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Speaker 1: to the corner. Welcome to hang out, new week. Just

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Speaker 1: baseball show, Uh, Monday night football tonight is what. That's

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's return to Seattle. So just baseball country, Let's ride,

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Speaker 1: just baseball country. Let's ride, just baseball country. Let's ride,

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Speaker 1: Let's ride.

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be one of the weirder things anyone.

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Speaker 1: Well, so my favorite thing that happened with all that

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Speaker 1: was the college football programs, Like you got all these

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks of the college football programs were like the head

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Speaker 1: coaches doing the same thing, like JT. Daniels at West

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Speaker 1: Virginia Mountaineer Nation. Let's rye Mountaineer Nation. Like it was

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Speaker 1: so so cringe, so cringey, but everybody leaned into it,

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Speaker 1: which was just awesome. So we're talking unions. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: spend forty minutes talking unions. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Please? Please? I'd love to just talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, So let's jump in union yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I guess I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the rule changes. Obviously, that's

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Speaker 1: to pretend like we know what we're talking about. Just

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Speaker 1: mentioned on another podcast that I hopped on that I've

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Speaker 1: got an LSAT test prep booklet sitting in my sitting

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Speaker 2: kind of just like Hedge on the I talk about

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Speaker 2: oh well, if push comes to shove, I'll just go

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Speaker 1: Well, full transparency. I have crippling anxiety.

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Speaker 2: So I know, so you just keep that book around

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stuck is up. But if if you if everything

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Speaker 1: Yes, but then you make bank bro, you get paid.

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Speaker 1: I think I would rather do this too, And that's

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Speaker 2: In regards to performance, right, which is interesting because we

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Speaker 1: I love that you id Donaldson because Donaldson is absolutely

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Speaker 2: Guarantee it. I absolutely guarantee Josh Donaldson will be annoying

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Speaker 3: So, like I've used and I think I talked about it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it'll be a quicker one. And that's the

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Speaker 2: funny article ten pitchers with the slowest tempos who could

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Speaker 2: great article idea though I love it. Yes, that's what

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Speaker 1: So, Hira Kazu Sawamura is the shittiest pace of play

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Speaker 2: Well, actually he's on here, but he's not the shittiest ever.

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Speaker 2: He's actually the eighth shittiest ever. About twenty two seconds

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. I bet this list is very close or

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Kimberl's not on that list? He is not, dude. Kenley

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeap, he is well inside of it at number three,

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Speaker 1: More closers, I'm thinking like older side of closers, am am,

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Speaker 2: Twenty six seconds with the bases empty, thirty three seconds

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Speaker 2: because he's just so disgusting, just marvel for thirty seconds

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Speaker 2: surprise Jansen at three, Kyle Finnegan at four. You were

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Speaker 2: Familiar face. Sorry, JS, Well, you're on the right track there,

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Speaker 1: Liam Hendricks No, oh uh, white sock yeah, current Yeah.

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Speaker 2: twenty eight seconds. Devin Williams is also in there, Alex

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Speaker 1: So the three guys that I think are gonna be

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Speaker 2: Just so we can throw a fit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this, and I'm wanting to tell him to get

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Speaker 2: It's still my favorite thing that anybody has ever said.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, those guys are gonna really need to

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Speaker 2: Like, and it's guys throwing like one inning every two days,

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Speaker 1: Out the the real benefit to this, Like, I do

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Speaker 1: Pitchers will use this to their advantage. And we've talked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's annoying when a strike thrower is on the

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Speaker 2: And they'll have their infield on their toes. Yeah, which

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Speaker 2: We've talked about that because like Jared Schuster, he catches

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Speaker 1: I love it. Hey, we'll talk. We'll talk pickoffs now.

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Speaker 1: The new rule is you are allowed to disengagements with

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Speaker 1: runners on in any plate appearance. If a runner does

434
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Speaker 1: advance a base, then that resets. You get two more

435
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Speaker 1: disengagements if you do disengage. If you do step off

436
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Speaker 1: the mound for a third time and you are unsuccessful

437
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Speaker 1: in your pickoff attempt, the runner is awarded the next base.

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Speaker 1: This is the big one in terms of stolen bases.

