WEBVTT - Tim Shaw 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.880 Carola. She's a queen of talking. He was sown your man. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:20.119 She's only yes, actually got the snoop on the side. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:29.760 No one can do with clid my Carala Carola. No 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:36.680 one can do with quiet Carol Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.959 to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.440 questions do you want to ask? So let's get Hyper 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.479 heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.160 could be adult content this week on the podcast. I'm 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.120 so excited because I have my first athlete, Tim Shaw. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.120 He played football at Penn State. Then he went to 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:05.000 play for the Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Chicago Bears, and 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.520 Tennessee Titans. What and he recently was diagnosed with a 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.360 l S and has become a spokesperson for a LS 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.679 and put so much inspiration and awareness to the disease. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.280 And it's amazing to hear what he has to say 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.840 about that. He also has several businesses that everyone must 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.840 know about, especially if you live in Nashville. One is 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.040 hot Box, which is the best way to get to 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.120 work on it. So get excited. This interview is so 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:36.120 great and I know you're gonna love it. Here's Tim Shaw. Hello, Tim, 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.280 You're sitting here in your lovely house. This is Tim Shaw, everyone, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.160 and it's amazing. How long have you been living here? 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.880 I've lived here from a little over a year, but 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:53.560 I moved from like this ultimate bachelor pad to this 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:59.400 family home. So it's been a cool adjustment. I know, 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.800 you know, I think the bachelor days are. It's fun 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.200 to have a bachelor pad. But even as we get older, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:10.560 like Michael and A thinking about like getting more like beautiful, 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:16.440 neighborhood oriented, little safer, a little like more quiet, family oriented. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:22.959 It feels nice. As you grow up you do things like, yeah, 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.280 adult thing is not fun, but it is necessary at times, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.720 it really at times, I guess it is necessary. Let 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.919 me check our levels here. Okay, I think we've got 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.240 this doubt into him. Um, so how has adultsing? Ben? 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:41.760 How old are you? Thirty? Wonderful? Wonderful? Not for two 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.000 months long or a couple of months. I'll be thirty terrific. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.480 Yeah the words right out of my Is that what 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.760 you're going to say? Yeah, I'm thirty terrific right now. Ye, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.200 it's a good year good. The thirties have been like 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:04.639 real life. I think the thirties are underrated. I think 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.520 people glorify the twenties, but I think about all the 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.720 mistakes we made in the twenties. Idiot just now becoming 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:19.120 halfway logical in my head. Right, So the thirties are 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.840 I think. I'm excited. One have been great, thirty two 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:29.160 can only be better, and then you have thirty tremendous, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.560 three mendous forward to thirty three minuts is the one 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.360 I'm turning July thirty. Yes, my girlfriend comes up with 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:41.120 all these catch phrases. I'll look for your calendar that 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.800 coming out with all the So what have you liked 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:52.080 most about the thirties. I really liked transitioning from an 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:57.040 athlete to a businessman. It's been really fun and challenging, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.680 um and almost creating a new identity for myself. To 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.840 tell me about it. What was your original identity and 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.560 what is your identity now? What's funny? Identity is something 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.280 that I've so I go with a lot. I think 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.120 when you grow up as an athlete and you have 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:19.360 success and success to the NFL, it really defines you 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.839 and and everything you do revolves around that life of 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:28.680 being a professional athlete. So regardless of whether you want 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:35.400 to be or not, it essentially is your identity because yeah, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.560 and it's it's something that I thought, you know, I 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.520 didn't want to be, just that I didn't want to 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.599 be lay what was that or pigeonholed or any of 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.720 those things, But it really was such a huge part 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.120 of who it was. So it's been really cool too. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.400 You know, it's been difficult to leave that life, but 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:59.440 also really great to realize, hey, there is more to life. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.960 There are is, um it doesn't go downhill after the NFL. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:09.360 Life can get better and more enriching, more filling things 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.039 like that. So what have you found to be more 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:16.880 the most enriching that you have experienced post NFL. Well, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:22.279 when I talk about enriching, it usually involved other people. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.320 Rather than just making my life better, it means making 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:31.279 other people's lives better. So for me, that's really involved, um, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.360 not only giving money, by giving time to certain efforts 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:40.839 and organizations. And I'm really excited about an organization and 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:45.559 I'm part of right now that we're starting. It's called 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:50.880 very tesse Elite, and it's a performance company that is 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:57.520 going to UM impact youth through sports performance. So just 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:03.360 using UM people who are are excellent, excellent physical trainers 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.320 UM to influence kids that way and and just be 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:13.919 good role models and too, UM be mentors and teach 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.200 leadership and things like that. So I'm excited about that. 