball

705
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: coaches two million dollars a year. They pay stuff that

706
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Speaker 2: doesn't require that money, that kind of money in an

707
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Speaker 2: effort to spend the money.

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Speaker 4: So it sounds like it just goes into a giant account.

709
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: These unlike other teams, would generate windfall profits for the

710
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Speaker 4: team owners. All packers profits are invested back in the organization.

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Speaker 4: Often these funds go towards citium updates, blah blah blah.

712
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 4: The structure is enable the team in city to build

713
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 4: a football mecca that were left solely the high rolling

714
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Speaker 4: sports market would have no business surviving in a small

715
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Speaker 4: city like Green Bay. So it sounds like there's a

716
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Speaker 4: fund that it all goes into that that's what they do,

717
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 4: and they're able to do for all the stadium stuff.

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Speaker 4: They don't have to do anything with taxes because it's

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Speaker 4: all they've got it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's wild, yeah, wild stuff. Reportedly, ESPN offered Stephen A.

721
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: Smith a five year, ninety million dollar deal. What that's

722
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Speaker 2: a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's eighteen a year, brother, and.

724
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Speaker 2: I think they're seven apart. As that was the report

725
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Speaker 2: last week that he wanted twenty five.

726
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Speaker 5: Take your money.

727
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Speaker 2: The way they've built it, though, It's like, there's he's

728
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Speaker 2: responsible for a ton of programming.

729
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he's looking at the McAfee deal. Yeah,

730
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Speaker 5: this guy's getting this right. I'm the face of ESPN.

731
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Speaker 2: I've run the NBA coverage. I do three hours a

732
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Speaker 2: day or whatever he does on that show, all the

733
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Speaker 2: debate shows, Sports Center, all of it.

734
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Speaker 4: You had a question, Yeah, like all the shows that

735
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 4: he's on and stuff, are any of them making insane ratings?

736
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Speaker 4: I mean, I know that all their NBA stuff got

737
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Speaker 4: largely panned, their halftime shows, the pregame shows. So is

738
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Speaker 4: he Is he actually as revenue generating as eighteen million

739
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Speaker 4: dollars a year would indicate as an on air talent,

740
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Speaker 4: Like are people saying I need to go watch this

741
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Speaker 4: because Stephen A's on it?

742
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Speaker 2: Well, it's But the other thing is is it's twofold

743
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: because it's also you know, you're also looking at viral moments. Yes,

744
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: you know, so you're thinking about social media moments, and

745
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: he's good for that. He's good for one of those

746
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: a day. He's really the face of the whole operation

747
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: right now. I don't even know who they're trying to

748
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 2: make McAfee that. But they chose to do this because

749
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Speaker 2: it's cheaper to pay him than to pay an entire

750
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Speaker 2: news department to go do s. Yeah, so this is

751
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: a cheaper way of doing it. That's the way it

752
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: kind of goes. But God bless him. I remember he

753
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: got run. Do you guys remember this when he got run? There?

754
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: See I met him when he was with the Philadelphia Inquirer.

755
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: Could not have been nice. It was at the NCAA tournament.

756
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: I would say in like oh four.

757
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Speaker 5: He is so nice. He's fantastic to work with, like

758
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 5: when he's coming. When I worked at ESPN and we

759
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 5: would have him, he would do a show from there.

760
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: He would go on any of the shows on the station.

761
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Speaker 5: He was grateful for anything. It was like offered to

762
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Speaker 5: buy the entire building, like lunch the one day.

763
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that.

764
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Speaker 5: Really good dude.

765
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Speaker 2: My interaction was twenty years ago. But he was very

766
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: very cool at that. But remember he did a show

767
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: for them that got that run. That they launched him

768
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: was like a primetime debate show. I can't remember. Then

769
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: he came back with cold pizza.

770
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Speaker 3: He's been done for a while.

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Speaker 2: First take, Yeah, well I think col Pizza became first

772
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: stake when he got on it and it was him

773
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: and Skip in those days. But he tried like there

774
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: was a primetime show that he did I forget the

775
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: name of it that he did that that didn't last

776
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: long and got pulled and then he built himself back up.

777
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: So good for him. We got to go ahead.

778
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: Quite good for him.

779
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've got two deciding games, Game three finale in

780
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: the College World Series between the Tennessee and Texas A

781
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: and M, and then Game seven of the Stanley Cup

782
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: Final in Florida night. The Panthers are up three to oh.

783
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: The Oilers have won three straight and can become the

784
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: first team since the nineteen forty two Toronto Maple Leafs,

785
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: which we know so well, to go down from down

786
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: three to zero to winning the Stanley Cup.

787
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: And I would say, don't go to sleep on the

788
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 5: College World Series. It's been pretty awesome.

789
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: It's been fun. I've I have I'll paratroop in on it.

790
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. It's not something I've been to watch the

791
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 5: whole thing, but no.

792
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: No, it's been that the college athletes competing at a

793
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: high level. Is a growing industry. Yeah, it's live Women's

794
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: College World Series baseball. There's there's an there's an interest

795
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: for it. Absolutely.

796
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: One thing that we didn't get to, Yeah, is the

797
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: JJ Reddick miss that. Yes, it's okay. It literally happened

798
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: five minutes after we got off the year.

799
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right with Sham's right all along.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

801
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. Sure, maybe Dan Hurley played people.

802
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: It's hard to say. I don't. It's just like the

803
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Atkinson thing, Like, I don't know what difference it makes.

804
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: When Kevin Stefanski got here, he installed an offense that

805
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: made us demonstratively better right away schematically. We had an

806
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: advantage all of a sudden over teams we were playing

807
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Speaker 2: that we didn't have previously.

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Speaker 3: M h.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that in hoops. I

810
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: think it's a ceiling of how much a coach difference

811
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: can make.

812
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: I think I think the NBA is a player.

813
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: Then I think it's your ability to motivate and command

814
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: the team.

815
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: Sure, if you have similar talent, yes, but there's a

816
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: ceiling on.

817
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 3: The impact of the coach.

818
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Speaker 2: That's what I think. I don't.

819
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Speaker 4: I mean, Phil Jackson would probably say no. Popovitch would

820
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Speaker 4: probably say.

821
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: No, Well, Phil coached Michael Scotti, Rodman, Kobe Shaq, Kobe Gasol.

822
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Speaker 3: It's helpful, that's helpful.

823
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you put him on during that time,

824
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Speaker 2: like if he was coaching, Like for example, if Phil

825
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Jackson was coaching Portland, do they win five championships? I

826
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Speaker 2: don't know, and they got to Western Conference final?

827
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Speaker 3: I just they got to champion.

828
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Speaker 2: I'm talking the second ten the ten year in la

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Speaker 2: oh Okay. I meant that one, yeah, h yeah. You

830
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Speaker 2: could do the other one too, like the Clyde Drexler Portland,

831
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Speaker 2: Like if he was coaching that team instead of Rick Adelman,

832
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: do they win the series? The other team has Michael Jordan?

