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Speaker 1: almost forty games he has not won any of them,

427
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people have talked about and listen,

428
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: it's true. It's his passing game is pretty unique. It's

429
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: directly correlated and tied to the running game. They go

430
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Speaker 1: hand in hand. He does not. I mean, he has

431
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Speaker 1: plays where the quarterback can be in the shotgun, you

432
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: can spread him out, but that is not how he

433
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: wants to coach, and that is not how they practice

434
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: or game plan throughout the week. So when they get

435
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: find themselves down ten points with seven minutes to go,

436
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 1: they can't just go Mahomes or Josh Allen because of

437
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: the play caller. It's not because of their players in

438
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: the sense of their skill guys now, offensive linemen wise,

439
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: they're not great at right tackle. And if you have

440
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: a good edge rusher, which I'm not sure the Packers do,

441
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: but the Lions do, and if they get into a

442
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: situation a tie game where they got a pass like

443
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson has a huge advantage over Colton mckivitt's, right.

444
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the Niners have one really good offensive lineman

445
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: who's an all time star, and a lot of other

446
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: guys that you could easily replace, and no one would notice.

447
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: That is the weakness of the team. Right They're good

448
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: at basically every other position. If they're healthy at d line,

449
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: they'll stop the run find but their center through right

450
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: tackle is average. It best for league standers. Now, I've

451
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: said this forever about teams that complain about their second corner.

452
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: Most teams don't have four sweet DBAs. The problem for

453
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles is like they're two starting dbs right now

454
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: are not good. So if you have one good starting

455
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Speaker 1: corner and you can rotate the other guys like you

456
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: can figure it out, especially if you've got a good

457
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: defensive linemen some good linebackers, like you can manipulate. Most

458
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: teams are not perfect in two thousand and twenty four,

459
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: and they never will be again because of the salary cap.

460
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: But this team, relative to the league a lot like

461
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: the Ravens, is about as close to perfect as you

462
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: can get. It's really good as impact players at basically

463
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Speaker 1: every level offense and defense. Now, one downfall for Kyle

464
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: which he's had in these other playoff games, which he's

465
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 1: benefited from, was having Robbie Gold, who was a very,

466
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: very reliable kicker. It didn't feel like you watched him.

467
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: He was a really good player, but he made it

468
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: when he had to constantly, and he hit game winning

469
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: field goals several times for the forty nine ers, including

470
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Speaker 1: in playoff games against the Green Bay Packers. Their kicker

471
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Speaker 1: who was It was a huge controversy in forty nine

472
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Speaker 1: er Land, and I think league wide whenever you draft

473
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Speaker 1: a kicker really high and they drafted the guy in

474
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Speaker 1: the third round. My ultimate take was, listen, once you

475
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Speaker 1: get past like pick one hundred, I'm not gonna freak

476
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: out who you take. But if you take a kicker

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Speaker 1: or punter on the second day of the draft, because

478
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Speaker 1: you can we see all sorts of teams take every

479
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Speaker 1: position on the second day of the draft, and those

480
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: guys stink. Those guys get caught within a couple of years,

481
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Speaker 1: those guys get traded. There is no guarantee, literally, there's

482
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Speaker 1: no guarantee it. Pick one let alone in the third

483
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Speaker 1: round but if you are gonna take a kicker in

484
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Speaker 1: the third round, because historically speaking, most kickers are like

485
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: six rounders two undrafted free agents, so you historically don't

486
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Speaker 1: have to invest the resources. I'd say, no different than

487
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Speaker 1: a guard or a center. If you're gonna take him high,

488
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: he better be an impact player. Listen. I fundamentally agree

489
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Speaker 1: with most people that taking a running back in the

490
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: first round is not great business. But if he looks

491
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Speaker 1: like Jamiir Gibbs, I'm cool with it, especially if Jamiir

492
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Gibbs also brings me Sam Laporta, Like, I ain't gonna

493
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: argue the pressure's on to me, it's on Purdy to

494
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: like people would be out lined up to crush him

495
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: if he has a bad game and it costs to

496
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. But I also think Kyle Shanahan, who

497
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Speaker 1: has is on much more stable footing. I mean, he's

498
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Speaker 1: under a long term contract. Obviously the forty nine ers

499
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: want him to go nowhere, and he's gonna be the

500
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Speaker 1: coach for the forty nine ers for a long period

501
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: of time. But like, this is about as good of

502
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: opportunity as you can get, right, even the two you know,

503
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: the three best quarterbacks in the AFC. You're gonna face

504
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: one of them, Mahomes, Allen or Lamar, and Lamar clearly

505
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: has the best team, but the Bill's pretty flawed. They

506
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: have a ton of injuries on defense, and obviously this

507
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: is the worst Chiefs team. It's all relative, but to

508
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahomes era, and listen, you're gonna be You

509
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: are a double digit favorite against the Packers. You've owned

510
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur in the playoffs, You've knocked him out twice,

511
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: you kicked his ass in the AFC Championship game, and

512
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: you upset him at home, and you're a double digit

513
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: favorite for a reason. You should win this game and

514
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: then even the following week if we assume the Lions

515
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks. I don't know if you saw but

516
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: a reporter it sounded probably like a news lady as

517
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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles what he doing to get rid of ready

518
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: for the frigid temperatures in Detroit. And Todd's pretty understated guy.

519
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: He wasn't really even a dick about it, but he's

520
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: like a you know, they play in a dome, right.

521
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: It was pretty embarrassing for the lady. They didn't really

522
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: show her, but yeah, not a great If you're gonna

523
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: go to an NFL press conference and ask a question

524
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: about the weather, probably should know if the team plays

525
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: in a dome or an outdoor setting. But yeah, man,

526
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine ers this is this is

527
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl or bust, and anything less will be absolutely

528
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: devastating for the head coach and the quarterback, but definitely

529
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback for his status on the team. And I

530
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: think with the coach is like, is this guy ever

531
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna win one? Is this guy ever gonna win one?

532
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we start doing that too soon

533
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: on guys. I think it's fair, especially when you look

534
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: at the landscape of the NFL. Who he's got to beat.

535
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys that we view him

536
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: as equal to have won super Bowls. Okay, like most people,

537
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: wrapped up the day, take the dog for a walk.

538
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: My phone starts blowing up, bing bing bing bing. Look

539
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: McCarthy's coming back. McCarthy's returning. Go to the old Instagram schefter.

540
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: First thing I see McCarthy will return in twenty twenty four.

541
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: First and foremost, I think that's the wrong decision. Like

542
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches, we've seen it with Pete Carroll.

543
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: We see the weirdness going on with Mike Tomlin. Mike

544
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: McCarthy is a good coach. It can't be argued. He

545
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: has won twelve games three straight years and they've won

546
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: the division and hosted a playoff game in two of those.

547
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: The problem is, at this point in time, not only

548
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: in his career, but the Cowboys operation, it's only about

549
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You are strictly judged on what you do

550
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: in January against Shanahan, against McVeigh, now the emerging Packers. Right, So,

551
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: for the last three years, I've seen you against two coaches, right,

552
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan twice and now the floor with love beat you.

553
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: So to me, if I'm Jerry, I understand this. It

554
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't be an easy decision despite them just getting their asking.

555
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I get how it's easy to justify one. There's a

556
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: human element of this, and Jerry, in a weird way,

557
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: for this gun slinging businessman, has proven to be pretty loyal. Right,

558
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: was very loyal to Jason Garrett because he liked him

559
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot and clearly likes Mike a lot personally, and

560
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: in fairness to like, why does he like him personally?

561
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: He's helped them be pretty successful. Right, They've won a

562
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of regular season games. I just don't know in

563
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at Jerry's age, and I understand not

564
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: wanting to make a big change, learn a new coach's lingo,

565
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: go get Belichick and have to deal with it. You

566
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: know what you have in McCarthy. But isn't that part

567
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: of the problem because in the biggest moments, it just

568
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: hasn't gone well two years ago against that, Like their

569
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: best playoff game in the last three years was last

570
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: year on the road against the forty nine ers, where

571
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: they gave Brock Purdy, Kyle Shanahan the forty nine ers

572
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: everything they could handle. Two years ago at home, the

573
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: score will tell you the game was close. I thought

574
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: they got worked. If it wasn't for a Jimmy Garoppolo

575
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: picked six. I think it was a pick six, definitely

576
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: a bad pick that led to a touchdown. They were

577
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: getting worked. And then this year one of the all

578
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: time embarrassments. So ultimately with a coach, I think you asked,

579
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: like we do with a quarterback, and we'll get to

580
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: Dak in a second. Can I win a Super Bowl

581
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: with this guy? Now he's won a Super Bowl before

582
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: young Aaron Rodgers. They got hot despite a bunch of

583
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: injuries and won it. And then later on as the

584
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: years went they had better teams. They had better teams,

585
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: and they blew it consistently in the playoffs. The one

586
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: game that sticks out to me all these years later

587
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: is a game against Seattle that the Packers had no

588
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: business losing, and they lost. So when you go to

589
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: sleep at night, if you're a Packer fan, if you're

590
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Jerry or Steven or anyone in the operation not on

591
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, you go, are we ever gonna win

592
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: the big games? Because, yeah, he can win some big

593
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: regular season games. He can win us twelve thirteen games

594
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: and have us competing for the number one seed. But

595
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: it's no longer about that. It's about an organization that

596
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: hasn't been despite going to the playoffs a ton of times.

