Speaker 1: What's up. It's lip service. I'm Inteli, I'm g G Maguire,
Speaker 1: I'm Leah, and we're having a very educational lip service today.
Speaker 1: We have Venus Cup here with us. Hello. Hell, Venus
Speaker 1: is a dominatrix and um, we've been learning a lot
Speaker 1: about this. We did our research and you actually own
Speaker 1: a dungeon. So explain to us what goes on in
Speaker 1: the dungeon, because look, everybody thinks the fifty shades are great,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's been tane compared to the
Speaker 1: type of thing that can really go down. So talk
Speaker 1: to us about what it means for you to be
Speaker 1: at dom dominatrix and uh, what type of people are
Speaker 1: requesting your services? Um, fifty shades is nothing like what
Speaker 1: things are really like. They did not capture in essence,
Speaker 1: what we're all about as a community, because there actually
Speaker 1: is a community of of us that that kind of
Speaker 1: do this on a regular basis. This is our lifestyle.
Speaker 1: This is like, you know, I have forty two submissives
Speaker 1: and I can call them any time of the day
Speaker 1: I need drive here. They one of them gave me
Speaker 1: a ride. I call him my cab um taking to
Speaker 1: her appointments taking me to get my nails done. Um,
Speaker 1: sometimes they pay rents, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they give
Speaker 1: me a massage when I need. It's more of a lifestyle,
Speaker 1: it's more of an everyday thing is kind of unrealistic.
Speaker 1: And um, the way they kind of met each other
Speaker 1: at work and he's like a gazillionaire and she's like poor,
Speaker 1: and then they kind of there's like a red room
Speaker 1: in the back of his house somewhere. The whole thing
Speaker 1: is just like bizarre as fucked Like we were all
Speaker 1: like looking at the like, what the fund is this?
Speaker 1: It's bullshit? It's right, So all right, so explain to
Speaker 1: me how can somebody like get involved in this life?
Speaker 1: How did you get started as a as a dom? Yikes?
Speaker 1: So it's called dan's and subs. Right, how does the
Speaker 1: slaves what do you call them? Um? It depends on
Speaker 1: what your role is and what you feel more comfortable in. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's actually a difference between the submissive and a slave.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't even know that. What's the difference.
Speaker 1: So a slave gives up all their rights. Everything in
Speaker 1: d s M is power exchanges, right, Um, I give
Speaker 1: you my power, uh to have over me? And to
Speaker 1: tell me what to do and to request certain things. Um,
Speaker 1: how did the safest way to do is that we
Speaker 1: would have like for example, mooves me and you we
Speaker 1: would have a conversation. Um, and do it do it
Speaker 1: first right now? Um, I'm gonna pretend to be you're
Speaker 1: submissive ha ha um. So hi, I'm interested in you
Speaker 1: being my dumb sometimes that are happened like that? Um,
Speaker 1: and then what do you think? And then what do
Speaker 1: your qualifications have been? Experience? Yeah? Yeah, that is a
Speaker 1: question you ask how long have you been doing this?
Speaker 1: Have you served anyone before? You do have experience? What
Speaker 1: services can you offer me? Because if you have nothing
Speaker 1: to bring to the table, how are you serving me?
Speaker 1: If you can't drive me places, if you can't clean
Speaker 1: for me, if you can't cook for me, if you
Speaker 1: can't do my laundry, if we have a hope, if
Speaker 1: you can't take me to dinners and you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't do all these things, and you're not to fight
Speaker 1: one for me. But these are all questions you gotta
Speaker 1: ask from the jump. You can't ask halfway through. It's
Speaker 1: like a relationship. I want to know if you're married.
Speaker 1: I want to know if you have kids. I want
Speaker 1: to know if you have a stable income. You know,
Speaker 1: these are things you talk about. Well, David, I don't
Speaker 1: want to know, so you okay, So you would talk
Speaker 1: about these things first, that's the first thing. And they're
Speaker 1: called negotiations. And when you do negotiations contract, yes, and
Speaker 1: then you get to the contract after negotiation, Wait, do
Speaker 1: you go to dinner to have this negotiations? And side
Speaker 1: could be I recommend all of that. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know about the side walk like, okay, let's not
Speaker 1: get out your past about what you can offer me. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's just submissive. But wait, so how can they
Speaker 1: find you? So wait, what about a slave? Because you
Speaker 1: said there's a difference. Yea, So during these negotiations you
Speaker 1: would talk about power exchanges and in what way are
Speaker 1: these exchanges going to be had? So it can either
Speaker 1: be they are a sub A submissive is someone that
Speaker 1: is like a housewife, like they will They still have
Speaker 1: their own opinions, they still have saying certain things, but
Speaker 1: the ultimate decision lands on the dom. But they still
Speaker 1: have a voice. You can take their voice with a
Speaker 1: slave is complete opposite of that. They have no voice.
Speaker 1: They can say things that they want to do because legally,
Speaker 1: you know, by law, they have to say, like I
Speaker 1: consent to doing this, or I consent to being funcked in.
Speaker 1: He asked for fourteen hours or something like that. Listen,
Speaker 1: you domin you right now, But you guys know it's
Speaker 1: like a no pleasure. Man. Isn't the first day I
Speaker 1: don't think that you've done? I mean venice, you've done
Speaker 1: four teens. So yeah, the fifth. It wasn't nobody from
Speaker 1: Black Ink, was it? Oh? The fifth? Whoa I play
Speaker 1: the fifth? Damn it. It wasn't fourteen hours. It wasn't
Speaker 1: fourteen hours with with that person, but um yeah, I
Speaker 1: dominated that person times. Actually, are you taking that somebody
Speaker 1: from Black Ink because you wear I'm blacking. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: confidentiality agreement or not at all. They just never They've
Speaker 1: never done anything to me, and I've never done anything
Speaker 1: to them. And as a dumb that's just part of
Speaker 1: like colde. I wouldn't like out somebody. What you mean
Speaker 1: by outing is like, you know, exposed them to the
Speaker 1: world just because I don't get along with the shop anymore.
Speaker 1: Like that's not I don't I don't do things like that,
Speaker 1: like unless you unless I feel that I need to
Speaker 1: do certain things to get things done. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: just like be trashing you out on the streets just
Speaker 1: for like a come up or something like that. That's
Speaker 1: that's why to me. All right, we'll tell me about
Speaker 1: black ink and what happened. Oh wait, no, let's get
Speaker 1: to do this. Get We were asking, how do you like,
Speaker 1: how does the initial meet up or how do you
Speaker 1: guys like so how do we as dot com? Like
Speaker 1: so many questions? Can you put yourself out there as
Speaker 1: a mistress? How do your SUBMISSI find you to say? Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to I want you to dom me. There's
Speaker 1: several ways. Okay, so there are actual communities for this.
Speaker 1: There are things called munches where people actually meet up
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, munches just like lunches, but like lunching.
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds funny, black um correct um. And we met
Speaker 1: at like diners like restaurants and like you have like
Speaker 1: people thirty people all meet together kind of it's like
Speaker 1: a mixer in a way, but like everyone's talking getting
Speaker 1: to know each other. You can yourself munch mondays, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've met several of my subs through munches. Um.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they um like before I started going like a
Speaker 1: little more mainstream with uh, you know, the New York
Speaker 1: Post interview, Uh, doing some consulting for like other media
Speaker 1: outlets that I cannot mention because I actually do I
Speaker 1: have an agreement with them, um for some of the
Speaker 1: shows that they're working on right now. Before I started
Speaker 1: doing things like that, I actually, um for a while,
Speaker 1: used to meet subs through like places like Craigslist before
Speaker 1: I got shut though, um no, because what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do to me if they try to kidnap you
Speaker 1: with something. That's why it's best to meet in public.
Speaker 1: You meet somewhere publicly. You don't go anywhere like in
Speaker 1: the car or like you know, to their apartments. That's
Speaker 1: like a recipe for disasters either way. You know, now
Speaker 1: there for black Dominatrix is right? Most of your clients
Speaker 1: are white men. Oh yeah, successful white men because they
Speaker 1: have to have, like you said, have to have money
Speaker 1: in order to be able to afford this type of luxury.
Speaker 1: Several of them you have all heard of before, very wealthy,
Speaker 1: very well known Donald Trump. Uh No, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: doubt he definitely seemed like delight that would be hiring
Speaker 1: a hint hint. I wouldn't doubt it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: M He's word has been out on the street for
Speaker 1: a minute amongst us, like in our community, pictures have
Speaker 1: been like going around. That's all I'm gonna say, because
Speaker 1: it really has nothing to do with me. I've never
Speaker 1: seen this man, I've never met him before. We don't
Speaker 1: want you to get staffed at the airport. I sure do,
Speaker 1: and I'm not storming that. I know somebody. I'll smack everybody.