833
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: Probably not. It's Mike on that. But as for Reddick,

834
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Speaker 2: I don't He's as capable as the next guy. Manni

835
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Speaker 2: Williams got what seventy two million dollars, you can get

836
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Speaker 2: sixty eight million to not coach Detroit Like as Monnie

837
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: Williams any more qualified to coach an NBA team than

838
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick.

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00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the guys like Nick Nurse, who was

840
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: he was the great coach and fired in a year

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Speaker 4: Budenholzer right, and Milwaukee get rid of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows, Yeah, they run him pretty quickly. All right,

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870
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: You're certainly not throwing a party over here. Over what happened?

871
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: I was consoling an eight year old and like this guy.

872
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, I was not.

873
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: I was blown away by the uh, by the viciousness

874
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 5: of things. Uh. Then I had it. Yeah. And then

875
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: later in the day yesterday, was in contact with top

876
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: men and top individuals in this building who are quite

877
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: concerned about your ability to be ready when we go

878
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: to the Greenbrier in a month.

879
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: I think it's well. And he hasn't gone into the

880
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: square circle with a giant yet, correct which is coming.

881
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm right here right now.

882
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: I understand. But you're not yourself, and that is after

883
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: just there's no joy.

884
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: There's nothing here, No, no.

885
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: It's it's I've got some joy.

886
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: It's sad, sad, what's happened? And I appreciate your vigor.

887
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: But at the same time, these odds are long, very long.

888
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: Nobody likes see it a sure thing, it's boring. A

889
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: little underdog Triumph's exciting looks. Sure think it's boring.

890
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: What do you have on factor fiction?

891
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 5: I also like the beatings will continue until morale improved.

892
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: That's true.

893
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 5: Uh as we put the put the off season to bed.

894
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 5: This is the last day for you guys together in

895
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: studio the less Yeah, I have a few days, take

896
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 5: some time. July tenth will be the next time you

897
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 5: two are in a studio together.

898
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: This summing.

899
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: You said something last week that I didn't like, but

900
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 4: I knew it was true, and I feel it even more.

901
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 3: This summer is evaporating.

902
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 5: It's gone. It is gone.

903
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know why it's different this

904
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: year than other years. It's been largely really nice weather yees,

905
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: so I don't know, but yeah, it's they're stacking. I mean,

906
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: we're you're almost through June boys.

907
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: Yeah. So my wife's like, you've got to stop fretting

908
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: about this because I'm literally like, I'm not ready for that.

909
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: I think the other thing for us, because I mean,

910
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: like you guys are gonna obviously gonna go to the

911
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: Green Brier, and even me just like the what what

912
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: summer is over when football starts?

913
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 5: Correct, right, So for.

914
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Everybody else, they're going to Labor Day, they're like, what

915
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: are you guys talking about. I'm I'm good.

916
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 5: August is my best life. I got two months to get.

917
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, Like for us, it's over end of July.

918
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Done a month. Yeah, so that's the it's really a

919
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: two month and really, I mean this year it's even small.

920
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: It feels like I know it wasn't. You guys said

921
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: it wasn't, but it felt like Mini camp wint even

922
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: further than normal. But I mean that was only a

923
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, so like it's like a six

924
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: week window.

925
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like when the draft happens the last week

926
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: in April. Yeah, the ball starts rolling down the hill

927
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 5: and it is a solid fifty miles an hour by

928
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 5: the time you get to mini camp.

929
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I remember when they had that to

930
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: talk about, like, hey, let's have this. We're gonna do

931
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: more in the summer, you know, make training camp longer, Like,

932
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: if anything, make this break longer. You know, how many

933
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: can't be done before Memorial Day, and then that would

934
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 2: give you kind of two months of relative freedom. But yeah,

935
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: it's tight. It's it's a tight window.

936
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 5: All right. As we wrap up the off season. Uh,

937
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 5: we'll get to our Browns offseason awards coming up in

938
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 5: a few minutes. But little NFL fun on this Monday.

939
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 5: By the way, the voice will be in studio, mister Fish,

940
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 5: very very good. The the uh factor fiction. Three teams

941
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 5: will make the playoffs from the AFC North time for

942
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 5: way too early prediction time. It really is early. It's

943
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 5: very early. In fact, it was confident. I can tell

944
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: you hard knocks will be ecstatic with that.

945
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that these are the four of

946
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: the the four of the ten best teams in the AFC.

947
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 4: So here's the way that I look at it. Kansas

948
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: City is gonna make it. You're gonna have the and

949
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: then everything. You have four champions, so let's go west.

950
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 4: Kansasity makes it. I feel like the Chargers have a

951
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: chance to be a wildcard team because of Harbaugh. Okay,

952
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: I think you've got the Jets, and then you have

953
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: the Dolphins and the Bills, who feel like potential Dolphins.

954
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 4: Probably a pretty good bet to make it. In the South.

955
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 4: You've got everybody's Darling Houston. It's not like the Jags

956
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: are trash. And there's a quiet buzz in NFL circles

957
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: about the Indianapolis Colts, who were one small play away

958
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 4: from winning their division last year.

959
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: I kind of have a feeling that it could be

960
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: a subtraction by addition, with Richardson versus Minshew, And I

961
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: don't think minshe's great, but Richardson's gonna learn on the

962
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: job right now.

963
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 4: You know, whatever he did in this early portion of

964
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: the off season, there's more hype on him as taking

965
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: the huge leap in the NFL becoming the next breakout

966
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 4: star than anybody.

967
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: He just just played so little football, not just in

968
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: the league but even in college. It's just not a

969
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: lot of ball.

970
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: Agreed, So anyway, I think that's possibility. And then in ours,

971
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 4: all four of them, you have to consider his possibilities.

972
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 4: I think three means you get two of the wild

973
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: cards and there's one other wild card to go, probably

974
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: to the AFC East. I could see that. I could

975
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 4: see US, Ravens, Bengals.

976
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 3: All making it. So I'll say fact as well.

977
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 5: Next jes the Jets are the team to beat in

978
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 5: the AFC East.

979
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: Can I just say, can you say something for a second.

980
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: That's Paulus. That wasn't even Gibbet asking for it. This

981
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: was like still is traumatic?

982
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: Seriously an event that happened in my life, your band

983
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 4: and a painful event that happened in my life. And

984
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 4: you would think that like I would get some support

985
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 4: here you feel I feel one hundred support from you.

986
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: I hope so I hope that you do. Not well

987
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: that that was That was Paul, That was even Gibbie

988
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: asking for it. Paul is sticking a tea, came to

989
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: an agreement. Oh he gave walking off, sir GESU.

