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Speaker 1: Hello there, everybody, and welcome to tech Stuff. My name

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Speaker 1: is Chris Pollette. I'm an editor here at how stuff

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Speaker 1: as senior writer Jonathan Strijour though, Hey, and uh so

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Speaker 1: today we're gonna be talking about bit torrent, yes, which

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Speaker 1: has been in the news recently at the time of

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Speaker 1: called the Pirate Bay, which underwent a trial and got

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Speaker 1: a guilty verdict. And uh we'll get into that a

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Speaker 1: really it's it's a file distribution method right, yep. As

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