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Speaker 3: when there's no Brady Quinn and it's just LeVar and I.

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Speaker 3: We'd like to refer to ourselves as Black and Drack

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Speaker 3: because I look like Dracula and LeVar. I'm black. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it's pretty simple for those of you listening here

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Speaker 3: what that is. So I am a drack, he's black,

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Speaker 3: and we are often running here on this Tuesday morning here,

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Speaker 3: and you know, apparently not everybody feels like they were

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Speaker 3: told the truth from time to time. You know, some

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Speaker 3: people feel like in the NFL that maybe if they

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Speaker 3: on the opposite spectrum with how they made their decisions

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Speaker 3: and how they opted to make those career choices during

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Speaker 3: the course of their illustrious, high paying NFL employment. And

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Speaker 3: one of those guys is none other than Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 3: who was featured on Netflix's Quarterback season two, and he

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Speaker 3: talked about the decision to go to Atlanta and how

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Speaker 3: well had I known that, maybe I wouldn't have made

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Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting us to take a quarterback so high

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Speaker 4: at the time. It felt like I had been a

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Speaker 4: little bit misled, or certainly if I had the information

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Speaker 4: around phegency, it certainly would have affected my decision. I

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Speaker 4: had no reason to leave Minnesota with how much we

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Speaker 4: loved it there. If both teams are going to be

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Speaker 4: drafting a quarterback high But I've also learned in twelve

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Speaker 3: So that's the last part is the best part of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you've been in the league long enough to

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Speaker 5: place beyond that period. Like that's about it. Like it's

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Speaker 5: a pretty open shut situation. Like, Okay, how many other

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Speaker 5: players do you think have been misled that are in

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Speaker 5: like they've been misled. What the bottom line is is

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Speaker 5: wasn't Michael Pennix that you took your job or you

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Speaker 3: You played your way out of the job. It's like

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Speaker 3: you misled the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 5: They didn't feel like they were gonna have to use

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Speaker 3: But you made a choice. So there's no reason to

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Speaker 3: clearly the best situation for you to be in personnel wise.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers had to deal with them drafting quarterbacks multiple drafts,

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Speaker 3: They were upfront with him, which is why he made

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Speaker 3: when you think that you've got it all figured out, hey,

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Speaker 3: look I appreciate it, but I'm gonna go somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: it's business here. Then business came back and bit him

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Speaker 3: He didn't get the contract of a backup. He got

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Speaker 3: it's still a question mark question mark for him at

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Speaker 3: I think he may have released this prematurely. There's no

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Speaker 3: reason for you to put this out there. The bottom

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Speaker 3: exact situation in Minnesota. You might have got the yips,

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Speaker 3: get hurt, maybe he takes your position. Maybe you're a

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Speaker 5: And one of the most competitive industries that exists.

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Speaker 3: In the world. I think he took on too much,

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Speaker 5: So all you got to do is eliminate. Eliminate one

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Speaker 5: And as far as going and learning a new offense,

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Speaker 5: they kept kirk Cousins. I do not believe that that

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Speaker 5: I think that that's why kirk Cousins got the hell.

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Speaker 3: Out of that. Yeah, because they told him that we're

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Speaker 3: So to me, you got to always be prepared to compete. So,

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Speaker 3: So there's no to me, there's no such thing as

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Speaker 5: You're behind. You can't mislead somebody. Oh, I thought I

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Speaker 5: you like us Sam Darnold, and they don't have to

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Speaker 3: going with until they can't. That's why rookie contracts are

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Speaker 3: Feel bad for Kirk. Wow, he got the contract. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he liked it there. It was perfect, Everything

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Speaker 6: Take a pay kuite, go back they misled you.

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Speaker 3: Get back some of.

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Speaker 5: That signing bonus and go back to me. Yeah, right

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Speaker 5: to me, He's already he's already won. It's not he

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Speaker 5: No reason to have hard feelings, no need to feel

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, everybody? It's me three time pro bowler

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Speaker 3: do have a team that's going full red ass mode

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Speaker 7: I think it's just us having fun again. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be different looking Chiefs this year. Not

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Speaker 3: that's pretty fly. That's pretty fly. Biz. I think it's

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Speaker 3: You know, it's wild. The Chiefs are so unrelatable to

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Speaker 3: I was into it and you, I mean you basically

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Speaker 3: I think LeVar almost killed Chris Sims. I might have.

