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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always going back for

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Speaker 1: seconds and thirds.

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Speaker 2: That's right, a trio of games on this Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in my garage, joined for the first

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Speaker 1: time by ed Intercontinental Thanksgiving guests. Yes, it's Will Gavin.

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Speaker 1: It's already Friday in the UK. Will Gavin from Talk Sport.

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Speaker 1: If you listen to what some people called the most

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Speaker 1: insane recap of the year back in week six, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for staying up early or late whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: Will and talking.

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Speaker 2: About these games with me.

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Speaker 3: H No, absolutely love it. Thanks for having me. I

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Speaker 3: do feel like mentioning going up for seconds or thirds

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Speaker 3: feels like a direct shot at me before we've even

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Speaker 3: seen Oh, but you know I can take it on

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Speaker 3: the chin and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: No, it is absolutely not. It's what I did tonight.

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Speaker 1: And we just had a lot of great bread products.

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Speaker 1: I think we overloaded, which you gotta have. But we

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Speaker 1: have two different types of cornbread because Todter wanted to

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Speaker 1: make one. Then we had some biscuits and just like

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Speaker 1: I did not feel well a couple hours ago, but

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Speaker 1: I feel better now. We have three fun games to

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Speaker 1: talk about, maybe at the very end, but we'll talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about our Thanksgiving. I'm curious what

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Speaker 1: it's like to be a Brett watching these games. But first,

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Speaker 1: let let's start with the night game, because maybe it

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Speaker 1: wasn't the best game of the day, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's the most important to.

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Speaker 4: Lamba loving the shotgown of the setback John Jacobs to

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Speaker 4: his right, snamp get fake to Jacob's quick toss, green upside,

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Speaker 4: quick to touch a shown Benjup touchdown Shaden Reid his

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Speaker 4: second touchdown of the life.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty to three the Green Bay. Yes, Jaden Reid

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Speaker 2: getting it done.

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Speaker 1: He just dial up all the best plays for Jaden

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Speaker 1: that got it to twenty one to three. In the

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Speaker 1: second half, the Packers go on to win thirty to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: That was Wayne Larvie, of course from wrn W in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. Packers get that big lead. And maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: just start with read because as I was watching this game,

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Speaker 1: will I had a theory and it's like Jaden Reid

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Speaker 1: is Matt Lafleur's muse. He always comes up with the

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Speaker 1: good stuff for and Jaden Reid always executed it. They

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Speaker 1: showed a stat that Jade Reid now has as many

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Speaker 1: touchdowns or more than any Packer in history in his

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Speaker 1: first two years as a receiver. And you think of

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Speaker 1: that touchdown, beautiful blocking. The receivers do a great job

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Speaker 1: blocking all season long. They get read into the end

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Speaker 1: zone on a nice swing pass and they have another

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Speaker 1: the first read touchdown on a play where he makes

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Speaker 1: it like he's run blocking for a couple of seconds.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd call it trickery, but very creative,

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Speaker 1: and then he spins out and Love puts it perfect

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Speaker 2: Reid had a nice run earlier in the game.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's not the biggest, big picture take here,

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Speaker 1: but Matt Lafleur always seems to know how to use

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Speaker 1: his best, and that's kind of Lafleur's magic with his

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Speaker 2: This offense was humming tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, just two catches in that first half, but

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Speaker 3: both of them touchdowns. And you mentioned the blocking down field.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you feel like this is a receiving

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Speaker 3: corps and an entire Packers offense that finally starting to

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Speaker 3: last couple of games. I A lot of that is

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Speaker 3: is to do with Josh Jacobs. I'm sure we'll come

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Speaker 3: being very doubtful, and it was very much like a

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Speaker 3: fantasy thing where people are taking him mid rounds, even

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Speaker 3: earlier rounds. I'm like, okay, so this guy was good

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Speaker 3: last year, but he had what twelve plus touchdowns. That's

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Speaker 3: if you're just relying on that, that's never going to happen.

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Speaker 3: But he is a guy who can have two catches

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Speaker 3: He did have the great end a round play as well,

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Speaker 3: that twenty three yard on the ground, which really helped

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Speaker 3: boosts he's night. But it's amazing you come out of

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Speaker 2: That he's what your guy Devo used to be.

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Speaker 1: Not to bring up any sort of subjects for a

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Speaker 1: he's a lot lighter in a different style of player,

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Speaker 1: but there aren't that many players that can impact a

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Speaker 1: like you said, have four touches tonight, two for touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and one that run was the best run that anyone

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Speaker 1: my theory is that Jane Reid is Matt Lafleur's muse.

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Speaker 1: He always comes up with the good stuff for Jayden Reid.

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Speaker 1: Christian Watson, on the other hand, I believe is Jordan

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Speaker 1: loves muse because two catches for Christian Watson tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's it on four targets.

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Speaker 1: But those two throw those were absolutely incredible by Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: The deep one down the sideline that just shows off

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Speaker 1: Love's arm strength and then another key one on the

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Speaker 1: John Gruden used to talk about between the zone, the

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Speaker 1: to make his best passes to Christian Watson. Watson doesn't

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Speaker 1: always catch him. There was probably a PI on a

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Speaker 1: it kind of shows off what Love can do. And

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Speaker 1: it's just this group of players that are very cohesive.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, they have an identity. Even on

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Speaker 1: a night where they didn't have Romeo Dobbs on the field,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that deep shot on the third and sixth in

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Speaker 3: was not it was it like a proper bulls. He

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Speaker 3: play cool. The way he steps up in the pocket,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned the defense passing in France because

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Speaker 3: what a dreadful cool that was. And Matt Lafloor made

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Speaker 3: giving the referees just that much stake was looking.

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Speaker 2: No, because that was his moment. That was Lafleur moment.

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Speaker 1: And so if you didn't watch the game and you're

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Speaker 1: tuning in on Friday to listen to this, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much.

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Speaker 2: We love you.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty to seventeen, and yes the game seems all

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Speaker 1: but over. It's two minutes and ten seconds left, probably

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Speaker 1: when they snapped that ball something like that, but they're

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Speaker 1: got this howitzer, that's just this thing of beauty.

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Speaker 2: Let's take our.

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Speaker 1: Shot right now and give the fans something fun to

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Speaker 1: leave and stick it to our old friend Mike McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: I love coaches like that, Like Matt Lafleur was gonna

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Speaker 1: let his players have some fun.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work, but it was worth it. I'd get

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Speaker 2: mad too. I did.

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Speaker 3: I did thoroughly enjoy. And when I say thoroughly enjoy,

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Speaker 3: I mean that with as much dripping British sarcasm as

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Speaker 3: humanly possible, because I didn't enjoy much that Jason Garrett

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Speaker 3: love him when Saran Neil came across and contacted him

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Speaker 3: horribly early for one of the most obvious defensive past inferience,

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Speaker 3: like it was textbook. It was like teaching tape past

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Speaker 3: did maybe get there a little earlier. That's just like,

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Speaker 2: Didn't you like about Garrett?

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Speaker 1: I have a lot to get to with this game,

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Speaker 1: because what a what a no show for the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: that while we're giving the Packers some credit after tap.

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Speaker 1: But what didn't you like about Jason Garrett?

