WEBVTT - “I’M ESCAPING THE SYSTEM”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, what's up? Man? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, fucking way, dude, my name is b B.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? B has life? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Life? Bro? Oh I'm sorry, I'm geeking. I didn't dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been listening to you for years. I never thought

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<v Speaker 2>I would have seen your name pop over on my phone. Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? This is crazy? This is crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, be we're here, Uh, it's December, whatever the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? And we're both alive at this very moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're connected now via a system of over Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>via a thing that is so deeply beyond our comprehension

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<v Speaker 1>as to how it works that it would take us

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime. Maybe not a lifetime, but it would take

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<v Speaker 1>us more time than either of us care to invest

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<v Speaker 1>to really understand the technology behind how you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are connected now. But it doesn't matter who care. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to think about that stuff. All we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is be in this moment with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do that. Ye, what's going on with you? B?

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<v Speaker 1>What tell me about your life?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a lot going on right now, dude, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean yeah, there's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I DJ. I'm just I'm hustling on the side.

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<v Speaker 2>I got three months paid off of my work as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so that has been great. Just been going great.

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<v Speaker 1>You got three months paid off of your work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hell yeah, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a teacher?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, So I work at the bank and I've

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<v Speaker 2>found out about this program that my company offers when

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<v Speaker 2>my coworkers told me about it, Like everyone in the

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<v Speaker 2>company is taking it almost but you can file like

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<v Speaker 2>it's called a leave of absence. I've been going to

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<v Speaker 2>therapy actually thanks to your show for a while, and

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<v Speaker 2>they told me that since I do go to therapy,

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<v Speaker 2>I can just have my therapist sign up on some

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<v Speaker 2>papers that's saying that I'm like I'm too anxious and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't work and everything. So yeah, file had Really

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<v Speaker 2>I've been getting paid. Yeah, Yeah, I've been off. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been off for the last like two months. I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to go back end of this month, but I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to see if i can get it extended to longer.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can get a note from a therapist that

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<v Speaker 1>tells you that you're too anxious to work, and then

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<v Speaker 1>your job has to pay you for three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct at least three months. Yeah, they pay you one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of your rate for three months and then

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<v Speaker 2>after that you can get it extended, but it's only

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<v Speaker 2>going to be at like eighty percent or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? This like a whose program is this?

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<v Speaker 1>This can't be the bank's program. It's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>government program.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's through the bank. But the bank company's

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<v Speaker 2>partners with this third party company that does it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're the ones who are prove it or don't approve it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that therapist pretty much just gave me the paperism

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<v Speaker 2>was like, here, just just tell me what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I'll sign up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, what's the incentive of the company to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Literally nothing, I guess, just to provide like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a I don't know, honestly, just to provide time off

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<v Speaker 2>for their employees who genuinely do like feel too anxious

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<v Speaker 2>and sue because it is stressful working in the bank.

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<v Speaker 2>You think we just like kind of punch numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>get people cash and take cash from people and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But it's so much deeper than that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so many different rules and regulations and they go do

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<v Speaker 2>audits and shit like that. It actually is right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I'm sure it is. I guess my one

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<v Speaker 1>My thing is, I'm just like, uh, it's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do, but I don't know if banks are

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<v Speaker 1>in the business of kindness, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is the There's gotta be something behind

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<v Speaker 1>it of like why they're doing I'm just curious, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the third it's the third party that they're getting with.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say the name of the company

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<v Speaker 2>and blow my spot up because I'm not even supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be. I'm not even supposed to be. I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be in my little height hole in my room,

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<v Speaker 2>away from the world, trying to trying to trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get better and not be so.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well whatever, we don't have to talk about capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>We can talk about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I don't know. It's been going great during

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<v Speaker 2>this time off. I've just been hustling, man. I'm learning

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<v Speaker 2>how to day trade. I'm three D printing ship and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reselling it. Actually had a trade show here in

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<v Speaker 2>about like two hours. I got ahead over there to

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<v Speaker 2>go resell some three D printed ship and I DJ

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<v Speaker 2>too as well. I've just been I've just been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of moving and grooving, man, using this time to my advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>You're learning how to day trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yep, like crypto, I'm doing like foreign exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>So like okay, so you ever you ever look at

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<v Speaker 2>like the race of like US dollars to like euros,

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<v Speaker 2>like that exchange rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, no, I know, I know, I know four X.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're like you're like watching the chart of like

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<v Speaker 1>how many how many like Zimbabwe dollars are are going

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<v Speaker 1>up and down and then trade them for Okay, now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you can make money on that, on that

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<v Speaker 2>value that changes all the time. You can make money

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<v Speaker 2>on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you how much money have you lost doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean trading overall or just in four X, because

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<v Speaker 2>because in trading, I mean I've done I've gone anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>from like doing stock to crypto to commodities like silver

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<v Speaker 2>and gold and ship I've traded for a while, but

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<v Speaker 2>with four X, I just started not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But I haven't. I haven't lost any real money in

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<v Speaker 2>four X yet. I'm like trading. I'm trading with a

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<v Speaker 2>simulated account. I'm going to challenge. They gave me an account

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<v Speaker 2>with like one hundred grand and they had to make

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<v Speaker 2>ten grand on it in like sixty days, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I get to keep eighty percent of the profit that

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<v Speaker 2>I make on the account.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, slow down, who First of who's they? And then

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<v Speaker 1>is this real money?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's not real money in the account yet? And

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<v Speaker 2>they it's called it's called it's called an FLMC. So

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<v Speaker 2>they they like, you pay five hundred bucks and they

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<v Speaker 2>give you an account with us with like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>grand in it of simulated money. And if you pass

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<v Speaker 2>this challenge of making ten grand in the account, then

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<v Speaker 2>after that they give you like a real account with

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<v Speaker 2>real money, and then any money that you make in

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<v Speaker 2>that account, then you get to keep eighty percent of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You pay this company five hundred dollars and then they

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<v Speaker 1>give you a They give you one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of fake money. And if you can turn that one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars of fake money into one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars of fake money, then they will give

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<v Speaker 1>you one hundred thousand dollars of real money that you

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<v Speaker 1>can keep turn into real money, can try to real money,

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<v Speaker 1>and then give them a percentage of the real money.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yes, sir, that is right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's dope as hell. It's called the f

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<v Speaker 2>MC challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so basically, they give you this money to be

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<v Speaker 1>they give you this fake money to be like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>are you are you good at trading? And then there

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Then they're like, okay, here's some money to

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<v Speaker 1>trade with. But then but then okay, but here's the thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a lot okay four x right, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this trading stuff isn't a lot of it? Like luck?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, So couldn't you theoretically with your fake money

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<v Speaker 1>get lucky and then when they give you the real

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<v Speaker 1>money just lose it all?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, I mean at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>I always tell people who are interested in it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>always a fifty to fifty chance either it going your

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<v Speaker 2>way or not, because what you're really doing is just

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<v Speaker 2>betting on on on on your currency or whatever you're trading,

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<v Speaker 2>going up or down. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. So you always have a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty chance, But it always depends on like how

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<v Speaker 2>many confirmations or how many things you can stack in

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<v Speaker 2>your favor to give yourself a better chance, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be like an eighty twenty chance. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's it's kind of that simple. Honestly, it's simple.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems complex just because people see red and green

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<v Speaker 2>candlesticks and there's charts and shit all over the screen,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's actually very simple. No.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm asking you. But what I'm asking you is,

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<v Speaker 1>is it what's the difference between this and like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the difference between this and if I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, here's one thousand fake dollars to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the casino with, and if you can make that into

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten thousand dollars, I'll give you real

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<v Speaker 1>money to go to the casino with.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, I guess in that logic, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the same thing, pretty much the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it is. So it is still kind of gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'd say, I'd say just more aculated gambling,

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<v Speaker 2>just because again I'm looking at different type of what

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<v Speaker 2>we call indicators to kind of stack the odds in

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<v Speaker 2>my favor versus like the house pretty much always wins.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, with gambling, the house is pretty much going

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<v Speaker 2>to win with a majority of the time. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there's people who make who are like eighty percent

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<v Speaker 2>accurate and they're making the killing. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be eighty percent accurate at the casino

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're counting card or some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're trading, and are you I guess, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess are you lifetime up in trading?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say I'm pretty break even. I'm not like a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do it for a living. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm just doing on the side, just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make some money, trying to beat this economy. Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to stack up as many things as I can

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<v Speaker 2>to help me out. And thankfully I met a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who who has made it, has who does do that

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<v Speaker 2>for a living, and he believes in me enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to like fund me and know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>he bought that account for me and everything, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>been kind of mentoring me.

