WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Congo 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.360 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:15.080 Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.760 is Rob Lamb and I'm Annie Reese. That's right. Can 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.280 I just jump in? Yeah? Yeah, that's that's that's perfectly, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.480 perfectly fine. That's the way to do it. Yes, everyone, 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.960 it's Annie Reese of Stuff Mom Never told You and 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.880 Safer Um. She is going to join me as my 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.680 guest co host today as Joe is still very much 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.199 on parental leave. Uh. And we kind of had a 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.600 back and forth about what to discuss here, and eventually 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.199 there was just no denying the appeal of Congo. I 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.480 think it was my first option, and I'm very sorry 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.440 if I overwhelmed you, because I do love movies. I 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:55.639 do love bad slash weird. I don't want to put 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.320 them in the same category, but I do love movies 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.760 that kind of make you raise your eyebrow like huh um. 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.000 So when you asked, I was super excited and immediately 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.760 sent you I think like fifteen suggestionss what Congo was 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.319 the first one. And I hope Joe is not mad 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.560 that we're doing it without him, because I've talked about 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:20.200 Congo with him um, but it is just something that 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.240 is hard to explain. In fact, last night I was 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.080 going over some of your notes and I was laughing 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:29.200 aloud at your notes because it's just a strange film. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:34.840 So much of it is hard to describe, and I 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.160 kind of love that about it. I'm kind of endeared 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.559 by how strange it is, if that makes sense. Yeah, 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.640 It's one of those films where, on one hand, I 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.200 can't imagine Congo is anyone's favorite movie. No, and yet 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.520 it's hard not to love. And if not parts of 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.200 the film or the whole film itself, you you've still 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.920 got to admire sort of the the guts to try 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.880 and put together something like this like this was. It's 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.080 it's like a throwback to older jungle adventure movies, but 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.080 with the high tech Michael Crichton edge to it. And 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.360 I'm not sure ultimately anybody was really clamoring for this, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:17.200 but it's it's hard to argue with the fun results here. Yes, yes, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:21.240 I think that's It's such a It's a movie that 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.200 continually is asking you, like, well, don't ask too many questions. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.560 Just come along with this journey. We don't have to 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.640 explain this. It's just gonna be fun, and it's it's 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.160 it does end up being very fun, even though at 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.280 the end you're like, but wait, and it just like 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:44.760 switches genres a million times. It's never entirely clear like 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.040 what it's trying to be. It's very obviously in the 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.560 shadow of Jurassic Park, because they had come out in 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:54.040 the wake of Jurassic Park. Um, but there's something about 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.280 about so much of the acting in it that is 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.880 just full hearted despite what is going on around, like 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.400 maybe even because of what is going on in the 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:10.679 script that is just hard not to kind of it 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.760 just kind of wind you over. You're like, oh, yeah, sure, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.679 let's go on this journey it has. It has a 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.280 lot of energy, and it has some great performers in it, 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.640 who many of which really decided to chew the scenery, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.600 which I think is the right impulse for a film 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.320 like this. And then the genre I wouldn't I won't 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:34.160 say it's necessarily genre confusion, but you there are elements 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.800 of this movie that are kind of monster film and 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.640 and perhaps even seem like they might venture into horror. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.880 But there's also plenty of stuff that's just kind of 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.640 this old fashioned essentially like a jungle cruise kind of adventure. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.080 And and if if you go in just hungry for 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.440 the killer drillas, you get a little bit at the beginning, 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.200 but then you gotta wait a long time before you 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.320 get back to them. I think I read I read 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.800 an article that said, if you're for a movie that 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.320 was like promising killer guerrillas, you only really get them 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:10.400 at the one hundred minute mark, just constantly like but 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:15.960 wait where okay, but then they and then the ultimately guessyeah, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.800 they're not on screen a lot, but there are a 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.960 lot of gorillas on screen when they are on screen, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.440 so you do get to see a lot of really 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.080 amazing guerrilla costumes. And I'm I'm a sucker. I'm a 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.080 sucker for a bad gorilla costume much and you bring 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.159 a great gorilla costume, and I'm totally on board. Yes, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.080 and I if you would allow me, I would love 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.600 to tell the very complicated story of how I saw congo. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.480 Oh let's hear it. Yes, okay, okay, um, so come 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.640 along with this journey like this is oh so I 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.599 One of the first movies I ever saw in theaters 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.080 was Jurassic Park. I snuck into the theater. I was 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.640 like three or four. I should not have been there, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.080 and I had a nightmare about raptors that I and 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.359 I couldn't hide that I had seen this movie because 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.760 it became very clear. So I got very big trouble 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.600 for it. But I loved the movie, and after that 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.080 I became Once I got older, I read a lot 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.279 of Michael Crichton. I really liked Spear. I think my 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:20.039 interest was sort of um reignited in the two thousand's 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.440 Um after Lost, because there's a big lost theory about 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.919 the book prey Um. Yeah, So I started reading it 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:32.880 again and somehow Congo never entered this year. I did 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.680 not know it was written by Michael Crichton. I because 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.479 I'm kind of gullible and sometimes terrible at deciphering sarcasm, 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.440 had been told that Congo was an Oscar winning movie 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.880 and like best film level, okay, so I I thought 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.760 it was going to be this really dramatic, sad take 0:05:54.920 --> 0:06:02.039 on I don't know, diamonds and or guerrillas in Africa, which, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.479 by the way, that is one thing that does not 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.080 age well me. Um. So I was preparing it for 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:11.359 it to be a really emotional, sad film and because 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.360 of that I had put it off. I'd put off 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.120 seeing it for years and years and years, still not 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:20.520 knowing it's Michael Criton. And so at the beginning of 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.440 the pandemic um when it's like, oh gosh, I'm just 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.599 gonna have to start, I'm gonna stream everything because that's 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.640 what I that's what I have the only left to 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.120 me to do. I was with a friend of mine, 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.400 a very very good friend of mine, and I was like, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.440 you know what to nice to night, I'm gonna I'm 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.880 gonna do Congo. I'm gonna stream it. I'm gonna be 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.840 sad and it's going to be great and I So 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.160 we kept putting it off even into the night, and 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.720 so it was like two am, and I was kind 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.440 of tipsy, and I started watching it, and she went, 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.560 she went to lay down into a room next to 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.440 me so she could still hear me, but she wasn't 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:03.680 watching it. So what follows was me desperately trying to 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.719 make sense in my head about how this could be 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:10.480 a best Picture Oscar movie, and me shouting at Katie like, 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.520 oh my god, Tim Curry showed up and he's got 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.120 some accents I can't explain, and her being like what 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.840 and me being like, oh my gosh, there's a there's 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:25.000 a talking griprilla and like smartinis what's going on? And 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.480 just like my brain desperately trying to make this make sense. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.760 And I think it's a real testament to like what 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.160 you think a movie is when you go into it, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.840 of how hard I was trying to well there's I mean, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.720 surely it's something. I'm maybe I'm missing something or and 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:51.600 so I it wasn't until the lasers laser ring of 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.400 the gorillas at the end that I was finally like, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:59.040 I'm not sure this movie one any Oscars. Then with 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.360 the escape apen the hot air balloon, I was like, okay, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.120 there in a hot air balloon. I don't think I 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.480 don't think this was an award winning movie at all. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.240 And so then I desperately like go online and I 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.440 searched what is this movie? And to my delight, I 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.680 found several several articles about it that were like exactly that, 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.480 what is this movie? Um? And I read them all 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.640 and then I said, we are watching this again, and 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.640 I need you to witness what I just saw. So 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.240 it was like only a couple of years ago I 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.320 saw it, and I just It's still left such a 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.840 mark on me because I was the whole time, what 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.320 is going on here? Oh wow, that's so Yeah. If 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.240 you go into into into the film Congo expecting one 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.560 of these, and then they were I believe, several like 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:54.200 serious films that came out and at least in the 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:59.520 decade that followed, dealing with like serious dramatic scenarios in Africa. Uh, 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.319 this is this is not one of them, though, but 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.199 I can imagine that. Yeah, you're surprised when these various 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.280 speculative and fantastic elements begin to pop up. Oh my gosh, 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.400 the hot air ballue. It's the funniest part to me 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.240 is that I made it all the way to that 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.800 part before I was finally like, something's off here. I 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.800 think I've been told a lie about what it is 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.680 that is that's amazing to the second viewing you had, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.800 that was the one where you went in having full 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.439 knowledge of what Congo was and what you're going to 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.800 get out of it. Yes, and now I've seen it 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.640 several several times and it's kind of a tradition, a 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.480 tradition with me and some friends that we watch it 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.960 and mostly we just are like, look, at what Tim 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.680 Curry is doing, because he's really, like you said, a 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.640 lot of the actors are chewing up the scenery. Him 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.839 and Ernie Hudson are just it feels like they're having 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.040 a good time. And yeah, I hope so because they 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.840 it's it's shining through and it's so fun to just 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:02.160 watch them have that fun. Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm looking 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.360 forward to talking more about about Ernie Hudson in a 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.440 bit because it is it is a great Ernie Hudson roll. Uh, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.240 perhaps his best roll. It's it's amazing. Now my history 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.840 with Congo, Uh, it's very much connected to Jurassic Park, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.680 you know, because Jurassic Park comes out in theaters. I 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.240 think I was fourteen at that point, and like a 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.920 lot of kids of that of that age in that 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.280 time period, like instantly you're you're in on Michael Crichton books. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.040 You pick up a copy of Jurassic Park, you read 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.600 that and uh, and they both provide a very similar 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.439 but slightly differing experiences. And I remember my my dad 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.480 had read and was reading some Michael Crichton at the time, 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.720 so we kind of had that to bond over, and 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.120 I read I read a series of them at the time, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.200 I think I read Sphere, which I think I've mostly forgotten, 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.200 Eaters of the Dead, which I enjoyed a lot, and 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.920 then the novel Congo, which of course is the basis 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.599 for this film. Um So, looking back on it, I 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.280 think I was drawn in more to the more fantastic 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.079 of the Michael Crichton books, the ones that involved dinosaurs 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:13.320 coming back from the dead, uh, cannibal caveman attacking vikings, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.480 and of course this wonderful tale of of strange lost 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.200 guerrillas and lost cities in the jungle and superpowered lasers 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.080 of course, and diamonds that somehow, you know, that's one 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.320 of my other favorite parts of this movie. And I 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:34.320 am a big sucker for this period of technology where 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.240 I experienced it. I grew up with it, but it 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:42.760 feels so outdated and kind of like wonky now, and 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.680 it's clear that, like the understanding wasn't entirely there. So 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.480 I love the plot line of just like, don't ask 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.280 too many questions, but this diamond is how we're going 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:58.240 to revolutionize communications technology and it is necessary for satellites. Yeah. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.480 The techno aspect of the film is it's one of 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.520 the aspects of Michael Crichton's work that I think tended 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.760 to set a lot of his stuff apart, especially from 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.880 this period of his writing, because you had he had 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.640 a real knack for like adventure and thriller stories, but 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.320 then would would bring in this level of technology and 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:21.520 technological uh speculation, and yeah, it made things feel more 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.240 alive at the time. Some of it maybe it has 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.000 not aged as well, just because that's how that's how 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.520 cutting edge sci fi works. As you eventually reached the 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.520 period where you you read Neuromancer again and you're like, whoa, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.960 they're sending faxes. Um, that doesn't feel very cyberpunk, but 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.440 but it's just how it goes. Yeah, and I do 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.600 love it. I mean, there's so many parts of this 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:44.600 movie where it is very fun, which again I'll use 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.120 that word a lot because I do think Congo is 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.720 a very fun movie. Um to look back at the 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:54.920 technology and just smile to yourself and be like, well, 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.040 it was a different time and they were trying. Yeah, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.959 it's I mean, this is a pretty pricey film. I 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.160 don't think it's the most expensive film that we've watched 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.200 on on Weird House, but it's Um, it's it's up there. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.320 It was a big summer blockbuster, and the weird thing 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.199 is that it was successful. I understand it. It maybe 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.880 not critically, but it made money at the box I was. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.600 People went out and saw it and they enjoyed it. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.640 And yet it is it is the right level of 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.000 blockbuster where it's sort of culturally forgotten by a lot 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.800 of people, which allows someone like you to come around 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.560 later and go into it not knowing exactly what you're 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.120 going to get out of it. Yeah. Such a lot 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.120 of the articles I read before this, a lot of 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:39.360 people said that, like people are rediscovering Congo and asking 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.520 the same questions I did after watching it. And it 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.040 is interesting because, as you said, people saw it and 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.600 it had a huge marketing push, huge marketing push. From 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.360 what I understand, I think there was a quote from 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.320 one of the somebody higher up involved in the film 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.800 that he basically said, anybody who doesn't see Congo is 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.840 a terrible person or something. But they have a real 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.920 really hyping this and I'm surprised that. Yeah, it just 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.959 I guess people were like, sure there was this talking gorilla, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.199 let's move on to another thing. But now people are 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:19.520 rediscovering it. And it is. It's just a ride. I'm 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.600 excited for any listeners who haven't seen it to just 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.520 just describing the plot. That was one of the most 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.600 fun things that night when I was watching it the 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.200 first time and just shouting these random phrases to my 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.080 friend in the other boom, like I had to share 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:37.280 it with her because this is so bizarre to explain 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:42.280 to someone. Yeah, it's it's the story behind it is 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.680 kind of bizarre to um. I was reading a little 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:45.920 bit about this. Like, one thing we have to keep 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.240 in mind is that coming back to the period that 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.960 the book comes out, So by the late seventies, Michael 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.600 Crichton was already a big name, both with books but 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.680 also with movies. We'll get into of that in a bit, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.400 but the story goes that he had this idea to 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.000 do a modern King Solomon's Minds type movie, a modern 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.720 jungle adventure but updated for modern audiences, with lots of 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.960 you know, Michael Crichton technos stuff in it. And twentieth 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.080 Century Fox loved it. In fact, they loved it so 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.560 much that they signed him to a contract to write 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.440 the novel, the screenplay, and direct it before there was 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.600 even a book Uh, he signed, but then he got 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.240 massive writer's block and had to use an isolation tank 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.040 to overcome it. And that is where Congo comes from. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:42.240 It emerges from the isolation tank. That makes sense. That 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.480 makes sense. And he had some really this original take 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.440 on the film that he was going to do. It 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.040 sounds like it was going to be extremely different, uh, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:56.320 and also kind of gave me the vibes of like, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.080 how is this going to get made? How are we 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:04.680 going to translate the story to a movie? Yeah, and 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.120 I think there were there were some some issues early on, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.120 just like how would you create like the guerrillas. And 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.880 I think one of the reasons they ended up making it, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.600 they're like, well, we've done Jurassic Park, now we can 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.040 do anything. Let's make c g I guerrillas. And I 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.000 think it didn't take them long to realize that that 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.440 a that wasn't really achievable, mainly because of the fur issue, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.000 but then also I think they encountered something that that 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.240 the filmmakers have have sort of have to rekeep reminding them, 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:33.640 and that is guerilla suits absolutely work. Guerrilla suits are great. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.240 You get a good physical actor in there who can 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:41.240 move around properly. And and it's amazing. It totally in fact, 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.920 it works so well. You know, you you will encounter 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.040 films like say, hell Boy. I remember seeing some behind 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.080 the scenes stuff with Giama do Toro. We was talking 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.960 about creating these um like secondary demon monsters that held 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.440 boy battles, and he was like, well, basically we said, 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.120 let's start with the guerilla suit and let's just monster 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.240 it up. Make it not a guerrilla but ad men, 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.400 but performance wise, it's essentially a guerrilla suit because that 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.479 absolutely works. Yeah. Yeah, that's really interesting because I do 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.800 think um and I just watched documentary about this the 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.120 other day about special effects, and I do think it's 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:18.520 interesting that like Jurassic Park was such this like touchstone 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.240 in terms of technology what we can do, and it 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.480 was a lot in a lot of ways, like they 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.359 had so many practical things, but they also had c 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:28.920 g I and so I think there was a lot 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.560 of like, well maybe c g I sounds cooler, like 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.119 this technology is newrous what much must be better? And 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.720 I think that we have seen and have talked about 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.760 like c g I is obviously gotten a lot better 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:46.159 since then, but in those early days especially, there was 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:51.840 something better. It worked better to have these guerrilla suits 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.199 as opposed to trying to do something with c g I. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:58.800 Like there Stan Winston who was behind it, like he 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.800 he created these, and I don't think I think it 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.119 would have been much worse if they had trying to 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.960 go a different route, especially because as we're going to 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.320 talk about there, I can't say it enough that this 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:16.920 guerrilla like drink some martini, like we can't. I think 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.800 if they had tried to c g I some of 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.800 this stuff, or gone a different way than guerrilla suits, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:26.240 then it would be funnier in a way that they 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.600 absolutely didn't intend. There are certain scenes in this movie 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.119 where I'm like, I can't tell if you meant for 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.000 this to be funny or not. But if they had 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.160 gone c g I guerrillas, it would be an entirely 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.480 different piece. Because there's plenty of stuff about this film 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.840 that does feel dated, be at this sort of high 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:45.680 tech stuff or the general like sheen that is over everything, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.840 and and like the film doesn't have like a visual 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:55.520 um vision. I guess that really supersedes that ninety five 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:00.320 nous of the whole picture. But the gorilla suits, amy 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.040 that they all look very real. You still buy them 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.199 like they hold up, even if there are other aspects 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:19.240 of filmed it down. It's true. It's true. So but 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.639 before we we go move on to the trailer, and 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.760 I'll one more thing I want to add is that, Yeah, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.680 I very much remember enjoying the book. I did read 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.119 the book first. On this one. It's full of a 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.240 lot of traditional jungle adventure story elements, but with the 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:37.200 added laser technology that's very much in there. It does 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:41.560 get progressively weirder as you end up learning more about 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.480 these mysterious gray apes in this lost city. And I 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.240 think a lot of this ties into some elements of 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.600 essentially what was kind of darwin exploitation fiction of yesteryear. Uh. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.639 We see this in um in the works of of 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:02.080 HP lovecrafts uh of acts concerning the late author German 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.360 um J. E. R. M. Y And but also Sir 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.159 Arthur Cunnan Doyle. Uh he had he had one of 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.480 the Sherlock Home adventures called the Adventure of the Crooked 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.200 Man and uh. And then there's also it's also worth 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.840 noting that the Lovecraft tail in question kind of links 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.760 back to an Edgar Rice Burrow story from nineteen sixteen 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:25.199 titled Tarzan and the Jewels of Opar, which also seems 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.000 very It seems like it was probably a primary inspiration 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:31.720 on Michael Crichton here because it concerns a lost city 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.800 and it also concerns a group of human ape hybrids 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.600 that protected and all of these films, I mean, all 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.919 these stories that I just mentioned, Uh, they all have 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:46.480 elements of human ape hybrid city and strange things, strange 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:51.320 apes and sort of evolution tinged danger. Yeah. Yeah, that's 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.240 a good point. And I do have a quote I 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.560 want to read at the end, but somebody was reviewing 0:20:55.600 --> 0:21:01.760 it and was just asking, like the monstrous gray apes 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:06.200 and this, if you dig too deep into why they exist, 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:13.640 it doesn't really make sense. Um. No, no, it doesn't 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.760 really make sense at all. But that's true. Yeah, that 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:21.000 kind of um, evolution gone wrong or maybe like even 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.479 our fears around evolution and even some of those past 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.199 perhaps scare stories and sometimes not scary stories of experiments 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.840 done with humans and apes and like the Soviet Union 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:33.600 and stuff like that, But then you always had kind 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.879 of the comedic tinge of you know, hearing the Henderson's, 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.240 Like there was a lot going on in that genre 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:44.439 activity or in that kind of specific idea. Uh so 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.760 that's interesting, all right, Well it is again a jungle 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.720 adventure movie, but with satellites and lasers. Let's go ahead 0:21:50.760 --> 0:22:03.680 and hear that fabulous mid nineties trailer audio to activate 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.840 the remote in the race for the world's most advanced 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:14.320 communications technology, are shocking discovery has been made. Lock your 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:20.960 remote giving a thermal reading result to six six. It 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.240 will take two long scientists into the heart of the 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:30.400 African jungle. There a secret hidden for two thousand years 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.159 owns the gay to the future. This is Karen Ross 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.800 eight one five to Houston. Do you read you used 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.440 to work and now you're trapical. Some will come to 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:45.480 it for science, the big deals. This is a big five, 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:51.119 some for fortune, an island line of incredible bounty, and 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.640 some to return home. She doesn't really belong anywhere? Does 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:59.320 she know she belongs here? Together they will search. My 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:01.360 boss thought I wasn't going to make it. He set 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:06.879 another expedition, drawn deep into a mystery camp destroid people 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:11.200 dead and greg gorillas. I saw one. And the more 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:16.040 they discover the same eer glyphics over and over, the 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:20.720 greater the danger. What did they say, we are watching? 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:39.640 You saw an animal move like that. How intelligent are 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:45.560 the too damn spots we're getting out of here? What 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.040 about put him on the iner species lift from the 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:54.760 best selling novel by the author of Jurassic Artu of 0:23:54.840 --> 0:24:05.360 the Villa Ape is true. Yea Congo where you are 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:14.760 the endangered species? See it sounds like it's going to 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.800 be an adventure. It sounds like something that you're gonna 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.040 You're gonna buy a lot of popcorn and cold before 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.920 and you're just just try not to pee the entire time. 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.280 There's a part of me that wishes I had seen 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:27.719 I think if I had seen the trailer and had 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:32.080 no idea about the movie, I wish I am jealous 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:36.159 I didn't get to have that experience. I suppose um, 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.240 because it's actually having seen it, it's a pretty accurate trailer. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.560 I was expecting something cheesier, to be honest, but it 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:49.160 could be because I've seen Congo a lot by now. UM, 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:53.520 so it didn't have exactly the as much of the 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.639 strangeness and dated vibe that I thought it would. And 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.040 it does feel very much like, Yeah, this is a 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:03.800 popcorn movie. Um, come out and enjoy your popcorn, have fun, 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.520 and then go and home and forget about it. I guess, yeah, 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.080 I don't know that much of the film really stuck 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.159 with me. In fact, there are elements of the film 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.400 that I remembered as being different because of the book. 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:18.879 Like I just ended up assuming that the parts of 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:22.280 the book were, uh, we're accurately depicted in the film, 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.119 and so I just remembered the film is having those details, 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.680 and uh, well, we'll come back to what those are 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.320 in a bit. But if you are looking to have 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:36.280 your first Congo experience, or your first Congo experience in decades, well, 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.320 lucky for you, Congo is widely available, well even if 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.600 if it's partially forgotten as much as a blockbuster can 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.800 be forgotten. I watched it on a very old feeling 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.680 DVD that I rented from Video Drum here in Atlanta. Uh, 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.000 there is a Blu ray from and then there in 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:57.080 their HD digital copies you can rent or purchase online. 0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.800 But I don't think it's received a full blown special 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.120 a ship. So there are no like real Congo extras 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.359 out there floating around, which seems weird, it does. I 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:11.840 couldn't really get a good grasp on that I own 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:16.720 the TVD because I never wanted to be without it 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:20.280 after that first time watching it. Um. But it is 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.560 one of those things where I honestly feel like most 0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:30.119 of the cast gave it there all they really did. Um. 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.840 But it's it's also got the vibe of like, Okay, 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:37.000 we did that, let's not talk about it anymore. I 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:41.480 do know Ernie Hudson has said he would reprise his 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:47.240 role as Monroe. I know, but I'm not sure, like 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.199 if there's any talk at all about the sequel. I 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.360 just know he said that he would do that. Um. 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.240 But yeah, and like you said, it was it was 0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:02.119 financially successful, but I think it wasn't because of the 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.760 critical review, which was not good. If we didn't make 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:07.560 clearer but I think we did, but it was not 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.239 good um because of that. And I don't think it 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.680 did as well as they wanted, even though it did 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:18.119 way better than it should have. Given the reviews, UM, 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.400 I think they've just sort of, yeah, put that one 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.360 up on the shelf. Uh, let's just forget that that happened. 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:31.000 It is. Speaking of reviews, UM, I had to revisit 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.520 Roger Ebert's review for the film because it's a pretty 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.639 fun review. It's a three star review to be clear, 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.240 So he didn't he didn't go beyond three stars on it. 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.879 But it's also kind of a glowing review of the film, 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.680 like he has a he has a lot of very 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.400 nice things to say about it and some of the performances. 0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.000 So I'll call back to that review a couple of 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.639 times in a bit. Yeah, I read that to you, 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.760 and I was amused by it because I was expecting 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.920 it to be negative. But he kind of seemed to 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.760 hesitate to say get it because I mean, he kind 0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:04.439 of seemed to be like, you know, this is just 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:10.000 it's a fun movie. It's got its issues, but I 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.520 had a good time watching it. Yeah, Ebert. Ebert would 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:18.840 would definitely fall on on that line for various film reviews. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:20.760 If it was just the top of the right type 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.240 of kind of weird film or pulpy film, like he 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.720 he would he would view it favorably. Um So, yeah, 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:31.240 I find myself agreeing with Ebert a lot on uncertain films. 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.760 All right, well, let's get into some We've discussed some 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.880 of the people already, but just to go through the list, 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.959 and I think some of these will especially behind the scenes, 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.000 uh names will help us sort of make sense of 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.200 like what Congo is, and I think, uh, you know, 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:53.040 pointing out that that Frank Marshall Born is both the 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.320 director and the executive producer. This feels kind of key 0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:01.160 because Marshall primarily known as a may your Hollywood producer, 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.800 and while he's not involved in the current Star Wars 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.960 stuff with his wife, he's still very much a part 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.280 of the Indiana Jones franchise, the Jurassic Park franchise, which 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.720 of course keeps coming back to life and and emerging 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:17.080 from eggs various other film and TV projects. His direct 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:21.720 as a director's output has been far smaller, but I 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.200 think this is perhaps key, Like it's like if we 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.040 think of the blockbuster as as not just a film, 0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.200 not just like a piece of art, but this sort 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.960 of colossal business project. Congo I think does kind of 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.440 feel like that, Like like, can you fault the fact 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.760 that the Congo exists as a finished film and made 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.680 more money than than it costs? You know, it seems 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:44.720 to have been a financial success. It checks off all 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.160 the boxes. You can't really fault it for that. You 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:51.640 might fault it for vision, You might say, well, you know, 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.240 it has this kind I've seen people point out what 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.080 has kind of like a TV almost looked to it. 0:29:56.080 --> 0:30:01.960 It doesn't feel suitably cinematic enough, etcetera. But there's no 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.880 fault in it from a business perspective. Yeah, yeah, I 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.360 mean it had all the ingredients there. And I do 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.120 think the timing of this is important to keep in 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.640 mind too, because again, it was a time when technology 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.040 was shifting, when what people had access to in terms 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.800 of technology was shifting, When what people could do in 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:24.040 terms of creating things with technology was shifting. UM. So 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:28.480 I think it very much was a product of its 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.840 time in that in that way where you know, the 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.560 idea of the blockbuster had been around since the seventies, 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.800 but it had kind of become a here's how you 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.640 do it by that point. But it also had these 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:46.360 pieces that were changing, um in terms of the technology especially, 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.640 so it is interesting to me that they did stick 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:55.720 with the guerrillas and suits, um, but also having these 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.720 people that had been involved in one way or another 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.760 in this type of bockbuster business, as you say, because 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:07.160 they did very much a business. UM. It's it's seeing 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.760 what came out of that, um. Because there are pieces 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.320 I feel like this is one of the things about 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.400 Congo is there. It's all there, but it's almost like 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.920 they weren't matched or they were like leaning in too 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.560 hard at in this comedic way at one point too 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.200 hard in this way. Like it was kind of like 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:30.760 a blockbuster, but not one that was uniform, if that 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.720 makes sense. Like there was a lot going on where 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.560 they're like, oh, let's try this, let's try this, let's 0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.640 try this, which all can work in a blockbuster, but 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.920 they did it from almost like three or four different 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.560 blockbusters and kind of trying to jam it together. Um yeah, 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.680 and I can see you might might chalk that up 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.560 to to Marshal and like like what's the director's vision 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.280 for it, and how much of what works in the 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.760 film is ultimately coming from all of the people who 0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.120 who give it their all for this performance of this 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.520 bit of the of the special effects. But still at 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.200 the end of the day, like Marshall is the one 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.560 he's landing the plane here, he's the one bringing the 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:10.600 ship to port. So, um yeah, it's a it's certainly 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.560 have to give him credit to all right, Um well, 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.120 Michael Crichton, we already mentioned him a bit already, but 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.760 live through two thousand and eight, probably one of the 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:22.360 best known novelists of the late twentieth century, and his 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.280 work continues to resonate, at least with some of the 0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:30.280 franchises that he helped establish, particularly Drastic Park in Westworld. Yes, um, 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.560 I and I loved, I love Drassic Park, and I've 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.880 read all of those books. Um, and it is very 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.800 because I've seen the movie first and reading Durassic Park 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.520 after you've seen the movie, and Lost World after you've 0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:45.680 seen the movie. Um, it is a lot more. There's 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.760 a lot more attention to detail, a lot more technology, 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:53.080 a lot more science. Um, which I guess that makes 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:56.000 sense in terms of what can translate to film, especially 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.560 a blackbuster film, and what can be in a book. 0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:00.880 But that that was something that was interesting to me 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.040 when I went back and read those books, was Wow, 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.960 this is a lot more detailed in terms of how 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:13.120 this would actually work. Yeah. Um. As a novelist, he 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.200 wrote several novels underpen names in the late nineteen sixties, 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.960 but then he published The Andromeda Strain that came out 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.320 in nine under his own name, and this prop propelled 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.440 him into bestseller status. Uh've very listed some of his 0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.960 his big novels, but he also entered into the film 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:34.479 world pretty early, directing and writing five films between four 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:39.440 West World um Coma, The Great Train Robbery based on 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:44.120 his book Looker, and Oh are you familiar with Runaway? 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:50.320 I'm not Runaway is this stupendous film that stars Tom 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.400 Selleck as like a cop who specialty is hunting down 0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:59.160 killer robots that are the work of the diabolical roboticist 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.800 played by Bean Simmons of Kiss. And I mean that's 0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.280 already enough. You've got a that's a lot just going 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.280 on visually with these two actors, but the tiny robots 0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:14.280 in question, So don't don't think um like black Mirror 0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:18.239 asks scary killer robot. These things look like something you 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:22.200 would see in the nineteen eighties special about the Future 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.880 of robots. You know, these are about as scary as 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.320 the little robot that came with the original Nintendo system 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:32.000 that puts the spinning disks on the controller. Wow, you 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:36.359 have told me so, It's it's worth It's worth coming 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.880 back to. But he also he also wrote nineteen seventy 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.400 three Extreme Close Up. He directed the eight Burt Reynald's 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.200 movie Physical Evidence. He didn't write that one, but that 0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:50.880 was his final directing credit, and yeah, Michael Crichton again, 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.240 I feel like, uh, you know, some of his works 0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.040 may feel a bit dated tech wise now, but a 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.160 lot of it still holds up and it's still very enjoyable. 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.439 But he did not write the screenplay. Screenplay credit goes 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:08.120 to John Patrick Shanley and this this. I don't know 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.799 if this actually played into your expectations of being a 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.560 serious minded film, but I could see where it might 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.680 have because this is a big name. I don't I'm 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:24.400 not familiar with it, with his name. I'm glad to 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.239 know that there could have been a legitimate reason other 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.720 than me misunderstanding what I think was just a sarcastic joke. 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.319 So I will take that lifeline that you're throwing me, 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.640 but please tell me more. Well, just think of it 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.000 this way. You're going into Congo, and you well, especially 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.080 as a modern viewer of Congo or a recent viewer 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.960 of Congo, you might well go into it and think, well, 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.400 this is written by the guy who won an Academy 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:53.520 Award for for writing Seven Moons Truck. This is the 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.759 guy who won both a Pulitzer Prize for Drama and 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.719 a Tony Award for Best Play in two thousand and 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:03.239 five for Doubt, a parable um he and he also 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:08.359 wrote Joe Versus the Volcano Alive UH and animated film 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.880 We're Back a Dinosaur Story. But still a number of 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.560 big films there that, especially when you're when you're looking 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.040 at the credentials here, I could and if if this 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.279 is the only name you recognize going into the film, 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.120 you might think it's going to be more of a 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.520 more of a drama. I wonder if they all have 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.560 to go back and look. I wonder if they include that, 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.120 you know how, sometimes they'll be like, and coming from 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:34.440 this award winning UH writer, maybe they did include that, 0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.960 And I was like, ah, that proof. I think I've 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.400 seen his name, and I've watched several of the trailers, 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.440 and I'm not exactly sure which one of them we 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.200 ended up sourcing here in the episode, but at least 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:46.880 some of the trailers mentioned him by name, so I 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.719 think they were very much like, Hey, you liked Moonstruck, Well, 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.719 I hope you like Killer Apes because Congo is coming 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.840 to theaters, but only for a couple like twenty minutes. 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.840 You have to wait get a taste in the beginning, 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:13.240 but otherwise, well, well, let's get into the cast here, because, 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.680 as we mentioned earlier, our lead here, our leading, our 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:20.719 lead um star as well as the lead character is 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:25.680 Dr Karen Ross, played by the fabulous Laura Lenney. Yes, uh, 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:30.279 who I love and probably uh And this might be 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.000 saying something about me. I don't know, but I know 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:38.040 her best from the Mothman prophecies that movie, which I 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.080 know is not. She is a great actor and has 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.040 done like amazing award winning work, and she did reach 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:45.719 out in that movie. But that is the thing. When 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.480 I was a kid, I love that movie. I would 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.800 watch it all the time. I remember very little that 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.040 I think. That's one that was kind of on in 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.600 the background for me. So I just remember scenes of 0:37:55.680 --> 0:38:00.319 Richard Gear, like standing in the in the dark and 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.080 there was a bridge, and there maybe being not as 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.719 much Mothman as I thought there would be. There is 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.960 very little Mothman. This is true. I am somebody who 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.560 does enjoy as much as I as I've been making 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:16.759 fun of Congo, actually do really enjoy like kind of 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.759 like mystery. They would do like flashes of Mothman if 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.759 you like paused at the right time, you'd be like 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.960 there is like I liked that kind of stuff a lot, 0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:27.960 so I think it worked for me, and it did 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:32.400 really scare me. Um. I'm a very imaginative, still am person, 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.799 so I think I got I got all up in 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.080 my head about Mothman. There's a screeching owl outside my window, 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.480 and I was convinced it was math Man like um. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.640 And yet I do like scary movies, so I would 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.520 watch it over and over again, even though it did 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:49.239 scare me well. At the time that this movie came out, 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.040 Laura Linney, I think, was best known for Tales of 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:56.000 the City and also some smaller roles in various films. 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.080 But of course she's gone on too. I mean, I 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.200 think a lot of people now know her for tell 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:05.040 her performances in series like Ozark, John Adams, the movie 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.040 Kinzie and many more. Like you said, she's she's she's 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.040 a terrific actor. She's only gotten better. Uh As, of 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.040 course she's gotten better roles because I guess when you 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:17.240 come down to it, even though this is the lead character, 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.279 this is the she's got the starring role here, and 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:20.680 she does get a lot to do a lot of 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.759 heroic stuff. But she's a she's a tech expert, she's 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.640 a CIA operative there you know, she's looking essentially for 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.080 well not a lost love but a former love who 0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.319 is now lost in the jungle and possibly dead. So 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:38.440 it's not like there's no you know, dramatic material to 0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.560 to sink her teeth into here, but also like how 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:45.200 much room does Congo really give her to do that? Yes? Um, 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:50.240 But like I said, I feel that these actors really 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.960 did give it there all and she did. And I 0:39:54.000 --> 0:40:00.239 watching it um as uh modern viewer who didn't really 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.200 know what this was, but I knew it was from 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:05.719 uh And I know we're going to talk about this 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.040 in the plot because I have a lot of thoughts 0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:08.960 about it. But I did find it really fascinating that 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:13.759 she was a woman who was an ex CIA operative. 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:18.680 She was badass, Um. She had they like try to 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.200 make this romance between her and the other like main 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.720 male character that's not Ernie Hudson we're gonna talk about, 0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:29.399 but they never tried too hard, which I find really interesting. Um, 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.760 and I do. I really do enjoy that her Bruce 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:38.440 Campbell very brief cameo who was her ex fiance. It 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.400 seems like they still care about each other even though 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.920 they're exes, like there's just a lot of interesting stuff 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:48.040 that women unfortunately in general, don't get. Um, especially in 0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.759 the kind of these blockbuster action roles like that. I 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.440 did really enjoy h and I really love her and 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.560 Ernie Hudson together being kind of like we're running this 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.560 whole thing. Like I that's one of my very favorite parts. So, 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.080 uh yeah, the role didn't give her like she can 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:08.920 do so much more than that, and it was pretty 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.120 limited in terms of what she could do. But I 0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.480 did like that she had these pieces, but again, are 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.920 unfortunately pretty rare for a woman in a role like that, 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.879 especially at this time. Now, she does have at least 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.880 one really nice scene with uh. The the the the 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.280 top build male actor in the film, and that's Dylan 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:33.160 Walsh playing Dr. Peter Elliott. He's our primatologist who works 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.600 with Amy the Talking Gorilla for nineteen sixty three. Um. 