439
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Speaker 1: If a guy throws over twice, a lot of dudes

440
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Speaker 1: will try swiping the bag on first movement. They've been

441
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Speaker 1: wildly successful at the minor league level. Not only are

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Speaker 1: we seeing stolen bases up, we are seeing stolen based

443
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Speaker 1: percentage skyrocket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, it's funny because I this was the

445
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Speaker 2: one that I was a little bit uh, it wasn't

446
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Speaker 2: as much of a I love this right out of

447
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Speaker 2: the gate for me when I when I first heard

448
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: it implemented in the minor leagues, and there were some

449
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Speaker 2: other kind of rules within that when it came to

450
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Speaker 2: holding guys on that they experimented with at the lower

451
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Speaker 2: levels that I thought just kind of took it a

452
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Speaker 2: bit too far. And this is a good spot to

453
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Speaker 2: kind of settle at. But the fact that stolen bases

454
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Speaker 2: have become so antiquated in today's game at the major

455
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Speaker 2: league level, I'm here for any rule to bring that

456
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Speaker 2: back because I think those are electric and you know,

457
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: stolen bases are really fun part of baseball. My only

458
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: concern is, and I know, there's nothing worse than people

459
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Speaker 2: picking off like four or five times in and at bat. Again,

460
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Speaker 2: we've we know that fans don't love that because that's

461
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Speaker 2: one of the most easy it's the easy way to

462
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Speaker 2: get booed. Ever, I think it's ridiculous to boo because

463
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: obviously these guys are just trying to keep the runner close.

464
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 2: But I mean fans boo because it's annoying and it

465
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: really slows the game down. My thing is, you know,

466
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Speaker 2: you pick over twice in a long ab you know,

467
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Speaker 2: let's say it's a seven pitch at bat, it's a battle,

468
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Speaker 2: and you pick over twice, you know, every three pitches there.

469
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Speaker 2: Now the base runner has such an advantage it just

470
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Speaker 2: almost is a little bit too dramatic of an advantage

471
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Speaker 2: for me at that point, Like being able to get

472
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Speaker 2: a lead where you know there's a ninety seven percent

473
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Speaker 2: chance of guy's not picking off, right, you can get

474
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Speaker 2: an extra half step and maybe a full step and

475
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Speaker 2: dare him to pick off because if he doesn't get you,

476
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Speaker 2: you just got the free base. Anyways, that part of

477
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Speaker 2: it is a little bit weird to me. I'm gonna

478
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: have to get a bit acclimated to that. But I again,

479
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Speaker 2: I will prioritize the added stolen base to the game,

480
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: and I'll and I'll deal with it. But but that

481
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: is one thing for me that I'm a little bit

482
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Speaker 2: on the fence about. It's just the kind of advantage

483
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: you get after two throws over. I will say, though,

484
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Speaker 2: three throws over and a single at bat is a lot.

485
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Speaker 2: And it's at bat right, It's not just when the

486
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Speaker 2: runner's on. It's it's throws over per at bat. Is

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Speaker 2: that correct?

488
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Speaker 1: It throws over per at bat.

489
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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's better than like throws over per like

490
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Speaker 2: period of time per guy on the base. Yeah, that

491
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Speaker 2: would drive me not that would be stupid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be stupid. But they have it right,

493
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Speaker 1: you know, to the third. If you're unsuccessful, he gets

494
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Speaker 1: the second base. Efficiency is kind of the name of

495
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Speaker 1: the game here and I saw it last year at

496
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Speaker 1: the High A level. I saw this pickoff rule. The

497
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Speaker 1: other rule that was kind of added to it was

498
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Speaker 1: you need to fully disengage from the rubber. And I'm

499
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Speaker 1: not sure if Major League Baseball included that or not,

500
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Speaker 1: because that's big, because you can't make that inside hop

501
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: move as a right handed pitcher like you to step

502
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: off the back of the mount and throw it to first.

503
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's included or not. That was

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: the deal in High A last year. And I want

505
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Speaker 1: to bring up a guy, Delvin Zin, who was in

506
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Speaker 1: High A last Yeah, you know, you know that name, walked.

507
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: Up to the Cupid shuffle. I remember watching him.

508
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Speaker 1: Delvin Zin had a three hundred OBP and sixty seven

509
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: games with South Bend. Three hundred OBP is like, well,

510
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Speaker 1: it's below average, but he was forty two for forty

511
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Speaker 1: eight and stolen bases because he knew he had enough

512
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Speaker 1: time with the full disengagement and throw over to get

513
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Speaker 1: back with a massive lead, and as soon as he

514
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Speaker 1: saw the slide step or as soon as somebody threw

515
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Speaker 1: over twice, he was often moving. Whenever he was on base,

516
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: he was stealing a base successfully and like, yes he's fast,

517
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Speaker 1: but not even the fastest guys in baseball should be

518
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Speaker 1: forty two for forty eight, but that's what he was.

