1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: We are presented by wind Bet Betting as the team's 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: four bet together at win Bett Eric Gallen, joined by 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: espn Field Yates Field. A lot of exciting things happening 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: for you. Congratulations and your new addition to the family. Yeah, 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: I say the first what do be a draft pick 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: or a free agent sign in the NFL offseason? Took 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: place actually during division or round weekend. So my wife 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: and I welcome to baby girl. Which has been amazing. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: It's been fulfilling. I was proud to announce my retirement 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: from sleep about six weeks ago. So we are running 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: on caffeine and the hope and promise of what these 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: prospects here at the Combine are going to bring to 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: NFL teams soon enough. What's her name? Kinley? Kinley Yates. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: So my wife and I each have fairly unique names, 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: without this responsibility that we had to sort of think 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: of something we had not previously heard of ourselves. So 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: after about I don't know six months of agonizing over names, 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: we finally decided upon one. And once we did, we 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: were like, not only are we done, We're not telling 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: a single soul because if somebody, if somebody, here's the 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: name and either tells us, oh that's my cousin's name, 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: or I don't like that name, or I love that 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: We we don't want to be influenced. So six months 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: of debate figured it out that was the way to 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: go by not telling anybody. I have a two and 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: a half year old, a Grace, and we didn't tell 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: anybody beforehand. In fact, after she was born, we were 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: thinking that we're gonna name her her something leading up 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: to the birth, and then she came out and I 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: started calling her gray see, and then we stuck with that. See. 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: We talked, We talked about that is it? Like, what 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: if she comes at and we're like, this is not 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: Akinley and you know something, don't let that thought cross 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: into your mind. She's Kinley fixed done. H. If we 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: have to order six monogrammed items before she's born just 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: so we can't change our minds and make ourselves be 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: more responsible, we will do exactly that, all right. So 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: let's transition to some football here right now. How much 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: have you enjoyed doing the first draft podcast with the 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: best there are in terms of evaluating draft prospects over 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: the years in mel Kuyper, A legend and the comic ship. Yeah, 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: I love doing it for a lot of reasons. But 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: I tell people, and I was talking about this with 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Mel actually on his radio show recently, is that there's 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: nobody at ESPN that cares as much and is as 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: passionate about the specific era that they cover as Mel 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: and Todd are about the NFL Draft. They eat, sleep, 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: and breathe. NFL Draft covered three and or sixty five 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: days a year. I joked with Mel that I could 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: ask Mel to do a podcast only on defensive back 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: prospects that went to Washington State and he would have, 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: over the course of his thirty eight years of doing this, 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: probably forty names that come to mind. He is unbelievably 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: unparalleled in terms of his knowledge and his reference points. 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: And then Todd. Sometimes when you have someone who takes 56 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: over a similar role or that identical role to you, 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: but comes in a little bit later than you, it 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: rates a dynamic of competition. And yet Mel and Todd 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: have this tremendous respect for each other. And I think 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: the roots of that are that Mel knows just how 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: much Todd puts into what he does every single day, 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: and Todd has the vantage point having played the game 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: himself at the college level and has so much that 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: he can offer, not just as an evaluator, but because 65 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: he's also a college football side that reporter. He's tapping 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: into sources throughout the fall to help him know more 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: about these people, these players as people and not just 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: what you see on film, because as we all know, 69 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: the evaluation is not simply what you do on Saturdays. 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: It's what you do on Saturdays, but also how you 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: carry yourself, the kind of individual you are, because that 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: football character is in some cases just as important as 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: the football ability. Right. The information is key. But I 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: also loved that the entertainment that you gots break table 75 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: because you can tell everybody's enjoying themselves. Yes, you eat 76 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: and drank and sleep football with what with that being said, 77 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: you guys are out there having a good time. I 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: always tell people like I I I am always open 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: to hearing hey like less of you, Like if someone 80 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: said less of you meaning me field like, I'm happy 81 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: to hear that because my my primary objective in that 82 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: show is to stay out of the way. To the 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: point I just I was, I try to open the 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: show and say, here are the two people that people 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: actually care about listening to mel and Todds. Let's get 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: right into their insights. On occasion, I will add a 87 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: piece of context here there, but mostly just to be 88 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a point guard, a traffic cop, whatever term you want 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to use. So the New York Jets, the key off 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: season is under way before we start talking about the draft, 91 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: top about free agency. The tampering period, legal tampering period, 92 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: which is oxy moron, begins March fourteenth, and free agency 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: begins March sixteenth. The Jets have plenty of kept space. 