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.239 He They do at least have one really nice scene 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.759 together on the airplane where we were sort of we 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:47.920 see uh Dr Elliott's whole deal with Amy, and now 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.960 she's on board and Amy is um is like jealous 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.759 of her presence, and so there's kind of a spat 0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.600 back and forth about not only like how we uh 0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:59.560 sort of like how we treat the natural world and 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.239 and animals, but also like what is the purpose of 0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.480 this mission? And it's just a nice little scene on 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.480 the airplane. There's nothing really action based going on. Yeah, yeah, 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.040 I do love the Oh gosh, I can't wait to 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.480 talk about Amy, but I do love this kind of 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:20.920 jealousy she has around uh Laura Lenny's character Dr Ross 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:32.319 and just parsing that it's a fun thought exercise. Now, now, 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.120 Dylan Walsh, he's fine in this, so I'm not going 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.200 to knock his performance at all. And in fact, it's 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.920 kind of nice that it's a performance that allows this 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.160 character to fade into the background a bed and not 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.920 not not feel like he's an action hero that just 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:48.959 just kind of pushed to the background by the plot. 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.680 Like his role is there. As as as Amy's kind 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.800 of like father figure and um and he phils, he 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:59.160 fulfills that really well. This is an actor mostly of television, 0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.000 include in the Hearts and Minds episode of the nineties 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.960 Outer Limits, which I'm not sure I've seen but but 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:08.400 looks rather good. He also appeared in such films as 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.080 The two thousand nine reboot of the Stepfather and two 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.920 thousands sixes of The lake House. Again perfectly likable in 0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:19.040 this film. Um, yeah, no complaints, I agree it. I 0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:24.520 also think it's I like, when we give the so 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.960 called heroes of something where they don't have to be 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:33.720 physical or like they're they're here, heroism isn't that aspect? 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.680 So I actually, do you really enjoy that? He has 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.000 some lines where he delivers them so well and they're 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.799 terrible lines, Like at one point he says, um, I'm 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:45.399 a primatologist, not a pound of sugar, Like there's only 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.200 so much he could have done as well, And I 0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.840 love that line. It is is very funny to me. 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:53.360 But I'm sure as an actor you read that and 0:43:53.400 --> 0:44:00.759 you're like, Okay, yeah, it's guess it's kind of a 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.120 thankless job in some respects, like just to have an 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.520 actualized who your role is to is do at times 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:11.320 make U challenging lines believable, make this character believable, but 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.600 in doing so, he's inevitably going to fade into the 0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.959 background compared to the more outrageous character such as Ernie 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:22.760 Hudson's Captain Monroe Kelly. Oh. This this character, this performance 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.920 just absolutely rules. He delivers every line where you're like, 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.000 I just want I just want you, I just want 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.960 this whole movie to beet you does it so well. 0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:38.960 He's so like charming and confident and and just like 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.520 overall unflustered even when he is flustered. Like one of 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.480 his favorite lines for me is when he says so 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:53.000 to me, hilariously, I run away because he runs away 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.800 from a charging guerrilla, and I just love that. I 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.359 love that he kind of embraces even after he told 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.239 Dylan Watching's character like, you don't run a way, but 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.680 he did it. I don't know that. There was a 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.200 lot of subversions with him that I very much enjoyed, 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.680 And just the way he seemed to be having the 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:14.359 time of his life with his character, um, it made 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.239 it very enjoyable to watch this performance. Yeah, this is 0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:21.200 one of those performances where every little thing he does 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.920 is so entertaining. Like there's a there's a scene in 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.520 the movie where they're just handing out little air conditioning 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.480 units for the tents and he accepts one, and it's 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.760 it's it's great, Like nothing happening in the scene except 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.759 Captain Monroe Kelly accepted an air conditioning unit and it 0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.840 was it was so charming. Yes, yes, So much of 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:47.680 what he did he clearly like made the as an actor, 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:51.080 went through and made the like fun decision or the decision, 0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.719 and like he thought about his character. And so there's 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.960 a lot of times things are you just are like, oh, 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:58.719 I pick up this air conditioning unit, but he like 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.680 thought about it and acted it and made it fun 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.960 and memorable. Like so much of his character is that. 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.160 And there's so many lines he he has that he 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:13.160 delivers in a way that is I mean, he just 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:18.080 immediately makes you blanko Like it's just like, oh, so 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:23.280 interesting and cool. And I love when Dylan Washing's Washing's 0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.400 character has a leech, you know, which I'm sure we're 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.839 going to talk about, but he's just captain and Roe 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:32.399 Kelly is just like, you deal with it. It's your leech, 0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:39.240 passes him the lit cigar cigarette. Yes, when he sees Amy, 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.040 he just immediately was like, sure, this gorilla wants something 0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.759 to smoke. Okay, he puts like pills in her, but 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:50.560 there's just something about and that rolls with the punches, yeah, 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.200 and does it in a way that looks very cool 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.960 and it's very charming. Very cool, very charming, and in 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.840 Ebert's review, he did he seemed to really love this 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.239 performance as well, and he points out that, like, there's 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.000 a little bit Clark Gable to this performance, there's a 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.880 little bit Stuart Granger. It's a droll performance, and the 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:14.040 character has both sardonic detachment but also heroic courage. So 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:18.160 he's you know, he's he's, uh, he's kind of right 0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.360 there in the middle. He's he's he's kind of a 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.400 road but not not to the point where you're like, 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.000 can we trust Captain Monroe Kelly. They're not playing that 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:29.480 game with this character. And uh, um, yeah, he has 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.759 his he has his flaws, but they're not tragic flaws. Uh. 0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.759 He's just a delight to watch on screen the whole time. Yeah, 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.560 And that is one thing that Congo did that I 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:42.440 can't really get a grasp on if they did intentionally 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.920 all the time, but they did subvert a lot of 0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.080 like action movie tropes in particular. Um, I mean, they 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:51.440 leaned into a lot of it, but a lot of 0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.440 it they did. They took things in a way I 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:57.839 wasn't expecting. So there's a scene towards the end where, um, 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.200 very reminiscent of Drastic Park, where dr Ross is like, 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.840 I'm going in this temple. I'm going in. Give me 0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.280 a gun, give me a radio. I'm going and Monroe 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:10.080 Kelly has it. He's like, no, no, no, it's not safe, 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.960 you know, implied like for a woman, I'll do it, 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:15.600 and then he pauses for like a little second and 0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:19.440 it's like, but I'm also scared. He keeps the gun 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.160 and just the radio and they going together like I'm 0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:23.759 not going to look like. They have so many fun 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.560 moments like that where you're expecting it to go one way, 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:31.880 um and it doesn't. And I think for this character 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:35.400 where it is there's a little bit of confusion about 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.959 who's supposed to be the traditional hero, and he sort 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:41.880 of emerges as more of the like strong leader that 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:46.000 we are typically align with hero. I like that it's 0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.840 sort of more spread out with this these characters, that 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.680 it's not just one um. But he does have those 0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.160 kind of moments where he's not like he's like, no, 0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:56.640 you're coming with me, I'm afraid to go in there too. 0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:00.920 Like I like it that he just acknowledges that, um, 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:05.080 I don't know. It is a very fun performance to 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.360 watch for sure. Now. Ernie Hudson has been in just 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.880 so many things since I think the mid nineties seventies, 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.600 but of course he's probably most famous as being Winston 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:17.160 z More from the Ghostbusters franchise. He was in The Crow, 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.840 he was in such TV series as Oz and The 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:23.560 Family Business. But I've yeah, I've seen him point out 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.680 that this was one of his favorite performances, if if 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:30.799 not his favorite performance that he got to give. All right, 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.719 now we've already mentioned him, but we also have Tim 0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:39.960 Curry in this role, playing um Herkimer Homolka. Oh man. 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.520 This is this is the role that Ebert described as 0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:45.680 the Peter laure role, and I think that's I think 0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:47.640 it's pretty accurate. This is the kind of role Peter 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.600 Laurie would have played in a jungle adventure movie like this, 0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:55.680 the mysterious European figure with suspicious morals and aims. And 0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:59.320 Curry the legend that Tim Curry is. Of course, he 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:03.759 just breathe so much life into this scoundrel. Yes, oh 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:06.799 my gosh, I think I have. I have done at 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.480 least one viewing where I just watched Tim Curry the 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:15.280 entire time, and he is like in the background, acting 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.799 his ass off, like they're like the scene where they 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:24.160 first get to Africa and Eddie Ventrou I'll talk about 0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.160 like is talking about how much Amy is worth. He 0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:32.280 lowers his glasses and has the most like star struck 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.880 shocked look. I mean he's not even the focus of 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.839 the scene, like he's just back there doing his thing. 0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:44.400 He's got the most unexplainable accent that he just leans 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.000 into so hard. And he has some of my favorite 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.360 lines where he's like that gorilla knows where the Lost 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:55.920 City of Zinges, Like he just, oh, there's something about 0:50:56.000 --> 0:51:01.480 it that he elevator did a thing like he was like, 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:03.640 you know what, I'm going to really lean into this 0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:09.359 suspicious Romanian philanthropists going around the world and doing good. 0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.000 Who really wants to find this law city of Zinge? 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:18.600 Like it's beautiful? Oh yeah, he um the accent, Yes, 0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.080 he's quite a mouthful. That's that's definitely worth noting. But 0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:23.600 but yeah, there's so many little moments, but then he 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:25.680 he gets those big moments too, like when they finally 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.960 enter the Lost City of Zinge and he gets to 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.560 just be star eyed and wonder at all. And I 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.360 think he has a line like the myth of the 0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.040 killer of the guerrilla is true, you know, and it's 0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:40.279 it's it's so wonderful. Yes, oh my gosh. And I 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:45.279 do love about him, like he's the villain absolutely, um. 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.840 But he's also kind of the like bumbling, wide I 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:55.120 confused villain in a way you don't see too often. Yeah, 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.319 Like he's in way over his head, I think, as 0:51:57.360 --> 0:52:00.719 well as the key aspects of it. He's instantly kind 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:07.200 of like wide eyed and confused and concerned his money 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.640 flow is always getting interrupted, which I very much enjoyed. Um. 0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:14.239 There's just something that feels kind of unique about his 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:20.520 take on this very stereotypical, mysterious European villain that is 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:25.279 pretty funny. Um. It's funny to see him out of 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.200 his out of his depth, out of his league. And 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:31.040 I love how everybody knows who he is. Everybody's like, oh, 0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.799 this guy, don't trust him. You can't trust this guy 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:39.480 what's doing because everyone who encounters especially once they they 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:43.200 get to Africa, everyone there is familiar with him, and 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:48.000 he does not have a good reputation. No U. Now 0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:49.880 that What can we say about Tim Curry? I mean, 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:54.120 obviously a legend. Bor six is probably one of his 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:56.480 most famous roles is of course Dr frankenfurt Or from 0:52:56.480 --> 0:53:00.040 the Rocky Hart Picture Show Back in he was the 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:03.120 original stage version as well, he was Wadsworth and eighty 0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:08.120 five Clue he was the demon Darkness Legend. Other memorable 0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:12.960 films include Annie adaptation of It, of Course, in which 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:16.160 he played Pennywise, the dancing clown. And he's also done 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.320 a lot of great voice work over the years, including 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:21.279 the Pirates of dark Water and season five and six 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.040 of Star Wars The Clone Wars, in which he took 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:27.960 over the role of Palpatine slash Darth Sidious after the 0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:31.840 passing of Ian Ambercrombie. Amber Ambercrombie was pretty terrific in 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:33.960 that role, but Curry he also brought his own like 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:37.520 level of greatness to that voice role as well. Yeah. Yeah, 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.920 I think he's really really great at imbuing so much 0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:45.239 character with so with like one line, he can do it. 0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:47.520 So I often joke like, if somebody could win an 0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.680 Oscar for one line, I would give it to Tim 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:53.280 Curry from Home alone too, for how he says pizza 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.960 like he's never pronounced that word before, because he's that's 0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.800 two below him. Like he does so much of that stuff. 0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:03.400 For he expresses so much with his voice and how 0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.239 he delivers lines. Um, what what is he doing in 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:13.440 hum alone? Too? I don't remember he's the Conciers. He 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.320 should have wanted an Oscar for that role. I I 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:19.040 like only half kidding, um, but he does that. He 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:21.319 does that so well where he that was a minor role, 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.200 but to me, like, I remember so much of how 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.799 he delivered that line, that one word, and it communicated 0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:32.520 so much about that character. Um. And I also I 0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:34.800 loved him and these are this is a reflection of 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:37.040 my childhood. I loved him in a Muppet Treedsure Island 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:43.480 and Wild Thornberries. He was a voice in the Wild Thornberries. Yeah. 