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Speaker 3: Then we would all been kicked out because I would

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Speaker 3: So but I was knocked out? That gay? What you got?

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Speaker 3: Google machine, LeVar Arrington did intercept Chris Sims in a

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Speaker 3: pivotal playoff game. But there's no evidence of you physically

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Speaker 3: hitting Chris. So what if you just like, if you

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Speaker 3: put it into AI, did LeVar Arrington kill Chris Sims? Like,

435
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Speaker 3: what would show up there? That's what you put in? Yeah,

436
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Speaker 3: physically no evidence of physically harming Chris Sims. Well, listen,

437
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's rack. Let's say I reported there,

438
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Speaker 3: but nonetheless, like it wasn't Chris Simms, it was it

439
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Speaker 3: was Brad Johnson. Well, but Chris Simms did have the

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Speaker 3: burst spleen or something like that in that game. I'm

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Speaker 3: almost positive there was a playoff game Chris Simms went

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Speaker 3: out because and Gruden was the coach, right, Gruden was

443
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Speaker 3: the coach for Tampa at that time, So yeah, LaVar

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Speaker 3: had forced fumble in that game. Look at that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you really did kill him. I forced a fumble, eight

446
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Speaker 3: tackles at forced fumble in an interception. Hell yeah, I might.

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Speaker 3: I might have hurting. I might have hurt h like

448
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure, Chris Simms. That's the hell of a game.

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Speaker 3: By the way, separate internal bleeding.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I was a beast when I when

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Speaker 5: I played. I mean, eight tackles, a sack of I

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Speaker 5: n t that. That's a hell of a game. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's probably better than any other linebacker or defensive player

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Speaker 5: that had a game. That's that's an MVP performance.

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Speaker 8: Damn.

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Speaker 3: He really didn't remember. Didn't know? Damn I did, all right.

457
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Speaker 3: I used to be something before I start doing radio

458
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Speaker 3: with you. I used to be something, you man, and

459
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: it all went down hill ever since. Now told you, man,

460
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: you are at the top of the top and now

461
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Speaker 3: you're doing radio midday with Count Chocolate. How almost cursed.

462
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: We almost had to dump out and it was it

463
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Speaker 3: was a f bomb. You went. You were teammates with

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Speaker 3: Bruce Smith, Dion Sean Taylor. Do you look over to

465
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Speaker 3: your left and you got me Geryl Green, Mark Carrier,

466
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Speaker 3: the guy with two dumb tattoos, Marco Coleman a truck

467
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Speaker 3: from the nineties in the parking lot, and he's got

468
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Speaker 3: a he's got a thorn bush, a thorn bush around

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Speaker 3: his arm and his dog on his back. You know,

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Speaker 3: my had a mighty fallen Yeah, it's all good. Man.

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Speaker 5: Part too, is that's why I rocked my gray beard

472
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Speaker 5: and I wear my little image glasses.

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Speaker 3: I like to be incognito because you know, this is

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Speaker 3: who I am now, this is where we are, this

475
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Speaker 3: is what we're doing, this is what we're doing now.

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Speaker 3: On the subject though, of the playoff run for the

477
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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes talking about just getting

478
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Speaker 3: back to having fun again, I just I hope that

479
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Speaker 3: he and he probably won't until his career is over,

480
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Speaker 3: but I hope that he and Chiefs fans and that

481
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Speaker 3: entire organization understand how good they have it. I hope

482
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Speaker 3: that they really do understand it, because sometimes you can

483
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Speaker 3: get caught up in the weeds on you know, just

484
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Speaker 3: sort of oh well, listen, it's the grind day to day.

485
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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes also talked to Tom Brady's been talking to

486
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Speaker 3: Tom Brady a lot this from Upp and Adams, and

487
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Speaker 3: he spoke about the advice he's gotten from TV twelve.