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: What do you think they have to do in free 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: agency even before we get to the draft. Yeah, it's 96 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: always interesting that the NFL, which is different than as 97 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: an example of the n b A, has the draft 98 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: after free agency. And so when we discussed the draft, 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: everything has to kind of be put on hold, or 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: at least has to be you have to sort of 101 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: earmarker and say, hey, this is what we think in 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: March one, But three weeks from now, in March two, 103 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: the Jets could have spent a hundred million dollars guaranteed 104 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: in on free agency, and they may have filled five 105 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: needs that no longer our needs after those players are 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: signed in free agency. But um, what I would say 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: specifically as far as Jets and the Jets and sort 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: of addressing some of those top needs in free agency 109 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: is and I know this is like probably not as 110 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: exciting to fans as the prospects of acquiring you know, 111 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: whoever the best players are. In free agencies, you always 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: have to start with the business in house, right. You 113 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: have to decide which players that are pending free agents, 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: are guys that are gonna stay, guys that are gonna go, 115 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: Guys that are maybe extension eligible that you need to 116 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: take care of. So you go through the roster and 117 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: whether it's somebody like Braxton Barrios coming off of an 118 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: All Pro season as a returner, do you want to 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: bring him back? I would imagine there's interesting bringing a 120 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: guy back up really well for them last season, gave 121 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: him a spark in the kicking game. And then it's 122 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: deciding what kind of market to anticipate him happening having 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: what are you willing to uh? How are you budgeting 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: for him? Uh? And then also other guys that whether 125 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: it's a Jamison Crowder who is uh just days away 126 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: from the three year contract you signed with the Jets 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: being being over amongst other guys on offense and then defensively. 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: It's evaluating players not just what they bring to the 129 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: the field, but medically. You know, Marcus May obviously a 130 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: guy who was a franchise tag players just a year ago. 131 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Where is he had after that Achilles tear? Is he 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be a guy that's read to the play 133 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. What's his forecast looking like? 134 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: So I always start with the in house stuff moving 135 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: on because I think fans and more excited about, you know, 136 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: the big money, big ticket items that you can afford 137 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: in free agency is if guys reached the open market, 138 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, is there a reason why 139 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: this player was not kept by his incumbent team. If 140 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: he's so spectacular of a talent, why is he available? 141 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: And people often forget that. Yeah, and when we're going 142 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: for this process and there's no doubt that players can 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: reach free agency and be extremely valuable to their new team. 144 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: We just saw a team in the Rams win the 145 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and some of their best players include a 146 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: guy like Andrew Witworth who was a free agent, and 147 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, he was an elder who's an older offensive tackle, 148 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: but he showed that age apparently is just the number right, 149 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: he still played at a high level. Robert Woods who 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: got hurt in the middle of the season, but that 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: was a guy that they signed as a free agent 152 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. Like there are guys that reached 153 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: free agency and are really really good players, but then 154 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: you find other teams that make investments or other situations 155 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: where a team makes an investment, and you say, uh, 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's the reason why that the incumbent team 157 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: was not as motivated to keep him, but just zooming 158 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: out and examining some of the need for the Jets. 159 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, I think after year one of Zack Wilson 160 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: their reasons to be optimistic. There are also reasons to 161 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: understand that, like the more you can do around him 162 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: will be maybe not as important as Zack's personal development, 163 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: but certainly important in a way to help him being 164 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 1: a better position this upcoming season. So the wide receiver 165 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: room has some interesting pieces. Certainly we saw the emergence 166 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, who was really really good when he was 167 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: on the field. Seems like a kind of guy that 168 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: should be closer every down player and I would think 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: plays an even more prominent slot roll this upcoming year 170 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: than he did this past season when he and Jamison 171 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: were kind of trading snaps there Corey Davis. But then 172 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: beyond that, like there's a room for another wide receiver, 173 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I'd imagine Jets fans are probably clamoring for another wide 174 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: receiver or maybe even another tight end you could make, 175 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, a bigger impact, and then assessing which players 176 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: are available there. Um, I know it always becomes easy 177 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: when we're talking about the Jets that Joe Douglas is 178 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: the GM to just fall back on. He's going to 179 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: find a bunch of offensive lineman or defensive lineman because 180 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: he was a former offensive lineman himself. And I'm sure 181 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: they'll be monitoring those markets. But I do think this 182 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: could be an offseason where the Jets sort of targets 183 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: and focus extends just beyond the big guys up front, 184 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: because they probably understand that, like on offense, a couple 185 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: more playmakers will go a long way, and I thought 186 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: the secondary played adder down the stretch, but adding a 187 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: little bit, there's so much youth there that may be 188 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: a combination of youth plus experience could go a long way, 189 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: uh into taking that group for the next level. 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Y're and you're looking at 205 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: the landscape of the FC while there are some quarterbacks, 206 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: you got Josh Allen inside the division, Patrick Mahomes justin 207 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Herbert Lamar Jacks, and we saw what Joey Burrow did 208 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: with Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, I thought that there were plenty 209 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: of real There were a lot enough freasons to understand 210 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: why this is number two overall pick in the draft, 211 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: flashes of confidence, flashes of unique talent, flashes of major upside. 212 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: Consistency is always gonna be something you watch closely with 213 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: rookies because it's their first time in the NFL, and 214 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: more often than not, they are inconsistent. I thought, Zack, 215 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, certainly earlier in the year there were some 216 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: games or you're thinking to yourself, all right, these are 217 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: rookie moments, right, and it's the determining factor about his 218 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: long term value is going to be what does he 219 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: learned from those or do they persist as problems? And 220 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: it seemed like by the end of the season the 221 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: confidence ways what was was way up. I don't think 222 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Zach lacks confidence in general, but on the field that 223 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: you're continuing to do the right things. Um, and then also, uh, 224 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: are you doing the things that no matter how big 225 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: or stronger or athletic you are, so you're protecting yourself, 226 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: you're protecting the football, You're making good decisions consistently. And 227 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: it seemed like that picked up towards the end of 228 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: the year. I have something coming out on ESPN dot 229 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: com soon and about predicting starters for this upcoming year 230 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: at the quarterback spot. And might take away obviously in 231 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the Jets is it's Zack Wilson of optimistic um. But 232 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: I think that his development will not just be about him. 233 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: But just to go back to that point a second ago, 234 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: is that, like Zach, Wilson may look different with you know, 235 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: an offensive line that could be beefed up this offseason 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: or maybe has Mackay backed and back in the full 237 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: next year. It left the right tackle um and then 238 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: also a couple more playmakers that you know Corey Davis 239 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: missed a good amount of time at the end of 240 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: the season. Like him, having his guys will go a 241 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: long way towards his development. You mentioned Elijah More five 242 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: touchdowns in eleven games. Michael Carter was selected in the 243 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: fourth round. He led the team in rushing. Joe Douglas 244 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: really nailed at two thousand twenty one draft class where 245 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: you probably could say the floor is it's a good class. 246 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Now if Wilson takes the next step, this potentially could 247 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: be an excellent, great class. Yeah, Olive very Tucker obviously 248 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: with great Guarden All Rookie Team and a player that 249 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: he moved up from twenty three to fourteen to get. 250 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: And I remember when that trade took place. They left 251 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: ahead of New England. I'm not mistaken in fifteen and 252 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, when you leap ahead of a team, 253 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: when you when you make a trade up, and you're like, oh, 254 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: they must be leaping ahead of the teams on the 255 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: clock next now didn't seem you know, New England. I 256 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: don't think that Jets obviously weren't trained up for quarterbacks. 