1 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Robert, thanks for joining me today. Uh, I'm happy to 2 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: have you back. I've been following along with all this 3 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: stuff you've been talking about. I am I'm shocked. I'm 4 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: alarmed of what's going on. There's attacks happening all over 5 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the place, and so I've been one to talk to 6 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you for a couple of weeks. I'm glad we finally 7 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: got a chance to do this. Absolutely so um Man, 8 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: there's so many things that, so many things to dive into, 9 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: so many topics to jump into. UM, let's start with 10 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the one, um, a big one, and then we can 11 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: dive down. So UM I've been talking about been seen. 12 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: It looks like we have a tax on free speech 13 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: from like almost every angle. I've been saying that I 14 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: believe we're in a war. Um. It's just a war 15 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: of information and money and so um on the information front. Um. 16 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: If the powers that be are losing their grip on 17 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: the narrative, then they have to up their game to 18 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: win the war on information, and so they need to 19 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: find ways to censor people, silence people, et cetera. So 20 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: I've been seeing this as this attack on free speech 21 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: from multiple angles. So a couple of ones that I've 22 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: seen are the Alex Jones trial. Right, Um, they're trying 23 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: to use something that has this unanimous consensus that everybody 24 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: thinks is bad and use that to chip away. We 25 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: have the Trump January six um thing going on, and 26 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: then we had this Tornado cash which was like a 27 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: public utility or protocol. But I think they all look 28 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: like a tax on free speech to me. What's your 29 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: take on that? No doubt. And in fact, the case 30 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have not paid enough attention 31 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to is the Alex Jones trials. So in those cases, 32 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: they're using it as a test case to whether you 33 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: can basically run show trials in America, complete show trials. 34 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: So they have gutted him of all of his procedural rights. 35 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: Not allowed to bring motions to dismiss not allowed to 36 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: bring motions for summary judgment, Not allowed to challenge the 37 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: legal sufficiency of the case against him, not allowed even 38 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: to testify on his own behalf as to his innocence. 39 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: He the only in fact that the trial that's guilty 40 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: until proven guiltier where he is not allowed to defend himself, 41 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: where evidence against him is introduced, but he is not 42 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: allowed to impeach or cross examine that evidence in a 43 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: meaningful way now. In fact, for example, in the Connecticut 44 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: trial going on right now, the judges said, there's one 45 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: name that cannot even be talked about in the entire trial, 46 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and that's Hillary Clinton. That's how insane the cases, even 47 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: though Hillary Clinton has a lot to do with how 48 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: that trial came about. So uh and and the reason 49 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: for that is their secondary objective. Uh, they're stripping of 50 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: all of his proceed Drill writes his day in court. 51 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: He hasn't given any day in court his right to 52 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: trial by Jerry on the merits. He's being denied his 53 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: right to trial by Jerry on the merits. Uh. They 54 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: claim that he didn't participate in discovery, but anybody watching 55 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the trial realizes he must have, because they have more 56 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: discovery the other side than anybody's ever had to give 57 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: in any case. It's it's about ultimately using him as 58 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: an example to take away other people's speech because the 59 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: legal president they're establishing. Because the other unique factor here 60 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: is Joe is being sued and for like unfair competition 61 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: and trade laws and consumer protection laws. But the people 62 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: suing him are not consumers. There are people who disagree 63 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: with what he said about topics over the years, um 64 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: and in instead it's basically a defamation case. Yet they're 65 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: being allowed to sue under these theories that no one's 66 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: ever heard of being applied in this context before. But 67 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: the it's not only that. The constitutional requirement is that 68 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: you can't be sued for defamation unless you say a 69 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: specifically factual statement that's false that you know to be 70 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: false about someone specific. So that's how we protect robust 71 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: free speech. We uh, there's no such thing as a 72 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: wrong idea in America. Yet they're trying to gut all 73 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: of that because in the Jones case, he never talked 74 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: about the people that are suing him, never mentioned him 75 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: by name, never referenced him. So forth, the people that 76 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: are suing him, there's only one or two people that 77 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: even got referenced directly or indirectly. Almost all the people 78 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: are suing him include an FBI agent. You have an 79 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: FBI agent suing him who didn't identify anything Alex Jones 80 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: every even said about him. He's an FBI lawyer, So 81 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: how is this FBI lawyer being allowed to sue? The 82 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: new theory is, if you say something that upset somebody, 83 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: and you know it might upset somebody, they can sue you, 84 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: and if it's controversial enough, they can sue you into 85 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: bankruptcy and oblivion, as the plaintiffs lawyers have said, is 86 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: their exact plan here in the Connecticut case, they said 87 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: it out loud in the courtroom. The place lawyer said, 88 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: justice is preventing Alex Jones from ever having a microphone, 89 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: ever having access to the media, ever being able to 90 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: have his opinion heard by you, the people, ever again. 91 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: And that's why the Jones case is so dangerous. They're 92 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: trying to establish the precedent that they can use lawfare 93 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 1: in the legal system to completely financially obliterate any dissident opinion. 94 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: And it's a precarious precedent. And because it's Alex Jones, 95 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and because the topic is Sandy Hook, most people are 96 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: too scared to look into it, to talk about it, 97 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: to challenge the media narrative, to contest what's happening, to 98 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: expose what's happening. Too many people on the right who 99 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: have disagreements with Alex Jones are letting those disagreements with 100 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Alex Jones blind the fact that just like he was 101 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: the Canarian the coal mine on big Tech. When they 102 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: took out Alex Jones, they used it as the precedent 103 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: ultimately take out the President of the United States. They're 104 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: now using him in the law fair arena to say 105 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: we if we don't like your speech, we can now 106 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: use the state court civil justice system to bankrupt you 107 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: because we don't like your speech. And we can do 108 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: it without every giving you your day in court, without 109 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: every giving you trial by jury on the merits, without 110 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: ever giving you basic core rights that every American is 111 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: supposed to have. Wow, that's a lot. That's a lot. 112 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: So um little known fact people will find out here. 113 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: But about two weeks ago I went and sat down 114 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: with Alex Jones and I even hosted the Info War 115 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: Show for a segment and then we went into a 116 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: long interview. Um, so I'm having that come out, but 117 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm afraid to put that on YouTube. So it's probably 118 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna be on My Rumble, It'll be on the Odyssey, 119 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: It'll be on my podcast. It won't be on my YouTube, 120 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: just because I'm afraid of the backlash that will have. 121 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: But I was surprised at just the backlash I already got. 122 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 1: People saw me on Info Wars, even from my own 123 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: daughter who's like, he's such a bad man and he 124 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: said these bad things. And I told my daughter, I'm like, look, okay, 125 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: so he said bad things. It made people feel bad, 126 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: like that's wrong, and I don't approve that, and he 127 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that. Okay, whatever, But like it's not illegal, 128 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: it's not illegal. It shouldn't be. Um. You know, in 129 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: his in his defense to what he said, he's like, 130 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, he goes live whatever four hours a day, 131 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: so that's whatever, twenty hours a week, uh whatever, almost 132 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: a hundred hours a month he's live. He said. The 133 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: total amount of time he talked about that topic was 134 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: twenty four minutes, I think, is what he said. And 135 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: he said the same thing as you. He never mentioned 136 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: anybody's name, He never directly said anything whatever. Um. And 137 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: some of the comments I got from other people were like, well, 138 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: he used this to his advantage. He's trying to gain 139 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: from this. I'm like, he talked about it twenty four minutes. 140 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: The media has talked about hundreds of hours. Who's using 141 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: what to gain? But digging back into some of the 142 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: things that you said, because it's way worse than I 143 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: had even imagined. Um, it's a way worse not even imagined. 