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Speaker 2: Crackers, friend sitting in here, we will see you Tomorrow's

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Speaker 3: Welcome One, Hangout mail Bag Friday. It's like kind of

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Speaker 3: a casual Friday. But you do have us three here.

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Speaker 3: Jack mcmull and Peter Apple rum late in the Just

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Speaker 3: Baseball Show on Friday, February eleventh, and I just found

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Speaker 3: something out about our friend and co host Peter Apple.

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Speaker 3: Would you find out? I found out that you're willing

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Speaker 3: to spend thirty dollars on airplane Wi Fi?

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Speaker 4: I wrote an article why Aaron Judge deserves an extension.

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Speaker 4: I spent thirty bucks on Wi Fi.

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Speaker 5: You know what happens.

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Speaker 4: I can't get through a flight if I don't have

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Speaker 4: Wi Fi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that's the worst take ever.

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Speaker 5: No not. You stare at the at the chair in

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Speaker 5: front of you. What do you do? Don't say read

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Speaker 5: a book?

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Speaker 3: Read a book. I also download shows and movies on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: I use that time to cut off my communication with

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Speaker 3: the outside world. I use it to almost communicate.

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Speaker 5: More, Yes, correct, communicate way more.

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Speaker 4: Also, Jack, when you're up units, you know you splurge.

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Speaker 3: You're up units. You just splurge a little bit. Is

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Speaker 3: that is that gambling? I thought we were just talking

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Speaker 3: about baseball. I forgot.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're a little bit of this, a little

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Speaker 4: bit of that, little bit of units, you know, a

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Speaker 4: little bit of splurgeon.

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Speaker 3: Is what it is. Yeah, sorry, I forgot. You are

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Speaker 3: the host of Not Gambling Advice Now. Episode one was

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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl preview with Colby Olsen. That was good.

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Speaker 3: Good facial expressions came from the YouTube video and Ram's

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Speaker 3: minus four. I guess is the play right?

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Speaker 4: Rams minus four? We got a ton of props. I'm

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Speaker 4: not gonna give him out on this show, even though

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Speaker 4: I did give out Kevin Huber over fifty two and

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Speaker 4: a half yards longest punt. We can hear the reasoning

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Speaker 4: for all the props, Gatorade, National Anthem Coin Toss, super

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Speaker 4: Bowl MVP. But Rams, Rams are gonna take it. And

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Speaker 4: I got my la hat. I'm in Vegas for the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl and I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: God, it's pretty awesome. It's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna have to like eat at home

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Speaker 6: cater What wings are like two bucks a pop catering

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Speaker 6: two dollars for a chicken wing. It should be like

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Speaker 6: fifty cents. It should be fifty cents. That's like oyster price.

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Speaker 3: It'd be like thirty cents. Yeah, so chicken surs oyster prices.

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Speaker 6: It's oyster seafood guy, South Florida, dude, come on like

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Speaker 6: that's that's It's like they're acting like chicken wings are

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Speaker 5: I might just not eat for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Or get something besides chicken wings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's cheaper than chicken wings? Pizza? Yeah, I gus

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Speaker 5: is pizza like super Bowl food?

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Speaker 3: You know what, why don't you just make your guests

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Speaker 3: a nice Caesar salad. Go get a salad bowl, Go

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Speaker 3: get some tongs, toss up a nice Caesar and.

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Speaker 6: Say, Peter, healthy, guys, how much salad or how many

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Speaker 6: greens have you seen me eat in your life?

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to convince arm to eat more vegetables. I

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Speaker 4: think it just make him feel all the way better

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Speaker 4: don't know how he's surviving without anything green in his

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Speaker 6: I'm running out of gas. I'm running out of gas.

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Speaker 6: You think this is why I am I am the

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Speaker 3: Maybe i'd say go on a walk and eat greens.

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Speaker 3: Like that's got to the recipe of happiness and success.

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Speaker 5: I'll try it, all right.

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Speaker 3: We got a Q and A. We had a mail

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Speaker 3: bag that we put out on social media Twitter mail Bag,

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Speaker 3: and we got some really good ones. I will run

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Speaker 3: us through these and I will leave it to you

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Speaker 3: guys to offer your staunch opinions. I'll follow with some

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Speaker 3: solid opinions as well. First question came from Lefty d

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Speaker 3: Hills on Twitter. Since the MLB technically isn't testing for

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Speaker 3: I promise, who's the one player that you guys think

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Speaker 3: would benefit the most from steroids? RM? You first.

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Speaker 6: This is hilarious because we were having this joking conversation

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Speaker 6: to put together an editive David Fletcher ramped realistically like

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Speaker 6: David Fletcher just just barrowing baseballs up instead of just

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Speaker 6: what does a rip's David Fletcher still do?

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if that frame is capable of

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Speaker 5: I want to hear. I want to hear what you got.

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Speaker 4: Imagine Byron Buckston on steroids. Oh my dear lore Byron

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Speaker 4: Buckston on steroids. Imagine him filling out to two thirty.

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Speaker 4: the field for one sixty two roid it up. He'd

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Speaker 3: Those are like the mass builders. Those create more testosterone,

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Speaker 3: agility or natural athleticism at all. But if you're watching

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Speaker 3: the Winter Olympics, and I know I'm the only person

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Speaker 3: that fifteen year old Russian figure skater tested positive for doping.

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Speaker 3: The substance that she used was a banned heart medication.

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Speaker 3: It was tremittazidine, which helps obviously, like it helps with

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Speaker 3: give it to a pitcher and let them be healthier

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Speaker 3: than ever, and let them go however long they want.

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Speaker 3: If you choose the right cocktail, I think Jacob Degram

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Speaker 3: Roger Clemens taken?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, give you be Clemens but better? I

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Speaker 4: I'd go Yelly, what about Trey Turner also? But then

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Speaker 4: he slows down a little bit, right, Ah, Faster faster.

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Speaker 4: Barry Vond's over five hundred stolen bases, even though that

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Speaker 4: doesn't really equate to everyone else who ever has took

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Speaker 4: But I'm sticking to it that it's gonna make you faster.

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Speaker 3: Fair Okay. Next question from Brennan Mayfield on Twitter, and

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Speaker 3: he concerns about Mike Soroka. Peter You first, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's obviously concerns with the injury, but I'm

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Speaker 4: More just anything you get out of him is an

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Speaker 6: not really concerned about their pitching situation with or without Soroka.

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Speaker 6: I'm definitely concerned about Soroka. I was at Game six

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Speaker 5: He was fully limping, and it's it's kind of nuts.

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Speaker 5: Time flies.

