1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up? Man? What's your name? 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Oh? No, fucking way, dude, my name is b B. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: What's going on? B has life? Man? 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Life? Bro? Oh I'm sorry, I'm geeking. I didn't dude. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: I've been listening to you for years. I never thought 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I would have seen your name pop over on my phone. Bro, 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: what the fuck? This is crazy? This is crazy? 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, be we're here, Uh, it's December, whatever the year. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Who cares? And we're both alive at this very moment, 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: and we're connected now via a system of over Yeah, 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: via a thing that is so deeply beyond our comprehension 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: as to how it works that it would take us 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: a lifetime. Maybe not a lifetime, but it would take 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: us more time than either of us care to invest 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: to really understand the technology behind how you and I 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: are connected now. But it doesn't matter who care. We 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: don't have to think about that stuff. All we have 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: to do is be in this moment with each other. 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: So let's do that. Ye, what's going on with you? B? 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: What tell me about your life? 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot going on right now, dude, honestly, 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean yeah, there's a lot going on. 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: I mean I DJ. I'm just I'm hustling on the side. 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: I got three months paid off of my work as well, 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: so that has been great. Just been going great. 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: You got three months paid off of your work. 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, dude. 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Are you a teacher? 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: No? No, So I work at the bank and I've 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: found out about this program that my company offers when 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: my coworkers told me about it, Like everyone in the 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: company is taking it almost but you can file like 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: it's called a leave of absence. I've been going to 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: therapy actually thanks to your show for a while, and 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: they told me that since I do go to therapy, 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: I can just have my therapist sign up on some 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: papers that's saying that I'm like I'm too anxious and 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: I can't work and everything. So yeah, file had Really 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: I've been getting paid. Yeah, Yeah, I've been off. I've 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: been off for the last like two months. I'm supposed 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: to go back end of this month, but I'm trying 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: to see if i can get it extended to longer. 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: So you can get a note from a therapist that 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: tells you that you're too anxious to work, and then 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: your job has to pay you for three months. 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Correct at least three months. Yeah, they pay you one 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: hundred percent of your rate for three months and then 48 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: after that you can get it extended, but it's only 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: going to be at like eighty percent or something like that. 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: What is that? This like a whose program is this? 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: This can't be the bank's program. It's just like a 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: government program. 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: No, No, it's through the bank. But the bank company's 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: partners with this third party company that does it, and 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: they're the ones who are prove it or don't approve it. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: But that therapist pretty much just gave me the paperism 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: was like, here, just just tell me what you want 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: to say. I'll sign up on it. 59 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: So wait, what's the incentive of the company to do that? 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: Literally nothing, I guess, just to provide like a like 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: a I don't know, honestly, just to provide time off 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: for their employees who genuinely do like feel too anxious 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: and sue because it is stressful working in the bank. 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: You think we just like kind of punch numbers and 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: get people cash and take cash from people and stuff 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 2: like that. But it's so much deeper than that. There's 67 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: so many different rules and regulations and they go do 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: audits and shit like that. It actually is right. 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm sure it is. I guess my one 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: My thing is, I'm just like, uh, it's a nice 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: thing to do, but I don't know if banks are 72 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: in the business of kindness, you know what I'm saying. 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is the There's gotta be something behind 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: it of like why they're doing I'm just curious, you know, 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: what's the third it's the third party that they're getting with. 76 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to say the name of the company 77 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: and blow my spot up because I'm not even supposed 78 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: to be. I'm not even supposed to be. I'm supposed 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: to be in my little height hole in my room, 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: away from the world, trying to trying to trying to 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: get better and not be so. 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: All right, well whatever, we don't have to talk about capitalism. 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: We can talk about you. 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't know. It's been going great during 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: this time off. I've just been hustling, man. I'm learning 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: how to day trade. I'm three D printing ship and 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm reselling it. Actually had a trade show here in 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: about like two hours. I got ahead over there to 89 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: go resell some three D printed ship and I DJ 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: too as well. I've just been I've just been kind 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: of moving and grooving, man, using this time to my advantage. 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: You're learning how to day trade. 93 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yep, like crypto, I'm doing like foreign exchange. 94 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: So like okay, so you ever you ever look at 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: like the race of like US dollars to like euros, 96 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: like that exchange rate. 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, I know, I know, I know four X. 98 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: So you're like you're like watching the chart of like 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: how many how many like Zimbabwe dollars are are going 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: up and down and then trade them for Okay, now. 101 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can make money on that, on that 102 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: value that changes all the time. You can make money 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: on there. 104 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: Have you how much money have you lost doing this? 105 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean trading overall or just in four X, because 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: because in trading, I mean I've done I've gone anywhere 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: from like doing stock to crypto to commodities like silver 108 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: and gold and ship I've traded for a while, but 109 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: with four X, I just started not too long ago. 110 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: But I haven't. I haven't lost any real money in 111 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: four X yet. I'm like trading. I'm trading with a 112 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: simulated account. I'm going to challenge. They gave me an account 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: with like one hundred grand and they had to make 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: ten grand on it in like sixty days, and then 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: I get to keep eighty percent of the profit that 116 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: I make on the account. 117 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: Okay, slow down, who First of who's they? And then 118 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: is this real money? 119 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: Uh, it's not real money in the account yet? And 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: they it's called it's called it's called an FLMC. So 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: they they like, you pay five hundred bucks and they 122 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: give you an account with us with like one hundred 123 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: grand in it of simulated money. And if you pass 124 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: this challenge of making ten grand in the account, then 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: after that they give you like a real account with 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: real money, and then any money that you make in 127 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: that account, then you get to keep eighty percent of it. 128 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: You pay this company five hundred dollars and then they 129 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: give you a They give you one hundred thousand dollars 130 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: of fake money. And if you can turn that one 131 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars of fake money into one hundred and 132 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars of fake money, then they will give 133 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: you one hundred thousand dollars of real money that you 134 00:06:54,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: can keep turn into real money, can try to real money, 135 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: and then give them a percentage of the real money. 136 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: Correct. Yes, sir, that is right. 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. 138 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's dope as hell. It's called the f 139 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: MC challenge. 140 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Now, so basically, they give you this money to be 141 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: they give you this fake money to be like, all right, 142 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: are you are you good at trading? And then there 143 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: you are. Then they're like, okay, here's some money to 144 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: trade with. But then but then okay, but here's the thing, right, 145 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: isn't a lot okay four x right, and a lot 146 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: of this trading stuff isn't a lot of it? Like luck? 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, So couldn't you theoretically with your fake money 148 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: get lucky and then when they give you the real 149 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: money just lose it all? 150 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean at the end of the day, 151 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: I always tell people who are interested in it, it's 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: always a fifty to fifty chance either it going your 153 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: way or not, because what you're really doing is just 154 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 2: betting on on on on your currency or whatever you're trading, 155 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: going up or down. At the end of the day, 156 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: that's what it is. So you always have a fifty 157 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: to fifty chance, But it always depends on like how 158 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: many confirmations or how many things you can stack in 159 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: your favor to give yourself a better chance, whether it 160 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: be like an eighty twenty chance. You know what I'm saying, 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's kind of that simple. Honestly, it's simple. 162 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: It seems complex just because people see red and green 163 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: candlesticks and there's charts and shit all over the screen, 164 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: but it's actually very simple. No. 165 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: But what I'm asking you. But what I'm asking you is, 166 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: is it what's the difference between this and like, what 167 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: is the difference between this and if I was like, 168 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: all right, here's one thousand fake dollars to go to 169 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: the casino with, and if you can make that into 170 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten thousand dollars, I'll give you real 171 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: money to go to the casino with. 172 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I guess in that logic, it's 173 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: kind of the same thing, pretty much the same. 174 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so it is. So it is still kind of gambling. 175 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd say, I'd say just more aculated gambling, 176 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: just because again I'm looking at different type of what 177 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: we call indicators to kind of stack the odds in 178 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: my favor versus like the house pretty much always wins. 179 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: You know, with gambling, the house is pretty much going 180 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: to win with a majority of the time. But I 181 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: mean there's people who make who are like eighty percent 182 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: accurate and they're making the killing. But I don't think 183 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: you're going to be eighty percent accurate at the casino 184 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: unless you're counting card or some shit. 185 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're trading, and are you I guess, I 186 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: guess are you lifetime up in trading? 187 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: I'd say I'm pretty break even. I'm not like a professional. 188 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: I don't do it for a living. I mean, but 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm just doing on the side, just trying to 190 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: make some money, trying to beat this economy. Man, I'm 191 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: trying to stack up as many things as I can 192 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: to help me out. And thankfully I met a guy 193 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: who who has made it, has who does do that 194 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: for a living, and he believes in me enough to 195 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: be able to like fund me and know what I'm saying, 196 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: he bought that account for me and everything, so he's 197 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: been kind of mentoring me. 198 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: This ironically sounds more anxiety inducing than working at a bank. 199 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a different type of anxiety. I 200 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: guess you could say. I mean, yeah, because happen to 201 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: deal with people and then dealing with their problems, and 202 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: you know people people hold their money to a certain 203 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: standard and when shit is like not right in their account, 204 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: they freak out and they flip out in front of 205 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: everybody in the bank. That that can be Yeah, that 206 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 2: can be a lot too, because I've had like six 207 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 2: year old women come in and be like, I had 208 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars in this bank. What the fuck 209 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: you guys are charging me at three dollars fee. I'm like, 210 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: bro fucking I can't help that. I don't make commission 211 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: off of this. I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't. 212 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't get enjoyed in telling you that you gotta 213 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: pay us five dollars a month to keep his killing. 