144 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: So they're denying him all these things to the point 145 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: that you're making um and I didn't write them all down, 146 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: But um, how are they able to do that? I mean, 147 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: is it because they have a judge that's just going 148 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: along with it and they're doing that? I mean, will 149 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: he be able to appeal this? I mean, I I 150 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: understand laws are being changed and it's becoming more and 151 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: more unfair, but for the ones that are still there, 152 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't isn't there some sort of recourse there? 153 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: There should? The problem is it's the failure of the 154 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: judicial branch, and the judicial branch is not stepping up 155 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: to meet and protect Alex Jones's rights because he's Alex Jones. 156 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: So the other dynamic is that there's sort of an 157 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: underlying class conflict in all of this because most of 158 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Jones's supporters are working people. So they may be business people, 159 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: they may be successful people, but they are not the 160 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: professional class, the clerical class, the managerial class. They don't 161 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: have a bunch of little letters after their name, like 162 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: we're reinstating old English royalty these days with J D 163 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: or M D. Or pH D and all that jazz. Uh. 164 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: But the the the group that doesn't like Jones is 165 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: from that professional managerial class. So Jones has an underrepresented 166 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: as part of his audience. And for people who don't know, 167 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a man who, according to government, 168 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: its own polls, media's own polls, over thirty million Americans 169 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: are are huge fans. That's as many people who vote 170 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: in the Republican presidential primaries to give people an idea. 171 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: So that's the scale of his influence, his influences. He 172 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: has been the biggest critic of the deep State of 173 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: anybody in recent American history. He's one of the most 174 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: important populist voices out there. And that's why he's being targeted. 175 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: That's why. And there's this mythology, like most people who 176 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: bash Alex Jones remind me the people who bashed Rush 177 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: Limbaugh and I'd be, I'd be. They would describe a caricature, 178 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: they would describe someone that's not the person. I'm like, Okay, 179 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: you're bashing someone you've actually never watched, you've actually never 180 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: listened to, you've actually never read. If you're gonna bash them, 181 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: at least you know, engage with them. And then come 182 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: up with a determination. Um. But the it's this caricature 183 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: of him. But there's this underlying class conflict where the 184 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: professional class hates him, the status hate him. Uh, the 185 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: working class, the working person, the ordinary felt person, they 186 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: love him. But in the judicial branch, which is making 187 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: all the decisions here, it's it's by definition dominated by 188 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: the professional manager, a real class. So in their little group, 189 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: in their little bubble, Alex Jones is almost universally despised, 190 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: so they can just ignore the rules. The other scary 191 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: thing is, I mean, this is a trial. These trials 192 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: make Idiocracy's trial look like a beacon of justice. That's 193 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: how bad they are, um in their parodies of parodies. 194 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: And the problem is known none of the other judges, 195 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: because that's the only people who can put a stop 196 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: to this higher courts. So it's all judges getting to 197 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: decide the ethical conduct of judges, which I've always had 198 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: a problem with. Uh, they're they're all in on it. 199 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean that they all want Jones hurt. So there 200 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: were For example, Jones was because he made criticisms of 201 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: a lawyer from his own TV network. Early on in 202 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: the case, the judges said, if you become if you 203 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: are sued, you lose your free speech rights. As to 204 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: that case would never happen. That's directly contrary to U. S. 205 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: Supreme Court law. But unless the U. S. Supreme Court 206 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: gets involved, and they almost never do, the other judges 207 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: get away with violating his rights. And if anybody thinks 208 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: they're not planning on using this as a press of it, 209 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: that's the mistake. They're using Jones because they know he 210 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: has inadequate political protection amongst their colleagues in the professional 211 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: managerial class and the press and in the legal world. 212 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: But then they're gonna take that precedent and apply it 213 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: to everyone else. It's what Big Tech did. People may 214 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: not remember when they took down Alex Jones. They lied 215 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: about it. They said, oh, this is limited Alex Jones. 216 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: We're not doing this because of his speech. We're limited. 217 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: It's certain incidents that occurred. They could never find or 218 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: identify what those incidents were. Very similar. They had like 219 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: a fake trial of their own kind. And then of 220 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: course they said, well later on, well we took out 221 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: Alex Jones for wrong think, we can take out the 222 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: President United States for wrong things. So the they're gonna 223 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: do the same thing here, and that there should be 224 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: remedies at the Court of Appeals. In reality, other than 225 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: the Texas Supreme Court and the U. S. Supreme Court 226 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: and those respective cases, those are the only courts that 227 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: might actually do justice. The problem is they don't have 228 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: to take the case. The judges that do have to 229 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: take the case are willing to violate the rules to 230 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: get at Alex Jones and and doing so, they want 231 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: to establish new rules so they can get it the 232 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: rest of us. So it's almost like these judges have 233 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: it out for him to the kind of past case 234 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: that you're making, um. And if he got another judge 235 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: that was more sympathetic or really want to uphold the 236 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: law regardless of who it's being examined against, maybe he 237 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: could catch a break. But that's not happening. But I 238 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: think what's even more dangerous as to the point you're making, 239 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: is that even though they're ignoring the law, Um, once 240 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: they rule this way, then it sets present, so they're 241 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: almost they're ignoring the law. But then if they rule 242 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: this way, they're actually changing the law. That's exactly right, okay, 243 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: And it was what they're going at. They wanted to 244 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: show that they could do a modern day show trial 245 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: and get away with it. And they could do it 246 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: as to someone as well known as Alex stand well despised, 247 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: exact and that, and because today he's well despised, tomorrow 248 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: they'll go to the person who's not as well as 249 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: who may who's just well despised by the wrong people. 250 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: That they'll continue to escalate in the same way, big technic, 251 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: and they'll say, hey, we did this in the Alex 252 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Jones case, so we can do it to you. So 253 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: they try to find something that has general consensus in 254 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: the community that most people would agree that if this 255 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: guy said mean things about parents losing their kids, everybody 256 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: would agree that's probably not good. And so then they 257 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: take that everybody agrees that, well, let's let's prohibit that 258 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: from happening, and so um everyone Nope, nobody wants to 259 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: stand up for it, and they're just okay, seen it 260 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: happened to this bad guy, um, not realizing that their 261 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: next I guess that's exactly right there, that they're signing 262 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: their own death morn. So so there's there's one one 263 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: when when you're talking about it and I want to 264 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: jump into this later, but just as you're talking about it. Um, 265 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: this big takedown that just happened was this Andrew Tate 266 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: and I was watching part of this interview with Patrick 267 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: back David on Value Tayment, and he was just saying, how, um, look, 268 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't have viewers. I have fans. And the difference 269 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: is my fans will follow me to wherever I go. 270 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: They don't just watch me because I'm there. So Alex Jones, 271 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: he got wiped off the face of the earth. He's 272 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: still alive and well on his main channel, he still 273 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: has millions of people tuning in regularly. Those were fans, right, 274 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: And so Andrew tay said, those are my fans, he said, 275 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and they don't want me standing up and saying these 276 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: things having fans, and he systematically broke down how all 277 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: these things are trying to accuse him of. We're all 278 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: taken out of context from little snippets or whatever. But anyway, 279 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to jump into that the next thing. 280 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: So that's okay. So, so Alex Jones, there's taking something 281 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: that's just general consensus and they're using it to chip 282 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: away at freedom of speech. Then we have this Tornado 283 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: cash and I don't know how much you looked into that. 284 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: But Tornado cash is a protocol that allows people to 285 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: mix their cryptocurrencies to gain more privacy. Now they say that, well, 286 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: criminals uses, terrorists uses, and they could be laundering their 287 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: money and then they're gonna go blow up schools and 288 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: kill a little kids. And of course nobody wants that. Uh, 289 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't I have little kids. I don't want my school, 290 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: my kids school bombed, and so that has general consensus. 