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.480 We're just started in two thousands and sixteen. How did 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.719 you get this going? I met these two guys, these 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.680 two trainers that are just infectious, and they're so good 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.520 at what they do, and I was thinking, how can 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.520 I come alongside and enhance what these guys do. So 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.760 I'm able to bring some some business acumen and some 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.720 money UM to help kids the program going UM and 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.880 just watch these guys do their thing with the kids. Okay, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.960 because you also have a football camp, so you're super 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.640 busy and super giving back, which I love about you. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.040 I've noticed in all of interviews I've read about you, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:03.000 you love spreading joy to others. I think can listen 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:07.680 this is something that needs to change because I think 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.600 you say a lot of people aren't like that. Here's 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.160 what I believe. They're like that because they don't understand 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.880 how it enhances their own life to go out and 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.120 impact other people. So when you do something, you know, 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.600 quote unquote charity work or you know, a mission trip. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:33.640 Those things they sound really um, really religious or or 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.560 really like goody, but but they're not. They're what they 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:41.720 are is they're impactful not only other people, but therefore 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.920 they impact you. And so every time I've left a 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:49.400 mission trip, every time I've done a service project, you think, oh, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.080 I'm gonna go and do good for these people, but 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.360 you walk away having enriched your own life way more 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.680 than you could have impacted the people. You're like the 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.920 way you feel, the things that you learned, the perspective 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.280 that you gain. How do you feel when you do 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:10.400 things like that? You you feel selfless and um, it's 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.120 a term that we understand, but it's not a feeling 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.480 that we experience all the time. So you have this 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:20.720 feeling of there is so much more there's so there's 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.680 so much more important out there than me. There's so 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.080 much bigger of a picture than my life. There are 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.520 so many people out there who need things more than 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.679 I need things. So you just feel this sense of 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:40.360 of bigger than me, in this sense of goodness in 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:45.720 the world. And so my hope would be that you 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.040 would in a year from an hour or whenever you 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.280 would say, you know what a lot of people are 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.600 doing that. Yeah, I know a lot of people who 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.920 live that way. And because we're out here, we're striving 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.480 for us, us to us right, And I've the same 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.920 thing I was. I was trying to make it much 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.280 money as I could. And and we do that, right, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:14.160 we chase things, but in in and is stopping pursuing 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.960 the money and the fame and start pursuing things that 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.040 impact others and serve others in your life will be 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.320 just so much better. And it's hard to it sounds 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:31.040 kind of weird, but it's just I want people to 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.240 try it. I want I want people to hear my 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.000 words and go, no, that's not true, or just try 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.400 it one time for me and let me know. And 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.599 I want you to experience. I want people to experience 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:47.000 that feeling of being impactful and and seeking something that's 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:52.040 greater than yourself. When did you stop chasing as much like, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.400 when did you stop chasing? And when did you stop 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.960 chasing success and fame? When did you really commit to 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.280 this mindset? It was a slow process for me. It's 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.439 such a great model of Yeah, who was your model? Well? 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.080 What I was what I would call a model of 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:13.800 servant hood. And um, first of all, my parents. My 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:19.480 parents are people who, um, you know, blue collar, followed 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.080 with a teacher, and my mom stayed at home and 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:29.400 took care of four boys. Bless yes, so we're not 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:33.160 talking about a wealthy family. But they were always showing 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.679 us how if you give what you have and serve others. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.959 They would always loan someone in a car. They would always, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.319 you know, if someone was in town and we didn't 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.920 even know they needed a place to stay, they stayed 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:49.680 at our house. I mean, just constant um acts of service. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.440 So I had that model, but it was it was 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.400 really in college and in the pros where UM, people 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.920 started to encourage me, Hey would you come and speak 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.839 to this group of people, UM, or hey I'm going 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.920 Well a lot of times it would be speaking about 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:12.319 my faith um and and or speaking about my football experience. 