257 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: So you're like, maybe the Jets forecasted that, whether it's 258 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: somebody at sixteens, haventeen or eighteen that like, you can't 259 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: wait any longer and you gotta find someone to trade 260 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: up with. So um, the draft class was strong. It 261 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that it was a good one. And 262 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: then what do unique opportunity to have this year four 263 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: picks in the top thirty eight and you know, two 264 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: in the top ten. I don't know how often we 265 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: see that. Obviously we have the Giants and that boat 266 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: as well. Very unique circumstances, especially both teams in New York. 267 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Right say it's an all New York draft to begin, 268 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: it feels like we should throw the draft back at 269 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Radio City Music. But yeah, this seems like a pivotal 270 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: year for them to take a big leap. I think 271 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: there's opportunity to do exactly that. Um so you mentioned 272 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: the draft capital. Yep, two picks in the top ten, 273 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: you've got number four. Overall, you've got number ten, you 274 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: have four picks in the top thirty eight. What do 275 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: you make from a macro level of this draft class? 276 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: But these people are saying it feels a little bit 277 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: different up top, but the value is really gonna be 278 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: there in the second, third, and fourth round. Yeah, that 279 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: that's true. And I think that, and I think that 280 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: it's important to be honest with assessments about the draft 281 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: because it's not personal. It's just it's a statement of fact. 282 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: And this is a good year to not need to 283 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: quarterback if you're picking at the top, and the Jets 284 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: obviously don't need one of those, right, So if you're 285 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: a team is out of top ten that needs a quarterback, 286 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: like this may not be the draft where you're looking 287 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: to define one because it just doesn't. Last year, there 288 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: are five quarterbacks taking in the top fifteen, and I 289 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: think if you went back and did this draft over 290 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: last year, I think all five of them are going 291 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: in at least top fifteen. Right, if not top ten? Right? 292 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: Um so, and and there will probably be a quarterback 293 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: or two or maybe even three from this year's class 294 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: that are all pretty good players. But we have seen 295 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: examples where you know, the parallel has been drawn in 296 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: that draft class. Um, the years I'll blend together at 297 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: this point, don't they The year which ej. Manuel was 298 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: the first place taken went to the Bills in the 299 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: middle of the first round, and everybody kind of said, like, 300 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: this is not a great first round for quarterbacks. And 301 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: that was the case. It wasn't you know that would 302 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: end up being a draft that is not to not 303 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: produce a guy that was, you know, a five or 304 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: eight or ten year starter. And that's that's okay. These 305 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: drafts to exist. Um, it's a great draft of pass rushers. 306 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: I think it's a that there's some interesting, unique impact 307 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: players in that top ten that maybe, like safety is 308 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily this group that's chocked full of you know, 309 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: fur first round picks, but there's one that's kind of 310 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: a unicorn. And Kyle Hamilton's listen, a lot of Jets 311 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: fans get nervous when you say safety out there, But 312 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: why is that guy's special player? And how could he 313 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: be a good fit potentially in this defail. I'm not 314 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: saying that we need to totally get rid of the 315 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: idea of drafting every position in the top five and 316 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: having it be like a flawed profession. Um. Sometimes it's 317 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: it's just the right thing. As a matter of fact, 318 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: I remember my first year with the Kansas City Chiefs 319 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: and I was working as a scouting grunt. Basically, we 320 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: had the fifth overall pick in the draft, and it 321 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: was the first year that Scott be always a general manager, 322 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: and people are trying to use past before our past 323 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: behavior to sort of predict future behavior. And there's no 324 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: way Scott pio All, who came from the Patriots, They've 325 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: never taken a safety that high, and you just generally 326 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: don't see that a safety going that high. In the 327 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: fifth paid, we end up taking on Eric Barry, who 328 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: went on to become, you know, one of the most 329 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: coveted rookies right away, was an impact play well maybe 330 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: our best, you know, one of our best defensive players 331 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: from the moment he arrived, changed our defense, went on 332 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: to sign a massive extension, was one of the highest 333 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: paid safeties ever. I think he may have actually been 334 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: the highest paid safety at the time he got his 335 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: long term deal, and so like, yeah, like there is 336 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: evidence that you can go and find that unique peace. 