990
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 5: Rub some dirt on it. Let's go move forward.

991
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 2: There was smoke coming off the man's head. I didn't

992
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: even know that happened.

993
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 5: I didn't either see such a thing. Well, to be fair,

994
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 5: I'm seen a lot of people hit over the head

995
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 5: with the guitar either, not that way.

996
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: No, are they are the Jets the team to beat

997
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: in the AFC East?

998
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: Yes?

999
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they are for me, Yes until I

1000
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: see Rogers not play again. Yes, they have the best roster,

1001
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: they're loaded.

1002
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 5: They are next the Bears will make the playoffs out

1003
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 5: of the NFC factor fiction.

1004
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: All right, So let's do this again.

1005
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 4: NFC So West, Niners in Rams possible, Seattle maybe possible.

1006
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 4: I mean they made it two years ago. I don't

1007
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 4: think Arizona's going to the playoffs this year. No NFC East, Cowboys, Eagles.

1008
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, both in Eagles better makeing.

1009
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: NFC South, I think just Atlanta, but Tampa, you gotta say,

1010
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: is a possibility.

1011
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

1012
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: And then in the North Detroit, Green Bay they're gonna

1013
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 4: have to get three in if Chicago's going to make it,

1014
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 4: so that means you'd have one other wild card, which

1015
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: you feel like is coming from the East, which means

1016
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to get in.

1017
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: They're gonna have.

1018
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 4: To beat the Rams and or somebody in their division.

1019
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to be better than one of those

1020
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: two things, which is tough, but I think they could.

1021
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 4: They have a good roster. I think they're going to

1022
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: be more fun than maybe they are successful year one.

1023
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: My hunch is it's it's a little bit too much

1024
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: too soon, but also acknowledging that their roster is really

1025
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: good and that honestly, if Caleb is like eighty percent

1026
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 2: of what Stroud was last year.

1027
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: He's got a better supporting cast.

1028
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: He definitely does. So they go. I mean the schedule,

1029
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: so let's see it. They go. They're home to Tennessee.

1030
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: So the first four games are Tennessee at Houston, loss

1031
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 2: at Indy Rams at home.

1032
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: That's going to be a huge game.

1033
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: That's September twenty ninth. Their next four are Panthers when

1034
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: Jaguars commanders Cardinals. They could go four to oho in

1035
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: that stretch, but even three and one.

1036
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: They need to hope to be They got to be

1037
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: four and four after eight.

1038
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: Yep. Next four there are Patriots at home, Packers at home,

1039
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: Vikings at home at Lions.

1040
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: Win loss two and two, so right around even yep.

1041
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: Next last five at Niners at Vikings, Lions at home, loss,

1042
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Seahawks at home on the twenty sixth.

1043
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: That could be a big game too, yep.

1044
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: And then at green Bay to close it out. So

1045
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: it run nine wins, eight wins.

1046
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're right around five eight and a half.

1047
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 5: That probably won't do it no well, and the big

1048
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: question is eber Fluse forget about the quarterback situation like

1049
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 5: they brought him back.

1050
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: One question for them is if you go, is it

1051
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: going to be better for their franchise long term to

1052
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: be the seven seed this year and run it back,

1053
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: or to potentially miss the playoffs and decide, all right,

1054
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: let's make a change and bring in a bigger name

1055
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 4: or more of an innovative offensive mind to work with

1056
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 4: your quarterback.

1057
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: The keeping of him when you had the perfect get

1058
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: out of jail free card is just stupefying to me

1059
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: that they would do that. I don't understand it. I'm

1060
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: actually curious. One of you guys said it, like, we'll

1061
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: finally get to see what makes him tick on hard knocks,

1062
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: Like what type of does he is a big force

1063
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: of personality. I have no idea this is going to

1064
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: come across that way.

1065
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 3: We'll find out.

1066
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: No.

1067
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 5: Next, I'm gonna skip down just because unless you have

1068
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 5: an early favorite to win the AFC and NFC, I.

1069
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: Mean you have to say Kansas City until somebody can.

1070
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: Beat Kansas City, San Francisco until they get beat yep.

1071
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 5: Okay, Then next, which team that didn't make the playoffs

1072
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: last year has the best chance to make them this year?

1073
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati gold chain is spectacular by the way it is,

1074
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: he's wearing his those Aviators, this signed their functional to

1075
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 2: eye your eyes from what it happened.

1076
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: Ugly, it's ugly. Ugly there. Cincinnati made the will make

1077
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: the playoffs? That did not?

1078
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: Yes, what if you take injury out of it? So

1079
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: you can't use the Bengals, you can't use the Jets,

1080
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons Falcons.

1081
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, as long as Kirk plays, Yeah.

1082
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna play. What do you mean? And don't worry.

1083
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 4: They used their first round draft pick on a quarterback

1084
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: who's not going to play for three years after using

1085
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 4: their previous first round draft pick on a running back.

1086
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: It's pretty wild and they definitely didn't need Bill Belichick.

1087
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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: By the way, you're listening to a fifty ESPN Cleveland,

1089
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: a good Karma brand station.

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Speaker 5: Which team that made the playoffs last year misses it

1091
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 5: this year?

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00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: Well, Tampa Bay is the easy one. I would think Steelers.

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00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Pittsburgh the other one. It could

1094
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: be Houston too.

1095
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 5: A lot of people want to anoint them.

1096
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: We saw a thing like he was. They were so

1097
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: good down the stretch obviously, and we saw firsthand. But

1098
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: I think Jacksonville will be good again next year and

1099
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: you had talked about Indy maybe making a move to Bills.

1100
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: Maybe Houston Young thinks that they're better than people think

1101
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 3: they are. I still understand letting Mike Vrabel, though.

1102
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't either. Buffalo Man, If Buffalo is the playoffs

1103
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: like they would, I would think that.

1104
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: Would be it'd be time to redo some things.

1105
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 4: That'd be a big, big They really had a nice

1106
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: window and they went in and just weren't able to

1107
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: get it done.

1108
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: It's hard.

1109
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 3: It is hard.

1110
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: All right, yourself, you're safe.

1111
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 5: We're safe. Ball are we safe? Maybe we're not. Just

1112
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 5: keep those coming.

1113
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

1114
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 5: Hate to see it.

1115
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: It's so personal. It's almost like a personal attack. The

1116
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: man's bleeding from the top of his skull.

1117
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 5: I can see. I haven't seen any blood.

1118
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: It was an attack, dastardly deed. Well, we'll hand out

1119
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: some off season awards coming up. Naturalist to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: It's your Cleveland brown Saying away tickets now for all

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: day before we get to the off season awards. I've

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00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: had very a lot of people curious. You know that

1129
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: they're just jumping in right now. A dastardly deed occurred

1130
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: over the weekend. You were attacked viciously, violently. You're a

1131
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: trooper that you're here. You're going to need some time

1132
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: to covalesce. It's something you've been dealing with throughout the show,

1133
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: and hopefully you'll be able to get healthy going forward.