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.960 And any time you get a chance to speak to 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.720 a group of young people, you really have to check 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.920 yourself and say, what do I have that these young 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.160 people can benefit from? So that's where you start talking 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.000 about Let me tell them about leadership. Let me tell 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.840 them about how did I get to state to play football. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.160 How did I get to the NFL? Then you start 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.760 talking about hard work and things like commitment and dedication, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.120 so um, it was then I think it was speaking 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.680 that really started me on the path of understanding that 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.880 I could be impactful to other people and and that 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:55.480 turned into service projects. So um halfitap for humanity. One 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.240 of my favorites. Just the fact that you can go 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.839 out and a group of people to build the house 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:05.720 for someone else in like four weekends. Blend so many 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.640 people just siting and getting drunk on the weekends, when 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.680 really you can go change a whole life. Oh, it's 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:15.679 amazing and people do this all the time. So if 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.959 you if we open our eyes, there are so many opportunities. Um, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.800 you don't have to give your life away, you don't 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.679 have to give all your money away. You just give 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.280 a little bit of time once a week, go to 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.640 and after school program. I mean, there's just so many opportunities. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.320 So for me, it was gradual process. And I'm not 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.840 there yet. You know, I still like to make money. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.880 There's nothing wrong with making It's about what's your where's 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.559 your heart at and and what's your purpose and all 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.720 those things. So what is your purpose? Man, the greatest 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.440 question ever asked. I know, are we all trying to 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:56.720 narrow that down? Life is a journey of finding purpose. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.120 You know. For myself, I know that God put me 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.319 on this earth. He gave me a lot of gifts 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.680 and talent and abilities. And for a long time I 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.560 thought football was my purpose. I believe it was. But 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.840 when I more so understand how I've gotten, you know, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:22.760 pretty wonderful good is that football is just something I 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:27.480 did to express myself and it was my it was 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.400 my avenue to be impactful. So my purpose is to 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:39.199 possibly impact people and more specifically positively impact them. Um 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.280 to find their own purpose. So I do that through 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.320 whatever it is that I'm doing. And it was football 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:52.199 for a time, you know, and now it's it's businesses speaking, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:59.840 is um certain? So let's talk about football. How did 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.000 did you grow up playing? Because are you from England? 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.120 Did you re raise in England? I was not raised there, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.760 but I was born there. Just one more layer to 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.160 your cool, just let you throw out there like, oh, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:20.000 by the way, you know, queen and good you know 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:34.120 you're the queen. Do we have some tea here? But okay, 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:39.040 right now, okay, I was wondering, wait till okay is 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:47.720 a holiday? Um, so it was. I moved to Michigan 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.440 actually a great state of Michigan. Okay, I'm trying to 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:57.840 just get all off in your necktime there you go. Okay, 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:02.520 when the people think that you know, you got it's 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:10.280 a nice neck. So I moved to Michigan when I 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:15.240 was very young, from England. From England Michigan. Well that's 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.440 where mother's from. Okay, yeah, my father's British from my 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.160 mom's from. So she moved to Britain for love. Yeah 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:29.080 whoa your m the story in itself yeah, okay, absolutely, yes, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.920 that's a shot man. We were quite dangerous, clearly moved 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.800 across the whole country for the whole the world for 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:45.160 a man. Not country, new country okay. Yeah. So it 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:50.720 was just growing up with my brother and I we 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.800 loved the game of football for no reason. All my 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.680 parents were athletes, um, and first of reason, the game 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.480 really just look you spoke to me and as a 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:06.200 sixth grader, bade my parents to play, and it was 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.320 I was in love from that point forward. I just 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.360 the game was made from me. I just love the 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:18.320 physical contact of it and just what was required of 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.440 you to be great? What is required to be great? 