214 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: You're like that guy from South Park who's like, Okay, 215 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: we'll take you one hundred thousand dollars and put it 216 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: into a money market mutual fund and it's. 217 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 2: Gone and it's gone. Yeah kind of yeah, that's what 218 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: banking is pretty much. 219 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Uh, okay, So you're trading, Okay, So you this is 220 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by your situation. So that so that 221 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: your bank. So you got a note from a therapist 222 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: that tells your bank that they have to give you 223 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: three months paid leave off and you're using it to 224 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: trade commodities. That's the first thing, and then what are 225 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: the other things. 226 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm just running a whole bunch of side quests, honestly, man. 227 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. I've been three D printing 228 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: like a whole bunch of cheesy holiday stuff, so like 229 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: Santa hats and earrings and stuff like that. So I'm 230 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: just three D printing items to resell at a trade show. 231 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: And then I'm djaying too as well. On the side. Well, 232 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: I've been I've been djaying for like ten plus years. 233 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: I've done a whole bunch of different events for celebrities 234 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: like Jamie Fox and shit like that. But I just 235 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: I've been I moved states from California to Texas. I 236 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: just have been kind of trying to grumb my name 237 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: out here and it's been working. So yeah, just just 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: there's three D printing stuff and then DJing. 239 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: What so you said you used to dj for celebrities. 240 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: How did you get involved in doing that? 241 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Just living in LA honestly, man, just just word to mouth. 242 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: So I mean, I hate to too my own home, 243 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: but I'm pretty good at what I do DJing, so 244 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: a lot of people just they'll come up to me 245 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 2: and be like, oh, hey, I got this gig, do 246 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: you want to spin for this and this and that. 247 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, of course, I'll do it. And then 248 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: usually from there again, it's like a domino effect, like 249 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: I'll do one gig and then I'll get another gig 250 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: from that gig, or like someone that followed me on 251 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: Instagram from the gig or something. It's kind of just 252 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: kind of just snowballs from there. M m. 253 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So what have been your recent DJ gigs? 254 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: Last night, I've been, I've been. I've been a regular 255 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: at this place out in Fort Worth. I'd spend there 256 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: every Friday night. And then from there I met the 257 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: owner of like one of their one of their other 258 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: companies that the guy owns, so he wants me to 259 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 2: start spending there on Saturday. But tonight I got to 260 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: go DJ there after I finished selling this three D 261 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: printing stuff at the show. 262 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: What are you three D printing? 263 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: Uh? Just a whole bunch of holiday stuff. So I 264 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: got like like reindeer headbands, I got like snowflake eaterings, 265 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 2: I got like Christmas tree ear rings. I got I 266 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: printed out like a little like uh six seven uh. 267 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: It's literally just like a pair of numbers assist sixty seven. 268 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: And it has like the hand and like you can 269 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: kind of flexible with the legs, so it's like a 270 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: little like like a little action figure. I guess you 271 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: could say I'm printing out like little mini Christmas trees 272 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, just cheesy little stuff that people 273 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: will want to buy for their kids or for as gifts. 274 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: I printed out like wallets too as well, like little 275 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 2: cardholder wallets. 276 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: M yeah, so what are you What are you anxious about? 277 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: It was honestly just my job, man. It's just I 278 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: don't know. While I'm there, I feel like, I mean, 279 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: for a lack of better words, it's felt like a 280 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: fucking loser, dude. I don't know. It's just like the 281 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: people that I work with, they've been with the company 282 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: for thirty years, thirty forty years in the same position, 283 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, I know I'm meant to do 284 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: so much more than this, Like I don't want to 285 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: be stuck, you know what I'm saying, Waiting for waiting 286 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: for for wire come for me, and I just see 287 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: it for Jamie Fox last year, Like you know what 288 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying, I felt like such a loser there. So 289 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: it's just while I'm there, and then again, the customers 290 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: that you got to do with are kind of unbearable. 291 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: Like people come in pissed off and the systems are down, 292 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: or like a lot of a lot of a lot 293 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: of old people still come in the bank, so a 294 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: lot of them are just s nile and wondering where 295 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: this came from, or wondering whether the money goes or 296 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: like like one of my last days, I remember while 297 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: I was there, I had I had to stop this 298 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: guy from sending out one hundred thousand dollars to PayPal. 299 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: I was like, why the hell are you sending PayPal 300 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars? And he was like, oh uh, 301 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: they overcharged me for something from Macavie, so I'm sending 302 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: the money back. I'm like, bro, what So he told 303 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: me the whole story and he ended up almost getting 304 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: scammed h because some guys did. They took over his 305 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: computer and a whole bunch of stuff. So I ended 306 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: up stopping that that was fraud going on. And it's 307 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: just it's just a lot, man, a lot at listen. 308 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I just want to just so you know, 309 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm so with you. If so, I'm so with you 310 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: because if because for it, Like, if you can get 311 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: a bank to pay you for three months of not working, 312 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: you should totally do that. You should you should totally 313 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: do that, and then you should totally spend those three 314 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: months trying to figure out how to make enough money 315 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: that you don't have to go back to work at 316 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the bank. I'm very I think you have I'm I'm 317 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: totally with you. I don't. I think I don't. I 318 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: think this everything you're doing, weirdly makes a lot of 319 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: sense to me because I think, what's everyone because everyone 320 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: knows everyone knows that that and you got to be 321 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: careful with it, I think. But like everyone knows that 322 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: people are out there making all sorts of crazy money 323 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: doing whatever the fuck four x crypto, whatever the fucking bullshit, 324 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: whatever thing is. I mean, you've got to be careful 325 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: that you're not what is it? You're not like gambling 326 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: away all of your savings and money. But yeah, but 327 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: you're smart because you're like, I'm gonna get some fucking 328 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this simulated money, whatever the fuck thing 329 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: as long as you're not risking a lot like it, 330 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: like you seem like you've mitigated your risk and increased 331 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: your upside. So I respect that. I respect that because 332 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: you got to make you know, that's the thing, right is, 333 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: if you want to not be like that guy who's 334 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: been working at the bank for thirty years, you gotta 335 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: make some swings. I respect it. And if you can, 336 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: if you can get the if you can tell the 337 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: bank that you're anxious and make and make the downside 338 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: of taking your swings lower, you should totally do that 339 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: ship exactly. I respect. 340 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometime I'm trying to reduce my nut and increase 341 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: my income. 342 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, well it's hard out there, right because you 343 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: need money to do everything that there is. And then mhm, 344 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, you're putting you like you're 345 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: taking swings. I like it. 346 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, I'm trying. You got to. I'm I'm 347 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm young right now, I'm I'm in a very unique 348 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: position to where I can't take risks like this. I'm 349 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: trying to take all the risks that I can, you 350 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying to be able to uh again, 351 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: like you said, just not have to go back to 352 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: work if I don't want to. 353 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: You told me, you said that you're homeless. You said 354 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: that in a text. 355 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So so technically I was supposed to move out 356 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: of my place like last week or two weeks now, 357 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: like last week. 358 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: And. 359 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: Uh, my credit is shot thanks to my mom, so 360 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: I can't really get approved for anywhere else. So they 361 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: they technically I think they were supposed to kick me 362 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: out last week. But I've been talking to them to 363 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: see if I can just resign in my place now 364 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: because they wouldn't have to do a credit check and 365 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: I can just I can just move unit. But they 366 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: haven't got back to me, so I'm kind of just like, 367 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm kind of just waiting nothing to kick me out 368 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: or like if they're going to talk to the office 369 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: people about like let me stay longer or something. So 370 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know. I don't really know 371 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: what's going on with it. I'm kind of just waiting. 372 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: How did your mom fuck up your credit? 373 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: Shud. That's a whole another story too. Man. She's she's 374 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: done a lot. So when back in like what like 375 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: during during like COVID time a few years ago, she 376 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: was like pretty suicidal and shit like that. And then 377 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: on top of that, she had just had her car 378 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: like repode, and she my mom is very like she's 379 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: not a typical mom, Like she doesn't sew and knit 380 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: and make hot chocolate and bake and shit like that. 381 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: Like she she's kind of like a young mom. She 382 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: had me young, so she's more or less worried about 383 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: like her her her image on social media and to 384 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: her friends and shit. So she she needed a car 385 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: right away and wanted to get another car, but she 386 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: couldn't obviously because she her credit was shot. She had 387 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: just got a repost. So she had me put a 388 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: car for her under my which I was already kind 389 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: of skeptical about, but she I was like, I mean, 390 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: it's my mom, you know what I'm saying. I got 391 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: to help her out with all the stuff that she's 392 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: going through. She's been through for me. So I signed 393 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: my name for a car for her, and it went 394 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: well for a while, but then I started getting calls 395 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: and saying that she was like laid on the payment 396 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: or that she had missed a payment and everything. So 397 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: the car ended up ended up getting repote, and that 398 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: shit ding my credit really hard, and then as well, 399 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: on top of that, during COVID time, I don't know 400 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: if you remember, but they were doing some type of 401 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: like rent assistance program, so it's like you couldn't pay 402 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: your rent air quotes, they would cover your rent during 403 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: COVID if you did all this paperwork and talk to 404 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: the leasing office. Did it's like shit, And apparently she was. 405 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: She was doing that, but she never finished up the process. 