Speaker 1: So why do you explain why do you think a
Speaker 1: man would be into this? Because I know some guys
Speaker 1: are listening and like this sounds like a terrible idea,
Speaker 1: but they're a little bit intrigued. Uh. If any man
Speaker 1: sister says that they've never thought about a woman being
Speaker 1: on top, which is a form of domination in my opinion,
Speaker 1: If you have a woman on top, controlling strokes, controlling
Speaker 1: when you come, she's dominating you because she has control
Speaker 1: over that sexual situation. We gotta live dominant, yeah, because
Speaker 1: we all give head all Right, unless you're doing it
Speaker 1: because he told you too, then that still makes him
Speaker 1: in the person in control. That makes any sense, right,
Speaker 1: if you're doing it because like no, like right out,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna I'm gonna put this
Speaker 1: on you right now. Like that's that's you dominating him, right,
Speaker 1: You're the dominant situation yours. It's true too, who s
Speaker 1: series a dog? She's letting it be known. You know,
Speaker 1: I never heard accidentally summons me. I've never heard the
Speaker 1: boy that sorry a lot of power in this working out.
Speaker 1: Sorry work apple. Um, back to how you got started, right?
Speaker 1: What was your first? Um? Who was in l A
Speaker 1: was in Los Angeles? Um. When I was in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I started like meeting different guys. UM. I met one
Speaker 1: guy at a coffee shop. He was a lot older
Speaker 1: than me. And the first thing I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it wasn't like, oh, this seems
Speaker 1: like a nice person to do whatever. It's like he
Speaker 1: probably has a lot of money. Like, let's see where
Speaker 1: this is going, Like it's gonna be I was nineteen
Speaker 1: at the time. If you're gonna be that old talking
Speaker 1: to me and you don't have any money. So he's like,
Speaker 1: I would love to take you out on a day.
Speaker 1: I can take you here and I can tell you there.
Speaker 1: I'm like Okay, well where will we go? I want
Speaker 1: to know where you're gonna take me. I want to
Speaker 1: know what your pockets are, looking at what car you're
Speaker 1: driving out the lot of everything. And so he's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he mentioned like a five star restaurant, you know,
Speaker 1: and like he's talked about meeting at a five star
Speaker 1: hotel and like, you know, ordering the best of the best,
Speaker 1: giving me gifts and things like that. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well this seems cool. And then I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, like I don't understand, like why I'm still
Speaker 1: around this guy if he can't do more for me,
Speaker 1: Like dinners are nice and everything cool, But like what
Speaker 1: if he would have said Chick fil a? All right,
Speaker 1: so you continue, sorry, that would have been a rob
Speaker 1: But if he took you in his lambo though, and
Speaker 1: then took your shopping after, y'all was just going to
Speaker 1: Chick fil a because he liked Mercedes one day to
Speaker 1: Purce the next. So I was like okay with him,
Speaker 1: okay um, And he actually I found out later on
Speaker 1: he actually owns a talent company in Los Angeles. Um
Speaker 1: so um. He told me that he had been in
Speaker 1: the lifestyle for years that at that time of the
Speaker 1: nineteen I have no idea what the lifestyle means or
Speaker 1: any of these terms. He said, he's been a lifestyle
Speaker 1: for over like twenty years. He's an older white man.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't that man gay? Like if a guy he
Speaker 1: said to me, I wanted to be I've been in
Speaker 1: the lifestyle for a while, the first thing, for some reason,
Speaker 1: I would have been like, Okay, so you've been gay.
Speaker 1: That's what I would have that. I guess that's why
Speaker 1: I body doth. No. I don't know what the hell.
Speaker 1: But if you say lifestyle, they like being uh with doms?
Speaker 1: They like being stuck. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of rappers are like being with doms.
Speaker 1: I'll just put that out there. You've pad some celebrity kind,
Speaker 1: but you're not allowed to out them. I am not
Speaker 1: allowed to out them because I want to continue to
Speaker 1: work with them. Yeah, and like, you don't even do it.
Speaker 1: That's not why you do. Like you don't do things
Speaker 1: like this if it's a business, You're not doing it
Speaker 1: to put the next person's business out. And the reason
Speaker 1: why they trust you is because they know that you're
Speaker 1: not going to put out there, So why break that trust?
Speaker 1: Like the same after something you know what I told
Speaker 1: you did this ship every day because in the strip
Speaker 1: club community, it's the same thing, you know, like when
Speaker 1: these guys are coming and spending all this money on
Speaker 1: you doing whatever they're doing for you, especially those that
Speaker 1: are famous or rappers, are married or whatever, they don't
Speaker 1: want their business out there. They're trusting it. You're gonna
Speaker 1: keep the business and believe it or not no matter
Speaker 1: how unless they did something outrageous like assaulted you or
Speaker 1: something like that and you need to come forward. I
Speaker 1: don't really believe, just like that's what you said. But
Speaker 1: I also personally, like morally don't believe it just dragging
Speaker 1: people for no reason. Like there are a lot of girls,
Speaker 1: like I noticed, like a lot of like trans women,
Speaker 1: like they sometimes they do that, like they get mad
Speaker 1: at a celebrity for sleeping with them or not, whatever
Speaker 1: the issue is, and then they go all over social
Speaker 1: media outing them. Like do you think you're gonna get
Speaker 1: any more clients after that? Nobody's gonna trust you. But
Speaker 1: I feel like people do because like even like superher
Speaker 1: about her book, right, people still it was messing with
Speaker 1: her after that you know. See, I don't want how
Speaker 1: to get jammed out, but I'm nosy and I just
Speaker 1: want to know who. Yeah, it's a lot, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Okay, So back to your first assignment.
Speaker 1: So my first first this older So this older guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call him Jim for for all because
Speaker 1: I can't. It's like older guy can't keep saying like
Speaker 1: older guys a little bit. So German Jimmy So German Jim. Basically,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, He's like, I want to tell
Speaker 1: you something. I don't want you to judge me. I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna tell me had like an STD
Speaker 1: or something in careable because he made it seem so serious.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, holy sh it, like what is right now?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Um? Which I don't judge people for
Speaker 1: by the way, UM. And I was like, yo, he's
Speaker 1: about to prut my bag? What's going on? And then
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, you know, like he started showing me
Speaker 1: like videos and I'm like, why are we watching this?
Speaker 1: And I'm and he's like, because you know this is
Speaker 1: stuff that I like, this is like the lifestyle I've
Speaker 1: been in for twenty years. And um, he introduced me
Speaker 1: to the scene that way, So we went to the
Speaker 1: first fetish party. Um. Up until that point though, I've
Speaker 1: been telling him what to do anyway, because I just
Speaker 1: it was just like he has no he had no backbones.
Speaker 1: To this day, he still does and I still know him.
Speaker 1: We still um, he has no backbones. So I just
Speaker 1: figured he's one of those dudes that's just older and
Speaker 1: just maybe lonely or desperate. He's none of those things.
Speaker 1: I in the office, he's he's they said, those are
Speaker 1: the people that really liked to higher because they're still
Speaker 1: used to being in charge. They want to be dominated
Speaker 1: at times. So what was the first thing you did
Speaker 1: to him? Um? Like your first initially like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is look at the face him. I don't know what's happening. So, um,
Speaker 1: he really likes nipple play, he likes anal play, and
Speaker 1: he really really enjoys CBT. CBT is calling Bolt twicture. Um.
Speaker 1: So I we went to such shop, really well known
Speaker 1: such shop. UM in l A shout out to Pleasure Chest,
Speaker 1: which we had that in New York too. They also
Speaker 1: sponsored my party, so I love them. Shout out to
Speaker 1: you guys West Village. You know, I love you guys.
Speaker 1: I've been in Pleasure Chess a few times around where
Speaker 1: is it. It's just Seventh Avenue in the West Village.
Speaker 1: They're awesome, And so we went to the one in
Speaker 1: l A at this time when I was still over there,
Speaker 1: and we were like picking out different things, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, I felt a little weird and also being
Speaker 1: out in public with him for the first time, because
Speaker 1: that's actually because people like what's going on here? And
Speaker 1: I was I looked young. I looked really young, nineteen
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of skinn You're also you know,
Speaker 1: a young black girl with an older white man. People
Speaker 1: already have their like give me looks, like we know
Speaker 1: what you're doing kind of thing. The cops on him, Um,
Speaker 1: so he were like in the like the section with
Speaker 1: all the didos on the wall, he goes and picks
Speaker 1: off the biggest one, and I'm like, a black guy.
Speaker 1: It was it was, how do you know that big
Speaker 1: black like this one like this big he's been around
Speaker 1: for twenty years, twenty years, you know all of that, right,
Speaker 1: So um, He's like, I want to I want to
Speaker 1: use this one. And I'm like at first, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to look too stupid either because I hadn't
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to do a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 1: I take it till you make it. So my maid
Speaker 1: picked out like different so toys and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh what about that one. He's like, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: have that already of my house. We can just use
Speaker 1: that one. And I like, how much time do you
Speaker 1: have in your house? And he's like, you'll see what. Um.