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Speaker 7: He always talks about being yourself. He thinks that, which

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Speaker 7: I truly believe too, is that guys can spot when

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Speaker 7: you're not authentic and you're not putting in the work.

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Speaker 7: And that's something that he did every single day. That's

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Speaker 7: why guys respected him so much. And that's all I'm

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Speaker 7: going to do for the rest of my career. And

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Speaker 7: I feel like I've done so far as I'm always

495
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Speaker 7: myself no matter if you like me or if you

496
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Speaker 7: don't like me, you know that I'm giving everything I

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Speaker 7: can hand to win the football game.

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Speaker 3: So Brady giving him all the advice. Brady was a

499
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Speaker 3: guy who struck me as was constantly worried about the

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Speaker 3: grind and never satisfied with what he had. And even

501
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Speaker 3: Brady probably looks at the start of Patrick Mahomes's career

502
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Speaker 3: and goes, damn man, there's been no literally no decline

503
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Speaker 3: with the chief since Patrick Mahomes is taken and the

504
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: toughest division. Yes, it's not like he's doing it in

505
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Speaker 3: a week ass division. He's got to go to work

506
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Speaker 3: every single year. It's not been easy. So the road

507
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: that he's had, the hoe he's been doing it on

508
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: some real treacherous train and he's still been able to

509
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Speaker 3: navigate it. That's the biggest question here.

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Speaker 5: As long as Patrick Mahomes stays healthy, you got to

511
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Speaker 5: assume the process is in play. The understanding of what

512
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: the defense needs to deliver and what the offense needs

513
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Speaker 5: to do in order for them to win is is

514
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Speaker 5: all solidified? If Patrick Mahomes were to go down, is

515
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Speaker 5: that the death of their successful run? That has to

516
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Speaker 5: be His health has to be maybe the biggest question

517
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Speaker 5: in terms of moving forward. As long as he can

518
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Speaker 5: stay healthy, which he has been known to get nicked up,

519
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Speaker 5: you know that ankle, like his ankles giving trouble at times.

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Speaker 5: If he were to go down, do they have a

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Speaker 5: contingency plan where they can still be the effective team

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Speaker 5: that they are when they have I mean, obviously they're

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Speaker 5: not going to be as good as they would be

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Speaker 5: with him in there. Do they have a contingency plan

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Speaker 5: where they can still win games if they were to

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Speaker 5: lose Patrick Mahomes for an extended amount of times?

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Speaker 3: Yes? And you know who that is, Gardner Minshew, What

528
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Speaker 3: are you worried about?

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Speaker 5: Say this and that in that offensive scheme, he probably

530
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Speaker 5: would thrive.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, Minshi's actually played a lot better than people realize.

532
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Speaker 3: Like if you just go look at his numbers, that

533
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Speaker 3: guy's going to be in the NFL for a long time.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders were a bit of a rough spot. By

536
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Speaker 3: the way, we're gonna have to edit some of the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Apparently Chris Sims was hurting against the Carolina Panthers, or

538
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Speaker 3: if you could use there, you go, Yeah, that's what

539
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: I'm showing that he burst him. But I might have

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Speaker 3: hurt though I might have hurting, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: I did. I do know that something happened to Brad

542
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Speaker 3: Johnson's ribs in pre season when I hit him. Now,

543
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Speaker 3: if you want to look that one up, Lee, look

544
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Speaker 3: that I got fined like ten thousand dollars for a

545
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Speaker 3: legal hit. I legally hit him.

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Speaker 5: The man still had the ball in his hand and

547
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Speaker 5: I hit him, and I knocked the spirit, soul, mind,

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Speaker 5: everything loose and some of it out of his body.

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Speaker 3: If I gotta find ten thousand dollars, I'd sell my son.

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Speaker 3: I got to get that money backs. By the way,

551
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: that fumble you forced was returned for a touchdown in

552
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: that seventeen ten victory from Sean Taylor. I didn't realize

553
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: that you really have to fall in a long way.