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Speaker 6: But when he tore that Achilles the first time, that

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Speaker 6: But I think this was a fully fully severed achille situation,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like tons of concerns about Soroka for me on

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Speaker 5: He's still twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not turning twenty five until the beginning of August.

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Speaker 3: So even if he misses two full years of Major

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Speaker 3: Plenty of time.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of why I wasn't overly concerned, uh, for Soroka.

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Speaker 6: Not bad at all, and well, and Darryl is on

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Speaker 3: As long as Major League Baseball as drug testing, seventy

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Speaker 3: What's the realistic timeline for the Tigers to be a

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Speaker 4: the young pitching end up being what we all hope

436
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 4: it to be.

437
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

438
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if I believe in Matt Manning. I

439
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 4: don't know if I believe in Trek's school, and I

440
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 4: believe in Casey Meies, but that belief has has dwindled

441
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 4: slightly when you just, you know, take a look at

442
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: a savant page and obviously I'm not gonna take that

443
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 4: fully away from him because when I watch, I do

444
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 4: see a good pitcher. But I don't know if I

445
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 4: believe in this starting rotation. And then Jackson job is

446
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 4: still a little while away unless sucks, Like I don't

447
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 4: think this is the Verlander, Porcello, Scherzer guy that are

448
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 4: coming up.

449
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't really have like a date.

450
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 4: I need to see this season how they perform, and

451
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 4: then I can give you a better answer. But this

452
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 4: is a big year for Manning and Schooble especially and Mice.

453
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know this year is going to

454
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 6: be no matter what the Tigers say, no matter what

455
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 6: the front office is, this is a feel it out

456
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 6: year for them. They want to see what the deal

457
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 6: is with these three arms, because this is the year

458
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 6: where you can really figure out what you're going to

459
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 6: get from each of those guys, Right, Scooble, you'll have

460
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 6: your answer of what you think he can be. Same

461
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 6: with my same with Manning. I think Manning you could

462
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 6: probably give a little bit more time. I was really

463
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 6: disappointed with Manning. I'm more optimistic on Schooble, and I

464
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 6: don't love Casey Miyes, And I know this is what

465
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 6: always ends up going.

466
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 5: Our conversation goes back and we have that bed.

467
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 6: I forget what the number is on eer Jack will

468
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 6: have to go back and dig that up. But I

469
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 6: don't really believe in myz. I like Eduardo for them.

470
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 6: You know, that's a guy that's gonna be with them

471
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 6: for the next few years. Their their offense is a

472
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 6: lot better, they have a catcher, you know, they have

473
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 6: a lot of things going for them in terms of

474
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 6: who's coming up through the system. But I really think

475
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 6: that they're going to assess this year, see how the

476
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 6: three young guys do, and then go from there. I

477
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 6: think what's going to happen is they're going to be

478
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 6: severely disappointed by Manning, gonna be fun with Scooble, and

479
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 6: I think they're going to be shifted with their reality

480
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 6: of Mies but okay with him moving forward as kind

481
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 6: of a middle to back end guy. So if they

482
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 6: go out and get an arm you know, in free agency,

483
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 6: and maybe Alex Fayato comes up, or they trade for somebody,

484
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 6: this could be a.

485
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: Team that's competitive. So I think they could compete in

486
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 5: the next two years.

487
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 6: I really do, because I believe in that offense and

488
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 6: it's young and it's only going to get better. They're

489
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 6: going to get Maggy off the books in the next

490
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 6: two years, and I think that money's gonna be reinvested back.

491
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You see competition in the next

492
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: two years from the Detroit Tigers, Like I just twenty

493
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty twenty three. I feel like eh, I

494
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 3: set the date at twenty twenty four because Riley Green

495
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: and Spencer Torklsim will be entering their second full season.

496
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: They're both going to debut in twenty two. They're gonna

497
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: have a full season of twenty three, and then twenty

498
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: twenty four they should be all systems go. That's when

499
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: schoobl and Maize hit arbitration. So you're going to totally

500
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: have your answer by the get Miggy's off the books. No,

501
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: candel Ario on the roster, but Biez is only going

502
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: to be thirty one years old at the start of

503
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I mean, like, I think that's the

504
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: year where you let these guys work through their young kinks,

505
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: and then you also have Job come up for his

506
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 3: rookie year. His ETA's right around twenty twenty four, and

507
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: you have the chance to make some moves and see

508
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: what you have. So like, you know, you talk about

509
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: this being an assessment year for the Tigers in twenty

510
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: twenty two. Arm Like, I'm with you. Use twenty twenty

511
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: two as an assessment year. Go sign what you need

512
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: to improve upon twenty twenty three. That's when you locate

513
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: the remaining flaws. Go sign what you need to improve upon,

514
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: and then your all systems go. And I think twenty

515
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: twenty four is the year the Tigers really storm the castle.

516
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: It's also just interesting too, because if they're gonna make

517
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: the playoffs, that means one team's gonna be out and

518
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 4: the Al East is still stacked, and the White Sox

519
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: are still gonna be really good. Luis Robert Llojimenez, you know,

520
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: Michael Kopek. They got a lot of young guys too.

521
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: The Angels are right in their peak where they have

522
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 4: to win now. The Astros are still a really good team.

523
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: The American League is just very competitive. And also we're

524
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: not even talking about the Guardians. We're excited for the

525
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: Guardian's future. You know, they have a lot of strong

526
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 4: prospects as well, and I would say they have better

527
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: young pitching. I don't think they have the offense that

528
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: the Tigers do.

529
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: So it's it's tough.

530
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: It's like, we can see the Tigers being much better,

531
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: but then who's coming out of the playoff picture in

532
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: the next two years.

533
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 6: But you know, it's funny, the Royals and the Tigers

534
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 6: are kind of carbon copies of each other.

535
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: Right.

536
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 6: They have a lot of really exciting offensive prospects, some

537
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 6: good young players as well, a little bit of a

538
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 6: balance of some veterans that can swing it, and then

539
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 6: just young arms that you just don't quite know, you

540
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 6: just don't quite know yet, you don't know yet, And

541
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 6: that's that's kind of the same thing I think you

542
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 6: see across both teams. So, uh, it'll be a race

543
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 6: between those two teams. I think one of them will

544
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 6: figure it out and one of them might not so

545
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 6: it should be fun to watch.

546
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: Let's answer the second part of the question at the

547
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: same time. Did the Tigers sign a relatively big name

548
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: outfielder once the lockout ends three two one? No, no, no,

549
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: there we go? Shall we move on? I don't see it.

550
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 5: There's no need. There's no need.

551
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no need, go figure go figure out, Go get

552
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: another picture.