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:45.800 So he's done a lot, a lot of stuff like that, 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:49.759 and I just yeah, there's so many Like if I 0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.480 if we wanted this episode to be basically just as 0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:53.960 quoting the movie, so much of it would just be 0:54:54.080 --> 0:55:00.560 me like loving Tim Curry's delivery of these often very hilarious. 0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:05.640 I love it. I love it. Those are some of 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:07.799 the main actors involved here, But we're gonna roll through 0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:09.160 some of the other ones. Maybe it maybe a little 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.920 quicker on some of these because there's less to say 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:14.399 about them. But I thought I was gonna skip over 0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:17.360 this one. But Richard, the secondary primatologist, is played by 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.759 Grant has Love born nine three. He's done a lot 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.360 acting over the years, but he's primarily known as a producer. 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:27.560 He's a longtime collaborator with George Clooney and he's finding 0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:30.880 this no problems there. I think he's co by Gorilla eventually, 0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:35.239 like most Moss in the film. Oh and then we 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.960 have we have Jodan Baker in the film. Jodan Baker 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:43.680 born six plays r B. Travis Baker, of course, loud 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:47.799 Texan actor who is perfect in this as the enraged, 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:53.360 just comedically greedy head of a massive media corporation to 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.520 his his son. Right, this is like Bruce Campbell's character 0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:01.560 is his son who is suddenly missing, presumed murdered by 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:06.239 guerrillas in the in the jungle, and all he can 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.319 think about is those diamonds. We've got to get those 0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.640 diamonds and and I mean, that's that's all. And he 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.239 just rages the whole He's not on the screen a lot, 0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:17.800 but when he's there, he's swinging golf clubs at computer screens. 0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:22.200 He's yelling at Laura Lenney. Just a completely hateable character. Yes, 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.520 he also has many lines that I'm like, I'm impressed 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:27.560 with how much you gave this because it's not that 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.239 great of a line. But one of my favorites is 0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:35.600 I could be human later. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:39.799 just a caricature of of of like a media corporation head. 0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:44.920 But as a characterature caricature, it's very well done. Um Baker, 0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.080 of course, has an impressive filmography going all the way 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.040 back to the mid sixties. He did a lot of 0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:51.000 TV work, but he hit a big time in nineteen 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:54.439 seventy threes Walking Tall. Some of his more memorable films 0:56:54.480 --> 0:57:00.799 include Mitchell, Final Justice, Fletch. Oh, then we get into 0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:03.319 the James Bond era he's in. He's one of those 0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:07.239 guys that has the has the honors of playing two 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:11.080 different characters in different Bond films. So he was seven 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:14.440 The Living Daylights, where I think he's a villain, But 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.120 then he's also in both Gold and I and Tomorrow 0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:20.520 Never Dies, playing a different character who's on the good 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:25.520 guy side of things. Yeah, good for him, Jodan Baker. Okay, 0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:27.880 now we've mentioned Amy the Talking Guerrilla, who is just 0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:32.440 one of the greatest characters certainly in this film, and 0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:39.080 maybe you could make a role for like Cinema as all. Now, 0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:41.440 this is a role that again, like all the gorillas 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.240 in the in this film, they're brought to life via 0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:50.720 fabulous guerrilla costumes, but also tremendous physical performances within the costume. 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:54.400 And I believe there are two different individuals credited. One 0:57:55.000 --> 0:58:00.200 is um Lola No. Two credited is playing Amy Um, 0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:03.600 the first of two short statued actors credited with the role. 0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.880 I think she's been more active as a producer Um. 0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:12.200 But the other is Misty Roses three and uh Rosis 0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:15.880 is a wonderful performer responsible for bringing a live such 0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.840 characters as cool Is it cool? I can't remember this 0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:24.840 character's name. How we said quil quel quill Okay, the 0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.280 the Let's see what does he keep saying in the 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:32.640 Mandalorian He's like, I have spoken, but I have spoken, Yes, 0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.560 So she is the physical performer. Nick Nulty did the voice, 0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:38.120 of course, but she's the physical performer of that character. 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:41.160 She was also the physical performer of the frog Lady 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:46.240 in what the second season That's awesome. So there there 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:50.400 are a number of Star Wars Connections to Congre. Alright, 0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.560 this one's a blink and miss it role here, but 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:56.040 Peter Jason plays a character named Mr. Janis is just 0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:58.360 one of the individuals at the airport before they leave 0:58:58.600 --> 0:59:03.080 for Africa, Borneo memorable face from various films over the decade. 0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:07.080 He's popped up in things like Alien Nation, Prince of Darkness, Dreamscape, 0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:11.480 They Live, Mortal Kombat, and Escape from l A And 0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:14.320 another one you might blink and miss is Jimmy Buffett 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.200 shows up in this movie. He plays the pilot of 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:21.000 the Seven seven that they that they board to travel 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.760 to Africa. So yeah, for some reason, the High parrot 0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:27.080 Head himself is presence in Congo, and I guess has 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.920 has blessed Congo. Yes, in that way, I mean it 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:32.480 feels right for some reason, of course he's there. I 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:45.600 don't know, now real we mentioned Bruce Campbell's in this, Yes, 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:51.120 Bruce Campbell's in this for a hot minute. He's at 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:54.480 the very beginning of the film and then he this 0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:57.080 is kind of a spoiler, he is assaulted by some 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:00.200 sort of Killer eight and the movie keeps the hope 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:03.400 alive that he will come back. And I remember by 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.520 the time I saw this movie. I had already seen 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:09.400 maybe Army of Darkness, so it's familiar with his work, 1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:12.320 even if I hadn't seen the Evil Dead movies yet. 1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:15.560 So I was I was excited that he was in here, 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:18.760 and then I was disappointed that he was gone. But 1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:20.840 the movie kept the hope alive that we would find 1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.680 him again and he would help fight the guerrillas and uh, 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:25.320 and of course we find out at the end he's 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:28.200 just he's been dead the whole time. He's really dead. Um. 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.080 But in a way this in the film it ended 1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:33.960 up kind of subverting expectations as well, because, especially as 1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:36.400 a kid, not knowing maybe how structures of these things 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:39.240 for likely will work. You think, well, Bruce Campbell's in this, well, 1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:40.840 he's going to show up at the end and he's 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:44.360 gonna change saw some apes. But that's not happened. Now 1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:48.040 we get lasers instead. Um. And I will say a 1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:50.600 lot of the reviews I read from this time, it 1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:53.200 was people seem to that was one of the big 1:00:53.240 --> 1:00:57.760 critiques people had was I guess they felt tricked that 1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:00.520 he was in it and then just never he's in 1:01:00.640 --> 1:01:03.640 it for like I said, maybe a minute, maybe a 1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:07.080 little more, but then he doesn't come back, and people 1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:12.439 were like, this is criminally this is a criminally short cameo. Um. Yeah, 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:16.120 because Army of Darkness came out ninety two, so it 1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:19.280 had had time to of course not only hit theaters, 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:22.440 but to really dig into the VHS market, in the 1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:25.480 home rental market. So again this is me my my 1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:29.800 sort of childhood memory of this, but or junior high 1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:33.000 memory of this or whatever. I remember feeling like the 1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:37.600 world was hot for more Bruce Campbell action and maybe 1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:40.760 maybe they weren't, or maybe the studio system that had 1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:45.800 not really caught wind of the hunger yet. Yeah, I 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:47.520 think you were. I think you were picking it up. 1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:49.800 I think people wanted Bruce Campbell, but you know, this 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:55.960 is what we got. We also have ottawally akanaway in 1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:58.960 this uh he he just plays uh. I think there's 1:01:58.960 --> 1:02:01.400 one of the many soldier characters that sort of populates 1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:04.800 the background of the film. But this is of course 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:09.040 English fashion model turned actor born seven, who had pretty 1:02:09.040 --> 1:02:12.680 big roles on TV's OZ and also Lost, which you 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:15.680 mentioned earlier, but this was one of his first screen roles. 1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:17.640 He's gonna to act in a number of big pictures, 1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:20.600 including the Mummy Returns, The Born Identity, the remake of 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:24.880 The Thing, the Second Thor Movie, and Suicide Squad. So 1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:27.200 he's been in quite a few things. He also writes 1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:32.480 and directs now To getting into two surprisingly uncredited performances 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:35.680 in this. The first we have Delroy Lindo pop up 1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:39.760 in this playing Captain Wanta. This is one of This 1:02:39.880 --> 1:02:42.800 is a corrupt military official that they encounter again on 1:02:42.960 --> 1:02:46.120 the way to the Lost City, and he like hits 1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:49.920 him up for a bribe and also just talks about 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:54.200 how much he hates Tim Curry's character. He's really really 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:57.560 hard on on Homolka here, even telling him that he 1:02:57.600 --> 1:03:02.840 has to stop eating the sesame cake in Hotel twice. 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:07.880 One of my favorite articles. When I was the next 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:09.160 day after I watched this and I was like, what 1:03:09.280 --> 1:03:13.280 did I just watch? Somebody wrote imagine a script that 1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:16.760 went through rewrites and still had to stop eating my 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:23.720 sesame cake in there, not once but twice. But Linda 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:26.160 makes you believe it. It's a yes, a small but 1:03:26.520 --> 1:03:31.200 but memorable little performance here, Linda. Of course, some of 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:34.360 his biggest films have included Malcolm X, Get Shorty to 1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:37.840 Five Bloods, and The Core. He's also slated to have 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:39.920 a major role in the Blade reboot if they ever 1:03:40.000 --> 1:03:43.160 actually make that movie. I don't know what he's going 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:46.160 to play in that, but I kind of have I'm 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:48.320 wondering if he's gonna play a whistler character, if he's 1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:51.840 gonna be like the mentor to Blade. But we'll see. 1:03:52.440 --> 1:03:54.520 And then you you mentioned this one already, but we 1:03:54.560 --> 1:03:57.000 have this character Eddie Ventro who shows up and this 1:03:57.160 --> 1:04:01.320 is an uncredited performance by Joe Pantolian though. Yes, and 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:05.840 I was a huge Matrix fan. I had an extremely 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:10.360 embarrassing email address which you unfortunately i've seen, um, which 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:14.280 I've told that story before, but anyway, um, because I 1:04:14.320 --> 1:04:16.920 had a huge crush on Neo Keanu Reeves from The Matrix, 1:04:17.160 --> 1:04:18.400 but I didn't know he was going to be in 1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:21.760 this movie. And uh when he showed up, that was 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:23.440 one of the things I shouted to the other room, 1:04:23.560 --> 1:04:28.680 was like, it's joey pants, it's Cipher. Who's here. My 1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:32.720 friend was like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it's 1:04:32.760 --> 1:04:36.400 a It's a great, slimy little role that he plays 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:38.320 like that. I think one of the first things that 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:41.080 he does is he offers to buy Amy the Gorilla. Yes, 1:04:41.800 --> 1:04:50.720 like immediately immediately yeah, so um yeah. Joe Pantoliano here 1:04:50.760 --> 1:04:55.000 probably have best known for playing Cipher the Matrix Caesar 1:04:55.080 --> 1:04:58.360 in Is Bound, and he played the character Teddy in 1:04:58.440 --> 1:05:02.880 two thousands of Memento. So yeah. Talented character actor that 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:07.480 often plays kind of slimy, sleazy characters, morally ambiguous and past. 1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:09.840 I think he was also in a couple of Tales 1:05:09.880 --> 1:05:12.640 from the Crypt episodes, which of course perfect place to 1:05:12.760 --> 1:05:16.240 stick somebody with these talents. Yes, yes, I do love. 1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:19.080 He has a scene where, like the he re emerges 1:05:19.120 --> 1:05:21.880 after I assumed we would never see him again, um, 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:24.600 and he's getting off the plane and he has like 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:27.120 a head injury and he makes the like the funniest 1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:30.160 sound to me where it's like, oh, I don't know, 1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:32.000 there's just something about how he did that that cracks 1:05:32.040 --> 1:05:34.080 me up every time I watched this. Um in case 1:05:34.120 --> 1:05:36.560 I forget it for later. What happens to his character 1:05:36.640 --> 1:05:38.680 in this film? Do we see him killed by Gorilla 1:05:38.760 --> 1:05:40.520 or something? Because at some point later in the film, 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:43.360 I'm like, where did he go? He kind of just 1:05:43.560 --> 1:05:47.880 wanders He's like, here's your equipment. Have fun? He doesn't, 1:05:47.920 --> 1:05:50.520 he says he doesn't like to leave the airport, so 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:56.600 I assume he just haunts the airport. Okay, well, let's 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:58.960 get into the plot a bit. Yes, Oh gosh, I'm 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:04.320 so excited. So we opened in sub Saharan Africa, presumably 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:06.960 the Congo given the name of the film. We have 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:10.160 Bruce Campbell's character Charlie leading a team into the wild 1:06:10.320 --> 1:06:15.240 surrounding mountain Mukino. We're told here some sort of volcanic mountain, 1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:18.280 and almost right away we see he's packing heat like 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:22.440 we see him like holding the pistol there. And I 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:24.880 guess this is all kind of nice abversion because they 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:27.840 really kind of present him as like, this is our star, right, 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:30.160 this is the action hero. This is the guy who's 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:32.040 going to take us through the movie, right, And I 1:06:32.120 --> 1:06:34.880 do want to before we move on again. I love 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:37.680 when you can watch a movie and be like, oh, 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:42.600 this is the nineties or whatever. The Congo title is 1:06:42.880 --> 1:06:47.560 done in the most glorious like gold World word art 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:50.040 if you remember what that was. Um So it's like 1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:52.120 a fading of gold to orange and then it has 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:57.240 a blue drop shadow glow and that's like nineties. Oh 1:06:57.320 --> 1:07:00.680 my gosh. So I'm I'm a sucker for that kind 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:03.440 of stuff. But yeah, I do think you know, if 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:08.000 you have started watching this and you're you're like, I 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:09.960 guess this is our hero, and then it doesn't really 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:11.880 turn out to be what you think it's going to 1:07:12.000 --> 1:07:14.320 be at all. Right, Well, for one thing, it's like 1:07:14.360 --> 1:07:17.080 we're very much in sort of Indiana Jones territory. And 1:07:17.160 --> 1:07:19.960 then we cut to space. We're in orbits and we 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:22.520 see this satellite, which this is one of the moments 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:25.840 where the effects feel rather dated because it it's like 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:29.400 a very dated c G I satellite orbiting the Earth. 