406 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: So once we moved out, I got a ding on 407 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: my credit for like forty thousand dollars and like due 408 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: rent because she didn't finish the paperwork and all that. 409 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: So it's like technically on paper I got, I got 410 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: a car reponent in my name for her, and then 411 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: I got like forty thousand dollars in like due rent 412 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: for this place that she kind of screwed me on 413 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: too as well. And on top of that, she took 414 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: out like three or four different iPhone lines in my 415 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: name and just kind of kept the phones and never 416 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: like returned them. So I got I got digged for 417 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: that too. 418 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: So you said she's obsessed with social media. 419 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's. Yeah, she's on TikTok live and shit 420 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: like that. 421 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: Like what's she doing? 422 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: She I mean, she just she's she's just she just 423 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: wants to be an influencer. I think she owns like 424 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: her own medical spot, so she's like kind of advertising 425 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: for that. But I think she kind of just got 426 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: lost in thoughts and now she's just trying to be 427 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: like an influencer. So she'll like go TikTok live and 428 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: go to pilates and shit like that. 429 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, is it working for her or is 430 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: it like a detriment to her existence in yours? 431 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know. I don't really ask 432 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: her if she's getting paid from it or anything like that. 433 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: I just I just know that she's doing her She's 434 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 2: talked to me about it before. I was like, okay, 435 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: it's cool. I just I don't know. The credit shit 436 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: has stopped me from doing a lot in my life. 437 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: Like I wanted to get a new motorcycle because I 438 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: ride bikes and I wanted to get another one, but 439 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: I can't, obviously, because no one will approve me. I 440 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: wanted to trade in my car and I can't. I 441 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: wanted to move into a new apartment. I can't. So 442 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 2: it's like, shit that she's done is really kind of 443 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: hindered me like a lot. 444 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: Actually, how's your guys' relationship in general? 445 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: It was good, it was good, but i'd say, after 446 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: this and like another incident that happened, is just I 447 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: don't know, it's not the same. It's not the same, 448 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: Like we're all right. Like she'll I'll call her randomly 449 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: and she never answers, but then she'll text me and 450 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: like say with stuff and shit like that. But I 451 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: mean it's cool. I mean, she she sends me from 452 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: like money for groceries and shit if I really really 453 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: need it, because I hate asking for help, Like that's 454 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: one thing about me that I need to work on, 455 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 2: but I fucking hate asking for help. But I was 456 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: just super down bade one day and I was like, look, 457 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't have any groceries in my house. You know 458 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I can't eat, so I need to 459 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: get some food. So she sent me some money for groceries. 460 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: So I mean, maybe she's trying to get better, trying 461 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: to be there for me, but it's just I don't 462 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: know's she's she screwed me in a really big way 463 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: that like it's hard to just do life, you know 464 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's kind of hard to forget her 465 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: for all that. 466 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: M h are you only child? 467 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: I have a stepsister that I don't I've never really 468 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: got along with. 469 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, so your mom's remarried. No, no, well was 470 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: your dad's remarried? 471 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: No? No, my real dad was locked up. And then 472 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: she met this one dude who's been in my life. 473 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: He's a ship, but yeah, he was in my life 474 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: since I was born, and he had a kid with 475 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: my mom, and then they got divorced and then we 476 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: moved away and then. 477 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so yeah you go oya. She's a half sister. 478 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, mm hmm. 479 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: And she doesn't live where you live. 480 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: Nah. 481 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: My whole family's kind of pretty divided, so I mean 482 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: we don't really that's another thing. Like on holidays, I'll 483 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: just spend them by myself and ship. But now she 484 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: lives out in Louisiana. She goes to LSU. My mom 485 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: lives out in Houston. 486 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Your mom's in Houston, and where are you? 487 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm not in like the like the DFW area. 488 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, right, that's not that far, but yeah, 489 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's a whole city away. 490 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: Ye, Like it's like a five hour drive. 491 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, hm hmm. So do you So do you have 492 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: like any do your friend's family, like who's around, who's 493 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: around Dallas? 494 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's just kind of just me and 495 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 2: my pets against the world. Man. 496 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: I don't really. 497 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't really. I mean, I I have some some 498 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: people like I'm cool with, but I don't really Like 499 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: it's no, there's nobody in my life that I can 500 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: kind of just call and kind of just shoot the 501 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: ship with, you know what I'm saying. That's just I'll 502 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: see people like like my DJ gigs, then I'll be like, oh, hey, 503 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: what's up. Like we'll be cool. But it's nobody that 504 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: I can just go, I don't know, just go to 505 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: the movies or go paintballing with. You know what I'm saying. 506 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: There's nobody in my life like that I had. I 507 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: had a girlfriend, but that that ship went at that situation. 508 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: With what did you grow up in DFW? 509 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: No, I grew up in in In. I grew up 510 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: in LA like Los Angeles area. 511 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, wow, why'd you move to Texas? 512 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: Uh? Kind of just to get away? 513 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: Man. 514 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: Honestly, it's just I just I saw the. 515 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: I did. 516 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: Everything was just getting so expensive, and I knew a 517 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: guy that was making like six figures a year and 518 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: he was still living paycheck to paycheck. So I'm like, 519 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how the hell I'm 520 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: going to do this. So I kind of moved away 521 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: just to kind of, yeah. 522 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Do that. 523 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: And obviously Texas was the promised Land after COVID. Everybody 524 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: was like, I'm moving to Texas, so I kind of 525 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: I joined. I'm a transplant. 526 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: And what happened with your girlfriends? Man? 527 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: A lot a lot? Honestly, she just she just I mean, 528 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: the latest update is she's just crazy, like abusive. So 529 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: she she caught herself like putting her hands on me 530 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: and ship so I could call the cops. After the 531 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: third time, like the first time, I was like, okay, 532 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: maybe you know I'm saying I kind of put the 533 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: blame on myself, but I knew it wasn't okay for 534 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: her to be putting her hands on me because again, 535 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: I grew up in a household that was that was 536 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: full of domestic violence. That's the reason why I said 537 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: fuck my stepdad because he was like that, so I 538 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: know what that situation is like. So for so for 539 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: her to put her hands on me, it was kind 540 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: of like a lot. And then she did it a 541 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: second time, and then she did a third time. So 542 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 2: I might not screw that dude. I called the cops. 543 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: So mm hmm mmm. 544 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I can't How old are you? 545 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, so fow. 546 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Okay, did you? Did you? So you don't have any 547 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: like a whole you don't have any sense of community 548 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: out that because you're doing a lot of stuff right, 549 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: Like like you talk about like seeing people, seeing people 550 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: as a DJ gigs, Like how is that? 551 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: You know? 552 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: Are you like build like you're out right? 553 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: You know? 554 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I'm out, but I'm not really 555 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: like out, you know what I'm saying. So, so I 556 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: go to the spot every Friday night and I DJ, 557 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: but it's just me behind the I'm just by myself 558 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: playing music and stuff. And occasionally I'll get like a 559 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: drunkerl will come up and be like, oh, DJ, don't 560 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: take videos with me and shit. But I mean the 561 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: end of the night, I'm still sleeping by myself. I 562 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: don't really have like a sense of community when I 563 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean I did when I was riding motorcycles, I 564 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: will go to a motorcycle meet like a damn near 565 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: every day, So that community was pretty deep. But I mean, 566 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: now that it's cold, it's too cold to ride, everybody's 567 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: kind of just in hibernation or they're just hanging a 568 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: month like their own kind of people, and it's just 569 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: kind of me. I'm just here here just doing my 570 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: side quest. 571 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 3: Man. 572 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: This in general, I mean the next four months in 573 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: general kind of just suck because it's cold. 574 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's still stuff to do. I mean, 575 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: I'm a pretty weird guy. I'm into weird stuff. So 576 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: ill I've been seeing a whole bunch of different events 577 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: that I want to go to. Like there's a Simil 578 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: wrestling events out out in Texas I want to go watch. 579 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: It's a huge sumo fest that I want to go watch. 580 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: And there's also like ren Fest and stuff like that, 581 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: so I can. I'll find stuff to enter myself. It's 582 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: just I don't know, I lacked that sense of like community, 583 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: even like with family and with friends, I don't really 584 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: have like a community around me. And I mean it's 585 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: I mean it's I think it's lonely. But I mean 586 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm here. I'll tough it out. I got my pets 587 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: to kind of keep the company. 588 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: But what pets do you have? 589 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: I got two cats and two dogs. I got a 590 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: pug and a frenchy M. 591 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: Very cute. 592 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah nice, Yeah, I'm my little guys. M. Yeah. 593 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: Community is really important having people around you, is I 594 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: I have noticed I think over let's see, I'm about 595 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 1: to turn twenty eight, and I've been thinking about my 596 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: life and things I've learned. And one of the things 597 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: that I have learned, at least for me, and everyone's 598 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: kind of different, but I've learned over the course of 599 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: my life the importance of like having somewhere to go, 600 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: a third space as they call it, because the times 601 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: in my life where I've had something like that, I 602 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: can distinct divide in my life times where I had 603 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: something like that and times where I didn't, and the 604 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: times where I didn't have something like that, which they 605 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: just were cold, you know, like you got to have 606 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: somewhere to somewhere to be where there's other people around. 607 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I've talked about this a bunch 608 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: on here, but yeah, it's very important. And they're they're 609 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: out there, you know, they're out there. 610 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I just I just gotta keep keep looking. 