291 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: We all agree that's bad. But then they try to 292 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: attack this uh protocol, a public utility that's been as 293 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: I understand, three times the Supreme Court has upheld that 294 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: encryption as freedom of speech. So it seems to me 295 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: it's an attack on freedom of speech, oh, no doubt. 296 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: And and it's freedom of speech at multiple levels. So 297 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: they've often tried to use the monetary or regulatory angle 298 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: to circumus to limit speech. So that's what Citizens United 299 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: was all about. So, like you look at campaign finance reform, 300 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: often campaign finance reform was about making a person get 301 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: the consent approval of an elite donor class. Right. If 302 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: if one person can be the sole donor of a campaign, 303 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: then you can run for office. If you don't have 304 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: your own money, and you and un let's say you 305 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: don't have the means of crowdfunding back in the day, 306 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: then uh, with just the support of one percent of 307 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: the economic elite. Right, but if you if everybody's limited 308 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: at what they can contribute, they can require you to 309 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: get the consent of twenty of the economic elite, because 310 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: it's it becomes its own form of donor control of campaigns. 311 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: And then one part of this was always how can 312 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: of this happened when money? When you cannot have speech 313 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: if you don't spend money on that speech. Right, I 314 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: got a mike here. If suddenly having a mic means 315 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't get the right to speech because it cost 316 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: me money to have the mic, then all of a 317 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: sudden I lose my right to free speech. Without the 318 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: freedom of payments, there is no freedom, precisely. And so 319 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: currency is power, and the currency is the means by 320 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: which speech is expressed and the means by which speech 321 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: has heard. Which is always important for people to remember 322 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: that what they're trying to do is prohibit our ability 323 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: to hear what we choose to hear. And that's part 324 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: of free speech. It's not just the right to speak. 325 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: It's the right to hear what we want to hear. 326 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: Freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of association, freedom 327 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: of belief, freedom of religion, freedom of pressed. That's what 328 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: they all come back to, the right for me to 329 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: hear what I want to hear, not the government to 330 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: gate keep it for me. Uh. And so they were 331 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: always going to go after anybody in the crypto space 332 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: that they thought they could mean that's a lot of 333 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: what the sec actions are. They're trying to convert everything 334 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: into a secure transaction as if it's a publicly traded stock, 335 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: when that's a real reach in my view, they've they've 336 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: always to uh expanded the definition of security to reach 337 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: things that were not originally intended in the legislation. I mean, 338 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: you see it so many different places. The FDA trying 339 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: to regulate medicine, the U. S d A trying to 340 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: regulate little Amish family farmers. Uh. And so the same 341 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: context here is they want to be able to get 342 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: in and restrict your ability to express yourself and have 343 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: meaningful power to have your voice heard and to hear 344 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: what you want to hear by using the disguise that 345 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: this is about monetary control of a financial instrument. Yeah, 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: so um. And it's also because of encryption. So I 347 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: think it's the encryption that's been upheld as free speech. 348 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: It's like it's code. They printed it out, they took 349 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: it to the Supreme Court and they said, yeah, that 350 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: is code. Um. And then also the President that this 351 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: sets too because it's a public utility. So typically people 352 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: are sanctioned or nations are sanctioned. Maybe there's some due 353 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: process there where that person could defend themselves maybe, um, 354 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: But we don't have a public utility. So because a 355 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: criminal drove on a road, now we're gonna sanction the road. 356 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: Because because the criminal drove in a car, we're gonna 357 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: sanction a car. Because the criminal used a protocol, then 358 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna sanction a protocol. What kind of precedent does 359 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: that set? All of it kind of reflects a broader 360 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: principle of what they allow to have, who they allowed 361 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: to give privacy and secrecy to. Right, It's it's always fails, 362 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Like I always get a kick out of the government 363 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: that says any means of privacy or any means of 364 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: secrecy will be the key for criminals to do bad acts. 365 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: Yet somehow when it comes to the government privacy and 366 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: secrecy or absolute must we they must have things classified, etcetera. 367 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, isn't the same government that told us 368 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: secrecy equals criminality, privacy equals criminality. So the now we 369 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: it's a good transition. It goes into the Trump case. 370 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: So it's like, here you have Trump, but the government 371 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: is asserting that. The deep state is asserting that administrative 372 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: bureaucrats you call it, the national security apparatus, called whatever, 373 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: the administ exactly, the administrative state. These are people that 374 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: have only they have no elected constitutional power of their own. 375 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: They're only power comes from the President of the United States. 376 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: And yet they are putting the the former president and 377 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: likely future president of the United States, under criminal investigation 378 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: because he chose to keep his own documents on the 379 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: grounds that they the administrative bureaucracy, the deep state gets 380 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: to gets to decide what is and isn't classified. That 381 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: they decide what isn't isn't a presidential record, that they 382 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: decide what isn't isn't a national security record, that they 383 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: get to decide over the president. And it's someone who 384 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: only has power from the president getting to declare they 385 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: have power over the president. It is an attempt to 386 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: not only criminal eyes political disagreement and use criminal law 387 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: fare to go after their most critical political adversaries, but 388 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: it's an attempt to usurp our entire constitutional system of 389 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: governance so that they get to decide what the people 390 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: get to hear and see. Because it's the same version 391 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: of it. That's what classification is all about. Who gets 392 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: to hear it, who gets to see it, who gets 393 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: to know it. That's the decision that's supposed to be 394 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: made exclusively by the president, by the Constitution and by 395 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: prior decisions. Yet they're actually in court arguing that it's 396 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: a crime for the president to have it, it's a 397 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: crime for the president to try to declassify it, that they, 398 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: the deep state, get to unilaterally decide what do people 399 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: get to see and hear, even though nobody gave them 400 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: that power, not the people, not the Constitution. I just 401 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean hearing that. I just don't see how they 402 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: have any leg to stand on to the point that 403 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: you're making, Uh, there's there's specifically don't have the power 404 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: to do that. They're they're trying to take it, but 405 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: they don't have it, And so what's what what lady 406 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: do they have to stand on? And and I guess 407 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: then in this is this something that's again sort of 408 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: like the show trial. Um, they're taking something that maybe 409 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: has this big unanimous kind of consent. And we'll get 410 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: more into this, uh uh framing of these MAGA people. 411 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: Will get more into that in a minute. But um, 412 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: does this have any weight at all? Or is it 413 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: similar to like these impeachments that they didn't have a chance. 414 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Everyone knew they didn't have a chance, it got shut down, 415 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: but they still did it. Anyway, Is it like that 416 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: or is there actually teeth here? There's no legal merits 417 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: at all to their claim. In fact, it's a very 418 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: perilous press that they're trying to set. However, it is 419 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: like the Alex Jones case. Is it's another example of 420 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: our judicial brands and our justice system breaking down. There's 421 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: enough rogue prosecutors, enough rogue FBI agents who in a 422 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: DC jury pool because the case is being handled in 423 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: the District of Columbia, which there's problems up to begin with. 424 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: But basically, the swamp gets to judge the swamp and 425 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: gets to judge the critics of the swamp. And we've 426 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: already seen injury trial after jury trial. They're just politically biased. 