1:07:29.880 --> 1:07:32.360 And uh uh, this of course is going to be 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:34.280 an important part of the plot. This is what is 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:38.720 enabling him to communicate, uh without any lag at all, 1:07:39.080 --> 1:07:41.640 with a Houston Control center. That's where we go to next, 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:45.520 and here we meet Laura Lenney as our our former 1:07:45.640 --> 1:07:49.760 CI agent Dr Karen Ross, and there they initiate a 1:07:49.800 --> 1:07:54.080 satellite call to Bruce Campbell's team around the volcano and 1:07:54.120 --> 1:07:57.760 they start talking about blue diamonds. Yes, And as much 1:07:57.800 --> 1:07:59.400 as I make fun of the script, and I do, 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:02.040 I will say they accomplish a lot pretty quickly. So 1:08:02.080 --> 1:08:04.480 when you first see Laura Lenny, she's walking in with 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:06.840 a colleague of hers who has a very hilarious like 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:10.400 password which is just his name, Rudy, Rudy Rudy Um 1:08:11.200 --> 1:08:15.600 to get in. But it like immediately establishes that the 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:19.559 character we're about to meet, who is Bruce Campbell's father, Um, Travis, 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:26.400 is paranoid. He's very very paranoid, and he doesn't trust people. Um. 1:08:27.640 --> 1:08:31.000 But yeah, I love too how quickly there's so much 1:08:31.080 --> 1:08:33.840 whiplash in this movie where you're like, oh, diamonds, oh, 1:08:34.000 --> 1:08:39.160 but for satellites. And of course Bruce Campbell's character has 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:42.840 brought a functional laser gun into the wild with him 1:08:42.960 --> 1:08:46.000 and immediately loads up one of these blue diamonds and 1:08:46.240 --> 1:08:49.200 test fires that's starting a small fire behind him, and 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:52.519 we're like, Okay, I'm not completely clear on how all 1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:57.280 this works, but blue diamond apparently works. Blue diamond lasers 1:08:57.320 --> 1:09:00.840 are important and uh and it back in Houston, they're 1:09:00.920 --> 1:09:04.679 very pleased with how this is all shaping up. Yes, yes, 1:09:04.960 --> 1:09:07.680 I love how they don't bother to explain it. I like, 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:09.760 legitimately love that when movies are like, you know what, 1:09:09.840 --> 1:09:12.160 we're not really about this part of it so I 1:09:12.200 --> 1:09:15.559 can explain it. Um, but he even makes a mention 1:09:15.640 --> 1:09:18.200 of like, if this isn't a good enough diamond, essentially 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:21.759 like we need a better diamond and then will really 1:09:21.840 --> 1:09:25.800 be in business. So at this point, one of the 1:09:25.840 --> 1:09:29.920 other members of of Bruce Campbell's characters, Charlie's team, calls 1:09:30.000 --> 1:09:32.040 him over and says, hey, I found something. Jump into 1:09:32.120 --> 1:09:34.040 this water here and swim under these ruins with me, 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:37.640 and he's like, okay, I'll do that, and so they 1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:40.920 jump in and lo and behold. They discover a lost 1:09:40.960 --> 1:09:45.160 city hidden beneath the jungle canopy, and the other guy, 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:48.040 the character that will not be around for long, but 1:09:48.120 --> 1:09:50.200 we find out he'll be back actually, but then not 1:09:50.320 --> 1:09:53.000 be around for long. A guy named Jeffrey stresses that 1:09:53.160 --> 1:09:55.800 this is a big fine, this is amazing, and he's 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:58.400 telling him all this in they're standing in front of 1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:03.280 this ominous stone rella statue, their sinister music playing. We 1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:06.040 can already tell nothing good it's going to happen here. Yeah, 1:10:06.240 --> 1:10:08.800 it really ramps up pretty quickly. You're like, oh wow, 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:14.519 something is just about to go wrong, and uh. This 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:18.360 has one of my very favorite like horror elements where 1:10:18.920 --> 1:10:22.160 one of them goes missing. Jeffrey goes missing, Bruce Campbell's 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:25.280 kind of staring off in the distance, maybe getting you know, wind, 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:32.000 something's not right. Calls from his friend eyeball just out 1:10:32.040 --> 1:10:36.840 of nowhere. Here's a human eyeball uh in front of him. Yeah, 1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:38.560 and then we get we cut to the monster p 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:41.000 o V. There's this growl and then we get the 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:45.880 shot of Bruce Campbell screaming, and it's it's kind of 1:10:45.960 --> 1:10:48.320 interesting to think like that, you try to put yourself 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:50.639 in the mind of the monster here. So the grey gorilla, 1:10:51.040 --> 1:10:55.759 after brutally murdering the other guy, pauses to pluck eyeballs 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:58.800 out and then sort of mess with Charlie here, like 1:10:59.040 --> 1:11:01.559 just chunk a few eyeballs at him, get his attention, 1:11:01.680 --> 1:11:04.280 and then kill him. So they're very twisted on the 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:09.760 part of our our our ap adversaries here. So back 1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:12.800 in Houston, they try and call back on the video chat. 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.960 They see everyone is dead, something is running around, and 1:11:16.080 --> 1:11:18.479 ap attacks the camera. They get kind of this freeze 1:11:18.520 --> 1:11:20.439 frame that they're going to have to figure out later. 1:11:20.560 --> 1:11:23.040 So things get a little bit event horizon here. They've 1:11:23.080 --> 1:11:25.599 got some footage that they're going to have to tinker 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:27.840 with later. Uh. It seems like there was a This 1:11:28.000 --> 1:11:31.120 was a thing for a while in there's always a 1:11:31.160 --> 1:11:34.280 situation where you have some strange footage and there's something 1:11:34.360 --> 1:11:36.720 computery you could do to it and you could get 1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:41.120 everything enhanced and figured out later on. Yes, Yes, and 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:42.920 there's a lot to there's a lot that I love 1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:45.479 about this part number one. This was such a trope 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:47.160 in the nineties. I don't know if you ever saw 1:11:47.240 --> 1:11:51.280 the Mary Kate Nashley movie it takes two, but there 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:53.880 was such a trope in the nineties that like, if 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:59.160 you could control communications like cell phones or new technology, 1:11:59.240 --> 1:12:01.160 you you could cant well everything, and it was such 1:12:01.200 --> 1:12:04.799 like a evil villain trope. And I love how Travis 1:12:04.880 --> 1:12:08.040 immediately when you meet this character, who's like, yeah, the 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:12.240 most over the top evil business, corrupt capitalist guy. Is 1:12:12.320 --> 1:12:15.839 it like that he's going to dominate the communications industry 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:19.360 with this diamond um and all of this is interspersed 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:22.799 with like the most nineties graphics and the most nineties 1:12:22.840 --> 1:12:25.080 sound effects to that like camera that they're looking in 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:29.080 on the camp site with it is just there's something 1:12:29.120 --> 1:12:32.000 about it that feels so from that time that it's 1:12:32.000 --> 1:12:34.720 it's like a whole a full body experience for me. 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:37.680 I'm like, oh, yes, this is nineties. Um. Yeah, I 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:40.640 think Tomorrow Never Dies, one of the Bond film we 1:12:40.720 --> 1:12:43.200 referenced earlier. I think that the villain in that one, 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:45.640 played by Jonathan Price, is also some sort of a 1:12:45.720 --> 1:12:49.439 media mole type character. Yeah, it was such a thing, um. 1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:52.880 And I do love that he This is when his 1:12:53.000 --> 1:12:55.200 line I mentioned earlier like I can be human later 1:12:55.360 --> 1:13:00.240 comes up like he's like immediately an overtop caricature. I 1:13:00.360 --> 1:13:03.559 love how laure Lennie's character Literally she says to him, 1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:07.120 are you for real? And she's in the most nineties 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:11.360 Khakis invest too, by the way. Um, And this is 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:13.800 when you kind of find out like she was dating 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:15.960 Bruce Campbell. They were going to get married and then 1:13:16.000 --> 1:13:18.080 they broke up for whatever reason, but she still obviously 1:13:18.120 --> 1:13:20.720 cares about him. And she has this confrontation with Havis like, 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:23.120 I'm not going in there unless you promised me you're 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:25.679 doing it for your son. If you're doing it for Charlie, 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:29.519 I'll go. But if I get one hint that this 1:13:29.720 --> 1:13:34.880 isn't for him, I'm gonna make you sorry. She says, Yeah, 1:13:35.040 --> 1:13:37.000 I love that he He does calm down a little 1:13:37.040 --> 1:13:39.120 bit and he's like like, yeah, I'm doing it for him. 1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:42.640 I did not find it very believable, but it's good 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:46.320 enough for her. She's like, Okay, all right, Yes, I 1:13:46.439 --> 1:13:49.320 believe you enough to go out and try and find 1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:52.760 him in the wild. Yes. And I also love one 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:55.840 of my favorite parts, which like right before it he 1:13:55.920 --> 1:13:57.880 said something pretty offensive, which was like maybe it was 1:13:57.920 --> 1:14:02.360 the locals. Um. Then he's like or a rival company, 1:14:04.000 --> 1:14:08.960 Like there's just something about him that's so he's so paranoid. 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:14.479 He's so so paranoid. Um. I also agree that she 1:14:14.680 --> 1:14:16.640 perhaps believed him too readily, but I also think she 1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:22.439 wanted to go, Like she she does still care about Charlie. Um. 1:14:23.160 --> 1:14:25.519 But yeah, he's not very believable at all. But maybe 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:29.759 that's just his constant vibe is just this level of anger. 1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:32.439 So yeah, and I think I think you're right. I 1:14:32.520 --> 1:14:34.800 think like she she wanted to go. She wants to 1:14:35.560 --> 1:14:37.880 to try and find Charlie. And so it's not that 1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:41.040 she's saying I'm not going unless like she's not really 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:44.640 looking for an affirmation from him. She's just trying to 1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:47.760 encourage the human side of him, like like, Okay, I'll 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:49.240 do this, but I want to see it like some 1:14:49.439 --> 1:14:52.559 acknowledgement that part of this is because you love your 1:14:52.600 --> 1:14:58.120 son right exactly and uh not you know, not sending 1:14:58.200 --> 1:15:00.920 me off to get kittled to get well that. Yeah, 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:12.640 but this is one of my This is when I 1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:17.120 was watching the movie, this cut that happens now, Oh whoa, 1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:21.680 this is what am I watching right now? And this 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:24.600 is when we get introduced to Amy. That's right, we 1:15:24.800 --> 1:15:27.960 we cut to our gorilla expert. Um. This is we 1:15:28.040 --> 1:15:32.160 meet our our primatologist characters, and we meet Amy the gorilla, 1:15:32.640 --> 1:15:35.479 and Amy is doing art, Amy is is making things. 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:38.479 But also we quickly learned that well, I guess we 1:15:38.560 --> 1:15:40.160 we kind of build up to this, right because we 1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:43.320 meet Amy and she's great and she's totally believable as 1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:46.960 a as a as a younger female gorilla. I guess 1:15:47.040 --> 1:15:49.080 I don't know. I went back and forth on how 1:15:49.160 --> 1:15:52.479 old Amy is because early on there is very much 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:54.960 like a childlike aspect to Amy that we latch onto. 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:58.400 But she's also she drinks, she's drinking martini, she's smoking 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.679 cigars and spoiler, but at the end of the movie 1:16:01.760 --> 1:16:04.320 she goes off and marries a silver bag, so she's 1:16:04.320 --> 1:16:07.400 like she's a an adult woman guerrilla too, and we 1:16:07.439 --> 1:16:10.080 should we shouldn't take that away from her. No, absolutely not. 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:12.679 I mean those are some of our favorite parts of Amy. 1:16:12.760 --> 1:16:19.240 Amy is multifaceted. Um And I think I just I 1:16:19.360 --> 1:16:21.160 need people to watch this if they haven't seen it, 1:16:21.280 --> 1:16:24.719 because you're watching it and you're like, oh, here's this gorilla. 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:28.479 This gorilla is drawing all these pictures that look very similar. Um. 1:16:29.640 --> 1:16:32.519 And I believe this is what they introduced, the stuffed 1:16:32.520 --> 1:16:36.040 animal named love e. Oh yes she shed because yeah, 1:16:36.040 --> 1:16:37.800 and this is another thing that builds up the sort 1:16:37.800 --> 1:16:40.599 of childlike nature because she has her loves, she has 1:16:40.720 --> 1:16:43.920 the little stuffed animal that she's carrying around. Right, So 1:16:44.000 --> 1:16:47.560 they're very much prompting you to believe, yeah, she's this, 1:16:48.240 --> 1:16:52.479 you know, more childlike gorilla and those other things which 1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:54.479 I can't wait to talk about more detail at the 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:59.120 Martini and whatnot come later. But right in the beginning, okay, 1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:05.800 it seems like a young, sweet gorilla. Yes, but but 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:08.040 of course we keep talking about Amy the talking gorilla, 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:11.519 and to get there together the movie it really doesn't 1:17:11.560 --> 1:17:13.799 waste a lot of time. We like cut to essentially 1:17:13.880 --> 1:17:16.559 like a ted talk thing that Dr Elliott's doing at Berkeley. 1:17:16.920 --> 1:17:19.280 He's talking about language, he's talking about sign language, he's 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:22.479 talking about virtual reality technology, and then he cuts to 1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:25.200 the real meat of everything. They have created a real 1:17:25.280 --> 1:17:30.120 time sign language audible translator with power glove that allows 1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:35.400 sign language literate animals like Amy allow them to to 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:37.960 actually speak out loud. She wears a little power glove, 1:17:38.240 --> 1:17:41.719 she does the signs, and this enables her to speak 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:44.960 and say things like Amy good, gorilla. And this is 1:17:45.040 --> 1:17:48.160 one of my very favorite parts, because I mean, this 1:17:48.479 --> 1:17:51.599 is when it in one way really goes off the rails, 1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:54.680 at least when I was watching it. Um, but it 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:59.360 has the funniest see it's like the funniest cut to 1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:02.479 the audience seeing I've ever I think I've ever witnessed, 1:18:02.720 --> 1:18:05.080 because people are watching. He's talking. Yeah, he's talking about 1:18:05.120 --> 1:18:07.439 virtual reality. He's talking about all of this, like really 1:18:07.520 --> 1:18:12.880 high tech stuff. And then he calls out Amy, and people, 1:18:13.040 --> 1:18:16.240 you know, turn and gasp and they see this gorilla 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:18.880 coming down the aisle. It's just like you know, where 1:18:18.880 --> 1:18:20.400 you would go to see a talk out of college 1:18:20.479 --> 1:18:24.040 or something. And Amy comes up and there's this guy 1:18:24.120 --> 1:18:25.880 and I don't know the actor's name, but he's kind 1:18:25.880 --> 1:18:29.599 of like bored flipping through the pamphlet and he looks 1:18:29.720 --> 1:18:33.040 up and then Amy says, yeah, you know, Amy good, Gorilla, 1:18:33.200 --> 1:18:37.560 Amy good, gorilla um and he kind of like is 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:41.800 staring ahead in horror and an awe, and he says 1:18:42.120 --> 1:18:47.960 that gorilla he's talking. It's so funny. It's such a 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:50.280 great stand in for the audience, Like it really is 1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:54.040 because you're like having a similar reaction. But I love 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:58.879 the cut back to him of what this grillast talking? 1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:03.600 And then we also cut to Homolka there played by 1:19:03.720 --> 1:19:07.160 jun Ury. He's in the audience and he's watching creepily 1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:09.960 and he has a ring with this kind of like 1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:13.519 eye on it, and we suddenly get this very mid 1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:18.439 nineties flash. Then of suddenly there's like scenes from Amy's dreams, 1:19:18.600 --> 1:19:21.120 something with a jungle and a flash of a gray 1:19:21.240 --> 1:19:24.800 monster a jumping across it, and uh, we're kind of left. 1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:27.519 I was left wondering like, well, what what happened? Where 1:19:27.560 --> 1:19:29.920 did this come from? Did that happen? Because I looked 1:19:29.960 --> 1:19:35.200 into the ring? Is was that in in yeah that 1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:37.720 I'm not cursed? Is that in his mind? Where is 1:19:37.760 --> 1:19:41.400 this Amy's dreams? But then we we we cut we 1:19:41.479 --> 1:19:44.439 cut ahead and we basically find out that well, she 1:19:44.600 --> 1:19:47.240 she doesn't seem to be sleeping. Well, Peter is worried 1:19:47.280 --> 1:19:50.240 that she's deteriorating mentally because she's not in the jungle. 1:19:50.320 --> 1:19:52.360 She needs to be in the jungle. He meets with 1:19:52.439 --> 1:19:55.240 the Dane and he's like, we need to raise a 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:58.000 bunch of money to send our star talking gorilla back 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:00.600 to the jungle. And the Dean's like, nobody's going to 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:02.840 pay for that. Yes, which I am of two minds about. 1:20:03.000 --> 1:20:06.120 I think I can see. But you know, also these 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:08.360 he believes these paintings are from the jungle, Like, this 1:20:08.479 --> 1:20:14.959 is what she's been doing, but inter Herkima Harmolka former Romanian, 1:20:15.080 --> 1:20:17.920 traveling around the world and doing good. And guess what, 1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:19.280 I've got a lot of money, and I want to 1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:23.960 fund your trip to take this guerrilla back to the jungle. Yeah, 1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:26.560 He's like, I have no alter your motive. I just 1:20:26.680 --> 1:20:30.840 want to see Amy return to jungle. Yes, just sounds 1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:35.839 like really likely. He's basically doing a Abella Lagosi Dracula 1:20:36.160 --> 1:20:41.240 character here. It's even more that than it is. Peter lore. Yes, 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:45.320 and the accent is so immediately you can't think of 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:50.000 anything else. Um, and I love like for the audience, 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:51.880 at least you've gotten all these hints that he's up 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:53.720 to no good or he's got an ulterior amotive, as 1:20:53.720 --> 1:20:57.120 you said. But it cuts to immediately from that scene 1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:01.960 to Dr Elliott being like, yes, his name's herker Mohamolka, 1:21:02.000 --> 1:21:07.679 I don't see the problem. He's gonna fund I trust everyone. Yeah, yes, 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:10.200 I love it. I love it. He's just like, yeah, 1:21:10.280 --> 1:21:12.920 I don't see any reason why we need to wonder 1:21:13.040 --> 1:21:17.000 about this anymore. And of course Amy's on board. Yes, 1:21:17.160 --> 1:21:19.640 we get Amy into three D glasses. Yeah, yeah, a 1:21:19.720 --> 1:21:22.160 sweet scene where they're they were in their three D 1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:24.400 glasses looking at a book. So another scene with a 1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:27.080 lot of childlike wonder for Amy. M hmm. This is 1:21:27.120 --> 1:21:30.280 when she asked to be tickled the first time. I think, oh, yes, yes. 1:21:32.360 --> 1:21:33.960 And so at this point it seems like, okay, the 1:21:34.040 --> 1:21:36.520 expedition is ready to go. They get to the airport, 1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:39.960 Kumulka is like, everything seems good. That seems like they're 1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:42.719 loading the plane. But then oh they're unloading the plane. 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:46.600 Uh and uh, so there's a scene out there on 1:21:46.680 --> 1:21:50.679 the tarmac on the the the crates. Everyone's a little stressed. 1:21:50.720 --> 1:21:52.439 Amy just wants to be tickled. She doesn't know what's 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:56.240 going on. But then Dr Ross walks up and she's like, hey, 1:21:56.520 --> 1:21:58.800 let let my company pay for some of your trip 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:01.639 and just let me bring my team along. Yeah. Basically 1:22:01.720 --> 1:22:05.439 they need like she needs almost like a visa. She 1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:07.519 needs a reason why she's going. She has to join 1:22:07.600 --> 1:22:11.720 their expedition um to get in because I guess if 1:22:11.800 --> 1:22:14.320 they report what's happened like that, they're not going to 1:22:14.400 --> 1:22:18.160 be able to get across the border to investigate what happened. Um. 1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:20.760 So she's trying very very hard, has been for a 1:22:20.840 --> 1:22:23.600 long time. This is where I get my line that 1:22:23.600 --> 1:22:26.439 I said earlier. I'm a prematologist, not a pound of sugar. 1:22:27.200 --> 1:22:32.120 Uh uh. We also see the beginnings of Amy being 1:22:32.240 --> 1:22:37.200 jealous of Dr Russ because Peter Um, it's like, oh, 1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:40.839 it's not me, it's Amy. You can't come because Amy 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:44.840 doesn't like you. But yeah, they start unloading stuff off 1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:49.400 the plane and her malcha, I love this. He's he's 1:22:49.479 --> 1:22:52.040 what does he say? There's been an interruption in my 1:22:52.240 --> 1:22:57.240 cash flow or something? And then Dr Ross knows like, oh, 1:22:57.439 --> 1:23:00.080 I got you, you need me. He can't pay for 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:02.760 the fuel for the plane, but her company certainly can. 1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:05.880 And so basically we cut to everyone's on board the 1:23:05.960 --> 1:23:08.840 plane flying to Africa, and this is where we have 1:23:08.920 --> 1:23:12.360 that wonderful scene where we get some some some scenes 1:23:12.400 --> 1:23:15.840 where Amy is upset with Karen and Um and the 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:18.519 primatologist and Karen have a nice back and forth about 1:23:18.600 --> 1:23:20.800 like why what is the trip is about? And what 1:23:21.040 --> 1:23:23.400 is what? What is the human relationship to animals and 1:23:23.479 --> 1:23:25.960 so forth. Yeah, because she's very curious and can't quite 1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:28.960 pin down why he did it, and he kind of 1:23:29.040 --> 1:23:32.360 gives like why did he train Amy to be able 1:23:32.400 --> 1:23:36.800 to speak essentially? Um? And he he says some he 1:23:36.840 --> 1:23:38.760 gives her some quotes about you know, the face of 1:23:38.800 --> 1:23:41.080 the teacher and like why not and all this kind 1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:43.280 of stuff. But this is also when we get the 1:23:43.320 --> 1:23:46.400 infamous and I dare you to find any review who 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:51.840 doesn't mention it. Um seen where Amy is a nervous flyer. Yeah, 1:23:52.040 --> 1:23:55.479 she wants her rain drop juice. Yes, And it turns 1:23:55.560 --> 1:24:00.639 out that rain drop juice is a martini. Yeah. Yes, 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:05.720 so we get a scene in a film or a 1:24:05.880 --> 1:24:10.639 gorilla is drinking a martini and looks very happy about it. Yeah, 1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:14.080 and a totally totally believable scene too. I mean that's 1:24:14.080 --> 1:24:17.120 wide from the ridiculousness of it, Like you buy Amy 1:24:17.360 --> 1:24:21.040 the talking gorilla as a real individual who just likes 1:24:21.080 --> 1:24:25.639 a nice drink to take the edge off during a flight. Well, yeah, 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:28.720 of course. And I mean she she had been tent 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:32.120 because she had also just thrown an egg at Karen. 