519
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where it's a little tough again, Like that's

520
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: where it's like, but I will, I will air on

521
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Speaker 2: the side of that because again, like we'll get the

522
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: stolen base leaders this year in Major League baseball. It's

523
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: it's just kind of a joke. You know, you're seeing

524
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: guys that maybe aren't even full time players but are

525
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: really fast, you know, among the leaders in stolen bases,

526
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Speaker 2: which is which is just kind of crazy to me.

527
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Like you actually have to go if you're on like fangrafts,

528
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: let's say, and you're pulling up stolen base leaders, you

529
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Speaker 2: have to remove qualified because a lot of the leaders

530
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: aren't even qualified hitters because they're not really like the

531
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: full time players. They're they're running wild to try to

532
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: add a value that you're not getting elsewhere. Major League

533
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: Baseball stolen base leader is John Birdie of the Miami Marlins,

534
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Speaker 2: who's played eighty games this season. He has thirty two bags.

535
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Speaker 2: I will say that is a super high rate of

536
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Speaker 2: stolen bases. If he played every single game, he's on

537
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: pace for you know, sixty bags, which is a lot.

538
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Speaker 2: But I mean the fact that the next most is

539
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Speaker 2: Cidric Mullens at thirty. But he's played one hundred and

540
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: thirty five games, which is, you know, fifty five more

541
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Speaker 2: ballgames than John Birdie. And he says a lot about

542
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: how the art of the stolen base has become just

543
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: you know, removed from baseball. I mean, a guy with

544
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Speaker 2: Trey Turner's speech not I only have twenty four bags,

545
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: guy with Bobby Wood's spech do not only have twenty

546
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: seven bags? And catchers are so good most starters I've

547
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: gotten so quick to the plate that I think this

548
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: kind of evens the playing field out a little bit

549
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And now I petitioned for

551
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Speaker 1: the return of the Herb Washington type, and we brought

552
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Speaker 1: up Herb Washington. Before Herb Washington was a Charlie Finley Stunt,

553
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Speaker 1: former owner of the Oakland a's herb Washington. Let's see

554
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: appeared in ninety two plus thirteen one hundred and five

555
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: games in nineteen seventy four, nineteen brutal.

556
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Speaker 2: If I remember correctly, like he his efficiency on the

557
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: bass pass was not great.

558
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was thirty one for forty eight,

559
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Speaker 1: so he was caught seventeen times. He stole thirty one bags.

560
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Speaker 2: He didn't play baseball. He was a track runner. He's

561
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Speaker 2: an Olympic track runner.

562
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Speaker 1: One hundred and five games, zero played appearances, thirty one

563
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Speaker 1: stolen bases, caught stealing seventeen times. He was an Olympic

564
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Speaker 1: track runner. So now I pitch Noah Lyles getting a

565
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: major league contract. Fastest man in the world just said,

566
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Speaker 1: I think the US record for the two hundred meter

567
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: dash at nineteen point five ish. Noah Liles. If you're

568
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: listening to this, if somebody knows no Alliles that can

569
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: send him this, let's get you into major league baseball.

570
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have time to react with this pickoff rule

571
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Speaker 1: when somebody throws over twice to try and get you.

572
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Speaker 1: Just start Just take off, man, Just start running.

573
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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. I was thinking about Tyreek just the way

574
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 2: he accelerates would be so funny as well. I want

575
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: to see Tyreek do like a lap around the bases,

576
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: just the way he would be able to cut the

577
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: corners and everything. But no, I'm excited for more stolen bases.

578
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how pitchers try to navigate this.

579
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: There's definitely gonna be a lot of strategy involved in

580
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: this as well, Like you don't want to use that

581
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: second pickoff unless you feel like you've got a pretty

582
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: good shot, because then you're giving yourself up a little bit, uh,

583
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, with that next pitch to to give that

584
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: base runner a bit of an edge. So I think

585
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Speaker 2: we'll see one pickoff more frequently than we see, you know,

586
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: two pickoffs, just for that reason alone. But that rule,

587
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think it's it's gonna have as

588
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: much of an impact one way or another, because how

589
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: often are guys really thrown over three times in an

590
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: app bad anyways? You know, I think it's more of

591
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: a minor adjustment if anything.

