WEBVTT - Debra McGuire Iconic Costume Designer 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:20.040 Yeah, no mess Welcome to the Mess around. It is 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.759 our New Girl Recap, a recap podcast that I do 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.079 with Lemourn and we bring in all the New Girl 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:30.960 fan favorites that made the show the show, and I 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.560 would say, without exaggeration, maybe fifty percent of our questions 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.920 are about what we're wearing. How it all came to 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.839 be where people can get a bird shirt, we're zolways, 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.320 clothes made or bought, I mean on and the wedding dresses, 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:54.360 the amazing weddings, and I'm like, this was Debra's world. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.160 We somehow And I remember this when I got a 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.520 New Girl and they said that Deborah maguire was doing costumes. 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.400 It was really my first job in the industry. So 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.240 I was like, Okay, I can't wait to meet Deborah 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:11.840 and they're like, no, like they got Deborah and I 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.080 was like, Okay, what does that mean? And they're like, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:20.199 she's the greatest in the entire business. Nobody can understand 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.720 how they got her. And then I got to learn 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.679 over like almost a decade of how and why you 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.640 are the best in every single aspect of what you do. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.080 So what is your New Girl origin story? How did 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.560 you get connected to the show, and why did you 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:37.440 agree to do it? 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:42.560 Truthfully, it must have had to do with Jake Castin, right, 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.760 mm hmm. Yeah. So you know, I started working with 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.840 Jake on Freaks and Geeks, and then I started doing 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.880 all of his shows, and you know, we had the 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.680 three shows going for a long time, and I'm sure 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.360 that's how I got there. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.320 Jake was just like, you're you're part of this world. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.400 Right, I've done At that point, I'd worked with him 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.919 since he was twenty two years old, I think get out. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:15.839 Yeah, so he was like, you have to be part 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:20.000 of this. How did you approach creating the looks for 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.280 the central cast of New Girl. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:29.160 Well, I had this idea that was about color and 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:36.240 with you know, Zoe being the teacher and sort of 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.280 the center of the cyclone. I thought of it like 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.800 a box of Crayola krans and that She was like, like, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.840 I have a real connection to Crayola Kranz from the 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.360 time I'm a child. I can like smell, I know 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.800 what it smells like. Like I every time the boxes 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.120 got bigger and there were more crans in there, it 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.120 was the most exciting thing in the world. So I 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.880 sort of dealt with it like that, and she was 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.320 a Creola cran And then I designed everybody else around them, 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.040 around her, and that's why she had all those primary 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.359 colors and and everybody else, you know, because it's an 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:17.120 ensemble and you guys are together so much, much the 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.720 same as I had when I did Friends. It was 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.160 the same thing. When you have an ensemble cast and 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.280 they're together a lot, it's more about the way it 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:31.520 looks together than it is about the individual fashion because subliminally, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:36.560 you know, we're looking at the screen as a painting, 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.000 so it needs to look beautiful. So that's my main 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.600 concern always, that's the first concern. And then you know, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.560 sometimes you know, I have to have some disappointment about, 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.800 you know, things that work and things that don't, and 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.640 having to adjust that palette. But for the most part, 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:59.600 you know, I designed by palette, and this show fit 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.840 in pretty well. I mean, you know, your character added 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.920 a lot of different silhouettes from Zoe's silhouettes, and also 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.160 some patterns that we didn't really see that often in 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:11.800 her clothes. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.040 Yeah, with Zoe's clothes, I feel like I remember conversations 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.080 about you made right. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.600 Quite a few. We made a lot of her looks 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.719 most of them actually, because she had that you know, 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:33.240 that fifties silhouette, so if it wasn't vintage, and sometimes 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.600 we had a vintage style that worked perfectly, so I 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.200 would knock off a pattern from that and then do 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.520 a series of dresses off of that. But her figure 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.680 was such that that shirt waist showing her waist was 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.560 really the best look for her. So we made that, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.440 and we also made all those jammies she wore. She 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:52.560 wear a lot of pajamas. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.280 You know what's really funny, I have a very clear 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.760 memory of my first fitting with you. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.080 So do I at night downtown at that down Yeah, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:07.159 me too. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.960 Oh my gosh, okay, I took a screen grab of this. Well, 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.159 we'll play. We'll put the picture up properly when we 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.279 put it in the show. It's so funny because again 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.320 it was my first show. I have to show you. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.160 It was this. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.080 Yes, it's like going to focus. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.440 Yes, there the feathers, that's right. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.800 And so I remember, so I've again never done a 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.400 big show. This was my first big thing I'd ever booked, 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.480 and they were like, well, never wants to meet you downtown. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.760 I was like downtown, and so I was not the 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.720 most confident driver. I only learned to drive in La, 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.839 So I'm like trying to like navigate my way, hoping 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.719 I don't die on the way to the fitting. And 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.719 it was a beautiful day, and I think you were 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.479 finishing up something else. I don't even know if it 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.200 was for a new girl, maybe for something else, because 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:56.039 you were in this fabulous, fabulous like warehouse and and 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.440 so I was waiting on the roof. And I remember 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.719 waiting on the roof and it was this beautiful day 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.320 and blue skies, and I was I just couldn't believe 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.360 it was real. I had then been educated on your 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.200 career and who you were, and I was like, I 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.240 guess I'm going to figure out who this character was 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.560 not understanding like there's going to be multiple looks. There's 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.640 going to be your core look. This is going to 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.560 be like a joke photoshoot that you're going for a 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.320 fitting for. I didn't understand all those things yet, and 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.480 so I think someone came I don't know who came 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:28.760 up and like tap me on the shoulder and they 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.120 were like, Debraa's ready, And I came in and they're 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.360 on this rack. Were some of to this day, the 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:41.120 most wild outfits with shoes and like hats that I 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.640 had ever seen in my entire life, and it was 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.919 one of the most fun things I've ever done. So 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.320 what was that space? Where did that conversation come about 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.000 to like go that far with it? 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:58.000 Truthfully, I have a real recollection of it. But I 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.640 don't remember what that company was. I don't know that 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.080 they exist anymore. But I did know that they had 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:10.480 inherited like tons of old McQueen and lots of amazing 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.200 dresses and things that I just wouldn't be able to 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.600 access in other places, and I thought that would be 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.400 like a perfect place to try stuck on it. I 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.320 remember we tried on some McQueen shoes, really weird shoes, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:25.960 and it was really fun. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.000 Yeah, I have pictures of it. I have to find them. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.480 I think it's on my other computer. I have pictures 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.160 from the fitting. You sent me the fitting pictures. I'll 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.040 text them to you too. And their outfits are fabulous, 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.280 I mean they're beyond fabulous. And then I remember that 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.320 that was the outfit that they chose for a scene 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.080 that never made it into the pilot on the cutting 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.160 room floor, I know, but it was so and I 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.680 remember the hair. We just like went for it with 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.120 this incredible look and I was like, this is going 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.400 to be so fun. And I was so nervous, and 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.800 they put me on the stage and then a security 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.400 safety guy came out and was like, nobody speak, nobody move, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:10.160 and they brought in a vulture, like a bird of prey, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:16.560 and I was dressed like a bird, and they were like, 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:21.080 nobody speak because these are like predatory animals and we 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.720 don't want it to get scared. And then I remember 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.360 Aaron O'Malley coming over to whisper to me. She's like, okay, 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.560 so then we're just gonna give you a hand signal 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.840 for action. And then in the scene I was screaming 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:36.720 into the phone dressed as a bird. Well this bird 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.000 was next to me. I was like, this was the 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.920 most surreal experience of my life and that outfit was 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.960 the most incredible thing I'd worn. And then instantly in 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.520 that moment became so terrifying because I felt like I 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:49.840 was a bird. 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.840 It was and it never made it right into it. Yeah, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.320 welcome to my world. Like the most fabulous things I 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.440 think I have ever done in my life. I didn't 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:02.920 make it in the movie because. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.600 No one ever saw. I also have to share another 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.240 memory with you because it was also in that first 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.600 year we got nominated for a Golden Globe. I don't 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.920 know if you remember this conversation, and I was like, 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:16.960 the only person I need to talk to is Deborah. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.880 And I had found a dress and I loved it 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:25.400 so much, and it was green, and I remember having 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.000 you come to my trailer and I was like, I 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.600 want to talk to you in confidence about something. I 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.880 really like this dress. It's great and my first time 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.880 I ever gonna wear like a fancy designer on a 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.800 red carpet, like and I was so worried that Zoe 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.520 would be wearing the same color and that I would 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.720 in any way distract from her by wearing the same color. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.560 It was like old school, like high school thinking, like 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.719 I was just so worried that, you know, like I 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.280 don't know the rules of the red carpet. And I 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.760 remember you gently sitting down with me and explaining of 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.400 all these people's like dresses that you'd had made and 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.240 had done for every like award show, and you were like, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.120 it doesn't matter. Wear the dress that you want to wear, 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.760 whatever it is. Everybody's gonna be wearing every color. And 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:19.959 it was the kindest moment of education and sudden that 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.480 I had nothing to do with our show, but just 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.840 in terms of my own confidence of being able to 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.880 stand in what felt good to me, not in a 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.360 character to be able to go to this honoring and 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:31.880 I had no one else to kind of turn to 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.240 that I would have believed. And I think about that 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.640 all the time, even now when I'd choose an outfit, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.400 I'm always like, oh, it doesn't matter when anybody else 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.200 is wearing or doing or the palette. In those moments, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.320 you can just express yourself and what feels good. And 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.880 that was you. That was you teaching me that in 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.760 taking the time, and I think it was pretty you know, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.760 crazy as always on that show, but you found like, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.880 I don't know, fifteen minutes and sat down and just 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.280 walk me through it in those moments. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.439 I don't know you realize that that's so sweet. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.840 Yeah, it was a really powerful one for me. I 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.000 just have the fondest memories of us being in that 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.240 trailer and we would do these huge fittings and we 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.440 would talk about our lives and our families and our 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:22.520 pain always always and it was you just always had 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.360 that time to share and it was really like you 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.840 and your department was really I think Laura and I 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.560 talk about all the time like that was like family, 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.520 Like it's what made it feel like we were so 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.760 cared for because it was really And you've been on 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.479 a lot of those shows where it's people's first experience 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.840 being kind of thrust out there and they're looking at 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.680 our bodies and then how you guys outfit us, you know, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.440 gives us the confidence or makes us self conscious and 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:50.520 out of our body. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.600 Well, we had Kathy and Megan, who are like my daughters. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:59.640 So Kathy just became a grandmother. If you can believe it, No. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:00.200 I can not. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.160 Yes, what yes? 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.280 Wow? Oh but that's so sea. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.640 So I know I feel like she just had, you know, 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.440 her baby, not that long ago. But it's crazy. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.720 Wow. Yeah, how did you? Okay? So the big question 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.679 is I have been put in charge of this because 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.560 we put a like a call to action out to 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:24.240 the fans about this, and I would say about fifty 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.199 percent of those questions coming in were about Lamarne, about 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.839 Lomarn and the bird shirt. And so I'm going to 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.079 read you this from a fan her name is Amy Caruso. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.600 She wrote, I love listening to the show every week. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.800 Hearing the Debora will be on got me so excited 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.960 because I have a question that's been haunting me for years. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.400 I think this is a big fan theory that we 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.679 all want to know. So, season four, episode twenty one, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.560 Jess and Nick talk about who they are growing old with. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.320 After Nick says he just sees himself next to Winston, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.880 just says, yeahmy too. I just see an ancient Winston 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.840 eating handfuls of bird seed right out of the bag. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.160 He just really gets in to birds. Could you please 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.440 confirm if this was foreshadowing of or the triggering idea 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.959 to Winston's obsessions with bird shirts for the very next season. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.120 What's the background on the birds? 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:17.679 Interesting questions? So I don't think that's the case. However, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.680 I do believe in all of these things that we do, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:26.120 that there is a level of synchronicity that exists with everything. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.280 And you know, what happens in a television show sort 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.800 of mirrors real life. You know that when people ask me, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.040 you know about the characters, and from season to season, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.240 it's like everybody evolves in the same way that we 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.360 evolve as human beings because we're going through these periods 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.960 of time. So I don't think there's a direct correlation 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.640 between the bird seed and the bird And I think 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.120 also what the fans should know is that the biggest 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:03.320 evolution was schmidt evolution in terms of him as a 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.920 person and his personal style. I mean, if you remember 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.520 he was in polo shirts for you know a few seasons, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.080 I think, I mean, and you know a lot of 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:19.800 that doesn't necessarily have to do with me and my ideas, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.160 but has to do with sort of the next level 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:28.920 of writers and people who are giving us the information 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:34.520 about the characters so we can best satisfy. Sometimes we're 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:39.160 at odds, but I am a servant to them. They 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.640 do not serve me. That being said, a lot of 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:49.800 decisions don't necessarily come from me directly. They come from above, 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.840 from the writing. You know a lot of it and 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.760 a lot of the ideas that get generated are things 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.720 that we have to process from information that we get 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:04.560 from the be And in doing that and evolving his 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.000 character to those great shirts, and that became sort of 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.480 an obsession with us because it was a really good 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.080 place for us to be creative, which we're always looking 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.520 for and you know, sometimes you know, once we get 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:23.760 into who these characters are, there's only so much creativity 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.760 that we can insert, unless, of course, we have a 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:31.640 fabulous wedding or we have a reason to create something. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.760 The day to day is pretty much within its little bubble. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.880 So yeah, I knew Girl had a lot of those 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.320 fun episodes. It seems like with like Halloween episodes. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:51.080 Halloween episodes definitely, and hello we had Prince I mean yeah, hello, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.600 probably only the greatest experiences ever. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:01.680 Why, I mean still to this day it feels really surreal. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.040 We're recapping season three right now, which comes off the 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.280 heels of Taylor Swift being in the season two finale. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.560 Did you pick that Elaine dress? Was that provided by wardrobe? 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:13.200 Was that hers? 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.240 No? We those are our dresses? 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.360 How did you decide on that iconical? So many people 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.720 said that they went to the Taylor Swift concert dressed 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.160 as a lane, so like they remade the dress. They 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.680 have like altered dresses to beat the Elaine dress. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.560 Okay, so just so you know, you know, I'm old, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.880 What can I say? You know, like she falls within 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:43.440 a category that like I didn't really know, you know, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.640 it didn't have any more importance than you know, anybody 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.880 else being on the show. The ideation, don't. I didn't 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:55.160 equate her with Prince. Let's put it that way. Okay, okay, 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.840 Prince is my wheelhouse. So for me, Taylor Swift was 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:03.640 like dealing with any other actor that comes in, you know. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.600 And so the dress, you know, we had picked up 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.000 dresses and she was very agreeable. You know, she was 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:16.520 lovely to work with. Easy, So you know, I don't 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.639 remember that much except looking at pictures on her phone 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:24.520 of her cats. You know. That's so. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.159 That's so It's funny, right, those moments where you're just 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.600 like another day, another you know, a guest star, so cool, 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.520 no big deals on you, Hannah, because. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:40.719 Your outfit, you were like, that's what I cared about, 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.040 you know what I mean, Oh. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.360 My gosh, that outfit. That was my first time ever 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.760 going to Artesia ever well going there and I was like, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.119 and you were like, I've been here many times. Let 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.399 me take you to the best stores. And I was like, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.280 what you opened up that whole part of LA to me. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:01.480 I had no idea the best and was so overwhelmed, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.399 like anybody who's gone like Indian wedding dress shopping. I 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.560 had never done that before. It's not like even going 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.920 just for like your white wedding dress, like time's it 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.520 by a million in terms of options. So how did 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.640 how did? I can't even I can't remember, like how 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.840 we landed on what we chose for the wedding dress. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.439 Oh. When I took you there and we tried stuff on, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:29.800 it was like, hands down, it was the most magnificently embellished, gorgeous. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:34.879 Sorry ever, it was like, oh my god. So it 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.560 was there was no competition. You put it on and 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:43.280 it was like whoa, that's the one. Yeah, that was amazing. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.960 It was incredible. I just remember being like, what's little India? 