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<v Speaker 1>This ironically sounds more anxiety inducing than working at a bank.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's a different type of anxiety. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you could say. I mean, yeah, because happen to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with people and then dealing with their problems, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know people people hold their money to a certain

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<v Speaker 2>standard and when shit is like not right in their account,

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<v Speaker 2>they freak out and they flip out in front of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the bank. That that can be Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>can be a lot too, because I've had like six

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<v Speaker 2>year old women come in and be like, I had

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars in this bank. What the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are charging me at three dollars fee. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>bro fucking I can't help that. I don't make commission

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<v Speaker 2>off of this. I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get enjoyed in telling you that you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>pay us five dollars a month to keep his killing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like that guy from South Park who's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take you one hundred thousand dollars and put it

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<v Speaker 1>into a money market mutual fund and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone and it's gone. Yeah kind of yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>banking is pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, okay, So you're trading, Okay, So you this is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so fascinated by your situation. So that so that

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<v Speaker 1>your bank. So you got a note from a therapist

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<v Speaker 1>that tells your bank that they have to give you

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<v Speaker 1>three months paid leave off and you're using it to

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<v Speaker 1>trade commodities. That's the first thing, and then what are

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<v Speaker 1>the other things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just running a whole bunch of side quests, honestly, man.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. I've been three D printing

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<v Speaker 2>like a whole bunch of cheesy holiday stuff, so like

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<v Speaker 2>Santa hats and earrings and stuff like that. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just three D printing items to resell at a trade show.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm djaying too as well. On the side. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been djaying for like ten plus years.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done a whole bunch of different events for celebrities

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<v Speaker 2>like Jamie Fox and shit like that. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I moved states from California to Texas. I

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<v Speaker 2>just have been kind of trying to grumb my name

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<v Speaker 2>out here and it's been working. So yeah, just just

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<v Speaker 2>there's three D printing stuff and then DJing.

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<v Speaker 1>What so you said you used to dj for celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get involved in doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Just living in LA honestly, man, just just word to mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I hate to too my own home,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretty good at what I do DJing, so

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people just they'll come up to me

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh, hey, I got this gig, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to spin for this and this and that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, of course, I'll do it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>usually from there again, it's like a domino effect, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do one gig and then I'll get another gig

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<v Speaker 2>from that gig, or like someone that followed me on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram from the gig or something. It's kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just snowballs from there. M m.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what have been your recent DJ gigs?

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, I've been, I've been. I've been a regular

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<v Speaker 2>at this place out in Fort Worth. I'd spend there

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<v Speaker 2>every Friday night. And then from there I met the

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<v Speaker 2>owner of like one of their one of their other

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<v Speaker 2>companies that the guy owns, so he wants me to

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<v Speaker 2>start spending there on Saturday. But tonight I got to

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<v Speaker 2>go DJ there after I finished selling this three D

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<v Speaker 2>printing stuff at the show.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you three D printing?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Just a whole bunch of holiday stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 2>got like like reindeer headbands, I got like snowflake eaterings,

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<v Speaker 2>I got like Christmas tree ear rings. I got I

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<v Speaker 2>printed out like a little like uh six seven uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally just like a pair of numbers assist sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has like the hand and like you can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of flexible with the legs, so it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>little like like a little action figure. I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>could say I'm printing out like little mini Christmas trees

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, just cheesy little stuff that people

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<v Speaker 2>will want to buy for their kids or for as gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>I printed out like wallets too as well, like little

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<v Speaker 2>cardholder wallets.

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<v Speaker 1>M yeah, so what are you What are you anxious about?

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<v Speaker 2>It was honestly just my job, man. It's just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. While I'm there, I feel like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>for a lack of better words, it's felt like a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking loser, dude. I don't know. It's just like the

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<v Speaker 2>people that I work with, they've been with the company

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<v Speaker 2>for thirty years, thirty forty years in the same position,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, dude, I know I'm meant to do

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<v Speaker 2>so much more than this, Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be stuck, you know what I'm saying, Waiting for waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for for wire come for me, and I just see

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<v Speaker 2>it for Jamie Fox last year, Like you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, I felt like such a loser there. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just while I'm there, and then again, the customers

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<v Speaker 2>that you got to do with are kind of unbearable.

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<v Speaker 2>Like people come in pissed off and the systems are down,

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<v Speaker 2>or like a lot of a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of old people still come in the bank, so a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them are just s nile and wondering where

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<v Speaker 2>this came from, or wondering whether the money goes or

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<v Speaker 2>like like one of my last days, I remember while

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<v Speaker 2>I was there, I had I had to stop this

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<v Speaker 2>guy from sending out one hundred thousand dollars to PayPal.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, why the hell are you sending PayPal

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars? And he was like, oh uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they overcharged me for something from Macavie, so I'm sending

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<v Speaker 2>the money back. I'm like, bro, what So he told

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<v Speaker 2>me the whole story and he ended up almost getting

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<v Speaker 2>scammed h because some guys did. They took over his

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<v Speaker 2>computer and a whole bunch of stuff. So I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up stopping that that was fraud going on. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just a lot, man, a lot at listen.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I just want to just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so with you. If so, I'm so with you

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<v Speaker 1>because if because for it, Like, if you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a bank to pay you for three months of not working,

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<v Speaker 1>you should totally do that. You should you should totally

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and then you should totally spend those three

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<v Speaker 1>months trying to figure out how to make enough money

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to go back to work at

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<v Speaker 1>the bank. I'm very I think you have I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally with you. I don't. I think I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this everything you're doing, weirdly makes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sense to me because I think, what's everyone because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows everyone knows that that and you got to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful with it, I think. But like everyone knows that

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<v Speaker 1>people are out there making all sorts of crazy money

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<v Speaker 1>doing whatever the fuck four x crypto, whatever the fucking bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever thing is. I mean, you've got to be careful

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not what is it? You're not like gambling

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<v Speaker 1>away all of your savings and money. But yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're smart because you're like, I'm gonna get some fucking

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do this simulated money, whatever the fuck thing

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you're not risking a lot like it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you seem like you've mitigated your risk and increased

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<v Speaker 1>your upside. So I respect that. I respect that because

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<v Speaker 1>you got to make you know, that's the thing, right is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to not be like that guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>been working at the bank for thirty years, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make some swings. I respect it. And if you can,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get the if you can tell the

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<v Speaker 1>bank that you're anxious and make and make the downside

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<v Speaker 1>of taking your swings lower, you should totally do that

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<v Speaker 1>ship exactly. I respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometime I'm trying to reduce my nut and increase

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<v Speaker 2>my income.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well it's hard out there, right because you

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<v Speaker 1>need money to do everything that there is. And then mhm,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, you're putting you like you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking swings. I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, dude, I'm trying. You got to. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm young right now, I'm I'm in a very unique

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<v Speaker 2>position to where I can't take risks like this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to take all the risks that I can, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying to be able to uh again,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, just not have to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>work if I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>You told me, you said that you're homeless. You said

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<v Speaker 1>that in a text.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So so technically I was supposed to move out

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<v Speaker 2>of my place like last week or two weeks now,

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<v Speaker 2>like last week.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, my credit is shot thanks to my mom, so

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really get approved for anywhere else. So they

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<v Speaker 2>they technically I think they were supposed to kick me

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<v Speaker 2>out last week. But I've been talking to them to

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<v Speaker 2>see if I can just resign in my place now

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<v Speaker 2>because they wouldn't have to do a credit check and

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<v Speaker 2>I can just I can just move unit. But they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't got back to me, so I'm kind of just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of just waiting nothing to kick me out

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<v Speaker 2>or like if they're going to talk to the office

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<v Speaker 2>people about like let me stay longer or something. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't really know. I don't really know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with it. I'm kind of just waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>How did your mom fuck up your credit?

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<v Speaker 2>Shud. That's a whole another story too. Man. She's she's

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot. So when back in like what like

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<v Speaker 2>during during like COVID time a few years ago, she

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<v Speaker 2>was like pretty suicidal and shit like that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>on top of that, she had just had her car

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<v Speaker 2>like repode, and she my mom is very like she's

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<v Speaker 2>not a typical mom, Like she doesn't sew and knit

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<v Speaker 2>and make hot chocolate and bake and shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she she's kind of like a young mom. She

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<v Speaker 2>had me young, so she's more or less worried about

0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.800
<v Speaker 2>like her her her image on social media and to

0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 2>her friends and shit. So she she needed a car

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<v Speaker 2>right away and wanted to get another car, but she

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't obviously because she her credit was shot. She had

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<v Speaker 2>just got a repost. So she had me put a

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<v Speaker 2>car for her under my which I was already kind

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<v Speaker 2>of skeptical about, but she I was like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my mom, you know what I'm saying. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to help her out with all the stuff that she's

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<v Speaker 2>going through. She's been through for me. So I signed

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<v Speaker 2>my name for a car for her, and it went

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<v Speaker 2>well for a while, but then I started getting calls

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<v Speaker 2>and saying that she was like laid on the payment

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<v Speaker 2>or that she had missed a payment and everything. So

0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the car ended up ended up getting repote, and that

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<v Speaker 2>shit ding my credit really hard, and then as well,

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<v Speaker 2>on top of that, during COVID time, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you remember, but they were doing some type of

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.400
<v Speaker 2>like rent assistance program, so it's like you couldn't pay

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<v Speaker 2>your rent air quotes, they would cover your rent during

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<v Speaker 2>COVID if you did all this paperwork and talk to

0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 2>the leasing office. Did it's like shit, And apparently she was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was doing that, but she never finished up the process.

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<v Speaker 2>So once we moved out, I got a ding on

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<v Speaker 2>my credit for like forty thousand dollars and like due

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<v Speaker 2>rent because she didn't finish the paperwork and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like technically on paper I got, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a car reponent in my name for her, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I got like forty thousand dollars in like due rent

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<v Speaker 2>for this place that she kind of screwed me on

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 2>too as well. And on top of that, she took

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<v Speaker 2>out like three or four different iPhone lines in my

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<v Speaker 2>name and just kind of kept the phones and never

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 2>like returned them. So I got I got digged for

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<v Speaker 2>that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said she's obsessed with social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, she's. Yeah, she's on TikTok live and shit

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's she doing?