553
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, really do anything, go get rodne Bobby Grossman was

554
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 4: good last year.

555
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: Ye, he was good.

556
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: He walks a ton, he can steal bags, he's got

557
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 6: sneaky pop, he's a good player.

558
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

559
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 4: If Riley Green coming up, I agree. Don't touch the offiel.

560
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: You don't need to, but do and but do good.

561
00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: Next question from Jakars eleven j A c Aja Cars eleven.

562
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: How long until you think the Gnats get back to contention?

563
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: Will Soto stay with them or is he going to

564
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: want to get out of there and win now? I

565
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: think that's an interesting question because Soto's stuck in Washington

566
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 3: until the end of the twenty twenty four season. The Gnats,

567
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: while they did go and get Kibar Ruiz and Josiah Gray,

568
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: have one of the worst farm systems in baseball. I

569
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: understand they have Cavali. I understand they have rutledge, but

570
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: there is nothing going on in that system. The Gnats

571
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: are in one of the worst spots in baseball right

572
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: now with arguably the best player in baseball, and he's

573
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: off the books after twenty twenty four. The Gnats will

574
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: not be competitive through twenty twenty four. So Soto's gonna

575
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: go get paid a billion dollars, not by the Gnats.

576
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: And to be totally honest, like I sat there for

577
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: like two three minutes and I actually just tried to

578
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 3: put a year as to like when the Nats are

579
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: going to be competitive again. And I think them more

580
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: than anybody else in baseball. I just can't tell you

581
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: when they're going to be competitive next. Like it's so funny.

582
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: I had the exact same reaction, like I'm looking at

583
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: their farm system, I'm looking at their roster, and I'm like,

584
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: the Nats are screwed. Yeah, They're screwed. I love Kid Cafali.

585
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: I do think he could be an eighties.

586
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: Besides that, So, I have a question to post to

587
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: you guys.

588
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: Would it be ridiculous to test the market for wan

589
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: So because because because you could have a franchise altering move,

590
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: like you could get five tippity top prospects that would

591
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 4: change your franchise, especially where their farm is. Because we

592
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: know baseball it's a one man show. One Soto cannot

593
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: do it on his own. Mike Trout's like, never want

594
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: a playoff game? Do you want just a one Soto?

595
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: Mike Trout the same thing, never makes the playoffs. But

596
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: at least you have one Soto, and at least you

597
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: didn't trade him. I don't think it's ridiculous to just

598
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: see what it would just see with someone empty, the

599
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: like with the Mariners. Absolutely give Huluro Rodriguez, like, give

600
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: everything for one Soto, because then you I'm just saying,

601
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: I don't think it's stupid.

602
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 6: I if I took over for the Washington Nationals, like

603
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 6: if that, if I took the job over, I would

604
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 6: try as best as possible to come up with any

605
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 6: plan to make this team better without trading one Soto,

606
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 6: of course, but I don't think I would be able to.

607
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 6: I really think I would trade him. And you have

608
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 6: to also know that there's there's a level of I

609
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 6: don't even know if they can afford to extend him.

610
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 6: I mean, if they couldn't afford to extend Vice Harper

611
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 6: and Afford is do they want to? I don't think

612
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 6: they want to. Uh, A lot of teams just to

613
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 6: have a policy against giving out that much money. You

614
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 6: know what, the way a lot of these contracts have

615
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 6: ended up. I don't blame organizations for not wanting to

616
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 6: do that. If I was an owner, I would I

617
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 6: would struggle to justify giving four hundred million dollars. So players,

618
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 6: they just don't age well, all just stacked against you.

619
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 6: When you look at the system. Cavali could be, could

620
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 6: be great. Cole Henry is really good. I loved the

621
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 6: Brady House pick. These these are guys that like a

622
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 6: couple pitchers, they'll help a little bit. Uh that there's

623
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 6: no bats that are gonna help you anytime soon zero.

624
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 6: Like Brady House could be a star, he's so.

625
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: Far away like a star twenty twenty six.

626
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: There's nobody else. Carter key Boom not panning out.

627
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: It was crazy. Yeah, it was like six years, six years.

628
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: Carter Keeboom not panning out is a huge, huge blow

629
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 6: to them. Uh, they don't have any path, Like, there's

630
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 6: no path, there's no talent outside of the select few

631
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 6: guys that we mentioned. I think you would have to

632
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 6: make that trade, as crazy as it sounds, because this

633
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 6: is the only way that you can jump start this

634
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: whole thing. It's really the only way, and you're not

635
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 6: gonna be able to spend your way out of it.

636
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 5: With with Strasbourg and Corban.

637
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 6: Eventually coming off the books, which isn't for a while,

638
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 6: you're not gonna be able to spend your way out

639
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 6: of it. So I would start over. Roebless and Keeboom

640
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 6: not pinning out killed them.

641
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Victor Robliss not pinning out. It was

642
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: like the nail in the coffin for them right away

643
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: if you had Roeblass and Soto when they both were

644
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: who they were supposed to be. I mean, we're working

645
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: with house money right here with the Gnats like Boom,

646
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: but Roblss sucking is not good a way to measure

647
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: organizational success and like just a deep farm overall, Like

648
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about at the end of the

649
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one season, like pretty much every Raise affiliate

650
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: had a crazy good record by year's end. The Gnats

651
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Speaker 3: I was with their short season affiliate. In twenty nineteen,

652
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: they finished last place in the New York Penn League

653
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: by quite a wide margin. In twenty twenty one, the

654
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: Fredericksburg Nationals, the Low A affiliate of the NATS, had

655
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: I want to say, like in zero and twenty start

656
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: to the regular season, like when your minor league teams

657
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: are really bad, that means that you don't have really

658
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: good players there. And they have like some guys that

659
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 3: I really like a lot of those guys, Like I

660
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: really like as people a lot of those guys, and

661
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: I think that a couple of them can turn out

662
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: to be really good baseball players. But like, you can't

663
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: find me twenty five guys in that system right now

664
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: that can put together a winning team in Triple A

665
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: or Double A or HIA or Low A. Like it's

666
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: really hard to find ten guys that are ready for

667
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: a certain level that can actually win baseball games.

668
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 6: And how do you get that talent? Yeah, like how

669
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: do you accumulate it? Because you look at the projected

670
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 6: lineup right now on Fangrafts Lane, Thomas Seesar Hernandez, Juan Soto,

671
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 6: Josh bell Yadiel Hernandez, kibert Ruiz Alcid Escobar, Carter, Kei Boom,

672
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 6: and Victor Roblisz. We know that Strasbourg and Corbin's contracts

673
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 6: are immovable. Josiah Gray is one of the only controllable

674
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 6: pieces you have. Realistically, the only piece that you can

675
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 6: really trade for a return outside of Soto is Josh

676
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 6: Bell and then yeah, any of the other guys, you're

677
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 6: getting a marginal return. So in that and that right

678
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 6: there kind of tells you everything. How else are you

679
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: going to get your team where you.

