1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Mayor con Thank you so much for joining us where 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: you're at a climate finance summit. Were you surprised at 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: the pushback that you guys got. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Well, we have in London now the world's biggest clean 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: air zone, covering an area more than six hundred square miles. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: Nine million Londoners in our breathing clean air. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: But even got the history of these policies, there's always 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: been initial pushback. The initial congestion charge in London two 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: thousand and three opposition. No one would dream of reversing 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: that congestion charge. In two thousand and eight we brought 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: in a low mission zone for big vehicles. 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: All of London was covered. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: A lot of objection from those who were drivers of lorries. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: Would dream of reversing that. 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: When I brought in the first ever osterlow mission zone 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: in central London. Not to concern, but we saw in 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: a couple of years a reduction to almost fifty percent 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: of toxic air. A third few children been amitted hospital 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: because of. 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: Air pollution illnesses. We expanded it. 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: Some opposition there, but we saw a twenty percent reduction 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: in air pollution. There has been some genuine concerns that 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: London has had which we sought to address three weeks 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: in now since the U guits was expanded and people 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: have realized actually their vehicle probably is compliant, they're not 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: paying a pay more, they're seeing the benefits of cleaner air. 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: So with hindsight, you wouldn't have rolled it out differently 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: or is there anything that you've learned it for how 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: you did it in the last four weeks. 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: Well, there are some people who have genuine concerns. 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: We sought to address them with financial support so they 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: can make a just transition transition. At the same time, 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of misinformation disinformation out there on 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: social media and there are lessons to be learned about 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: how they can seep into the mainstream, but how we 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: respond to that. 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: But we're also hearing reports that the government is trying 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: to possibly water down some of the previous commitments made 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: to net zero. Is climate change now toxic? 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: Well, what's happening is some people are trying to weaponize 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: climate change, weaponize air pollution. 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: And here's the perversity. 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: Of what Prime Minister Sunac is doing. We've seen in 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: the UK in's September. In London in September for the 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: first time ever four consecutive days of temperatures north of 46 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: thurnity degrees celsius. We saw last year in London temperatures 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: north of forty degrees celsius. 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: Wildfires in London, We've. 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: Seen across Europe and the global North in America, wildfires, droughts, 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: heat waves. The response of government should be actually to 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: turn this awful crisis into an opportunity, creating green jobs, 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: a green new deal, thinking about how we can both 53 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: save the planet, address climate change, but also give people 54 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: security and have that just transition. And this is basically 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: you know, lazy politics. From a week Prime Minister throwing 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: red meat to his backbenches because he's so weak and ineffectual. 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Do you think you could have been better supported by 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: kier Starma with you. 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: Les Well. 60 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: I recognize that we've got to make sure we take 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: people with us. 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: I recognize we've got addressed people's concerns, but concerns. 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: But from kir Starmer and the Labor Party, what I 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: would hope to see and we are seeing. 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: Is plans to address the time emergency. 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: You've got an announcement from the shut of Finance Secretary 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: Rachel Reees saying you know what in the first term 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: of a labor government will be invested into the tune 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: of twenty eight billion pounds a year, which is a 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: proportionate terms, akin to not more. 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 3: Than President Biden's Inflation Reduction Act. 72 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: But Mayor, is it fair to say that you could 73 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: have gotten more support by JR. Starma on you les 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: and also in the by elections and you haven't because 75 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: it's now a political hot potato. 76 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: What happened was the by election in Oxbridge and Rice 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: took place. 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: Few weeks before the units was expanded. 79 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: People had judge concerns which we were addressing at the 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: same time people were playing on that as well as so. 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: Kier and I are close friends. We've over for more 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: than twenty five years. 83 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: The only thing we disagree about is I support a 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 2: great soccer team, great football team Liverpool. 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: He sports a rubbish roun Arsenal. 