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Speaker 3: I think after three hours of Tom Brady just hating life,

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Speaker 3: in the NFL this season, but doing it with a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun, I just needed Jason Garrett to be

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Speaker 3: just in a bit of fun, thanksgiving more or to

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Speaker 3: just give us the tiniest bit of insight. But what

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Speaker 3: he did on almost every play was took exactly what

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Speaker 3: a more flowery way, like not once did we sear

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Speaker 3: anything that was like actually delivering you anything that you learned,

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Speaker 3: Like this is a guy who was a head coach

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Speaker 3: absolutely nothing about the game management, absolutely nothing about the

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Speaker 3: play design, absolutely and I just I did I found

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Speaker 3: it tough love. I'm not gonna love it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep Will up till four in the morning, Like,

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Speaker 2: give him something, give them something. I liked the cutting

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Speaker 3: Can I just say that there there's one other Christian

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't show up in a two score win

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Speaker 3: late on, people don't pay attention to it later. But

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Speaker 3: it just told me a lot about the way that

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Speaker 3: never giving up on plays, about we talked about it,

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Speaker 3: the way the receivers block down field. It just said

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Speaker 3: to me, like, this is an offense that isn't going

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't think the Packers have played to

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Speaker 1: their potential. They haven't played many complete games. This was

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Speaker 1: one of their best games of the season. But I

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Speaker 1: have been excited to watch them because Love he is

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Speaker 1: a roller coaster. Now this is two straight games for

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Speaker 1: him without a interception, and he had one in every

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Speaker 1: game before this, so that's a positive sign. Their running

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Speaker 1: game is so dynamic, so diverse, and it really didn't

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Speaker 1: get going today. Josh Jacobs talked about it afterwards. He

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Speaker 1: was held a forty three yards on the ground on

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Speaker 2: But Chris Brooks had some runs. Emanuel Wilson had some runs.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest plays of the game, actually, I

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Speaker 1: thought was they trusted their running game enough to hand

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: And then they fail on that on that conversion, and

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Speaker 1: Like actually, I'm not gonna apologize. We're having fun and

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Speaker 1: You've been beautiful the last three weeks. Like yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: This shit, I totally agree, that's been on my radar.

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Speaker 3: tweet work for them? Yeah? Did tweet pointing out that,

438
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: you know, Tyer Hill's getting twenty six million dollars this year,

439
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 3: Jalen Word is getting twenty million dollars this year. The

440
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 3: Packers leading seven receivers are getting eight million dollars between them. Like,

441
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 3: I know those guys are going to now be getting

442
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 3: paid as we get towards the end of the season.

443
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 3: And you know, there was so much talk for so

444
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 3: long about them not taking your first round receiver and

445
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: just taking these mid round guys, but it's showing out,

446
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 3: and like, it just shows that play design and coaching

447
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 3: makes a huge difference. And you were absolutely right. Mike

448
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: McDonald's deserves more like the football nerd. Of course, I

449
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 3: love Mike McDonald's, all football nerds do. But like they

450
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: him and the front office deserve a lot of stick

451
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 3: for not making this team work without tour, for not

452
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 3: having a backup ox for a guy who is so

453
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Speaker 3: injury prone. And you know, this is a season where

454
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Speaker 3: they could definitely be a playoff team based on everything

455
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: they've got on their roster, and they're probably going to

456
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: peter out and end up what like eight nine ten

457
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Speaker 3: somewhere around that point. And it's disappointing.

458
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Speaker 5: It is.

459
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 2: They missed a lot of tackles tonight. The Packers had

460
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty two yards after miss tackles. The

461
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 2: success rate for the Packers on the ground actually made

462
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: us to be forty percent, which is fine. In the

463
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: Dolphins were much much lower. Again, you're not beating the allegations.

464
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: You know who is?

465
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who has allegations for Josh Jagbas right now,

466
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: probably no one. Let's listen to that. The call of

467
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: his big reception in the second half.

468
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Speaker 3: I'm first and.

469
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 4: Two tight ends in the game.

470
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: Melton in motion to the left, glove.

471
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: Tapes, takes the handoff to Jacob, steps up in the pocket,

472
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: dumps it off left side, and he's got Jacob flip

473
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Speaker 4: a fender forty U fifty to the forty five to

474
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: forty pikes of tackle thirty five thirty, then taken down.

475
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: Beside the twenty yard line. My goodness, Josh Jacob's wood

476
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: enough go down.

477
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Speaker 1: Oh that's a great call and just one of my

478
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: favorite moves I've seen all season.

479
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 2: The way he made dots and that was who it was.

480
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 4: Fly.

481
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: David Long was involved there too, right, No, David lug

482
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: got cut. What am I saying? I saw David Long

483
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: earlier in the day on the Lions.

484
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Speaker 4: Uh.

485
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: That was just a sweet, sweet play by a Packers

486
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: team who came together at this time last year.

487
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Speaker 5: Will.

488
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Speaker 2: I know, they haven't been great all year, but they've

489
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: been winning while being a little confusing. They're nine to three.

490
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Speaker 1: In any other situation like year, they'd be like, hey,

491
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Speaker 1: maybe we'll get the two seed. They got some work

492
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Speaker 1: to do just to be the you know, number two

493
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Speaker 1: team in their own division. They're at Detroit next week

494
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Jordan Rodrigue is going to do that

495
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: recap with me. That is one of the games of

496
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Speaker 1: the year so far, and they absolutely have the pieces

497
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: to get better and play their best down the stretch,

498
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: and they'll need to because they have some tough road

499
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: games Lions, Seahawks, and Vikings all on the road down

500
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Speaker 1: the stretch.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm aware we're going super long on this game.

502
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: But Josh Jacob's like unreal contact, balanced, sensational to break

503
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: that tackle, and obviously I saw he did to the

504
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: forty nine ers last week in a season where we

505
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: got Derek Kenrian Secon Barkley, it's hard to look beyond

506
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: those two. Is like free agent running backs when you

507
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 3: can say how well he's done there, and how well

508
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones has done over in Minnesota as well. Like

509
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Speaker 3: the running backs back baby.

510
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Speaker 1: It is absolutely back and he has been a huge

511
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Speaker 1: part of that team. And I can't wait to watch

512
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Speaker 1: this team the rest of the way because I think

513
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is getting more and more confident there. There's

514
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: a couple throws he was under control today, but the

515
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: throw he made when he was on the run to read,

516
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: all it did was set up a field goal to

517
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Speaker 1: be shorter, to take a three score lead in the

518
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You know, move the ball to down to

519
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: the four yard line. But that is one of the

520
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: best throws you will ever see. The arm strength he

521
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: has while throwing on a total run and then read

522
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: one hands it. That's just like, hey, our athletes are

523
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: better than your athletes. The Packers have some great athletes.

524
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Speaker 1: All right, we still have a lot to get to.

525
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and we will finish our

526
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Speaker 2: recap after them.

527
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: The Williams with ten seconds to go in the game.

528
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: Williams with seven Williams with six takes the snap. This

529
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: could be the final play of the game, throws it

530
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 3: deep down field. It is a game incomplete.

531
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Speaker 4: That's it.

532
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Speaker 6: That's it.

533
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: That's it.

534
00:24:52,720 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: What in the world for the games? It's over about

535
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: the wall to Clark, this manager, even over Dan Miller.

536
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: Lomas brown Well said on WXYT, what are the Bears thinking?

537
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: Matt Eberfluse is the answer for Lomas brown the Lions escape.

538
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: That game was sitting there for the Bears to steal.

539
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: At the very end twenty three to twenty Caleb Williams

540
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: moving the ball down the field, and if you were

541
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Speaker 1: around a television at all today you probably know the circumstances.

542
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: But he was sacked will with thirty two seconds left.

543
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: They had a time out, they were in field goal range.