427 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: So they can have somebody completely guilty and they let 428 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: him walk because they like his politics. They can have 429 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: someone completely innocent and they railroad him because they dislike 430 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: his politics. So I say that Martin Luther King had 431 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: a better chance at a fair trial in nineteen fifties 432 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: Birmingham than any MAGA or Trump supporter has in the 433 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: district of Columbia. And so because the the d C 434 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: jurors are the grand jury and the trial jury, and 435 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: you have a lot of weak need, politically corrupt judges 436 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: in the process, that's how this case could somebodyill end 437 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: up in an indictment, which would be utterly insane. It 438 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: would be without legal president, without legal merit. It would 439 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: be the open, overt political weaponization of the criminal justice 440 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: system for a corrupt and competent president to blame to 441 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: actually take out his political opposition. I mean, here you 442 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: have Biden's administration trying to indict the the candidate who 443 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: is leading in the elections against him. This is something 444 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: you hear about from third world nations, but it is 445 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: right now contemporary reality in America. Well, and um, when 446 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: Trump was running against Biden last time in this whole 447 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Ukraine call came up and then they he said, fine, here, 448 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: listen to the call or whatever. But they said that 449 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: he was they were trying to go after his opponent, Biden, 450 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: and that was the big deal. How how dare you 451 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: go after your opponent? Right? But now that's exactly what's 452 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: happening here, exactly. They're doing it openly and overtly. It's 453 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: extrait like they complained when Trump was critical of Hillary 454 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: and said she belonged in jail. They complained when he 455 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: was going to expose the Biden corruption in Ukraine the 456 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: UH and and we've seen what that has led to 457 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the war in Ukraine and all the 458 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: other problems that we now have under the Biden administration. 459 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it goes even worse than that, 460 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: going to suppressing speech. Uh. They are going after Project 461 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: Veritas for simply getting access to hunter By to Ashley 462 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: Biden's diary concerning very questionable conduct, to put it kindly, 463 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: of the President of the United States and his own daughter, 464 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: according to his daughter's own words. They're trying to put 465 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: people in prison for simply sharing that information with members 466 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: of the press, and they're trying to put James O'Keefe 467 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: and Project Veritas in prison. Shut down Project Veritas put 468 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: James O'Keefe in prison again after they, you know, wrongfully 469 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: went after him about a decade ago or so. And 470 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: it shows you how nuts it is. And the FBI 471 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: is acting as the private personal Stasi of the incumbent administration, 472 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: the and the deep state apparatus, and their weaponizing the 473 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: legal process in a way we've never witnessed before. And unfortunately, 474 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: so far, the judiciary has been an inadequate check on 475 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: that abusive power. Yeah, well, and when the and and 476 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: now we're also seeing them frame up the judiciary branch 477 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: as being bad, corrupt, outdated, etcetera. So now we see 478 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: these ramped up attacks on the Supreme Court, where the 479 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: Supreme court's an activist court now and the Supreme Court 480 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: needs to be we need to impeach Clarence Thomas and 481 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: like all these other things. So not only are they 482 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: using this legal system um for their own weaponization, but 483 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: they're also attacking it and breaking down the integrity or 484 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: at least I guess the opinions of people towards that court. 485 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: They're trying anybody that pushes back when the court system 486 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: gets attacked. So the judge that issued a special master 487 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: requirement in the Trump case, which is very common protocol. 488 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: By the way, nothing she did was unusual at all. 489 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: What was unusual as rating the president of the United States. 490 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: That's never been done before ever in American history. What's 491 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: unusual is claiming that the deep state has legal control 492 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: over classification, designation of records, over the president who controls 493 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: them and from whom all authority flows. That's what's unusual 494 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: and unprecedent. What's unusual unprecedent is one administration going after 495 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: their political opponent in such an overt way. Uh, the 496 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: all that's unusual. What the district court judge did would 497 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: simply say, let's have a third party involved, a special master, 498 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: to make sure this is done correctly. And what happens, 499 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: She gets personal death threats. There's people already being arrested 500 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: for it. Where does that come from? Political media press criticism? 501 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Because they believe that all all tools of power should 502 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: our ends justify the means that they will weaponize any tool, 503 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: and anybody who doesn't go along gets attacked, even if 504 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: you're the most well established justice of the most well 505 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: established legal institution in the world in Clarence Thomas. Their 506 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: their point of Clarence Thomas is if we can go 507 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: after him, we can go after anybody. So you better 508 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: play ball and do what we we demand you do 509 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: and ignore the law and weaponize it for our political 510 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: purposes or your own personal and professional careers at stake. 511 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Man breakdown of our institutions at the at the highest 512 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: level and at the fastest pace that I could imagine 513 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: ever seeing this. I was really shocked when we saw 514 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: the leak at the Supreme Court on the Roe v. 515 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: Wade situation. And so we have the highest institution, the 516 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: highest court in the land, and an activist, obviously an 517 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: activist leaked this because it was a very sensitive information 518 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: on one side, right, um, very polarized thing that was leaked, 519 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: and that was a complete breakdown of trust in the 520 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: high institution. But then um, the Supreme Court had also 521 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: rolled back some policies I believe on like on on guns, 522 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: concealed carriers, etcetera. The State of California hated that was 523 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: very open about that. The Governor of California and the 524 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: head of the d o J. The d A said 525 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: that they were a g said that they were going 526 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: to do everything possible to overturn that, and then like 527 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: a week later, all the records just mysteriously got leaked 528 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: in California, Like we're witnessing, uh, the breakdown of the 529 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: highest level of institutions in the land completely. And it's 530 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: it's part of a generational shift that the new generation 531 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: of power, the New Left. I tell people, if you 532 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: want to comparison, don't look to the nineteen sixties for 533 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: the mindset of the New Left that it looked to 534 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties. It's very much a status goal, and 535 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: it's very much that the ends justify the means so 536 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: and that they've been taught this in various ways from 537 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: the time they've grown up throughout their educational institutions. These 538 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: slow march through the institutions, as Gramcy called it, the 539 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: sort of Marxist objective to take over society from within 540 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: has effectively taken place in America's educational and cultural institutions. 541 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: That's why our films are such crap, you know, That's 542 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: why our TV shows, I mean, one after the other. 543 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they destroyed Star Wars, they destroyed Star Trek, 544 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: they destroyed Marvel. I mean that because they're going through 545 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: one after the next, after the next. Now they're going 546 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: after a little mermaid. It's gonna be one thing or 547 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: the next. It's because they want to culturally control the 548 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: minds of the populace and the people of this new 549 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: generation that says the ends justify the means that free 550 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: speech is actually bad because free speech is dangerous speech, 551 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: free speech is harmful speech, free speech is hurtful speech. 552 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: So these are people who grew up in you know, Uh, 553 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: my niece went to Toughs where they had ninety four 554 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: different safe spaces and I was like, nobody at Toughs 555 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: even disagreeable one another. What do you need ninety four 556 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: safe spaces? And it's just one after the other. And 557 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: it's that kind of mindset that is now in places 558 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: of power within the press, within the academy, and within 559 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: this and within the government at multiple levels of the bureaucracy, 560 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: and they're trying to weaponize everything around them. And that's 561 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: why they want to use these test case examples, whether 562 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: it's Alex Jones or Trump, to see how much can 563 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: they just purely politically weaponize the process, ignore all of 564 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: our customs, all of our traditions, all of our rules, 565 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: all of our respect for law, all of our constitutional constraints. 