86 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Okay, But apart from football, what kind of advice would 87 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: you give him to win the general election? No? 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: I don't give care advice. 89 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: You know what I do is I'm a friend to 90 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: care but also an example of what a labor politician 91 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: winning and the difference we can make being pro business, 92 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: supporting businesses to flourish and thrive, being pro enterprise, being 93 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: pro fighting a client emergency, being pro clean air, building 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: record noumbs and affordable homes, making sure we invest in 95 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: public transport and young people. And what do want people 96 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: to see across the country is that that's the difference 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: Labor winning can make compared to contrast to a Conservative 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: government where there's been economic mismanagement. List trust is all 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: mini budget last year but also a week at ineffectual 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: Conservative leader. 101 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: What can Labor now do to be closer to businesses? 102 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: There has been a campaign to actually get them on board. 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: I think the latest polls show that they be pretty 104 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: happy with the Labor government. What would you do more? 105 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: Well, there's two. 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: There's two things that people want to see from good leaders. 107 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: One is addressing social injustices, but also economic competence, supporting businesses, 108 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: being proud to support businesses, being pro businesses to being 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: pro business. 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: One of the things that we've got to have the humility. 111 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Is polities to accept is you know, we don't create 112 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: the jobs the wealth of prospiracy. 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: Very often we think we do, but we don't. 114 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: We can create the environment where businesses flourish and thrive 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: and work with businesses to be pro well paid jobs, 116 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: to work with businesses to make sure they invest in 117 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: young people, To work with businesses to train. 118 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: Up people to have the skills for the jobs being created. 119 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: My nervousness about the Layer Party is our reputation in 120 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: a recent past has been anti growth or anti prosperity. 121 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: What k Sarma Rachel reeves their teams have done is 122 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: to reassure businesses by listening to them that we are 123 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: pro business. We're back at business as a result. 124 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: Mayor, Sure, should London have gotten the rm IPO and 125 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: was it a kick in the teeth not to have 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: done so? 127 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, hey you the rm IPO. Well listen. But 128 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: the great thing about you know, London is our of 129 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: the line strengths is. 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: Still there we you know, even post Brexit, we are 131 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: still a city that has got all the things that 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: businesses need to invest in. 133 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: London, to expand in London and to run in London. 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Mayor, what are you most excited about in the climate space? 135 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: So? 136 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: Is it green bard issuance? Can London financial as a 137 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: center actually become a hub for a green finance and 138 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: green issuance? 139 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: We started our conversation by you talking about the ultraal 140 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Emission Zone, the world's biggest clean air zone. There are 141 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: so many exciting things happening in London. We have the 142 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: largest amount of electric buses in the western world, the 143 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: largest amount of rapid charging points in the Western in 144 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: Western Europe, bigger party you know, recon numbers of trees 145 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: being parted rewild in half at taxi electric. What I'm 146 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: saying to investors around the globe is London is the 147 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: green capital of the world. This crisis of the client 148 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: emergency can be an opportunity. 149 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: We have a green bond in London. 150 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: More than five hundred million pounds come to London invest 151 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: and also at the same time make sure that the 152 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: London Stock Exchange is known as the Green Stock Exchange. 153 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: That mayor can London do that by itself. If you 154 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: have a government that doesn't really believe in its own pleasures. 155 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: In the transition, I say this. 156 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: I said this with the utmost humidity and no complacency. 157 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: This government is only here for a short time. In 158 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: the near future, there's a general election as soon as 159 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: it's called. I'm hoping the British public gives labor a 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: chance to be in government. And one of the things 161 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: that Kirstar has done this week, another good thing is 162 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: done is is to set out a direction of travel 163 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: that with a labor government will be close or in 164 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: alignment with the European Union. So what I say to 165 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: people nervous about this ineffectual, ineffective conservative government is their 166 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: lifespan is very short. 167 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: They'll be out of power very soon. Mayor thank you 168 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: so much for your time, so AMU's a pleasure.