611 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I found a whole bunch of cool stuff 612 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: to do, but like you said, it's just the community part. 613 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: I just got to figure out where to go to 614 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 2: find people that are as weird as me. So, I mean, 615 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I found this one place. It's called the 616 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: maker Space. It's out here with a time. I don't 617 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: know if you know, I don't know if you know 618 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: what a maker space is, but. 619 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there is. They're a chain, aren't they. 620 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if this place specifically 621 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: is a chain. But a maker space is I mean 622 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: a maker space Yeah, in general, Yeah, typically is like 623 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: a thing that's in different cities. But the one I 624 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: go to specifically, I think it's just that just that company, 625 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But but but there are 626 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: other maker spaces, yeah, correct. 627 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm kind of I'm sort of part 628 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: of a maker space. I guess there's a lot around 629 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: New York where it's like whatever you pay, you pay 630 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: uh some kind of monthly fee and they have like 631 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: equipment that you can use and ship like that exactly. 632 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the reason. 633 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: Why I'm running. Yeah, it's dope, dude, and they have 634 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: classes on everything. I'm actually teaching a class. I'm kind 635 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: of DJ on Sunday. Uh yeah, yeah. 636 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: That's great. 637 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: That'd be pretty cool. 638 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: That's great. 639 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be cool. 640 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: Great, that's awesome. 641 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 642 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: You just you just joined this you just joined to 643 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: this maker space. 644 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: Uh No, I've been a member there for a while, 645 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: but I just I kind of used it previously as 646 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: like as like a means to start a business. Self 647 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: was doing powder coding there now and doing like three 648 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: D printing, and I think next I'm going to start 649 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: this whole DJ class adventure because that's where the real 650 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: money is too, as well as like teaching people how 651 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: to do how to do djaying stuff. I feel like 652 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people be interested in that. So it's 653 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: using the space to make some money. Man. Honestly, have you. 654 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: Made any friends of the space or at least like acquaintances. 655 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've met some acquaintances, and for sure I'm on 656 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 2: like first name bases with some people. But it's not 657 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: like it's not again, it's not anything that's gonna be like, oh, 658 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: it's go grab a beer or something like that. It's 659 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: more or less like you see each other in a 660 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: space like, oh, hey, what are you working on today? Okay, cool, 661 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go through my thing there. 662 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Dude, I'm about to drop an unpopular opinion. 663 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: What's up? 664 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: Hit me? And I actually don't know if I believe 665 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: in this, but this is just I feel. I I 666 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: almost think it's better to have a lot of acquaintances. 667 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: Do you think so? 668 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I almost think so. I'm because 669 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: like if you have like two for like, I think, 670 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: like if you can go into a place right and 671 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: there's like twenty people and you're fairly friendly with them, 672 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: and you see them every day and you know, you 673 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: hang out with them, but like when you go home, 674 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: you're alone and maybe whatever, maybe there's like a social 675 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: event and you're there whatever, versus like a couple people 676 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: that you know you get. I don't. I guess ideally 677 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: you have both. Ideally you have like a couple people 678 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: who you're like really really close with and then a 679 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: lot of acquaintances. But I really I think you know 680 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: what it comes from is like I just like having 681 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: like a place where you go and you have like 682 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of people, like like back when I did 683 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: like open mics stand up and stuff that was a 684 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: big thing. It's like you just go you have a 685 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: bunch of acquaintances because you're just around this thing and 686 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: even like being part of like a maker space, Like again, 687 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of acquaintances. I'm almost like it 688 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: makes you an't it makes you feel like you exist? 689 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it is dope being surrunning around other people 690 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: who are creative and they're working on things too good. 691 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: It's a very I don't want to say it's like 692 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: a niche thing to be creative. Nowadays, it kind of 693 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: is a lot of people are just are just boxed 694 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 2: and just walking around just going to work, waking up, 695 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: going to work, going to sleep, waking up, going to work, 696 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: going to sleep. Like people is a loss in that loop. 697 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: So it's kind of cool to find people and be 698 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: around people at least acquainted with people who are also 699 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: being creative too as well. I mean it, it does. 700 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: It feels good when I'm there. 701 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're I mean, yeah, you're I like what 702 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: you're doing because again you're gaming the system, which you 703 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: have to do. You have to do that in some way, 704 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: shape or form to a vul the company offers it. 705 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: I mean it sucks. Your manager obviously doesn't like when 706 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: you're missing work for three months because they're short staffed already. 707 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: But hey, if the company offers it and improve it, 708 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 2: it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of out 709 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: of their hands. 710 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But you get one life, you know what, 711 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you should to you get what. It's weird, 712 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: right because you get one you get one life. And 713 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: on one hand, that's like, uh, there's something very uh 714 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: there's a great challenge to that. I'm like, oh, should 715 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: I get one life? I should make my own existence? 716 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: But you you have to all you have to do 717 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: that in spite of the fact that, uh, you need 718 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: you need a lot of money to just exist. So 719 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: you have you know, so if look, if you can 720 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: get the I need the money to exist thing as 721 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: under control, as under control as possible, without as under 722 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: control as possible, using as little of your finite time 723 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: and energy as possible, then do it. You know, whatever 724 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: on go on welfare, fucking steal through the people. Don't 725 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: do that, you know, don't do that. I mean ideal, Look, ideally, 726 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: ideally we live in a system where our basic needs 727 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: are uh met more easily. But I guess I'm always like, 728 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm always like, I'd like to it would be cool 729 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: to live in a system where people didn't have to 730 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: do that. But as long as we do figure out 731 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: some way to do it that requires the least amount 732 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: of your energy. 733 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. And with 734 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: the way that AI and robots and shit's going, we're 735 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: gonna be in wally r I robuts and so we 736 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 2: don't even have two words. I guess do you. 737 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: Do use AI for anything? 738 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I use AI to find a bunch of 739 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: different places out in like the DFW area where I 740 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: can DJYT and I'll have it right the I'll have it, 741 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: get the contact information for those places, give me their 742 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: emails in a list, and I'll copy and paste their 743 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: emails into like a like a mass blast email, and 744 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: then I'll use the AI to write me like a 745 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: short and suite introduction interest email to send out to 746 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: them to see if I can DJ there. So yeah, 747 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I use it a little bit. I use 748 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 2: it in my favor stuff like that. 749 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: That's cool. Do do this though, because I get all 750 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: kinds of like AI I get, so I get a 751 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: ton of fucking emails to my inbox that are like 752 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: where I can tell that they're AI uh or I 753 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: can tell that they like I'll get like, hell, I'll 754 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: get a lot of emails and say like hello therapy. 755 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: You know, like they just like scan you know what 756 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, They just like scanned like the first thing. 757 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: Whatever. 758 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: So like, if you're gonna use AI to masks make 759 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: your emails or whatever, change the at least the change 760 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: at least one part of it to make it be like, hey, 761 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: I am sending this email to you, you know, because 762 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: I fucking when I get I hate when I get 763 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: something that I can but whether it's whether it was 764 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: written with AI or even if it's just like someone 765 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: sharing a meme with me. I hate when I get 766 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: something where it's like I can tell you I'm just 767 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: one of like a hundred people you fucking sent this to. 768 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: You know that that chip is. 769 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll change up the verbiage and everybody down again. 770 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: So if I'm like sending out emails to strip clubs 771 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 2: that I can DJ, I'll change like the I'll change 772 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: the subject line and like a little bit of like 773 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 2: the examples of gigs that I've done, or if I'm 774 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 2: setting out uh, an email to like some skating rinks 775 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: that are near me that I want to DJ at. 776 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: I'll change up like the gigs and the example to 777 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: something of music that I play and stuff like that, 778 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: so I'll tailor it to the to the audience, the 779 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: people that I'm that I'm emailing out to. I'm just 780 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: using it as like a marketing tactic because I mean, 781 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: it's half the battle is trying to find people that 782 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: that do want to book you because I can. I 783 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: can keep a gig for sure. I mean, I have 784 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: no problem with that. Again, I'm pretty good at what 785 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: I do, so once I kid the gig, I'm good 786 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: at keeping it. But it's just getting the gigs is 787 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: like half the battle. 788 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: Do you like us all? Do you do? You post 789 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: your own mixes on online and stuff? 790 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll go live on TikTok every now and again. 791 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 2: It's just I'm not that big of like a social 792 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: media guy to like try to go in and edit 793 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: videos and set up tripods and ship like that. That's not 794 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 2: really like my thing. I mean, I know, within DJA 795 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: you kind of need to do that, but yeah, I 796 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. 797 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, you do it's unfortunately. Well that's the thing is, 798 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: you can can't really be like, I'm not a social 799 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: media guy anymore. You know what's hard is like there's 800 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna here's the thing is, there's it's not 801 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: going anywhere well because you have you have to make 802 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: concessions in some way, shape or form. Because it's like 803 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: you could if like if you're like an artist of 804 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: some kind and you want to be like a bit 805 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: of a purist, it's like it's like a like, if 806 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: you're an artist, you probably I mean not everyone, right, 807 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: not everyone. Some people are totally okay with just like 808 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: making the thing for the thing's sake, and that's fine, 809 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: and you know, there's even some virtue to that. I 810 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: think in my in my soul, I think there's some 811 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: virtue of that. I have. I have a lot of 812 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: respect for people do that. But most, I think the 813 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: majority of artists or the majority of people who like 814 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: are working really hard to make something. They would like 815 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: to a make money doing it so that they can 816 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: keep doing it and so that they can and you know, 817 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: do the things that you need to do a make 818 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: money doing it and be have people see it, right, 819 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: because like you work so fucking hard to make videos, 820 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: make music, make paintings, make whatever like you want, you 821 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: want you and you like you're making these things because 822 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: you are trying to express you. You're trying to make 823 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: your existence valid in some way, shape or form by creating, 824 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: and so you want people to see it, you know. 825 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: It's it's like very natural to want people to see 826 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: your work if you're working hard on it. And the 827 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: main way to accomplish those two kind of directives of 828 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: an artist are are through social media. 