597
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, people get so worked up, like why does

598
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: everyone talk to Cowboys? Which I understand, like why is

599
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: everyone talking the Warriors right now? They legitimately suck, right,

600
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: but their brand, they're important to the league. Same thing

601
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: with the Yankees when they have a down season, Well,

602
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: they're the biggest brand. The Cowboys, like they've backed up

603
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: quote unquote their popularity with winning that they have been good,

604
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: but it isn't the whole point, like can I win

605
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: a super Bowl with this guy and despite a guy

606
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: with a ring? I think the question is or is

607
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: answered no, No. I mean they've been bounced twice in

608
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the last three years in the first round. And last year,

609
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: let's face it, they played a Bucks team who was

610
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: in freaking shambles. Tom Brady was already won two to

611
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: three can Coon and they kicked their ass and Dak

612
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: played you could argue, the best game of his career.

613
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: And I think part of this and I pushed back

614
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: when Coward, you know, thought the Jerry would refuse to

615
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: move off Dak or even entertain it, and he would

616
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: extend him. And I think it shows you he was right.

617
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: They're going to extend him. Part of keeping McCarthy is

618
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: keeping the status quo Dak Prescott in his fifty whatever

619
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 1: nine million dollar cap hit because in the last year

620
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: of his contract is going to get a contract extension.

621
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: And you could argue because if I wanted to defend

622
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, if I was his kid, if I was

623
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: his agent, if I was just his Buddy, I'd go,

624
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: do you think Mike was throwing those passes? Look what

625
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Mike has done for Dak. He's played really well. He's

626
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: played really well over stretches of the last three years

627
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: and especially this season. But that meltdown isn't that much

628
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: on the human in the individual, Like we got that

629
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: way with James Harden, where we start all acknowledging like

630
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: it ain't the coach of the team's fault. He just implodes.

631
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: And now we have evidence for Dak like he just

632
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: constantly throws the ball to the other team in the playoffs,

633
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: five picks last three games, and those two picks, I mean,

634
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: this was the worst, even worse than two years ago

635
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: in twenty one. I mean, hit a guy in stride

636
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: for the pick six, threw another awful pick to Jayira

637
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Alexander that wasn't even close to Cooks. And let's face it,

638
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: there were a couple more balls that easily could have

639
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: been intercepted. He was That first half was got awful.

640
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: And if it happens in October and November, no big deal.

641
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: But this is the NFL playoffs, this is the NCAA tournament.

642
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: You're one and done. You don't survive. You ain't advancing,

643
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: This ain't seven games, You're not playing a five game series.

644
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: So to me, this shows Dak Prescott's gonna continue to

645
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: be their quarterback. Now I understand internally like how do

646
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: we upgrade? But I've said this over and over and

647
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: over again. If that's your mindset in life, in business,

648
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: you are going to get lapped. Just because you stay

649
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: in the slow lane and don't get in the fast

650
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: lane doesn't mean that you're not gonna get into a

651
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: car crash. So not acknowledging like we got to take

652
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: a bigger swing, we need a change to make that

653
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: next step. We're gonna stay with the status quote is

654
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: not working, not even arguable, it is not working. Kudos

655
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: to Seattle that like easily could have justified Pete Carroll

656
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: still a solid coach, We're still very competitive, made the

657
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: playoffs last year, won nine games again this year. A

658
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: bad bounce here, a bad interception here, we could have

659
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: been an eleven win team. I'd argue probably closer to

660
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: a seven win team. But it's easy to justify internally

661
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: in a building we're closer than we think they are.

662
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: And obviously the Cowboys have some good impact young players.

663
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: You know, Parsons who kind of disappeared, is a really

664
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: good player. Ceedee Lamb is a stud Ferguson looks good

665
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: like we like a lot some of their young offensive linemen.

666
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: But I how could you watch that game? Even if

667
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: they often say right when something emotional happens, take a day,

668
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: take a couple of days, take a step back, take

669
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: a deep breath, and come to the conclusion like, yeah,

670
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: we're really close. You're not even remotely close. And I

671
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: think it starts with their infatuation, which I thought would

672
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: eventually just like listen, maybe he's not good enough and

673
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: force you to pivot. But clearly that's not the case.

674
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott not only is going to be their quarterback

675
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: next year with Mike McCarthy. To me, they're gonna give

676
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: him a contract extension. And let's face it, when you've

677
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: been making forty million dollars and you just you know,

678
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: are one of the better quarterbacks in the conference and

679
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: throw thirty five plus touchdowns, you're not taking a pay cut.

680
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: So how much money is this contract extension gonna be? Now,

681
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: when you give a guy an extension, you can manipulate

682
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: the books so his cap hit next year could be dramatically,

683
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: so it could be like seven million dollars, ten million

684
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: dollars Jalen hurts these next couple of years is nothing.

685
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: So it actually helps you in the short term, but

686
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: you are stuck and connected with that player. So McCarthy

687
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: entering next year on the hot seat like he's coming

688
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: in to the season honestly, no different than Eberflus, like

689
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: if you started slow three and three, like is it

690
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: time for a change? This is a mistake. And I

691
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: think anytime that you question when a guy is entering

692
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: a season that you know there's a if it doesn't

693
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: go well, like really really well, something that hasn't gone

694
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: well for the Cowboys in twenty five years, that guy

695
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: is gonna get fired. I would say ninety eight percent

696
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: of the time. Is the wrong decision. Happened with John

697
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: Harbaugh the year they drafted Lamar Jackson and they bench

698
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: Flacco and they went to Lamar to change John Harbaugh's career.

699
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: So unless they're drafting a quarterback and Dak were to

700
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: get hurt and that guy gets inserted and he changes

701
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: the trajectory of McCarthy's career, I think it's easy to

702
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: see the way. This is going to end the same

703
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: way it's ended the last years, which eighty five percent

704
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: of the NFL would die. Twelve wins home playoff games.

705
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: We're cool with that. The Cowboys are no longer cool

706
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: with that, because if they don't win some playoff games,

707
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: it's a complete failure this year, complete and utter failure

708
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: for the expectations for I mean, they're seven and a

709
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: half point favorite against a guy who's making his first

710
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: year as a starter in the NFL, playing the youngest

711
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: team in the NFL, playing a bunch of guys that

712
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: were first and second year players on the Green Bay Packers,

713
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: against a team. Here's the other thing. You're an offensive coach.

714
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: You have a quarterback that's thirty years old, that's eight

715
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: nine years into his career, who's playing well. You're playing

716
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: a defense that statistically is an abomination, is awful by

717
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: basically every metric, especially passing the ball, and for you

718
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: to struggle to be down twenty seven to seven, be like, listen,

719
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: your defense having a shitty day. I think some Cowboys,

720
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, our defense is not that has hyped up

721
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: to be. Dan Quinn a little overrated, which we could

722
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: argue that another day. But offensively, Okay, we're gonna need

723
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: to do a shootout today. We might need to win

724
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: this game forty five to forty. Well, buckle up, guys,

725
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: And they couldn't even sniff that. So Mike McCarthy and

726
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: that team showing up to that game, I think sometimes

727
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: and I'll get back to the brand stuff with the Lakers,

728
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: with the Yankees. You know, it gets over talked about.

729
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't think this is I don't think you can

730
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: overstate and continue to talk about what we witnessed enough.

731
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: And that's no slight on the Packers because they've been

732
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: an incredible story. But to that whatever that final score

733
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: was forty five to thirty two or whatever, give me

734
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: a break. We'll get to Fugazi Friday, because that's a

735
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: fake final score. That game felt if you watched it

736
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: like that seventy to twenty Miami Denver Bronco game, that's

737
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: what we all witnessed because in that first half it

738
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: felt like forty to nothing. That felt like a complete

739
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: and utter blowout. And then he throws the pick six.

740
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: It was just on like Donkey Kong. So listen, I

741
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: understand older guys don't want to change, no different with

742
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Jerry and Jason Garrett. He wanted that to work so bad.

743
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: He does not want to go on a coaching search

744
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: even if it's pretty clear that you know, there are

745
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: some clear candidates that the search wouldn't be that wide.

746
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean it would be between two and three guys.