1:24:34.240 --> 1:24:36.599 She's and you called her an ugly woman, and yeah, 1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:38.479 an egg at her. So then things are off to 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:41.320 a rocky start between Karen and Amy. Yes, and this 1:24:41.479 --> 1:24:44.080 is also when like that they have a discussion around 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:46.439 the myth of the killer ape and like King Kong 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:50.840 all of that stuff. Um so kind of you can 1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:55.839 see Hermolka starting to show his hand that he's interested 1:24:55.920 --> 1:24:59.320 in this, like he's got he's got more than he's 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:02.599 letting on, uh, and what he wants to get out 1:25:02.640 --> 1:25:05.360 of this trip. Now I'm gonna, I guess try and 1:25:05.880 --> 1:25:08.519 skip some of what happened. Like basically, they land in 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:11.519 in Africa, they land in one country, they need to 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:14.880 go into another country, but already things are in a 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:20.840 destabilized state. Here we meet Joe Pantoliano's character Eddie Ventro. 1:25:21.040 --> 1:25:23.720 He's immediately like, hey, can I buy that ape off 1:25:23.800 --> 1:25:27.400 you and their soldiers running around. Something blows up on 1:25:27.439 --> 1:25:30.080 the airfield in the back in the in the background, 1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:33.320 and and Elliot's like asking around for the guy that 1:25:33.400 --> 1:25:35.479 they hired, but that guy is nowhere to be seen 1:25:35.720 --> 1:25:38.519 because no, it looks like Big Media has paid for 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:42.599 the best guide available, and that is Captain Monroe Kelly. 1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:45.920 And he's up and he's you know, he's suave. Uh. 1:25:46.320 --> 1:25:48.519 You know, he's very laid back about everything, but he 1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:51.479 basically saves all of them and he's working on getting 1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:53.679 them where he needs to go. He's he's all action 1:25:53.760 --> 1:25:56.000 and solutions. He piles everybody in the back of a 1:25:56.080 --> 1:25:59.280 military truck and they're on their way out. Yes. Um. 1:26:00.200 --> 1:26:02.479 And one of my favorite things about this scene is 1:26:02.560 --> 1:26:04.760 we get two instances of seeing people being I guess 1:26:04.800 --> 1:26:07.360 totally on board and completely okay with the talking gorilla. 1:26:07.439 --> 1:26:12.840 But when Amy talks, uh, Captain Monroe is just like, yeah, sure, 1:26:13.439 --> 1:26:16.519 here's a smoke. Amy, like, I guess that's what you want. 1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:20.479 But he immediately takes control of the situation and it 1:26:20.479 --> 1:26:25.000 seems to immediately clock like one Hermolka is no good. 1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:27.720 He's one of the characters that's like, oh, I remember you, 1:26:28.320 --> 1:26:31.519 And then two that Karen is very competent and like 1:26:31.640 --> 1:26:34.960 that they will beat working together to kind of lead 1:26:35.080 --> 1:26:38.479 this expedition. But also I guess three that everybody's in 1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:41.920 there for a different reason, and nobody's being completely honest 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:46.559 except for maybe Peter, right, like even um, even Captain 1:26:46.640 --> 1:26:49.479 Kelly here is is being uh, he's kind of it's 1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:51.840 he's a little uncertain as well, like you don't distrust him, 1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:54.120 but there's that part. Well, one of the characters ask him, 1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:55.760 are you some kind of criminal? And he just says, 1:26:55.800 --> 1:26:59.559 aren't we all? And it's just another great Captain Monroe 1:26:59.640 --> 1:27:04.080 Kelly moment that we get some It sounds like Kelly 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:07.479 is perhaps also an armstealer. We're not entirely sure I 1:27:07.520 --> 1:27:10.880 guess what he's he's involved in, but it also seems 1:27:10.920 --> 1:27:13.560 like he's the best, most expensive hope for them. He 1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:17.000 was hired by the tech company. But they don't get 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:19.400 very far before the military stops them and like arrest 1:27:19.560 --> 1:27:22.280 everybody and says, look, nobody can go to zi Ere, 1:27:22.680 --> 1:27:24.560 So you're all stuck in this hotel here. And this 1:27:24.680 --> 1:27:27.880 is where we get Captain Wanta played by Delroy Lindo 1:27:28.000 --> 1:27:32.160 show he shows up and people were interrogated, and he 1:27:32.320 --> 1:27:34.919 does not seem to have good intentions and almost immediately 1:27:35.000 --> 1:27:39.320 hits them up for a massive bribe. Yes, and he 1:27:39.560 --> 1:27:42.519 receives it. Uh. And this is when we get the 1:27:42.640 --> 1:27:48.080 infamous stop eating my sesame cake line twice because Tim 1:27:48.160 --> 1:27:53.240 Curry is back there kind of nervously nibbling the sesame 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:56.400 cake and when he sees the money, like his mouth 1:27:56.640 --> 1:27:59.200 drops open. Like his expressions during this whole scene, he 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:03.360 was just like a befuddled, terrified, out of his league 1:28:04.000 --> 1:28:09.680 villain who gets called out by del Roy Lindo was like, oh, 1:28:10.560 --> 1:28:12.920 this piece of trash, Like we don't work with him. 1:28:12.960 --> 1:28:17.920 He's terrible. Um. And it's just one of those things 1:28:18.040 --> 1:28:20.200 where you're watching it, you're like, wow, I mean, these 1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:22.439 performances are amazing, but how in the world that this 1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:29.080 get makes? So Captain Wantons up for this bribe and um, 1:28:29.200 --> 1:28:31.680 and Karen pays it like she basically has just an 1:28:31.800 --> 1:28:34.360 enormous amount of cash on her. There's this nice scene 1:28:34.360 --> 1:28:38.240 where Captain Wantas and stapling the brown sack that he 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:41.120 put the money into shut and he tells them that 1:28:41.240 --> 1:28:42.880 it's the gorilla that's going to get them across the 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:46.040 border because no one wants to be seen in Western 1:28:46.160 --> 1:28:49.320 media being cruel to the gorilla. And so it looks 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:52.160 like they're going to get to continue. Yes, yes, yes, 1:28:52.320 --> 1:28:56.680 so this is this brings us to like another plane trip. UM. 1:28:57.400 --> 1:29:00.800 A lot of jokes about Dr Elliot and Amy being 1:29:01.320 --> 1:29:03.120 a husband and wife, which I think we've already had 1:29:03.160 --> 1:29:06.720 some of those two but people witnessing their interactions um. 1:29:08.200 --> 1:29:13.800 And some of the funniest, least believable parts of the 1:29:13.840 --> 1:29:18.799 movie I think take place in this section. UM, because 1:29:19.080 --> 1:29:21.120 they get shot at while they're in a plane. In 1:29:21.200 --> 1:29:25.800 this plane after Amy has been fed some kind of 1:29:25.920 --> 1:29:28.960 drug in a banana uh to calm her down, by 1:29:29.000 --> 1:29:34.120 the way, and Laura, Lenny badass that she is, gets 1:29:34.160 --> 1:29:39.080 a flare gun, kicks open the door to the airplane 1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:44.240 and uses the flairgun too, I guess, distract to send 1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:46.720 the heat seeking missiles that way, which I don't think 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:53.559 is how it works. But it's quickly joined by Monroe. 1:29:53.640 --> 1:29:55.400 Kelly is like, yeah, this is a good idea. We're 1:29:55.439 --> 1:29:58.240 gonna help you. It's a really cool, like bad sn 1:29:58.320 --> 1:30:03.639 I just questioned to see that's how it works. Yeah, 1:30:03.720 --> 1:30:06.559 so they yeah, they fire off these flares. They're able 1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:10.439 to redirect the heat seeking ground to hair missiles that 1:30:10.479 --> 1:30:13.760 are being fired at them by the military. But it 1:30:13.840 --> 1:30:15.519 looks like the plane has been hit. Everyone's gonna have 1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:18.960 to parachute anyway. Uh. So we get some shenanigans here 1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:21.840 where um Homolka of course is cowardly and has to 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:25.360 be booted out of the plane. Um Monroe Kelly, he 1:30:25.640 --> 1:30:28.439 grabs a drug. Damy Amy has been given the I 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:30.280 think they later refer to it as the banana with 1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:32.920 the dope in it, so she has she's already had 1:30:32.920 --> 1:30:36.040 her dope banana. So he scoops her up and jumps out. 1:30:36.520 --> 1:30:39.840 Gear is being dropped as well, and uh yeah. Then 1:30:39.960 --> 1:30:43.000 we're in the jungle proper at this point, and I 1:30:43.080 --> 1:30:45.240 think this is when we start getting answers about what 1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:47.599 some of the characters are up to. So we're here 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:51.040 a little bit about you know, the city of Solomon, 1:30:51.080 --> 1:30:54.760 the ls city of Zinge. Monroe Kelly reveals he has 1:30:54.800 --> 1:30:57.960 a past history of a terrible expedition that went wrong 1:30:58.040 --> 1:31:01.720 with hermoca uh and ing about at the jungle. Um. 1:31:01.800 --> 1:31:05.559 We also learn a bit more about Laura Lenny's character 1:31:06.320 --> 1:31:08.439 Um and what she's looking for because she has this 1:31:08.560 --> 1:31:11.920 what she says, is a gadget that has features um, 1:31:13.000 --> 1:31:16.120 like you know her x CIA passed has kind of 1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:19.360 talked about. So we're getting at some of these answers, 1:31:19.479 --> 1:31:24.320 these character answers about what people are looking into. And also, 1:31:24.960 --> 1:31:26.720 I would like to point out this is when I 1:31:26.880 --> 1:31:29.680 was like, oh, this is a volcano as well, Um, 1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:34.840 good to know. Yeah, and it's it's like what you 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:37.000 bring a cannon on stage, right, you bring a volcano 1:31:37.280 --> 1:31:40.040 on into the picture. You know that volcanoes erupting at 1:31:40.080 --> 1:31:42.640 the end of the film. Yes, so, but we'll get 1:31:42.720 --> 1:31:44.760 we'll get to that part. So and they right, yeah, 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:47.720 they set up camp. The tents are gray, the a 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:50.240 C units are passed out. We already talked about that. 1:31:50.520 --> 1:31:53.920 We we get more, uh, they spill more details about 1:31:53.960 --> 1:31:56.960 the lost city of zinge U. Karen gets satellite gear 1:31:57.000 --> 1:31:59.439 set up, she checks in with Texas. They senter the 1:31:59.479 --> 1:32:01.720 creature in Elysis. They're like, we've we've done some some 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:04.559 work on the footage. It is gerrilla like but maybe 1:32:04.600 --> 1:32:06.880 not a gorilla. And oh, by the way, that volcano 1:32:06.920 --> 1:32:09.800 is probably gonna blow up. And she's like, all right, fine, 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:13.040 U we can we can handle it. But they're they're 1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:15.559 not even able to finish the call because then Amy 1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:19.720 and Elliott come racing through the camp like children. They 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:22.960 knock over the satellite gear and destroy it like it's 1:32:23.000 --> 1:32:28.599 no longer functional. Yep, uh, just destroy her equipment. Um. 1:32:30.000 --> 1:32:32.200 And this is also when the scene you mentioned when 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:35.200 we see kind of this gear kind of overkill perhaps 1:32:35.360 --> 1:32:38.679 that Karen bought with the a C in the tents 1:32:39.720 --> 1:32:42.880 um setting up with that. But yeah, now so now 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:49.080 there cut off from that, uh, and they've got to 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:51.719 check through the jungle and they've got this volcano threat 1:32:52.280 --> 1:32:56.080 looming over them and a mysterious creature that is not 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:59.880 a gorilla but close. Yeah, so we we we get 1:32:59.920 --> 1:33:01.880 a a fun scene at night where there are all 1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:05.439 these monkey sounds in the in the forest and everyone's 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:08.200 a little wigged out except for Captain Monroe Kelly U 1:33:08.360 --> 1:33:10.360 and he has some some fun lines there. But then 1:33:10.400 --> 1:33:13.599 it rains, it mud slides. There's a ridiculous scene where 1:33:13.640 --> 1:33:16.240 somebody sees a snake and their scary music and they 1:33:16.320 --> 1:33:19.040 chopped the snake with a machete, a scene that serves 1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:21.559 no purpose in the film, just to say that, like, oh, 1:33:21.640 --> 1:33:24.200 when they're also snakes, but don't worry, they don't factor 1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:26.600 into the plot, right. And this is also where we 1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:31.200 get um the leach. The leach scene on the penis. 1:33:31.920 --> 1:33:34.040 This is kind of like a montage of all of 1:33:34.080 --> 1:33:37.960 the stuff, the terrain and environment they're having to deal with. 1:33:38.560 --> 1:33:43.240 Um inexplicable singing scene where they all start singing is 1:33:43.240 --> 1:33:47.479 also in this kind of section well, California Dreaming. Also 1:33:48.520 --> 1:33:51.920 we also get members of a native tribe show up, 1:33:52.080 --> 1:33:55.280 the Ghost tribe they described them as, and they're like, hey, 1:33:55.760 --> 1:33:59.840 they they're Dr Monroquell, Captain Monroe. Kelly can speak there, 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:01.880 which so he speaks with them and he's like, hey, 1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:04.320 they have a they have a dead man or a 1:34:04.439 --> 1:34:07.519 nearly dead man, uh, and they want us to see 1:34:07.640 --> 1:34:10.280 him they have he has this TC symbol on his clothing. 1:34:10.800 --> 1:34:13.560 Karen quickly realizes, well, that's my company. We need to 1:34:13.600 --> 1:34:16.920 see what this is all about. And they check in 1:34:17.040 --> 1:34:19.760 on this kind of like a tribal ceremony that's some 1:34:19.840 --> 1:34:22.559 sort of a funeral ride. Uh. It seems like it's 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:25.840 maybe patterned after a scene from Baraka. I'm not sure 1:34:25.920 --> 1:34:28.320 on that, but it's a it's it's impressive to watch 1:34:28.560 --> 1:34:30.640 and then they realize, Okay, is this man Charles, No, 1:34:30.800 --> 1:34:33.560 it's not. It's Bob someone else from that group. He 1:34:33.680 --> 1:34:37.280 wakes up, he sees Amy the gorilla and immediately just 1:34:37.400 --> 1:34:40.840 freaks out to death, which is classic classic scene if 1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:42.920 you know, being scared to death of something. I do 1:34:43.080 --> 1:34:45.759 think this is one scene um that did a disservice 1:34:45.880 --> 1:34:48.560 to the like payoff. And I know they wanted the 1:34:48.640 --> 1:34:51.000 final product to be really scary, but they just weren't 1:34:51.080 --> 1:34:53.759 that scary. So like the fact that he sees aiming, 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:56.760 it's like it just really it was like it built 1:34:56.800 --> 1:34:58.439 it up and you're like, oh my gosh, this must 1:34:58.439 --> 1:35:01.840 be terrifying. It killed him, scared him to dive. Um, 1:35:02.560 --> 1:35:05.479 I mean it was really it was effective. It served 1:35:05.479 --> 1:35:10.120 a lot in terms of building your fear and anxiety 1:35:10.200 --> 1:35:13.600 around whatever it is they're going to eventually face, so 1:35:13.680 --> 1:35:15.400 they keep going. They're not going to be deterred by this. 1:35:15.680 --> 1:35:20.280 They're more zind revelations, King Solomon's legendary Diamond Mind and 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:23.439 the congo others have saught it. None have come back, 1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:27.560 and Homolka insisted Amy knows where the city is the 1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:30.559 open eye symbol. She saw it in her dream. Um. 1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:34.240 So they keep going and eventually they're traveling by boat 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:38.200 at night and this is like straight up Disney Jungle 1:35:38.280 --> 1:35:42.400 cruise adventure here, but we get a terrifying hippo attack 1:35:42.439 --> 1:35:45.280 where the hippos are attacking the boat and then a 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:48.559 plane is shot down in the night. It crashes, uh, 1:35:48.600 --> 1:35:50.760 and they're like, well, I don't know what that's about. 1:35:50.880 --> 1:35:54.400 That's that's bad. They reached the volcano. Uh, the two 1:35:54.520 --> 1:35:58.040 porters of Runaway. Amy wants her glove and at this 1:35:58.080 --> 1:36:01.799 point navigation is becoming difficult, like her little multipurpose device 1:36:01.880 --> 1:36:05.040 isn't really working, and Homolka says, well, we should let 1:36:05.280 --> 1:36:09.240 Amy lead us. Let Amy leave the the expedition, and 1:36:09.320 --> 1:36:11.720 everyone's like, you know, he's right, we should let Amy leave. 1:36:12.920 --> 1:36:16.000 That's gorilla knows where it is. I love that line 1:36:16.040 --> 1:36:19.400 so much. Uh yeah, so they're all like, yeah, let's follow, 1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:23.479 let's follow Amy. Um. And this leads us to another 1:36:23.520 --> 1:36:25.479 one of my very favorite scenes. This is when they 1:36:25.600 --> 1:36:29.519 meet a big silverback gorilla. Uh. And this is after 1:36:29.600 --> 1:36:31.840 they kind of transverse what seems to be straight up 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:34.160 a volcano. I don't know that their path makes a 1:36:34.200 --> 1:36:38.280 lot of sense, but anyway, they meet this big silverback gorilla. Uh. 1:36:38.640 --> 1:36:42.360 Monroe tells Peter like, don't run. Gorilla sees it as 1:36:42.400 --> 1:36:45.960 a challenge, um, and then yes, he doesn't run. The 1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:49.479 gorilla backs away, and that's when Monroe realized, like, oh 1:36:49.640 --> 1:36:53.040 he did run away, And then I love this. Amy 1:36:53.080 --> 1:36:55.360 tries to communicate with the gorillas and they look at 1:36:55.400 --> 1:36:59.120 her and they're like nah, and they walk away. But 1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:02.040 it's sad. You watch it, You're like, oh, he was 1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:05.120 trying to communicate with realis and she can't because she's 1:37:05.160 --> 1:37:08.160 been drained in this new system and it's it's um, 1:37:08.439 --> 1:37:10.920 it's sad. So we're holding out hope. We feel if 1:37:10.960 --> 1:37:12.760 you feel like, she'll probably get another shot at this. 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:26.759 So they press on and she comes. As no surprise, 1:37:26.880 --> 1:37:29.320 they do find the lost city of Zinge. We see 1:37:29.360 --> 1:37:33.519 this fabulous looking, ruinous lost city with a big We 1:37:33.840 --> 1:37:37.280 see this like this head statue with these big eyes, 1:37:37.680 --> 1:37:40.880 and Homolka is just in tears. Uh. The eye on 1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:44.720 his ring matches the great statue, these amber eyes, and 1:37:44.840 --> 1:37:48.000 we get some just wonderful scene showing by Tim Curry here. Yeah, 1:37:48.000 --> 1:37:50.439 because even he really does have an emotional moment and 1:37:50.560 --> 1:37:54.000 for all the cowardice he has um and I'm this 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:56.640 is very telling of his character because he's still a 1:37:56.720 --> 1:38:00.840 huge coward. But he says I must go because he 1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:02.719 wants to go in. He wants to find these diamonds. 1:38:03.040 --> 1:38:07.120 Um And Uh, it's just like the culmination of everything 1:38:07.160 --> 1:38:10.120 he's been talking about. And he does have a line 1:38:10.120 --> 1:38:11.840 where I'm kind of like, I don't believe this at all, 1:38:11.880 --> 1:38:14.920 but he says, uh, he we can all share, we 1:38:15.000 --> 1:38:17.760 can all share the loops of the diamonds if we 1:38:17.880 --> 1:38:22.880 go in. So at this point we are here in 1:38:22.920 --> 1:38:25.800 the last city of Zinj. Obviously we have reached the 1:38:26.200 --> 1:38:29.559 final portion of the film, last thirty minutes of the film. Uh, 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:33.240 and everything is about to just get really wild. Uh. 1:38:33.800 --> 1:38:36.320 So for starters, the guns are out now. Kelling his 1:38:36.439 --> 1:38:40.120 team are inspecting everything. They're they're wisely on guard because 1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:43.160 they realize some serious violence has gone down around here 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:47.200 and they don't entirely know what's behind it. And Homolka 1:38:47.600 --> 1:38:52.160 tells them this story about the establishment of Solomon's mine 1:38:52.360 --> 1:38:55.720 here and the city around it, about how the savageness 1:38:55.760 --> 1:38:57.880 of the guards was famous, and then about how this 1:38:58.320 --> 1:39:01.000 it fell into ruin. But they perhap pressed and they're like, well, 1:39:01.000 --> 1:39:03.680 why did it fall into ruin? He's like, nobody knows. Uh. 1:39:04.080 --> 1:39:06.200 But they're like, okay, let's go in and explore. So 1:39:06.280 --> 1:39:10.080 we're in full blown Ruin exploration mode. And some of 1:39:10.160 --> 1:39:14.400 these scenes are effectively creepy, like the lighting is just right. Uh. 1:39:14.720 --> 1:39:16.599 You know, it's the typical shots you have in films 1:39:16.640 --> 1:39:21.280 like this, people pointing their flashlights at at hieroglyphics and 1:39:21.720 --> 1:39:25.880 checking out hallways and uh. And you're just expecting something 1:39:25.920 --> 1:39:29.160 to jump out at any moment. Yes, And it's that's 1:39:29.240 --> 1:39:32.040 built by the fact that Amy was not feeling it. 1:39:32.680 --> 1:39:35.320 She did not want to come in. Uh, So some 1:39:35.479 --> 1:39:38.679 of them, some of the members of the group stayed outside. 