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.199
<v Speaker 2>She I mean, she just she's she's just she just

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.199
<v Speaker 2>wants to be an influencer. I think she owns like

0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 2>her own medical spot, so she's like kind of advertising

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 2>for that. But I think she kind of just got

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:33.359
<v Speaker 2>lost in thoughts and now she's just trying to be

0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.679
<v Speaker 2>like an influencer. So she'll like go TikTok live and

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<v Speaker 2>go to pilates and shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean, is it working for her or is

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<v Speaker 1>it like a detriment to her existence in yours?

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't really know. I don't really ask

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 2>her if she's getting paid from it or anything like that.

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I just I just know that she's doing her She's

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:55.719
<v Speaker 2>talked to me about it before. I was like, okay,

0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it's cool. I just I don't know. The credit shit

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 2>has stopped me from doing a lot in my life.

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I wanted to get a new motorcycle because I

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:05.560
<v Speaker 2>ride bikes and I wanted to get another one, but

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't, obviously, because no one will approve me. I

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.919
<v Speaker 2>wanted to trade in my car and I can't. I

0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 2>wanted to move into a new apartment. I can't. So

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:13.959
<v Speaker 2>it's like, shit that she's done is really kind of

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.400
<v Speaker 2>hindered me like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, how's your guys' relationship in general?

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 2>It was good, it was good, but i'd say, after

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.680
<v Speaker 2>this and like another incident that happened, is just I

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's not the same. It's not the same,

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Like we're all right. Like she'll I'll call her randomly

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 2>and she never answers, but then she'll text me and

0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 2>like say with stuff and shit like that. But I

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:36.800
<v Speaker 2>mean it's cool. I mean, she she sends me from

0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.920
<v Speaker 2>like money for groceries and shit if I really really

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 2>need it, because I hate asking for help, Like that's

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:42.399
<v Speaker 2>one thing about me that I need to work on,

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<v Speaker 2>but I fucking hate asking for help. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>just super down bade one day and I was like, look,

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any groceries in my house. You know

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. I can't eat, so I need to

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<v Speaker 2>get some food. So she sent me some money for groceries.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, maybe she's trying to get better, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be there for me, but it's just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know's she's she screwed me in a really big way

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<v Speaker 2>that like it's hard to just do life, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. It's kind of hard to forget her

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<v Speaker 2>for all that.

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<v Speaker 1>M h are you only child?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a stepsister that I don't I've never really

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<v Speaker 2>got along with.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so your mom's remarried. No, no, well was

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<v Speaker 1>your dad's remarried?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, my real dad was locked up. And then

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.600
<v Speaker 2>she met this one dude who's been in my life.

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.880
<v Speaker 2>He's a ship, but yeah, he was in my life

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<v Speaker 2>since I was born, and he had a kid with

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 2>my mom, and then they got divorced and then we

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<v Speaker 2>moved away and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so yeah you go oya. She's a half sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And she doesn't live where you live.

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Nah.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole family's kind of pretty divided, so I mean

0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 2>we don't really that's another thing. Like on holidays, I'll

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 2>just spend them by myself and ship. But now she

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 2>lives out in Louisiana. She goes to LSU. My mom

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<v Speaker 2>lives out in Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Your mom's in Houston, and where are you?

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in like the like the DFW area.

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, right, that's not that far, but yeah,

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a whole city away.

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Ye, Like it's like a five hour drive.

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hm hmm. So do you So do you have

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<v Speaker 1>like any do your friend's family, like who's around, who's

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<v Speaker 1>around Dallas?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, it's just kind of just me and

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:36.959
<v Speaker 2>my pets against the world. Man.

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't really.

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't really. I mean, I I have some some

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 2>people like I'm cool with, but I don't really Like

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 2>it's no, there's nobody in my life that I can

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of just call and kind of just shoot the

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 2>ship with, you know what I'm saying. That's just I'll

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 2>see people like like my DJ gigs, then I'll be like, oh, hey,

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 2>what's up. Like we'll be cool. But it's nobody that

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 2>I can just go, I don't know, just go to

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 2>the movies or go paintballing with. You know what I'm saying.

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>There's nobody in my life like that I had. I

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 2>had a girlfriend, but that that ship went at that situation.

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>With what did you grow up in DFW?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I grew up in in In. I grew up

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 2>in LA like Los Angeles area.

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, wow, why'd you move to Texas?

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Kind of just to get away?

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it's just I just I saw the.

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I did.

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Everything was just getting so expensive, and I knew a

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 2>guy that was making like six figures a year and

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 2>he was still living paycheck to paycheck. So I'm like,

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know how the hell I'm

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>going to do this. So I kind of moved away

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>just to kind of, yeah.

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Do that.

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>And obviously Texas was the promised Land after COVID. Everybody

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm moving to Texas, so I kind of

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 2>I joined. I'm a transplant.

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And what happened with your girlfriends? Man?

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 2>A lot a lot? Honestly, she just she just I mean,

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>the latest update is she's just crazy, like abusive. So

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 2>she she caught herself like putting her hands on me

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 2>and ship so I could call the cops. After the

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 2>third time, like the first time, I was like, okay,

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe you know I'm saying I kind of put the

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 2>blame on myself, but I knew it wasn't okay for

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>her to be putting her hands on me because again,

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a household that was that was

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 2>full of domestic violence. That's the reason why I said

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 2>fuck my stepdad because he was like that, so I

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>know what that situation is like. So for so for

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>her to put her hands on me, it was kind

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of like a lot. And then she did it a

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 2>second time, and then she did a third time. So

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.439
<v Speaker 2>I might not screw that dude. I called the cops.

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>So mm hmm mmm.

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I can't How old are you?

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty five, so fow.

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you? Did you? So you don't have any

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>like a whole you don't have any sense of community

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>out that because you're doing a lot of stuff right,

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Like like you talk about like seeing people, seeing people

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>as a DJ gigs, Like how is that?

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you like build like you're out right?

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean I'm out, but I'm not really

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 2>like out, you know what I'm saying. So, so I

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>go to the spot every Friday night and I DJ,

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 2>but it's just me behind the I'm just by myself

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>playing music and stuff. And occasionally I'll get like a

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 2>drunkerl will come up and be like, oh, DJ, don't

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 2>take videos with me and shit. But I mean the

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 2>end of the night, I'm still sleeping by myself. I

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 2>don't really have like a sense of community when I

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean I did when I was riding motorcycles, I

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 2>will go to a motorcycle meet like a damn near

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>every day, So that community was pretty deep. But I mean,

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 2>now that it's cold, it's too cold to ride, everybody's

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 2>kind of just in hibernation or they're just hanging a

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 2>month like their own kind of people, and it's just

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of me. I'm just here here just doing my

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 2>side quest.

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>This in general, I mean the next four months in

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.959
<v Speaker 1>general kind of just suck because it's cold.

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean there's still stuff to do. I mean,

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm a pretty weird guy. I'm into weird stuff. So

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>ill I've been seeing a whole bunch of different events

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 2>that I want to go to. Like there's a Simil

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 2>wrestling events out out in Texas I want to go watch.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a huge sumo fest that I want to go watch.

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>And there's also like ren Fest and stuff like that,

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>so I can. I'll find stuff to enter myself. It's

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, I lacked that sense of like community,

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 2>even like with family and with friends, I don't really

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>have like a community around me. And I mean it's

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's I think it's lonely. But I mean

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm here. I'll tough it out. I got my pets

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>to kind of keep the company.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>But what pets do you have?

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I got two cats and two dogs. I got a

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>pug and a frenchy M.

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Very cute.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah nice, Yeah, I'm my little guys. M. Yeah.

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Community is really important having people around you, is I

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I have noticed I think over let's see, I'm about

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.479
<v Speaker 1>to turn twenty eight, and I've been thinking about my

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>life and things I've learned. And one of the things

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that I have learned, at least for me, and everyone's

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of different, but I've learned over the course of

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>my life the importance of like having somewhere to go,

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>a third space as they call it, because the times

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>in my life where I've had something like that, I

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 1>can distinct divide in my life times where I had

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>something like that and times where I didn't, and the

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>times where I didn't have something like that, which they

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>just were cold, you know, like you got to have

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 1>somewhere to somewhere to be where there's other people around.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I've talked about this a bunch

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>on here, but yeah, it's very important. And they're they're

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>out there, you know, they're out there.

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I just I just gotta keep keep looking.

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I found a whole bunch of cool stuff

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to do, but like you said, it's just the community part.

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I just got to figure out where to go to

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.479
<v Speaker 2>find people that are as weird as me. So, I mean,

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I found this one place. It's called the

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>maker Space. It's out here with a time. I don't

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>know if you know, I don't know if you know

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 2>what a maker space is, but.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there is. They're a chain, aren't they.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know if this place specifically

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>is a chain. But a maker space is I mean

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 2>a maker space Yeah, in general, Yeah, typically is like

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>a thing that's in different cities. But the one I

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>go to specifically, I think it's just that just that company,

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. But but but there are

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 2>other maker spaces, yeah, correct.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I'm kind of I'm sort of part

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>of a maker space. I guess there's a lot around

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>New York where it's like whatever you pay, you pay

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>uh some kind of monthly fee and they have like

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>equipment that you can use and ship like that exactly.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the reason.