592
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Speaker 1: Yeah, two quick things, shift talk, which I know neither

593
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Speaker 1: of us really like to do, and then unions, which

594
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Speaker 1: I know neither of us really like to do. The

595
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: new shift rule two infielders on each side of second

596
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Speaker 1: base with at least both feet in the infield dirt. Okay, good,

597
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: here's here's the caveat. I was thinking, like if there

598
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Speaker 1: was and I brought up the example of Jeremy Paynia

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Speaker 1: and jose L Tuve like Paynya is a better defender

600
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: than Al Twovey is. I was thinking, oh, you know,

601
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: what if what if you had Payna at short for

602
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: right handed hitters and flipped them to second for left

603
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: handed hitters? That is not allowed? You designate two guys

604
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: to stand on either side of second base. I don't know,

605
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: what do you make of it?

606
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Speaker 2: It's tough, you know. I this is one that I

607
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: got more people, you know, more friends reaching out to

608
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: me that maybe aren't big time baseballfense, casual baseball, Like

609
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on this? And like shouldn't shouldn't

610
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: teams be able to defend in the best way possible

611
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Speaker 2: anyway they want and for a long time? This is

612
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Speaker 2: one that you know, Honestly, I'll be fully an open

613
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: book on this one. I still have not fully decided

614
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: how I feel about it. Ultimately, I'm pro more offense

615
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: and more balls in play. Uh and and I think

616
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 2: it's gonna support more balls in play. You look at

617
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: an Anthony though with the Yankees with the short porch

618
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: and right I think it's the perfect example. He has

619
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Speaker 2: no incentive to do anything other than pull the ball

620
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: and lift. And mean I said this going into the year.

621
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Speaker 2: I was like, watch Anthony Rizzo is gonna pull the

622
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: ball and lift more than ever And he did that

623
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Speaker 2: and it worked for him in the power department, but

624
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean it just it's turned him more into a

625
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: three true outcome guy than he's ever been in his life.

626
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: I look at that and I want to get away

627
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: from that. In certain regards, there's always gonna be players

628
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: like that, because there's players like that. We had that

629
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: back in the day as well with Adam Dunn and

630
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: other pieces other players out there. But for me, I

631
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: want to see more you know, backhanded plays and you know,

632
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: rangey plays. I don't want to see Manny Machado playing

633
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: the ball off of the wall and right field, like,

634
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: I just don't want to see that. I want to

635
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: see you know, players ranging out and making impressive plays.

636
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's going to accommodate that. You also

637
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: look at, you know, how hard it is to hit

638
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: now with with pitchers being able to throw running two

639
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: seamers or sinkers in on your hands, and people are like, oh,

640
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: just hit the ball the other way. Yeah, I'd love

641
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: to see you try to to fight ninety six the

642
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: other way in on your hands, like oh it's that easy.

643
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: Just hit it the other way, Like, it's not that easy.

644
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: And these pitchers are able to make it as hard

645
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: as possible on you. Like that side of it, I

646
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: definitely understand. And beyond that, I think the biggest thing

647
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: for me is like we've seen games that just through

648
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: the years all the time, as something you know, gets exploited,

649
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: that just becomes that just kind of takes away from

650
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: the enjoyment of the game. And I look at Shack

651
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: with the three second rule, and I think that's got

652
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: to be the best analogy here, is right. It's like

653
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: Shack could just camp under the freaking hoop all day

654
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: long and you're never getting in the paint. And that's

655
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: part of the reason why we end up seeing the

656
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: three second rule. Like I'm sure there was some pushback

657
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: on that early on, like what do you mean I

658
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: can't stand in a certain spot for a certain amount

659
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: of time on the floor, Like that's ridiculous.

660
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: See ken Bae Mutumbo is in shambles.

661
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, come on, you know what, no one doubts

662
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: an eye out it any more. It's like that's something

663
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: that we just have accepted as a rule. So I

664
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: look at Major League Baseball, I do see the side

665
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: and I totally hear anybody that's like, you should be

666
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: able to do whatever you want defensively. But I think

667
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: it's gotten to the point where it's just so out

668
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: of hand, and we have so much data and we're

669
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: able to predict these these players, you know, tendencies to

670
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: such a tee that it's just it's just ridiculous at

671
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: this point. And we've seen batting average on bows and

672
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: play go down so much year over year over a

673
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: year that who knows how far gone we would get

674
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: if we didn't do this. Now.

675
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that we did it now. I think

676
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: we're going to see better defensive plays in the infield,

677
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: which will be fun because we love slick fielding infielders

678
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: like we don't. Nico Horner is going to be amazing

679
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: to watch, our promisey, He's going to be amazing to watch.

680
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: So yeah.