680
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: Need to go.

681
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 6: You can't stockpile draft picks, You can't do anything else.

682
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 6: You have to I think you have to cash in

683
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 6: your only asset.

684
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: Really, I thought you guys were gonna be so pissed

685
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: to me for bringing up trading one Sottle, But doesn't

686
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: it seem like the only option Jack, Like, what else

687
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: do they do?

688
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: Because as constructed nothing they could get fucked like the

689
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: Machado thing. Like you remember when Baltimore got screwed with

690
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: Manny Machado. They should have built him before that year started.

691
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, they they sneakily had a good season

692
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: the year before though, and they wanted to run it back,

693
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 6: and you know, like I respect that, It just it

694
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 6: imploded on them, like they actually had a good year

695
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 6: the year before.

696
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 5: And wanted to run it back.

697
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 6: It didn't work out, But like they can't do that

698
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 6: because if they do, If THENTS do that and they

699
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 6: can't cash in on Soto, they're screwed for for years

700
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 6: to come. They're gonna have to hit on every They'd

701
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 6: have to hit on every draft pick. It would be

702
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 6: no other way. So this is the they have one

703
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 6: redeemable asset and they got to cash it in. I

704
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 6: don't know when, but they got to cash it in.

705
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: You compare it, can you compare it to a situation

706
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: in the NBA. I mean we're after the trade deadline now,

707
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: Like can you compare it to what happened, Like what

708
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: had to happen for Minnesota, Like Karl Anthony Towns is

709
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: a superstar, Anthony Edwards looks like a superstar, but they

710
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: got to hit on everybody, and like they're still not

711
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: even close to championship caliber and they won't be for

712
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: the foreseeable future.

713
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Speaker 6: Well, and the beautiful thing in the NBA, though, is

714
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 6: you just you hit on a couple of draft pick

715
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 6: or two and you sign a guy and that's your

716
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 6: starting five. Like that's the difference Whereas for baseball, how

717
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 6: do you replace or how do you improve twenty five men?

718
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: How do you do that? With the draft?

719
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 6: You won't be able to implement them quickly. You can't

720
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 6: just sign guys through free agency. It's it's gonna be

721
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: a pain for them. I know people might think it's

722
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 6: nuts that we want to do this, but I think

723
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Speaker 6: if you give it one more year, see some of

724
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 6: these guys, guys do if anyone you know sticks out

725
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 6: or anybody pops up in your system, and maybe something

726
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 6: goes that way, But I think so too ends up

727
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 6: being dealt.

728
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: Speaking of futures of franchisees, next question comes from Brendan Shelley,

729
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: who has a brighter foreseeable future the Orioles or the Phillies. Pete,

730
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: You first, this.

731
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: Little a tough one because you'd think, oh, it's clearly

732
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: the Phillies, right.

733
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Speaker 3: Might not be the Phillies.

734
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Speaker 4: Ools have one of the best farm systems in all

735
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: of baseball, and you can't get any worse than they're

736
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 4: doing right now. And we've talked about the Phillies. When

737
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 4: it comes to free agents, how they have to sign guys.

738
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: They have to sign guys because arm correct me if

739
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, this Philly system isn't that great now. And

740
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: on the major league roster you have Bryce Harper, and

741
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: you have jjil Muto, and you have Rhee Hoskins, and

742
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: you have Zach Wheeler and you have Averon Nola.

743
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: After that.

744
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 4: Cricket, I would say the Orioles as crazy as it sounds,

745
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: because they have young, controllable talent in the big leagues

746
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: right now, pretty solid players. Cedric Molmes is a star

747
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: right Mount Castle could at thirty five bombs. They have

748
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: some guys, and then they have a slew of young prospects.

749
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 4: But Phillies are just managed better than the Orioles. Like

750
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: we've said this before, is that when it's so close

751
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: with like Adley, Bobby Wit Julio, I sometimes give it

752
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: to the organizations who I think can develop their players

753
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: just a little bit better, Like the Orioles have had

754
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: some of these great prospects come up and just haven't

755
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: really been able to unlock them develop them like they

756
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: should be.

757
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Jack.

758
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: Remember we had that whole podcast episode on how many

759
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 4: players have gone from Baltimore. All these pitchers like Kevin Gosman,

760
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: Josh Hater and have left. So it's it's there's a

761
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: lot of both sides, but I go with the Orioles.

762
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 5: Jack, what are your thoughts?

763
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: So, Like, Baltimore's got a way better system and they've

764
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: got the number one overall pick this year, and Ryan

765
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: Miller just published a wonderful mock draft. You can find

766
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: that on just Baseball dot com. He's got brooks Lee

767
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: going to Baltimore at one to one. Tamar Johnson he

768
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: has going second overall. I know that a lot of

769
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: Orioles fans are gonna want Tamar Johnson, but I think

770
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: brooks Lee lines up better with the window that's going

771
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: to open for Baltimore. Like College bat, He'll get up well,

772
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: Adlee and g Rod and Dale Hall are still under

773
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: a ton of control and then he all of a

774
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: sudden joins Gunner Henderson on the ascent there. So in

775
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: terms of like who's there right now, the Orioles. But

776
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: we also know that the Orioles have this affinity for

777
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: fucking situations up.

778
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they are.

779
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: I mean, they've proved in recent memory to be kind

780
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: of the most inept organization in baseball when it comes

781
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: to some decisions there.

782
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: And the reality ever seen worse pitching than last year,

783
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: last year's pitching staff. I mean, I think they had

784
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 4: a five eight five yarra.

785
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: They were utter dog shit on the mound, right, So

786
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: g Rod works out, Hall works out. You gotta find

787
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: like eleven other guys.

788
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the thing with Phillies have like those two

789
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: guys who already made it and then they're in that

790
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: situation with then what's after that? I mean, Zach Allen

791
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 4: is a decent arm mckabel, but like you love mcabel, armed,

792
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: you love mcable, I like.

793
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 6: Abel, I like Able. I think he's he's gonna be good,

794
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 6: but he's still far off. You know, he's gonna be

795
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 6: three years.

796
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: But look at Philly, though Statt's gonna be up this year.