1134
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: But just know that a Brown's Nation certainly me personally

1135
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: worried about your well being, but supportive of whatever you

1136
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: choose to do going forward. It sounds like what I

1137
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: appreciates to do is get.

1138
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: An a message. I'm going to answer the call. Brother.

1139
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't have a choice in these things. Yes,

1140
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: what Bose referring to, just briefly is that I was

1141
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: attacked Saturday night.

1142
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: Not an acron by two times. That's a guitar smashing

1143
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 3: over that you just heard.

1144
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: Two time Hall of Famer, twelve time world champion Jeff

1145
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 4: Jarrett unprovoked attacked me. And we're going to settle this

1146
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: at AIW Absolution seventeen July the thirteenth, So that's where

1147
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: we're at. I've got time to heal up. I'm not

1148
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: ready to compete today. I'm not ready for this right now.

1149
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: No, but I.

1150
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: Will be on July thirteenth.

1151
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you can count on.

1152
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 5: That, brother, that's coming.

1153
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: It's going to be here. Get healthy, get well. I'm

1154
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: concerned about this giant thing.

1155
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: Sottenham sing crazy about that, not crazy about it doesn't

1156
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: sound great to you. No, no, no, Well, I got

1157
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 4: some big dudes with me, not that big. Fair if

1158
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 4: you had if you had him and members only and

1159
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: divide by three, my three guys are still bigger.

1160
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: That's probably.

1161
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 5: That's the light of the day, right.

1162
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: Sorry, members, Jabbron.

1163
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: All right, time for your brown True. I know it's

1164
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: why it's funny.

1165
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: It's funny because it's true, because it's true.

1166
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: All right, Time for your Browns off season Awards. Gibbe, Hello, Gibbe.

1167
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 4: Nope, no dude, gentlemen, did you get hit over the

1168
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: head with a guitar because you're forgetting everything?

1169
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm ready to go on vacation.

1170
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: Already used to keep the stats. Yeah, running away with it.

1171
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 5: Oh today I'm crushing it.

1172
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: You are just in general, yeah, uh.

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00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: Kind of like your skull gen crushed guitars.

1174
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: Listening, I could see the blood on the top of

1175
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: the head on the cranium.

1176
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 4: I tell you what, I didn't expect Jeff Jarrett to

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00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: show up. I certainly didn't expect this to be like

1178
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 4: the favorite thing of Gibby's life.

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00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 2: You came with, well, I expected the last part.

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 5: Once you're like, hey, can we have that for today,

1181
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 5: I'm like sure, And then I heard it. I'm like, yeah,

1182
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 5: so it's gonna own wit there with the best intents.

1183
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: Yes, look what you guys did wasn't right. But also

1184
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: I have another life and like enough, Yeah, I got

1185
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: to know my place. Now you got drug into this thing.

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: I know.

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01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 5: There was a lot of trash talking by n Z

1188
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 5: lead off to this on set.

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Speaker 2: He thought he was taking two little guys on.

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Speaker 4: I really thought I was taking them one or I

1191
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 4: was gonna let I had people who wanted to be

1192
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 4: a tag team and fight them, not just a tag team,

1193
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: the tag team Joshua Bishop Filthy, Tom.

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01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: Lawler fight them in my place. Yep.

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01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 4: So I was trying to be discretching sometimes as the

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01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: better part of valor. I was trying to be smart

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01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: about it. And then they've escalated this to a level

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01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 4: that I never thought possible. But what's great about this

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 4: is that when you get knocked down in life and

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01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 4: you can get back up, you can settle the score.

1201
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm gonna do. You may think I'm insane,

1202
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 4: I do. I may be insane, I may, but I

1203
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: am going to make sure that absolution seventeen.

1204
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: I am going to win that match.

1205
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 4: My team, Team Zagura is going to have their hands

1206
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 4: raised in victory and that will be all the retribution.

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01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: Nay, that will be all the absolution I need.

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: There you go, all right? All right?

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01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 5: That being said, Brown's off Season Awards. One word to

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01:01:45,120 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 5: describe the Browns off season and why.

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01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: I mean largely uneventful. I understand that's two words, but

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01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 2: that's what happens when you're good. You know, we lived

1213
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: in a world for the longest time and where you know,

1214
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: the off season you are hiring and you're hiring coaches,

1215
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: you're hiring gms, you're trying to acquire quarterbacks or first

1216
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: round picks are huge splashes, and when you got Jerry Judy,

1217
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: but I mean huge splashes and free agency or trade like,

1218
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: the reality is you've got a great roster, and we

1219
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: have great rosters. You have quiet off seasons, so it

1220
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: was pretty quiet.

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Speaker 3: My one word September.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guitar boy.

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01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 3: Next, get me to September. Get me to September. I

1224
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: want to see this.

1225
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: It's been to straight off season September, which has been

1226
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: as good good. It's difficult from a content standpoint because

1227
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: we don't have a lot to talk about because they

1228
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: there hasn't been much done.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's very good, thanks Jeff Jarrett.

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 5: Very well.

1231
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: But from a from a team standpoint, it's a very

1232
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: good place to be.

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 5: Yes, which Brown has impressed you the most of this

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01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 5: off season.

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Speaker 2: So I'd never been He came to Tallahassee after I left,

1236
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: so I'd never been in the same room with Jameis

1237
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: Winston before. So I'd never had any people down there.

1238
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: But he's down there. Have been like, oh, dude, you're

1239
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 2: gonna love him like he's he's a comet from a

1240
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: personality standpoint, and so when he came in here and

1241
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: we interviewed him for the first time, like he's so

1242
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 2: shot out of the cannon, and I thought, well, that's

1243
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: just first day he's excited like I didn't, But no,

1244
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: that's him. That's just who he is all the time,

1245
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: first in, last out, like the stuff at the golf tournament,

1246
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: like he's just he is shot out of the cannon

1247
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: and he's just an incredible, incredibly positive presence. You guys

1248
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: saw him at the game in Birmingham Barie May's game,

1249
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: like he's doing the pep talk for that, like he's

1250
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: just if I know. So he's one of those guys

1251
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: who's gotten some there's some some stuff like in terms

1252
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: of people think like it's fake. No, no, no, always on,

1253
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: always on. Quarter is always in and ready to go.

1254
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: Z a girl.

1255
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 4: So I've been impressed by quite a few people. I've

1256
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: been impressed by Ken Dorsey. I've been impressed by not

1257
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 4: only the offense that he's installed, but the way in

1258
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 4: which the players have responded to him and the excitement

1259
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: around what he has brought to this team.

1260
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 3: I've been impressed by Mike Vrabel.