747
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: Maybe they had some conversations with Bill, maybe they sniffed around,

748
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: Maybe they realized it wouldn't work. Now, obviously Belichick to

749
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, which I wanted to see. I'm sure a

750
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: lot of people wanted to see. It just would be

751
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: a fascinating NFL situation. It'd be a fascinating case study

752
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: in Belichick and Jerry and could he get him over

753
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: the hump? Could he just get him to the NFC

754
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Championship game? Is not on the table? And I think

755
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: the clock now now they had an extra day between

756
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: games because they played on Monday night, is on the Eagles?

757
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: When does the Schefter report come out? The Eagles are

758
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: sticky or they're pivoting off, Sirianni. If I remember correctly,

759
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: it took a couple of days for Doug Peterson. What

760
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: do you think's happening with McCarthy and Jerry and Steven?

761
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: They met for the last couple of days. What do

762
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: you think is happening with Sirianne, Jeffrey Leary, and Howie

763
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: They're all meeting, so how are those conversations? Could remember

764
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: the conversation around Doug came out. They just realized this

765
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: was not a sustainable, you know, environment for everybody. They

766
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: weren't on the same page, Sirianni. Because Doug had won

767
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, he knows fire me, I will get

768
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: another job, and he, inevitably a year later, got the

769
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: jack's job that had the number one pick with I mean,

770
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: Trevor was already on the team. But Sirianni, if he

771
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: got fired, unlike Doug, he ain't getting a job in

772
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: a year, not a head coaching jobs, even getting an

773
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator job. That was the weird spot for Mike right.

774
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: If McCarthy had gotten fired, It's not like he's a

775
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: village idiot. He'd be like, you see my residence. What

776
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: I did with the Cowboys. I know I lost some

777
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: playoff games, but how many teep like the Raiders. You

778
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't want me to be your head coach the Atlanta Falcons,

779
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want me to be your head coach. Now,

780
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: I think a lot the the initial reaction would be

781
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: McCarthy unhirable relative to who, right, relative to like Belichick? Okay, right?

782
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: Relative You could say some other guys around the league,

783
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: you'd rather have McVeigh or Kyle or whatever. But like

784
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, if they don't get Belichick, wouldn't want

785
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. You could argue he'd get a job potentially

786
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: really really fast. I mean, he would have gotten rehired.

787
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: So I think that's a huge domino. I mean it's

788
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: a big story. It's crazy how big this story is

789
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: because I think we all at least a large percentage.

790
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there were some people that are like, there,

791
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: he's not they're not gonna fire him. I just assumed,

792
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: and I clearly assumed wrong. It's why they say, you know,

793
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: don't assume, you make an ass out of you and me.

794
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: So McCarthy returns. Jerry Jones, Dak Prescott and McCarthy buckle

795
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: up because this isn't going away unless they start slower,

796
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: lose next year, and then clearly he's done. Speaking of

797
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs, the Patriots fired a guy that won

798
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: them six and took them to three others, and like

799
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: with Nick Saban, I mean retired, one was fired. It's

800
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: impossible to replace those guys. Kaylan Dubor could be a

801
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: home run higher for Alabama and you'd put the over

802
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: under championships. He's gonna win in the next ten years

803
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: at like one and a half, right, Drod Mayo could

804
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: be awesome for the Patriots, and that could just mean

805
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: get finding a real quarterback and making the playoffs like

806
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: for the next five years and winning a couple of

807
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: playoff games. Might never win a championship, history would say

808
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: probably won't. I do think replacing what Alabama ended up

809
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 1: doing is actually an easier transition. You get a guy

810
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: who you know is good but is not directly correlated

811
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: to the legend, because anytime you're directly correlated to the legend,

812
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: it's like you're an extension of him. And then when

813
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't go even close to just going well, it

814
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: feels worse. And I think Kayln Dubor kind of gets

815
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: a fresh start, kind of can be himself. Obviously has

816
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: no ties to Nick Saban, so he doesn't even know

817
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: what went on in that building beside like talking a

818
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: Nick or talking to the players, but his coaching philosophical

819
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: beliefs were not driven and created by the guy he's replacing.

820
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot and follow Droid Mayo's career

821
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: as a player, and watched a bunch of YouTube videos

822
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: on him just talking when he was out of football

823
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: after being a player. The way other players talk about him,

824
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: there is no disputing that Gerrod Mayo is a super

825
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: high level, high character, smart fucking dude. Right, He's clearly

826
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: in the cloth of the former players who were good players, Vrabel,

827
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Demiko that went on to be coaches, smart guys, really

828
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: good football players, team captains early on in their career.

829
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Just kind of like you would invest in that guy, Like,

830
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: what does that guy want to do? You know, when

831
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: he's done playing, he wants to run a finance company.

832
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: When this guy's done playing, he wants to go make movies.

833
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: When this guy's done playing, he wants to start a restaurant. Change.

834
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: You'd be like, can I invest in them? Like, that's

835
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: drawd Mail, that's Demiko Ryans, that's Mike Raber. They just

836
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: choose they love football so much they want to coach.

837
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: I do think replacing Belichick, And let's face it, this

838
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: replacement was set and sown last year when he signed

839
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: the contract has been reported on, but it's clear why

840
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: he was hired twenty four to forty eight hours after

841
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: that it became official with Bill This was a done deal.

842
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: They knew Belichick was on the hot seat coming end

843
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: of the season. If they were gonna fire him or

844
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: force him out at the end of the year. This

845
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: was always gonna be the guy. There wasn't gonna be

846
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: no coaching search. I do you think it's pretty risky, though,

847
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: I really do. I understand from the craft standpoint, you've

848
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: lost coaches before that you felt good about hell that

849
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: happened with Belichick, But hiring a guy who's only worked

850
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: under this guy when it's been proven time and time again,

851
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: this is the only guy he's ever played for that

852
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: Belichick does not do a great job of teaching his

853
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. He just does not. It's why when they

854
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: go they don't like struggle, they historically fail. I mean,

855
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is the first coach in NFL history to

856
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: be fired twice before the end of year two. Matt

857
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: Patricia was a laughingstock. Joe Judge couldn't have been any worse.

858
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, who actually is a really good coach, clearly

859
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: good defensive coach, like doesn't understand like you kind of

860
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: gotta be nice to the quarterback, like you kind of

861
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: gotta figure out that relationship. So even Bill O'Brien at

862
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: the end, they couldn't run him out fast enough. And

863
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: he actually was pretty solid, but Bill was not like

864
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: a lifetime Belichick guy. Bill had worked other places. I

865
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: just think this is pretty risky and it puts a

866
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't blame Drod Mail for taking the job. I

867
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: don't blame Drod Mail for signing up to be the

868
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: coach in waiting, but it's gonna be very, very difficult

869
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: because the outside noise will get very very loud if

870
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: you just missed the playoffs a couple times, like this

871
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work, and then you will be forced to

872
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of go outside. If if he succeeds, I actually

873
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: think it's more difficult. I really do. Like if you

874
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: tell me, Kaylin Dubor makes the playoffs the next of

875
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: the five nine year or the next five years, which

876
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: he should, and just wins some playoff games, wins the

877
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: national championship is awesome, but like, yeah, I can see that.

878
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: If you told me Sark took over that job, I'd

879
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: be like, I could see this thing getting weird fast

880
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: because you're almost held to a higher standard cause you're

881
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: one of us. We know you, we expect you to

882
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: be I saw this clip that went viral on Instagram

883
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: of it might have been like twenty eleven or ten

884
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: or twelve. Had a bunch of Patriot guys and they

885
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: were asking, like if they wanted to get something done

886
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: with coach Belichick. They're like, this is Tom Brady. He's like,

887
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: you just go to Drod Belichick, who it seems like

888
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: Derwd Belichick's very tight with Steve Belichick. Feels like he's

889
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: one of the Belichicks. So I'm fascinated to watch this.

890
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: I just if I was a betting man. Now, listen,

891
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: I bet on Jordan Love Sucking. He looks like he's

892
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: gonna be a longtime answer at the position. So you

893
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: never know. But I just think this is gonna be very,

894
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: very difficult. I would I assumed Mark Davis was gonna

895
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: be very interested in Harbaugh. I don't know how interested

896
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: he would be in them. I thought he would have

897
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: a lot of interest, but all signs pointed if he

898
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: does come to the NFL, that he's gonna go to

899
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 1: the Chargers, which it might just be as simple as

900
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: they got a quarterback. He doesn't even have to worry

901
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: about it. He'll figure out everything else. It does feel

902
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: like they're gonna end up hiring Champ Kelly to be

903
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: the general manager and Antonio Pierce to be the head

904
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: coach a lot like girod Mayo. This feels very emotional.