554
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: Look at me, just look to your left. This is life,

555
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: the memories. That's all you really can look for is

556
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: just to live in the memories. I guess fifteen thousand

557
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: for striking an opponent in the head. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if that's the right one that we're looking at. I

559
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: got that, yep, for taunting. Yeah, what was career five?

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Speaker 3: That's my career fines thirty five total, thirty five grand. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll try to look for the other ones. So far,

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Speaker 3: thirty five so far. I was the highest fine dude

563
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Speaker 3: in the league one year until Harball or somebody somebody

564
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Speaker 3: got hit in in the Chicago Bears game. Jim Miller,

565
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Speaker 3: Jim Miller, Jim Miller annihilated. And that fine took was

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00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: that Hugh Douglas who was that? Yeah, his fine pushed

567
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: him to the top. I was number one on the list,

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Speaker 3: and you Douglas took it on that hit in the

569
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: Chicago game. Yeah, he took it away from me. Well, look,

570
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: I was hitting people in the head though, I'll tell

571
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: you that. If there's one thing I was doing, I

572
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: was what they call targeting.

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Speaker 5: That's why I was a missile to your cranium. I

574
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: was a missile. That's how I used to in my mind,

575
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Speaker 5: Like I'd be lining up in the game, right, I'd

576
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Speaker 5: be in the game. Here we go, Sam sitting there

577
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: looking like like all right here we godopop, say.

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Speaker 3: Out of there, out of there. Only thirty five grand.

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Speaker 3: It's not bad. Hey, man got out of thirty five grand.

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Speaker 5: And some of those fines, I mean maybe those are

581
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Speaker 5: like my physical fines because I was getting fined, like

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Speaker 5: dudes wear their uniforms the way they want to wear

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Speaker 5: their uniforms. Now I was wearing. I was getting fined

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Speaker 5: for having my.

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Speaker 3: Sock to love. Hey, George Pickens got fined over for

586
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: two hundred grand last year by the Steelers. So I

587
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: didn't get fined by the team. I got fined by

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Speaker 3: the league. Well, the league was fine, league.

589
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: The league was finding me for my uniform violations and

590
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Speaker 5: hitting people in the hit.

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Speaker 3: Dan Snyder never find you because being there was a

592
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Speaker 3: fine enough. So he should have keep paying a fine

593
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Speaker 3: for being the owner. Yeah, some would say he did.

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Speaker 3: Uh it is uh still looking for him to pay

595
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Speaker 3: some of that hits. The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: LeVar Arrington, Jonas knox In for Colin.

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Speaker 2: One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day,

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Speaker 2: seven days a week. Within the iHeartRadio app, search Herd

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Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like.

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Speaker 3: I heard Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Jonas knox In

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Speaker 3: for Colin. Coming up in about twenty minutes from now,

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Speaker 3: we are going to have another edition of the herdline

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Speaker 3: news for you here on FSR. But right now we

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Speaker 3: turn it over to the man who covers college football

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00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: as well as anybody on the planet. He is none

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00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: other than Bruce Feldman of The Athletic, also of Fox.

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00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: You see him during Big New kickoff throughout the course

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Speaker 3: of the season. Best selling author, you can get him

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Speaker 3: on ex at Bruce Feldman CFB Bruce Good Morning, slash afternoon.

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Speaker 3: How are we feeling doing good?

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Speaker 8: Actually, at Big twelve Media Days in Texas, ran into

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Speaker 8: a guy I think you guys know very well, good partner,

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Speaker 8: Brady klint Oh saying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no figure, look at that. Tell him We said

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Speaker 3: hello him, yes, please do. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 3: missing him such social so can you tell us here

617
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: just in looking at this whole story that's broken in

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00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: college football when it comes to Texas Tech and their

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Speaker 3: recruitment of Felix Ojoe. What can you tell us about

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Speaker 3: how this all started and sort of where we're at

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Speaker 3: because we're seeing different reports of what the actual contract is.