681
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I guess I'm in enough on this.

682
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't have any strong thoughts on the shift, just

683
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: because I think the shift is one of the most

684
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: tired topics in baseball. Real quick on the unions, and

685
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: then we'll wrap with ventos. The big thing is Major

686
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: League Baseball said yes to minor league players joining pretty

687
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: much the MLBPA, So the MLBPA, the Players Association, will

688
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: serve as kind of the representative for minor league baseball players.

689
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: The gist is this, they have different collective bargaining agreements,

690
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: so when the Major league CBA is up, that will

691
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: have no effect on minor league salaries. That will have

692
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: no effect on that, but there will be a minor

693
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: league CBA where if they feel that, you know, the

694
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars a week for a low a guy

695
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: is not acceptable, they can negotiate that at the next CBA.

696
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: So this just allows them a chance to revisit how

697
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: that structured.

698
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: And now yeah, no, sorry, go ahead, and I mean, tokay,

699
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: yaf no, I was gonna.

700
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Say now the con is minor league players are now

701
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: in the Union. Well, major league Baseball needs major league players.

702
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: Minor league baseball. The way you get to what you

703
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: want to do, the way you accomplish your dream is

704
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: by being on the field every day and putting in

705
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: good results every day. And if minor league baseball gets

706
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: ahead of itself and even floats the idea of a strike,

707
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: I have no idea what major league baseball is going

708
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, that is the worst thing for minor

709
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: league baseball ever.

710
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about that, and I'm like, I don't

711
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: know if we'll ever get there, because honestly, it's a

712
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: valid fear. But minor league baseball and minor leaguers have

713
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: been so neglected for so long that I think even

714
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: having a seat at the table just allows them to

715
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: really be able to just improve on what they are.

716
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: I guess the best way to put it is this,

717
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: they've never really had to say in anything right, and

718
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: that has been very clear, and we talked about it

719
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: during the lockout, like, minor league should have a seat

720
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: at the table here, they should have a saying what's

721
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: going on. And part of the problem of why we

722
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: see minor leaguers underrepresented and you know, underappreciated, is because

723
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: of the fact that major leaguers have so long not

724
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: had really much incentive or much of a reason to

725
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: go to bat for them, you know when during the

726
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: CBA negotiations they're too worried about themselves, which I get,

727
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: like they climbed through the minor leagues and dealt with it,

728
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: and now they're trying to you know, fight for themselves

729
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: in you know, what we just saw during the last year,

730
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: which was a nightmare, right, so, you know, adding the

731
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: minor leagues to it definitely could add a little bit

732
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: of a wrinkle to it. But what I see here

733
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: is just minor league baseball having a voice finally, These

734
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: minor leaguers having a voice finally, And I think it's

735
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: going to be more so for smaller things like hey,

736
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: we want to see a ten percent increase in salary

737
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, Like, let's let's have our voices

738
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: heard on this, and I think major leagues, major League Baseball,

739
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: will be more receptive to that. If there is a larger,

740
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: more serious issue that really starts to to to bubble here,

741
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: that could be a concern. But at the end of

742
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: the day, these minor leaguers are trying to make it.

743
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: They have too much you know, at steak here, they

744
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: can't afford to strike like major leaguers can, and I

745
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: think that's the big difference. And just being able to

746
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: have a voice now and a say and representation, I

747
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: think is the most important thing. And just to be

748
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: able to be heard, and that's huge for minor league baseball,

749
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: and I think it's a it's a positive outcome.

750
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: There's no really way around that, one hundred percent. And

751
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: the clock just struck one. That means that NFL red

752
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: Zone is live on Sunday. So I'll let a I'll

753
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: let Arum get out, but real quick. Vento's terrible start

754
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: to the season at the minor league level. Hit a

755
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: buck sixty four the five to sixty eight ops in April,

756
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: but then in May had a ten to fifty. Oh ps,

757
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you ops by month here. Vent

758
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: To's five sixty eight, ten fifty in May, eight ninety,

759
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: in June nine forty eight, in July nine fifty eight,

760
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: August six eighties so far in September. So he had

761
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: a bad April, he was having a fine September, granted

762
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: only seven games a small sample. What can Mets fans

763
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: expect from Mark Ventos as they continue to make this

764
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: division push.

765
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the one negative will be probably some streakiness.