337 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: And I think the safety spot in the NFL today 338 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: is important for a lot of reasons. It always is, 339 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: but it's important because we are seeing some of the 340 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: tight end. Like we're seeing not a ton, but we're 341 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: seeing you know, it's not just sort of Travis Kelsey 342 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: and everybody else. You've got Travis Kelsey, You've got George Kid, 343 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: You've got Mark Andrews, You've got Darren Waller, You've got 344 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: some of these pieces in the middle of the field 345 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: that if you can't let me thinking about the division 346 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: you play, and as of right now, at least you've 347 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: got Mike Kasiki and Miamis could be a free agent 348 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: but still uh could be franchise tagged. Dawson Knox really 349 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: good young player for the Bills. Patriots tight in child 350 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: totally Hunter Henry had exceptional season for the Patriots. Like 351 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have a guy in the middle of the 352 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: field that can help you to turn those guys a 353 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: little bit. And Kyle Hambleton's six four pounds And I'm 354 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: saying that before he's actually officially waited at the combine, 355 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: so if he comes in at six three and a half. 356 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: But um, there's would be one play every year. There's 357 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: a couple of prospects we have, Like a play that 358 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: shines through is like the one you see fifty times 359 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: uh in the pre draft process, and I think you'll 360 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: see the play from Kyle Hamilton's. It was one of 361 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: the first games of Florida State where he must run 362 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: forty yards Laterally, I mean, it's one of those plays 363 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: where it almost felt like he heard the play call 364 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: and couldn't give up the fact that he was going 365 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: to be moving to where the ball was thrown. But 366 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: just a sort of a master class in timing and 367 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: anticipation and instincts and athletic ability. And so I think 368 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: you'll see that play run over and over and over again. 369 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: It's just a reminder that not too many players, if 370 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: any of his size, in this class, can move like 371 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: he does, so really unique guy. Uh. If he's not 372 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: off the board at four, put it this way, I 373 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: would be surprised if he's still there. Pick ten, um, 374 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: assuming the medicals check out because you have a knee injury. 375 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: So assuming that's the case like he might be one 376 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: of those guys that if you bypass them at four 377 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: by ten, he'll be somebody else's first round pick. Jet's 378 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: got some really good value on Day three of the 379 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: draft with those defenders. Last year when you're talking about 380 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: Brandon Knuckles comes in from Kentucky, two interceptions, a lot 381 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: of pds. Bryce Hall really made a jump in his 382 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: second season. His next step is obviously to take the 383 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: ball away, but he was among the league leaders of 384 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: past defenses. You got Michael Carter, who's gonna fill that 385 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: nickel role for a long time here for the Jets. 386 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: He would figure. I wanted to ask you about one 387 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: of the top cornerbacks in this Dreft Sauce Gardener at 388 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: as Cincinnati, because I think at the end of this 389 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: week a lot of people are gonna be even talking 390 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: about him more. Really unique guy, extremely tall, long, athletic, 391 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: straight line speed is their confidence is through the roof. 392 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: He's a player that I think believes that he is 393 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: and I say this in a way that's like endearing, 394 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: like it's it's a positive that I think he believes 395 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: he's better than the player who opposite who's opposite of him. 396 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: In a good way. There's that swagger, there's that mindset, Um, 397 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: And normally I talk about how cornerbacks need to have 398 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: a short memory because you're gonna get burned every once 399 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: in a while. And you've got to be like a 400 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: batter who goes over three and then comes up with 401 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: the basis load on that fourth at bat and says, 402 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm hit the home run, right, you gotta be that 403 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: as a defensive back, Um, Sauceton have to worry about 404 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: that very much. In college, he did not allow a 405 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: touchdown as a primary defender. And coverage, which I know 406 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: some people will say those primary coverage stats could be 407 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: a little bit subjective, but the bottom line is that 408 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: if there were big plays let up by Cincinnati rarely 409 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: with Sauce Gardener around them, a lot of confidence, a 410 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: lot of swagger. Um. To my knowledge, no major red 411 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: flags coming into this week, so uh, nothing I'm aware 412 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: of that would make him um someone you don't expect 413 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: to see called very high very soon in the draft process. 414 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: So I diticipate he'll go very high. Um. He and 415 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley Jr. From LSU Are the two players that 416 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: are often regards the top two cornerbacks in this year's class. 