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Speaker 3: Saw the five point one and then it was two

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Speaker 3: million and change. What do you know of the deal

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Speaker 3: thus far?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So the story broke on July fourth, and I

626
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Speaker 8: was I was offline. I was with my family on

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Speaker 8: the holiday, and then the next morning, some of my

628
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Speaker 8: colleagues at the Athletic we were trying to confirm that

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Speaker 8: what was reported for five point one million dollars for

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Speaker 8: three years and ended up making a bunch of calls

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Speaker 8: and talking to people at Texas Tech who were who

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Speaker 8: would know, and myself and my two colleagues. We had

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Speaker 8: talked to several people, you know, in the process, and

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Speaker 8: they said, actually the figure is for seven to seventy

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Speaker 8: five year for three years, and it's not the five

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Speaker 8: point one. Now, there was a caveat to that, which

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Speaker 8: was that if things change in the revenue sharing model,

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Speaker 8: or if there's a lot of deregulation, then maybe it

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Speaker 8: can get up in a five million range. But the

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Speaker 8: deal right now is for what we're reported at the athletic,

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Speaker 8: which was three years at seven seventy five per We

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00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 8: had talked to the agent involved and the agent had said, no,

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Speaker 8: it's five point one. But when we had asked for

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Speaker 8: some confirmation of that, if he declined to offer that,

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Speaker 8: and so based on what we know and what we

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Speaker 8: could confirm that it was significantly less than what we're

647
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Speaker 8: reported on Friday.

648
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Speaker 5: I have so many questions. Let's start here with the agent.

649
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 5: You got to believe the agent is trying to push

650
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 5: that number to the figure that he's pushing it too

651
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 5: because they have no intentions staying at Texas Tech.

652
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: Correct.

653
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 5: The idea that is is if we can say we

654
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 5: got to guarantee three year contract that that totals out

655
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 5: to the five million range, then if we're coming here,

656
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 5: you got to be in that. You got to be

657
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 5: in that parameter or within that realm of compensation for

658
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 5: us to even consider coming to your school. That's what

659
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 5: I would assume would be the priority of the agent

660
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: represented these these college athletes at this point. I mean,

661
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 5: would that be safe to say, well.

662
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 8: I think the lamar I think on what's going on

663
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 8: here is you know, the agents who you probably you

664
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 8: know either were you know, ported by you know, going

665
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 8: into the NFL or work. I think those are you know,

666
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 8: a lot of them are their certified agents, and it

667
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 8: was a different landscape than what we have now. There's

668
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 8: a lot of nil agents who aren't certified by anybody,

669
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 8: and they're trying to get established. And so you'll see

670
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 8: a lot of times on social media, whether it's on

671
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 8: Twitter or whatnot or Instagram, you'll see the people credit

672
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 8: and just say so and so told me, and they'll

673
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 8: reference the agent and maybe they'll even include their Twitter handle,

674
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 8: and it's a way for them to build that person's

675
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 8: brand and help them kind of get established. But also

676
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 8: it is a way for that agent to try to

677
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 8: set the market or re set the market because most people,

678
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 8: you know, I'm hearing at the Big twelve and the

679
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 8: other schools, have no idea how much Texas Tech really

680
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 8: probably is on the hook to pay. But they just

681
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 8: think maybe what happens is the first dollar figure that's

682
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 8: put out there that people see on social media, that's

683
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 8: the one everybody ends up running with, and especially if

684
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 8: it's the biggest one. So now it's like that's the

685
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 8: one gets passed around. Well, is that the going rate

686
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 8: for a five star offensive lineman five point one million

687
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 8: for three years or is it what they are actually?

688
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 8: You know, on the hook for.

689
00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: The easy answer.

690
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: The easy answer to that is it can't be the

691
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 5: going rate because nobody does it. You can't project out

692
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: to year three. Nobody does it. And let me just

693
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: ask this before I turn back over you Jones. But

694
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 5: in terms of guarantees, like and hearing that guarantee figure

695
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 5: being a part of the conversation, I mean, what type

696
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 5: of language, Because I was just saying during the break,

697
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 5: if my kid, which he got, offer more money from

698
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: other schools than the school he ended up going to,

699
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: but if they offered a guarantee contract to my kid,

700
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: you can't put language in there binding him to a

701
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 5: contract where he has to stay there for the entire time.