566 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: Can they just eviscerate them so that they can achieve 567 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: and attain their objective and use the any tool of 568 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: power they have around them, whether it's a human resources 569 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: or advertising department at a company, or it's an administrative 570 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: bureaucracy or local state court bench to get their political objectives. 571 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: And that and we are living without doubt in very 572 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: interesting times. Yeah, to say the least. So you said, 573 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: this is similar to the nineteen thirties. So sometimes I 574 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: have to try it. It It is like, let me, let me, 575 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: let me think about this logically, let me let me 576 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: look at this at a at a historical lens. Um. 577 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: There's many times throughout history where things have been much 578 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: worse than they are today. Um, from from every different 579 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: angle we want to look at um. And so you 580 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: said this is similar to the nineteen thirties. Another thing 581 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: I look at is again back to kind of my 582 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: original statement of a war of information. And so they 583 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: need to control the narrative. The Internet has caused them 584 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: to lose that narrative because now we can all converse 585 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: without their mainstream media. Now we see the rise of 586 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: the alternative news sources that are you know, beating them 587 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: in every angle. The Joe Rogans gained two hundred million views, um, etcetera. 588 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: And so if they're not able to control that, like 589 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: and Alex Jones, they did delete him off the face 590 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: of the earth, but yet he's still alive. So then 591 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: well what comes next? So I guess sue him into oblivion. 592 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: That's kind of the point that you made earlier. But 593 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: also if you look back in the US history, twice 594 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: in the last hundred years, they've made it illegal to 595 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: say anything critical of the state. Right was one the 596 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Smith Act, the Sedition Act, and so they could just 597 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: say it's a crime to say anything critical and they've 598 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: done it before. Do you see that being a reality 599 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: or a danger or is there anything that I'm missing 600 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: in that historical lens. Well that's where the January six 601 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: cases are very dangerous, as well as some of the 602 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: Trump cases, because what they're trying to do is re 603 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: invoke the specter of the Sedition Act. So the Sedition Act, 604 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: for people that don't know what you know, was pasted 605 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: during World War One and it was utilized and it 606 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: was a different variation. We first tried the alien and 607 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: sedition laws back in the right at the beginning of 608 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: the founding of the country. Rightfully, our core founding generation 609 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: got it stopped and reversed so that it never came 610 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: back again. And and and it took, you know, about 611 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: two hundred years before it actually came back again in 612 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: one way, shape or form. But it took at least 613 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: a hundred years before hundred twenty years or so before 614 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: it came back at all. And what happened was during 615 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: World War One, people forget. A presidential candidate was actually 616 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: put in prison, Eugene V. Debs for saying for only 617 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: for speech, he said he was opposed to World War 618 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: One and you opposed the draft. They called that sedition. 619 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: They locked him up, they put him in federal prison. 620 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: So they're looking to that. And when I started hearing 621 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: talking the January six cases of rather than treating it 622 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: as a jet a basic trespass riot case, which is 623 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: what almost all of the alleged criminal conduct could be 624 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: labeled as. And there's a lot of peculiarities about how 625 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: everything came about in that context, why the security was 626 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: strangely missing, why some security people were engaged in provocative 627 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: behavior at attacking the crowd. Uh, you know, the a 628 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: lot of people that went in there didn't realize it 629 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: was illegal because they showed up later and the doors 630 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: were opened and they're walking around. So there's all those issues. 631 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: There's whether or not the government was completely turns out 632 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: like over seventy or eighty undercover Feds were part of 633 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: the crowd from various information that's already come out, So 634 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reason to be suspect about what 635 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: really happened that day. But putting that aside, even in 636 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: the worst case interpretation of it, the behavior is behavior 637 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: that is just your old school trespass, rioty, disturbing the 638 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: peace kind of crimes. This happens on a regular basis 639 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: throughout America. Usually it's almost always the left doing it, 640 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, taking over a government building that was prominent 641 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: throughout the nineteen sixties, all those things that's you know, 642 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: it's disturbing the the piece, it's a trespass, etcetera. And 643 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden start talking about sedition and 644 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: obstruction and conspiracy, and I was like, whoa that. What 645 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: that is attempting to do is to use the January 646 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: six cases because it's another example where it's the District 647 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: of Columbia. So you got a corrupt jury pull at 648 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: the grand jury level, corrupt jury pull at the trial level. 649 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: A lot of judges who are part of the swamp 650 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: don't want to judge and govern and discipline the swamp. 651 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: The prosecutors are all connected to the swamp. Uh, So 652 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: you have a very corrupted system of justice, and they 653 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: want to take what they're doing in the District of 654 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: Columbia and export it everywhere across America. And that's scary 655 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: problem number one. Scary problem number two is they're using 656 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: the sedition laws to start to expand the prosecution. And 657 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: sedition laws are basically just speech laws. They really are 658 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: day that you engaged in a certain public protest or 659 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: public speech or other conduct, and consequently we're going to 660 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: call it a crime you can serve the rest of 661 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: your life in federal prison for because we don't like 662 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: the purpose upset speech. I've always considered the sedition laws 663 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: laws that are unconstitutional and never should have been allowed 664 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: to exist in the first place. We have we already 665 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: have criminal laws for treason, we have criminal laws for 666 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: everything on under the earth. Uh, that could possibly be 667 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: a crime. We don't need to create new criminal laws 668 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: that can be used to target and punished protests. But 669 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: that's exactly what this is. And and that and so 670 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: that that old sedition president is now coming back for 671 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: the first time in about a century a hundred years 672 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: by the in the January six cases. And that would 673 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: be something to watch because they want to use those 674 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: cases to establish a new precedent that they can accuse 675 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: anyone that is a has unapproved opinions that they consider 676 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: threatning to the government's well being as sedition, which is 677 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: super scary. Um. But um, I guess also I'm always 678 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: trying to find a sliver of hope here. Um. We 679 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: saw these Druconian measures and these crazy laws. To your point, 680 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware, but a presidential candidate went to prison 681 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: over speech. Um. But then it got repealed and things 682 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: got better. So we've seen things like this go in 683 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: before and get overturned. We're going back down the same 684 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: road again. Um. It's scary, but maybe it gets overturned 685 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: again at some point. Well, I I think it's up 686 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: to the people. I think the one restraining all of 687 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: these cases, whether it's the Alex Jones cases, Donald Trump case, 688 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: the January six cases, that the cryptocurrency area related cases 689 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: is it. It's all gonna be. It's all only gonna 690 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: change if the courts have either the confidence or the 691 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: courage to step forward, and that's only going to happen, 692 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: or the legislature has the ability and willingness to step forward. 693 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: That's only gonna happen if the court of public opinion 694 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: is sufficiently outrage. So when this was tried by corrupt 695 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: actors in the yearly eighteen hundreds into the and Sedition Acts, 696 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: it was public outrage that led to the repeal of 697 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: those laws when it was done to eugen v. Debs, 698 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: and then we had the Palmer raids in nineteen nineteen. 699 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: The the Jager Hoover used all of these political oriented 700 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: cases to rise to power and create the independent FBI 701 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: that now is one of the most corrupt institutions in 702 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: American law enforcement and the and the whole justice system. 