1261
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 4: Which I expected to be, but he's exceeded even those expectations.

1262
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 4: I love what he brings. I know how well regarded

1263
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 4: he was in Tennessee and what he brings to our organization.

1264
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: I have been blown away by Duce Staley. I mean,

1265
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: you talk about someone who came in this room and

1266
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 4: just absolutely took it over. Duce Staley. Been very impressed

1267
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 4: with him. From a rule standpoint, I've been impressed with

1268
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 4: the new kickoff rule, and I think it's going to

1269
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: be a heck of a lot of fun and is

1270
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 4: going to make a play that had been an afterthought

1271
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: compelling must see television. And from a player standpoint, the

1272
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 4: guy that I have seen the most growth from year

1273
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: over year is Cedric Tillman. I think Ceder Tillman has

1274
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 4: looked very good and that could be a wonderful thing

1275
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 4: for the Browns, not just for this year, but when

1276
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 4: you think about necessary succession planning that is going to

1277
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 4: have to occur over the next couple of seasons, that

1278
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 4: would be very helpful to have Cedric Tillman become a

1279
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 4: starter for your football team.

1280
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 5: What rookie do you think makes the biggest impact this year,

1281
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 5: not immediate, biggest impact overall.

1282
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: It's got to be Michael Junior.

1283
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 4: I think he's going to get an opportunity to rest

1284
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 4: the passer and some subpackages. I think that's the one

1285
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 4: that will make the biggest immediate impact this year.

1286
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you if you take, if you

1287
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: allow me to go into the coaching staff, then I

1288
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: think it's Dorsey because I think that will the fans

1289
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: will notice that most just the imprint that he has

1290
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: in what we do day to day. But if Mike's

1291
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: kind of the only one, like who else could.

1292
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 4: If there is a major injury to when you're Pro bowlers,

1293
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 4: you know, and then you get into the later picks. No,

1294
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 4: maybe the linebacker Watson will be a special teams player,

1295
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 4: you know, maybe Jamari Thrash will do some stuff on

1296
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 4: special teams for you. But yeah, this is not a

1297
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 4: group that you're necessarily counting on anything from it. And

1298
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 4: I don't think it's also I don't think it's a

1299
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 4: lock that everyone who is drafted is on this fifty three.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I think that it would be if you.

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Speaker 4: Were to be able to, you know, have odds on

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Speaker 4: what's more likely that every draft pick makes the fifty

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Speaker 4: three or that there are draft picks.

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Speaker 3: That do not. I think that do not is three

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Speaker 3: to one. Yeah, favorite.

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Speaker 5: What position on offense? Is the strongest and.

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Speaker 3: I said that wrong, A one to three.

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Speaker 5: Favorite strongest position on offense and on defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I still think the overall strength of our

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01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: offensive line is excellent. Is the top yep krem la

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Speaker 2: crem of our team on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Offensively, I think our receiver room is going to be

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 4: at the end of the season viewed as a strength

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 4: when you talk about Amari, Jerry Judy, Elijah More, Cedric Tillman,

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Speaker 4: and it really needs to be that. That has to happen. Defensively,

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Speaker 4: I think it's the defensive line. It could be the edge,

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 4: it could be the interior, it could be all of

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Speaker 4: it together. I think you're loaded there and then I go,

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Speaker 4: you have.

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Speaker 3: To go to you got to go second.

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: You're loaded.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, Jordan Hicks and j Oka

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 4: is gonna by the end of this year, is gonna

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Speaker 4: be considered one of the top linebacker tandems in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the all of it. Yeah, our defensive one through

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01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: eleven is pretty ridiculous. I mean, it's the best even

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Speaker 2: c NFL last year. I would be shocked if it

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: wasn't in that. In the vicinity of that, I think

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Speaker 2: the one position group that needs to be that needs

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Speaker 2: to play the potential as the receivers. To your point,

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01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: because Jerry hasn't done that yet, Cedric's just in year two,

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: hasn't done that yet, Amari is kind of Elijah hasn't

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Speaker 2: really done it completely yet.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: Coop's known, he's done it. He's all he's the pro bowler,

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01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: he's all of that. But if those other three guys

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: can play to the to the flashes that we've seen

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: either over the course of their careers or what we've

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: seen in mini camp and in OTA's, then look out.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Give me one position, either on offense or on defense

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01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: that concerns you a little bit going at a training game.

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Speaker 4: I'm not concerned about the quarterback position. But that is

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 4: the position that will be the key to this season.

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Speaker 4: So that's the one that it's.

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Speaker 2: The only one that you can even say matters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and am I worried about who our third tight

1348
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 4: end is?

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Am I worried about who's going to be in our

1351
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 4: six plays a game that we're playing base defense?

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01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: Who are Sam is?

1353
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 5: No?

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01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 3: Everything else is known.

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Speaker 2: It's the quarterback and it's it's just that it's just

1356
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: been so long since DeShawn has played a healthy full season.

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Speaker 2: It's actually been four year. It's just we just haven't

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: seen it correct. So if he does it, then if

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01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: he just plays in seventeen games, then I have no

1360
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: doubt he'll play very well. It's just he hasn't so

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 2: we just need to see him do that. And that's

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01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: that's it. There is no other you know, I guess

1363
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: like it's when does Nick Chubb come back? Like that

1364
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: type of stuff, and what does that look like when

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: he does come back?

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Speaker 5: But like what's the offensive line specifically at tackle look like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think we'll be good there whatever it is.

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: So if it's Duan and Jed, then we have three starting,

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: three starting tackles, so I think we're okay there, Like

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Speaker 2: if you're really good in the interior or the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's really just like, can Deshaun stay

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: healthy and play seventeen games? If he does, then I

1373
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 2: think he'll play really well. We just haven't seen him

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: do that yet.

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Speaker 3: Yep, agreed.

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Speaker 5: Biggest roster question is we headed into twenty twenty four

1377
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Speaker 5: or did you just answer it?

1378
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: I don't think you have any I think quarterbacks said,

1379
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 2: and it's just health. I think everything else is. I mean,

1380
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 2: you got to prove it at receiver, you have the

1381
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: talent has to prove out and it has to equate.

1382
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: But everything else, I'm good.

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 3: It's a good roster.

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: It's a really good roster, all right, gents, Brown, you

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01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: had the training camp battle to watch, Like it's kind

1386
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: of like it's only like defensive tackle.

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: It's more just.

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01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 4: Who's gonna get the playing time in some of the

1389
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: sub packages? Are we going to go for defensive line

1390
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 4: minute for defensive ends? You know, with Alex Wright's surgeon

1391
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 4: surge at the end of the year last year, I

1392
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 4: think he had a second four straight games to close

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01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 4: out the season. It's a little thing who's gonna make

1394
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: the who are going to be players forty seven to

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 4: fifty three?