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.400 What's required is everything you have, So you like to 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.120 give it all to Oh my god, I I don't 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.560 know another way really, and I'm it's It's one of 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:38.040 the things I'm most proud of my ability to commit 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.720 to something and give it everything that I have. So 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.520 that is an amazing trait. By the way, it's what 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.400 it's what I did was football from day one. It 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.680 was like, as soon as that they showed me like, hey, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.680 this is what it takes. Oh okay, I just went 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.760 and it was that when it takes. What took to 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:02.240 be great for me was UM, working hards and everyone 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:09.280 I saw, and then UM allown myself to be pushed 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.760 to limits I never thought I could. So what happens 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.680 when you get to those limits and you actually do 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.600 more than you think you can't? What happens there? What 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.360 happens is you expange your mind. Because what we do 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.760 is we limit ourselves. We put um, we put feelings 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.119 or you know, we put stopping points on well, you know, 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.040 I could never do more than this, I could never 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.440 do more than that. And the problem with that is 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.240 is typically when we put those limits on ourselves, whether 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.800 I mean, this is life right, this could be reading, 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:49.040 this could be business, this could be whatever. And as 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.399 soon as we put those limits, then we actually we 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.600 subconsciously we make ourselves live those limits out. That's interesting. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.360 It's like telling yourself, and you know what, I'll never 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:05.240 get into med school. So you might go ahead and 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.040 try to study for the exam, but you you don't 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.879 pass it because you if I told yourself, I'm not 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.080 gonna get in if I won't, so you study with 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.800 that in your mind rather than saying I'm gonna get in. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.240 And therefore, when you're studying, you're thinking positive like I'm 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.919 gonna I need to pass this. I'm blah blah blah. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:28.119 But yeah, and so what's really The human mind is 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:33.080 so powerful. We we convince ourselves right or wrong. And 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:39.400 so for me, it was allowing a coach or a 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.280 teammate to push me beyond those limits that I had 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:46.880 set for myself and and understanding. I remember my high 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.240 school coach, um, he said, you know, it's a tim 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.000 look around you. You may be the best of what 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.320 you see, but there's people out there. You know, when 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.680 you go to college, everybody was the best of their 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:06.200 high schools. It's it's explaining your mind and setting new 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.919 limits and breaking through the old limits. So when you 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.840 first felt that, did it feel amazing? Oh? It's added. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.520 It's an addicting thing. Um. You can become addicted to 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:23.480 success or to even just achieving thing. Right, That's why 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.240 people set daily tasks for themselves. It feels good to 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.280 check off the bobs, like, hey, I did that, I 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.160 did that. Um, so we can use that in a 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:38.080 positive way. Right, you become addicted to getting better, become 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.760 addicted to improving yourself, become addicted to helping be I mean, 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.760 either things that can just propel humans do great heights. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.960 So you you love football. You discovered it when you 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.600 were like in fifth grade or whatever. When you said so, 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.800 then you decide you set this goal You're going to 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.080 go to Penn State. Is that a goal you set? Well, 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.560 it was the goal have to get a college scholarship somewhere. Okay, 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:10.240 so you got stake, Yeah, options you did. First, you 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:15.600 had a lot of timp show your shop are I mean, 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.240 as a high school kid, I'm not gonna lie to you. 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.000 I was a grown man. I mean like I grew 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:26.600 up so fast physically that when I was in high school. Man, 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.320 then who you ask? Okay, okay, but you've always be respectful, 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:43.000 of course, that's of course. I feel like we've got 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:48.879 a dog track. Okay, back on track. Because that was 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:54.760 so physically um advanced from my age. Colleges were very 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:59.200 tragic to me because I'm already size and speed that 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.000 they needed. So yeah, um, I had a lot of 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:06.120 college options. But George, Pennce State, why did you choose 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:11.440 pens State? Was m was different? It was far enough 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.480 from home but not too far. It was blue collar, 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:22.160 It was a very um story program, very respected, very big, 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.840 kind of all the things I wanted in the college program. 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:31.159 And I just really was blown away by the people 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.320 there when I went to visit. So I really had 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.840 a last defense that it was awesome. You love phin 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.600 Sate and you switched positions, like you played something at 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.679 Penn State and then your first college was not college? 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:48.239 Was Carolina? Right? Professional? So what did you play at 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:54.119 Penn State? So football is a game where yeah, the 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.520 younger you are, the more the coaches will try to 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.920 find a spot are you? And um, I was an athlete, 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.520 so I played running back in high school. I played 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:10.440 linebacker in high school, both those, but every college told 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.560 me I was going to be a linebacker. Well, I 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.560 got to Pense, I played running back. I thought that's 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.960 what I wanted to do, and I had some success, 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.040 but then they switched my position while I was there, 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:27.280 and ultimately I played linebacker and that that turned out. 