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Why I'm running. Yeah, it's dope, dude, and they have

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>classes on everything. I'm actually teaching a class. I'm kind

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>of DJ on Sunday. Uh yeah, yeah.

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>That'd be pretty cool.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'd be cool.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Great, that's awesome.

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>You just you just joined this you just joined to

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>this maker space.

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh No, I've been a member there for a while,

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>but I just I kind of used it previously as

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>like as like a means to start a business. Self

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 2>was doing powder coding there now and doing like three

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 2>D printing, and I think next I'm going to start

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>this whole DJ class adventure because that's where the real

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>money is too, as well as like teaching people how

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 2>to do how to do djaying stuff. I feel like

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people be interested in that. So it's

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>using the space to make some money. Man. Honestly, have you.

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Made any friends of the space or at least like acquaintances.

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've met some acquaintances, and for sure I'm on

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 2>like first name bases with some people. But it's not

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>like it's not again, it's not anything that's gonna be like, oh,

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 2>it's go grab a beer or something like that. It's

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>more or less like you see each other in a

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>space like, oh, hey, what are you working on today? Okay, cool,

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go through my thing there.

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I'm about to drop an unpopular opinion.

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>What's up?

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Hit me? And I actually don't know if I believe

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.959
<v Speaker 1>in this, but this is just I feel. I I

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>almost think it's better to have a lot of acquaintances.

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you think so?

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I almost think so. I'm because

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>like if you have like two for like, I think,

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like if you can go into a place right and

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>there's like twenty people and you're fairly friendly with them,

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and you see them every day and you know, you

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>hang out with them, but like when you go home,

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you're alone and maybe whatever, maybe there's like a social

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>event and you're there whatever, versus like a couple people

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that you know you get. I don't. I guess ideally

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you have both. Ideally you have like a couple people

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>who you're like really really close with and then a

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of acquaintances. But I really I think you know

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>what it comes from is like I just like having

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like a place where you go and you have like

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people, like like back when I did

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like open mics stand up and stuff that was a

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>big thing. It's like you just go you have a

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>bunch of acquaintances because you're just around this thing and

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>even like being part of like a maker space, Like again,

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you have a bunch of acquaintances. I'm almost like it

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>makes you an't it makes you feel like you exist?

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, it is dope being surrunning around other people

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>who are creative and they're working on things too good.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a very I don't want to say it's like

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>a niche thing to be creative. Nowadays, it kind of

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>is a lot of people are just are just boxed

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 2>and just walking around just going to work, waking up,

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 2>going to work, going to sleep, waking up, going to work,

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>going to sleep. Like people is a loss in that loop.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of cool to find people and be

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>around people at least acquainted with people who are also

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>being creative too as well. I mean it, it does.

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>It feels good when I'm there.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you're I mean, yeah, you're I like what

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you're doing because again you're gaming the system, which you

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>have to do. You have to do that in some way,

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>shape or form to a vul the company offers it.

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean it sucks. Your manager obviously doesn't like when

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>you're missing work for three months because they're short staffed already.

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>But hey, if the company offers it and improve it,

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.239
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of out

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>of their hands.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, But you get one life, you know what,

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you should to you get what. It's weird,

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>right because you get one you get one life. And

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>on one hand, that's like, uh, there's something very uh

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>there's a great challenge to that. I'm like, oh, should

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I get one life? I should make my own existence?

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>But you you have to all you have to do

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that in spite of the fact that, uh, you need

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you need a lot of money to just exist. So

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you have you know, so if look, if you can

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>get the I need the money to exist thing as

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>under control, as under control as possible, without as under

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>control as possible, using as little of your finite time

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and energy as possible, then do it. You know, whatever

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>on go on welfare, fucking steal through the people. Don't

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>do that, you know, don't do that. I mean ideal, Look, ideally,

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>ideally we live in a system where our basic needs

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>are uh met more easily. But I guess I'm always like,

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, I'd like to it would be cool

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to live in a system where people didn't have to

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>do that. But as long as we do figure out

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>some way to do it that requires the least amount

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of your energy.

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. And with

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the way that AI and robots and shit's going, we're

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna be in wally r I robuts and so we

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.399
<v Speaker 2>don't even have two words. I guess do you.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Do use AI for anything?

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I use AI to find a bunch of

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 2>different places out in like the DFW area where I

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>can DJYT and I'll have it right the I'll have it,

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 2>get the contact information for those places, give me their

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>emails in a list, and I'll copy and paste their

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 2>emails into like a like a mass blast email, and

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 2>then I'll use the AI to write me like a

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>short and suite introduction interest email to send out to

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>them to see if I can DJ there. So yeah,

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I use it a little bit. I use

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 2>it in my favor stuff like that.

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>That's cool. Do do this though, because I get all

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>kinds of like AI I get, so I get a

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>ton of fucking emails to my inbox that are like

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>where I can tell that they're AI uh or I

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>can tell that they like I'll get like, hell, I'll

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of emails and say like hello therapy.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, like they just like scan you know what

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, They just like scanned like the first thing.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>So like, if you're gonna use AI to masks make

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>your emails or whatever, change the at least the change

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>at least one part of it to make it be like, hey,

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I am sending this email to you, you know, because

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I fucking when I get I hate when I get

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>something that I can but whether it's whether it was

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>written with AI or even if it's just like someone

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>sharing a meme with me. I hate when I get

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>something where it's like I can tell you I'm just

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>one of like a hundred people you fucking sent this to.

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 1>You know that that chip is.

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'll change up the verbiage and everybody down again.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>So if I'm like sending out emails to strip clubs

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.959
<v Speaker 2>that I can DJ, I'll change like the I'll change

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 2>the subject line and like a little bit of like

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 2>the examples of gigs that I've done, or if I'm

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 2>setting out uh, an email to like some skating rinks

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 2>that are near me that I want to DJ at.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll change up like the gigs and the example to

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 2>something of music that I play and stuff like that,

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>so I'll tailor it to the to the audience, the

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>people that I'm that I'm emailing out to. I'm just

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 2>using it as like a marketing tactic because I mean,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it's half the battle is trying to find people that

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 2>that do want to book you because I can. I

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>can keep a gig for sure. I mean, I have

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 2>no problem with that. Again, I'm pretty good at what

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I do, so once I kid the gig, I'm good

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 2>at keeping it. But it's just getting the gigs is

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>like half the battle.

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you like us all? Do you do? You post

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>your own mixes on online and stuff?

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll go live on TikTok every now and again.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm not that big of like a social

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>media guy to like try to go in and edit

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>videos and set up tripods and ship like that. That's not

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 2>really like my thing. I mean, I know, within DJA

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you kind of need to do that, but yeah, I

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh, yeah, you do it's unfortunately. Well that's the thing is,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you can can't really be like, I'm not a social

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>media guy anymore. You know what's hard is like there's

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna here's the thing is, there's it's not

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>going anywhere well because you have you have to make

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>concessions in some way, shape or form. Because it's like

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you could if like if you're like an artist of

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>some kind and you want to be like a bit

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of a purist, it's like it's like a like, if

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you're an artist, you probably I mean not everyone, right,

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 1>not everyone. Some people are totally okay with just like

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>making the thing for the thing's sake, and that's fine,

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's even some virtue to that. I

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>think in my in my soul, I think there's some

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>virtue of that. I have. I have a lot of

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>respect for people do that. But most, I think the

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>majority of artists or the majority of people who like

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>are working really hard to make something. They would like

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to a make money doing it so that they can

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>keep doing it and so that they can and you know,

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>do the things that you need to do a make

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>money doing it and be have people see it, right,

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>because like you work so fucking hard to make videos,

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>make music, make paintings, make whatever like you want, you

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>want you and you like you're making these things because

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>you are trying to express you. You're trying to make

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>your existence valid in some way, shape or form by creating,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and so you want people to see it, you know.

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's like very natural to want people to see

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>your work if you're working hard on it. And the

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>main way to accomplish those two kind of directives of

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 1>an artist are are through social media.

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's another layer two as well. While I'm

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of awful work, I think once I get my

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 2>moving situation kind of planned out, that's what I planned

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 2>on doing too as well. It's just like you ever

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>like roll across some of those tiktoks where it's like

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>a DJ and like a random place of like a

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>kitchen or like their apartment or something that's kind of

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 2>just vibing with a few friends in DJ, and she's

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>like that, I'm thinking about doing something like that, just

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>setting up like my mixture of like my island and

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>my kitchen, yeah, and just playing for like a little

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 2>kick that kind of thing, and using that as like

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 2>content to spread out I'm thinking about doing that, and.

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I also figure it and you also actually bring up

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>a good, uh counterpoint to everything I'm saying now I'm

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it is like, uh, in a weird way

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>with something like what you do, I actually actually I'm

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna completely take back everything I just said. Maybe

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>not everything, but I'll be like, because what you do

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>right where you DJ and you can like throw parties

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>or like whatever, if you're an artist and you you know,

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.399
<v Speaker 1>throw a little gallery or whatever. If you can get

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>ten human beings in real life to perceive your work,

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>or if you're making a movie or a video, you

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>can get twenty people to like sit in a room

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and watch it. That actually that weirdly feels more real

0:39:54.440 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>than getting like twenty thousand Internet views. And then if

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 1>doing what you're saying, if you can combine those two things,

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's cool.