829 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's another layer two as well. While I'm 830 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: kind of awful work, I think once I get my 831 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 2: moving situation kind of planned out, that's what I planned 832 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: on doing too as well. It's just like you ever 833 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: like roll across some of those tiktoks where it's like 834 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 2: a DJ and like a random place of like a 835 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: kitchen or like their apartment or something that's kind of 836 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 2: just vibing with a few friends in DJ, and she's 837 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: like that, I'm thinking about doing something like that, just 838 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: setting up like my mixture of like my island and 839 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: my kitchen, yeah, and just playing for like a little 840 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 2: kick that kind of thing, and using that as like 841 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: content to spread out I'm thinking about doing that, and. 842 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: I also figure it and you also actually bring up 843 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: a good, uh counterpoint to everything I'm saying now I'm 844 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: thinking about it is like, uh, in a weird way 845 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: with something like what you do, I actually actually I'm 846 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna completely take back everything I just said. Maybe 847 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: not everything, but I'll be like, because what you do 848 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: right where you DJ and you can like throw parties 849 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: or like whatever, if you're an artist and you you know, 850 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: throw a little gallery or whatever. If you can get 851 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: ten human beings in real life to perceive your work, 852 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: or if you're making a movie or a video, you 853 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: can get twenty people to like sit in a room 854 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: and watch it. That actually that weirdly feels more real 855 00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: than getting like twenty thousand Internet views. And then if 856 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: doing what you're saying, if you can combine those two things, 857 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: it's cool. 858 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that'd be ideal, because I mean I've DJed 859 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: for a coliseum, like a stadium worth of people, and 860 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: then I always find out that like it feels more intimate, 861 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: it feels more good. But I'm tjing for like a 862 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: small intimate crowd of people. So I mean, yeah, I 863 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: agree with what you're. 864 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: Saying, yeah, so maybe you don't need social maybe just 865 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: maybe you just need five people willing to listen to 866 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: your thing. 867 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I get paid the spots that 868 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: I DJ. I get paid if five people show up 869 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: or five people or five hundred people show ups, I 870 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: mean matter to me. But obviously I mean I DJ. 871 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 2: I prefer to just spend for people who for people, 872 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 2: not for their cricket. 873 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: Now, tell me about these strip club gigs? What are 874 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: they like? 875 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 2: I mean they're cool. They're cool. I've did on multiple 876 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: different like types of gigs, but strip club gigs are cool. 877 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: I mean you get the dancers up to you, like 878 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 2: request a song or like to tip you to play 879 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: a certain song and stuff like that. I mean it's good, 880 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 2: it's cool. It's a cool vibe. Mm hmm, it's pretty cool. 881 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool, and you get a good show. Like 882 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 2: you're DJing. 883 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: What's that? What's your what's your craziest gig You've ever done? 884 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: The craziest as far as like who I've DJed for 885 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: or just like crazy and like the amount of people 886 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: or like the events that occurred in the in the 887 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: in the gig. 888 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 3: Let's go both, uh, I mean, I guess I've DJed 889 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 3: for uh for for Netflix before, for when they like 890 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 3: their movie screening kind of opening parties. 891 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: I DJ for Netflix. That DJ for Yeah, I did 892 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: it for Netflix. For for Jamie Fox at his house 893 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: a few different times, a DJ for fifty cent at 894 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: a at an opening of a show that he was 895 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: doing for Power. He had like a little pop up 896 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: kind of event and DJ four I got to see 897 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: him and say with something ship like that DJ for 898 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: celebrities and so with the so on that end. But 899 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: the craziest, I mean, I guess that's the DJ like 900 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 2: the warehouse out in LA. Actually know the crazy is 901 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: probably that I've done was at this TGI Fridays in 902 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: my hometown when I was growing up. They had shut down, 903 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: UH and these people that I knew, we were just 904 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 2: kind of desperate for money, so they were just kind 905 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: of breaking in and just doing gigs anywhere that they could. 906 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: So they we kind of we broke into this TGI 907 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: Fridays that was abandoned and they still had power, and 908 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: we broke in there and then we set up my 909 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 2: whole DJ said we had people like coming party in 910 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: the in the abandoned TGI Fridays when the swat team 911 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 2: showed up and should they kicked us out? We had 912 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 2: the police helicopters coming out. I just got my mixture 913 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: and I didn't wait. 914 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: You had a police helicopter kick you out of the 915 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: TGI Fridays. What the fuck? Yeah? 916 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: In this like the swat team came and shipped the 917 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 2: big ass bear cat. Yeah, they kicked this ou. 918 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: Why'd they call they? Why did they bring in a helicopter? 919 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I mean in l A. 920 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: I I DJ a lot out in LA, and they're 921 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 2: kind of famous for that. Like all the house parties 922 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 2: stuff that have got shut down, and I'm DJ four, 923 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: they usually bring a bring a police helicopter. I don't 924 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: know why that is, but yeah, almost all the house 925 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: parties that have ended like kind of crazily have ended 926 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: up with the with the police helicopter coming to shut 927 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 2: it down. 928 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: Why did you? I am I am curious. It sounds 929 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: like you had a pretty good thing going to LA. 930 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 1: Why did you move to Texas if you had more 931 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: connections over there? 932 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: I mean just because at that time I was young, 933 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: was making a lot of money. I had a sugar 934 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: mama and shit like that I was young making a 935 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: lot of money, but I was just again, I knew 936 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: a guy who was making six figures and he was 937 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 2: living paycheck at paycheck. So I was like, I got 938 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 2: to get my shit together. I need a four to 939 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 2: one K. I need to save his account, I need 940 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 2: health insurance and stuff like that. So I kind of 941 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: like matured in that sense, but like now that I'm 942 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: in it, and I'm like, damn, that sucks. I'd rather 943 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: just be DJ and TGF Fridays. Yeah, yeah, I kind 944 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: of touched twenty two And then. 945 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: I guess I'm sorry. You had a sugar mama. 946 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've Yeah, I've had. I've had like two 947 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: or three of them in my lifetimes. 948 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: But what does that entail? I mean? 949 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 2: I mean she she was a she was a porn star, 950 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: and I had met her, and she she wanted to 951 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 2: she wanted to to pay me for some sugar, and 952 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: and she did for a while, and I was making 953 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: really good money actually too as well, making really good 954 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: money with her. We would just hang out, kind of 955 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: shoot the shit a little bit right in a hotel 956 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: room and then do the thing and go my separate ways. 957 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: I have I have a lot of questions to follow 958 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: up to this, I'd imagine, how did you meet this 959 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: porn star? 960 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: Uh? So I had gotten to a car accident some 961 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, I had gotten into a car accident 962 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: and I had to go to physical therapy, and my 963 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: physical therapist there was kind of hitting on me. And 964 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: again I don't mean to too bune a horn, but 965 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 2: like I'm I'm I'm six five, I'm I'm athletic, I'm 966 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: a good looking dude. I've been told a few times. 967 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 2: So my physical therapist was kind of hitting on me 968 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: a little bit, like she was massaged me like a 969 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: little bit longer than she really needed to, and do 970 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: these extra exercises with me. And she was like one day, 971 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: she randomly just came out and said it. She's like, 972 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: you know who I am? And I was like no, 973 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 2: and she was like google my name and she gave 974 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 2: me her name and I googled it and she was 975 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: a porn star. I was like, oh shit, and I 976 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: was like that's you know way and she was like yeah. 977 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 2: She was like would you be interested in getting into 978 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: like that industry? And at that time I was like, dude, 979 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: hell yeah, it's like every dude's dream yeah, hell yeah. 980 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, eighteen nineteen twenty, I'm 981 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: gonna getting paid to do what I'm trying to do 982 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 2: all the time anyway, Hell yeah. So I mean yeah, 983 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 2: I took to dive. I went into it at and 984 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 2: at one of the auditions I think she had me 985 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 2: show up to with like a test fund and just 986 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 2: kind of see what's really like behind the scenes of 987 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 2: like a porno. I had went and there was this 988 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 2: lady who was shooting a scene and immediately, like as 989 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 2: soon as she saw me, she said to the director guy, 990 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: she was like, I want to fuck him. She said, 991 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: he was like, who is that? He is gorgeous. And 992 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 2: I heard her say and I kind of like blushed up. 993 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 2: It was weird. I never had like a grown ass 994 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: woman just out where me say that to me. So 995 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: I ended up, but you ended up kind of shooting 996 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 2: the ship, got a number and everything, and then we 997 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 2: hung out a few times and she told me about 998 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 2: She told me she was cool. It was like making 999 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 2: an arrangement with me to to pay me for for 1000 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: my time. So that's how that started. I met her 1001 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 2: on a set of a porn Now damn. 1002 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: Wait, so this and that was and this was a 1003 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: second lady. What happened with the physic So the physical 1004 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: therapist lady got you into porn, uh huh, and then 1005 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: you met the sugar Mama on the set of this 1006 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: porn thing. 1007 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, yep. 1008 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: So how so how deep did you go into the 1009 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: porn world? 1010 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: I mean I did my toes a little bit. I 1011 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: mean I did like a video or two, but it 1012 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 2: was just I don't know, it's weird, Like it's it's 1013 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 2: very weird because it's like it's not all all hyped 1014 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 2: as it is as it seems to be. Like it's 1015 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: very like you got guy, like I've tryed to do 1016 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: my thing and there's like the cameraman over my shoulder 1017 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 2: kind of fucking embracing me all up on me and 1018 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 2: he has like a camera over my shoulder. I'm saying 1019 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 2: to do my thing, and like it's kind of I'm 1020 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: already kind of like I'm not that outgoing. I'm kind 1021 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: of shy when it comes with stuff like that. So 1022 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 2: it was like kind of weird to stay like, for 1023 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: a lack of better words, it's hard to stay bricked 1024 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 2: up like that when there's when there's like eight people 1025 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 2: in the room, and you've got this guy with a 1026 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: camera over your shoulder and like behind your butt ship 1027 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 2: like that. It gets it's weird. So I didn't. I 1028 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 2: didn't continue it, but I did, like I did like 1029 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: two or three videos, and I got paid for it. It 1030 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 2: was cool. But it's just I don't I don't think 1031 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 2: I would ever I would ever do it again. 