797
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: You've got a Hall of Famer coming off of his

798
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: second MVP who's in his prime, and you've got him

799
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: for the foreseeable future. And Philadelphia is a top ten

800
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: market in baseball in the United States. It is a

801
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: top ten city. So like, they're gonna spend more money,

802
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 3: and I just think the Phillies are gonna be more

803
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: willing to put the money where their mouth is than

804
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: Baltimore ever would. I mean, Baltimore is forever going to

805
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: have a sub fifty million dollars payroll. If they're allowed

806
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: to have a sub fifty million dollar payroll.

807
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I really. My thing with the Orioles is

808
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 6: I love like I agree with a lot of what

809
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: Peter said, like offensively, I think they project to be

810
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 6: one of the more exciting teams in the next few years,

811
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Speaker 6: and they have They have a knack for drafting hit

812
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: tool guys that develop power, and I love that. I

813
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 6: love that approach, and it seems to be working with

814
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: them on that side of things. But they just can't

815
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 6: develop pitching. G Rod is developed because he's a freak himself,

816
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 6: and DL Hall is just disgusting. He's been battling injuries.

817
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 6: I'm nervous about DLL Hall's health and g Rod's the

818
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 6: only guy they really have there. They're not going to

819
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 6: sign anybody pitching wise, how are they Their system is

820
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 6: all bats for the most part. I'm a little bit

821
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 6: nervous about who's gonna freaking pitch for them. Where I

822
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 6: look at the Phillies, They're gonna make some trades, like

823
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 6: they just restocked a little bit after the draft. I

824
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be shocked if if Dombrowski says see it, Andy Painter.

825
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 6: You know they just drafted Andrew Paynter first round, big

826
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 6: high school arm. He's gonna take a long time to

827
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 6: get there. They have two big high school arms, and

828
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 6: Mick Abel and Andy Paynter are ables better. I could

829
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Speaker 6: see them saying, see a painter, package him with somebody

830
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 6: else and go get another piece. If that happens. I mean, now,

831
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Speaker 6: this rotation is interesting because I love Zach Wheeler, we

832
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 6: all do. Nola is still a really good two who's

833
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 6: going to have a better year next year. Ranger Suarez

834
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Speaker 6: man like he came out of nowhere, was a guy.

835
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Speaker 6: Kyle Gibson is not great, but he's a good four.

836
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Speaker 5: And they went and gotten.

837
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Speaker 6: Hans Kraus, who I think could be a fine five.

838
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 6: So if they if they go get somebody else, they're

839
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 6: in good shape. And Alec Bohm is still twenty five.

840
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 6: I think he could start to turn things around. If

841
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 6: he doesn't, then you know they can go look at

842
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 6: other areas there.

843
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Speaker 5: I just love the core. I love reeseaw Hoskins.

844
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Speaker 6: He's still only twenty nine, like you said, Bryce Harper,

845
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 6: only twenty nine, Realmuto thirty one, like they still have

846
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 6: a lot of run with these guys in another two

847
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 6: three years.

848
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 5: I'm interested to see what they do.

849
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 6: But I believe in in the Phillies just being able

850
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 6: to make lemonade out of lemons a bit more than

851
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 6: the Orioles.

852
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 5: That's really it.

853
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

854
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: I think I went out on a limb there, just

855
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: because I do love this oriol system so much, but

856
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: the Phillies like they're an eighty win teamer above all.

857
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: The Orioles are trying to get up to seventy wins.

858
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just sixty. They're trying to get just

859
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: sixty wins literally, so and I was more thinking, Wow,

860
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: the Phillies system seems to be pretty barren. They're major

861
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: league roster is not that strong right now. But then again,

862
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: post lockout, that could go get comforted, they could go

863
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: get a big short stop and then they're right back

864
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: to being contenders in the NALY East. So I'd like

865
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Speaker 4: to change my answer from the Ools to the Phillies.

866
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: But I think what I meant was was just how

867
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: good this Ools farm system is.

868
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 6: Well, And what's crazy is is again, like when we

869
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: were talking about Phillies moves during the season, I'm like,

870
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 6: I don't even know how they could feasibly make a

871
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 6: trade Like now, they could feasibly make a trade like

872
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 6: they could package Andy Paynter, Johann Rojas and like even

873
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: in Alec Bohm and get it, get to dude like

874
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 6: that they could.

875
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: Get Matt Chapman with that.

876
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 6: So you know that that's the thing here, Like they

877
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 6: are a mover two away from going up there where

878
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 6: the Orioles just they need a lot to happen. All

879
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: that to say, the Orioles are heading in the right direction.

880
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 6: They just got to figure out the pitching.

881
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, this is mostly an arm question I think

882
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: from Kevin Beryl Kevin underscore b A R R A

883
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: L barral, barrel barrel.

884
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: Hey, he's the man.

885
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: I see, Okay, they absolutely makes sense them the content

886
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: of this question here. Do you believe that Max Meyer

887
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: and JJ Blede make their debuts for the Marlins thoughts

888
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: on Peyton Burdick in center field if needed for twenty

889
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: twenty two.

890
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 5: That's a great question. Uh.

891
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 6: Well, Blade showed up to camp beefed up twenty pounds

892
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 6: of muscle, which is pretty sick after what he just

893
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 6: did in the Arizona.

894
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: A Fall League.

895
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 6: So I think Boude cracks the big leagues this here,

896
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 6: and I think he's gonna do pretty well. I'm really

897
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 6: sold them on the swing adjustments. Everything I've heard from

898
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 6: from Marlin's camp is really positive about the day and

899
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 6: the fact that he added muscle. I mean, this was

900
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 6: a guy that just wasn't that physical before at all,

901
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 6: Like you just relied on natural hit hitting ability. Marlins

902
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 6: need a guy that has bats to ball skills.

903
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 5: To Day'll be that dude for them. Holly up Meyer.

904
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 6: Again, it's more about where does he fit in than anything, right,

905
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 6: Like who are you booting from the rotation? I mean,

906
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 6: I'll turn that question on you, guys, because I think

907
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 6: Meyer's pretty close to big league ready. He'll be ready

908
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 6: after ten starts. But under the assumption that let's say

909
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 6: Lozardo's throwing, well, it's it's Sandi al Contra, Trevor Rodgers,

910
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 6: Pablo Lopez, Eliezer Hernandez, and and Jesus Wizardo potentially Edward Cabrera.

911
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: Do I say Edward Cabrera, No.

912
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: You haven't said him so, but you didn't even put

913
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: him in, So I was like, well, can kick him

914
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: out now.

915
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: Edward Cabrera?

916
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 6: And then Eliezer is the odd man out already, so

917
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: like they might try and trade him. Who are you booting?

918
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 6: Assuming everyone's like throwing pretty well, what do you do?

919
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 6: What do you do with Max Meyer?