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that'd be ideal, because I mean I've DJed

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 2>for a coliseum, like a stadium worth of people, and

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 2>then I always find out that like it feels more intimate,

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 2>it feels more good. But I'm tjing for like a

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>small intimate crowd of people. So I mean, yeah, I

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 2>agree with what you're.

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Saying, yeah, so maybe you don't need social maybe just

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe you just need five people willing to listen to

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>your thing.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I mean, I get paid the spots that

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I DJ. I get paid if five people show up

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 2>or five people or five hundred people show ups, I

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 2>mean matter to me. But obviously I mean I DJ.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.240
<v Speaker 2>I prefer to just spend for people who for people,

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 2>not for their cricket.

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Now, tell me about these strip club gigs? What are

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>they like?

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're cool. They're cool. I've did on multiple

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>different like types of gigs, but strip club gigs are cool.

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean you get the dancers up to you, like

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 2>request a song or like to tip you to play

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 2>a certain song and stuff like that. I mean it's good,

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>it's cool. It's a cool vibe. Mm hmm, it's pretty cool.

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool, and you get a good show. Like

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 2>you're DJing.

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 1>What's that? What's your what's your craziest gig You've ever done?

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>The craziest as far as like who I've DJed for

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 2>or just like crazy and like the amount of people

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>or like the events that occurred in the in the

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 2>in the gig.

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Let's go both, uh, I mean, I guess I've DJed

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 3>for uh for for Netflix before, for when they like

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 3>their movie screening kind of opening parties.

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I DJ for Netflix. That DJ for Yeah, I did

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it for Netflix. For for Jamie Fox at his house

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 2>a few different times, a DJ for fifty cent at

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 2>a at an opening of a show that he was

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>doing for Power. He had like a little pop up

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of event and DJ four I got to see

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>him and say with something ship like that DJ for

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 2>celebrities and so with the so on that end. But

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the craziest, I mean, I guess that's the DJ like

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 2>the warehouse out in LA. Actually know the crazy is

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 2>probably that I've done was at this TGI Fridays in

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>my hometown when I was growing up. They had shut down,

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>UH and these people that I knew, we were just

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of desperate for money, so they were just kind

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 2>of breaking in and just doing gigs anywhere that they could.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 2>So they we kind of we broke into this TGI

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Fridays that was abandoned and they still had power, and

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 2>we broke in there and then we set up my

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 2>whole DJ said we had people like coming party in

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the in the abandoned TGI Fridays when the swat team

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>showed up and should they kicked us out? We had

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the police helicopters coming out. I just got my mixture

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't wait.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>You had a police helicopter kick you out of the

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>TGI Fridays. What the fuck? Yeah?

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>In this like the swat team came and shipped the

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 2>big ass bear cat. Yeah, they kicked this ou.

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Why'd they call they? Why did they bring in a helicopter?

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I mean in l A.

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I I DJ a lot out in LA, and they're

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of famous for that. Like all the house parties

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff that have got shut down, and I'm DJ four,

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 2>they usually bring a bring a police helicopter. I don't

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 2>know why that is, but yeah, almost all the house

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>parties that have ended like kind of crazily have ended

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 2>up with the with the police helicopter coming to shut

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it down.

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Why did you? I am I am curious. It sounds

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>like you had a pretty good thing going to LA.

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Why did you move to Texas if you had more

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 1>connections over there?

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean just because at that time I was young,

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>was making a lot of money. I had a sugar

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 2>mama and shit like that I was young making a

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of money, but I was just again, I knew

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>a guy who was making six figures and he was

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.439
<v Speaker 2>living paycheck at paycheck. So I was like, I got

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to get my shit together. I need a four to

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>one K. I need to save his account, I need

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>health insurance and stuff like that. So I kind of

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>like matured in that sense, but like now that I'm

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 2>in it, and I'm like, damn, that sucks. I'd rather

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 2>just be DJ and TGF Fridays. Yeah, yeah, I kind

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 2>of touched twenty two And then.

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm sorry. You had a sugar mama.

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I've Yeah, I've had. I've had like two

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 2>or three of them in my lifetimes.

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>But what does that entail? I mean?

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean she she was a she was a porn star,

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and I had met her, and she she wanted to

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>she wanted to to pay me for some sugar, and

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and she did for a while, and I was making

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>really good money actually too as well, making really good

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>money with her. We would just hang out, kind of

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 2>shoot the shit a little bit right in a hotel

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 2>room and then do the thing and go my separate ways.

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I have I have a lot of questions to follow

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>up to this, I'd imagine, how did you meet this

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>porn star?

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh? So I had gotten to a car accident some

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Yeah, I had gotten into a car accident

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>and I had to go to physical therapy, and my

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 2>physical therapist there was kind of hitting on me. And

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 2>again I don't mean to too bune a horn, but

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 2>like I'm I'm I'm six five, I'm I'm athletic, I'm

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 2>a good looking dude. I've been told a few times.

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>So my physical therapist was kind of hitting on me

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, like she was massaged me like a

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>little bit longer than she really needed to, and do

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>these extra exercises with me. And she was like one day,

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>she randomly just came out and said it. She's like,

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 2>you know who I am? And I was like no,

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 2>and she was like google my name and she gave

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>me her name and I googled it and she was

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>a porn star. I was like, oh shit, and I

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>was like that's you know way and she was like yeah.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>She was like would you be interested in getting into

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>like that industry? And at that time I was like, dude,

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, it's like every dude's dream yeah, hell yeah.

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, eighteen nineteen twenty, I'm

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna getting paid to do what I'm trying to do

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 2>all the time anyway, Hell yeah. So I mean yeah,

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I took to dive. I went into it at and

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 2>at one of the auditions I think she had me

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>show up to with like a test fund and just

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of see what's really like behind the scenes of

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like a porno. I had went and there was this

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 2>lady who was shooting a scene and immediately, like as

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>soon as she saw me, she said to the director guy,

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 2>she was like, I want to fuck him. She said,

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 2>he was like, who is that? He is gorgeous. And

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I heard her say and I kind of like blushed up.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 2>It was weird. I never had like a grown ass

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 2>woman just out where me say that to me. So

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I ended up, but you ended up kind of shooting

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the ship, got a number and everything, and then we

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.359
<v Speaker 2>hung out a few times and she told me about

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 2>She told me she was cool. It was like making

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 2>an arrangement with me to to pay me for for

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 2>my time. So that's how that started. I met her

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 2>on a set of a porn Now damn.

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Wait, so this and that was and this was a

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>second lady. What happened with the physic So the physical

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>therapist lady got you into porn, uh huh, and then

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you met the sugar Mama on the set of this

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>porn thing.

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yeah, yep.

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So how so how deep did you go into the

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>porn world?

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean I did my toes a little bit. I

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 2>mean I did like a video or two, but it

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was just I don't know, it's weird, Like it's it's

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 2>very weird because it's like it's not all all hyped

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 2>as it is as it seems to be. Like it's

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>very like you got guy, like I've tryed to do

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>my thing and there's like the cameraman over my shoulder

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of fucking embracing me all up on me and

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 2>he has like a camera over my shoulder. I'm saying

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to do my thing, and like it's kind of I'm

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 2>already kind of like I'm not that outgoing. I'm kind

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 2>of shy when it comes with stuff like that. So

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 2>it was like kind of weird to stay like, for

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>a lack of better words, it's hard to stay bricked

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 2>up like that when there's when there's like eight people

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 2>in the room, and you've got this guy with a

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 2>camera over your shoulder and like behind your butt ship

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>like that. It gets it's weird. So I didn't. I

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't continue it, but I did, like I did like

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 2>two or three videos, and I got paid for it. It

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:36.359
<v Speaker 2>was cool. But it's just I don't I don't think

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I would ever I would ever do it again.

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. You'd rather be trading four X.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd rather be I'd rather just be running a

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of sidequest, just trading four X and DJ

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and and hustling. Honestly, I just I fell in love.

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 2>I fell in love with the with the with the

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 2>thriller of the Chase.

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm hm. And so what this sugar mama like

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you said? You said you had a few. I'm sure, okay,

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 1>So the sugar manta thing like this is an attractive woman.

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's all right. I mean I give her, okay,

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 2>she was an older woman. I mean, she wasn't bad looking.

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 2>She had plastic surgery and ship, so she choose her.

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I give her out of ten, i'd give

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 2>her she I give her like a seven point eight.

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 2>She was all right.

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>How old was she?

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.280
<v Speaker 2>She was late forties, I believe.

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so not at Bath was late in her sixties. Interesting.

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess I was well because I guess I was

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>wondering like that lady could probably just like have sex

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>with some guy without paying him. But I guess I

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>guess she. I guess she wanted specifically you because you're

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 1>six five beautiful.

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so, I guess so uh for me?

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Hmm, okay, So why did that? How did that dissipate

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>or did it just kind of just kind of ran

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:00.760
<v Speaker 1>its course.

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 2>It just kind of just ran its course. She just uh,

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 2>she she kind of realized she was getting older and everything,

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and she didn't have kids. And I was kind of

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 2>in it just to do my thing and make some

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:14.839
<v Speaker 2>money and go my separate ways. But she ended up

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>offering to pay me like twenty grand to like put

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>a baby in her, and I was like, eh, I

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 2>want to do all that. So we houcked up maybe

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 2>like two or three times after that, but it just

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 2>got kind of weird because I know that's what she wanted,

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>So I can't even I can't do this anymore. It

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 2>ran its course.