1032 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You'd rather be trading four X. 1033 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather be I'd rather just be running a 1034 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: whole bunch of sidequest, just trading four X and DJ 1035 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 2: and and hustling. Honestly, I just I fell in love. 1036 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 2: I fell in love with the with the with the 1037 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 2: thriller of the Chase. 1038 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hm. And so what this sugar mama like 1039 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: you said? You said you had a few. I'm sure, okay, 1040 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: So the sugar manta thing like this is an attractive woman. 1041 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's all right. I mean I give her, okay, 1042 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 2: she was an older woman. I mean, she wasn't bad looking. 1043 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 2: She had plastic surgery and ship, so she choose her. 1044 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I give her out of ten, i'd give 1045 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: her she I give her like a seven point eight. 1046 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 2: She was all right. 1047 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: How old was she? 1048 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 2: She was late forties, I believe. 1049 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so not at Bath was late in her sixties. Interesting. 1050 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: I guess I was well because I guess I was 1051 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: wondering like that lady could probably just like have sex 1052 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: with some guy without paying him. But I guess I 1053 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: guess she. I guess she wanted specifically you because you're 1054 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: six five beautiful. 1055 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so, I guess so uh for me? 1056 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: Hmm, okay, So why did that? How did that dissipate 1057 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: or did it just kind of just kind of ran 1058 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 1: its course. 1059 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 2: It just kind of just ran its course. She just uh, 1060 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: she she kind of realized she was getting older and everything, 1061 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 2: and she didn't have kids. And I was kind of 1062 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: in it just to do my thing and make some 1063 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 2: money and go my separate ways. But she ended up 1064 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 2: offering to pay me like twenty grand to like put 1065 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: a baby in her, and I was like, eh, I 1066 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 2: want to do all that. So we houcked up maybe 1067 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: like two or three times after that, but it just 1068 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 2: got kind of weird because I know that's what she wanted, 1069 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: So I can't even I can't do this anymore. It 1070 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 2: ran its course. 1071 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: You said you had a few of these. 1072 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had I've had like I think I've had 1073 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 2: like two, I've had like two or three. 1074 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you find the other ones? 1075 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 2: Uh? The other one. I was working at this job 1076 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 2: and like a pretty I was working on this corporate 1077 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: job and there was like this older lady. She was 1078 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 2: probably like mid like mid forties too as well, but 1079 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 2: she seemed like kind of young and fun and hip 1080 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 2: and shit. So I kind of I kind of like 1081 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 2: started to form a little attraction for her. So we 1082 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 2: hung out a few times that I invited her out. 1083 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: She was reluctant, of course, because I'm in my twenties 1084 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: and she's in her forties. She was kind of like 1085 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: reluctant to kind of hang out with me. But I 1086 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 2: finally cracked her. One day. I cracked her. I got 1087 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: it to go out to drink with me, and we 1088 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 2: kind of just we kind of just hit it off. 1089 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 2: From there. We started hanging out and she started buying 1090 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 2: me like work clothes and shit like that. That's that's 1091 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 2: one thing too, I will say about like dating older women, 1092 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: which I kind of prefer, is like they'll they'll they'll 1093 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 2: take care of you many I really will take done 1094 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 2: like kitty women my age but yeah, he's older women. Man, 1095 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 2: That's that's that's the wave. Man. I'm telling you. They 1096 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 2: knowlder women is the waves. 1097 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: So I get I guess, are you how do I 1098 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: say this? Are you gonna continue monetizing? Uh? 1099 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 2: Uh? 1100 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: How beautiful you are? 1101 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 2: Like? 1102 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: Are there like could you be a model or something? Nah? 1103 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: Nah, I don't. I mean I've been. I don't really 1104 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 2: feel that way about myself, but I get told it 1105 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: a lot. But it's just I don't know. I don't know. 1106 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 2: It's weird. 1107 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: Man. 1108 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 2: Like I have my days where like I'm filling myself. 1109 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I do look good. But the majority 1110 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: of the time I'm kind of just I don't know. 1111 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: I keep my head down. I'm not really trying to 1112 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, do all that. I'm just 1113 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: I'm just here. I'm just trying to trying to hustle. Man. 1114 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: Are you Are you dating at all? 1115 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 1116 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: Not at the moment, since that last situation went kind 1117 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 2: of bad. I mean I mean, I mean, yeah, no, 1118 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm not really dating them. Yeah, I mean I'm on 1119 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 2: the apps, but they all go to shit. I mean, 1120 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 2: you send that a like out to the universe and 1121 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: doesn't go anywhere. So mm hmm, yeah, I'm not. I'm 1122 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 2: kind of just focusing on the on the time that 1123 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 2: I have off right now, just trying to hustle and 1124 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 2: make it so I don't have to go back to 1125 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 2: work if I don't want to. 1126 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 1: You sound like you sound like you've had a cool, 1127 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: fun life so far. 1128 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's been all right, It's been 1129 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 2: all right. I've had my ups and downs, but I 1130 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 2: can definitely uniquely say that I've done a lot of 1131 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 2: things in my lifetime, but a lot of people have 1132 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: never got to do so. I mean, I take pride 1133 00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 2: in that I look back at my memories of my 1134 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 2: photos sometimes I'm like, damn, I was really I was 1135 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 2: really sixteen skipping school to go DJ at the Coliseum 1136 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: in LA and to go to go DJ for two chains, 1137 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 2: and then had to go to school the next day 1138 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 2: and walk around like you people don't even know what 1139 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 2: the hell I just did yesterday, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. 1140 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of time. I've had a lot 1141 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: of shit like that in my life where I'm like, 1142 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I feel really blessed. I've gotten to 1143 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: do a lot of really cool things with my life 1144 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: in the last like ten years. 1145 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you're like, I agree, man, you haven't 1146 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 2: had to like work an actual job, which fucking sucks. 1147 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's cool. I mean, this is a job, 1148 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 2: and like, of course you have like your your ups 1149 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: and your down days, but you're in a very unique 1150 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 2: position too, where you don't you don't have to you 1151 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 2: don't have to deal with other people's bullshit like on 1152 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 2: a day day and then have to clock in and 1153 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 2: have to do all that. You're in a very unique position. 1154 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 2: And that's that's the reason why I listen to you. 1155 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 2: I think it's very cool. Like I respect people who 1156 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: are hustle and who who want to work for themselves, 1157 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: and you've kept it up for a very long time. 1158 00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 2: It's inspiring. 1159 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that, and I listen, you sound 1160 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: like you're on your way to your version of that 1161 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: because you're I think what I think. I genuinely do 1162 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: believe with this kind of stuff, it is a bit 1163 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: of a matter of just like continuing to hack at it. 1164 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I of course I have survivorship bias, but uh, 1165 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: I feel like it is almost inevitable if you just 1166 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: keep hacking things I mean, I don't know. I mean shit, man, 1167 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: I like even even I guess, like in my own life, 1168 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: like even though like things have been going well with 1169 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: this with the podcast and stuff, like, I'm still everything 1170 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: you create for yourself becomes its own. Prison is not 1171 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: a good word, but its own. 1172 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 2: Uh capsule, like it's on yeah, like it's on obligatory, Like. 1173 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: It's it's an obligation. Yeah, it's on obligation. And I 1174 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 1: you know what's funny is if you're the kind of 1175 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: person who's always I've I'm the kind of person I'm 1176 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: always trying to escape, you know, even and and like 1177 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: I you escape something and by creating something else, and 1178 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: then you try to escape that. Like a good example 1179 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: is like I'm always like thinking about like, oh, once 1180 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna escape this city and move to 1181 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: this new one. And then you keep that goes on 1182 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: like an infinite thing of like one day I'll move 1183 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: here and then then like I like, it always just 1184 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: keeps going, you know what I mean. But that's good. 1185 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: That's how like life evolves. That's how you stop staying. 1186 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: That's how you stop you know, That's how you get 1187 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,919 Speaker 1: to a point where you're fucking seventy eighty years old 1188 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, damn, we ran the gamuts. But also 1189 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: but it's also but it's also how you get to 1190 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: seventy eighty years old and be like, wow, I have 1191 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: no family and friends and it was all for nothing. Sorry, Yeah, 1192 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: find that. I thought you would find that funny and 1193 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: not depressing. 1194 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean, that's that's the goal. I mean, 1195 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 2: I again, I would rather have my obligation and my 1196 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 2: prison be working for myself then haspen to work at 1197 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 2: a company where I'm there and not really progressing for 1198 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 2: fucking thirty years, like I have much rather have my 1199 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 2: prison that that that I'm interested in and uh that 1200 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 2: that I that I want to do, versus doing something 1201 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 2: like I have to do. 1202 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: You know, of course, of course prison is not a 1203 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: good word. Prison is not what I meant. 1204 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know what you mean, but just 1205 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 2: for a lack of terms, I was throwing that turn 1206 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 2: back at you, I know exactly what you mean. 1207 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's good. I mean I think well 1208 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 1: because also because the the kind of people who do 1209 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: like uh like, such as yourself, who do have this 1210 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 1: thing and then that want to keep evolving. I don't 1211 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: think it. I don't think it goes away, you know 1212 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. So like you'll start so like you'll 1213 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: start like uh like maybe one day one of your 1214 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: three D printed prints will pop off and you'll be 1215 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: making three D prints, you know, and you're like, Okay, great, 1216 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: I finally escaped the rye race and making a living 1217 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 1: off three D prints. But you're gonna have something in 1218 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 1: you that's like, oh, but I want to do this too, 1219 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: And I want to do this too, you know, because 1220 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: because it because you have a thing within you that 1221 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: makes you want to just keep evolving. And you know, 1222 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: but that's good. That's good. It's a good thing to have. 1223 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a good thing to have. And 1224 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: I think it's it's very dope to to continue to 1225 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 2: chase that because then again, I I have scatter brain. 