905
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: You like these guys, you know. Uh. Max Crosby went on,

906
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: he's got a podcast and said basically like if they

907
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: don't hire Antonio Pierce, everything's on the table. AKA, I'm

908
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: the man in the trade I'd want out of here

909
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: and the player pressure. It honestly feels very NBA ish,

910
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: all the players who are good, Like Max Crosby is

911
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: an elite player, DeVante Adams is an elite player. They

912
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: clearly are staking their claim in this guy. And I

913
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: don't blame Mark Davis for being influenced by that. You're

914
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: gonna hire a guy who has not only never been

915
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: a head coach in college or the pros, has only

916
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: been wasn't even a coordinator for you. So you're going

917
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: on on this guy in a in a division that

918
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: has three coaches that are probably worth five hundred million

919
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: dollars when you really think about it, Like, what's Andy

920
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: Reid and Jim Harball really worth on the open market

921
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: a buck fifty each? If Sean Payton's worth ninety, what's

922
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: Andy Reid worth two hundred? You know, Jim Harbaugh, the

923
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: Michigan's ready to give him one hundred and forty million dollars.

924
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: What are the Chargers gonna have to pay him? Sean Payton,

925
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: who hadn't even like won that many playoff games in

926
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: recent memory, got ninety million dollars with ease, and they

927
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: had to give up a first round pick to get him. Now,

928
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: unlike the Chargers and unlike the Chiefs, we've got to

929
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: answer question marks with the Broncos at quarterback. But the

930
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: Raiders have no quarterback. They're not even remotely close. I mean,

931
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connell looks like I was bullish after the preseason,

932
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: but you know, probably a fringe backup quarterback. So they

933
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: got to get a quarter They also got to get

934
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: a coordinator's offensive league. I know, your defense looks solid

935
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: down the stretch and you beat the shit out of

936
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: a gutlass Brandon stay team. But I like Antonio piers

937
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: Half since he was a player. It's just it's gonna

938
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: be very, very hard, and I think you get in

939
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: this honeymoon phase everyone's happy. I think that's the thing

940
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: with the Crafts, right. Bill is a dick. He's just

941
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: not the nicest guy on a daily basis. He doesn't

942
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: kiss your rings. Obviously he's got rings too, but I

943
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: don't even mean. I just mean, like your money, your status.

944
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: On a daily basis, rich guys like to be have

945
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: their ego stroke and girod mao, just like Antonio. Peers

946
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: are gonna play that game like a lot of coaches do.

947
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: But Sean Payton doesn't on a daily basis. And he's

948
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: just a nice guy, but he's not going out of

949
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: his way every single day to make sure everyone just

950
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: feels good. And I think sometimes when you just want

951
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: to feel good as an owner, and uh, you know,

952
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: the Crafts definitely do. Mark's in this weird spot in

953
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: a perfect you know who Mark Davis would idea want

954
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: to hire? Do you want to hire John Grudenbach? I

955
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: just don't think that's He's currently suing the NFL in

956
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, which I actually think he's gonna win and

957
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: win a ton of money. But these two coaching hires

958
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: are gonna be really, really fascinating high level guys, right

959
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce Droud Mail, These are winning people. These are

960
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: guys as players, as team captains like you want around,

961
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: but coaching on a weekly basis, especially on a side

962
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: of the ball that you're just not going to know

963
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: that much about. And both teams are in desperate need

964
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. Easier for the Patriots because they draft

965
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: third overall. At the Raiders, you know, ended up winning

966
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: eight games. It's gonna be a little more difficult, but

967
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to watch it. And last, but

968
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: not at least, Mike Tomlin stormed out of the room

969
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: the other day, which I understand, like what it's not

970
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: doesn't want to answer the question he's going into the

971
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: last year of his contract. No coach in college of

972
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: the pro just coaches on the last year of his contract.

973
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: They're not a player. That's not how it works because

974
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: they're an authority figure. So if you're coaching on the

975
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 1: last year of contract, you're essentially saying, like this guy's

976
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: on the hot seat. So the Steelers now have one choice.

977
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: They're either extending Mike Tomlin or to me, you gotta

978
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: go your separate ways. You guys know where I stand

979
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: on this. I think Mike Tomlin should want to go

980
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: somewhere else. If I'm Mike Tomlin, I'd want to be

981
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: with Adam Peters in Washington. I'd be like, we just

982
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: get to reset the franchise. The bar is low. I'm

983
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: not even respected by the fans, and I understand what

984
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: the fans are coming for or you know, critical of them,

985
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: like what are we doing? Like where are we going?

986
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: That's how Kenny Pickett didn't speak to the media on

987
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: Locker clear Out Day. It's like, Kenny, I don't think

988
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: you get to act like you're Roethlisberger, Drew Brees or

989
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: fucking Philip Rivers. Here, buddy, you didn't play in that

990
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: playoff game if you were healthy, because the other guy

991
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: was just playing well. Like you're not good enough to

992
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: start acting up. And Colin's been talking about this, the

993
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: relationship between the organization and the university. They play at

994
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: the same stadium. It's kind of weird, but like the

995
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: moment you start acting like Kenny Pickett or Mac Jones,

996
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: and you have that level talent. It's if Josh Allen.

997
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: Let's say the Bills lose the Chiefs and they're embarrassed

998
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: and Josh storms out and doesn't talk to the medium,

999
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like Josh gets to do that, or Mahomes,

1000
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: Like Mahomes got to be an idiot the one game

1001
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: after the penalty and he went up to Josh and

1002
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: he was, you know, hooting and hollering like and even

1003
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: he apologized the next day. But like, I give him

1004
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: a little grace, I give him a little buffer. Canny Pickett,

1005
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: you don't get a buffer just because you were the

1006
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: twentieth pick, one of the least talented guy that's ever

1007
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: been picked in the first round in NFL history. And

1008
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: this is a Tomlin problem. And I was asked about

1009
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: this the other day in the mail bag about nause

1010
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: talking about the discipline issues. I think it's difficult, Like

1011
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: Tomlin does not just get to run the personnel department.

1012
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: And George Pickens like for them to be competitive, they

1013
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: need him. He happens to be kind of a problem sometimes,

1014
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: but like Mike can't cut him, can't make him a

1015
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: healthy scratch that they need him to compete to win.

1016
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: He is their most talented offensive player. Like, if I'm Tomlin,

1017
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: maybe I'm want out. Maybe I just want to go

1018
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: to a place where I can start over. I've been

1019
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: saying this forever, and if I'm the Steelers, I think

1020
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: it's an easy transition too. You know who you can hire.

1021
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know the guy who, once upon a time

1022
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: draft in the third round, a younger version of Mike Tomlin,

1023
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel. Like, I think it's a perfect time for

1024
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: a breakup. Just because you get a divorce doesn't mean

1025
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: you hate the other person. Sometimes it does. Jonathan Craft

1026
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick clearly well reported do not like each other.

1027
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Craft probably thinks he's an ungrateful a hole and

1028
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: Belichick thinks he's just a spoiled rich kid. So he's

1029
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: gonna hate that guy till there's dying days. Jonathan Craft's

1030
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: never gonna like him right this one. Like, listen, we

1031
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for each other. We've accomplished

1032
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: a lot, we've held We've been successful here, We've never

1033
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: even been average. It's been impressive. Maybe it's time to

1034
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: go our separate ways. I'm not gonna come off that

1035
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: point now, if you tell me in the next week

1036
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: they extend him. Could see that that's the history of

1037
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: the franchise. What I think that would be the wrong

1038
00:53:55,320 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: move one hundred percent. Okay, let's dive into a little

1039
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: thing we call the mailbag, you guys know, the drill.

1040
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: Fire into my direct messages at John Middlecoff at John

1041
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: Middlecoff two fs DMS, wide open Instagram, and get your

1042
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: question answered here on a little thing we call the podcast.

1043
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: Here's a question for the bag. Do you agree that

1044
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: Jason Light is a top five GM bucks homer here

1045
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: but from trades building a super Bowl team with Brady,

1046
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: great cap management, underratedly young team, nine starters on the

1047
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: past two drafts. I think he goes underappreciated as a Buck,

1048
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: but I get it happens when you're a small market

1049
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: shit division. Jason Light's good. I mean to have obviously

1050
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: landing Brady and being aggressive on Brady when a lot

1051
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: of teams regret not making that move, you get a

1052
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: lot of credit for that. And then when you just

1053
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: look at some of the guys he's drafted, right, you know,

1054
00:54:54,320 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: from Wharfs to Winfield to White, the middle linebacker, you know,

1055
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: vidavea I mean they have a really really talented team

1056
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: and the Baker Mayfield situation to now win a playoff game, yeah,

1057
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard. We say top five a lot.

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00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: He's clearly a really good GM and anytime you go,

1059
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: we got a really good GM, Like that's all you want.

1060
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: Like whether he's a second, whether he's a six, you know,

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00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: it changes whether you win or lose on a given week.