544
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: Cairo Santos said after the game. I was ready to

545
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: go kick it right there from fifty eight yards. That's

546
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: in my range if I needed to. They not only

547
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: never got any closer for a kick, they never kicked

548
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: at all. They never use the time out. They waste

549
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: all that time and then Caleb throws it down the field.

550
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: One of the worst end of game sequences' you'll ever

551
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: see I got.

552
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: There's a really funny video that was tweeted out by

553
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 3: Sean Hammond the Bears beat right at halftime of Kyra

554
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: Santos out taking long field goals while Shaboozi was doing

555
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: the halftime show, like just out of camera shot and

556
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: it's well worth going looking at because it's very, very funny.

557
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: But Cayra Santos when he meant he was ready, he

558
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: meant he was ready to go, And I like, we

559
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: got on toweb flues and we'll get onto the Williams

560
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: of it, but I do think it is worth teeing

561
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: up slightly is we talk. We'll talk aboute Williams performance

562
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: overall in this game that on the first and ten

563
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: from the twenty five yard line, he had DJ Moore

564
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: streaking across the formation and if he throws that with

565
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: even the tiniest modicum of anticipation, just gets that ball

566
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Speaker 3: out a second earlier and ahead of his man, it's

567
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: six points and Neyver won this game of football, and

568
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: none of this ever happens. Instead, he throws it into

569
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: his feet, he throws it late, and then they get

570
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: sacked by his area Smith on the next play and

571
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: we all know now what happens from that point onwards.

572
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: I think Eba flush deserves all of the stick that

573
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: he's getting. I totally get it. But what I've seen

574
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: that's been I think really interesting, has been a lot

575
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: of people saying, right, I think they had two options. Right,

576
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 3: they either take the time out straight away, they get

577
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: their heads clear, they get their best play to get

578
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 3: the ball to the sideline and get it out of bounds,

579
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: or to the middle of the field and spike it.

580
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 3: In times they can go and take the field goal right,

581
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: or they let they do what they did, They let

582
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: the play run down, try and get the ball over

583
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: the middle, and then take the time out. I don't

584
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: know what the play was they decided to run. Was

585
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: was absolutely bizarre going for it all. But I've seen

586
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: a lot of people saying, like, why isn't Eba Flus

587
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: calling the time out once it's clear that Caleb Williams

588
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: is in his own heads. He's getting to the line

589
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: of scrimmage at thirteen seconds, he's not snapping the ball

590
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: to six seconds, and he's trying to read this infense

591
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning style. It's like, you can't have that middle ground.

592
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: If he calls that time out with ten seconds remaining,

593
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: you're still left with a situation way you've gone, so.

594
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: It would be better you could just kick You could

595
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: just kick it. I mean everyone would kill him there.

596
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: I agree, that's a weird thing to criticize, like take it,

597
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: you should have taken it with ten thirteen seconds left,

598
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: something like that. There's a big blame pie here, and

599
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams he will be better in that situation in

600
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: a couple of years, probably in a couple of weeks

601
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: after going through that.

602
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: He absolutely deserves a big part of that. He's out

603
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: there changing the place.

604
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: They actually get lined up with about sixteen seventeen seconds left,

605
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: so I think, which it's crazy because then they don't

606
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: snap it for another nine seconds. They like sit there

607
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: with over the ball for ten seconds, which is absolutely crazy.

608
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: He ridiculous.

609
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: He kind of lost his mind in that moment, and

610
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: it is. It is tricky, but that's why you take

611
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: the time out in the first place. I hope a

612
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: listener reminds me of what I'm thinking of. There was

613
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: like a very subtle situation that was so similar in

614
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, and I didn't have my

615
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: family here, I would have I would have poured it

616
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: through and try to figure it out. But it was

617
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: a very similar situation where it happened. And so many

618
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: times in these late game situations. I believe that one

619
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: was with maybe forty to fifty seconds left, but the

620
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: coach immediately used the time out because you just know

621
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Speaker 1: after a satn unexpected sack like that where you backed

622
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: up ten yards, it is very difficult to get everything

623
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Speaker 1: under control and know what you're supposed to do and

624
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: know what play to call, and so you call a

625
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: time out right away because you know you have a

626
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and you have thirty plus seconds there, and

627
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: now you can't spike the ball after a throw over

628
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: the middle. So that's why what Matt Eberflu said after

629
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: the game in his mind sounded correct. Let's actually listen

630
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: to old Maddie, maybe his last press conference as a

631
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Bears coach.

632
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: We'll see, I like what we did there again.

633
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 7: Once it's under seven, you know you're going to you're

634
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 7: gonna call you know, time out there or actually under twelve,

635
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 7: and then really you don't have an option, you know,

636
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 7: because his third the fourth you got to throw it

637
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 7: into the end zone then, so to me, it's uh uh.

638
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 7: I think we handled it the right way. I do

639
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 7: believe that. You know, he's just rewrecked the play, get

640
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 7: it in bounce and call time out, and that's why

641
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 7: we held it and didn't work out the way we

642
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 7: wanted it.

643
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: Two.

644
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he's so confident seeing it too. I don't.

645
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: It's not intense like you say. He's so confident in

646
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: saying it is full blown gaslighting, like he is convinced.

647
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: He's trying to convince us by with this word solid

648
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: that what he did was in any way right, and

649
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: I think he believes it.

650
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: I think he you know, I don't need to know

651
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: the names.

652
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: He is a politician that believes everything he says and

653
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: that's why the lies work. Like I think he believes

654
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: it now what he might not intend to do because

655
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: he tried to do the whole I take full of responsibility.

656
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm the coach. But he did say that at some point.

657
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: But saying that is not taking full responsibility because saying

658
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: that is essentially saying Caleb Williams messed up. Because what

659
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: he is saying is I like what we did there.

660
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: He's saying like Yeah, I thought we were going to

661
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: get the playoff with twenty something seconds left in the

662
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: operation wasn't going to be so slow, and the caleb

663
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: wasn't going to stand over the bar for fifteen seconds.

664
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: It all would have made sense to quote re rack

665
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: the play get it off with seventeen seconds left or

666
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: whatever it is in execute it well.

667
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: But they didn't execute it well. So he's essentially, in

668
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: my mind saying the thought process was right, they just

669
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: didn't do it right.

670
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: That's how I read it. Yeah, And that's why I

671
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: wanted to highlight the caleb isn't completely without fault because

672
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: I think he has gone kind of blameless on social media,

673
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: et cetera. But look, they've six losses in a row now,

674
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: and four of those are the Hail Mary against Washington,

675
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: the Packers block field goal where should they have gained

676
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: vore yardes before they took that field goal, the overtime

677
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: loss to the Vikings, and then this one, and with

678
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: all of them, the game management has been absolutely horrendous,

679
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: and really for two and a half years and thirteen

680
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: weeks into this season, the game manage it's been consistently

681
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 3: bad under eba flus like well I always I used

682
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: to bang the drum about being like, you need to

683
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: have a coach who is just there to tell you

684
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: what to do situationally, who's their whole job is to

685
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: no clock management, to be on top of it. But

686
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: a lot of teams actually do have that now and

687
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: they set up in the booth and they do tell

688
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: them what to do, and they still get it wrong

689
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: just by having an expert who's literally in the building

690
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: doing that.