Speaker 1: So we get back to his house. He had like
Speaker 1: a whole two playrooms for uh, he has playrooms in
Speaker 1: his house. It was a really big house, actually very beautiful. Um.
Speaker 1: And he has two playrooms for one playroom is um design.
Speaker 1: If his mistress at the time wants to bring other
Speaker 1: people into the house to play with, then she can
Speaker 1: pick a room. Okay. So that I thought that was
Speaker 1: really cool of him. Um, very sweet of him, very sweet. UM.
Speaker 1: And I've sucked the shot out of him. So was
Speaker 1: his asset. It was wide opening ready because he's been
Speaker 1: used to this because he had a big black dick
Speaker 1: in him. Um. It actually is not as easy to
Speaker 1: get in no matter how long you do it, Like
Speaker 1: the muscles will still go back to try to go
Speaker 1: back to the way. It's supposed to be. Um, your
Speaker 1: first time pegging. Oh, that's not pegging. Pegging. That was
Speaker 1: that was a funk between pegging and for me, pegging
Speaker 1: is like something Oh we haven't rually here. How convenient.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you brought it here? Of course, what's
Speaker 1: the sex like we have here? It's like those little
Speaker 1: things you would hurt in the butt just to get right,
Speaker 1: just to get used to the dido like a plug, right,
Speaker 1: you know, like things like that. That's pegging to me,
Speaker 1: that's a little peg is like you know, the whole
Speaker 1: decken like a whole film. Wasn't like manual or did
Speaker 1: you strip one? Um? At first, I didn't manual because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do strate. You know the terms
Speaker 1: and every time like manual, look at it. You cannot
Speaker 1: tell me you ain't did know? I watched laporn? Now yeah,
Speaker 1: you watch it with the value. Oh no, none of that.
Speaker 1: I've never heard manual before. And now we're about to
Speaker 1: go take it off automatic put it on. You can't
Speaker 1: switch it around to both like I put on gloves
Speaker 1: and like he had to like there's a whole process, right,
Speaker 1: so it takes like two hours if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: thorough about it. To be prepared to do like an
Speaker 1: fucking for something that big, you gotta get the little ready.
Speaker 1: You gotta like get an enimal. I was gonna ask
Speaker 1: you gotta clean so you gave him an enimunt or
Speaker 1: he did it himself. I'm not doing that. I'm not
Speaker 1: playing around with ship or anything like that. If I
Speaker 1: even see it, I'm probably smacking. So nobody asked you
Speaker 1: the ship on them, asked me to shoot on them.
Speaker 1: People have asked, but I'm not into the smell. You
Speaker 1: fucking some mindy with a big black deil dog. To
Speaker 1: get prepared. Even now, I would still think like that's
Speaker 1: a big dick. Have accidents happen, Yeah, that's what happened once,
Speaker 1: and I beat the ship out of him and he
Speaker 1: loved it. He loved it. He's been calling ever the
Speaker 1: way you tell us what happened, I gotta hear this.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was horrible. So we met at
Speaker 1: a hotel. This is somebody that I've actually known for
Speaker 1: a long time, like they were coming to my parties
Speaker 1: for a while. I thought this person was so cool
Speaker 1: and they were so experienced. They seem knowledgeable about you know,
Speaker 1: all these things. I said, be ready by the time
Speaker 1: I get there, because I don't plan on being there
Speaker 1: for three four hours while you get ready, ready, getting
Speaker 1: in and the right get it exactly. Get everything together.
Speaker 1: So when we get there, we can play and I
Speaker 1: can leave because I want to go home, but I
Speaker 1: do want to play with you, and I want to take,
Speaker 1: you know, time to spend time with you. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I get there and he's like, I got everything ready.
Speaker 1: I did everything. I'm like, okay, cool. We start playing
Speaker 1: and I should you not? Oh my god, hi should
Speaker 1: you know? Maybe five minutes into it, like I started
Speaker 1: like smelling stuff because I was I had my okay,
Speaker 1: I had my hand on his head, I was pulling
Speaker 1: his hair. I was like grabbing him on the side.
Speaker 1: I have like these these claws that you can put
Speaker 1: on your fingers, so I had him like with my
Speaker 1: other hand and craw pulling his hair and him at
Speaker 1: the same time. So then I'm like talking to him.
Speaker 1: I'm telling him you like this stupid little bit whatever.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like getting the smell and I'm like,
Speaker 1: hold on a second, I just I stopped and I
Speaker 1: let all his hair and then I like pulled out
Speaker 1: and then he just shipped over. I was like, get guy,
Speaker 1: so did you bean in a while he was shitty
Speaker 1: or did you clean? He clean? So this? Did you
Speaker 1: be her shitty as? Yes? Yes I do. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I took this unbuckle the straps on the side. Did
Speaker 1: you make him eat? I'm not into none of that
Speaker 1: would have like eat this. I'm kidding. Don't get racist. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you know I'm talking about two girls? One cup
Speaker 1: was the two girls and I thought those were they
Speaker 1: were a wait that shade the weekend ship and he
Speaker 1: loved you whatever? No, no, no, it wasn't like it
Speaker 1: wasn't I should probably shouldn't even be saying, to be honest.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even like like just how dare you? You're
Speaker 1: such a That was like, yo, you really fucking ship
Speaker 1: it on me, like the ship on right? That's not cool.
Speaker 1: I was so fucking man going here. And he called
Speaker 1: me afterwards. He sent me tribute, tribute, just like when
Speaker 1: they send money to like, you know, just make you happy, rightute,
Speaker 1: I need a tribute? Okay, I know. We never says
Speaker 1: I need tribute. Literally, yeah, I hear that, literally tribute.
Speaker 1: I see these shoes, they look nice. Tribute. I got
Speaker 1: to start doing that. Sometimes I don't even say the word.
Speaker 1: It's like I kind of like, kind of like the
Speaker 1: word tribute. He sent me to two thousand dollars. He
Speaker 1: was sorry. Um, I told him that I had to do.
Speaker 1: I threw the entire outfit away. I was so freaking mad,
Speaker 1: Like he was trying to say sorry, he was like
Speaker 1: trying whatever. Never played with him again, but I'm still
Speaker 1: cool with him. We still friends. Whatever we're talking. You
Speaker 1: would never seen him again. Hell no, But it's an accident. Though.
Speaker 1: I told him to get ready before that. He text
Speaker 1: me he's you know, he was ready. He planned that ship.
Speaker 1: He literally, yes, he was ready. I want to that.
Speaker 1: I hope to currently. I want to say forty two
Speaker 1: to forty five. A couple of them all about to
Speaker 1: get jobs soon because they're not making me happy? Of them?
Speaker 1: Do you like fucking ass um It depends. Some of
Speaker 1: them are married and their wife knows. Some of them
Speaker 1: are married, but they say their wife knows. But I
Speaker 1: think they're lying about that clearly, Like how many women
Speaker 1: are you know? I'm gonna be like, oh, that's okay.
Speaker 1: If you see another woman for stuff I can't give you. Um,
Speaker 1: you like billions, No, I don't. I don't watch much TV.
Speaker 1: I lost I lost faith after certain So let's just
Speaker 1: say that we wanted to have like some of your
Speaker 1: steps come like intern and run and run and do
Speaker 1: some stuff first for the service they could you can
Speaker 1: send them over here and be like, yeah, I need
Speaker 1: you to go by Angela g and um lurias and
Speaker 1: bags and stuff we need they need simply leminated. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: that's for men. They would also be like kind of
Speaker 1: like intimidated by all three of you because of like
Speaker 1: industry people, and these are industry people, make any sense,
Speaker 1: so they like I have some submissives that are just
Speaker 1: like Joe Schmo's they like have regular nine to five
Speaker 1: jobs or whatever, but some of them are not. And
Speaker 1: those are the people that have the coin to provide.
Speaker 1: Can gem and Jim come like is very nice? Also
Speaker 1: very we are he's very paranoid, right, Okay, I got
Speaker 1: it all right, So um now let's get some training
Speaker 1: here because let's just says like the closest I think
Speaker 1: to being a dumb it might be your partner. I
Speaker 1: think you're working together. I think you are to be.