702
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: And if you did, we wouldn't take that contract. There

703
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: would be no reason to accept a guarantee contract for

704
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 5: three years if you're saying you have to be here

705
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: for three years because we don't know what the circumstances

706
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: hold for him or your school during the course of

707
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: that time. But I want the money guarantee. If I'm

708
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: a parent or I'm an agent, I want to guarantee.

709
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 5: Has there been any conversation surrounding that. If he were

710
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 5: to go into the transfer portal having a guarantee contract

711
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: for three years, what happens then? Do they sue him?

712
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 5: Do they sue the school?

713
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: Do they do they what recourse is in place if

714
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: you do a three year, three year deal, because no

715
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: one's ever done a three year guaranteed deal.

716
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 8: Right and there is I don't think there is any guarantee,

717
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 8: you know, in the true word guarantee, true sense of it.

718
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 8: I think that sounded good when he's probably told the

719
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 8: reporter as such, But right now, there's nothing that can

720
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 8: be signed anyway because of the way all of this

721
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 8: is set up. You can't have a signed contract right

722
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 8: now that specifically would be against any kind of rules. Okay,

723
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 8: And so there's that. Then there's the other part of it,

724
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 8: when you can say who can sue? You can sue anybody,

725
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 8: and you know in the country, you know it doesn't

726
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 8: mean you're going to win, but I'm sure they'll be

727
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 8: potential for lawsuits. But think about it this way. If

728
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 8: your and I've had these conversations with a football coaches

729
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 8: in the city, like if they're if somebody's going to

730
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 8: leave to go to a different school, let's say, you

731
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 8: know that's that's a second he wants to go to Texas. Well,

732
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 8: if you're a football coach you wanted to do you've

733
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 8: got to pay a buyout or you know, if it's

734
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 8: a contract, you have to get out of it, and

735
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 8: there's financial penalties that are often with that. And so

736
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 8: this thing is so different than I think the contracts

737
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 8: you probably add in the NFL or the contracts that

738
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 8: we see typically in pro sports. Because you know, you

739
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 8: got to remember, all of the athletes and your son

740
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 8: fits in a suit, they're not employees. You know, coaches

741
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 8: are employees, but college athletes that right now are not.

742
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 8: They're not deemed that now. Maybe at some point go

743
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 8: get to that designation, but it's not right now. So

744
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 8: we're in I mean, it's still such a messy situation

745
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 8: all the way around.

746
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: Bruce Feldman joining us here on the Herd Here Fox

747
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas knocks in for Colin. You know,

748
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: it's not like Ojo's the only one this week, especially

749
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: for Texas Tech you've got Ashton Rowden, who's the four

750
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: star cornerback, or a four star running back. You've got

751
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: the four star cornerback in Donovan Webb. There's also speculation

752
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: that they're looking at Cooper Hacket, who's a five star

753
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: offensive tackle in the twenty twenty seven class. What is

754
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: the vibe there about Texas Tech at Big twelve media

755
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: days from people you talk to? Are they giving them

756
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: kind of the side eye or are they looking at it saying, hey,

757
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: fair play. They figured this thing out and they're going

758
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: out and they're spending and they're getting some of these

759
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: top recruits.

760
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 8: It's next. It's funny, like we had these conversations with

761
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 8: a couple of coaches here. On one hand, one of

762
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 8: them said, hey, you know, good for them, Well they

763
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 8: can if they have it like that. I wish I

764
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 8: had that situation. Another coach was much more. He was like,

765
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 8: I think it's asinine how this is set up, and

766
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 8: I don't think that it's going to work this way,

767
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 8: and wondered, I I just didn't see it as a

768
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 8: sustainable model. It's no, you know, like, I think it's

769
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 8: great in one sense. If you're a fan of this school,

770
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 8: you're like, oh my god, we're beating Texas and we're

771
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 8: beating Oklahoma and we're beating LSU for records. We never

772
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 8: would have beaten them before, you know. And so there's that.