1396
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 3: Like there's really there aren't training camp battles.

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 5: Who excels at special teams and earns overall roster spot

1398
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 5: because of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like so like in the cornerback room, the

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Speaker 4: battles are all happening. They're not to start. The battles

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 4: are happening. To your point, Tony Brown, justin Hardy, you know,

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01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 4: Miles Harden that we drafted Khalif Halassi. Who who are

1403
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 4: corners five and six? You know who are linebackers three,

1404
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 4: four and five? Who's tight end three? That's that's really

1405
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 4: all we're looking at here. You know, on the offensive line,

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01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: your backups, I mean you have like if you carry nine,

1407
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 4: you kind of know who you're nine are right now,

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01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 4: your nine are going to be the five starters. The

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01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 4: one tackle that we all think of as a starter

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: that's not starting. That's six, Zenter seven, Luke Whippler is eight,

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: and probably James Hudson, right, James Hudson's been around for

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01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 4: a while. Nine, and then maybe another guard, Michael Dunn.

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Speaker 4: I mean you're in a pretty good You're pretty well

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Speaker 4: loaded up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this is what happens when you are among

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01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: a handful of teams. Like what separates you us from

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01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: Kansas City it's if our if our quarterback plays near

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01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: that level, he doesn't even have to be Mahomes, but

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 2: he plays near that level, then you're right there.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's such it's a razor thin margin,

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01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 2: and it's just that one part of it that's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the Browns, you know one thing

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 4: that I'm not concerned about and I think is going

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01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 4: to end up being a big advantage for the Browns

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Speaker 4: a special teams. I love that de Hop is back,

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Speaker 4: I love that Bejorqez is back. And I think with

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Speaker 4: Bubba vn Trone, We're going to figure out a way

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Speaker 4: to be for this new kickoff role to be at

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Speaker 4: positive for our team both in return game and in coverage.

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Speaker 2: Certainly feels like that.

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Speaker 4: It does feel that way, and I think that I

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 4: think that's gonna be big this year. I think that's

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Speaker 5: to send you both out together. On the right note,

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Speaker 5: which is Pete Prisco's one hundred player ranking.

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Speaker 3: This is why he is absolutely wild.

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Speaker 5: We touched on this this on Thursday when it came

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Speaker 5: out the fact that there was only one Cleveland Brown

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01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 5: in the top one hundred, Miles Garrett number two. But

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Speaker 5: then you also an honorable mention status. David Njoku, Joel Beatonio,

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Speaker 5: Amaro Cooper, and Denzel Ward. Those are your honorable mentions.

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01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,879
Speaker 5: One player from the Pro Football Focus number three overall

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 5: roster in the league making the top one hundred.

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Speaker 4: It's outrageous, it's absurd present unfortunately, is it's not surprising.

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that when you go to fur

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Speaker 4: just we're gonna call it like an egregious standpoint.

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Speaker 3: The fact that.

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah Usu Kormo is not even listed as an honorable mention. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the fact that Why Teller, who's now three straight Pro

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Speaker 4: Bowls multiple second team All Pros in the National Football

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01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 4: League is not mentioned as an honorable mention, that seems

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 4: crazy to me. Joel Buttonio is for sure amongst the

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 4: top one hundred players in this league. Denzel Ward is

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 4: for sure amongst the top one hundred players in this league.

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper is for sure amongst the top one hundred

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01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 4: players in this league. J Oka is for sure amongst

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01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 4: the top one hundred players in this league. And I

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: would imagine if you were to do a draft and

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Speaker 4: completely disband the NFL, and so one hundred players is

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Speaker 4: three rounds worth of drafting, You're gonna get all those

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 4: guys picked in addition to probably the Chief because she's

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01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 4: probably a top five tight end in the NFL. Yeah,

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01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 4: so this to me is this is a very It's

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 4: not a surprising list. I mean Nick Chubb also should

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01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 4: be on there as well, because he is one of

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Speaker 4: the top one hundred players. I get he's saying, maybe

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01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: we don't know what that looks like, but it's wild.

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 4: These are some of this is just completely insane people

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Speaker 4: that are on here. Trey McBride, the tight end from

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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals, is number eighty three. And yes, he

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01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 4: put up some volume numbers last year. He's not the

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 4: block or the Chief is he wasn't even a pro

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 4: bowler last year. Let's say that that means he wasn't good.

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01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 4: He had nice numbers eighty one, eight, twenty five and three.

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 4: Chief had better numbers and was a pro bowler and

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 4: is a better block. Some of these I just marriages,

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Speaker 4: I think, are they're wild? These are It almost feels irresponsible.

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Speaker 2: I think I think also, like you put something like

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Speaker 2: this together. I mean, we did the trial of Pete

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: Prisco when he had Zeke Elliott raked ahead of Nick Chubb, right,

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: and you know he lost. We hardly got it was

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Speaker 2: more more decisive than the Pedro beatings. It was, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was just overwhelming. So it's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I think somebody says, hey, Pete put together a list.

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01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: He goes, okay, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's I mean, this is one and then I guarantee

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Speaker 5: this is the last thing he has to do till

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Speaker 5: training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I just I just think, you look at it,

1513
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: it's such a disservice. Actually he's happening in the league.

1514
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 4: It's a total It's that's that. I think the way

1515
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: that you said it right there is is very spot on. Yes,

1516
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 4: it is not in any way, shape or form reflective

1517
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 4: of what's actually going on.

1518
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 3: Some of this.

1519
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: It's it's I mean, did you see, like and I

1520
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: I was on him early last year he has Sam

1521
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: Laporta fifty eight.

1522
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 3: And I like, really good.

1523
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I knew he'd have a big year with

1524
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: the Lions. He was a fantasy stalwart, ten touchdowns, nearly

1525
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: nine hundred yards like he had but one year. Yeah,

1526
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: he's a pro and Pro Bowl and he's and he's

1527
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: fifty eight overall.

1528
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,839
Speaker 3: That seems wild to me, and he's.

1529
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 4: Eighty one, eight, eighty two and six and is a

1530
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 4: better blocker, for sure than than all these guys.

1531
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: He's got two of sixty five.

1532
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 5: I know, it's pretty amazing. Let's get to it. Hit it, Pauls.

1533
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 5: You can actually just do the higher lower just right,

1534
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 5: thank you?

1535
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: Okay, lower just right.

1536
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 3: Better or worse.

1537
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 5: Uh, there are a number of ways I could go here. Uh.

1538
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 5: Young Brock had t J. Watt at number five, but

1539
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 5: I think I gotta go Trent Williams first at number three,

1540
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 5: high or lower.

1541
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 3: Just right.

1542
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: So he's the best offensive lineman in football. That's that's

1543
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 2: That's kind of the consensus on it. Three overall is

1544
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: you know, look, do you think about the great friend

1545
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: of the program, the great hoff who's thriving in Zi Germany.