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00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: But one total agreement, Jason Light you know Patriot Eagle background,

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00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: he's really good. Love your podcast, Will Colin. This is

1064
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: a college football question. Florida State will be the most

1065
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: underrated team next year, and Mike Norvel doesn't get enough

1066
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: credit that he deserves. In my opinion, I tend to agree,

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: and a lot has to do with the you know,

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00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: the situation got overshadowed with the quarterback injury them being

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00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: left out of the playoffs. But he did an incredible

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00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: job this season. Like that team was really really good

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00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: and it's sad when Jordan Travis got hurt. You know,

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00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: could they have competed in the playoffs. I think they

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00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: could have. Now he had moments this season where he

1074
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: didn't play as well, but obviously the moment his ankle

1075
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: was shattered that their season was done right and it

1076
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: was proven when they didn't get in. But I do

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00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: think that he's really good and that's why when rumors

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00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: that they were interested in him as the head coach

1079
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: at Alabama, I didn't think that was crazy at all.

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00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: I didn't and from a cultural fit, you know, I

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00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 1: think he played at Memphis, he'd worked at Memphis, they'd

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00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: coached at Memphis. Obviously, if you work in your coach,

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00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: and he's now coached at Florida State, like, he's pretty

1084
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: comfortable in that region of the country, which Kaylyndborge is

1085
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: simply is not. So if you would have told me

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: they would have hired him as the next coach at Alabama,

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00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: I would have plauded it. So I think you got

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00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: yourself a really, really good coach from your scouting days.

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00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about the interview

1090
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: process for GM scouts? What's the process? Like? Super curious

1091
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: because I know this audience wants to hear more about

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00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: your experience. Well, obviously I've never interviewed to be a GM,

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00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: so I can't speak to that. I plan this offseason

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: once things slowed down, definitely around the draft and after

1095
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: the draft is when GM's lighten up a lot, and

1096
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: to do some interviews with them, you know, especially Adam Peters,

1097
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: like I would love to hear about his interview process

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: for me as a scout and seeing the way we

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: interviewed people in the scouting department you usually like for example,

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00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: when I got hired in Philly, I flew back there.

1101
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: I had to pay for my own flight because it

1102
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: was like the lowest guy in the totem pole. Typically

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: they pay for you to fly out, but this graduate

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: assistant from Prisnee State, no love pay for it to

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: go out. I'd ask my parents for money. I didn't

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00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: have five hundred dollars or whatever it costs me to

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00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: fly from Fresno to Philadelphia. I think I watched four

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: or five players. I wrote them up, and then I

1109
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: kind of went on a rotation meeting with people. I

1110
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: met with Brett Feach, I met with Lewis Riddick, and

1111
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: I met, you know, with the younger scouts, Mike Bradway,

1112
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: brad Obie, these guys still work in the NFL. And

1113
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: then Howie and they just kind of feel yourself out

1114
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: as a person. You talk about football with them, you

1115
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: know in my position when I interviewed, they just kind

1116
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: of want to see more about like this guy willing

1117
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: to do stuff, Is this guy have football knowledge? Is

1118
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: this guy ambitious? Is this guy a good cultural fit.

1119
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: It's not as much about like what are your football

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: philosophies rank these ten free agents? How much they don't care? Right,

1121
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: who would you have taken in the draft? Which as

1122
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: you elevate right scouting directors and stuff like that, it changes. Well,

1123
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, you know, get elevated in the

1124
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: building don't have to do that, like you've just proven

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: your worth and you get an opportunity. And that happened

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00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: to me when I got elevated the next year as

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00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: a pro scout, and then the following year Daniel Jeremiah,

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00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: who was the West Coast scout who's obviously now on television.

1129
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: Me and him are pretty close because we're West guys.

1130
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: I used to pick him up from the airport and

1131
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: I dropped him off and he's like, bro, I'm believing

1132
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: to the NFL network and I was like, God, I

1133
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: want to go back to California. It's so bad, Like

1134
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: I want your job. So I like put together a

1135
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: packet I essentially started begging for the job, and I

1136
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: had to do a campaign and maybe because I was cheap,

1137
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I got it and i've never

1138
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: I haven't left the West Coast since. But I can't

1139
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: speak to you know, a GM interview obviously that that's

1140
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: a fascinating question. You know, I think a lot of

1141
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: that is team building, experiences, failures, philosophy on coaches, philosophy

1142
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: on organizations, the building, the training staff, the equipment staff,

1143
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: the you know, it's it's a lot of big picture stuff.

1144
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: In my position, we don't even know existed. I'm a

1145
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: cowboy hater. I think when they lose, America wins. However,

1146
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: I actually do not think McCarthy should be fired since

1147
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: McCarthy took over the play calling DAK and he made

1148
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: DAK better. I think if your quarterback is a serial choker,

1149
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: you can't win. Mike did his job and I don't

1150
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: think he should be punished for Dak's ineptitude. What do

1151
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: you think, Well, there is no arguing that DAK was

1152
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: really really good throughout the season, and the reason they

1153
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: were the two seed, a huge reason is because of

1154
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: the offense. And since McCarthy has been there, even when

1155
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: he didn't call plays. Their offense has been really good.

1156
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: But that game like part of being the head coach, right,

1157
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: whether you're a CEO head coach like a Harball or

1158
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: a Tomlin, whether you're a coordinator coach like Demiko or

1159
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: Shanahan or McVeigh, you still have to prepare the entire

1160
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: team and have their mindset right going into a game.

1161
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: And clearly the Packers showed up to cause freaking havoc.

1162
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers showed up that game like it

1163
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: was their super Bowl, and the Cowboys showed up to

1164
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: that game like it was you know, they were three

1165
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: in one and it was October first. So to me,

1166
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: the reflection, I'm with you, Dak, throwing it to the

1167
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: other team is not necessarily McCarthy's fault, Like of course

1168
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: McCarthy doesn't want him to throw that ball. I don't

1169
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: think McCarthy is a bad ex as and O's coach.

1170
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: He's proven a lot these last three years. He's a

1171
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: pretty capable, credible coach. But once you get a team

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Speaker 1: like the Cowboys or like some of his Packer teams,

1173
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna be judged on the playoffs, right, Like, once

1174
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: you get to a certain spot in the NBA, like

1175
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: James Harden could score seventy five points a game. Not

1176
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: a soul cares anymore. What do you do in the

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01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. He should the better and

1178
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: he play well, And to me, McCarthy's team came out

1179
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: I think laid one of the biggest eggs I've ever seen.

1180
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: We've seen teams lose, right TCU in the National Championship.

1181
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: Was a final score like seventy to seven of they

1182
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: got they were in a different universe, Georgia. It's like,

1183
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think Bill Walsh would have

1184
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: scored many more points. But that a Cowboy game makes

1185
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: you question, like can we win in the playoffs with

1186
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Is it possible? Because I had that thought,

1187
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you. This gets back to Tomlin, This gets

1188
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: back to Pete Carroll, This gets to Mike McCarthy. Just

1189
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: because you go, like question it, You go, this guy

1190
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: brings a lot to the table, brings a lot to

1191
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: the table. But can I win a championship with this

1192
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: guy as my head coach right now? From the Cowboys?

1193
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like you can't. Same with Pete Carroll, like

1194
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: I think we need to go into It doesn't mean

1195
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's not really good. Doesn't mean Pee Carroll can't

1196
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: get us the playoffs. McCarthy's won twelve games in a row.

1197
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: McCarthy's proven. You give him good players, he's gonna win.

1198
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Speaker 1: What's that thirty six straight thirty six games? How many

1199
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL would sign up for thirty six

1200
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: wins over the last three seasons, two division championships. He

1201
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: hasn't failed, but he has failed in the playoffs. And

1202
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: he is fair or not when Dak throws the other

1203
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: team like he is the play caller. Tough situation. I

1204
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: hear you. I don't disagree that it's not just like

1205
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: black and white. And if DA's your quarterback, maybe you're

1206
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: destined alay struggle in the playoffs. Like you said, got

1207
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: an NFL scenario for you. The Bears trade fields for

1208
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: a second round. Then they trade the ninth pick, their second,

1209
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: and their third to New England for the third pick

1210
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: and take Marvin Harrison Junior, and the Pats draft next

1211
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: Worthy and Corey with those picks. One more Sorry, Harbaugh

1212
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: was to Washington. He gets to live next door to

1213
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: his brother only plays in Super Bowl and really can't

1214
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: draft Marvin Harrison Junior at two and he can take

1215
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: JJ in the second round. I would never trade that

1216
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: much capital for Marvin Harrison Junior. I don't view Marvin

1217
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior as like some all time great wide receiver prospect.

1218
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: I think he's really good and he's going to go

1219
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: in the top ten. Remember when Atlanta once upon a

1220
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: time risked it all for Julio Jones. I wouldn't do

1221
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: that for Marvin Harrison. That does not mean I don't

1222
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: think he's good. I'd argue I don't know if the

1223
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: gap between him and the next couple guys is that wide.

1224
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: And I think there are gonna be some scouts that

1225
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: have Keon Coleman or you know whoever, the one of

1226
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: the LSU guys as the second best wide receiver, or

1227
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, right neck and neck with Marvin Harrison Junior.

1228
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: So I would not do that if I was the Bears.