1226 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 2: I have so many different ideas and thoughts and everything, 1227 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 2: and it's dope to actually like when I put when 1228 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 2: I put some some effort towards like the thought that 1229 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 2: I had that I think would be a good idea, 1230 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 2: it's always rewording. Well. 1231 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I I'm rooting for you. I think it's 1232 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: all really cool. I think you're I think you're a 1233 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: cool guy. I think I have a lot of respect 1234 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: for you that you're, you know, like really making a 1235 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: good life for yourself after you know, dealing with some 1236 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: difficult circumstances and ship. I got a lot of I 1237 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for you, man. I think 1238 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: it's cool. I appreciate you sharing all this stuff with us. 1239 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks man. Yeah, it feels good to kind of 1240 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 2: talk about it and kind of like reflects on all 1241 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 2: the crazy cool shit I've done because I get down 1242 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, damn, I don't really have anybody. I'm 1243 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 2: not really doing like enough. Sometimes it's like I'm not 1244 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,919 Speaker 2: doing enough, like sitting here talking to you in the phone, 1245 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 2: and I'm like, damn, I've lived like four different, four 1246 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: different crazy as life. 1247 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: Well that's what it takes, because yeah, of course, because 1248 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,479 Speaker 1: that's what it takes, is to like cause you only 1249 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: get you. 1250 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1251 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: Now, once you start like like really like reflecting on 1252 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: your life, it can kind of bring out like it 1253 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: can help you sort of thwart whatever narratives you've created 1254 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: for yourself. Do you want to plug you? Do you 1255 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: have like a DJ thing you want to plug? I 1256 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: don't know if after. I don't know if you want 1257 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: to identify yourself, but if you do, it's fair game. 1258 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will screw you. I'll do it. It's just it's 1259 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 2: just my name. So it's just spelled out. It's on 1260 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 2: Instagram and it's on TikTok and everything, but it's it's 1261 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 2: Gray Jean my name. So it's B like boy r 1262 00:57:53,160 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 2: A Z like zebra ja B what that's long weird, 1263 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 2: got a long ass name. So it's B like boy 1264 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 2: r A Z like zebra j h A N. And 1265 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 2: then I should pop up right there and. 1266 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: Peat and Jean. Yeah, it's the moment you have. Your 1267 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: name is written in Arabic. Right, Oh okay, this is okay. 1268 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,919 Speaker 1: This is definitely not you. 1269 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 2: B R yeah, B R A Z j h A 1270 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 2: N N N three. 1271 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: Oh okay, only I put one N on there, yeah 1272 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: three yeah three? Oh there we go. Okay, look at this. 1273 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh this is the look cool man? Hell yeah sick. 1274 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: I love yeah, I love this picture of you DJing 1275 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: with the orange and ship. That looks cool. 1276 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. One of my buddies took that shot. That 1277 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 2: was like mide me up club out in l A. 1278 00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 2: That was a pretty good night. 1279 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: Cool man, well, brajeon, this is this is great talking 1280 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: to you man. Uh, I'm ins I'm inspired by the hustle. 1281 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm inspired by this. This was this was this was 1282 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: an enjoyable conversation for me. I appreciate you sharing everything. 1283 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: Is there? Is there anything else you wanna say to 1284 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: the people of the computer or talk about or whatever 1285 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: else about life before we go? 1286 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 2: Nah? Man, just fucking Catalina wine, mix your boats. 1287 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: And hose swag. Thank you, I'll good luck to you, man, 1288 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: I'll see you around the universe. 1289 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 2: All right, thanks, see you lady man. Good quess. 1290 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: I liked that guy a lot. I liked that, you know, 1291 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: clearly he's got clearly he's facing like a lot of challenges, 1292 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, with like his fucking family situation and fucking 1293 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, the general mental anxiety that comes with UH 1294 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: being alive on the planet. And I don't know, I 1295 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: like the way he's uh. I like the way he's 1296 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: doing it. I have a lot of respect for it. 1297 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: I saw, like while I stream these phone calls live 1298 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: on Twitch, and I saw people in the chat saying 1299 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: that he might have been making all this stuff up. 1300 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this just in general. On 1301 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: this podcast about like, oh, are people making stuff up? 1302 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 2: You know? 1303 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Like that, Like I posted a clip from the woman 1304 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: who talked about what is It who talked about meeting 1305 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: that homeless guy on the streets and sleeping in the 1306 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: train station with him, and everyone was like it's fake 1307 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. And listen, I'm telling you, as the part 1308 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: for a lot of things, as the person taking all 1309 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 1: these phone calls and talking to all these people, I 1310 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: really very rarely, if ever, like if like, I really 1311 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: rarely think that people are making stuff up personally, no 1312 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 1: offense to anyone, but I'm gonna throw this out there. 1313 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I think the people who tend to go on the 1314 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: internet and be like this person's story is fake are 1315 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 1: people who haven't really lived a lot of life. Uh So, 1316 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: Like cause if you if you're a person who puts 1317 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: yourself out there and says yes to things and tries 1318 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: and you know whatever, like like this. You know, like 1319 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: like this guy Brazen, you know he someone's like, hey 1320 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: should try poorn. He's like yeah, okay. Or someone's like, 1321 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, hey go to Jamie Fox's house. He's like yeah, okay. 1322 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: You know he's saying yes, he's putting himself out there 1323 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: he's trying. If you're someone who does that, you know 1324 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 1: that life is really like weird and crazy or like 1325 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the woman who slept with the guy on the train, 1326 01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: like like shit, fucking shit happened, So you know what 1327 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean. So I really I believe ninety nine point 1328 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: ninety ninety nine. Sometimes a guy calls in and is like, yeah, 1329 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I fucked my cousin. Actually, one time a guy did 1330 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: call in to talk about fucking his cousin. I did 1331 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 1: believe him. But like things happen, I believe every word 1332 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: of what this guy was talking about. And uh the 1333 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: other like like I don't know, man, shit is just 1334 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 1: uh like I think like like people I don't like 1335 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: if you go out, like life is crazier than you 1336 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: think it is. So I have no real reason to 1337 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: not uh believe the you know, not only the like 1338 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: empirical events that people talk about on this show, but 1339 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: like their feelings about them, like, uh, you know, it's 1340 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: it feels it, it's very it feels real. That's just 1341 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: that's my perspective on it. But anyway, I appreciate raising 1342 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: for calling in and sharing his story. Hey, what's up, folks, 1343 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 1: it's Lyle here. I just wanted to give you a 1344 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: little bit more episode and thought I would read just 1345 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,919 Speaker 1: a few gek mails, maybe a couple, maybe just one. 1346 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't know whatever I'm feeling today, just to you know, 1347 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: give you guys a little bit of bonus Gecko time. 1348 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: So I have some emails in front of me. I'll 1349 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: read one or two of them before we go. I 1350 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed that call that we just had 1351 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: with our young DJ hustler friend. I really liked that guy. 1352 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, yeah, let's read a few emails. Let's see. Ah, 1353 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: here we go. This is This is from Bray. Subject 1354 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 1: line femboy identity and dealing with self perception problems. Hello, 1355 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: mister Gecko, I am Bray. I want to quickly get 1356 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: the fanboy stuff out of the way. I've listened to 1357 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: your podcast since I was sixteen, and it's been a 1358 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: huge part of my day to day. Very much helped 1359 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: me cope with many quiet periods of my teenage life. 1360 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: I love your show and your takes on everyone's issues, 1361 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and I want to say you're awesome. I was a 1362 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: top ten listener on Spotify this year. Btw. Thank you, Bray. Also, 1363 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: thank you to everyone else who I got a lot 1364 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: of really nice messages about Spotify rapped and because I 1365 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: know they do a podcast one, so thank you to 1366 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: everyone who has listened to even one single minute of 1367 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: me doing this. I saw some guy in fuck Spain 1368 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 1: or some guy in some non English speaking country logged 1369 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: like a full month of the podcast this year, so 1370 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that guy. So yeah, thank you guys very 1371 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: much for sending me that stuff. Anyway, anyway, back debray, 1372 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: I've always been lost in terms of identity and self perception. 1373 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: I know everyone goes through life changing and developing their 1374 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: version of self and creating a vessel, but I've never 1375 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: been sure of who I am and especially how I'd 1376 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: like to appear to the people around me. Since last year, 1377 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 1: I've been experimenting with my feminine side, dressing up as 1378 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: a stereotypical femboy in private. I normally like appearing androgynous 1379 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 1: and going against typical manly behaviors, having long hair, doing 1380 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: a bit of eyeliner and makeup, and also skincare. It 1381 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: makes me feel comfortable and confident, but I struggle with 1382 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: how I perceive myself versus how others see me. I'm 1383 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 1: a I'm a relatively average looking guy, but I take 1384 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 1: really good feminine photos. I think these photos fool me 1385 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: into thinking I'm more feminine than I really am. I'm 1386 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: literally oblivious to how I look, which is ruining my 1387 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 1: mental health and identity that I've made since I was 1388 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: a kid. Huh, why is being oblivious to how you 1389 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: look ruining your identity? All right? Hold on, I have thoughts, 1390 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna finish the email. I have dabbled in 1391 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: posting pictures of me and feminine clothing on Reddit, but 1392 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the compliments I receive online haven't ever really felt good 1393 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 1: or meaningful. I don't get confidence from online interactions, nor 1394 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: do I feel engaged with them either. At this point, 1395 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: I live by the confidence I receive from the mirror, 1396 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 1: and the days where I'm not confident in how I 1397 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 1: see myself are some of the most depressing moments in 1398 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: my life. All in all, I'm a boring, emo looking 1399 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 1: boy living in Australia who's deluded himself into thinking he's cute, 1400 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,439 Speaker 1: And it's just wondering how you deal with your own 1401 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: self perception and identity, how you cope with negative thoughts, 1402 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: or how you deal with anxiety from being self conscious. 1403 01:06:54,240 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: Thanks Bray, A lot of stuff in here, A lot 1404 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: of stuff in here. There was one line where you 1405 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: were like, I'm oblivious to how I look and that's 1406 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: ruining my mental health. I'm wondering why, and also like 1407 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: your oblivious to Like, Okay, you're saying that, you're saying 1408 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: you're I assume you're saying you're oblivious to how other 1409 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 1: people are perceiving you. So I'll tell you a few things, 1410 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 1: which is how the knowledge of how you are being 1411 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: perceived by others is only helpful when it's helpful, you 1412 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I've talked about this before, But 1413 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: there's like a I believe in like a strong spectrum. 1414 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: I believe there's an optimal place to be on the 1415 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: spectrum of like conscientiousness, right, because you don't want to 1416 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: completely disregard the way in which you come off to 1417 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: other people, because there's valuable in in there, right, But 1418 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: you also don't want to be too obsessed with it 1419 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 1: because at a certain point it's moot how you come 1420 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: off to other people because there's infinite people and you 1421 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: only have your one life, So who really gives a fluck? 