703 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: What there was enough public outrage in the nineteen twenties 704 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: and nineteen thirties that all got repealed and pushed back 705 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: in the deep state drew back the nineteen seventies, the 706 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: same thing I mean, after we had when can it 707 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: be assassinated another Kennedy assassinated, a king, assassinated Malcolm X, 708 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: assassinated a president taken out in Nixon. Then that's when 709 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: there was enough public outrage about what's going on in 710 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: our government. That led to the mk Ultra investigations, the 711 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: assassination investigations, exposing the deep state, exposing the CIA, exposing 712 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: the NSA, exposing the FBI with cointel pro due to 713 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: the thing that media, So it always comes back to 714 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's the power and the will of 715 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: the people, because it's the fifth pillar power under all 716 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: the other pillars of power. If public perception falls, then 717 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: the whole system falls. So it's very matrix is in 718 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: that respect, and so it's the best way to defeat 719 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: the system. The best way to stop these abuses is 720 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: to take the red pill and give it to everybody else. 721 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: And if enough people get it, enough, people share it, enough, 722 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: people speak out about it, that's when things will change. Yeah, 723 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: I was as as you were talking about this, I 724 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: was thinking about this. Um. I was trying to find 725 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: the number here, but I can't remember top of my head. 726 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: But this was January. The House of Representatives and later 727 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: the Senate began reviewing a document entitled Communist Goals for 728 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: taking Over America to contained an agenda of forty five 729 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: separate issues um that in hindsight were quite shocking and 730 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: then equally setting today. So UM, I forget who the 731 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: president was, maybe was was whoever that was like taking 732 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: on communism, and then there was the McCarthy era whatever. 733 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, um, on January tenth, the House Represents received 734 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: this document and they had these forty five declared goals 735 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: of communism. Uh. Many of these what we've seen all 736 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: over the place, but one of which, I forget it's 737 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: down like number thirty or forty, was to discredit and 738 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: destroy the FBI, like lose all credibility of the FBI. Um. 739 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: And and that's kind of where we're at right now. 740 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: That's what we're seeing. Yeah, I mean, the FBI has 741 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: managed to do it to itself. So you had the 742 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: Feddle Bureau of Investigation created by Jaeger Hoover, and it 743 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: was always had a political bias, but it was political bias, 744 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: wasn't a partisan bias. And that's what's changed now the FB. 745 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: Like I just saw a Harvard poll yesterday, more than 746 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: half of Republicans don't like, don't trust, don't respect the FBI. 747 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: That's unimaginable Just five years ago. The biggest defenders of 748 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: the FBI have been your historical conservative Republican in America. 749 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: But what they've witnessed over the lad and this is 750 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: where they've made mistakes. They've overreached. Like if they had 751 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: had limited themselves to just uh, the January six cases, 752 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: they might have got away with it without much public 753 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: scrutiny or blowback. But when you go after Donald Trump, 754 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: a man who just won seventy five million votes, a 755 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: man who's the leading candidate to get the presidency in 756 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: four a man who has a has a the strongest 757 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: base of any American politician in the country and quite 758 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: sometime since probably Ronald Reagan, and the depth and intensity 759 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: of support of his audience, of his of his fans, 760 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: going back to that he he doesn't have viewers, Donald 761 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: Trump has fans. Um that that has backfired on them 762 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: politically inert and it's where if they were smart, they 763 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: would care about their public perception and step back from this. 764 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: But you have some The most dangerous thing we faced 765 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: currently is that the Court of public opinion might not 766 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: always be a check on these folks because they show 767 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: a lack of self restraint. Uh, they show a lack 768 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: of regard for the fact that they are being publicly 769 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: lambasted for their bad acts, and that makes them more 770 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: dangerous probably than they ever have been before. Yeah, it's 771 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: it's actually worse than that. And this kind of leads 772 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: me to the next topic I want to jump into, 773 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: which is um in the court of public opinion. To 774 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: your point, maybe doesn't matter to them anymore because exactly 775 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: what we're hearing in the United States. But also I 776 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: saw it come out of Europe yesterday, but we'll talk 777 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: about that. But basically what we're seeing in the United 778 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: States is that, uh per Biden's speech, he gave two speeches. 779 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: He gave one the one with the red background of 780 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: the Marines in the background. The one before that, a 781 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: few days before he said, oh, you Second Amendment supporters, 782 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: what chance do you think you have against us? We 783 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: have s six teens. So he's threatening Americans. That's pretty bold. 784 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: But what I see angling from that is, um, he's 785 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: basically saying, all you guys, your extremist with your views, Um, 786 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: you have no chance, and he's demoralizing people, say you 787 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: better just stand down, you stand no chance. Then went 788 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: into the next speech singling out MAGA Republicans and they're 789 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: the threat, they're the biggest danger, demonizing them, angling to 790 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: the point where I think it's setting up for this 791 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: indictment because what they're trying to do is demoralized people, 792 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: discredit people, and make magat people the worst. So nobody's 793 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna want to stand up formatt. Well, I'm against what 794 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: you're doing, but I don't want to stand up for 795 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: MAGA because you've said MAGA is bad. But even worse 796 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: than that, they're saying that it's a threat to our democracy. 797 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: And so they asked, uh, I saw a question was 798 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: asked of the White House Press Secretary Koree Pierre I 799 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: think her name is, And they said, so, what what 800 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: what defines this extremist? She said, Well, in extremist is 801 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: anyone that doesn't go along with the mainstream ideas. And 802 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: so what they're saying is, um, it's a threat to 803 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: our democracy if you don't like what we say. So 804 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: back to the point that you made the court the 805 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: court of public opinion, anyone in the public opinion doesn't 806 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: agree with and they say, well, you're a threat to 807 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: democrat you're not going along with mainstream, even though Biden 808 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: has a thirty eight percent approval ratings. So we could 809 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: argue who who is mainstream, But um, that's a very 810 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: dangerous president where they could ignore public perception because they 811 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: don't agree with what we want, So it must be 812 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: a threat to the democracy. It's very much sort of 813 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: safe space ideology now being expressed in institutions of power. 814 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: So it's it's the This is a whole generation of 815 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: people who have grown up believing that if you disagree, 816 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: then that makes you evil, that makes you bad, that 817 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: makes you dangerous, that makes you hurtful, that makes you harmful, etcetera. 818 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: It's what unites all of these threats, whether it's January 819 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: six or Alex Jones or Donald Trump or Crypto all 820 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: the rest. It's there's something hurtful, something harmful about your speech, 821 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: and thus you are an extremist if you're advocating such 822 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: hurtful and harmful speech. Also, their idea of democracy is 823 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: a crop that they don't believe in democracy. When they 824 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 1: say democracy, they mean them having all the power. And 825 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: now the rest of the world has been saying this 826 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: for over a hundred years. They say, when America comes 827 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: talking about democracy, they mean American power controlling our society 828 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: and our economy and our resources and our politicians. They 829 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: don't mean actual democracy. Patrice Lamumbo gets elected, we helped 830 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: coordinate his killing a year later in nineteen six one, 831 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: and uh in in Africa with the great democratic Hope 832 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: at the done. Uh. You know, we believe in democracy 833 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: so much we facilitated and enabled and entrapped Nelson Mandela 834 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: for arrest. So the rest of the world knows that 835 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: America's when it says democracy doesn't mean democracy. But now 836 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: the American people are discovering that too, that the American 837 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: leaders don't mean democracy, they mean their governance. That you 838 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: are challenging our ability to control your life, and that 839 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: makes you a dangerous extremist with hurtful and harmful speech 840 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: who must be excluded from polite society. They've been weaponizing 841 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: the vaccine mandates as an example to go after and 842 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: get rid of any closet Trump supporter or really closet 843 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: free speech supporters, closet liberty supporter out of the government. 844 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been getting I've been hearing from people 845 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 1: in every aspect of government, even some aspects that people 846 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: might find surprising, the institutions they work for where they're 847 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: being purged under the guise of a vaccine mandate. And 848 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: so it's the same things. No dissident speech allowed. Any 849 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: dissident speech must be banned, must be prohibited, people must 850 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: be fired for it. But people must be removed from 851 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: power from it. They must be labeled and socially stigmatized. 