1546
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: His son is a rugby stud.

1547
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: The kid's a rugby stud. He's out coaching, he's living

1548
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,839
Speaker 2: his best life. Somehow he's not going to see Germany

1549
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 2: or Bayern Munich play. But I'll let that slide, I guess.

1550
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: But the I remember Laura and I just telling me

1551
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: this when we were doing the whole conversation between Jamar

1552
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: Chase and Pena Sewell. I never game planned for a

1553
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 2: left tackle. Yep, So I can't have a left tackle.

1554
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 2: The third best player in football on a list that

1555
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: has that goes quarterback defensive end. Now, I don't know

1556
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 2: how you weigh quarterbacks. It's really hard because they're their

1557
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: value is so out it's so extraordinarily more than any

1558
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: other position. Then I don't know how you do it.

1559
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: But I have a hard time having a left tackle

1560
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 2: number three overall, so I'd probably go lower.

1561
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 4: Agreed, Tyreek Hill should be up there. TJ Watt, Christian

1562
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 4: McCaffrey should be higher than he currently is. Nick Bosa

1563
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 4: should be higher than he currently is. Chris Jones should

1564
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 4: be higher than he currently is. Yeah, it's it's that's

1565
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 4: a tough one. And look, Trent Will's gonna at the

1566
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 4: back end of the top ten.

1567
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: I have no problem with that.

1568
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 4: So it's wild to me though, how many I think

1569
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 4: he goes with teams that he thinks that he likes. Yeah,

1570
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 4: and then he's like, I'm just gonna put all their

1571
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 4: players on here. Like to your point, you said Tua

1572
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 4: is sixty five, is two really sixty five? If Tyreek

1573
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 4: Hill's four and Jalen Waddles forty two?

1574
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 5: Right? Right?

1575
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 4: And they really haven't accomplished all that much. And he's

1576
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 4: got the best. This would make them the best receiver

1577
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 4: duo in the league.

1578
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: They haven't even won a playoff game.

1579
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 4: No, no, because the only other receivers that he has

1580
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 4: had it, by the way, the only receivers he has

1581
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 4: had of Jalen Waddle, Tyreek Killed, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase,

1582
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb, Davante Adams, A J. Brown, I'm on Ross

1583
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 4: Saint Brown and then Jalen Waddle.

1584
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too much.

1585
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 4: Do people considered, I mean, as Jalen Waddle thought of

1586
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 4: as being a top eight receiver in the NFL.

1587
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: I don't, but it's like, I don't know, maybe like

1588
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: if Tyreek's not there, maybe he would be, but there's

1589
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: still so many guys. It just doesn't make sense.

1590
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too much, too much.

1591
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 5: Next higher or lower. Josh Allen is at number six

1592
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 5: higher lower.

1593
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 4: Just right, I think we're gonna get a real appreciation

1594
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 4: of even more so of Josh Allen this year.

1595
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Allen turned the football over too many

1596
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 3: times last year.

1597
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: Yep, he would tell you that. And by the way,

1598
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 4: good because now we have Ken Dorsey here is he

1599
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 4: should he be ahead of Lamar Jackson, who's a two

1600
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 4: time MVP.

1601
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 2: That's a great one sixteen.

1602
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 4: And if you took Lamar off of the Ravens, that

1603
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 4: offense is actually not that exciting if they had to

1604
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 4: just have a like a drop back quarterback with what

1605
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,879
Speaker 4: they've got to work with there, he has eight flowers,

1606
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 4: that's great. None of the other receivers have amounted to anything.

1607
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 4: Mark Andrews is good, but coming off of an injury,

1608
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 4: and then he's so instrumental on why their run game

1609
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 4: so effective, not just with his own legs, but the

1610
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 4: distraction that he causes in some of the misdirections and

1611
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 4: the fact that he's got to be accounted for. Josh

1612
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 4: Allen is a one man wrecking crew, but I think

1613
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 4: coming off of his second MVP season that Lamar Jackson

1614
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 4: would have to be a higher or better ranked than

1615
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 4: Josh Allen.

1616
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's also behind Joe Burrow, who has played four

1617
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: NFL seasons and has only finished two.

1618
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: And has never been the MVP.

1619
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 2: No no, so like I mean, I think you're to

1620
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: the point with Burrow where you have to consider availability

1621
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: as a trait.

1622
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 4: Here's the other one on here that bugs me. Just

1623
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 4: right off the top, Aaron Rodgers is twenty. He didn't

1624
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 4: play at all last year none, So that's based on

1625
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 4: either what he was before the injury. Then Nick Chubb

1626
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 4: needs to be in the top one hundred.

1627
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent. Yeah for sure.

1628
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, next consistent.

1629
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: He does hate Nick Chubb. He's the only person on

1630
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: the planet does like to crazy. Uh.

1631
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey comes in at number eighteen, high or lower?

1632
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 5: Just right? Did you see him at Taylor Swift over

1633
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 5: the way? Do you see the party in London with

1634
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 5: a who's who's of Yeah?

1635
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah so they And by the way, good on him, yeah,

1636
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: good for him?

1637
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 5: Good for him.

1638
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: You're dating the most famous woman on the planet lived

1639
01:22:54,840 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: in Cleveland Heights, man, Can you imagine that life? No, Like,

1640
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: it's crazy out there in a top hat and tails,

1641
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: dancing around playing in a skit while she's dancing. I mean,

1642
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 2: come on, it's great, awesome, it's fantastic.

1643
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: He probably should be higher on this.

1644
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 4: He's the best tit in football by wide margin, has

1645
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 4: been for a decade.

1646
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 3: First ballot gold jacket.

1647
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I have no problem even with them having

1648
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 4: three guys in the top fifteen or so, with Chris

1649
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 4: Jones up there as well.

1650
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 5: Next no higher or lower. I scroll through here the

1651
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 5: one that is it's just crazy on his jump. This

1652
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 5: goes back to what you were saying about Prisco liking

1653
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 5: certain team. Maybe he likes the Bengals this year because

1654
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 5: he had Trey Hendricks moving up from ninety one to

1655
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 5: thirty three, I mean sixty spots. Yeah, he's got Burrow

1656
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 5: ahead of Lamar. He's got Jamar at thirteen.

1657
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you hit it. Zee.

1658
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 2: I think that he's just he likes a guy and

1659
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: then he just he puts him there for example, like

1660
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: in and I love him. I love this next guy,

1661
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: and you guys, you have him on the list. I

1662
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 2: think here, Yeah, he's on the list. He actually dropped

1663
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: him nine spots and this isn't all his fault. And

1664
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a monster this year,

1665
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 2: if if, if Rogers can stay healthy. But Garrett Wilson's

1666
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 2: one thousand yards and three touchdowns last year, ninety five catches,

1667
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: one thousand yards and three touchdowns, I mean Amar had games.