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>You said you had a few of these.

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've had I've had like I think I've had

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:39.319
<v Speaker 2>like two, I've had like two or three.

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how did you find the other ones?

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh? The other one. I was working at this job

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and like a pretty I was working on this corporate

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>job and there was like this older lady. She was

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 2>probably like mid like mid forties too as well, but

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:54.919
<v Speaker 2>she seemed like kind of young and fun and hip

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 2>and shit. So I kind of I kind of like

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 2>started to form a little attraction for her. So we

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 2>hung out a few times that I invited her out.

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 2>She was reluctant, of course, because I'm in my twenties

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and she's in her forties. She was kind of like

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 2>reluctant to kind of hang out with me. But I

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 2>finally cracked her. One day. I cracked her. I got

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 2>it to go out to drink with me, and we

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of just we kind of just hit it off.

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 2>From there. We started hanging out and she started buying

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>me like work clothes and shit like that. That's that's

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 2>one thing too, I will say about like dating older women,

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 2>which I kind of prefer, is like they'll they'll they'll

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.919
<v Speaker 2>take care of you many I really will take done

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.879
<v Speaker 2>like kitty women my age but yeah, he's older women. Man,

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's the wave. Man. I'm telling you. They

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 2>knowlder women is the waves.

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So I get I guess, are you how do I

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 1>say this? Are you gonna continue monetizing? Uh?

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>How beautiful you are?

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Are there like could you be a model or something? Nah?

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Nah, I don't. I mean I've been. I don't really

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 2>feel that way about myself, but I get told it

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot. But it's just I don't know. I don't know.

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 2>It's weird.

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I have my days where like I'm filling myself.

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, damn, I do look good. But the majority

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 2>of the time I'm kind of just I don't know.

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I keep my head down. I'm not really trying to

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, do all that. I'm just

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just here. I'm just trying to trying to hustle. Man.

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Are you Are you dating at all?

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Not at the moment, since that last situation went kind

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 2>of bad. I mean I mean, I mean, yeah, no,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really dating them. Yeah, I mean I'm on

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>the apps, but they all go to shit. I mean,

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 2>you send that a like out to the universe and

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't go anywhere. So mm hmm, yeah, I'm not. I'm

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of just focusing on the on the time that

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I have off right now, just trying to hustle and

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>make it so I don't have to go back to

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 2>work if I don't want to.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.959
<v Speaker 1>You sound like you sound like you've had a cool,

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>fun life so far.

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's been all right, It's been

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>all right. I've had my ups and downs, but I

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 2>can definitely uniquely say that I've done a lot of

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 2>things in my lifetime, but a lot of people have

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 2>never got to do so. I mean, I take pride

0:51:58.560 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 2>in that I look back at my memories of my

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 2>photos sometimes I'm like, damn, I was really I was

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>really sixteen skipping school to go DJ at the Coliseum

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 2>in LA and to go to go DJ for two chains,

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and then had to go to school the next day

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 2>and walk around like you people don't even know what

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the hell I just did yesterday, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I've had a lot of time. I've had a lot

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of shit like that in my life where I'm like,

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm I feel really blessed. I've gotten to

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of really cool things with my life

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in the last like ten years.

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.399
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, you're like, I agree, man, you haven't

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:34.800
<v Speaker 2>had to like work an actual job, which fucking sucks.

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's cool. I mean, this is a job,

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:38.359
<v Speaker 2>and like, of course you have like your your ups

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 2>and your down days, but you're in a very unique

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 2>position too, where you don't you don't have to you

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 2>don't have to deal with other people's bullshit like on

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 2>a day day and then have to clock in and

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 2>have to do all that. You're in a very unique position.

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's the reason why I listen to you.

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's very cool. Like I respect people who

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 2>are hustle and who who want to work for themselves,

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>and you've kept it up for a very long time.

0:52:58.600 --> 0:52:59.280
<v Speaker 2>It's inspiring.

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you saying that, and I listen, you sound

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>like you're on your way to your version of that

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>because you're I think what I think. I genuinely do

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>believe with this kind of stuff, it is a bit

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>of a matter of just like continuing to hack at it.

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I of course I have survivorship bias, but uh,

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it is almost inevitable if you just

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>keep hacking things I mean, I don't know. I mean shit, man,

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I like even even I guess, like in my own life,

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like even though like things have been going well with

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>this with the podcast and stuff, like, I'm still everything

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you create for yourself becomes its own. Prison is not

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a good word, but its own.

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh capsule, like it's on yeah, like it's on obligatory, Like.

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>It's it's an obligation. Yeah, it's on obligation. And I

0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what's funny is if you're the kind of

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 1>person who's always I've I'm the kind of person I'm

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>always trying to escape, you know, even and and like

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I you escape something and by creating something else, and

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.400
<v Speaker 1>then you try to escape that. Like a good example

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 1>is like I'm always like thinking about like, oh, once

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna escape this city and move to

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 1>this new one. And then you keep that goes on

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 1>like an infinite thing of like one day I'll move

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.360
<v Speaker 1>here and then then like I like, it always just

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>keeps going, you know what I mean. But that's good.

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>That's how like life evolves. That's how you stop staying.

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 1>That's how you stop you know, That's how you get

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.919
<v Speaker 1>to a point where you're fucking seventy eighty years old

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, damn, we ran the gamuts. But also

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's also but it's also how you get to

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 1>seventy eighty years old and be like, wow, I have

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>no family and friends and it was all for nothing. Sorry, Yeah,

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 1>find that. I thought you would find that funny and

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>not depressing.

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I mean, that's that's the goal. I mean,

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I again, I would rather have my obligation and my

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.799
<v Speaker 2>prison be working for myself then haspen to work at

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 2>a company where I'm there and not really progressing for

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 2>fucking thirty years, like I have much rather have my

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:15.239
<v Speaker 2>prison that that that I'm interested in and uh that

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 2>that I that I want to do, versus doing something

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like I have to do.

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, of course, of course prison is not a

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 1>good word. Prison is not what I meant.

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I know what you mean, but just

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 2>for a lack of terms, I was throwing that turn

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:29.359
<v Speaker 2>back at you, I know exactly what you mean.

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but it's good. I mean I think well

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:36.359
<v Speaker 1>because also because the the kind of people who do

0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like uh like, such as yourself, who do have this

0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:43.800
<v Speaker 1>thing and then that want to keep evolving. I don't

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>think it. I don't think it goes away, you know

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So like you'll start so like you'll

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:50.880
<v Speaker 1>start like uh like maybe one day one of your

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>three D printed prints will pop off and you'll be

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>making three D prints, you know, and you're like, Okay, great,

0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I finally escaped the rye race and making a living

0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:01.400
<v Speaker 1>off three D prints. But you're gonna have something in

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:03.439
<v Speaker 1>you that's like, oh, but I want to do this too,

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And I want to do this too, you know, because

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>because it because you have a thing within you that

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>makes you want to just keep evolving. And you know,

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>but that's good. That's good. It's a good thing to have.

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it's a good thing to have. And

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's very dope to to continue to

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 2>chase that because then again, I I have scatter brain.

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I have so many different ideas and thoughts and everything,

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's dope to actually like when I put when

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I put some some effort towards like the thought that

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I had that I think would be a good idea,

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it's always rewording. Well.

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I I'm rooting for you. I think it's

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>all really cool. I think you're I think you're a

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 1>cool guy. I think I have a lot of respect

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>for you that you're, you know, like really making a

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 1>good life for yourself after you know, dealing with some

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 1>difficult circumstances and ship. I got a lot of I

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of respect for you, man. I think

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it's cool. I appreciate you sharing all this stuff with us.

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks man. Yeah, it feels good to kind of

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 2>talk about it and kind of like reflects on all

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the crazy cool shit I've done because I get down

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'm like, damn, I don't really have anybody. I'm

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 2>not really doing like enough. Sometimes it's like I'm not

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:06.919
<v Speaker 2>doing enough, like sitting here talking to you in the phone,

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, damn, I've lived like four different, four

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 2>different crazy as life.

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Well that's what it takes, because yeah, of course, because

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.479
<v Speaker 1>that's what it takes, is to like cause you only

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 1>get you.

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, once you start like like really like reflecting on

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>your life, it can kind of bring out like it

0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>can help you sort of thwart whatever narratives you've created

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>for yourself. Do you want to plug you? Do you

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 1>have like a DJ thing you want to plug? I

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know if after. I don't know if you want

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to identify yourself, but if you do, it's fair game.

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will screw you. I'll do it. It's just it's

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 2>just my name. So it's just spelled out. It's on

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Instagram and it's on TikTok and everything, but it's it's

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Gray Jean my name. So it's B like boy r

0:57:53.160 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 2>A Z like zebra ja B what that's long weird,

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 2>got a long ass name. So it's B like boy

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 2>r A Z like zebra j h A N. And

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 2>then I should pop up right there and.

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Peat and Jean. Yeah, it's the moment you have. Your

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 1>name is written in Arabic. Right, Oh okay, this is okay.

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:26.919
<v Speaker 1>This is definitely not you.

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 2>B R yeah, B R A Z j h A

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 2>N N N three.