920
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: Do you think Max Meyer could serve as maybe like

921
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: a Copek type role where he's coming out of the

922
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 4: bullpen maybe four fifth inning kind of in there, and

923
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: then maybe work him into the rotation for his or

924
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 4: if he's just such a weapon back there and keep

925
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: him there because you can kind of full with him

926
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 4: however you like. And isn't he's more of a two

927
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 4: pitch guy right now? Right he's kind of yeah, developed

928
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 4: that third I.

929
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 6: Was really encouraged by the change up, but yeah, I

930
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 6: mean like that's the big question, like how is the

931
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 6: changeup going to be? I think that's a great idea, Pete,

932
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: because this is a Marlins team. I know you guys

933
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 6: will laugh, but like they're trying to win now, Like

934
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 6: they're trying to do as well as they can, and

935
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 6: they're better off putting Max Meyer in two three inning

936
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 6: situations spots start and have him up at the big leagues,

937
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 6: like we've seen that that doesn't necessarily stunt growth as

938
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: we saw with with Crochet, we've seen it with with Copiic.

939
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 6: That would give the Marlins a little bit more flexibility there,

940
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 6: and it gives him some big league experience. I think

941
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 6: that makes the most sense, and that gives them Marlins

942
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 6: a better arm out of the pen, which their pen

943
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: sucked last year. I don't care about the bullpeny A.

944
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 5: Ray, it sucked.

945
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 6: There was no one that they actually could trust to

946
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 6: get swings and missus. They need swinging miss guys in

947
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 6: the pen. That might be the role for him.

948
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: Go buy some bats with the.

949
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: Like go, go trade for some hitters like Eliezer Hernandez

950
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: and Jake Eater, Like, send them. You've got Eerie Perez

951
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: coming up too. They have so many starting pitchers. Like,

952
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: go get a big league contributor at third base or

953
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: in the outfield, maybe a center fielder, and like old,

954
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: there we go. We're preaching to the choir.

955
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 6: Fucking no, dude, I know you're preaching to the choir.

956
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 6: If if I were in charge, that would have been

957
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 6: done six months ago. It would have been it would

958
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 6: have been done last year. I don't know what's like,

959
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on. They they're stockpiling fifty

960
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 6: arms and that I'm interested to see what happens on

961
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 6: the other side of the walkout because it's just it's

962
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 6: crazy to me. They did want to start a having

963
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 6: Garcia and said, I don't do it, don't do it,

964
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 6: don't do it.

965
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: But Burdick. I think Burdick's good at a corner?

966
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: What that good at a corner?

967
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: Is that good at anything?

968
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

969
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: That sounds like I don't remember him being a great

970
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: defense over there in the corner.

971
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 5: He's not good at anything. He's good hit, fine, he's fine.

972
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: I just don't know.

973
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: Moving over from Milwaukee to Miami, how's that gonna work

974
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 4: for him?

975
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, after a career year and he's had one I

976
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 6: think he was a one o eight WRC plus guy

977
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 6: for his career as a corner outfielder. No thanks, Berdick

978
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 6: to wrap up. Bro Quick can play center. Great athlete,

979
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: it's just how much contact is he going to make?

980
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 6: But that's a guy I'd love to see get in

981
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 6: the mix out there. Crazy power walks a time, and

982
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 6: the defense is good enough out there.

983
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a thirty six percent k raid in

984
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: eight games in Triple A. He was like four for

985
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: twenty eight in Triple A. I gotta see him hit

986
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: Triple A pitching before he hits big league pitching. But

987
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: like that's a month in Triple A. I think he's good.

988
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And you know he walks, it's ton to

989
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 6: offset it, which you know if he's if he's a

990
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 6: twenty eight k k guy, but he walks fourteen percent,

991
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 6: you know that's palatable if you can, if that can

992
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 6: translate it, that's great.

993
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: If he can walk fourteen percent.

994
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 6: He broke them. He broke the Marlin single season walk record.

995
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: Verdick. I know you've heard this story, arum Berdick and

996
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: couldt it was a tempt Yeah, he a non guaranteed contract.

997
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: In Game one of the Cape season in twenty eighteen,

998
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: he hits three bombs in a game, So then can

999
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: you believe that the rest of the year.

1000
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 5: That's taste.

1001
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: That was the first full baseball game I've ever called. Wow,

1002
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: really did it against the Brewster Whitecaps. Peyton Burdick, No, dude,

1003
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: that's that's awesome. That's so cool.

1004
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 5: That's so cool.

1005
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 6: So funny enough my host family that Michael and Barbara

1006
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 6: who were kind enough to host me for the whole summer.

1007
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 6: Burdick lived with them the summer before, so that was

1008
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 6: one of the first things I heard was because it

1009
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 6: was right around the time of the draft, and they're like,

1010
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 6: they're freaking out. They're so excited about Peyton because they

1011
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 6: they're so close. I stay close with Michael and Barbara

1012
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 6: still still to this day.

1013
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 5: Uh, and they.

1014
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 6: Were so amped for him, and that's they told me

1015
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 6: that story. And I was like, talk about rising to

1016
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 6: the occasion because for people that might not know, you

1017
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 6: have your full season Cape Coddleague players, but because some

1018
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 6: players come in at different times. You know, some are tired,

1019
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 6: need a couple of weeks, some are still going in

1020
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 6: the College World Series. There's temp players that will jump

1021
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 6: on the opportunity to just be there for a couple

1022
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 6: of weeks, and very few will be able to convince

1023
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 6: enough to stick on the roster. And usually when the

1024
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 6: rest of the guys come, they send the other ones home.

1025
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 6: Hitting three home runs is it's temp guy is a

1026
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 6: pretty damn good way to convince people that you should

1027
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 6: stick around.

1028
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 5: And that's just kind of like the gamer that Burdick is.

1029
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was a Cape League All Star that year.

1030
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: I mean, shout out Peyton Burdick. We end the pod

1031
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: with a Peter focused question, this one coming from Kevin Gross.

1032
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: If the Yankees sign a new shortstop, will they have

1033
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: a legit shot at the World Series floor? Is yours?

1034
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: It depends on what shortstop. If they signed Carlos Krat, yes,

1035
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: I think they have a legit shot. If they signed

1036
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 4: Trevor's Story, I do think that they have a legit

1037
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: shot at a World Series title. Do I think they're

1038
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: gonna win by just doing that alone. No, they have

1039
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 4: to go get a guy like Matt Olson or even

1040
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: re sign Anthony Rizzo. They have to make sure that

1041
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: they're upgrading at first base, that they're upgrading at shortstop.