Speaker 1: I really do you have the natural demeanor personality. But
Speaker 1: I think like in terms of like training somebody that
Speaker 1: has untapped potential to be one of the best. I
Speaker 1: think you have that Mrs Angela talking about I would
Speaker 1: make him eat the ship. Nobody heard that I would
Speaker 1: make it. All right, but let's let's let's do some
Speaker 1: some training. Let's just say, right, for some women out
Speaker 1: there that are listening, they want to get into the lifestyle. Okay,
Speaker 1: what what should we start with? Um? Classes learning how
Speaker 1: to use toys, because if you don't know how to
Speaker 1: use them and you use them on people, you can
Speaker 1: injure somebody really bad. Like, we don't want to interest
Speaker 1: someone with some CBT, right, so you need to know
Speaker 1: where to hit. We're not to hit to talk about
Speaker 1: CBT since all right, let's train us in that first. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what are some things we need to know about
Speaker 1: cock and book twitterure. I should have probably about building
Speaker 1: for this, but um, there's like a whole Dan has one,
Speaker 1: there's about So let's say this is leiness. Use are
Speaker 1: the balls? Right? Okay? Oh? This is actually a hood
Speaker 1: that fresh you. Oh no, pressure, the pressure? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We have some Okay, yeah, he wants to be part
Speaker 1: of this. Okay, Okay, we're clack and ball. Here we go. Um,
Speaker 1: so this is the dick, these are the balls, right,
Speaker 1: So if you're trying to do like any type of
Speaker 1: domination or something, you can simply tie the rope all
Speaker 1: around the dick and the balls and make it as
Speaker 1: tight as possible until it turns purple. I've seen that,
Speaker 1: and when it's nice, I really I personally enjoy this
Speaker 1: because when it's nice and like turning different colors. Um,
Speaker 1: that's when you can get something like this and starts
Speaker 1: smacking the ship out of it. It It hurts so much.
Speaker 1: It's beauty and so much. It's the most beautiful thing
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. Or you kids, Harry Snacker, Anya, see,
Speaker 1: I knew it. She does this competition in female domination,
Speaker 1: there's no woman against woman bullshit. There's none of them.
Speaker 1: We like you know how men there's really no conversation
Speaker 1: with men as certain industries like we can all win
Speaker 1: together type of ship and with female domination there really
Speaker 1: it's female supremacy. There really shouldn't be any competition. It's
Speaker 1: like you're my sister and we're going to dominate him, him, him,
Speaker 1: and him to get it. So this is really great
Speaker 1: for female empowerment, double dominatrix, double dom sessions and this.
Speaker 1: So I've read articles if I had this can really
Speaker 1: help women in the workplace as far as it's serting
Speaker 1: themselves and not taking no ship from anybody at work.
Speaker 1: I've had to use that tactic a couple of times
Speaker 1: at different places that I've worked or um, you know,
Speaker 1: running a business or kind of like doing my own thing,
Speaker 1: like uh yeah, holding myself accountable for my own my
Speaker 1: own winnings and failings and life. Um, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: dominate somebody else, you have to dominate your own life first.
Speaker 1: You have to kind of take control of your surroundings
Speaker 1: who you're friends with, and say this person is not
Speaker 1: good for me, this person is good for me, this
Speaker 1: person is negative and they're bringing me down. Or you know,
Speaker 1: I can eliminate the negative, embrace the positive, speak positive
Speaker 1: affirmations to myself every day, Um, make myself better, and
Speaker 1: then I have the right to dominate somebody else because
Speaker 1: they believe me. Now, that's a heart that as a
Speaker 1: daminated genes supposed to sleep with your selves. Is that true,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a good idea to sleep. It's
Speaker 1: not because a lot of women I believe in my
Speaker 1: personal opinion, right, and I know a lot of feminists.
Speaker 1: You know, they probably like to come for people that
Speaker 1: say things like this, But your vagina holds a lot
Speaker 1: of power in this world as much as people like
Speaker 1: to say. And this is no disrespect to any trans
Speaker 1: woman out there that doesn't have a vagina. It does not.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying does not take away from you being
Speaker 1: a woman at all. Okay, what I'm saying is like
Speaker 1: for sis gendered women, having a vagina is powerful for us,
Speaker 1: and in this world, they take that away from us.
Speaker 1: They say that doesn't make you proberful, makes you weak. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't be a pussy. Uh, don't you know you're acting
Speaker 1: like a little girl. They always everything that with us
Speaker 1: is always run by like weak um submission and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always like something very like you know, they talk
Speaker 1: about like meat us emasculated member. They emasculate us all
Speaker 1: the time. They put us down all the time. You know.
Speaker 1: The girls been like secon night dick. Yeah, to have
Speaker 1: me to feel like they have more power, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's right, there, you know, and so like, I feel
Speaker 1: like when you sleep with a man and you just
Speaker 1: give him that power, you kind of lose some of it.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're going to sleep with someone,
Speaker 1: let it be because they have proved to you that
Speaker 1: they are worthy of it, If that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like on some Christian ship like only
Speaker 1: don't sleep with a man because it makes you dirty.
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with that. I don't believe women
Speaker 1: that sleep around or dirty at all. I know, um,
Speaker 1: I believe um. But you know, if you you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do with your body is your decision,
Speaker 1: is your choice. If you want to a hundred guys
Speaker 1: in one night, be safe about it. Yeah, But does
Speaker 1: that make her a dirty or slut? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Not my opinion, I'm not I'm not gonna judge. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But she has a lot. It's like getting
Speaker 1: his book a world record, and she's probably really good
Speaker 1: at what she does because they all come to her
Speaker 1: for if she's such a whole, why they why they
Speaker 1: sleep with her? Right? If she's so dirty? Yes, what
Speaker 1: do you? What do you? So? The thing is like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't judge her for like being a whore or slurt.
Speaker 1: I would judge her because she's not holding herself to
Speaker 1: a higher standard. She's not looking at herself and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm worth more than this to just pass myself around
Speaker 1: to everybody. I've realized that, Like, and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know any dumb that would say, you know, I
Speaker 1: never slept with this submissive. That's not true. I know
Speaker 1: plenty of times to sleep with selbs. They just stick
Speaker 1: around long after that because you gave him everything. I've
Speaker 1: been with German Gym since I was nineteen and never
Speaker 1: fucked him. We've never fucked and he's still around and
Speaker 1: he's never gonna have sex with me. He knows that
Speaker 1: he will be on his deathbed begging for vagina from
Speaker 1: me and we'll never get it. He smile at him
Speaker 1: and close his eye lids for him at least on
Speaker 1: the well that's two inch, no two inches. And that's
Speaker 1: another thing right there, serves up when you talk about
Speaker 1: how little there dick is and like you rate them yea,
Speaker 1: and the humiliation a little button. Do you do have
Speaker 1: the humiliation? I do that if we like, if we negotiate,
Speaker 1: like I just said, let me if we do that
Speaker 1: like um. If we do that, like you know, like um,
Speaker 1: like we agree on that, then that's totally fun. If
Speaker 1: we agree that public umulation is that thing, that's really fine.
Speaker 1: Like for example, German Gen he's a CEO of a company.
Speaker 1: He don't want that of a well known talent agency.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna want to do public umulation because at
Speaker 1: his job and to his peers, he is the man.
Speaker 1: When people see me with him, they just think, oh,
Speaker 1: she's a long term sugar baby slash girlfriend, slash whatever
Speaker 1: she is. But in public he always has to appear
Speaker 1: like he has control. But behind closed doors we all
Speaker 1: know it's a different story. Right. See we over here
Speaker 1: giving away public humulation for free. When we argue what
Speaker 1: I mean, we could be getting paid for We could
Speaker 1: be getting paid for that saying very quiet, I don't
Speaker 1: argue with people. So do you have to work or
Speaker 1: is this just yet full time? This is work? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That yeah dungeon? Okay, so how do people like find
Speaker 1: your dungeon? Like, how do they know that you have
Speaker 1: this place where they can how can they contact you? Um?
Speaker 1: So there's my aunties are very limited when it comes
Speaker 1: to things like this because I know people are trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how can we find Venus Cup, how
Speaker 1: can we get involved? I mean I have an Instagram.
Speaker 1: I teach classes all around the city. I host events
Speaker 1: all around the city. We should go to the class.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that that's a good idea. UM. I have
Speaker 1: like a lot of industry. I have. I teach a
Speaker 1: lot of like you know, older white women on the
Speaker 1: Upper West Side as well, Like I go to their
Speaker 1: house and I give them like class on how to
Speaker 1: spice up their sex life using like household items, using
Speaker 1: like belts, cooking spoons and all of that play with
Speaker 1: that's why you can't eat people. I wouldn't recommend that.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and base this. Chicken and
Speaker 1: is another one that people underestimate, not just for blow jobs,
Speaker 1: but like for for domination purposes. Running ice along somebody's skin.
Speaker 1: The sensation of that feels really good. Um, using the
Speaker 1: tip of your nails to lightly run over someone's skin,
Speaker 1: it feels really good. Like things like that are really cool. Now,
Speaker 1: let's talking about finances, right because I know it can vary,
Speaker 1: like as much as how much do you charge per hours?
Speaker 1: So just give us a range, you know, like if
Speaker 1: people were getting started, how much would you recommend? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just say you're new at this, how much? So
Speaker 1: you don't undersell yourself. So what I am going to
Speaker 1: say is that I used to be there's like a
Speaker 1: difference between lifestyle dom and professional dom. Professional JOm is
Speaker 1: like the people you see the dungeons charging per hour.
Speaker 1: Lifestyle didn't cuss money. The dungeon cos money. Um. Lifestyle
Speaker 1: people that just do it because that's who they are.
Speaker 1: I'm both more was both. I'll say that um and um.