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.280 Like I truly had no idea because I was still 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.639 so new to La and being like wow, okay, so 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.399 you mentioned Prince, so we've got to talk about it, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.080 like how did he was that? Also, Ward, you're bringing 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.520 close to him. I know he does a whole dress 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.679 up sequence with Zoe in phenomenal clothes. What was that? 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.120 So he we were in touch with his people and 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:14.080 they were going to bring sort of we gave them 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.000 sort of things we were looking for and they were 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.360 like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's so tiny 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.959 and his feet were so tiny. So they were going 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:22.840 to bring the shoes and dah da da da dah. 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.640 Oh my god, I'm just thinking about those shoes. Oh 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.000 my god. They were like a wedge and it was 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.479 a clear heel that you could see through, and they 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.840 were just outrageous. Yeah, everything he brought was outrageous. But 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.920 we also had really taken it very seriously and had 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.080 gotten some of the most amazing things from Palace Costume 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.120 in different places, and so we just had an assortment 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.120 of stuff. So he wore his stuff, and he wore 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.640 a little bit of our stuff, and then Zoe wore 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.560 some stuff as well, Right, she puts stuff on. Yeah, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.240 but it was like it was really like an out 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:04.760 of body experience because it was so normal that it 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.520 was weird. Like it was so weird, it was so normal, 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.800 and like, yeah, my conversation with him, sitting in the 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.439 director's chair next to him, we talked about the weather 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:21.760 in Minneapolis, like we had like the most normal conversation 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.560 that you'd have when you meet your cousins in the 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.760 Midwest and you have a little conversation. That's what it 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.440 was like. And I remember the end of the day 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.080 just thinking, oh my god. And I don't know. I'm 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.639 sure you remember, Hannah, when he like in between he 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:38.919 just was sitting on the couch and then he started 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:42.239 playing the guitar. But we were just all trying to 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:46.240 be so cool and it was so not cool. It 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.399 was like, oh my god, Prince is sitting five feet 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.320 away from me and he's playing the guitar and singing, 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.800 Oh my God. Like it was and nobody could emote 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.880 or express themselves really until after because we all had 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.359 to be so cool. You know, we were so cool, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:04.360 and it. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.000 Was so everybody trying to hold it together was the 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:11.320 greatest thing in the world because everyone's just like trying 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.240 to just be like casual and then you would watch 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.400 people like step out for you know, craftier to get 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.720 a snack or something and then just being like, oh 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.720 my god, oh my god, like these like mini heart 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.120 attack moments. 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:28.760 Of like and then Hannah, it's true, right, Like the 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.120 reason he wanted to do it is because he had 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:32.399 a crush. 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:37.040 On our little Hannah. Yeah a Christian you Yeah, it 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.760 was yeah. Yeah. He tried for a very long time. 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.960 He tried for a very long time. To find a 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.040 way to be in the same room together. Yep, And 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.280 I uh, I was not interested in that way. Love 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.600 a Prince song, Happy to a Prince record, I was 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:59.280 not interested in anything else. So I was never in 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.000 the same room with Prince. And then yeah, he uh 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.119 it was like a teenage boy showed up at my job, 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.359 which was really funny. And then that's apparently with people 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.320 that he really likes that to have that time, quality 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.720 time with he likes to he liked to play ping pong, 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.960 and so that's why they I don't know if you 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.440 were still there at that point, but at the night 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.120 it was like five in the morning, they had to 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.240 write in the tag because how were they going to 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:30.720 incorporate ping pong into the show? And they had to 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.560 write this tag where Prince would get his request, which 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.119 was he wanted to play ping pong with me, And 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.080 they saved it as the last thing that we shot 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.520 because they were low key scared that if we shot 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:46.000 that early, he would be east Prince so he could 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.679 be like, Okay, I'm gonna go now, and so we 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.720 saved it for the end. And the thing that I'll 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.800 never ever I don't play ping pong I'm not a 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.400 good ping pong player. I was so tired. It had 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:58.840 been a you know, twenty something our day, and I 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:02.960 just slammed the shot and he had it because I 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:04.600