691
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, or have a coach that's pretty good at

692
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: it at it like, yeah, that's an option to a

693
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, a John Harbaugh. Eberflus was later asked in

694
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: that press conference if asked if he expects to be

695
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: the Bears head coach next week, which is a tough question,

696
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: and he just said, I'm going to keep grinding and

697
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: show up. But the fact that those questions are being asked,

698
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: it's just you get there's so many different stats. They're

699
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: the first team in NFL history to go on a

700
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: six scheme losing streak without having multiple turnovers in any

701
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: of those games. Just kind of interesting. All Ebraflus talks

702
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: about is don't turn the ball over, turn don't turn

703
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: them all over and he's showing how you can lose.

704
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen said at one point, we did enough as

705
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: players in that game, so that that kind of says

706
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: it all. He also was said he was totally surprised

707
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: that that was the last play of the game. He like,

708
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: he thought, like everyone in the field thought, oh, we

709
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: must have more time, right, Like that couldn't be how

710
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: the game ended.

711
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: They didn't know.

712
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: And then he said he looked up at and saw

713
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: that they still had a time out and said like,

714
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And DJ Moore said, we keep coming back

715
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: in these games, putting ourselves in position and then we

716
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: shut the bed, and yeah, that's what they do. The

717
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: worst record in one score games to your point, well,

718
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: since Eberflus took over are the Chicago Bears.

719
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, shocking And look when you look at what they

720
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: did overall in this game, like it's a game that

721
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: based on the first half, they had no right to

722
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: be in this game. Later on, right, Caleb goes five

723
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: to fifteen for just thirty four yards in the first half.

724
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: Second half comes out fourteen of twenty two two hundred

725
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: and eight yards, three touchdowns. Did lead them down the

726
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: field on that drive, did look like they were going

727
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: really positive and this was without much of a running

728
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: game whatsoever, Like DeAndre Swift had that third and one

729
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: where he picked up ten plus yards on that final drive,

730
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: but prior to that, Caleb had the top three rushes

731
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: on the team on the day, Like, they just weren't

732
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: moving the ball particularly well at all on the ground

733
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: and so you know, the Lions got a bit soft

734
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: in that second half. Injuries, I think really hurt them

735
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: in a big way as well. There were some really

736
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: bizarre incidents throughout the game that well we'll kind of

737
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: get into on both sides of the ball, I imagine.

738
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a game that shouldn't have been

739
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: there for the Bears, and then very much was there

740
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: for the Bears, and they just feel like a team

741
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: who don't know how to get out of their own

742
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: way right now.

743
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: No, their game was it was such a one sided game,

744
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: and the Lions didn't take advantage because they struggled in

745
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: the red zone in the first half. At one point

746
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: in the first half, the Lions had eighteen first downs

747
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: in the Bear had nine plays. Now, from that point forward,

748
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: the Bears more or less dominated. I'm not gonna say

749
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm concerned if I was a Lions fan, but the

750
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: Bears came back in that game. There were a couple

751
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: of moments in the second half, Campbell not going for

752
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: it on fourth and two at about his own forty

753
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: to kick it back to the Bears at last time

754
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: they kind of blinked there where I was like, Oh,

755
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: that's a little surprising at Dan Campbell's not being aggressive

756
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: in this moment. The way that their defense was playing,

757
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: and the way their defense was playing was in large

758
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: part because of the injuries in this game. Let's go

759
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: through them. Josh Pascal their starting edge. They've had so

760
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: many edge injuries out with a knee injury. Malcolm Rodriguez

761
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: lot left the game. Makai Wingo, one of their defensive linemen,

762
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: left the game. DJ Reider and Zadarias Smith both left

763
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: the game but returned. And Reader actually got a quarterback

764
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: hit will on that play where Caleb Williams threw it

765
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: at DJ Moore's feet, so he.

766
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: Probably should have made that play.

767
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: But it was a big play by DJ Reader on

768
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: that play to get a QB hit and at least

769
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: bother Caleb Williams, so he returned. Levi on Wuzurique, who's

770
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: been great for them in the middle. With Alee McNeil

771
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: hurt his hamstring in this game, so that is a

772
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: number of key defensive linemen. It's been just a cascade

773
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: of injuries at one position. And you could see Caleb

774
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: Williams getting more comfortable as the game went on and

775
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: having a lot of time and picking on some mismatches.

776
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: You got Kendall Vildor out there.

777
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have Carlton Davis and Keenan Allen

778
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: and Dj Moore like those were mismassive matches on the outside.

779
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: And you think ahead to next week with Packers Lions

780
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: and if they can't get healthy, they could be in

781
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: trouble on defense.

782
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a defense Aaron Glenn has managed to

783
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: both scheme up and coach up to do brilliant things

784
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: without Aiden Hutchinson and without some of their best players.

785
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: And you mentioned, you know, missing key piece in that secondary. Today,

786
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: next Gen Stats had a tweet that you know, Zadarias Smith,

787
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: Alcady Mohammad and Dj Reeder all had seven plus pressures

788
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: in this game, which means good after Yeah, Caleb was

789
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: pressured on seventeen dropbacks without them blitzing, which is the

790
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: most in the Dan cambell era, And that's not going

791
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: to be. The idea was you lose Aiden Hutchinson, You're

792
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: going to struggle, right, that was. But Zadarius Smith comes

793
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: in and they decide not to line him up as

794
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: the kind of just a replacement for Aid Hutchinson, which

795
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: I think wouldn't have worked, but they've got him playing

796
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: up the middle. He had that brilliant spin move on

797
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: the inside to force Caleb outside on the pocket on

798
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: this second drive to force the three and out got

799
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: the sack at the end of the game, which obviously

800
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: caused such huge issues. Like I thought, he was absolutely

801
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: sensational in this game despite good car the fact that

802
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 3: he's going against a pretty bad offensive line, and yeah,

803
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 3: I lians defense keeps from finding ways to win despite everything,

804
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: and yet in this second half there was enough concern

805
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: for me that goes if they were playing a really

806
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: good organized football team who kind of a well coached

807
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: and knew what they were doing, this would be a

808
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: dropped game for them. And I suspect that the Packers

809
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: are exactly that kind of team next week.

810
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to know.

811
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: What to make of it, because, like I said, like

812
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, it was one hundred and forty

813
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: five yards to five, but they kept they kept bogging

814
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. They were throwing a lot

815
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: in the red zone instead of running. And then Jamir

816
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Gibbs had that fumble as they were going in up

817
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: sixteen nothing I believe at the time at the end

818
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: of the second quarter, and that fumble gave the Bears

819
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: a little life where they would have been out of

820
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: it if they had gone in there twenty three nothing

821
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: at halftime. Instead, Gibbs fumbles and it was a low

822
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: possession game. I was thinking, Wow, the Lions offense really

823
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, struggled in the second half.

824
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: But they really didn't.

825
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: They had a touchdown drive and then in the fourth

826
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: quarter they did punch two different times.

827
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: It was a four and out.

828
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: They missed a field goal on a short field where

829
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: they had stopped the Bears and Jake Bates could have

830
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: put it away. And then they had that three and

831
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: out that I mentioned where Goff didn't even get to

832
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: make a throw. They just ran at three straight times.

833
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: They got stuffed on third and two and went back,

834
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: got backed up a half a yard and Dan Campbell

835
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: at that moment, It's about three and a half minutes left,

836
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I know you don't want to give

837
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: him good field position, but I trust your offense more

838
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: right now than your defense. And he decided to punt

839
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: it away. It was almost like, hey, offensive line, you

840
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: just gave up a yard. You haven't earned the right

841
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: to go for this fourth down. And so he's always

842
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: been good knowing his team. He punted it away, and

843
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: at that point I thought, Wow, I think the Bears

844
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: are gonna win this game, which probably not a lot

845
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: of Bears fans were thinking. They're too jaded after all

846
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: these years to actually think something good was gonna happen,

847
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: because I really thought the way Caleb was moving the

848
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: ball at that point in the game. They scored the

849
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: touchdown on a nice drive right after halftime, and then

850
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: a couple more touchdown before that last drive, I thought

851
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: they were going to go down the field. They'd win

852
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: this damn thing, which would have been quite a story.