Speaker 1: So what's up? I rs so? But the advice I
Speaker 1: would give someone because I used to be a dominatrix is, uh,
Speaker 1: don't undersell yourself. So if like someone, a client comes
Speaker 1: to you and says, I want to have a session
Speaker 1: with you for eighty dollars an hour or a hundred
Speaker 1: dollars an hour, you know, even though you feel like
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any other sessions after that, or
Speaker 1: you loan money to turn that shut down, turn that down.
Speaker 1: So what should be the minimum? I mean when I
Speaker 1: first started, I started out in a dungeon in l
Speaker 1: a UM and I'm not gonna mention it because I
Speaker 1: don't have the permission to mention it. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna feel weird, but it was
Speaker 1: to fifty an hour, So that's like the that's I
Speaker 1: think that's like more the standard, right. And as you
Speaker 1: get more um into the lifestyle and you have more
Speaker 1: clients and you become more exclusive and you can charge more.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't recommend like just jump in a six
Speaker 1: hundred an hour and you just started like, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: What's the most popular service that people ask for? Antal play?
Speaker 1: Antal play? You know, pleasure, mind banking, venus cup and
Speaker 1: manipple play, bare hand uh, spankings and face slapping, face slapping?
Speaker 1: What's two fifty? Excuse me, Tom's fourteen? You think about
Speaker 1: somebody for fourteen and what I'm gonna end up with
Speaker 1: as session? You would never charge to fifty for an
Speaker 1: anal session. I don't listen hypothetically trying to pay out
Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking, I would charge four. Okay, so four I
Speaker 1: would never charge that's almost six. Thus, when al was
Speaker 1: like the base of everything, that's almost six thousand. Fifth,
Speaker 1: get you in the door, to get you in the door,
Speaker 1: that's time you can you can kiss my feet. You
Speaker 1: can crawl on the floor. I'm gonna scream with you.
Speaker 1: I'll call your names, right, I'll flog you, you know
Speaker 1: all the all the stars. Is this a flog? That
Speaker 1: is a flogger? Okay, I've never heard of that. Tell
Speaker 1: me was this flog flog? I'm my nub. I would
Speaker 1: probably need to demonstrate this. Come on, when are you guys?
Speaker 1: Lother flogs don't have to put the camera now like
Speaker 1: you've been on camera the cameration I doesn't have doing
Speaker 1: his job because he needs to be displayed because he
Speaker 1: wasn't bad boy. Come on, let's get a life flogging everyone.
Speaker 1: You agree to a life flogging earlier? Hard you're come on,
Speaker 1: I have to say something. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm the prime clients, uh I was. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: session with anybody or play with anyone, consent is the key.
Speaker 1: That is what differences me between everyone else in the
Speaker 1: b d S. I'm scene because a lot of them
Speaker 1: are consent virulators. They don't get people's consent before they
Speaker 1: do stuff, which is totally fine. I'm not one of
Speaker 1: those bitches. I don't believe in that ship. To me,
Speaker 1: that's rape. On on some kind of level. You don't
Speaker 1: must consent. I don't want to just sorry, I'll get
Speaker 1: over here and get fla. It's okay to rape yea?
Speaker 1: Does you ever say okay? Okay? Flagging g is right now? No,
Speaker 1: she's more of a dom to me, you're more redmant
Speaker 1: me with you. I can't tell you d like whatever
Speaker 1: that is. I don't want to put you on the
Speaker 1: spot in the bedroom. Does the man take controller? Do
Speaker 1: you me in the bedroom? Yeah? It depends. I'll let
Speaker 1: him if I felt like letting him. But when I'm
Speaker 1: ready to do it, I'll do it. Okay, that then
Speaker 1: you're what we call a switch dom. A switch and
Speaker 1: a switch can go that. I'm definitely see both. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this both, Larry. I'll have cried during sex.
Speaker 1: I've never done that. Like you guys are like like
Speaker 1: a tear just that's a sub. That's sub ship crying,
Speaker 1: not crying like it's like it's like it just feels
Speaker 1: so bawling, but crying over what the dick is? It
Speaker 1: feels good. I told you she's a sub. Amazing, it
Speaker 1: feels good the dick like not every day, No, it's
Speaker 1: not every every day this was a hell of a dick.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've had amazing sexual experiences with with penis involved,
Speaker 1: and I've never felt that strongly. But I was like
Speaker 1: like Michael John and emotional when I cried, and another
Speaker 1: time it was break up, make up sex. Don't you
Speaker 1: feel like? We keep writing? So, who wants to get flogged?
Speaker 1: He's standing? Yes, these are the subding they cried during
Speaker 1: where c come on? She said, children, Yeah, go ahead
Speaker 1: do it. No, No, we should be long. It should
Speaker 1: have somebody should have got flogged direct, I really do. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think one of the guys should be flogged. I
Speaker 1: told you that's what it's supposed to be, life flogged
Speaker 1: in a life flog. Hold on, Hold on a second.
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me that none of you
Speaker 1: have ever thought about a woman dominating? You never wanted
Speaker 1: a woman on top? Which Buddha, which cheer man? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm deaf out the next because a woman being on
Speaker 1: top as a part of I gotta see him what
Speaker 1: a flog is. But he's just a minute that he
Speaker 1: would that he has. All right, So let's talk about
Speaker 1: other things that that's on the menu. Right, So if
Speaker 1: people want to how are your dominatrix. What are some
Speaker 1: other popular things that you do? What about fisting? Come
Speaker 1: get flog, Buddha, come in here a light time. It's
Speaker 1: a light flog. No, no, don't tell him what it's for.
Speaker 1: Just tell him to come in. It's not funny. I'm
Speaker 1: there serious, I want you to put too much? All right,
Speaker 1: so let's continue while we wait for him to I'm
Speaker 1: not doing the funny ship. No, it's not. It's nothing
Speaker 1: funny about this. I do a lot of like face
Speaker 1: slapping speaking, I do a lot of demos and classes
Speaker 1: also so people know how do you use stuff like
Speaker 1: how do you use the bell? How to do some
Speaker 1: choking if you want to choke someone during sex, because
Speaker 1: that's like really dangerous. What's the safety way? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: because we had that, yes, absolutely, that's a part of negotiations,
Speaker 1: um and consent. So in order to know that somebody
Speaker 1: is having it, that it's too much him, don't warn him.
Speaker 1: In orted to know if it's too much or too
Speaker 1: little whatever, then they have to establish the safety word.
Speaker 1: And you know that's not neighbor produced a Buddha. Hey,
Speaker 1: budd we need you to demonstrate something now, Hello to
Speaker 1: venus A have you done this before? He doesn't know
Speaker 1: what he's doing, but just want to give you a
Speaker 1: life flogging life flogging. Yeah, it's like jogging, but with
Speaker 1: fl So come on, we want to demonstrate. What does
Speaker 1: he have to do? He puts up up. Come on,
Speaker 1: Notice that there's no eye contact anymore. Um. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just a normal whom you being that likes flogging people.
Speaker 1: So this is a pay for this, by the way,
Speaker 1: you can touch the people. Pay for this. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: getting okay, just can you just be open my note
Speaker 1: with me, just to touch it, hold it. Okay. So
Speaker 1: this is just that's a flogger and I'm just going
Speaker 1: to be it feels nice and let us go. So
Speaker 1: fucking you lightly with it your back? Okay, you're on.
Speaker 1: That's your your army can be your back. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: or budded, what's your food? Are you perfect? What's your
Speaker 1: safety word? What's your what's safe? If you're if you're tired,
Speaker 1: or you don't want to do it anymore. That's that's
Speaker 1: two words. You gotta that's a terrible word. That's that's
Speaker 1: a good one. No, no, because you could be saying that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, that's true too. But if he's saying
Speaker 1: that that's the safe word for his scene, then don't worry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't give him a safe work and let him
Speaker 1: have his own. How about baseball because you want to
Speaker 1: say baseball? I think that was a good one. Yeah, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I need space. Alright, Well back down, don't
Speaker 1: you worry. I'm a table. Can I do it on
Speaker 1: your chat? Yeah? Cha chess? Okay, take that hoodie? Can
Speaker 1: you stand against the walls of Okay, and I'm on
Speaker 1: the wall. We like it on the on the wall.
Speaker 1: Get it on the wall. Where is my phone from
Speaker 1: the windows and want to hear you scream. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna scream. His brand, his brand and also like his
Speaker 1: manhood and everything else whatever it is the element of surprise.
Speaker 1: Yeah one, my flag, my flag. Um, I want you.
Speaker 1: You need to trust me. I know it's weird, you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm really not like I'm not gonna just flash
Speaker 1: up and just start Okay, just thank you, so like
Speaker 1: hold your head off, not okay, hardy, Yeah, he's got it.
Speaker 1: You got this, Buddha. Whoa shut the funk up? Your
Speaker 1: keep your mouth shut the fuck up. Well, I'm you
Speaker 1: keep your head off, right, So how am I supposed to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just talking to him your face the episode? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. Yes, I'm been joining this. Thank you,
Speaker 1: you're so sweet. How do your nipples feel? You? He
Speaker 1: did this for the girls. Nipples are tingling, he said, tingling.