1668
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 2: What are we doing, like Amari's not on this list.

1669
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 4: Amaro had twelve to fifty and five average seventeen point

1670
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 4: four yards a catch, like.

1671
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: Come on, like with all sorts of And by the way,

1672
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: he didn't have Aaron Rodgers either, No, correct, and he

1673
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 2: still did it. And so like, yeah he had four

1674
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: stan how like the selective memory or the way that

1675
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,919
Speaker 2: he selectively views certain players, it's not there's no consistent

1676
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: to it at all. No, no, there's no rules that

1677
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: apply to it.

1678
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: No, it certainly does not seem to be that way.

1679
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: It's like, here, here's what I think, and you go, well,

1680
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: that's not right, and he's like, well it is, because

1681
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: this is what I think.

1682
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 4: You know, like and listen. I like Trevor Lawrence. I

1683
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 4: still think he's going to be very good. But Trevor

1684
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 4: Lawrence is on this list at number sixty two.

1685
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: He had a fine year.

1686
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: Remember we did the stats for him were.

1687
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 4: Like four thousand yards, twenty one touchdowns, fourteen picks, rating

1688
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 4: of eighty eight. I mean it wasn't not a pro bowler,

1689
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 4: not even considered anything. Twenty two he had twenty five

1690
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: touchdowns and eight picks.

1691
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he was.

1692
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 4: Much better a year ago. I don't even know why

1693
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 4: he's on this list. He shouldn't be in the eighty.

1694
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 4: He shouldn't be in the top one hundred.

1695
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: Next he's got Stinglely or lower. He's got Stingley eightieth.

1696
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 2: And I know he's good when he plays, but he's

1697
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: only played twenty games.

1698
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 5: In two he didn't even have him ranked a year ago.

1699
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: Like what he only played eleven He had five picks

1700
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 2: last year, so he had a lot of interceptions, but

1701
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: he only played in eleven games.

1702
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had Levante David in the top one hundred.

1703
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 4: Jok had a much better year than Levante David.

1704
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 3: So strange.

1705
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 5: Well up next, running back Derrick Henry last season number

1706
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 5: thirty this year ninety one. Higher, lower or just right

1707
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 5: for the new Ravens running back.

1708
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 3: Well, he loves the Raven. So the Raven he makes six.

1709
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 3: He's a Raven.

1710
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: I mean it's coming off four point two yards per carry,

1711
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 4: which is the lowest of his career. Eleven hundred and

1712
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 4: sixty seven yards, twelve touchdowns led these led the NFL

1713
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 4: in Russian attempts for the last five years.

1714
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 3: He's still very good.

1715
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say anything. If there's a chance that

1716
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: Rabel's nearby and he hears me, I don't want to

1717
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: get put in a headlock.

1718
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 3: I think he's definitely still top one hundred.

1719
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 5: Being of a match you don't want, No, you don't

1720
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 5: want any part of that.

1721
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,919
Speaker 3: But of mind his assistance.

1722
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 2: Well, who were the I just just wonder, like, who

1723
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: are the running backs? You got? McCaffrey's at eight?

1724
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 5: There are not many.

1725
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 2: No, McCaffrey's the only one in the top fifty. Yep,

1726
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: good grief. I mean, is it just McCaffrey and Henry.

1727
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly looks that way.

1728
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: Looks like it's just McCaffrey and Henry.

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01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 3: So I hold on a second.

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01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: He's he got two running backs in the top one hundred.

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01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 4: Well that's what he thinks about running backs. That's been

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01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 4: his thing for a long long time.

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01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: Well, then by that rationale, then McCaffrey ought to be

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01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 2: way higher up because he's essentially one of one.

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01:27:51,640 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's say player stands.

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01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 5: Just a strange, strange list very much as I mean.

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01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 4: The weird thing is he actually should have had Kyen Williams.

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 4: By his definitions, Karen Williams.

1739
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: Should have been on this list.

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01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 4: Karen Williams same number of yards on sixty different fewer

1741
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 4: carries so more. He averaged five yards of carry eleven

1742
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 4: forty four to twelve touchdowns and actually did more as

1743
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 4: a receiver than Derrek Henry. Derrick Henry averaged ninety sixty

1744
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 4: eight point six yards per game.

1745
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 3: Karen Williams led the NFL ninety five point three yards

1746
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 3: rushing per game.

1747
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 4: So he should be on the list. Yeah, and then

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01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb should be on the list. We all know

1749
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 4: that already.

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01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 5: Does he have brock Perty on this yes, yeah, he

1751
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 5: does at number eighty five, Okay, Mike Evans is eighty eight.

1752
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:45,839
Speaker 3: Mike Evans should be higher.

1753
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, some of these are. I think you just

1754
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: say we need a list. It's a tough and he's like,

1755
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: I like these teams. Here's some guys.

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01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it feels like to me.

1757
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 4: It feels like, oh, this guy Trey McBride helped my

1758
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: fantasy team.

1759
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 5: I've seen Nikua on here. Where's uh no, Cooper Cup?

1760
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 5: I mean pretty amazing.

1761
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: Did he did you do Pickens already?

1762
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 5: No, we did not do.

1763
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: Picking Pickens was on this Pickens is sixty eight on

1764
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: this list, and I like him a lot.

1765
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 4: Uh huh, I've been on thought. I thought he was

1766
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 4: a supreme talent the whole time. But I mean he

1767
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 4: had eleven he didn't have his numbers weren't even as

1768
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: good as a Maris. No, fewer catches, fewer yards, fewer touchdowns.

1769
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 3: What's I mean, I don't understand what we're doing.

1770
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: No, it's just it's strange. It's a very strange list

1771
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: that and he does this thing. Yeah, what we thank him?

1772
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you for the content.

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01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 2: Thanks for the content, Pete. If you ever want to

1774
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 2: go back on trial, we'd be happy to welcome you

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Speaker 2: back into the in.

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01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 3: The court of law man.

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01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: Yes, it'll be dismissed relatively quickly, so much more to come.

1778
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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and take care of yourself, Bentley, and

1786
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 2: physically I'm gonna get right get I have an unprovoked attack.

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Speaker 4: I when you sometimes, when you go through something like this,

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01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 4: you need to have that, you know, light at the

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Speaker 2: So I'm perfect.

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Speaker 5: Paulus, play it one more time for us.

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01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: It's one of the low points of the man's life.

1793
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: He was attacked, violated.

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01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 5: No, the the man got into the ring. Not for that.

1795
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 5: Not for that. No, I'm pretty sure he's seen enough

1796
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 5: of this over the years, jes Not for that.

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01:30:59,000 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 2: Not for that.

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01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 3: But it's okay. It's darkest before the dawn.

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Speaker 2: There you go on that note. The next level is next.

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