773
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 8: But you know, I get why coaches who are actually

774
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 8: in the business in the middle of this and know

775
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 8: it and know what it's like to have a locker

776
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 8: room and to try to maintain a locker room. It's

777
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 8: like it's unsustainable. And so it's a fascinating sperment that's

778
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 8: going on. And love it's for sure right now.

779
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 5: There's so much that is on. It's just not structured.

780
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: And how can you have it structured when you've never

781
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 5: been here before and you don't have any comps to

782
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 5: be able to do it. And you mentioned the whole

783
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 5: employee deal, it's still not pay for play like that

784
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 5: is very very prominent. And how the language is used

785
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 5: as opposed to you know, what is taking place at

786
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: the college level. So if you you are not a

787
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 5: pay to play person, can you do that?

788
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: Can you?

789
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: And I don't want to put you on a spot

790
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: if you don't have the information, that's fine, but I'm

791
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: just curious in terms of language, the house settlement versus

792
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 5: the NCAA versus nil. It has to maintain being nil

793
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 5: specific or you're turning them into paid employees if it's

794
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 5: just the university paying them. So when we talk about

795
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 5: the rev share payment of the twenty million that's cap

796
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 5: to pay these teams and where that money comes from,

797
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 5: how it's given to the athletes, what is the difference

798
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 5: now with that house settlement between the money that is

799
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 5: given from the revenue sharing and the nil. So say

800
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 5: it's like the collectives that are paying them an X

801
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: amount of dollars for or they're getting nil deals, you know,

802
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 5: with different companies, whatever it may be, Is there a

803
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: distinct difference between that house settlement revenue and the nil

804
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 5: and how these these athletes are getting paid for nil deals.

805
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 8: It depends on who you talk to. Certain schools say

806
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 8: it's not now, the schools say it has to be.

807
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 8: And what you've seen is a lot of places and

808
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 8: teams and we're just talking about one of them, the

809
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 8: most prominent one. Now they have front loaded their rosters

810
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 8: and I think you're seeing a lot of that go

811
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 8: on where teams are going to have budgets of forty

812
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 8: five and fifty and fifty two and as high as

813
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 8: fifty five million dollars this year. Now you're telling me,

814
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, a year from now, they're going

815
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 8: to drop down less than half of that. You know,

816
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 8: we all know we've worked around sports and long enough

817
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 8: that's not the direction it ever goes in. So and

818
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 8: we also know that there's always workarounds when it comes

819
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 8: to college sports, whether it's a fag man, whether it's

820
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 8: a bag of McDonald's that's fulling cash, a way people

821
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 8: have gained the system. Why would we think it's not

822
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 8: going to happen with a lot of these schools.

823
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you forgot car in the parking lot at the airport,

824
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: you know, Bruce from somebody for somebody that covers college football.

825
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: I was making the joke, and I was half kidding

826
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: yesterday that it just it was so much easier when

827
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: this stuff was illegal, because we could just focus on,

828
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: all right, who's got the top recruiting class? However they

829
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: got it, They got it, but you you had the

830
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: usual suspects. And now you've got schools like Texas Tech

831
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: who all of a sudden, like oh wait a second,

832
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: like we could be a part of this dance as

833
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: well too. I just I don't know how it lands

834
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: with you, but it feels like there's a lot of

835
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: unanswered questions and I just don't know when we're going

836
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: to get to the end where this is what it is,

837
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: these are the parameters and let's just focus on college

838
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 3: football and college football alone again.

839
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, and for me, I mean that's kind of where

840
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 8: I land on. It's like, all right, show me who's

841
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 8: going to be on the field, and we're gonna well,

842
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 8: like I you know, I don't have a dog in

843
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 8: the fight, you know where I just want to see

844
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 8: you guys still love the games.

845
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: But like.