Speaker 1: He likes this just yeah, this is four of No.
Speaker 1: You gotta pa all right, you gotta pay already do that? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for to be appreciate you for me, Like
Speaker 1: you think they give him some ice for the nipples?
Speaker 1: Whoa four hundred off take a person to shoot on you?
Speaker 1: So what do you think me take a shut on me?
Speaker 1: He was? He would he like he's doing that. He
Speaker 1: liked it, and he was trying to protect himself because
Speaker 1: everyone was in the room, especially other men. If there
Speaker 1: was just all women in here, I think that reaction
Speaker 1: would have been different. You think he would have started moaning.
Speaker 1: I think it a bit pants off, But I think
Speaker 1: in the middle of sucks, right before he's about to
Speaker 1: like stick it in. If you say listen, this is
Speaker 1: what gets me off. I want to flog you and
Speaker 1: thank you. He was down for ye. Now that ship
Speaker 1: you was doing was looking like some what you called,
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure it out. He's saying, they're
Speaker 1: trying to laugh. But then when he like put his
Speaker 1: head back and closed his eyes, his breathing slowed down.
Speaker 1: He was like relaxing. Next dep CDT baby. Probably I
Speaker 1: don't know about one. He looks like he will knock
Speaker 1: you out. Do you have any winning kinds? Have a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of queer women, a lot of lesbian women.
Speaker 1: M Hm, what did they know him? And so what's
Speaker 1: their tap request? It's usually to play out submissive fantasy,
Speaker 1: uh scenarios. So like a lot of the women that
Speaker 1: I sessioned with are actually dominant also, and in like
Speaker 1: normal day to day life, they have like really good
Speaker 1: jobs or managers or uh, they just like run their family,
Speaker 1: they run their husbands, and they kind of just want
Speaker 1: another woman because they can't submit to a man for
Speaker 1: some reason. They need another woman to kind of level them,
Speaker 1: ground them a little velp level up. How did that
Speaker 1: sex though? Like you can you can ask sex with
Speaker 1: the woman though, right, because it's not the same kind
Speaker 1: of thing. No same rules applied. The rules applied the
Speaker 1: bard with women. Actually the rule is ten times more effectively. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why do you think that is I think women. Yes,
Speaker 1: women love differently than men. Men are more logical lovers
Speaker 1: if something doesn't make sense them or if the love
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense and they go all cheat, they do
Speaker 1: things like stupid ship because like everything's here. For women,
Speaker 1: everything's here. If it's like it's like I don't know
Speaker 1: why I like you, but I do, so let's get married.
Speaker 1: You know, like men are just like, huh, if I
Speaker 1: marry her she has no money and debt, I start
Speaker 1: thinking too much about it um, which I think makes
Speaker 1: men really good partners if you want to build a
Speaker 1: business or something, because they're really good at that stuff um.
Speaker 1: And it makes women really good at being able to
Speaker 1: expand because they're really good with stuff here. So they
Speaker 1: know like the ethics of a company. They know how
Speaker 1: to um connect to different people. They know how to
Speaker 1: communicate with different people on a level that they understand.
Speaker 1: So for different reasons, both are equally valuable. But I
Speaker 1: prefer sessions with submissive men. Now when it comes to relationships, right,
Speaker 1: are you with a man who submissive or do you
Speaker 1: feel like in a relationship you leave all that out? No,
Speaker 1: I don't just leave at all. I tried to leave
Speaker 1: it out at one point, and um, I almost went
Speaker 1: to jail. Um in again, No, it doesn't know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't even though jail and black ink seems to go
Speaker 1: hand and hand. Um. Yeah, but no, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about them. It was like, you know, I was with
Speaker 1: someone you know for a very long time, UM, and
Speaker 1: they were very like macho and headstrong, and like I'm
Speaker 1: the man and I wear the pants and you're the woman,
Speaker 1: so you should be home doing this, this and this.
Speaker 1: And I'm not built like that. I was never built
Speaker 1: like that. So I don't come from I don't even
Speaker 1: come from a family where the women are built like that.
Speaker 1: Like my aunt UM shout out to my aunt sil
Speaker 1: as high school. That's not my um. She's the strongest
Speaker 1: Dominican woman that I know, the strongest Dominican woman I know.
Speaker 1: She stays at home and she wants the household. And
Speaker 1: he goes and my uncle um Omar goes out of work,
Speaker 1: but he listen to everything that she says. Did your
Speaker 1: family know what you do? Like everybody my mother Ron,
Speaker 1: they know what I do. I'm very I'm very open
Speaker 1: and honest because they were going to find out anyway,
Speaker 1: why I don't want to hurt people that I care
Speaker 1: about by letting them find out by looking at the
Speaker 1: New York Post or something like that. We're looking on
Speaker 1: Vice TV or something and seeing me like doing stuff
Speaker 1: or like just anything black and keep it real baby watching.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I was. I actually had a party
Speaker 1: on black ink and I was in my dom gear
Speaker 1: as well. And you know, so what happened with black ink?
Speaker 1: What can you tell us without really know that? They
Speaker 1: owe me money? And you ever seen somebody like going
Speaker 1: around like flawsing like new cars open. You know, he's
Speaker 1: opening shops in different states. You ever seen like people?
Speaker 1: But even if you don't care, if you buy a
Speaker 1: stick of gum and you owe me money, where's my money?
Speaker 1: And it's not? It's not. And I want to see
Speaker 1: black men win, you know what I mean? You know,
Speaker 1: I want to see black boy joy. I'd like to
Speaker 1: see black men smile. I love to see black men
Speaker 1: like build and own things because you know, society has
Speaker 1: like cards stacked against us. You know that ship is
Speaker 1: so real. But if you're gonna be a black business owner,
Speaker 1: you got to respect your own people. If you won't
Speaker 1: respect as a black man, you can't down a black
Speaker 1: woman or not pay her. That's what he did to me.
Speaker 1: I don't respect that ship. That's great. How do I
Speaker 1: tell you how much is the old like over twenty
Speaker 1: people that file things against him, let's talk about that ship.
Speaker 1: I gotta do some research. There's a lot of people money.
Speaker 1: But the thing is like the thing is like the
Speaker 1: six I'm gonna be honest because again, I don't just
Speaker 1: like bashing people, you know what I mean. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be fair and I'm not gonna just stack cards against him.
Speaker 1: I don't think some of the promises that were made
Speaker 1: by some of his staff or managers, even his own
Speaker 1: assistant or whatever, I don't think he knows about some
Speaker 1: of them. So I think he he yeah, he owes
Speaker 1: people money. You know. There's a former employee that explained
Speaker 1: her situation to me because she wants to file some ship.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know about that because it just
Speaker 1: sounds the story sounds funny. But her story is that
Speaker 1: she had an agreement with one of the managers, and
Speaker 1: he's on the show, that she had an agreement with
Speaker 1: what the manager of the shop he said he would
Speaker 1: pay her. Caesar knew nothing about it because he was
Speaker 1: traveling and doing all this other stuff, and now she
Speaker 1: wants to bring suit against the shop. Caesar, she admitted
Speaker 1: did not know about that. So I don't think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say that it's just Caesar. I think everybody
Speaker 1: has to be accountable though. But but if you own
Speaker 1: a company, is good that you have good communications, so
Speaker 1: only you know what's going on, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And that still falls on season because if
Speaker 1: you have, you know, agreements with different people, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you this. I'm gonna pay you this,
Speaker 1: if you build this website, I'm gonna pay you this.
Speaker 1: If you fix the ceiling because there's a leak, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay you this. And then you start not paying people,
Speaker 1: you're gonna piss a lot of people. All a lot
Speaker 1: of comes out of time. Then it comes out and
Speaker 1: it comes out, and people are not going to just
Speaker 1: sit by like myself and just be quiet about it anymore.
Speaker 1: He just flogging. That costs money too, though, he would
Speaker 1: have to pay just like yes, you know, my my mond.
Speaker 1: Is there anything anybody has asked you to do Venus
Speaker 1: that you've said no, Like, give me some examples of
Speaker 1: what you would you not? Wait, I know, you don't
Speaker 1: like to shoot on people. I don't like to stick
Speaker 1: a shot on people. What about peeing? Um? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're peeing on someone? All right? So whatever here?
Speaker 1: What I want? What I want to do? Um? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm was the overall like just purv and freak.