852 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: It's very much nineteen thirties. It's very much Communist Stasi 853 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: Germany kind of style of approach. And it's and and 854 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: they're using the FBI and top law enforcement like the 855 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: Soviet Union used the KGB in the East German Communist 856 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: Republic used the Stasi. It's gonna it's it's almost all parallels, 857 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: one after the other after the other after the other. 858 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: The press control, the communication, control, the speech control, the 859 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: weaponization of civil justice, show trials, the weaponization of criminal 860 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: justice powers, the stow social stigmatization to anybody who's a 861 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: dissident independent thought. It's almost identical to the list you 862 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: went through. We're seeing it in lifetime that social stickmatizations. 863 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: So if you look at the Bolshevik Revolution. You look 864 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: at Mao's great leap forward or hit or whatever you want. 865 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: But like a MoU's great leap forward, um, they had 866 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: the Red Army, and the Red army was the people. 867 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: It was the people turning on the other people. The 868 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: government and the military can't control the people, so they 869 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: need to get the people to turn on each other. 870 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: And Mao had reflected and said, Wow, I can't believe 871 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: how vicious and violent these read these uh these people are. 872 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: He did nothing to stop it, of course, But if 873 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: they can get um, if they can if they can 874 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: stigmatize to the word you use, um maga republicans, I mean, 875 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: who would want to make America great? I mean, how 876 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: dare you make one? I mean to to even to 877 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: even stigmatize that word. But if they could make if 878 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: they get the public people to turn against each other 879 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: and stigmatize them, then people don't want to stand up 880 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: one and two. I mean it. I think we're already 881 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: starting to see the violence. I mean it could get 882 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: really bad. Oh no, no, it's collective punishment. And I 883 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: say I encourage people to look at how the Ukrainian 884 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: government is governing, because that's also an example of what 885 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: they would like to see. And there what do you 886 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: see in Ukraine? You see collective punishment of dissidents, You 887 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: see complete suppression of speech, you see locking up of 888 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: the press, you see complete banning of opposition. They took 889 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: their opponent posing leader, locked them up in prison and 890 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: then bragged about it on national TV. They shut down 891 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: any independent press that exists, while awash with all forms 892 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: of corruption, deep state collusion, and excessive war. So Ukraine 893 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: is what the West will convert their own countries and 894 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: societies into if they could, and it should be a 895 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: warning sign to the rest of us that we are 896 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: ultimately the the key barrier to them being able to 897 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: pull off what they want to pull off. And as 898 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: long as enough people resist and push back their agenda 899 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: and do so through lawful and peaceful and democratic and 900 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: constitutional means, that we can sustain our constitutional experiment of 901 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: liberty and freedom a little bit longer, of course, which 902 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: is exactly why they're trying to take it. Uh take 903 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: it over. Um, So first, rip out the tongues so 904 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: they can't say anything, don't allow any kind of public 905 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: discourse to remove any kind of legal protection or precedence 906 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: or constitutional protection, um. And then you know, once no 907 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 1: one can talk anymore, and once there's no more protection, 908 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: I guess than they can have their way. I was 909 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: thinking about, UM. So, I recently published a book. It's 910 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: on Amazon last month, is titled The Uncommunist Manifesto. So 911 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: basically took the Communist Manifesto and just kind of rewrote it, 912 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: and it's called the Uncommunist Manifesto. UM and so thinking 913 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 1: a lot about communism and how communism seems like it's 914 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 1: this old word, but really it's just all just been rebranded. Right. 915 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: So in the original Communist Manifesto, Carl Marks that to 916 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: summarize communism in one statement would be the abolition of 917 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: private property. Today we have claud Schwab at the Weft 918 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: saying you'll own nothing and be happy. Uh right. We 919 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: had communism or socialism was the state controlling the means 920 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: of production. Today from the Weft we see this public 921 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: private partnership. And I think about this public private partnership 922 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: where we now have. Zuckerberg told Rogan that, you know, 923 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: the FBI came and talked to them, and um, Twitter 924 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: had to put back on Alex Bernson because they found 925 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: out through discovery that the government somehow deministrative had had 926 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: pressured them to get him off, etcetera. So you kind 927 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: of have this public private partnership where the private side 928 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: is the social media, etcetera. Let's let's wipe him off 929 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: the face of the earth. Uh. And then if that 930 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: doesn't work for the people that get through that filter, 931 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: the alex Jones, that still won't go away, Well that's 932 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: where the public side comes in. And now we'll use 933 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: the weapon of the d o J, the FBI or 934 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: whatever against them. Yeah. Completely. And it's the way they 935 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: they see power differently than our founding generation in the 936 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: ordinary American we look at power and we see what 937 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: purpose does it serve, what principal can in advance, and 938 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: what restraints must operate within, and what methodology of approach 939 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: of making decisions will be the best one. Over time 940 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: they see power, they see any of these things, and 941 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: they simply see a tool, a tool to be used 942 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: for their objective and agenda. And it doesn't matter what 943 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: it is. This is why you have these people doing 944 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 1: things that College and missions screwing people over at college 945 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: and missions for political reasons, excluding students. Uh. For for 946 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: these reasons, people getting not getting promotions, getting emotions getting fired. Uh, 947 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 1: in the employment context, advertising choices being made and marketing 948 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: choices being made, and YouTube algorithm choices being made, and 949 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: movie and TV choices being made, and book publishing choices 950 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: being made. At every level of power, they see, how 951 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: can I use this as a tool to advance my agenda, 952 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: regardless of what that power is for, So the power 953 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: supposed to have independent literary cultural value, they don't care. 954 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: They see it as, oh, this is a means to 955 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: get people to do what I want. If an employment 956 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: is supposed to be about the job and whether you're 957 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: qualified to do it, they don't care. They see, this 958 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: is an opportunity for me to advance my political agenda. 959 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: And once you understand that, you can predict where they're 960 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna go. And it is a very frightening place. I mean, 961 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned the the the V for Vendetta President speech 962 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: that Biden where they literally took the background in the 963 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: set from V for Vendetta where the guy is up there. 964 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: You know, he even he even did the screaming bit. 965 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, he even did that bit, you know the 966 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the almost exactly like it. And it's it's 967 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: because they see they watched movies like and B for 968 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: Vendetta and they think, golly, gee, wouldn't it be great 969 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: if we could be that government? You know, I mean 970 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: they totally perverse mindset. But that's why we have to resist, 971 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: because that's who these people are. Yeah, do you think, um, so, 972 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: now we have all this censorship we talked about, you know, 973 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: Andrew Tate getting deleted obviously, Alex Jones being the kind 974 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: of poster child for that. Um But now we've you know, 975 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: we see it. It's volatile, right. So then Alex Bernson, 976 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: he got wiped off the face of Twitter because of 977 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: talking about COVID, but now they had to let him 978 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: back on. So now he's back, and now it seems 979 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of open talk about that stuff 980 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: supposedly now, which is pretty interesting. But we're also seeing 981 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: the rise of these, you know, the growth of these 982 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: alternative platforms, the parlors, the rumbles, etcetera. Um, I mean, 983 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 1: do you think they'll they'll probably continue to attack those 984 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: right again, going back to kind of controlling the Free speech, 985 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: Sedition Act, etcetera. I mean, they didn't to shut it 986 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: all off, so even those other platforms, as as as 987 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: they may be popping up. Uh, probably won't be allowed 988 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: to stick around for much longer. I think they're they're 989 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna have some hurdles because the key was how to 990 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: fight back intelligently. And so Elon Musk simply talking about 991 