1229
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: What I would do is I was the Bears, I

1230
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: would take obviously, trade justin Fields, take Caleb number one

1231
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: or whoever. I mean, listen, I don't think Cale. I'm

1232
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: not just treating Caleb. I do, but I know that

1233
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: teams like there are gonna be some teams like it's

1234
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: a conversation, right, There was no conversation with Trevor Lawrence.

1235
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: He was gonna be the number one overall pick. I

1236
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: don't think that's the case here. If you're the Bears,

1237
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: like you're doing deep dives on the top three or

1238
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: four guys, it was probably your number one guy. But

1239
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: you are doing like are we sure? Like? There was

1240
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: no are we sure with Trevor Lawrence. There was no

1241
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: are we sure with Andrew Luck? There isn't are we

1242
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: sure with Caleb Williams? But I do think he'll end

1243
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: up going number one overall? To me? At nine, you

1244
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: got other quarterbacks getting drafted. Let's just say three other

1245
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: guys get picked, right, Jayden Daniels, Drake May and let's

1246
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: say one other guy. Well, you're getting one of the

1247
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: best players in the draft at nine. I think you

1248
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: one stay. Why does Brock Perdy get so little respect?

1249
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this on the podcast earlier.

1250
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: It's simply because of his draft status, and people don't

1251
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 1: want to be wrong. It's just that simple, right, People

1252
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: are nitpicking Trevor Lawrence because they feel duped. They're like, well,

1253
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: I butt it into hype. I said he was a

1254
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, just like every single person, and

1255
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: I watch him like I don't even think he's that good,

1256
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 1: but everyone was in agreement, like Trevor Lawrence is really good.

1257
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: How can this happen? But brock Purty most people didn't

1258
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: even talk about him, and then he gets drafted, Like

1259
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: this is not the way the NFL works. The guy

1260
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: just shows up pick two sixty two and is just

1261
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: good and compete to win the MVP in year two.

1262
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: No way, that's people in the NFL. That's people that

1263
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: talk about football for a living, that's fans. So I

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01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: think it's just a natural skepticism where Trevor Lawrence, Iss example,

1265
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: people are talking shit about Trevor Lawrence because they feel duped,

1266
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: like I bought it into the hype. I believed. That's

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: why people push back on Herbert. It's like, well, I

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01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: see him play, I think he's good, but like, why

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01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: doesn't he win more? With brock perty He's like, no,

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01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: I can't two sixty two be this good? No chance?

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Should the Rams start to look for Stafford's successor he's

1272
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: getting older and takes so many crazy hits during the season.

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: If they don't start looking, why not justin fields. I

1274
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: think fields with McVeigh would be very interesting. Trade for fields,

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: allow him to sit for a year, maybe allowing us

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: maybe for a year he's got still got insane talent. Well,

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: here's the problem for the Rams, because I think they

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: should be in the mix if they like one of

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. I haven't looked exactly what pick. Let's just pick.

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick a number I could be off

1281
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: by a couple. Let's say they're picking twenty two. We'll

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: trade up from twenty two to like fifteen, and if

1283
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: you really like a quarterback and he's there, take them

1284
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: sit him for a year Patrick Mahoon style, right, because

1285
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Matt Stafford, who is clearly unreal when

1286
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: he's healthy, takes more shots than anyone else in the league.

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01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance he couldn't get out of

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01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: bed on on Monday morning. Ribs, broken hand, hurts, heads, concussed.

1289
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: He took a beating in that game, and he is

1290
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: a thirty five year old that has taken a beating

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: like guys in the seventies. So I think they're going

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: to be in the mix to draft a quarterback. Hell,

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01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: maybe in the second roue. Maybe they take JJ McCarthy

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01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: and sit him for a year. But the problem with

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is, Okay, I got a trade my second

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01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: or third round pick, which if I'm the Rams, I've

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: proven that I can draft players that immediately start for

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01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: me with those picks. And then his contract is a problem.

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01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: Like he's going into the fourth year of his contract,

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01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: so then it's the fifth year option. And yeah, it's

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: that's what makes Fields pretty pretty complicated. First time using

1302
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: the gram. Hopefully this is the right spot for a

1303
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: mail back question. So hypothetically, if the Eagles and Colts

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: front offices are talking in trade Anthony Richardson for Jalen

1305
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: Hurts straight up or to be discussed, who says no?

1306
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: Seems to me the Cults are ready to win now

1307
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,919
Speaker 1: in uniting Jalen with his old OC would be enticing. Meanwhile,

1308
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: the Eagles get a bit concerned with the way Hurts

1309
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: finished the season and with Richardson's upside on a rookie deal,

1310
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: would they consider blowing it up and starting over thanks

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01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: I think one. Financially, it would have huge cap implications

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01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. So I don't think it's possible to

1313
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: trade Jalen Hurts. Let me just from a realistic standpoint,

1314
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: now an unrealistic hypothetical. I think the Eagles say no

1315
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: because the Eagles two years ago saw a guy that

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: played at Super high love that almost won an MVP,

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01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: Anthony Rigidson, for his talent, that as he is, hasn't

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01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: proved that he could play a month without going to

1319
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: the Blue Tent and missing the season. So yeah, he's

1320
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent, but we have no clue

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: if he can just play in the NFL five straight years,

1322
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: seventeen straight games. Say what you want about Jalen. He

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: gets banged up, like he's pretty durable, right, he can

1324
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: play injured. Anthony Rigidon gets hurt, he's out the game

1325
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a couple of injuries, out for

1326
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: the season. So I think the Colts would do that.

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: I think they both Colts would do it for sure.

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: You'd have to, right, because Shane Styken proved that he

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: could win big with that guy. If you put Jalen

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01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: Hurt and Shane Stikeen together, I mean the Colts probably

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: win that playoff game. Week eight team and that they

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01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: win the division. The Eagles have to say no. Now, financially,

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: it would be intriguing if they could get rid of

1334
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: the money. But I think Anthony Richardson and listen, I

1335
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: like big talents, like I'm intrigued by that, but you

1336
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: couldn't risk your franchise on a guy that proven that

1337
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: these how many games he plays here four, I heard

1338
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: you talking about Baker's possible salary for next year before

1339
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: the playoff game. Is it safe to say he earned

1340
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: himself five to ten million dollars annually with his performance

1341
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, well a lot Baker, and I saw

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: one other guy, Jordan Love. Right, lower paid starters who

1343
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: won playoff games hit huge incentives. I think Baker's already

1344
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: made over three and a half million dollars in the centips.

1345
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: He was already making four million, so he's close to

1346
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: like seven eight million dollars. Jordan Love, who signed a

1347
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: two year eleven million dollars, I think it made over

1348
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: seven million dollars in incentive, so he's over ten. So

1349
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: if you just let's just say Baker ends up making

1350
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: eight and a half million dollars, you could argue he

1351
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: had minimum doubled that salary next year. I've been saying

1352
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: over like, I can't pay him thirty or forty million dollars.

1353
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to like be some hater, like

1354
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm just not paying him that. Could I pay him

1355
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: three years twenty million dollars a year? I definitely could

1356
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: talk about it and think about it. Ideally, would I

1357
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: like to pay him like fifteen to eighteen? Yeah? Could

1358
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: he get that more somewhere else? Maybe he could. The

1359
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: other thing is, I don't know what his market is.

1360
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: If you get a market, drives it up. Maybe he's

1361
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: making twenty five million dollars a year next year, so

1362
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: one hundred percent he made money though. Finishing up this

1363
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: Steelers Bills game, and I think Tom Lyn should stay.

1364
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: They need a quarterback and a real offensive coordinator. I

1365
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: think they're buttoned up and have a solid culture, totally

1366
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: agreement there. They play hard and always seem prepared. Well,

1367
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: let's just assume that he can get a good offensive coordinator,

1368
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: which is hard. I mean, he hasn't had one. It

1369
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: feels like, in a minute, how did they get the quarterback?

1370
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: How do they honestly, how do they get the quarterback?

1371
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: They're drafting in the twenties. They just picked Kenny Pickett

1372
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, who's now mad that he

1373
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: didn't get to start the playoff game. Clearly, like what

1374
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: do you do? Trubisky's money carries over this year. They

1375
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: extended him, don't forget. I just don't see how they

1376
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: upgraded the quarterback. Maybe they could trade up and do

1377
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: it over again. But so you get two guys on

1378
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: rookie contracts and then all of a sudden you have

1379
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: a quarterback competition with Pickett and Michael Pennix or JJ

1380
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: McCarthy or whoever the quarterback is you draft. It's kind

1381
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: of complicated. Tomlins is the least complicated. Listen, I understand

1382
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: if he comes back, like I don't think it's like crazy.

1383
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a scrub. I think he's a

1384
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: good coach. I understand why Mike Tomlin wants to be

1385
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's the Pittsburgh freaking Steelers.

1386
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: But I think, how's he get an offensive coordinator who

1387
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: knows He's like, well, you're getting an extension. If you're

1388
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: not getting extension, you're just playing out this one year.