1042
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: And I would love another starting pitcher, you know. I

1043
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: like John Montgomery, I like jameson Tyan. I like some

1044
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: of these young arms coming up. But with Luis Savarino's

1045
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: arm troubles, I'm assuming that he's going to be okay.

1046
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: But right now, behind Garrett Cole, there's a lot of

1047
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 4: question marks. I do love my guy Nester, and I

1048
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be a valuable piece next year in

1049
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: that rotation, But right now shortstop is an area of concern.

1050
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: But by just getting one of the big shortstops. I

1051
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: don't think that puts you in pristine world series contention.

1052
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 5: Where does Induhar fit fit in.

1053
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: Universal d Do you hear? The American League gets two dhs? Now,

1054
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: so we have and nowhar at the second DH, and

1055
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: his his trade stock skyrocketed this morning.

1056
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: He was literally ethereum and l teams.

1057
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 5: Yeah he's ethereum all right, right now.

1058
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: He just went to a sixty hit tool like you've

1059
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 3: never seen.

1060
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's let's see. Actually crazy enough.

1061
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 6: I saw a trade proposal today with and Dow Harran

1062
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 6: and it was not satirical.

1063
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: Oh what do you mean? Are you sure?

1064
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: Because now you think with him and it has now

1065
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: been deemed satirical.

1066
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: No, no, this one was not satirical. It was It

1067
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 5: was good.

1068
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 6: It was it was a very serious offer and it

1069
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 6: was and then just like do was just like thrown

1070
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 6: in there though like it was one of those where

1071
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 6: like the offer was fine as it is, it was

1072
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: an offer they just threw the I gotta pull it

1073
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 6: back up.

1074
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 5: It was funny though. It was a good one. Uh,

1075
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 5: but people are.

1076
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 6: Always just throwing a douja out there. It's it's it's

1077
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 6: one of my favorite memes. But Glabor, where does he do?

1078
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 4: Glabor's gonna move over to second and I'm i'm I.

1079
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: I know you guys are more down on Glabor. When

1080
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: he moved over to second base, it seemed like it

1081
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: was more of.

1082
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: A all right, now I'm relaxed. Now I can focus

1083
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: on the bat.

1084
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: Whether that's true or not, that's what it seemed like

1085
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 4: from watching him on a day to day basis.

1086
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: He seemed more relaxed.

1087
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: To the plate, and then number showed that he was

1088
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: better once he moved over to second base. Yeah, I'd

1089
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 4: put DJ at third.

1090
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 5: DJ a third, and then you just say peace to

1091
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 5: to the guy.

1092
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 4: No, go is gonna be he's gonna have to move

1093
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: around the infield like he's gonna have to be our

1094
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: utility guy. He's he can play some shortstop, he can

1095
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: play some third base. You could put him over at

1096
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: second and he'd be fine to a Yankee shift a

1097
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: ton anyway.

1098
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: Hey what about DJ at first?

1099
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 4: No, I don't love DJ at first because I think

1100
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: that that dampens his defensive abilities. Because DJ LeMay, who

1101
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: is a great defender, but I think his worst defensive

1102
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 4: position is first base, and it's also a position that

1103
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: is not It's not one of the most important positions

1104
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 4: defensively on the field. Like I'd rather him at second base,

1105
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 4: I'd rather him at third base. He's better there, and

1106
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 4: those positions mean more when it comes to defense.

1107
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1108
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 6: Have you thought about Aaron Hicks at shortstop's under contract

1109
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 6: for another five years?

1110
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he makes no money, So I'm not that

1111
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: worried about no money.

1112
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 6: Making more money than any Marlins made in the last

1113
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 6: ten years.

1114
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you want me to say, like

1115
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 4: about the Martin like they're not paying hitters because Aaron

1116
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: Hicks is making ten million dollars a year doesn't mean

1117
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 4: like that's a bad contract because the Marlins don't spend

1118
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: money on their bats.

1119
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, seven year seventies, pretty pretty trash.

1120
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: Listen, Moorida, no stadium Tacks, New York. How much do

1121
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: you pay for that shoebox apartment you live in right now?

1122
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: And your task rabbit still hasn't come to hang your

1123
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: hang your stuff in the background.

1124
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 5: I know I haven't. I haven't put the task grabbit

1125
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 5: request in yet. I haven't, and I've got more.

1126
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 6: Issues around here, and my curtain fell down, so I

1127
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 6: wake up bright and early from the sun, and I

1128
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 6: just haven't replaced it yet. But we're rocking and rolland

1129
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 6: I pay too much for the shoe box apartment and

1130
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 6: stay in comes don't make enough to know about that.

1131
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: Do you guys disagree with my Yankee take? Do you think, like,

1132
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 4: let's say they signed Carlos Korea and that's it, do

1133
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: you think their World Series contenders?

1134
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 6: I think if they do nothing, their World Series contenders.

1135
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 6: I think it's with that much talent as al, he's

1136
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: a World Series contender. I did the Yankees seem to

1137
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 6: recently find ways to come up short, But if the

1138
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 6: Yankees did nothing at shortstop, I would still say that

1139
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 6: they have like a shot. I wouldn't be surprised if

1140
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 6: they put it together and made the World Series, you know,

1141
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: like that's that's a team that again, they could call

1142
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 6: up Oswell Perrazza three months into the season and have

1143
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 6: at least a slick defender over there who has back

1144
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 6: to ball skills. That lineup is so good it doesn't

1145
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 6: really matter. I think they're contenders no matter what it's seen.

1146
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: This year after year, it's the same line.

1147
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 6: I agree, but they're still contenders every year. They're still

1148
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 6: Vegas favorites every year, so like these stops ridiculous. They

1149
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 6: have like the second best every year. And I also

1150
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 6: think that they have a lot of minor league arms

1151
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 6: that are gonna come and help them this year. Ron

1152
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 6: Marinaccio disgusting. I've been thank you, No I get messages

1153
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 6: from so I just had Joey Lol Brafito and then

1154
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 6: call up Astro seventh round pick Lope trains at the

1155
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 6: same place as Mardinacho in Jersey and he texts me

1156
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 6: like every day, like, dude, not shows the grossest guy

1157
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 6: I've ever seen in my life. His change up is

1158
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 6: like a left handed slider, like he's going to be

1159
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 6: gross and the fastballs nasty. He was like texting me

1160
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 6: videos he looks gross. He's going to be a bullpen

1161
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 6: piece for that next year, mark my words. And then

1162
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 6: wes Nesky's a great depth piece, you know, for them,

1163
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 6: whether you need him in the bullpen or spots start

1164
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 6: or whatever. I think Walda Chuck will be able to

1165
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 6: help out at some point next year. And like they

1166
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 6: even have still Clark Schmidt and Davey Garcia for nine

1167
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 6: to one to one emergency like that they have a

1168
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 6: lot of depth, more pitching depth than I think they've

1169
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 6: had in a long time. Sevarino's healthy. There's a lot

1170
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 6: to like here in terms of the pitching. I think

1171
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 6: there's more going on than they've had in the.