1422 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: It depends on what you're trying to do and how 1423 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: you're trying to live your life and all these things. 1424 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, look, man, here's the thing about like 1425 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: your identity. And also, you were sixteen when you started 1426 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, so I'm gonna assume you're probably 1427 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 1: like eighteen nineteen something like that. Your identity can be 1428 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 1: whatever you want it to be, you know. I mean, 1429 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: if you want to dress up like a girl and 1430 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 1: take photos of yourself as a girl and that's and 1431 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 1: you feel to yourself that you are cute and that 1432 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: makes you feel good, then fucking do it. 1433 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 2: You know. 1434 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I feel like I haven't gotten 1435 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: into the full crux of this issue. Okay, the confidence 1436 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: I received from the mirror is where. Oh I live 1437 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,759 Speaker 1: by the confidence I receive in the mirror. That's great. 1438 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good thing, Bray, that's a good thing. 1439 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: If you build up your identity on and I know 1440 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 1: this because I do it, if you build up your 1441 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 1: identity from like internet likes and like com and like 1442 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 1: external validation, you're building a fucking castle of sand, you know, 1443 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: and everyone knows that. So good. I think that's good. 1444 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,839 Speaker 1: I think it's a healthy thing to not really feel 1445 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 1: that much from compliments on the internet. It'd be way 1446 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 1: worse if you were to if you were telling me, like, 1447 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: I can only feel good about myself other people on 1448 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,599 Speaker 1: the internet are telling me that I'm attractive and amazing. 1449 01:09:55,680 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's a bad thing. But so so 1450 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: I guess it's more about like a self perception. Hm hm, oh, okay, 1451 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,919 Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. Okay, no, okay. This person is posting 1452 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: pictures of himself being a girl on the internet and 1453 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 1: people are saying that he looks cute, but then he 1454 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 1: is looking in the mirror and he does and he 1455 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 1: doesn't see what the other people are seeing. Okay, that 1456 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: makes sense. I think. I think that's it. Uh, I'm 1457 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 1: a boring, emo looking guy in Australia who's deluded himself 1458 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 1: into thinking he's cute. I mean, think whatever you fucking 1459 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: want about yourself. I believe that, like I do believe 1460 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: in manifestation in some regard of like whatever narrative you 1461 01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 1: want to play into, like uh, hours your actions, I suppose, so, 1462 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 1: like if you walk around thinking that you're cute, then 1463 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,759 Speaker 1: it does kind of rub off, you know, to an extent. 1464 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 1: Of course, like you don't want to be like completely delusional, but. 1465 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1466 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Man, believe whatever, Believe whatever you want about yourself. Bray, 1467 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of fake it till you make it, 1468 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: and maybe we will all one day make it. Uh okay, 1469 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 1: let's read like one more. This is from Bailey. I'm 1470 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 1: thirty and still having nocturnal emissions. Uh okay. I'm thirty 1471 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,480 Speaker 1: and on occasion, I still have wet dreams, or nocturnal 1472 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: emissions as they are called. I'm not exactly sure when 1473 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: this first started, but I would say that this has 1474 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: been a thing for about half my life, and took 1475 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 1: quantify the frequency. I would guess this happens at least 1476 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,480 Speaker 1: once a month, maybe on average a little more. Sometimes 1477 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 1: it has happened twice in a night. Thankfully, it hasn't 1478 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: happened in over a week or two. I have never 1479 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 1: talked to a doctor or a therapist about this, and 1480 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: I don't really want to. It seems my problem is 1481 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: dream induced, so something freaky might be going down in 1482 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 1: my dream leading me to finish finishing as soon as 1483 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 1: it happens, I wake up, and then the feeling I 1484 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: have when I wake is that I have to pee, 1485 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 1: so in an attempt to prevent this, I try to 1486 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 1: cut off drinking any fluids at least an hour or 1487 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: more before I go to bed. I also read that 1488 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 1: sleeping on your back helps, so I try to do 1489 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 1: that when falling asleep. To embarrass myself further with this issue. 1490 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: I have a longtime girlfriend. However, thankfully she has no 1491 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 1: idea about this. But this has happened when I've stayed 1492 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 1: over at her place. Because it seems like it is unpredictable. 1493 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I pack extra underwear when whenever I am not staying 1494 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: at my place, and when it happens, I wake up, 1495 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,759 Speaker 1: go clean myself up, and change. When this has happened 1496 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 1: and I am at her place, as I'm getting back 1497 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 1: in bed, she will ask if I'm okay since I 1498 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: keep getting up in the middle of the night. I 1499 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 1: believe I have her thinking I have bladder issues or 1500 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: an upset stomach, which is good. I don't really have 1501 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: anything specific I'm looking from you for from you other 1502 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 1: than your thoughts on this matter. I don't really want 1503 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 1: to consult a doctor on this, as I'm embarrassed by it. 1504 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to think I am a sex addict, 1505 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 1: What do the hell does this have to be in 1506 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 1: a sex addict? While I did see that masturbation and 1507 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 1: sex can reduce this from happening, I'd like to refrain 1508 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: from watching porn. If you read this on your podcast, 1509 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 1: thank you. I'll be listening for your reaction in any 1510 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: words you have on this matter. Okay, Bailey, Uh, First 1511 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,679 Speaker 1: of all, First of all, I can tell that you're 1512 01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: carrying way too much. You're carrying way, way way too 1513 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,719 Speaker 1: much shame about this, my friend. You're like, it's all right, brother, 1514 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: It's all right to come. It's our biological imperative. It's 1515 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: okay to come. Your girlfriend doesn't care that you come 1516 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 1: in your sleep. A doctor doesn't care that you come 1517 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,640 Speaker 1: in your sleep. You're not a sex addict because you 1518 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 1: come in your sleep. You're You're okay, brother. I want 1519 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 1: to I want to go into this guy's brain and 1520 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,679 Speaker 1: make him realize that he's fine, because he's clearly freaking 1521 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 1: out about a thing that's really not that big of 1522 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 1: a deal. So, I mean, that's the main thing I 1523 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,679 Speaker 1: would say, is like, you're definitely taking this thing and 1524 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 1: making it into much bigger of a deal than than 1525 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: it is. Like, what if your girlfriend. Your girlfriend doesn't 1526 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: care that you come in your sleep? Dude, are you 1527 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 1: peeing your sleep? You're coming in your sleep? I think 1528 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 1: you're coming in I think I think you're coming in 1529 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 1: your sleep. Yeah, wet dreams, Yeah, I think you're coming 1530 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 1: in your sleep. How much are you because I because 1531 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I think everyone comes in their sleep a little bit. 1532 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,120 Speaker 1: But well, I'm curious. How much are you coming in 1533 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 1: your sleep? Are you like full? Are you coming full 1534 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: loads in your sleep? I cut off drinking fluids at 1535 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 1: least an hour before I go to bed. See are 1536 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 1: you don't? Are you peeing in your sleep? Or you're 1537 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 1: coming in your sleep? I try to cut off fluids 1538 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: at least an hour or more before I go to bed. 1539 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 1: That reads that you're peeing, but the sex part of 1540 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: it makes it leads to your I'm gonna assume you're 1541 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: coming in your sleep, and I'm gonna assume you're coming 1542 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: strong liquiity comes in your sleep? Does that happen? Go 1543 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,600 Speaker 1: to a doctor, man, there's notion. You don't need to 1544 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 1: be ashamed of this. I'd like to refrain from watching 1545 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 1: Do You Wait? Hold On? I don't want myself to 1546 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 1: think I'm a sex act or anything. But I did 1547 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,679 Speaker 1: see that masturbation and sex can reduce this from happening. 1548 01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:01,479 Speaker 1: I'd like to refrain from watching porn. There's so much 1549 01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 1: of it. Do you have Do you not have sex 1550 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,599 Speaker 1: or masturbate ever? If you don't have sex or masturbate ever, 1551 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 1: then then yeah, then then yeah, something's gonna They're fucking 1552 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: damn building up and something's gotta go at some point. 1553 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 1: You don't have to watch pooring to masturbate. You can 1554 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: just do it. Do you and your girlfriend not have sex? 1555 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 1: It sounds like you have shame about having sex and 1556 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 1: masturbatings too. Billy I, Billy Bailey, Billy Billy, release the 1557 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 1: shame and fucking have sex and masturbate and come in 1558 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: your sleep like it's fine. There's no you're putting value 1559 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 1: judgments on this thing for just no reason. Maybe you 1560 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 1: had a religious upbringing, maybe you just are scared. I 1561 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: don't know, but that's my main thought is you should 1562 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 1: uh relinquish the shame. And it's just you know, because look, 1563 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 1: you either jack Your body is telling you you either 1564 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 1: need to jack off while you're awake, or jack off, 1565 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 1: or or it'll jack off for you while you're dreaming about, uh, 1566 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Lola Bunny or Selma Hyak or whatever your thing is. 1567 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,639 Speaker 1: Do you watch TV? You're seeing this kind of seems 1568 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 1: like the kind of person that thinks that watching TV 1569 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,639 Speaker 1: is sinful and maybe wouldn't know who Lola Bunny is. 1570 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: It's okay, It's okay for you to watch Lola Bunny. 1571 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: Hentai Billy, You're all right. If I could be the 1572 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 1: if I'm the if I could be the first person 1573 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,679 Speaker 1: in your life to tell you it's okay to come, 1574 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm an honored to do that. So don't don't be 1575 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 1: embarrassed by it. Man, Just fucking go to the doctor 1576 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,560 Speaker 1: if you need to tell your girlfriend. Nothing wrong with it. 1577 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: The only the only thing that's I jend you know 1578 01:17:52,040 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 1: what's funny is is contradictatorially. Contradictorily. It's more weird to 1579 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 1: me that you find this weird then that this is occurring. 1580 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 1: So let yourself live, Bailey. That's all I gotta say. 1581 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 1: All Right, I think that's that's the end of my 1582 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 1: gackmail reading. But there's more emails here, but I'll fuck 1583 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 1: my voice cracked. Okay, I'm alive. I'm okay. See that 1584 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 1: was kind of embarrassing, but I don't care. I'm gonna 1585 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 1: own it. I'm alive. There's more emails here, but I'll 1586 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 1: read them on another episode. I hope you guys enjoyed this. 1587 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 1: I hope that you are enjoying the podcast. I hope 1588 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 1: you liked the conversation that I had with the caller 1589 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,760 Speaker 1: I did. Maybe some of you will get into four 1590 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 1: X trading. I didn't. I didn't tell you about that. 1591 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 1: That was someone else. 1592 01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 1593 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Go to Therapy Echo tour dot com. I'm planning my 1594 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,599 Speaker 1: live shows. I'm excited about them. Give me your email 1595 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,640 Speaker 1: or phone number or whatever, or don't I mean you? 1596 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Should you? Or do you should? Should? I want you 1597 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: to come. I want you to come to my show. 1598 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 1: And I want Bailey to come on a towel or 1599 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,799 Speaker 1: wherever he wants to come. This was the Therapeuticle podcast. 1600 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 1: Thank you again for listening, Thanks for sharing your Spotify 1601 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 1: raps with me. And here's to many more years of 1602 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,360 Speaker 1: talking into this microphone and talking to people and being 1603 01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,600 Speaker 1: a gecko and living life gek bless. 1604 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 2: Everythink goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night, 1605 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,640 Speaker 2: everything goes, and I'm just. 1606 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 3: Teaching you aloud, in the mean of your life. 1607 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 2: He's not ready an expert