1389
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: What if we suck. What if I get fired? They

1390
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: just fired an offensive coordinator. Who the hell's playing quarterback?

1391
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,879
Speaker 1: I think that's a massive Do they get Kirk Cousins?

1392
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: Do they trade for Justin Fields? I mean there are

1393
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: some options out there for sure. Do you think if

1394
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is fired Mike Vrabel and Arthur Smith would

1395
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: take over as the head coach and offensive coordinator? I

1396
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: think if Mike Tomlin is traded fired, is the coach

1397
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: of the Commanders or the Falcons or something? I think

1398
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: one hundred percent Mike Rabel would be the coach of

1399
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. When you close your eyes and you

1400
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: think Mike Rabel, you think of a guy that the

1401
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: Rooney family would like. They drafted him in the third round.

1402
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he feels like a Steeler, even though when

1403
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: you think about Mike Rabel the player, think a Pet Patriot.

1404
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: But he has a lot of similarities, like would be

1405
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: a perfect easy transition in that organization. The other thing,

1406
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: and this is what I like about having a defensive

1407
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: coach that is tied to an offensive coordinator. Well, if

1408
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: that offensive coordinator is successful, does that guy immediately get

1409
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: a job? Look at Di Miko brought Bobby Sloweck with him.

1410
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: Bobby Slowak's been really good. Well Bobby slowc is he

1411
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna get a job Because if Bobby Slowan gets a job, well,

1412
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: who's Demko's next offensive coordinator? If I hire a Belichick

1413
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: and he's bringing Josh, or I hire a Vrabel and

1414
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: he's bringing Arthur Smith. Who's hiring either one of those

1415
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,839
Speaker 1: guys to be a head coach if we have success

1416
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: on offense the next couple of years. Josh no chance.

1417
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith. I think it's gonna take at least

1418
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: three years. There's a stink of Atlanta, and I mean

1419
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,879
Speaker 1: a stinky smell that was really smelly. That was really stinky,

1420
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: like we witnessed it well. I turned off a lot

1421
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: of games because I couldn't watch them. They were unwatchable.

1422
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: So to me, Arthur Smith good number two. Josh just

1423
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: can't I be a head coach? Can't do it? They

1424
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: run them out of town. Cowboys fan A lot of

1425
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: people have slide into my Someone slid into my DMS

1426
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: the other day and I was interacting with them on

1427
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: Instagram and he's like, you can't compare the Cowboys to

1428
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: the Yankees or the Lakers. I'm like, I'm not comparing

1429
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: like recent winnings, right. I understand the Lakers won an

1430
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: nd season championship. I understand the Yankees have been to

1431
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs, even though they didn't make the playoffs this year.

1432
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are the biggest brand in American sports. They are.

1433
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: The Lakers had like six hundred thousand people watched them

1434
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: on Martin Luther King Day. The Cowboys had forty million

1435
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: people watching the playoff game. So part of it is

1436
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: like the brand of the Cowboys, which is choking right now,

1437
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: is a letdown, is still the biggest brand. You put

1438
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on TV. The most amount of people will

1439
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: watch sports in this country any event, any team. I

1440
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: got news for you. You put Yankees, Red Sox Sunday

1441
01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: Night baseball, not that many people are watching. You put Lakers,

1442
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, clippers on struggling to get two million people

1443
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: to watch. You put the Cowboys against another good team,

1444
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: You're talking thirty five million people. Now, it usually ends

1445
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: in a letdown, but that's all season. They're the biggest team.

1446
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: And the other thing is it'd be one thing if

1447
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: people talked a lot about the Cowboys and they had

1448
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: constantly been like a five win team. They were a

1449
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: twelve win team, they were the number two seed, they

1450
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: were hosting a playoff game. Sorry to go on that ramp.

1451
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: Does Dak cavierty trade value? He doesn't deserve that top

1452
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: five quarterback money, and any picks we could use to

1453
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: get for him might help us package to try to

1454
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: jump up for one of the quarterbacks in the draft.

1455
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: He won ondred percent has trade value. He definitely does.

1456
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: Like you don't think the Atlanta Falcons would be interested

1457
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: in Dak Prescott. You don't think the Minnesota Vikings like

1458
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: he would be an upgrade at a lot of places. Now,

1459
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: what type money does he want? He was he's been

1460
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 1: he's under contract for how many years he been under

1461
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: contract now four? He's been making forty million dollars a

1462
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: yearllion dollars a year, So he's not and he's just

1463
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: played some of the best seasons of his career. He

1464
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: canna be like, Okay, this time around, I'll take twenty seven. No,

1465
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna want like forty eight million dollars a year.

1466
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: Second part, if we trade Lance, is it worth it

1467
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: to give Trey Lance a full season under No? Trey

1468
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: Lance was the starting quarterback of the Cowboys. They don't

1469
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year. Trey Lance can't play. Cannot play.

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01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't do anything well. He's not accurate, he can't run.

1471
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: He's not very good. The forty nine ers didn't just

1472
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: randomly trade him. He's just not a very good player.

1473
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm a Panthers fan, unfortunately. You just want to know

1474
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Bryce Young and how he played this year,

1475
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 1: especially the second half of the season. Do you think

1476
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: he can be a franchise guy with the right pieces

1477
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: around him. I loved him in the draft. I can't

1478
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: unsee him in a just a Carolina Panthers uniform. He's

1479
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: the smallest player in NFL history, non kicker. So I

1480
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: just do I believe it's gonna work out. I do not,

1481
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: because I don't think a guy that weighs one hundred

1482
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: and seventy five pounds at quarterback can last in the NFL.

1483
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: And I also think organizationally they're kind of screwed, which

1484
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: some of the stuff's out of his control. Who's going

1485
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: to want to be the coach there? His owner's nuts.

1486
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: The talent on the roster is not great. They don't

1487
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: they don't have their first pick. Think about this. Do

1488
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: you know one thing we haven't talked about. What if

1489
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: the Panthers somehow had their first pick. What do you

1490
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: think we'd be saying? Because last year it was like, well,

1491
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: Caleb one hundred would have been the first pick in

1492
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: the draft. Well, don't you think they would want Caleb

1493
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: this year? And would they just trade Bryce Young? Because

1494
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: I think that would be a huge conversation. Right now,

1495
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: we don't even need to waste our time because it

1496
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. But would we rolled it back and somehow

1497
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: they were able to make that trade and for whatever

1498
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: reason not give up this year's first round pick, wouldn't

1499
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: the conversation be like, well, I've just just trade Bryce

1500
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: Young like the Atlanta Falcons and draft Caleb Williams. Because

1501
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: I think that would be a major conversation, And I

1502
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: do think that's what a lot of people would be saying.

1503
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: Do you think Harbaugh to the Chargers is really the

1504
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: best fit for him? They have rather meddlesome ownership, and

1505
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: the reason he left the Niners in the first place

1506
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: was because he didn't get along with Bulky and Jed York. Also,

1507
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: Jim is proven he can turn things around. No matter

1508
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: the situation, So I don't think he needs a good

1509
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: roster like Belichick does. I think it's the best situation

1510
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: because that's where he wants to go. All indications is

1511
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: he's very interested in that job. He played there. He's

1512
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: lived in southern California before as a coach when he

1513
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: coached the University of San Diego. He coached a lot

1514
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: of years in California in general, San Diego, Stanford, and

1515
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. He's comfortable with that. He went to

1516
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: high schoo in Palo Alto. You know, I think he's

1517
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: comfortable in that region of the country when you look

1518
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: at the places he's coached, just coach in Michigan and California.

1519
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 1: I hear you. I do think it would be I

1520
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: do think it would be uncomfortable fast for a lot

1521
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: of people in that organization because Jim's an uncomfortable individual.

1522
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: He just he's weird dude. So I think it would

1523
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: be a lot for the Spanos family to handle. But

1524
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: I will give them credit if they hire this, it'd

1525
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: be them acknowledging we don't have a choice. We need

1526
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: him more than he needs us, because they do. They

1527
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: need Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh does not need the Chargers.

1528
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: Jim Harlbar could stay at Michigan and become like an legend,

1529
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: win a couple of national championships and Ryan Day's career

1530
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: at Ohio State, make a ton of money, just continue

1531
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: to build on an incredible legacy. But if you're getting him,

1532
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: you're getting a driven guy because clearly he'd want to

1533
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl and clearly he believes in your quarterback.

1534
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: So if they if they pull this off, I'll give

1535
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: this Spanos family a lot of credit. A little late. Right,

1536
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: should have done this years ago, hire a real coach,

1537
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: but they finally did it, and you know, it's better

1538
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: to finally right or wrong. And they acknowledged that they

1539
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: had a coaching issue. Now can they deal with them

1540
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: on a daily basis? It's not easy. Can you talk

1541
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of how you get these head coaching

1542
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: offers going out and the strategy of dealing with the

1543
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: egos and timelines and negotiations that is this public in nature.