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: and trying to buy Twitter, and now they're in lawsuits 992 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: because it turned out Twitter has a lot more bots 993 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: than they were admitting. So he thinks he over he 994 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: overbought it. Now what he may get out of that 995 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: is a much deeper discount and haircut and still end 996 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: up owing it. But as soon as he talked about 997 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: buying it, all of a sudden, Twitter became a lot 998 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: less than sorious for a period of time. Still a 999 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: lot of censorship that takes place, but not to the 1000 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: same scale as you know. Now you look at Rumble, 1001 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: Rumble is a meaningful competitor because of who is investing 1002 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: in Rumble. It's now public news at the Wall Street 1003 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: Journal put out there Peter thal jd Vance a bunch 1004 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: of people like that, people with political influence, people with 1005 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: strong economic ties, people with deep resources. Right now, in fact, 1006 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: Rumble has sued Google in that case is going into 1007 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,280 Speaker 1: the discovery age. So because Rumble planned a certain approach, 1008 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: a disciplined, methodological approach to being able to uh meaningfully 1009 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 1: compete and provide an independent platform. It's gonna be very 1010 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: hard for Google and YouTube and the rest to take 1011 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: him out. It's gonna be very hard for them to 1012 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: remove them from the store. They're already like the various apps. 1013 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: That's their current monopolistic source of control is the control 1014 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: of apps on phones and and on laptops Apple and Google. 1015 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: That's one of the key places that needs to be 1016 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: attacked and legally to to stop that monopolistic power from 1017 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: continuing to be able to use for speech control purposes. 1018 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 1: But I think the approach Rumble is taking. I mean, 1019 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: Russell brand is announced he's gonna be doing exclusive things, 1020 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other people saying they're gonna be 1021 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: doing exclusive things on Rumble. Rumble continues to upgrade and 1022 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: improve it's technology, it's technological capacity and capability. Run by 1023 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: Chris Pavlovski, who's deeply personally committed to creating a free 1024 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: speech space that's independent and separate from cancel culture. I 1025 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: think Rumble maybe a meaningful competitor, and I don't think 1026 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: they'll be able to take him out and that's one 1027 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,959 Speaker 1: of the best white pills in recent time period during 1028 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: this era. Yeah, so I see, I see light and 1029 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: what I see, as you said, we need to get 1030 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: this court of public opinion to turn. Obviously they understand that. 1031 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: So that's their attack vector. So that's part of this 1032 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: Viva Vendetta's speech is trying to attack the public perception. 1033 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: But at the same time, um, you know, just back 1034 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: to entertain The one thing I was thinking is, um, 1035 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: he was he was growing so fast. He was adding 1036 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: over a hundred thousand people per day on Instagram, a 1037 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people a day, and he has a message 1038 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: that's very similar to um, to Jordan Peterson's, which is, 1039 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: suck it up, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. So 1040 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: what if you got dealta bad hand, it's the hand 1041 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: you have, Play it the best you can. You know, uh, 1042 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: slap yourself. It's up to you kind of a thing 1043 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: like that. And that's obviously a totally different message than 1044 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: what we get from mainstream media, which is it's okay, 1045 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: you're a victim. You can never get ahead. And UM, 1046 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: what I see both from the Rise of Jordan Peterson 1047 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: and with Andrew Tait is like there's a need for that, 1048 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: like people want that, and so there's this massive market, 1049 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: which of course why I want to shut down. But 1050 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: that's encouraging. You mentioned Elon must trying to buy Twitter 1051 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: when he put that bid in, and it was all 1052 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: about opening up for free speech. So it's really to 1053 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: me it was like this free speech the pride. The 1054 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 1: Twitter stock jumped big time with gain at a time 1055 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: when the rest of the markets were dropping. That again 1056 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: shows there's this massive thirst for freedom of speech. The 1057 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 1: price drove up, um, the rise of rumble. So there's 1058 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: all these things. So I do see light, I do 1059 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: see hope. Um. But at the same time, man, they're 1060 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: coming after us hard. It's coming after us hard. I 1061 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: made the comment to my wife a couple of weeks ago, 1062 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 1: and I said, uh, I think there's above average chance 1063 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 1: within the next two years I might not be able 1064 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: to be in the United States doing what I'm doing, 1065 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: maaning being critical of the government. Um, what's your under 1066 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: over on that. Where do you think we're going in 1067 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Well, the way I put 1068 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,720 Speaker 1: it is, there's no great hero story without a great villain, 1069 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: and we definitely have a great villain and The only 1070 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: question is how many of us are going to be 1071 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: capable of being great heroes. Because I think that capacity 1072 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 1: is there, we are going to face a lot worse. 1073 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,479 Speaker 1: They are doing things they've never done before. They're trying 1074 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: to establish precedents they've never utilized before. That means they're 1075 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,399 Speaker 1: coming for the rest of us. Alex Jones is again 1076 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: the canary in the coal mine. They're going after the 1077 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: president the United States. That answers all your questions about 1078 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: what's the chances they go after me if you they 1079 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: see you as a threat? They answer is high. But 1080 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: the upside of this is it presents an opportunity for 1081 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: people to prove the courage of their character. You know, 1082 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: Poncho Villa'd rather die on my feet than live on 1083 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: my knees. Provides a lot of you know, med You're 1084 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 1: Evers said. You know, most men die a thousand deaths 1085 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: every day. I'm only gonna die once it. You know, 1086 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 1: great adversary, great evil presents an opportunity for great courage, 1087 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 1: great honor, and great truth. And we're all going to 1088 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: get the opportunity. And the American people and the people 1089 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 1: around the world are going to get the chance to 1090 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,399 Speaker 1: show that, and I still have my I love to bet. 1091 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm a gambler by nature. I like sports betting, I 1092 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: like political betting, you name it. I will always bet 1093 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: on the conscience and the soul and the heart and 1094 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: the mind of the ordinary, everyday person to resist this 1095 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: and to maintain the fight for freedom and liberty moving forward. 1096 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 1: So good, so good. I don't want to add anything 1097 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: on to that. I think that's a good place for 1098 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: us to break because, um, that's a that's a that's 1099 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: a message of hope. It's a message to rally behind. 1100 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: And I think, um, yeah, unfortunately we have heroes rise up. Unfortunately, 1101 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: also have martyrs in the movement. Um and uh, but 1102 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: I think when we stand up for ideologies, it's stronger 1103 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: than anything that the other side can throw at you. 1104 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: So you you said it perfectly with that, will Ben 1105 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: and sign it off. Robert. Um, you know I'm gonna 1106 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: link to your Twitter. I know you're super active on there. 1107 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: Anything else you want to call attention to, everyone should Yeah. 1108 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: If people want to find all the content any and 1109 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: also be part of a community that shares similar in 1110 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: first as we've been discussing today, they can get that 1111 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: at Viva Barnes Law dot locals dot com and what 1112 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: is that. It's a locals community, so Locals as part 1113 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: of it was owned by Rumble. It's an independent platform 1114 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: to replace Patreon or play, subscribe to are and really 1115 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: replace Facebook. So people get to make their own post, 1116 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: I post, exclude, I post a Barnes Brief. There every day. 1117 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: That's curated news and information content from across the globe. 1118 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: We do exclusive videos. They have a hush a series 1119 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: called Hush Hush, which is about the alternative interpretation of 1120 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: events various conspiracy theories that have been debated over time, 1121 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: everything from the Kennedy assassination to the moon landing. We 1122 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: discuss and debate book reviews, movie reviews. But also people 1123 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: get to interact with one another. They get to post themselves, 1124 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: they get to comment, and it creates a community free 1125 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: of algorithmic manipulation, free of subject matters, censorship, free of 1126 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: trolls and harassers and stalkers, where people really get to 1127 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: share ideas about how do they make the world a 1128 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: better place in these very unique times we face. That's awesome. 1129 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: Everyone should check it out. We're gonna make sure it's 1130 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: linked down below. And with that we'll sign it off. 1131 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Robert, Thanks everybody than