1:39:38.720 --> 1:39:44.360 Amy stayed outside. Um. And then there are these hieroglyphics 1:39:44.439 --> 1:39:50.160 on the wall that Dr Elliott translates, and again it 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:55.519 basically boils down to they trained these guerrillas to guard 1:39:55.640 --> 1:40:00.120 the minds on a volcano whose activity is getting were 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:03.519 intense by the way, uh, to guard the diamonds. And 1:40:03.600 --> 1:40:06.880 then the gorillas turned on the people there. And I 1:40:06.920 --> 1:40:11.000 guess I've just been living there guarding the diamonds, getting 1:40:11.960 --> 1:40:17.080 more and more violent. Yeah, and perhaps uh, like in 1:40:17.280 --> 1:40:20.439 bread like it's a very small population. Every time we 1:40:20.560 --> 1:40:24.160 see the great gorillas like they do look diseased. And 1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:26.719 I don't know how much of this is like seriously 1:40:26.800 --> 1:40:28.719 trying to figure out, like what is the like genetic 1:40:28.800 --> 1:40:32.360 decline of a small population of primates gonna look like? 1:40:32.640 --> 1:40:35.400 And then how much of it is like notes coming 1:40:35.479 --> 1:40:38.040 back or the or from the stiff from the studio 1:40:38.320 --> 1:40:40.639 or just the effects team looking at it, like, well, 1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:43.800 how scary can we make these guerrillas? Uh? And you 1:40:43.880 --> 1:40:45.400 look at when you look at them, like the sort 1:40:45.400 --> 1:40:47.960 of freeze frame of the of the grays that they look. 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:50.120 They look very frightening. They did a great job making 1:40:50.240 --> 1:40:54.240 monsters guerrillas. It's just when it comes to actually seeing 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:57.679 them moving around, I don't know. I think it probably 1:40:57.680 --> 1:40:59.439 does come back to the lighting and just some of 1:40:59.560 --> 1:41:03.760 the um you know that perhaps you can imagine these 1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:08.479 costumes being better utilized. I don't know, Yes, absolutely, And 1:41:08.520 --> 1:41:10.559 then and there they were trying to do a lot 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:14.760 of things, um I will say in this movie with 1:41:15.120 --> 1:41:19.360 special effects and technology. And one of the most bizarre 1:41:19.800 --> 1:41:24.679 and jarring ones is in this section. Because so Richard 1:41:24.760 --> 1:41:28.560 had stayed outside with Amy and then he runs in 1:41:28.720 --> 1:41:39.000 screaming ah, and is killed by this big, angry killer gorilla. UM, 1:41:39.840 --> 1:41:44.320 and the group you know, tries to shoot at this 1:41:44.400 --> 1:41:50.920 gorilla and it's like inexplicable stop motion camera work, like 1:41:51.120 --> 1:41:54.200 it's out of nowhere. They don't do it again. Um. 1:41:55.160 --> 1:41:57.560 It just felt like, oh, let's let's experiment with this, 1:41:58.200 --> 1:42:00.240 and I do again. I go. That makes me wonder 1:42:00.320 --> 1:42:02.439 how much of it was, Oh, this is a new 1:42:02.600 --> 1:42:04.240 technology we can try, but also how much of it 1:42:04.439 --> 1:42:07.880 was Uh, these costumes aren't working out like we thought 1:42:08.080 --> 1:42:10.760 or like maybe or at least the resulting footage was 1:42:10.880 --> 1:42:13.120 not as scary as we thought it might be. What 1:42:13.280 --> 1:42:15.360 can we do, Let's tinker with it until we have 1:42:15.560 --> 1:42:20.200 something that that creates more of an emotional response. Yes, absolutely, 1:42:20.400 --> 1:42:22.640 I feel like that's another thing every review mentions is 1:42:22.720 --> 1:42:26.960 that like where did that come from? Yeah? But at 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:29.479 this point, like everybody's basically in the mode of like, Okay, 1:42:29.479 --> 1:42:30.960 I guess we need to get out of here because 1:42:31.000 --> 1:42:33.559 gorillas are attacking us. Amy shows up for a nice 1:42:33.600 --> 1:42:37.200 jump scare. Um, one great gorilla has been taken down, 1:42:37.280 --> 1:42:39.720 but there are more. They leave the ruins, they find 1:42:39.800 --> 1:42:44.120 more bodies. Um. Homolka thinks this is why the minds 1:42:44.200 --> 1:42:47.000 had to close down in ancient times. I guess makes sense. 1:42:47.080 --> 1:42:50.240 Killer guerrillas. So they go back to camp and it's 1:42:50.280 --> 1:42:53.400 tech time because Amy gloves up and start talking about 1:42:53.400 --> 1:42:56.080 the bad guerrillas. And then in one of the I 1:42:56.320 --> 1:42:58.320 can't even honestly remember if this was in the book 1:42:58.400 --> 1:43:00.360 or not. I think it might have been, but at 1:43:00.400 --> 1:43:04.160 this point, the team, uh, Karen and or the team remember, 1:43:04.200 --> 1:43:07.120 oh yeah, amid the gear that we have, we have 1:43:07.360 --> 1:43:10.880 automated machine gun drones that we can set up. They 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:14.439 use lasers to detect movement and we'll fire at anything. 1:43:15.439 --> 1:43:18.400 And they set this up around the perimeter of the camp. 1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:23.240 And I I remember loving this in the film and 1:43:23.320 --> 1:43:25.120 perhaps in the book if it was in the book 1:43:25.640 --> 1:43:28.080 when I was younger, but especially now, you like, this 1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:31.479 is just so ridiculous. This is just ludicrous that they 1:43:31.600 --> 1:43:35.840 brought automated machine gun Like what was the original like 1:43:36.040 --> 1:43:38.640 rationale behind this was it just rilla killer gorillas may 1:43:38.680 --> 1:43:41.160 show up in the hundreds, we will need machine gun 1:43:41.280 --> 1:43:44.400 drones because otherwise it's, like you were, these are like 1:43:44.479 --> 1:43:48.479 weapons of war you're bringing into this other country, right, 1:43:48.560 --> 1:43:52.280 and people could have shown up like anything that happened. Um, 1:43:53.439 --> 1:43:56.519 and they also have so Laura Lenny as cool as 1:43:56.560 --> 1:43:58.920 a cucumber during this part, by the way, and they 1:43:59.000 --> 1:44:02.120 set up a uptop an old laptop and she can 1:44:02.200 --> 1:44:04.720 like see their shapes on it, like see where they 1:44:04.760 --> 1:44:07.000 are and how many of them are. But it I 1:44:07.080 --> 1:44:11.080 mean again, I think the lighting didn't really work in 1:44:11.120 --> 1:44:13.439 the scene. But it could have been really scary because 1:44:13.560 --> 1:44:16.160 you you would just see like the guns turn shoot 1:44:16.200 --> 1:44:19.280 at something. The lasers were kind of goofy, but like 1:44:19.400 --> 1:44:22.320 the seeing that this turn and you couldn't really necessarily 1:44:22.880 --> 1:44:26.160 see where the the gorillas were, but they were all around. 1:44:26.400 --> 1:44:31.479 Like it ended up feeling very um humorous and over 1:44:31.560 --> 1:44:33.799 the top where I think it could have been scary. 1:44:34.200 --> 1:44:37.599 I'm not sure that this movie ever succeeds really at 1:44:37.640 --> 1:44:41.080 being scary. I think it's much more fun action romps. 1:44:41.120 --> 1:44:43.000 So I don't know that it would have worked anyway 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:48.639 given the rest of what we've seen already. But um, yeah, 1:44:48.720 --> 1:44:53.280 it's like fireworks and lasers, guns and killer apes. It 1:44:53.400 --> 1:44:55.559 feels kind of like like this is Congo the ride, 1:44:56.680 --> 1:44:58.760 which isn't too much of a knock because what is 1:44:58.800 --> 1:45:01.000 a blockbuster film? Like, it's kind of like the approach 1:45:01.080 --> 1:45:04.679 to a big like Disneyland ride or a Blockbuster film. 1:45:04.720 --> 1:45:06.920 It's kind of the same energy, so I guess it's 1:45:06.960 --> 1:45:09.840 fine that they feel it feels much the same here. Yes, 1:45:09.920 --> 1:45:14.280 and then it's buttoned with Hermolka saying I've translated this 1:45:14.479 --> 1:45:18.360 phrase and it says we are watching you. So it's 1:45:18.400 --> 1:45:21.639 kind of just like goofy action set piece and then 1:45:22.439 --> 1:45:29.240 oh wait, go back to scary stuff. Yeah. So the 1:45:29.360 --> 1:45:33.559 next morning, people are missing, including Amy and Homolka. Amy's 1:45:33.600 --> 1:45:37.160 out wandering. She encounters the other guerrillas again. They acknowledge 1:45:37.160 --> 1:45:40.320 her this time, but they're they're standoffish, so it seems 1:45:40.360 --> 1:45:46.839 like some progress is being made in in Amy guerilla relations. Meanwhile, 1:45:46.880 --> 1:45:48.880 the team heads back into the ruins and they had 1:45:48.920 --> 1:45:50.640 just armed to the teeth. They had just they're just 1:45:50.680 --> 1:45:54.599 bringing all the guns this time, and they find evidence 1:45:54.680 --> 1:45:57.360 on the walls. They find more not higher glyphics this time, 1:45:57.400 --> 1:46:00.519 but more like actual um uh image is that are 1:46:00.760 --> 1:46:04.280 like sequential art, and it seems that they the guerrillas 1:46:04.320 --> 1:46:09.160 were bred using guerrillas and humans apparently uh and to 1:46:09.240 --> 1:46:11.960 serve as guardians for the minds, but they eventually turned 1:46:11.960 --> 1:46:14.639 on their masters and they find the bones of normal 1:46:14.760 --> 1:46:19.840 guerrillas with crushed skulls. Yes, quite a few. Um. And 1:46:19.920 --> 1:46:24.000 this is when we see Amy, who's like the volcano. 1:46:24.280 --> 1:46:27.160 It's shaking, it's about to go off. Um. Some of 1:46:27.200 --> 1:46:30.559 the building collapses. So Amy is determined to help our 1:46:30.640 --> 1:46:34.600 human friends to fight these bad gorillas, grabs her a 1:46:34.800 --> 1:46:38.479 s L gear and makes her way to the to 1:46:38.600 --> 1:46:41.320 the temple, to the building, and so here we are 1:46:41.439 --> 1:46:44.120 the team. Eventually they have some trouble. It seems like 1:46:44.200 --> 1:46:46.600 they're the minds may be closed off, and then of 1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:49.439 course their seismic activity and their cave ins, and so 1:46:49.560 --> 1:46:51.960 they just keep going, you know, very very dungeons and 1:46:52.040 --> 1:46:54.080 dragon z at this point like okay, we gotta we 1:46:54.120 --> 1:46:56.679 gotta keep the party moving deeper into the dungeon here, 1:46:57.080 --> 1:47:02.240 and then they emerge into well into dungeons and dragons. Wise, 1:47:02.280 --> 1:47:04.080 this would be when the dungeon minister would pull out 1:47:04.160 --> 1:47:06.680 the feature map where the big battle is going to 1:47:06.800 --> 1:47:09.880 take place. It's this is apparently the mine. It's kind 1:47:09.920 --> 1:47:12.720 of this little valley with the stream going through it. 1:47:13.520 --> 1:47:17.120 They're all these like alcoves or cave openings in the 1:47:17.240 --> 1:47:21.719 walls and the ground is just filthy with blue diamonds, 1:47:21.760 --> 1:47:23.720 like they're just poking up out of the ground, like 1:47:24.320 --> 1:47:27.320 like big diamond baseballs. Yeah, you're right, that is very 1:47:27.400 --> 1:47:30.240 d and d like look at these shiny things. I 1:47:30.320 --> 1:47:34.719 know you want them. Um, no problem here and hermoca 1:47:34.920 --> 1:47:38.719 he can't resist. He's like immediately just shoving these diamonds 1:47:38.760 --> 1:47:43.559 into his bag. Yes, oh yeah, he kisses one of them. 1:47:44.280 --> 1:47:47.240 And meanwhile, the great gorillas are starting to file out there. 1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:49.439 It is kind of creepy at first because they are 1:47:49.479 --> 1:47:52.080 in the shadows a bit, but then they're they're they're 1:47:52.080 --> 1:47:55.400 actively coming out. They're like, okay, guys, were on, this 1:47:55.560 --> 1:47:58.080 is what we were trained for. Uh, we did kill 1:47:58.120 --> 1:48:00.360 all of our trainers, but but this is Whine we 1:48:00.439 --> 1:48:04.280 live here. And so yeah, great shots of grey grillas 1:48:04.360 --> 1:48:06.559 creeping in the dark. We see some flashes of their 1:48:06.600 --> 1:48:10.760 monster faces and uh, now Homolka has gone too far. 1:48:10.840 --> 1:48:13.320 He realized it is too late, that he was too 1:48:13.360 --> 1:48:16.400 concerned with scooping up diamonds and that death is all 1:48:16.479 --> 1:48:20.479 around him now. Yeah, and he does have probably the 1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:23.439 most one of the most violent does we see on 1:48:23.600 --> 1:48:29.240 the screen. Um, because no, the the killer guerrillas are 1:48:29.280 --> 1:48:33.880 not happy about this. Uh, and they they kill him 1:48:34.080 --> 1:48:37.560 quite virarently, and this is when the rest of the 1:48:37.600 --> 1:48:40.280 party is like, oh wow, um, there are a lot 1:48:40.400 --> 1:48:43.960 of these killer gorillas. They're going to kill us all. Um, 1:48:45.200 --> 1:48:48.519 So they all start getting out their weapons. Um, they 1:48:48.600 --> 1:48:53.160 discover a geode, a giant diamond. H and they also 1:48:53.320 --> 1:48:55.160 as they're kind of running away trying to find a 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:59.000 way out, Uh, they find Karen's ex Charlie, amongst a 1:48:59.040 --> 1:49:02.240 bunch of like other bones and stuff, and she takes 1:49:02.280 --> 1:49:06.800 his satellite gun thing, puts a diamond in it. She 1:49:06.960 --> 1:49:10.360 has a laser gun. And now she has a laser gun. Yeah, 1:49:10.600 --> 1:49:14.280 so the battle the battle continues to rage. Here it's 1:49:14.600 --> 1:49:18.640 soldiers and party members versus killer greg Rilla's looks like 1:49:18.680 --> 1:49:22.280 their deaths on both sides, and um, you know, we 1:49:22.400 --> 1:49:25.680 found Charlie, and it seems like the gorillas are are 1:49:25.840 --> 1:49:28.800 gaining ground. They're they're killing left and right, and it 1:49:28.880 --> 1:49:32.320 looks like they're moving in to kill Elliott. And then 1:49:32.400 --> 1:49:35.760 Amy jumps into the rescue and she says, ugly gorillas, 1:49:35.880 --> 1:49:38.880 ugly go away. And this is a nice moment because 1:49:38.920 --> 1:49:42.519 you kind of expect when this happens, You're like, oh no, Amy, 1:49:42.600 --> 1:49:44.639 they don't know what you're saying. They're not gonna listen 1:49:44.680 --> 1:49:47.160 to you. But the greg Grillas are thrown off on this. 1:49:47.240 --> 1:49:49.360 They're like, whoa wait, this is a gorilla, guys, We've 1:49:49.360 --> 1:49:51.000 got to at least hit here out, or they're at 1:49:51.040 --> 1:49:53.040 least confused by it. And I think that's what I 1:49:53.080 --> 1:49:54.720 think it's when Roe says like, they don't know what 1:49:54.840 --> 1:49:58.480 to make. They don't know what to make. They're just confused. 1:49:59.080 --> 1:50:02.479 And here in comes one of the best lines because 1:50:03.280 --> 1:50:05.920 laure Lenny Dr Karen Raw shows up with this laser 1:50:05.960 --> 1:50:10.479 gun and she says of the like great killer apes, 1:50:10.880 --> 1:50:14.120 put them on the endangered species list, and then starts 1:50:14.240 --> 1:50:17.639 shooting them with a beam of blue laser, just like arms, 1:50:17.760 --> 1:50:23.040 flying bodies getting cut in the half um and when 1:50:23.360 --> 1:50:26.240 asked what she's using, she calls it the latest thing 1:50:26.320 --> 1:50:33.840 in communication. It's just wild and ludicrous an absurd. Uh. 1:50:34.400 --> 1:50:41.080 Just this killer gorilla is getting just decimated by a laser. Yeah, 1:50:41.240 --> 1:50:43.680 just straight up cut in half by this thing. And 1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:47.000 then we cut to the outside and the volcano is erupting, 1:50:47.400 --> 1:50:50.200 and it's it's I I think I laughed at this 1:50:50.320 --> 1:50:54.600 point because the footage or the or the sequence that 1:50:54.680 --> 1:50:57.600 we see from afar of the volcano erupting is so 1:50:57.800 --> 1:51:00.200 intense that I felt like there's no way every one 1:51:00.240 --> 1:51:02.640 would just be killed instantly by this thing. They're like 1:51:02.720 --> 1:51:06.479 inside this volcano or inside the mountain when this level 1:51:06.560 --> 1:51:09.400 of a volcanic event is taking place. But it's a 1:51:09.439 --> 1:51:11.519 movie volcano, so the rules are a little different, like 1:51:11.600 --> 1:51:14.439 lava is not actually hot unless you're in it, uh, 1:51:14.520 --> 1:51:17.360 and other rules like that apply. Yes, and I do 1:51:17.560 --> 1:51:22.400 think it is a rule uh in these action adventure movies, 1:51:22.400 --> 1:51:24.360 you've gotta have your classic Like the set is falling 1:51:24.400 --> 1:51:27.840 apart at the end, like everything is collapsing and you've 1:51:27.880 --> 1:51:29.840 got to get out. And so that's what this scene is. 1:51:29.960 --> 1:51:32.800 Is very much like you know, ground, the ground is 1:51:32.920 --> 1:51:38.479 falling pieces of like stone, all of these structures are falling. Um. 1:51:38.680 --> 1:51:42.960 We get to see another odd scene of like gorillas 1:51:43.080 --> 1:51:46.160 jumping in the lava, the killer gorillas jumping in to 1:51:46.280 --> 1:51:48.400 the lava and dying. But yeah, this is very much that, 1:51:48.520 --> 1:51:52.679 like we're in the end game now the entire set 1:51:53.479 --> 1:51:57.320 is collapsing. Yep. We also get to see they make 1:51:57.360 --> 1:51:59.719 it out of the mountain and of course the ground 1:52:00.000 --> 1:52:02.519 opens up. This is huge chasm that opens in the 1:52:02.600 --> 1:52:05.479 earth and so Karen whips out that laser gun again 1:52:05.600 --> 1:52:07.720 use it to cut down a tree to make a 1:52:07.800 --> 1:52:10.840 bridge that they all escape over. And meanwhile the city 1:52:10.880 --> 1:52:17.040 of zinj is just crumbling into ruin behind them. Yes, 1:52:17.120 --> 1:52:18.640 and this brings us to one of my very very 1:52:18.680 --> 1:52:21.840 favorite things, because I can't stress enough. They escape via 1:52:21.960 --> 1:52:26.920 hot air balloon. Um yeah, and on my uh rewatch 1:52:27.600 --> 1:52:30.320 one too many rewatches, they do hint at this hot 1:52:30.360 --> 1:52:34.840 air balloon throughout because earlier on they kind of joked 1:52:34.920 --> 1:52:36.920 with Dr Ross like, do you really need a hot 1:52:36.960 --> 1:52:41.960 air balloon and she said no, Um, well here they are. 1:52:44.120 --> 1:52:46.320 And but but before that happens, though, she does check 1:52:46.400 --> 1:52:48.960 back in with Houston though. Remember she she gets some 1:52:49.040 --> 1:52:52.040 gear off of that crash that second plane, She fixes 1:52:52.040 --> 1:52:55.600 her satellite system, calls back and uh, this is a 1:52:55.640 --> 1:52:58.719 nice little sequence where she she touches base with Travis 1:52:59.320 --> 1:53:03.720 and tells him about his son. She's like, yeah, Charles's dad, 1:53:03.880 --> 1:53:07.519 I have to confirm this. And of course does Travis 1:53:07.600 --> 1:53:09.760 say and take a moment to reflect on this, No, 1:53:09.960 --> 1:53:12.200 He's like, tell me about those diamonds. I want those 1:53:12.240 --> 1:53:16.920 blue diamonds. Yes, And I mean he doesn't even ask 1:53:16.960 --> 1:53:18.960 about the crew, because everybody on that plane was working 1:53:19.040 --> 1:53:23.200 for him. There's a line earlier where laure Lenni is like, 1:53:23.280 --> 1:53:25.240 this is such a needless loss of life. But yeah, 1:53:25.280 --> 1:53:28.280 he's IMMANI like, did you get the diamond? And she, 1:53:28.560 --> 1:53:32.639 laure Lenny, She's got a good, cold, like calculated face, 1:53:33.120 --> 1:53:36.640 is realizing this and she says, you remember what I 1:53:36.800 --> 1:53:38.800 told you. If I ever got the hint that you 1:53:38.920 --> 1:53:40.840 sent me out here for anything other than Charlie, I 1:53:40.840 --> 1:53:42.599 would make you sorry. And then she does a bunch 1:53:42.600 --> 1:53:44.839 of techno babble that doesn't make any sense. I'm convinced, 1:53:45.280 --> 1:53:48.280 but she puts it in the coordinates of the satellite 1:53:48.320 --> 1:53:53.200 into this diamond laser gun and then Presto blows up 1:53:53.600 --> 1:53:58.000 his very fancy satellite. He blows up a satellite. Yeah, 1:53:58.400 --> 1:54:04.160 yeah this yeah, And then she's like yeah in transmission 1:54:04.200 --> 1:54:06.800 obviously and uh and and moves on for then maybe 1:54:06.840 --> 1:54:09.200 I bust out the balloon. They get in the balloon 1:54:09.240 --> 1:54:12.480 at this point, yeah, it's just what it's Ross Elliott 1:54:12.800 --> 1:54:14.920 and Kelly. Oh. But before that, Amy goes off into 1:54:14.960 --> 1:54:18.400 the wild. We finally gets the third try. Will the 1:54:18.520 --> 1:54:22.800 gorillas accept me? Will the silverback gorilla potentially marry me 1:54:23.479 --> 1:54:26.280 and uh, yeah, she goes. They say yeah, come on, 1:54:26.479 --> 1:54:28.559 and so she moves on to be with the Silverback 1:54:28.600 --> 1:54:31.320 Gorilla and his like three other wives. Yes, it was 1:54:31.320 --> 1:54:34.000 a very touch and good vibe between Peter, doctor Elliott, 1:54:34.000 --> 1:54:36.480 and Amy, who he had been adamant throughout, like this 1:54:36.600 --> 1:54:38.600 is where she belongs, even though she'd had these clear 1:54:39.400 --> 1:54:41.600 signs that it was gonna be difficult for her to adapt, 1:54:41.640 --> 1:54:44.400 and even her moca was like this is not gonna work. Um, 1:54:45.720 --> 1:54:49.680 but he they have this fond farewell. Uh. This is 1:54:49.720 --> 1:54:51.640 also a very funny part to me where suddenly his 1:54:51.720 --> 1:54:55.760 shirt is like wide open and like you were trying. 1:54:55.840 --> 1:54:59.880 You guys were really trying, very very nineties. But yeah, 1:55:00.200 --> 1:55:04.720 now it's the three. It's Karen, Monroe and Peter in 1:55:04.840 --> 1:55:08.360 this hot air balloon floating off. Karen asked Peter to 1:55:08.480 --> 1:55:12.440 throw away the diamond h which he does on row 1:55:12.560 --> 1:55:15.760 is not happy about that. Um. I did find it 1:55:15.840 --> 1:55:18.400 interesting that they kind of have this like lovely escape 1:55:18.400 --> 1:55:20.240 in a hot air balloon, but like their plane had 1:55:20.280 --> 1:55:22.720 been shot down, like two planes have been shut down. 1:55:23.120 --> 1:55:26.760 I don't know, maybe these are not questions I should 1:55:26.800 --> 1:55:31.800 be asking, but yeah, that's I mean, the hot air 1:55:31.880 --> 1:55:34.560 balloon was what really got me. I was not anticipating that. 1:55:35.320 --> 1:55:36.840 There's a lot of things. There was a lot of 1:55:36.840 --> 1:55:39.080 build up of like, oh, wow, there's a talking gorilla. Wow, 1:55:39.160 --> 1:55:40.760 she drinks partina. There's a lot of things I could 1:55:40.800 --> 1:55:42.840 never have anticipated, to be honest, But that was the 1:55:42.880 --> 1:55:45.360 final thing where I was like, Wow, they are escaping 1:55:45.480 --> 1:55:49.400 the hot air balloon. Yeah. Yeah, they take off and 1:55:49.520 --> 1:55:52.240 they they look at the diamond one last time and 1:55:52.320 --> 1:55:55.640 then they throw it over the other side. Yes, and 1:55:55.680 --> 1:55:57.560 I think we get another we get one more shot 1:55:57.640 --> 1:56:01.880 of Amy who looks happy her new her new crew. 1:56:02.160 --> 1:56:03.800 She looks like she's going to live a good life. 1:56:04.120 --> 1:56:07.080 And that's the end of the movie. That's Congo. What 1:56:07.280 --> 1:56:12.880 a ride? All right? All right, well well Annie, thanks 1:56:12.920 --> 1:56:15.280 for joining me here on this episode of Weird House. Uh. 1:56:15.520 --> 1:56:18.920 This was a lot of fun rewatching um Congo and 1:56:19.000 --> 1:56:21.640 then discussing it with you here. Yes, thank you, thank you, 1:56:21.720 --> 1:56:25.440 Thank you so much for having me so fun. Absolutely 1:56:26.360 --> 1:56:30.120 so again. Your your your podcasts are stuff Mom never 1:56:30.240 --> 1:56:33.120 told you and savor people can find those wherever you 1:56:33.200 --> 1:56:35.960 get your podcasts. Have have you done any movie related 1:56:36.000 --> 1:56:38.960 episodes of either of the shows, recently. Uh, well, we 1:56:39.040 --> 1:56:41.520 do once a month. We do Feminist Movie Friday and 1:56:41.560 --> 1:56:45.000 sometimes Wild Saturdays on UH stuff I've never told you. 1:56:45.120 --> 1:56:48.440 We just did for Savior, we just did Pans Labyrinth. 1:56:48.920 --> 1:56:52.040 It's kind of like Halloween because it's her savor. We 1:56:52.120 --> 1:56:56.440 do like foods in fictional properties. 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