853
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: But instead the Lions get to eleven and one and

854
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: the Bears get to four in eight. Who knows if

855
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: the Bears changed coaches, they know there's a lot of

856
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: focus on the Bears and they're not even the relevant team.

857
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they changed coaches this week. They're

858
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: going to change coaches at the end of the season.

859
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: That's kind of what matters.

860
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do wonder how much concern there is for

861
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: I know you said they didn't play poorly in the

862
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: second half the Lions offense, but it did seem weird

863
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: they went away from the run as much they did.

864
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: Jimmy Gibbs had had nearly twelve yards per rush in

865
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: the first half. They had one hundred and forty four

866
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: yards on the ground in that first half, and then

867
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: what I think he only had four rushing yards in

868
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: the second half. Gibbs and they I mean, I know

869
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: they've got the one two punch with Montgomery and he

870
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: saw a lot of the ball, but it just felt

871
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: like that got completely shut down that part of the game.

872
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 3: You know, mom Rass and Brown and he gets two

873
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: targets in the second half. Jameson Williams only gets one target,

874
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: which was on that catch where he had that ridiculous hurdle,

875
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: which it's amazing that's not a play took we end

876
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: up talking more about because it's the kind of thing that, like,

877
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: you know, if it happened at the week one of

878
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: the season, going oh my god, that's some of the

879
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: greatest athleticism we've ever seen.

880
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: And yet I've never seen a hurdle like that, because

881
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a jump up hurdle.

882
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: It was a sprinting four four to three speed hurdle

883
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: straightforward that that was incredible, like a full blown just hurdle,

884
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: like a hurdler hurdling like it was insane.

885
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 3: I did, actually on the Jamison william thing. I wanted

886
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: to know your thoughts on him throwing the ball into

887
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: Tyreg Stevenson's face and getting flagged for it. And the

888
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: reason that I wanted to bring up wasn't so much

889
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: the decision itself, because Jamie Williams feels like a guy

890
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: that has that in his locker, like he's got a

891
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: bit of that to his background and stuff. But it

892
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: was the moment they showed on the sideline when Antoine

893
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: Randelel was absolutely just reaming him out like a dad

894
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: telling off like his teenager who's come in two hours

895
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: after his curfew and clearly stinks of cheap whiskey, and

896
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: he's just like absolutely and is desperately pleading his case

897
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: and he's basically saying, no, that was stupid. What are

898
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: you doing? I think it was a real good players

899
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: as coach moments. We've talked about that a lot this

900
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: year with like you know, O'Connell and ka Ryan's and

901
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: guys like that. But yeah, I love to watch hands.

902
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: When Randaell just gave him two barrels, it was really

903
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: good fun. I just love all the the old frends

904
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: that he has on the sideline. We got now old

905
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: enough to remember Aaron Glenn.

906
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: As a player.

907
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: We got Duce Staley over there, we got Randall ll

908
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a fun staff to just watch,

909
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just got to survive games like this.

910
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: The Bears have given them a lot of troubles, not

911
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: just beating them on Thanksgiving, but generally they've shut down

912
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: the Benn Johnson offense under Ibra flus So I was

913
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: trying to think, what what do they do well now?

914
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: They are really good situational defense. They've been great in

915
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: the red zone all year, and they're pretty good on

916
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: third downs. They I checked the next Gen stats, they

917
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: only give up five point four yards per attempt on

918
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: play action today and they were in GoF, had a

919
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: lot of play action. They only gave up five point

920
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: six yards per attempt on inbreakers to GoF, and I

921
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: think the broadcast talked a little bit about just they

922
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: really flood the middle of the field so that they're

923
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: good in the red zone. They managed to take away

924
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I think teams could at

925
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: least look at what Chicago has done over the years

926
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: to Detroit and try to gum it up and maybe

927
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: it's just a matchup issue that's difficult for Detroit. But

928
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: you give eberflu some credit there because I did not

929
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: think they would be able to hang defensively in this game.

930
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: They really haven't been a good defense overall this year.

931
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: They're not a good run defense. They weren't today, But

932
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: the Lions didn't really have many running attempts in the

933
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: second half, and they're not a good pass rush and

934
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: they weren't for most of today either, and they managed

935
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: to survive, So there's something. But that's kind of the

936
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus defensive like, the things they do well does

937
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: not make up nearly enough for all the shortcomings.

938
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wrote down on first half red zone struggles

939
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: Kyla Gordon should have picked Jared goff Off on that

940
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 3: opening drive. A little bit of turnover look for him there.

941
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: But I wrote exactly that they did really good job

942
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: of flooding the middle of the field, taking away those

943
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 3: in breakers, stopping them from doing what they do so brilliantly.

944
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: And actually, like Jivon Dexter had that brilliant sack on

945
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: the third possession, but also had some really good stops

946
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: early on, and they did. They seem to turn it

947
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: on in the red zone and I was trying to

948
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: figure out watching it back, was it Lion struggles and

949
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: play calling in the red zone. I thought they were

950
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: good plays there, and I thought they were decent execution.

951
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: I just thought that the Bears tightened up really well

952
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: when he got into that area. The Lions did try

953
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: and throw a touchdown with which was one of When

954
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: that happened so early in the night, I was ready

955
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: for one of the greatest thanksgivings of all time. I'm like,

956
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: if this is happening in the first quarter of the

957
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: first game, we are in for a barn storm of

958
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: this evening. Because I'm just obsessed with Ben Johnson. I'm

959
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: obsessed with that play call. It was unbelievable.

960
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: It kind of a standing ovation And so a three

961
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: yard sack has never been cheered louder from the home

962
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: crowd than that play. And I don't know if they

963
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: were cheering just because of the huevos on Ben Jhonson

964
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: to call it, or the fact that Pinae Sewell, you

965
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: can look in the box score and see that he

966
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: got sacked and now, yes, he's given up fewer sacks

967
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: zero than sacks he's.

968
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: Taken this year. One.

969
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they were just cheering because four different Bears defenders

970
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: tried to bring him down and not even got him close,

971
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: like his knees didn't buckle. The momentum took him over

972
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: to the sideline and the play then ended, but no

973
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: one was getting that big boy down. And I'm a

974
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: little disappointed a that he didn't complete a pass on

975
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: that play and then b the second half win as

976
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: it did, because my Pinae Sewell for Offensive Player of

977
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: the Year agenda was everything in the first half of

978
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: that game.

979
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: I was like, this thing actually might take off.

980
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: He is a star of this game right now, and

981
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to put him up there

982
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: almost as a representative, but also because he's Pine saw

983
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: as a potential award winner this year. I'm the best offense,

984
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: the best team in the league. But then it quieted

985
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: down a little on it me and me.

986
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: So your friend of mine, Olly Connolly, did a really

987
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: good piece about Penney Saul this past week for The Guardian,

988
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: and runs targeted behind Saul this season over fifty percent

989
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: of them, fifty two point five percent go for a

990
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: first down or a touchdown. And that's more than that's it. Basically,

991
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: it's the most successful play in the NFL. It's just

992
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: run behind Penney Saul. And you mentioned my forty nine

993
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: ers found them earlier on It's reminded me a lot

994
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: of Trent Williams season last season, where when Penny Saul

995
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: isn't in the lineup they don't look anything like the

996
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 3: same offense at all, and they just do so much

997
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: with him and so much behind him. And I love

998
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: the idea that we're like, we're under the lights. It's Thanksgiving.