846
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 8: You know, right now, it's just I've been around long

847
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 8: enough to know that there's always workarounds and there's always

848
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 8: people who will work in the margins. And it's different

849
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 8: than the NFL, where you know, you get kish draft

850
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 8: picks or find if you have too physical a practice

851
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 8: or whatever they you know. But at some point I

852
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 8: think college football will get to a you know, collective bargaining,

853
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 8: but they're not there right now. And right now, I

854
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 8: think it's still going to be the wild while West,

855
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 8: even if they try to pretend it's not. This is

856
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 8: this is the reality, and this is how they operate, isn't.

857
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 5: There isn't there a governing body just real quick that

858
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 5: that they're they when they did the settlement that they

859
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: get to or like a clearinghouse that they make sure

860
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 5: it's kind of telling you right. They can kill a

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Speaker 5: deal and say you're not supposed to get that kids.

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Speaker 5: The value of what you're paying him does not match

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Speaker 5: what it is that the kid is doing.

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Speaker 3: Where does where does that fall in? Where is that used?

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Speaker 8: I I We're going to see how that plays out,

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Speaker 8: because you also have to get the cooperation from all

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Speaker 8: these NIL agents to put them the paperwork. Are they

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Speaker 8: really going to all do that? What are they? You know?

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Speaker 8: I just think there's a lot of things when it

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Speaker 8: comes to Deloitte, who's going to be the accounting firm

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Speaker 8: that's going to be involved with this, and the mL

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Speaker 8: former MLB executive who's now, you know, kind of the

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Speaker 8: top top of this. I believe it when I see it,

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Speaker 8: just because we've seen I'm talking to too many coaches

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Speaker 8: who are just kind of like rolled up their sleeves

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Speaker 8: and are like, oh, yeah, this is going to be

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Speaker 8: a mess because they know that's the you know, it's

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Speaker 8: not like the people involved, they're not different. There's just

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Speaker 8: more middle men involved and there's just more more rules

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Speaker 8: to kind of navigate for circumvent if you want to

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Speaker 8: look at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Bruce Feldman, Fox College Football Reporter one, Bruce Analyst,

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Speaker 3: Part one, financial guru. Now a lot of meat on

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Speaker 3: his stuff on the athletic Get him on ex at

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Speaker 3: Bruce Feldman CFB Live from Big twelve Media Days. Bruce

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Speaker 3: always appreciate it, man, thanks so much and hope to

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Speaker 3: do it again.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you, buddy, Yes, sir, alrighty, there he is, Bruce

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Speaker 5: Felvin with us here. So much to discuss, man, this,

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Speaker 5: I mean, the rabbit hole is such a deep rabbit hole, man,

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Speaker 5: and it's dark. I'm telling you, it's a dark rabbit hole.

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Speaker 5: This is going to get I see it getting ugly

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Speaker 5: before it gets better. There's a whole lot to work

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Speaker 5: through with already pulling the trigger on allowing this this

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Speaker 5: type of funds to go out and and somebody who

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Speaker 5: brings them funds to the table. It's just it's so much,

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Speaker 5: so much to it, and I've been you know, I've

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Speaker 5: been immersed in this for since it's happened. Jonas like

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Speaker 5: I've I've been connected to it and in several different

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Speaker 5: manners and capacities, and it is so confusing. It's so

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Speaker 5: even having it organized and understood, it's still very confusing.

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Speaker 5: And if it's confusing to people who are really really

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Speaker 5: in it and learning it and using it, then you

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Speaker 5: got to believe that everybody else is in the same

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Speaker 5: in the same situation. You know, it's it's not very

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Speaker 5: easily to understand because there are a lot of things

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Speaker 5: that are not in place that need to be in place.

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Speaker 5: Structurally speaking, there is not an infrastructure in place where

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Speaker 5: the current state of college athletics can thrive and be

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Speaker 5: successful in something's going to happen. It's like trying to

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Speaker 5: run a website. A web page that isn't programmed the

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Speaker 5: right way. It's going to crash and you're going to

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Speaker 5: lose all of the data and everything that's connected to it.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of what the NCAAA or what college sports

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Speaker 5: is on that that you'rectory right now.

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Speaker 3: It's going to crash. It is the herd. Here on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox in for Colin