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, only I put one N on there, yeah

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 1>three yeah three? Oh there we go. Okay, look at this.

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh this is the look cool man? Hell yeah sick.

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I love yeah, I love this picture of you DJing

0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>with the orange and ship. That looks cool.

0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. One of my buddies took that shot. That

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 2>was like mide me up club out in l A.

0:58:58.800 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 2>That was a pretty good night.

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Cool man, well, brajeon, this is this is great talking

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>to you man. Uh, I'm ins I'm inspired by the hustle.

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm inspired by this. This was this was this was

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>an enjoyable conversation for me. I appreciate you sharing everything.

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Is there? Is there anything else you wanna say to

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer or talk about or whatever

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:25.640
<v Speaker 1>else about life before we go?

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Nah? Man, just fucking Catalina wine, mix your boats.

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 1>And hose swag. Thank you, I'll good luck to you, man,

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you around the universe.

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks, see you lady man. Good quess.

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I liked that guy a lot. I liked that, you know,

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>clearly he's got clearly he's facing like a lot of challenges,

0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, with like his fucking family situation and fucking

0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, the general mental anxiety that comes with UH

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:05.240
<v Speaker 1>being alive on the planet. And I don't know, I

1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 1>like the way he's uh. I like the way he's

1:00:07.720 --> 1:00:09.520
<v Speaker 1>doing it. I have a lot of respect for it.

1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I saw, like while I stream these phone calls live

1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:17.440
<v Speaker 1>on Twitch, and I saw people in the chat saying

1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that he might have been making all this stuff up.

1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking about this just in general. On

1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:28.320
<v Speaker 1>this podcast about like, oh, are people making stuff up?

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:28.800
<v Speaker 2>You know?

1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Like that, Like I posted a clip from the woman

1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:41.120
<v Speaker 1>who talked about what is It who talked about meeting

1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that homeless guy on the streets and sleeping in the

1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 1>train station with him, and everyone was like it's fake

1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:49.920
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And listen, I'm telling you, as the part

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of things, as the person taking all

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:56.360
<v Speaker 1>these phone calls and talking to all these people, I

1:00:56.560 --> 1:01:02.720
<v Speaker 1>really very rarely, if ever, like if like, I really

1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:08.400
<v Speaker 1>rarely think that people are making stuff up personally, no

1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:12.280
<v Speaker 1>offense to anyone, but I'm gonna throw this out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the people who tend to go on the

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:19.480
<v Speaker 1>internet and be like this person's story is fake are

1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:24.480
<v Speaker 1>people who haven't really lived a lot of life. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>Like cause if you if you're a person who puts

1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:30.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself out there and says yes to things and tries

1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know whatever, like like this. You know, like

1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 1>like this guy Brazen, you know he someone's like, hey

1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:41.760
<v Speaker 1>should try poorn. He's like yeah, okay. Or someone's like,

1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:44.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey go to Jamie Fox's house. He's like yeah, okay.

1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:46.120
<v Speaker 1>You know he's saying yes, he's putting himself out there

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:47.880
<v Speaker 1>he's trying. If you're someone who does that, you know

1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that life is really like weird and crazy or like

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the woman who slept with the guy on the train,

1:01:55.600 --> 1:02:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like like shit, fucking shit happened, So you know what

1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So I really I believe ninety nine point

1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:09.160
<v Speaker 1>ninety ninety nine. Sometimes a guy calls in and is like, yeah,

1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I fucked my cousin. Actually, one time a guy did

1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:13.520
<v Speaker 1>call in to talk about fucking his cousin. I did

1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:20.040
<v Speaker 1>believe him. But like things happen, I believe every word

1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:23.960
<v Speaker 1>of what this guy was talking about. And uh the

1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 1>other like like I don't know, man, shit is just

1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:30.800
<v Speaker 1>uh like I think like like people I don't like

1:02:31.280 --> 1:02:34.760
<v Speaker 1>if you go out, like life is crazier than you

1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:38.120
<v Speaker 1>think it is. So I have no real reason to

1:02:38.160 --> 1:02:44.080
<v Speaker 1>not uh believe the you know, not only the like

1:02:44.280 --> 1:02:46.960
<v Speaker 1>empirical events that people talk about on this show, but

1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like their feelings about them, like, uh, you know, it's

1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it feels it, it's very it feels real. That's just

1:02:56.400 --> 1:02:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that's my perspective on it. But anyway, I appreciate raising

1:02:59.680 --> 1:03:06.560
<v Speaker 1>for calling in and sharing his story. Hey, what's up, folks,

1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's Lyle here. I just wanted to give you a

1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:13.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit more episode and thought I would read just

1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:17.919
<v Speaker 1>a few gek mails, maybe a couple, maybe just one.

1:03:18.000 --> 1:03:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whatever I'm feeling today, just to you know,

1:03:21.960 --> 1:03:24.960
<v Speaker 1>give you guys a little bit of bonus Gecko time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have some emails in front of me. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>read one or two of them before we go. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you guys enjoyed that call that we just had

1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:40.240
<v Speaker 1>with our young DJ hustler friend. I really liked that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, yeah, let's read a few emails. Let's see. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. This is This is from Bray. Subject

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<v Speaker 1>line femboy identity and dealing with self perception problems. Hello,

1:03:59.280 --> 1:04:03.560
<v Speaker 1>mister Gecko, I am Bray. I want to quickly get

1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the fanboy stuff out of the way. I've listened to

1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:08.440
<v Speaker 1>your podcast since I was sixteen, and it's been a

1:04:08.520 --> 1:04:11.240
<v Speaker 1>huge part of my day to day. Very much helped

1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:14.440
<v Speaker 1>me cope with many quiet periods of my teenage life.

1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I love your show and your takes on everyone's issues,

1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and I want to say you're awesome. I was a

1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:22.840
<v Speaker 1>top ten listener on Spotify this year. Btw. Thank you, Bray. Also,

1:04:22.920 --> 1:04:25.320
<v Speaker 1>thank you to everyone else who I got a lot

1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:31.200
<v Speaker 1>of really nice messages about Spotify rapped and because I

1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:33.400
<v Speaker 1>know they do a podcast one, so thank you to

1:04:33.400 --> 1:04:38.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone who has listened to even one single minute of

1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:44.320
<v Speaker 1>me doing this. I saw some guy in fuck Spain

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<v Speaker 1>or some guy in some non English speaking country logged

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<v Speaker 1>like a full month of the podcast this year, so

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that guy. So yeah, thank you guys very

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<v Speaker 1>much for sending me that stuff. Anyway, anyway, back debray,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been lost in terms of identity and self perception.

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<v Speaker 1>I know everyone goes through life changing and developing their

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<v Speaker 1>version of self and creating a vessel, but I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been sure of who I am and especially how I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to appear to the people around me. Since last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been experimenting with my feminine side, dressing up as

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<v Speaker 1>a stereotypical femboy in private. I normally like appearing androgynous

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<v Speaker 1>and going against typical manly behaviors, having long hair, doing

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of eyeliner and makeup, and also skincare. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel comfortable and confident, but I struggle with

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<v Speaker 1>how I perceive myself versus how others see me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a I'm a relatively average looking guy, but I take

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<v Speaker 1>really good feminine photos. I think these photos fool me

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<v Speaker 1>into thinking I'm more feminine than I really am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>literally oblivious to how I look, which is ruining my

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<v Speaker 1>mental health and identity that I've made since I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. Huh, why is being oblivious to how you

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<v Speaker 1>look ruining your identity? All right? Hold on, I have thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna finish the email. I have dabbled in

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<v Speaker 1>posting pictures of me and feminine clothing on Reddit, but

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<v Speaker 1>the compliments I receive online haven't ever really felt good

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<v Speaker 1>or meaningful. I don't get confidence from online interactions, nor

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<v Speaker 1>do I feel engaged with them either. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I live by the confidence I receive from the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>and the days where I'm not confident in how I

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<v Speaker 1>see myself are some of the most depressing moments in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. All in all, I'm a boring, emo looking

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<v Speaker 1>boy living in Australia who's deluded himself into thinking he's cute,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just wondering how you deal with your own

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<v Speaker 1>self perception and identity, how you cope with negative thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>or how you deal with anxiety from being self conscious.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Bray, A lot of stuff in here, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff in here. There was one line where you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, I'm oblivious to how I look and that's

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<v Speaker 1>ruining my mental health. I'm wondering why, and also like

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<v Speaker 1>your oblivious to Like, Okay, you're saying that, you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>you're I assume you're saying you're oblivious to how other

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<v Speaker 1>people are perceiving you. So I'll tell you a few things,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how the knowledge of how you are being

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<v Speaker 1>perceived by others is only helpful when it's helpful, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I've talked about this before, But

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a I believe in like a strong spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there's an optimal place to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum of like conscientiousness, right, because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>completely disregard the way in which you come off to

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<v Speaker 1>other people, because there's valuable in in there, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>you also don't want to be too obsessed with it

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<v Speaker 1>because at a certain point it's moot how you come

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<v Speaker 1>off to other people because there's infinite people and you

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<v Speaker 1>only have your one life, So who really gives a fluck?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on what you're trying to do and how

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to live your life and all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, look, man, here's the thing about like

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<v Speaker 1>your identity. And also, you were sixteen when you started

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the podcast, so I'm gonna assume you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>like eighteen nineteen something like that. Your identity can be