417 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: So I think there's a chance that you'll see one 418 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: of those two as the first quarterback. And I think, 419 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: if I had to make a bet right now, would 420 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: be Sauce Gardener. But that's the beauty the next not 421 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: quite two months, but almost two months. How do you 422 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: separate some of these top offensive linemen? Ek Kuano out 423 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: of NC State, you got Evan Neil out of Labama, 424 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: and Charles Cross, a guy from Mississippi State is getting 425 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: a lot of love. Three hard to beat. Uh, these 426 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: three as a you know, a trio. The top um. 427 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Evan Neil is massive, He's got you know, he's we 428 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: don't see too Mey McKay back then level size players, 429 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: but he's not quite as is physically imposing his macay 430 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: back but not that far off. He's six ft again, 431 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: these are all pre pre combine measures, but six seven, 432 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: three fifty. He's a just a behemoth. Uh moves freakishly, 433 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: just crazy movement for a guy that should probably not 434 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: I don't even know how he does half the stuff 435 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: that he doesn't. One you're showing him he's doing a 436 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: split squad or something. Yeah, he's impressive, so very good athlete, 437 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: played three different visions in college, started three different spots 438 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: each of his years at Alabama, so he's got versatility. 439 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: Ikey Kwanu from North Carolina State is a bully, and 440 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean that in a good way. Just wants to 441 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: knock the snot out of He had just an incredible 442 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: rise over the past couple of years at NC State. 443 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: Really unique story. Brother twin brother played it, plays it 444 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: notre dame. Uh father was a basketball player six ft six. 445 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: He's a doctor now. So uh, the kids got the athlete, 446 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the size and and and some of the smarts as 447 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: well from their dad, which is pretty cool. Neat family. 448 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: They've got um. But just I think he wants to 449 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: take your soul, not just you predict his quarterback and 450 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: then Charles Cross. It's just one of those where it's 451 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: just sort of clean. It's just kinda not a lot 452 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: of negative plays on tape. He's outstanding in past protection, 453 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: maybe the best in the group in terms of past protection. 454 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: Played in a unique offense. May I throw the ball 455 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: million times a year Mississippi State. So and it's it's 456 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: a lot of it is empty. It's not like you're 457 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: getting help from the running back. You're not getting a 458 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: chair from the tight end. It's you, and it's only you, 459 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: and UM really super impressed by all three of them. 460 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: I am holding back on assessing exactly how I think 461 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: they stag up one to three. I think that right now, 462 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: because there's a lot left. I think probably general consensus 463 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: is that you've got to Key Kwanu and and Evan 464 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Neil and like t Er one. Charles Cross might be 465 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: like Tier one and a half, but three good guys 466 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: that UM wouldn't surprise me if the just side to 467 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: go if they decided to use one of those two 468 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: picks on the un offensive tackle, I'd imagine that one 469 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: of those three would be one of them. And And 470 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: speaking of first draft, mL Kiper has the Jets sticking 471 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Lindon Mom out of Iowa with that tenth overall selection. 472 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: He's gonna crush this combine. B is just an absolute 473 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: freak athlete. Planet at Iowa best center in the country 474 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: in this past year Rimington winner, Which best center in 475 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: the country is? Where did that? He just sort of 476 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: checks all the boxes, good size, unbelievable athletes, got a 477 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: wrestling background, tough. Iowa's had a million offensive lineman come 478 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: through the league, he'll be the one million and one 479 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: one one million first would be one million first offensive lineman. Um, solid, 480 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: no nonsense, tough, young you know, true Church Jr. Coming out. 481 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna have to wait long. And 482 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I know that. Uh, you know, some people think that 483 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: the interior offensive linemen. You can debate the merits of 484 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: using a top ten pick on that. It's almost like 485 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: the safety position that you just covered before. Like a 486 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: lot of people say you can't take it center early. 487 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: I say why not. I mean, I'm not saying for 488 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: the Jets. I'm just saying for any team. If you 489 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: like that prospect here, you take them. Yeah. So I 490 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: mean listen of the Jets us a fourteenth overall pick 491 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: on a guard last year. How did they feel? But 492 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: you know how think a BT has been one of 493 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: the best players in the roster already, right, So, um, 494 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: if you're convicted, it's worth it. So Lindar Bomb I 495 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: think will be in early. He will hear his name 496 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: early as well. Win bet is not live in New 497 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Jersey and they're bringing the excitement of win Las Vegas 498 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: to online sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams, 499 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: players and sports from boostep partlays to live in game 500 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: odds on every major sport. They have what you'll need 501 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: to win. 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But 511 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: everybody's talking about the depth which we saw down in Mobile, Alabama. 