1544
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: For example, the Falcons have announced on social media that

1545
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: they have interviewed both Harbaugh and Belichick. Both coaches are

1546
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: going to have multiple offers, and undoubtedly Arthur Blank has

1547
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: a favorite. How do you even offer one and expect

1548
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: the other one to pick up your call if he

1549
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: feels like he's the second choice. If Blank shoots at

1550
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: Belichick and missus, is he doomed to have to pick

1551
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: up a lower profile guy. I just think it's part

1552
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: of the business, you know. I think think in twenty

1553
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: twenty four, why are the Falcons putting out that they

1554
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: interviewed Belichick? Right? And as most people reacted to that tweet,

1555
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: was like, no, he interviewed you. But it's to like

1556
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: show the fans like we're taking the shit seriously, right,

1557
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: we want Bill Belichick. It's public, you know, these coaches.

1558
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: Belichick is used to publicly negotiating with players. Belichick is

1559
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: used to dealing with a very public situation in a

1560
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: weird way. It's kind of just the way business is done,

1561
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: and in every industry has some quirks that if you're

1562
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: not used to, would make you uncomfortable. Belichick's seventy years old,

1563
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: seventy two or whatever. He's been in the NFL since

1564
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five. I think at this point in time

1565
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: he's pretty numb to everything, like it kind of is

1566
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: what it is. And Arthur Blank like it also kind

1567
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: of is what it is. So you gotta be willing

1568
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: to You're gonna offer guys in free agency. You're gonna

1569
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: offer trades in the draft. You're gonna offer trades in

1570
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: free agency. You're gonna offer coaches, whether head coach or

1571
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: assistant coaches that you're gonna get denied. But you got

1572
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: to shoot your shot. Sometimes you're gonna miss, and sometimes

1573
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: it's more public than other times, but it just kind

1574
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: of comes with the territory. It's kind of the business

1575
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,959
Speaker 1: you're in. There's no way I think he could interview

1576
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: Harbaugh or you also want to control the narrative. So

1577
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: if you're gonna interview Belichick or Harbaugh, it's gonna get

1578
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: out because on their camp, they're gonna want it out

1579
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: for leverage. So I think these teams look at it.

1580
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: Let's control the narrative. Let's just tweet an instagram a

1581
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 1: picture of them out and make us feel good about

1582
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: you know that we were the ones on the forefront

1583
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: of that. But it's just the industry, right, It happens

1584
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: all the time. Like you know, Alabama was very careful

1585
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: about it, But was Kaelin Dubor their first choice or

1586
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: did they try to hire Sarkesian because that's who Nick

1587
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Saban wanted and he told them once upon a time

1588
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: you were gonna be the coach waiting, and sark told

1589
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: him no. Alabama doesn't want it out that they told

1590
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: him no, and sark out of respect for Saban. Right in,

1591
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Sexons's agent, who resurrected his career after the alcohol issues,

1592
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: doesn't want it out that he's mistreating that program. So

1593
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: some stuff is more sensitive than others. But I think

1594
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL it's it's just pretty cut and dry.

1595
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: Like Belichick turned down the Falcons. No one like what

1596
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: were the Falcons supposed to do? Not offer him the job?

1597
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: Then you just pivot, you offer someone else the job.

1598
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: I think coaches are used to, you know, getting turned down,

1599
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: getting having other guys take their spot, interviewing and not

1600
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: getting a job, or interviewing and taking someone else's spot.

1601
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: So I guess it's a long winded way of saying

1602
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters much. I really don't. I

1603
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: think for most of us human beings, it would be

1604
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot to handle. When I first when I got

1605
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: my job in the NFL, my first job in the NFL.

1606
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: I was either twenty or twenty five grand. It was

1607
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: so little pay that it was in the hundreds every

1608
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: two weeks, and I didn't have health insurance or whatever.

1609
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: When I showed up, there were three other people there.

1610
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Now one guy was interviewing for a bigger role, but

1611
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: there were other two guys interviewing for the role. When

1612
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: I got dropped off and I went to the cafeteria

1613
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: to eat breakfast, there were three other people eating breakfast.

1614
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: It's like fuck, it was I had never experienced anything

1615
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: like that. It kind of got my blood flowing, like, ah,

1616
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: this is pretty cutthrow business man. So it's just just

1617
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: a reality of the situation. I've always been curious as

1618
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: to why it seems like people involved in the NFL

1619
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: never seemed to know the rules, clock mismanagement, challenging plays

1620
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: that can't defenders, covering a non eligible wide out, not

1621
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: being aware of the situation, and taking a sack when

1622
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: one cannot be given. Why is this as this all

1623
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: they do and work on? Well, this is from Robin.

1624
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I think the clock management thing is so much easier

1625
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: for us to judge on the sidelines, like Listen, did

1626
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Stafford screw that thing up the other night. Yeah,

1627
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: they did, but you can't hear yourself think. It's so

1628
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: loud in that building. You're exhausted. Stafford doesn't keep the

1629
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, the huddle going quick enough. All of a

1630
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: sudden you look up and it's too late to me.

1631
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: The clock management like not calling timeouts and when to

1632
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: call timeouts. It's moving pretty fast when you're on the field.

1633
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 1: It's easy when we're sitting on you know, our couch

1634
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: in a pair of Nike shorts, eating popcorn and drinking

1635
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: a gatorade with our feet up, going God, this guy's

1636
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: an idiot. I also think players that screw up, covering

1637
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: the wrong guy, blowing an assignment, whatever. There's a lot

1638
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: going on. So to be able to calm your mind

1639
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: when you're fatigued. What's the famous line, like fatigue make

1640
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: coward of us all? Fatigue also just like makes your

1641
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: mind kind of inplode. Think about just in general, if

1642
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 1: for two straight nights you sleep three or four hours,

1643
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: and if you're a guy like me that needs six

1644
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: seven hours and you sleep not very much, you're tossing

1645
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: and turning whatever. By that third day, you're trying to

1646
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: work your brain is not firing on all pistons. Well,

1647
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: it's no different as an athlete. When you're exhausted, you

1648
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,839
Speaker 1: might not think straight. Even though you know the rules,

1649
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: you've gone over them a million times in practice. I

1650
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: mean it's easy to uh. I would imagine if we

1651
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: pull the Marines right boot camp and training, you can

1652
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: train with the best of the best. Once the game comes,

1653
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: even if you know what you're supposed to do in

1654
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: the line of fire, you might freeze, you might forget.

1655
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: I think that happens a lot in football. It's also

1656
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: a very violent game, so throughout the sport you're not

1657
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: only fatigued, you're feeling pain. It's hard to keep your

1658
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: mind I straight. It's why typically the championship level players

1659
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: are not only the best players, they're the most mentally strong.

1660
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: They practice the best, they are able to retain information.

1661
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Same with coaches. What Belichick did once upon a time

1662
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: when that Marshawn Lynch run and Seattle was freaking out

1663
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: and he did not call time out, and then they

1664
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: threw the interception to Malcolm Butler and they show the

1665
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: Seattle sideline and it's just chaotic. I mean, people are

1666
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: all over the place and Belichick's just standing over there.

1667
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: It's like it's heart is beating like minor yours right now,

1668
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: sitting on our desk chair. He's pretty rare. Like that

1669
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 1: situation's pretty rare. Or Joe Montana and two minutes left

1670
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: to go in the Super Bowl gets in the huddle

1671
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: and points at like Harris Barton look at John Candy

1672
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: sitting right there, and laughs like not everyone's Joe cool

1673
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: in the biggest moments. Most of us, myself included, can

1674
01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: feel overwhelmed, can freak out right. It's something I've I've

1675
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: really worked on as I've gotten older. I'm sure many

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Speaker 1: people listening to this really focus, you know, as you

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Speaker 1: work up in a company, or run your own company,

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Speaker 1: or start your own business, or you know, have more

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Speaker 1: responsibility with children or whatever, trying to control your emotions

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Speaker 1: no matter how much you practice it. You know, you

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Speaker 1: get a phone call, something going wrong, it's easy to

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Speaker 1: like lose control, right, So I I think it's understandable

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Speaker 1: despite like this. What separates people at the highest level

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan unfaced, Tom Brady, unfaced, Tiger Woods unfazed doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they don't feel it. It means they're able to

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Speaker 1: perform the best in the most pressure packed moments. A

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Speaker 1: lot of guys can't in any business. Most guys crumble. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's what separates the haves and the have nots. It's

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Speaker 1: what separates the top one percent from the top five percent.

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Speaker 1: Like that, there's a gap like right, the gap of

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Speaker 1: talent between Tom Brady and like Philip Rivers or Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: Is is it that big? Where is there stuff that

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Speaker 1: it's hard to quantify as coaches and players, And I

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Speaker 1: think there's a human element of just breaking down mentally,

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Speaker 1: which I think you know, crosses over into all of

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Speaker 1: our lives and whatever we do. The volume