1172
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 3: Past year after year. I'm hoping.

1173
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm slightly the pessimistic going in, Like

1174
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: that wild Card game crushed me. I know, it hurt

1175
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: me so bad, like so bad. So I'm I'm I'm

1176
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 4: not overly optimistic going into this year. They got to

1177
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: prove it to me. Out of all people, it's got

1178
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: to be proven to me.

1179
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, speaking of proving it, arm you see that

1180
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: jersey that I have back here?

1181
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So how do you have that?

1182
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: It's a two a tongue of I loa Alabama jersey.

1183
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: It's my brothers. He got it on a d H gate.

1184
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: So I just borrowed it for the sake of this,

1185
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 3: because I like, I would run through a billion brick

1186
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: walls for Mike McDaniel right now. Why yeah, Why because

1187
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: he's awesome?

1188
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: Oh, you like him because he's kind of like you

1189
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1190
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: Huh.

1191
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 5: Jack's not biracial?

1192
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: What did he say? He came out what was his

1193
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: statement about it.

1194
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: I saw a tweet, but I never actually got into it.

1195
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 5: No, he's biracial, is That's.

1196
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 3: What he said.

1197
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 6: He counts under the Rooney rule, which was just really

1198
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 6: funny because he just he just doesn't look anything mixed

1199
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 6: at all.

1200
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 5: I guess it just caught everybody off guard. He just

1201
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 5: very very white, like it's that's just what it was.

1202
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 6: It was funny though, But yeah, I guess he's he

1203
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 6: fits under that.

1204
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 5: That so what the Niners get to pick for that?

1205
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, they get a pick Like because you're you're your

1206
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 6: coach that fits under the Rooney rule was taken away,

1207
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 6: you get it.

1208
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1209
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 6: The Rooney rule to me is so complicated and weird.

1210
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 6: I loved Floes, but I am happy that they got McDaniel.

1211
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 6: Like McDaniel's I think going to be the guy that

1212
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 6: if if anyone's gonna help to figure it out, it's

1213
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 6: going to be McDaniel. But did you see the video

1214
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 6: of him, Like it was so forced.

1215
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 5: I think they love him.

1216
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 6: Dolphins pr was like, you know, FaceTime tour right now

1217
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 6: and he just pulls his phone out and.

1218
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 5: He's like, what's up to h.

1219
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 6: And then like talking back and forth, like we're gonna

1220
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 6: have a really nice, long professional relationship.

1221
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 5: I'm just like, I loved it. It was awesome. The

1222
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 5: most awkward, cringey thing I've ever heard. But yeah, I'm

1223
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 5: all in on McDaniel. I'm cool with that.

1224
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: Fire me up. I'm so here for Mike mcdad. Dude.

1225
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: The Knicks didn't make any trades.

1226
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys got Cam Reddish to learn well, and

1227
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: then Reddish didn't go to the Lakers. That was the thing,

1228
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 3: Like LA was looking to get Reddish from the Knicks.

1229
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: I think it was like Westbrook for Reddish, Like that's

1230
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: what they were trying to shop there.

1231
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 6: This Well, Westbrook the worst player and Reddish less. I

1232
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 6: would register they won't play him, Yeah, I would, dude.

1233
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 6: I'd rather have Jack low post minimum elbow elbow jumpers. Yeah,

1234
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: you for the minimum or Westbrook for his contract? In

1235
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 6: me you every day of the week. You guys know

1236
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 6: much money he's making.

1237
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, for.

1238
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: Making forty seven million next year. At least Harden opted

1239
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: into his forty seven The NBA.

1240
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 5: Like NBA, Alright, it's not the same.

1241
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: NFL is better, go Rams fired up. NFL is better

1242
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: than the NBA.

1243
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: Pete last words on the Super Bowl before we send

1244
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: people into the weekend.

1245
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: Rams minus four lock it in. They're winning by thirty.

1246
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: RAM will win the Super Bowl behind Matt Stafford and

1247
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup. Super Bowl MVP plus six hundred Cooper Cup. Hmmm,

1248
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 4: over modulated as shit. I love it, Arm, What are

1249
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 4: you thinking?

1250
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 6: That's gonna be a fun one to look into? Like

1251
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 6: the wave forms when you go to edit that out,

1252
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 6: that's where, that's where. That's where Pete was yelling.

1253
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: Scream.

1254
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 6: I hope it's close. I think the Rams are like

1255
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 6: the obvious pick. I just hope it's a good game

1256
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 6: and I hope nobody gets hurt.

1257
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to see me happy and my

1258
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: Rams win.

1259
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: I hope both teams have fun. Now. I kind of

1260
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: wont Joe Burrow to way.

1261
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 5: Not really because like if it was the Yankees, dude, like,

1262
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 5: i'd want it for you.

1263
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: I really know you wouldn't.

1264
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 5: No, I really would, I really really would. I swear

1265
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 5: I really would. I really would want.

1266
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: I don't believe you unless I think you want us

1267
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: to be depressed.

1268
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 5: I think no, I would want.

1269
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 6: I would want you to get the Yankees World Series.

1270
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 6: I would not the Rams is too recent, man, like

1271
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 6: they just moved to LA.

1272
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: I get it.

1273
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 6: You have every right to be the fan of them,

1274
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 6: but you haven't waited long enough.

1275
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 5: You haven't. You haven't suffered enough good play.

1276
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: I haven't suffered.

1277
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 5: Just yeah, like, suffer a little bit more.

1278
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: They lost to Super Bowl when I was a fan.

1279
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, that was the worst game I ever watched

1280
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 5: in my life. But that game so I sucked.

1281
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: I had a teaser, one of the worst bets I've

1282
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 4: ever made. I had the over like thirty six points.

1283
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: I teased it all the way down and I took

1284
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 4: I don't even remember what I had the rams. I

1285
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: had the rams like it's a fourteen point something crazy

1286
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: and the game finished thirteen to three.

1287
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's laughing at am. I just screaming on my an.

1288
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 5: No.

1289
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: No, I mean your ability to just recount like that

1290
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: bet is hilarious. I could do a lot of them.

1291
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: I've made a lot of them. We'll save them for

1292
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: next week. We'll save them for not gambling advice. Okay,

1293
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: you sign off with that on not Gambling Advice, But

1294
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 3: on the Just Baseball Show, you sign off with thank you, everybody,