766
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say one naga. I'll start with like the

767
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: somewhat drawbacks and why we haven't seen him yet, and

768
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: then I'll definitely gush over him for a minute because

769
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: he's been a guy that I've been high on for

770
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: years now and I'm a big fan of his. He's

771
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: still extremely young, second round pick. You know, back in

772
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: was it twenty seventeen, so it feels like he's been

773
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: around forever, but he's still twenty two years old. He

774
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: was one of the youngest players in the draft when

775
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: he was selected, you know, out of high school in

776
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: South Florida. This is a super talented hitter. When he

777
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: was drafted, he was a shortstop. He has gotten much larger,

778
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: much more physical, and much slower. He's six' four to

779
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: something and you're not going to get great defense from

780
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: him at third or corner, outfield but you are going

781
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: to get supreme, power AND i think some of the most,

782
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: effortless effortless power you're going to see from a, young

783
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: you know player coming up right. Now he can go

784
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: foul pull to foul pull the way he backspins, baseball so.

785
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: Easily you, know he can hit it out of the

786
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: catcher's mint and go, oppo you, know off the foul

787
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: pole and right field and you're, like how did that get?

788
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: Out he's hit several where you think it's a, flyball you,

789
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: know routine flyball that ends up carrying out of the.

790
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: Yard this guy has, ridiculous ridiculous power THAT i think

791
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: is he's going to continue to tap. Into there's gonna

792
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: be some streakiness, there there's some swing and miss, there

793
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: but his approach has gotten better and better as his

794
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 2: minor league career has gone. On the power has continued

795
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: to remain more, consistent or if, anything he's tapped into

796
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: it more and more learned himself as a. Hitter and

797
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: he crushes. Lefties he has crush his lefties as of.

798
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Late AND i think he's going to fill in That

799
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: Darren rough, role hopefully That rough was supposed to fill

800
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: when they acquired, him which is THAT dh crush, lefties you,

801
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: know just provide, power and that's something that The mets

802
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: need right. Now And ventos is going to be a

803
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: good hitter for a long. Time there's a reason why

804
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: The mets did not trade him at the, deadline given

805
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: that they had some other pieces that they knew they

806
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: weren't moving. Right baby wasn't, Going alvarez wasn't. Going we

807
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: thought Maybe vanto's could be the guy that. Goes they

808
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: don't move him because of the power that he. OFFERS

809
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: i think he's going to be a really exciting bat

810
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: for a long. TIME i don't know if he's going

811
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: to make the jump right away and seamlessly, transition BUT

812
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: i think there's enough reason to believe that he can

813
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: tap into power right. AWAY i just don't know how

814
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: consistent it'll.

815
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: Be you, know out of the, gate he's going to

816
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: hit a big nuke for The. METS i, KNOW i

817
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: know he.

818
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: IS i know he. Is, YEAH i think he's going

819
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: to hit a big, nuke maybe in this stint that

820
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: he's up right. NOW i don't know how well he's

821
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: going to do over the course of his duration of

822
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: being up there this, season BUT i think he's going

823
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: to have a, big a big, moment and it might

824
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: come in his hometown In miami against The. Marlins here

825
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: we shall.

826
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: See, YEAH i THINK i called it With Tyler, naquin

827
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: LIKE i thought there was to be one or two

828
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: big moments That tyler And aquinn had in A mets

829
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: uniform and they would have turned from why the hell

830
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: do we Get tyler And aquinn? Too oh my, God

831
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: tyler And aquin's my favorite. PLAYER i think we're gonna

832
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: run into that with uh With vanos as. WELL i

833
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: think he's gonna hit a big nuke and it's gonna be.

834
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: Crazy Happy BELATED Nfl, Sunday HAPPY Nfl. Monday Let Russ,

835
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Cook let's ride And ram And peter will be with you.

836
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: Tomorrow peter AND i will be with you On. Wednesday

837
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: can any link you need in the episode? Description anything?

838
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: Else I'm i'm gonna just date myself, here like predate

839
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: myself and this might be, bad but myself on the. Record,

840
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah dolphins are beating The. Patriots, Uh i'm walking that in.

841
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: TODAY i Think Joe Judge collin plays With Matt patricia

842
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: on what the hell is That dolphins win to a solid.

843
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: Game i'm just just wanted to put myself on the record, there.

844
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: Dude i'm In i'm In mike McDaniel's Stud So i'm

845
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: a really funny.

846
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: Really that's ALL i care. About really.

847
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: Funny i'm not gonna make any bear. Prediction so that's

848
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: that it's gonna.

849
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: RAIN i can tell you that that's gonna.

850
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: Rain David, montgomery Let David. Cook all, right see you,

851
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: guys