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want it to be, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to dress up like a girl and

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<v Speaker 1>take photos of yourself as a girl and that's and

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<v Speaker 1>you feel to yourself that you are cute and that

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<v Speaker 1>makes you feel good, then fucking do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm I feel like I haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 1>into the full crux of this issue. Okay, the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>I received from the mirror is where. Oh I live

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<v Speaker 1>by the confidence I receive in the mirror. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. That's a good thing, Bray, that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you build up your identity on and I know

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<v Speaker 1>this because I do it, if you build up your

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<v Speaker 1>identity from like internet likes and like com and like

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<v Speaker 1>external validation, you're building a fucking castle of sand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone knows that. So good. I think that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a healthy thing to not really feel

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<v Speaker 1>that much from compliments on the internet. It'd be way

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<v Speaker 1>worse if you were to if you were telling me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only feel good about myself other people on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet are telling me that I'm attractive and amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, that's a bad thing. But so so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's more about like a self perception. Hm hm, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an idiot. Okay, no, okay. This person is posting

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of himself being a girl on the internet and

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying that he looks cute, but then he

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<v Speaker 1>is looking in the mirror and he does and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't see what the other people are seeing. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I think. I think that's it. Uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a boring, emo looking guy in Australia who's deluded himself

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<v Speaker 1>into thinking he's cute. I mean, think whatever you fucking

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<v Speaker 1>want about yourself. I believe that, like I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>in manifestation in some regard of like whatever narrative you

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<v Speaker 1>want to play into, like uh, hours your actions, I suppose, so,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you walk around thinking that you're cute, then

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<v Speaker 1>it does kind of rub off, you know, to an extent.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, like you don't want to be like completely delusional, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, believe whatever, Believe whatever you want about yourself. Bray,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of fake it till you make it,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we will all one day make it. Uh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's read like one more. This is from Bailey. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and still having nocturnal emissions. Uh okay. I'm thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and on occasion, I still have wet dreams, or nocturnal

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<v Speaker 1>emissions as they are called. I'm not exactly sure when

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<v Speaker 1>this first started, but I would say that this has

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<v Speaker 1>been a thing for about half my life, and took

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<v Speaker 1>quantify the frequency. I would guess this happens at least

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<v Speaker 1>once a month, maybe on average a little more. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it has happened twice in a night. Thankfully, it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>happened in over a week or two. I have never

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<v Speaker 1>talked to a doctor or a therapist about this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to. It seems my problem is

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<v Speaker 1>dream induced, so something freaky might be going down in

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<v Speaker 1>my dream leading me to finish finishing as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>it happens, I wake up, and then the feeling I

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<v Speaker 1>have when I wake is that I have to pee,

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<v Speaker 1>so in an attempt to prevent this, I try to

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<v Speaker 1>cut off drinking any fluids at least an hour or

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<v Speaker 1>more before I go to bed. I also read that

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping on your back helps, so I try to do

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<v Speaker 1>that when falling asleep. To embarrass myself further with this issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a longtime girlfriend. However, thankfully she has no

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<v Speaker 1>idea about this. But this has happened when I've stayed

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<v Speaker 1>over at her place. Because it seems like it is unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>I pack extra underwear when whenever I am not staying

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<v Speaker 1>at my place, and when it happens, I wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>go clean myself up, and change. When this has happened

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<v Speaker 1>and I am at her place, as I'm getting back

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<v Speaker 1>in bed, she will ask if I'm okay since I

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<v Speaker 1>keep getting up in the middle of the night. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe I have her thinking I have bladder issues or

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<v Speaker 1>an upset stomach, which is good. I don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>anything specific I'm looking from you for from you other

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<v Speaker 1>than your thoughts on this matter. I don't really want

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<v Speaker 1>to consult a doctor on this, as I'm embarrassed by it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to think I am a sex addict,

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<v Speaker 1>What do the hell does this have to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a sex addict? While I did see that masturbation and

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<v Speaker 1>sex can reduce this from happening, I'd like to refrain

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<v Speaker 1>from watching porn. If you read this on your podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I'll be listening for your reaction in any

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<v Speaker 1>words you have on this matter. Okay, Bailey, Uh, First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, First of all, I can tell that you're

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<v Speaker 1>carrying way too much. You're carrying way, way way too

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<v Speaker 1>much shame about this, my friend. You're like, it's all right, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right to come. It's our biological imperative. It's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to come. Your girlfriend doesn't care that you come

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<v Speaker 1>in your sleep. A doctor doesn't care that you come

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<v Speaker 1>in your sleep. You're not a sex addict because you

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<v Speaker 1>come in your sleep. You're You're okay, brother. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to I want to go into this guy's brain and

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<v Speaker 1>make him realize that he's fine, because he's clearly freaking

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<v Speaker 1>out about a thing that's really not that big of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. So, I mean, that's the main thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, is like, you're definitely taking this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>making it into much bigger of a deal than than

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Like, what if your girlfriend. Your girlfriend doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care that you come in your sleep? Dude, are you

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<v Speaker 1>peeing your sleep? You're coming in your sleep? I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming in I think I think you're coming in

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<v Speaker 1>your sleep. Yeah, wet dreams, Yeah, I think you're coming

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<v Speaker 1>in your sleep. How much are you because I because

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone comes in their sleep a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I'm curious. How much are you coming in

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<v Speaker 1>your sleep? Are you like full? Are you coming full

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<v Speaker 1>loads in your sleep? I cut off drinking fluids at

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<v Speaker 1>least an hour before I go to bed. See are

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<v Speaker 1>you don't? Are you peeing in your sleep? Or you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming in your sleep? I try to cut off fluids

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<v Speaker 1>at least an hour or more before I go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>That reads that you're peeing, but the sex part of

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it leads to your I'm gonna assume you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming in your sleep, and I'm gonna assume you're coming

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<v Speaker 1>strong liquiity comes in your sleep? Does that happen? Go

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<v Speaker 1>to a doctor, man, there's notion. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be ashamed of this. I'd like to refrain from watching

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<v Speaker 1>Do You Wait? Hold On? I don't want myself to

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm a sex act or anything. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>see that masturbation and sex can reduce this from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to refrain from watching porn. There's so much

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Do you have Do you not have sex

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<v Speaker 1>or masturbate ever? If you don't have sex or masturbate ever,

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<v Speaker 1>then then yeah, then then yeah, something's gonna They're fucking

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<v Speaker 1>damn building up and something's gotta go at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to watch pooring to masturbate. You can

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<v Speaker 1>just do it. Do you and your girlfriend not have sex?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you have shame about having sex and

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<v Speaker 1>masturbatings too. Billy I, Billy Bailey, Billy Billy, release the

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<v Speaker 1>shame and fucking have sex and masturbate and come in

1:16:40.920 --> 1:16:43.920
<v Speaker 1>your sleep like it's fine. There's no you're putting value

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<v Speaker 1>judgments on this thing for just no reason. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>had a religious upbringing, maybe you just are scared. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but that's my main thought is you should

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<v Speaker 1>uh relinquish the shame. And it's just you know, because look,

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<v Speaker 1>you either jack Your body is telling you you either

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<v Speaker 1>need to jack off while you're awake, or jack off,

1:17:06.240 --> 1:17:09.439
<v Speaker 1>or or it'll jack off for you while you're dreaming about, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Lola Bunny or Selma Hyak or whatever your thing is.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you watch TV? You're seeing this kind of seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the kind of person that thinks that watching TV

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<v Speaker 1>is sinful and maybe wouldn't know who Lola Bunny is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, It's okay for you to watch Lola Bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>Hentai Billy, You're all right. If I could be the

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm the if I could be the first person

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<v Speaker 1>in your life to tell you it's okay to come,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an honored to do that. So don't don't be

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed by it. Man, Just fucking go to the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>if you need to tell your girlfriend. Nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 1>The only the only thing that's I jend you know

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<v Speaker 1>what's funny is is contradictatorially. Contradictorily. It's more weird to

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<v Speaker 1>me that you find this weird then that this is occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>So let yourself live, Bailey. That's all I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, I think that's that's the end of my

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<v Speaker 1>gackmail reading. But there's more emails here, but I'll fuck

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<v Speaker 1>my voice cracked. Okay, I'm alive. I'm okay. See that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of embarrassing, but I don't care. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>own it. I'm alive. There's more emails here, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>read them on another episode. I hope you guys enjoyed this.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you are enjoying the podcast. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you liked the conversation that I had with the caller

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<v Speaker 1>I did. Maybe some of you will get into four

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<v Speaker 1>X trading. I didn't. I didn't tell you about that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to Therapy Echo tour dot com. I'm planning my

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<v Speaker 1>live shows. I'm excited about them. Give me your email

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<v Speaker 1>or phone number or whatever, or don't I mean you?

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<v Speaker 1>Should you? Or do you should? Should? I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to come. I want you to come to my show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want Bailey to come on a towel or

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he wants to come. This was the Therapeuticle podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you again for listening, Thanks for sharing your Spotify

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<v Speaker 1>raps with me. And here's to many more years of

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<v Speaker 1>talking into this microphone and talking to people and being

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<v Speaker 1>a gecko and living life gek bless.

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<v Speaker 2>Everythink goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night,

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<v Speaker 2>everything goes, and I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>Teaching you aloud, in the mean of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not ready an expert