999
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 3: We haven't won on Thanksgiving in what is it, eight

1000
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: nine years now, and we're going to try and throw

1001
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: a touchdown with our best lineman. Like I was so

1002
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: on board with it, It's a shame it didn't work.

1003
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, I love the crowd reaction.

1004
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: How I mean, how are the Bears ready for that?

1005
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: I guess they just like the players, just like Red

1006
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: read that it was a pass play and didn't look

1007
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: up or something because everyone was well covered on that play.

1008
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 2: It was there was nowhere.

1009
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: Good good job quarterbacking by Piney Soul holding on to

1010
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: that ball. What a season for the Lions ending that

1011
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving streak. Who cares if it was close? And you

1012
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: have some concerns. I know these are champagne problems, that

1013
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: the injuries are the issue. But you are eleven and one,

1014
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: you won on Thanksgiving and now you've got two big

1015
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: games coming up, Packers and Bills coming into Detroit. Well

1016
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: for season ticket holders in Detroit to have Thanksgiving against

1017
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: the Bears, then Packers and then Bills. As you are

1018
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: unanimously the number one team and everyone's power rankings, the

1019
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: number one team in the NFC.

1020
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: What what a time it is to be a Detroit

1021
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: Lions fan. So enjoy it.

1022
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, Let's get to a game. Everyone's

1023
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: excited about. Cowboys Giants. We'll talk a little bit about

1024
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: our Thanksgiving it's going to be great. But before we

1025
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: do that, let's listen to Dan Campbell talk about the

1026
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Lions and their mindset with all the injuries that they have.

1027
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: We're back right after this.

1028
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, does it really matter? Like

1029
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: who cares? You know? And that's the thing that's what

1030
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 5: I go back to, Man, I can it doesn't matter,

1031
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: like either it is or it isn't and we get

1032
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 5: a guy back. We don't get a guy back, And

1033
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: it's like worrying about it and moaning about it and

1034
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: bitching about it. It's like calls right, it's like the call.

1035
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 5: It's like bildor I could sit there and throw a

1036
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 5: fit about it. What does it matter?

1037
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 4: You know it?

1038
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: It's called.

1039
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 5: It's done.

1040
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: So I know this.

1041
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 5: Whoever we have available, we're gonna get them ready to

1042
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 5: play and we expect them the whole the line period.

1043
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: Giants are out at the forty first and ten after

1044
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: the kickoff return.

1045
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: Block with play action screen tip.

1046
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: Up to the yard and it's up to the long

1047
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: show running right to.

1048
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 5: The goal line.

1049
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 3: Touch down own horse shown. Oh what an athletic play

1050
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: that is.

1051
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: Brad sham k RLD like having Brad.

1052
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Back on the show the last couple of weeks to

1053
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: Marbion over Shan with an incredibly athletic play, not just

1054
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: tipping the ball up to himself and then running under

1055
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: it beautifully, but coming off a pretty vicious block on

1056
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: the running back even before tipping the ball.

1057
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

1058
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense gets it done, make Drew Lock look bad.

1059
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Turnovers galore for the Giants. The Cowboys hold on for

1060
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: a twenty seven to twenty victory. They're second straight when

1061
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: to get to five and seven the Giants. They got

1062
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance here to get the number one

1063
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: overall pick in this draft. They are at two and

1064
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: ten and well, they found a team in the Giants.

1065
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: Dallas did that they could push around a little bit.

1066
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: They had to feel good. Like the offensive line for

1067
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they thought played pretty well. They could run

1068
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: the ball, they protected rush enough, and then defensively, Micah

1069
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: Parsons and overshown and that front got after Drew Locke.

1070
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Parsons against Evan Neil might be the biggest

1071
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: mismatch we see in the NFL all season. Like, it

1072
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: felt like like abusive by the end of that game,

1073
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: I really like I was just ro to take them out.

1074
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 3: Just what back at, what swing tackles have you got?

1075
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: Just anyone, just please please just put him out of

1076
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: his misery. At this point, you mentioned I thought they

1077
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: were much better in the trenches on both sides of

1078
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 3: the ball over the last two weeks, and they have been.

1079
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 3: You know, there was a standout defensive performance, but Rico

1080
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: Dawdle's US career one hundred yard rushing game, I still

1081
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: felt that Mike McCarthy made some weird play calls, Like

1082
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: there was a point where Rika Dad had an eighteen

1083
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: yard pickup when they were up two scores and could

1084
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: go and kill the game off, and then he ran

1085
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 3: three consecutive passes for Cooper Rush, and you're just thinking

1086
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: it's all working. The Giants are giving it up to you.

1087
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: Why are you just not absolutely running the ball down

1088
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: their throat in this situation. You know, I totally get

1089
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: targeting adri Jackson. That makes complete sense to me. But

1090
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: outside of that, like it just it didn't quite feel

1091
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: like it completely clicked on that side of the ball.

1092
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: But it felt like they're getting enough out of Cooper

1093
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 3: Rush and a really good defensive performance, and so yeah,

1094
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: the Cowboys aren't back but at least they've got something

1095
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: to enjoy as the season starts to reach it.

1096
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: No, they're gonna win, and just enough games to kind

1097
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: of ruin their draft pick. And hey, Micah Parsons was

1098
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: a late pick. Zach Martin was a late pick who

1099
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: was their center back of the day, Travis Frederick. I mean,

1100
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: they've had plenty of good late picks, so they can

1101
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: make their picks, and they'd much rather win on Thanksgiving,

1102
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: especially after the first five games that they had at home,

1103
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: which rivaled any team in NFL history in terms of

1104
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: point differential. That's how bad the Cowboys were at home. Yeah,

1105
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: Daudo goes for one hundred and twelve, He gets forty

1106
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: four yard rushing yards over expected.

1107
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: And Cooper Rush not a great or pretty thrower of the.

1108
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: Football, but he has gotten a little better each week

1109
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: this season that he's played. He ends up with one

1110
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five yards twenty one for thirty six.

1111
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of drops. Ceedee Lamb had

1112
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: three drops on the game and then left with an injury.

1113
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: Only two catches and one thing. Cooper Rush does better

1114
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: a lot better than Drew Locke, who got the start

1115
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: over Tommy DeVito. Because DeVito was injured, he avoid sacks.

1116
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: The pressure rate for the Giants was actually twenty four percent,

1117
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: which is low, but it's not like comically low, and

1118
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: they did not get any sacks on Cooper rush, whereas

1119
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: the pressure and Drew Lock was forty four percent, and

1120
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: a lot of them were quick in his defense, but

1121
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: six sacs one and a half from from Micah like

1122
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: Carl Larsen was in there, Odiggy Zoo was getting in

1123
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: the mix, and Lock was he was he was full

1124
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: Lock and a couple of fun runs in there, but

1125
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: a fumble on one of those runs in interception, and yeah, man,

1126
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: this this Giant season just can't and fast.

1127
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah he was by far their leading Russia on the night.

1128
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: But you look, you look at yeah they they only

1129
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 3: orchestrated two plays of twenty yards or more in the

1130
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 3: whole game, and they were both Drew Lock scrambles. Like

1131
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: this is just not it's it's not working. It's it's

1132
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: not difficult to kind of look beyond that. It was

1133
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 3: he was half. He was eight of seventeen for fifty

1134
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: five yards, and actually of his one hundred and seventy

1135
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: eight total, sixty eight of them came on that garbage

1136
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: time touchdown drive right at the end where they were

1137
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 3: just giving him eighteen yard pickup after thirteen yard pickup,

1138
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: after just just letting moved down the field.