Speaker 1: And when I say, would you face somebody in the
Speaker 1: ask what I was this? Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: fun sometimes when you can you get it all the
Speaker 1: way to the elbow. Ever, yea, that doesn't. I've had
Speaker 1: like whole like tea parties and parties. You know. It's
Speaker 1: I've had parties excuse me, just for like other women
Speaker 1: and like you know, a bunch of girls show up
Speaker 1: and then there's a guy there. We just all like
Speaker 1: kind of just like you know, just but it's conspsual
Speaker 1: what he wanted. He wants like a bunch of women's attention,
Speaker 1: and so we put him in the middle room as
Speaker 1: a centerpiece. He gets all of our drinks. Then you've
Speaker 1: got another submissive kind of like doing given everyone massages
Speaker 1: those kind of things. Has anyone ever had to go
Speaker 1: to the hospital? Why I burping so much? What's going
Speaker 1: on here? Have I ever send anybody to the hospital. No, actually,
Speaker 1: those burps. Actually I just lost money because because you know,
Speaker 1: somebody would have paid for me to burp in their
Speaker 1: faces for free. I can't make myself so wait, somebody's
Speaker 1: tour in their face? Yeah, far in their face and everything.
Speaker 1: You know, how can you make yourself art? What if
Speaker 1: he started? What if he started by accident? What if
Speaker 1: I started by accidents? That would be his pro He'd
Speaker 1: probably be like I pay extra s on somebody before
Speaker 1: she started. But you know, there's due to remnants. And
Speaker 1: when you fart, oh, don't tell. I can't make myself
Speaker 1: farts either. Sometimes I can't make myself not fart. What
Speaker 1: about ball bust things? Because I have this guy. It
Speaker 1: has to be one guy that just makes mad different
Speaker 1: profiles because I don't believe everybody. Yeah, I responded to
Speaker 1: him for you, She responded to him. He makes all
Speaker 1: these different what he talks about ball bust thing, He
Speaker 1: sends me pictures, he makes different names on Snapchat, I
Speaker 1: g everything. He's like, wherery? How please? I just want
Speaker 1: you to bust my balls? What the fuck is ball
Speaker 1: bust thing? And why won't he leave me alone? Ball
Speaker 1: busting is basically kicking some and the nuts over and
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over and
Speaker 1: over again until you can't take it anymore. Why does
Speaker 1: he want that? You want to pay you to do it?
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna explain CBT and ball busting and all
Speaker 1: that with the genitals for for a lot of assists men, right,
Speaker 1: So for a lot of men, they are told their
Speaker 1: power is rooted in their genitals. Because I have a dick,
Speaker 1: and because I have balls, I am more powerful than
Speaker 1: you or you you know what I mean. That's what
Speaker 1: they say, he's got some balls and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Um, you know those those kind of like
Speaker 1: you know comments, they came from somewhere, you know. So
Speaker 1: they when they know their power is rooted in their balls,
Speaker 1: and they want to give their power to let's say
Speaker 1: you or you or whatever, they want you to abuse that.
Speaker 1: They want you to attack their power because they don't
Speaker 1: want it anymore. It's also a pressure if you are
Speaker 1: told your whole life you've got to be the head
Speaker 1: of household, you gotta be the head of this. But
Speaker 1: in in your mind and your spirit, you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I kind of just want like a girl that's like
Speaker 1: more like stronger than me or like more powerful to me.
Speaker 1: It's like I want to give you like all my
Speaker 1: power and I need to prove to you and make
Speaker 1: you feel secure that I'm not just here to like
Speaker 1: take from you. So like, yeah, punch me the balls,
Speaker 1: like do whatever you want to credit card you ain't got.
Speaker 1: That's power right there. You're giving me control all your money.
Speaker 1: That's different. I don't want to have to kick some
Speaker 1: my in the balls over and over and over. What
Speaker 1: if they were paying over, I'll take it. He's fine,
Speaker 1: what's your budget? Yo? We said our kind of ship
Speaker 1: to him and he just won't go. But aside aside
Speaker 1: from just like transactional like with money, right, what if
Speaker 1: this was your boyfriend you were together like four or five,
Speaker 1: six years, and he one day says, oh, baby, I'm
Speaker 1: interested in, like, you know, kicking me in the balls.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that would local tell me off.
Speaker 1: See I can't understand doing it for like a job.
Speaker 1: But like me looking at him, like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: really the guy that I'm wearing. He wants me to
Speaker 1: keep kicking him in the balls today break like no,
Speaker 1: I got nobody said that because jail you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you do it even once, it hurt's really bad.
Speaker 1: So I can only imagine if you keep doing it
Speaker 1: over and over, and like, I don't want to break
Speaker 1: the dick that I want to suck later. I suck later,
Speaker 1: Like that's what you're supposed to do, break it and
Speaker 1: then nurse it back to him. That's hilarious. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, I think like stuff like
Speaker 1: that actually turns me on. Yeah, I like I like
Speaker 1: seeing a man being able to be secure enough as
Speaker 1: a man in his masculinity to give his power over
Speaker 1: to me. Have you ever tied somebody's balls in a
Speaker 1: nut or something like that? And not? I haven't had
Speaker 1: anyone's balls long enough to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: If I could, what if I could? Was the smallest
Speaker 1: stick you've ever seen. Oh my gosh, there was one
Speaker 1: that didn't even like come out of It was like
Speaker 1: a belly button. It was like a belly button. It
Speaker 1: was like a little belly bud. And she was hard
Speaker 1: and I actually and he when he came and shot
Speaker 1: out so far and I'm like, you have nothing there
Speaker 1: on probably got more than him. Yeah. Our friend Kelly,
Speaker 1: she has a big clip that's like he did any
Speaker 1: of yourselfs have is like any of the women have
Speaker 1: like a big clip, like any of the women that you, yeah,
Speaker 1: that you dominate that you were like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: it's a Do you find that most of your clients
Speaker 1: have small dicks? No, because I kind of think that
Speaker 1: maybe like little dick guys like that. A lot of
Speaker 1: them have big dicks. Wow, b d E, big dick energy,
Speaker 1: a lot of big black dicks, a lot of big
Speaker 1: rich black for blacks rappers, a lot of young money
Speaker 1: black dicks. Okay, well right right there. Nice for what
Speaker 1: you'll be surprised. It's probably who you're thinking. I know,
Speaker 1: he doing something too, got to be Oh, we don't
Speaker 1: want to know smoke. That's crazy look at too and
Speaker 1: all right? So what else about black ink? Is that
Speaker 1: all results? Like are you in the passage of resolving that?
Speaker 1: Are you seeing what's happening? I'm not going to comment
Speaker 1: too much about like the actions that I'm taking. What
Speaker 1: I will say is that you go around doing a
Speaker 1: lot of really nasty things to people not paying them. Um,
Speaker 1: there was another situation that happened when I was there. Um,
Speaker 1: so the t it's a lot of tea behind. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of this filming ship right reality for the
Speaker 1: most part, A lot of it's not not real. I think,
Speaker 1: like most people know that, but the public, for some reason,
Speaker 1: they still believe. You know that a lot of people
Speaker 1: believe this ship is like real, it's like everything. Whatever
Speaker 1: I think I remember, correct me if I'm wrong. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. There was a situation between you and
Speaker 1: someone else over their lyrics about light skin is better.
Speaker 1: You talked about colorism, and I actually commend you for
Speaker 1: doing that. Okay, So I think there aren't enough people
Speaker 1: that are in possessions of power that corrects other black
Speaker 1: people when they are colorist, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: when this colorism happening. And that's basically what happened to me.
Speaker 1: I was told I'm too fat and I'm too dark
Speaker 1: skinned to be on black ink, and the only person
Speaker 1: hold on, the only person that stood up for me
Speaker 1: was Duchess. She's the only one. She went off on
Speaker 1: production for three days straight. She's the only one. And
Speaker 1: everybody heard it or heard about it if they weren't
Speaker 1: there that day during filming, and they did nothing. Production
Speaker 1: apologized to me. They tried to make it right because
Speaker 1: I actually recorded it. Wait, somebody really said that you
Speaker 1: were too dyed skin and too big, but I was
Speaker 1: too fat and kid. No offense to Kid, I like it,
Speaker 1: no offense to her again. If she takes us left,
Speaker 1: then I'll go with you. But Kit was my replacement
Speaker 1: on the show. Kit was supposed to be the more attractive,
Speaker 1: lighter skinned version of me to be on the show.
Speaker 1: So you were supposed to be a regular. I was.
Speaker 1: I was the regular. I was the person working every
Speaker 1: day doing what Kid was doing a little bit more
Speaker 1: because I was actually a manager, but I was the
Speaker 1: person doing all of that, and they I was just
Speaker 1: basically told like, she has a better body, better phase,
Speaker 1: and she's lighter skin, and she's gonna appeal to more people.
Speaker 1: And they told me, don't take it personal. To be honest,
Speaker 1: at the time, I kind of did, because how do
Speaker 1: you tell someone that without them being like And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what it is, what it is
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, I'm not happy
Speaker 1: here anyway, so I know, like, eventually I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: want to be here, so let me just stick this out.
Speaker 1: I was in my last year of college at that time,
Speaker 1: so I'm like Okay, um, let me just finish college.