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.520 It was difficult at a time, but um, it really 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.879 turned out to be a great thing. Obviously I played 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.640 in the Pros playing linebacker, so it was definitely a 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:42.080 positive change. So you went from you're now your linebacker. 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.919 You went to Penn State, Carolina Panthers, then you gotta 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:52.159 Jacksonville Jaguars, Chicago Bears, and then Tennessee Titans. Are you 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:56.240 changing positions? All these teams just changing teams. So we 0:22:56.280 --> 0:23:01.000 started special teams at Titans, right, So specialty teams is 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.720 not a different position, It's just a different phase of 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:12.880 the game. I think a big misconception about pro sports 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:17.760 and the NFL and specific is that you go somewhere, 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.280 you stay there for five years and you know, retired. 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:25.240 But a lot of guys jump around teams not because 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.720 they want to, they jump around because one team says 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:31.280 you're not good enough for one team. Says we have 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:36.480 some people like better or oh my gosh, oh my goodness. 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.600 So I was I was cut. I mean I was 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:46.119 cut four four times. How do you handle that well, 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:51.800 I mean it's uh, it's very humbling, obviously, but it's 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:55.400 those type of things where they make you just they 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.920 really make you check yourself and check your ego and really, 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.920 what do you believe in? How bad do you want 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.560 to play football? Because when when the man called you 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:11.440 upstairs and says, Tim, thank you for your time, but 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:17.960 we're gonna let you go. Um, you know that's difficult, 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:22.719 so you need to really I want I want to 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.240 go through it again and and fight for another chance. 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:30.840 So that four times I was yes over the court. 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.840 My first four NFL seasons, I'll paid for four different 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:41.480 teams ash. So that's emotionally exhausting. It wasn't amazing too well. 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.159 So playing football in the NFL is an amazing experience. 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.920 It's when I was a fifth grader, that's what I 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.320 wanted to do. So you'll be able to live out 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:54.680 your dream from from child. Who is really a special thing. 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.560 But you're a special club. Once again, not everyone does that. 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:03.320 You unique is unique. It's a very very small number 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.359 of people who make it to that level. But with 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.120 the good comes to bat and the bad was being cut, 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:17.160 moving every year, um, losing friends, you know, going through 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:22.200 just the instability of not having any job security and 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:28.280 no commitment. So just that that affects life, It affects everything. 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:35.080 So I was so committed to being a football player 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:40.119 and reaching my potential as an athlete that it was 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.640 just never an option for me to stop. So when 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:47.119 I got cut, even the third time, actually just kept 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.640 making me stronger because after the first time, I got 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.800 picked back up, and after the second time, I got 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.320 picked back up, So it made me I knew that 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.520 I could play this game and I could play at 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:02.040 this level. So it just built my confidence. And thank 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.840 goodness you got cut last time because you ended up 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.199 in Nashville exactly finally brought me to where I belong 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.560 and this is where you belong. It is Yeah, I 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.960 love it here. And I spent three and a half 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:17.760 seasons here playing which was fantastic, and really just enjoyed 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:24.399 making Nashville home, getting comfortable here, the people, not just 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:28.640 my teammate, but the people in the community across Point Church. 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.359 And I'm jealous that you and Pastor Peter actually like 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:37.560 real friends, aren't you. Well, you know, he's my celebrity crush. 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:42.840 We've gotten together. He's the coolest person, which is our 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.600 creature cross point. I'm a little bit jealous of his hair. 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.840 His hair, if I could have that hair, I mean, 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.880 would be a movie star, not a football player. Yeah, 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.080 I mean, I hear you that here is pretty fantastic 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.720 for anyone listening. Is Pastor Pete a cross point church 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:04.400 that we're talking about. You'll see google his face. Yeah. 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.800 So Nashville, you got to Nashville, what was your favorite team? Like, 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:13.679 where did you have the most fun? Well? I was 0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.680 not in Every city I played in was fun and 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:25.240 every city was a cool city. Charlotte's great City, the Beach, Chicago, 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.640 just always something going on. They love football so much. 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:33.119 But the reason that Tennessee was special. In Nashville, people 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:39.080 are so nice. But also just two be living down 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:45.200 thousand to have that Southern hospitality with I just love 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.280 to hear. But so I had a blast because I 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.200 got comfortable, and that was what made it so fun. 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:56.639 To be valued and to be um contributing members of 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.800 the team and to have success. That's what made the 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.200