1139
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: Though it wasn't quite garbage time. I always struggle with, like,

1140
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: what is garbage time? What isn't They had a chance

1141
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: to win that game there they kicked it out, you know,

1142
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: they kicked it off to the Cowboys and made the

1143
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys get a first down. If the Cowboys went three

1144
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: and out, which is a very normal thing for the

1145
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Cowboys to do, they would have to

1146
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: punt it to the Giants with a chance to win.

1147
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: The game, just saying just say, don't you feel like

1148
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: the defense then actually goes, oh we should we should

1149
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: start playing again now.

1150
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: Right, That's why why defenses do that. I don't I

1151
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: don't get that.

1152
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: I appreciated Actually the Packers, after not playing well for

1153
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: most of the second half tonight, got very aggressive actually

1154
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: during Miami's deep garbage time drive and just didn't let

1155
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: them move the ball at on.

1156
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, that that's how it should be.

1157
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: Just just do that.

1158
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: Giants fans are going to absolutely hate that I'm going

1159
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: to point this out, but I'm going to anyway, the

1160
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: money they saved from Saquon Barkley, they spent on Devin

1161
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: Singletary Andrew Locke. That's where that you can draw the

1162
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: direct line because of how they paid their contracts this year.

1163
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: They literally freed up five million dollars and they went

1164
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: and spent it on a backup quarterback. And that's what

1165
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: they got out of it.

1166
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: Like they spent twice as much money. And Brian Burns

1167
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: is another way to look at it. And Brian Burns

1168
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: has been fine. He's been about what you would expect

1169
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: Brian Burns to be. But it you know, it's that

1170
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: change in their life.

1171
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look that you cut the Demnion over Shon

1172
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: play is like a freak moment, an unbelievable, just piece

1173
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: of athleticism, one of the best players will see all season.

1174
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: It will be on highlights all yearund so like you

1175
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 3: can't necessarily throw that back in their face. But other

1176
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: than that, like they just didn't put anything together on

1177
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: offense at all, and I think it did highlight that

1178
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: Cowboys defense, like eight takeaways in their last five games. Now,

1179
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: you know Overshawn he actually recovered the fumble from the

1180
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: Eric kendricks on the Tyrone Tracy fumble as well, So like,

1181
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: what a game for him and what an emergence he's had,

1182
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: And it's it's why I keep going back to the

1183
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: the You know, both of these teams, well all they

1184
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: actually I was gonna say both these teams are gonna

1185
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: be having a reset this offseason. But suddenly this past week,

1186
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: with back to back wins, with some murmurings from Jerry

1187
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: Jones on local radio, with suddenly people writing think pieces

1188
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: about it, like, well, suddenly it might be that Mike

1189
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: mcconfee's staying in Dallas.

1190
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I cannot buy that, but I

1191
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: guess they'd have to keep winning. Now they're five and seven.

1192
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: They have the Bengals at Panthers home for Bucks, at

1193
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: Philly home for Washington. I mean, if they win two

1194
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: of those games, that would be outstanding, and even that

1195
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: would only get them to seven and ten. It's more

1196
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: likely they went about one of those games. I mean,

1197
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's with you. Tom Brady spent about three minutes

1198
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: at one point talking about that Mike McCarthy's one of

1199
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: the greatest coaches in the NFL. I'm less high on

1200
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady than you are. He always seems a little angry.

1201
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: And it's not just like because of those quarterbacks. He

1202
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: just I think he wants to be good, and he's

1203
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: like frustrated, he's he's not good.

1204
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: He's like trying to have a good time.

1205
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just not comfortable, And I think he will

1206
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: be more comfortable in the future, because I do think

1207
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: he wants to be good, and that's it. But it's

1208
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: even even man, we're picking at him. It's just like

1209
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: they came back from break and Kevin Burkhart was saying,

1210
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: like happy Thanksgiving to everyone, and I saw Brady just

1211
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: sort of mouth happy Thanksgiving everybody, but like it wasn't

1212
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: his turn to speak, so he actually didn't say it.

1213
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: But it's just a little moments like that.

1214
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: Paul Kemberke I'm to go from last year watching Greg

1215
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: Olsen tear that to duck and apart with his bare

1216
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: hands like he was an animals so this year and

1217
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: shout out to all he hunter for this line on Twitter,

1218
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: but going to Tom Brady looking like it's the first

1219
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: time he's eating human food.

1220
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: Like he was, and then he tried to do, like, hey,

1221
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: what would a cool, tough guy do in this scenario?

1222
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: And then like went hard at it.

1223
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: Obviously, he was astonished at how good meat tasted, like

1224
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: it's the first time he's had it in twenty five years.

1225
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: It was one of the weirdest moments. And I am

1226
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 3: higher on Brady than you overall. I think he has

1227
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: improved over the season and when they give him a

1228
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: chance to be a football nerd, like, I really enjoy it,

1229
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: and I like his anger, Like I think I liked

1230
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: his anger in this game. But actually the bit of

1231
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 3: anger I liked wasn't about the quarterback play going on

1232
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: the field. Actually him going quite hard after Daniel Jones

1233
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: in the build up, basically saying that by requesting a release,

1234
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: that's him giving up on the team who have invested

1235
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: so much in him. I don't agree with him, but

1236
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: at least it was a bit of honesty and a

1237
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: bit of like forthrightness from Brady, Like I'd rather interesting

1238
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,479
Speaker 3: opinions I disagree with than Jason Garrett.

1239
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with that, that's a good take.

1240
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 1: I thn that I don't agree with it really either,

1241
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: but I hadn't heard that, and that that's more compelling.

1242
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: He isn't afraid to be critical, which I'll give him

1243
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: credit for that. It's more just broadcaster. They need to

1244
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: be a good hang, right and some level unless they're

1245
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: really teaching you a lot. And I feel like he's

1246
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: a good hang yet.

1247
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's funny because obviously coming someone from a

1248
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: radio background, like you know, we're broadcasting cricket right now,

1249
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: which is a little bit like baseball, this insanely long

1250
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 3: sport where you're just hearing the same two, three, four

1251
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: voices for what can be like eight hours at a time,

1252
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 3: and so it needs to be driven by interesting people.

1253
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: And actually even like the NFL in this country, when

1254
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: you compare it to like our football soccer, Like if

1255
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: somebody comes and listens to a talks able broadcast of

1256
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: one of the London games or Germany or like the

1257
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: super Bowl, and they listen, we have their company for

1258
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: four hours. And so if you are very straight down

1259
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: the line, or if you are boring then or you

1260
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: don't say anything interesting.

1261
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: Why you need to get well Gavin on the like.

1262
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: But the thing is it's not going a lot on

1263
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: that combs, you.

1264
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: Know, wonderful. I'm glad he got to mention because he

1265
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: would have been angry if hadn't. Like, it's just you need.

1266
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be the reason you turn off because

1267
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: you've tuned in for the game, not for the individuals necessarily,

1268
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: but it does elevate it. When you do get like

1269
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: Kevin Harlan or Kevin Burkhart or somebody's really really good like,

1270
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: it does make a huge difference to your enjoyment of

1271
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: a bad game.

1272
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a tough one because the Giants and

1273
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys are great draws in the US, and I'm sure

1274
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people will watch this game. This is

1275
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: traditionally the most watched game of the year, actually the

1276
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys Thanksgiving game of any football all game all season long.