Speaker 1: Let me finish paying off these some of these some
Speaker 1: of this debt with his money that they say they're
Speaker 1: gonna give me and get the funk up out of
Speaker 1: here because they're on some bullshit right now. Um. And
Speaker 1: I spoke to see me and the other manager at
Speaker 1: the time, which it's a lot of tea with him too.
Speaker 1: But he is not as bad of a person as
Speaker 1: I thought he was because he's put a lot of
Speaker 1: his staff against each other. It was, it was. It
Speaker 1: was a really crazy work environment, especially with the filming,
Speaker 1: and they want certain things for like entertainment purposes. What
Speaker 1: do you want to see happened? Um? I want him
Speaker 1: to apologize to me. I really do. Sometimes, like sometimes
Speaker 1: just acknowledging the hurt that you call somebody else is enough.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't like dragging people. It's not
Speaker 1: in my nature. It's not in my nature to just
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Caesar, Caesar, Caesar, just for like any
Speaker 1: kind of come up. But if you constantly hurt somebody
Speaker 1: and they run around on the streets talking about, oh,
Speaker 1: she lied about somewhere that she worked before, and that's
Speaker 1: why we fired her. She lied about who she was,
Speaker 1: and that's why we fired her. The only reason I
Speaker 1: got fired from that job is because I asked for
Speaker 1: the money that they owed me, and then I got
Speaker 1: fired two days later. That's what happened. If he wants
Speaker 1: to be real about it. And then it was a
Speaker 1: big deal, you know, production trying to get me, you
Speaker 1: know out of there too, because I told him I
Speaker 1: recorded everything that that was said to me. You can't
Speaker 1: say you still have that. That's about to be the
Speaker 1: whole case. Are you taking as it didn't? After you
Speaker 1: make all your money, it's how to make her yourself
Speaker 1: even more to that, it's even more to that, but
Speaker 1: some of it is it's important, uh info that I
Speaker 1: can't share yet, but I will wonder when when it's
Speaker 1: actually in a couple give it like two months is
Speaker 1: going to be done. Good for you. But you make
Speaker 1: it way more money now than you would have their O.
Speaker 1: You're kidding me, Like nobody makes money there. He takes
Speaker 1: all the money for everybody, even the artist. God damn.
Speaker 1: All right, so financially you are set straight. I'm good,
Speaker 1: but I still want the money and work for a
Speaker 1: bunch of submissives that's doing everything she needed. So what's
Speaker 1: the ain't how it's not gonna you see yourself doing
Speaker 1: this like you could do this father. Um, I can
Speaker 1: see myself having like submissives for a long time. I
Speaker 1: can see myself like always being served by somebody because
Speaker 1: I'm used to it now. I think like at a
Speaker 1: certain point when like it's been this is, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna be twenty eight. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this since I was nine teen years old.
Speaker 1: I've been having men in and out of my life
Speaker 1: doing things for me, picking me up, like I said,
Speaker 1: doing my laundry, cooking for me, you know, sweeping, you know,
Speaker 1: on their hands and knees, making them scrub toilets with
Speaker 1: tooth brushes, and ship damn you can they kind of
Speaker 1: my house? How does your relationship said? Then my relationships?
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be honest. I do think being
Speaker 1: a dominatrix and being like a dom has changed my
Speaker 1: relationships and both in a way. It's harder for me
Speaker 1: to find relationships that I take serious. And that's only
Speaker 1: because when I meet men that bring nothing to the
Speaker 1: table but expect the woman to have everything set. I
Speaker 1: don't respect them. It's like they want the woman and
Speaker 1: oh you got your finances to the other to make
Speaker 1: sure you got your own money, because I don't want
Speaker 1: to spend all my money. If we're going to day,
Speaker 1: if we're going to date, we gotta go Dutch. But
Speaker 1: then when you look at the men and what he's
Speaker 1: actually bringing to the table, that means something as opposed
Speaker 1: to the life that I live where I'm have men
Speaker 1: just giving me stuff and doing things for me because
Speaker 1: I'm a woman and I just exist. I kind of
Speaker 1: look at these men like why are you here? Like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? So if you met a guy
Speaker 1: that completely swept you off your feet and was able
Speaker 1: to provide all the things that your subs did, that
Speaker 1: he told you that he wanted you to stop with
Speaker 1: all of your subs, you stop because he couldn't take
Speaker 1: care of her. That ain't like she got to do it,
Speaker 1: and then he would have to be myself too. No shade,
Speaker 1: If you're gonna tell me to give get rid of
Speaker 1: the whole life that I had when you met me
Speaker 1: that way, then you better be able to match all
Speaker 1: of it. If he can match all every thing, I
Speaker 1: will give it up. Why not you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be like a hundred years old doing this.
Speaker 1: Have you ever fell in love with one of your sins? Yes,
Speaker 1: and what happened and we live together and it was
Speaker 1: very very nice until he realized that he was more
Speaker 1: of a dumb actually, and um, it wasn't for him.
Speaker 1: We're still friends to this day. He still comes to
Speaker 1: my events, he still supports me. Um, he promote some
Speaker 1: of my events with me. You. Um, so we have
Speaker 1: a really good relationship. Did they get jealous of each
Speaker 1: other like the su Yeah, that's actually good question, excited
Speaker 1: out glad it does. And like what do they have
Speaker 1: other domes? It's just one domb. So my every dom
Speaker 1: has like their own protocol what we call or rules.
Speaker 1: My protocol is, if you're serving me, you're only serving me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to share my time with other doms,
Speaker 1: you know, share you with other doms unless I explicitly
Speaker 1: say I want to give I want to. We have
Speaker 1: like a little program where we lend out subs to
Speaker 1: other women. So if you need your house cleaned, I
Speaker 1: need to people to clean my house. I got something
Speaker 1: going on, have a photo shoot. Hey listen, sub number
Speaker 1: one singer too. I can show you right on my phone.
Speaker 1: I need I need to have better than donkeys and monkeys?
Speaker 1: Can they come fix the at any specialists in there?
Speaker 1: Sosta I'll call. I'll call slave Jock, slave Jack. Remember
Speaker 1: the difference between like a slave and a slave to say.
Speaker 1: They can't say no because we still have laws, right,
Speaker 1: but he should. I learned so much today, so I'll
Speaker 1: be like, hey Jack, get your ass over here. I
Speaker 1: got something, I got stuff I want to do. I
Speaker 1: got you know, things need to be swept. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: my worn't kind of to do. We'll leave. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me go get this fabbie. No, you pick up the
Speaker 1: fabil though, so your dad tell him the lea, how
Speaker 1: are you gonna pay you if you don't got no job?
Speaker 1: Figure it out? Some problem? Problem about I got to go,
Speaker 1: And that's the Let me say this. I'm not just
Speaker 1: like telling people to quit their jobs and get fired
Speaker 1: and stuff. When we have like when I said, the negotiations,
Speaker 1: we talked about all of that. When are you available?
Speaker 1: But what hours? And what hours? If you exactly? So
Speaker 1: if I say you know, when are you available, and
Speaker 1: you tell me between five pm and ten pm, and
Speaker 1: I call you as six pm you better be ready.
Speaker 1: And if you say, oh, I had I have to
Speaker 1: do something. I have to do something for my you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta something, want time for myself. You don't have
Speaker 1: time for yourself. This is what you told me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said you were available. You know me. I'm not
Speaker 1: even going into a whole argument. I don't argue with
Speaker 1: my slaves at all. I don't argue with none of that.
Speaker 1: I hear you. Listen, I said what I said. Either
Speaker 1: you're gonna come or you're gonna get replaced. Damn Okay, mistress,
Speaker 1: I'm on my way. Thank you. If you're not, I
Speaker 1: really can't make it. I'm so sorry. Great, find another mistress,
Speaker 1: hang up on them. Yeah, and then I find another one.
Speaker 1: Who else? Need a damn house clean? I know? Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: better start calling me mistress easy because it had some
Speaker 1: of the slaves. Can't help you move goddess like that
Speaker 1: talked about one beautiful one. Oh my god, what if
Speaker 1: we had some of the steps work at the juice
Speaker 1: by yes, let's have that. We don't gotta pay that,
Speaker 1: you know, the juice by hat, the juice by bro
Speaker 1: oh common clean. We had some things that he fixing.
Speaker 1: Let them. Let them come of them clean. They's gonna
Speaker 1: be handy. Let them hand out flyers. Also, yes, were
Speaker 1: a little Colorado can give out samples in the front,
Speaker 1: can you imagine? Yes? All right, well listen, Venus, We
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming through. This is very
Speaker 1: eye opening and educational. I know Buddha's about to go
Speaker 1: request some ship the studio. You on Instagram, Oh, on Instagram,
Speaker 1: I'm spread Entertainment Events. Or you can just type in
Speaker 1: Venus cuffs and I'll pop up that literally, Venus cuffs. Venus. Alright, Venus,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We're gonna follow up with you
Speaker 1: two and find out what happens with you get your
Speaker 1: money from Black Ink. Yeah they need to start pay. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let service