512 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: The Jets had the good fortune of coaching the national 513 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: team down there and there were a lot of guys 514 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: who pop. But you're gonna get even uh more of 515 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: that group here in Indianapolis. Great group has the makings 516 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: of a great group. I should say at the top, 517 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: you've got at least two that are really solid, Aidan Hutchinson, 518 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau, two guys that's just physically unique. Dominant college 519 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: Hutchinson's last season was spectacular from Michigan plays with an 520 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: edge to him, Thibodeau. You just don't find guys that 521 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: are as wiry and athletic as he is, so really 522 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: good edge class. But it goes beyond just those two players. 523 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: David a Jabo, teammate of Aidan Hutchinson and Michigan, a 524 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: really good player as well in his own right. So 525 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have all George carloftas from Purdue sort of 526 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a wider range in terms of 527 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: opinions right now. But another big ten pass rusher that's 528 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: really really good God actually in the big tattle all 529 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: as well, Arnoad Piquette who played at Penn State. Kid 530 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: from Maryland originally high school. Uh, he is another productive 531 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: you know he ceose Penn State. Pass rushers come every 532 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: you know year or two. There's there's at least one 533 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: of that we're talking about. So wouldn't surprise me if 534 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: we have five, six, maybe seven pass rushers in the 535 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: first thirty five picks. Really good class for that. And uh, 536 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know a team in the NFL. I can't 537 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: think of one off top my head to cannot use 538 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: more depth of pass rusher and Jeremaine Johnson included in 539 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: the mix. And he's a guy who practiced twice in 540 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: mobile and said I'm good at this point, and he 541 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: might have been that. He might have been the bust 542 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: overall players down there, phenomenal you i'men a week for him, 543 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: alorid the state stand out unique athlete and they've had 544 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: a lot of those as well too, right, So wouldn't 545 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: be surprised if he's amongst those five, six, seven guys 546 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: that go in the first thirty or thirty five picks. 547 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: So what's your off season looking like a lot of 548 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: family diapers? Yeah, diaper changing and that's about as far 549 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: as I'll go. Yeah, free agencies around the corner here. 550 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: So no, uh draft, you know, first draft takes care 551 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: of my week for chunk of its and just do 552 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: my best to stay on top while these prospects. You're 553 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: doing an awesome job. I just wanted to end with this. 554 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: What do you think about the alignment with Joe douglas 555 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: and Robert Sala? Now this is Joe douglas Is third draft, 556 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: but it feels more like the second year, doesn't it. 557 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: Because Robert Sala was hired last January. Yeah, I thought 558 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: she going back. I know that we're very much on two. 559 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: But one of the things I liked about the process 560 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: last year was that, to my knowledge, and you can 561 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: correct me if I've totally missed this up messes up 562 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: for a year, is that, like it really wasn't a 563 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: connection between Robert and Joe's. This is just an authentic search. 564 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: It's I'm going out there to find the person that 565 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: I believe is the best coach for the Jets going forward. 566 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that familiarity is bad. I think 567 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: it's very useful. But in the league where so frequently 568 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: the head coach and GM have this long standing previous relationship, um, 569 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: sometimes it's good to have two people that come from 570 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: different minds and different backgrounds. Joe and Robert are gonna 571 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: learn on the fly together, learn more about each other. 572 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: But I would say, speaking generally, Joe did a good 573 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: job of finding young talent in touched with the draft class. 574 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: And then I thought that the improvement of the offensive 575 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: line got much better from the start to the finish 576 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: of last year. At the secondary got much better from 577 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: the start to the finish of last year. Zack Wilson 578 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: got much better for start to finish last year. Like 579 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: that's a that's a coaching right, that's that's you got 580 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: the right people in place coaching them up. And uh 581 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: just didn't have a lot if any coaches have attricition 582 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: this offseason. So you've got the same people for the 583 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: most part guiding that growth. From whether we want to 584 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: call this year two together year two and a half 585 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: or Joe Douglas and year two for Robert sala Field 586 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Yates crushing it all is always we appreciate you stop 587 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: and by uh should we unt with the gunning report 588 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: from your Wesleyan days? Uh? Slow, un athletic. I was 589 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: a great cheerleader from the bench. Um anything else that 590 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: stands up, No, not really. I think I might have 591 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: had a special team's tackle or two. It's about it 592 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: blind begger and a safety in college after a livebacker 593 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: t I did in high school. Um, I h inglorious, 594 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: inglorious careers I would describe it. But it's a valuable 595 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: part of my life. To be a part of team 596 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: is one of both said. So I appreciate your right 597 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: back to you. Thank you having on