1277
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: But you know, over there, it's like, I don't know

1278
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys and the Giants are as big of

1279
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: a draw, and so I didn't feel good that this

1280
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: is the product that were given out there for everyone.

1281
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Although the Fox I did like they had the Cowboys

1282
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: and the Saints in there in the Hunt playoff graphics,

1283
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: so they're small victories. I was like, wow, Okay, they're

1284
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: still in. They're still in the Hunt five and seven.

1285
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: Let's put him in the Saints, you're in the hunt.

1286
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: If they don't mathematically out of it, you have to

1287
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: cool them in the hunt.

1288
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: But nobody's mathematically out of it. I don't think even

1289
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: the Giants are mathematically out of this. This would have

1290
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: to do it, you would think right going into this

1291
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: week they weren't. Maybe maybe some other games will eliminate them.

1292
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: Just some other really small things in this game, Melik

1293
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: neighbors very Melik neighbors game like a couple bad plays.

1294
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: He's had some mental errors this year, but three really

1295
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: really tough grabs in this game. Different types of ones.

1296
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: One on the sideline, one with a diving catch, one

1297
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: on a ball behind him. I mean, he is just

1298
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Speaker 1: a beautiful catcher of the football. Like the offensive line

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Speaker 1: for the Giants just made that offense unplayable. But he's awesome.

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Speaker 1: And then Jonathan Mingo. It's not gonna happen, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: But they're just like hope ball after hopeball to Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Mingo and then welcome back Brandon Cooks. He actually made

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: a big difference. He made an outstanding catch on that

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01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: third down with about two under two minutes to go

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Speaker 1: to put the game away. If if Cooper Rush doesn't

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: make a pretty good throw there, and Cooks doesn't make

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01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: that catch, the Giants get the ball back with a

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01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: chance to win. I have no faith the Giants would

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: have gone down the field and actually scored, but that

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Speaker 1: play coming out of the two more warning. Welcome back

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. He had three catches for sixteen yards and

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01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: seven targets. Mingo by the way, two yards and four targets.

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Speaker 1: So there's your Cowboys. How was your Thanksgiving? Did you

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Speaker 1: work the whole time? Well, yeah, like normally we do.

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Speaker 3: We try and do like a bunch of us will

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01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: get together at a bar in central London or something

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: and like a lot of like the kind of American

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01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: themed bars will do like a big roast inner and

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01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: put a turkey on, and like they'll put pumpkin pile

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01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: on or some of that, and then you can get

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Speaker 3: like a little little sense of Americana on the day.

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Speaker 3: But actually, today I just knew I was coming on,

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01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 3: so I was professional and I stayed at home and

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01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: I made notes and I watched the games. Definitely nothing

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01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: wow to do with recently becoming a dad and you know,

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01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: having to help out with feeds or anything.

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01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: It was you were going to I thought you were

1328
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: like up working on Talk Sport till five in the morning.

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Speaker 1: My first thought was, well, who do I ask to

1330
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: work on Thanksgiving? How about someone that doesn't technically celebrate Thanksgiving?

1331
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: And then I thought, but that's making them up, you know,

1332
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: making them stay up till five in the morning, which

1333
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: is almost torture.

1334
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: Will Gavin, that's the man for it.

1335
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 3: I did do a few updates on Talk Sports, so

1336
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: I did do a little bit of I had a

1337
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: bit of a side hustle. But the point is great

1338
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: that you were the main reason I'm still awakening. It's fine,

1339
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 3: yes in the morning, so just just know that I

1340
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Let's let's get eric on here. My Thanksgiving.

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01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: We picked up from a amazing barbecue place, Maple Block.

1342
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it if you're in the Culver City

1343
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: or Los Angeles area, and they smoked that turkey. Smoked

1344
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: turkey is the way to go. It was so tender,

1345
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: it was delicious. My my lovely wife Emmica, you know,

1346
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: made some stuffing, made some corn bread, made dessert. You know,

1347
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: we we had some sides, but it doesn't hurt to

1348
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: order the side. I mean to order the turkey. It's

1349
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: fine if you don't, you know, if you don't have

1350
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: all the time in the world. My parents were over,

1351
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: my friend Anthony was over. Who I do the jessel

1352
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project jervyb with and everyone should check.

1353
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: Out his us such a humble brag. My friend Anthony

1354
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: was saying, he was turn on my TV right now

1355
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: without his face showing up. Okay, go on Netflix watch

1356
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 3: Anthony Justink special.

1357
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Eventually, this was a long winded way to say, go, yeah,

1358
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: go check out his new special. I I looked and

1359
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: they had the Netflix like top ten or whatever, and

1360
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: my guy, that is right there number three. It you know,

1361
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: people sick of watching two and a half hour long movies.

1362
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: It's a nice fifty three minute special and uh it

1363
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: is absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 2: So it was I was great.

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Speaker 3: Top ten in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Okay, don't you know, let's not let's come down and

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: then Eric crazy. Your your first your first Thanksgiving with

1368
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: the baby. You went over to your mom's.

1369
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: How was it? First? First thinking it.

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Speaker 6: Was great, lots of people around to hold the baby,

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01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 6: so we're not, you know, on full baby duty. But

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 6: once got home, it was very much hey, I have

1373
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 6: not napped today, and it was it all caught up

1374
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 6: to us once we got home and there was nobody

1375
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 6: else to kind of just hey, be an aunt to

1376
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 6: be a grandma, be an uncle pulled the baby for us,

1377
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 6: and it was just hey, dude, I am pissed and

1378
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 6: tired and I'm you know, but now he's sleeping now,

1379
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 6: so that's always good. That's always great when you bring

1380
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 6: me on and there's no baby crying in the background.

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01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I should have thought about that too. I

1382
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: didn't even that didn't even great. Way. I don't even

1383
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: know how deep is the Roberts family going here. I'm

1384
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: always fascinated by people's family.

1385
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: I come from a very small family, not just our size,

1386
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, because we are quite diminutive.

1387
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: Older brother, younger sister, one nephew ninety seven.

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: So not a huge not a huge crew over there. Yeah,

1389
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: well that's good. I'm glad that we were all able

1390
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: to do it. We're all be able to manage it.

1391
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: Brought my parents back there, staying at a place a

1392
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: couple of bucks away, uh, and then headed back here

1393
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: to talk to you will and uh to work with

1394
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: you Eric, and we'll end this thing. Because it's longer

1395
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: than I expected, and Eric's got to go edit out

1396
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: might swear at some point.

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Speaker 3: I just I need you to know. Yes, he's in

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01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: the top ten. On you to go, let's go, he's

1399
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 3: at ten, but it's still top ten.

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: Oh you know, you know you didn't need to do that.

1401
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: You didn't need to do no, but that's still strong

1402
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: in the UK. That's that's strong. He had a nice

1403
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: show in London, and uh yeah, if you just give

1404
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: it the first ten to fifty minutes.

1405
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: If you don't like that part, you know, I don't

1406
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: know what's wrong with you. It's pretty hilarious, but you

1407
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: probably won't like the rest either. All Right, that is

1408
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: it for our show. We are back on Friday, special

1409
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 2: guest with Cynthia Frielan and I. It might be someone

1410
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: who is at my Thanksgiving dinner table today who I

1411
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 2: also played tennis with, and thank you will again, thank

1412
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: you Eric. Yeah, the season starts at Thanksgiving, right, so

1413
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: I guess it's official. Like football is back, it's over.