WEBVTT - The Mystery of Coal

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Chuck and this is Stuff you Should Know. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's it right there, The Mystery of Coal.

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<v Speaker 1>You like the title I came up with. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>working title, but now I guess it's the official title.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it because I thought, well, what could be

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<v Speaker 1>the mystery of coal? And now I know it's earth science,

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<v Speaker 1>so I find it jazz metastic. Hey, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the only sciences I can really get into.

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<v Speaker 1>So so did this one suck you in? Then? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it sucked me in like a fallen branch into

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<v Speaker 1>the depths of a peat bog. Oh my gosh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>some great man. I can't wait for forty seconds from

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<v Speaker 1>now when we start talking about that part. But first

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta tell everybody we're talking about coal. The titles correct,

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<v Speaker 1>it's apt, it's accurate, and there is a mystery to

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<v Speaker 1>the coal, which we'll get to. But there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to col than just the mystery behind it. Um

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<v Speaker 1>And actually, the way that cole forms is super interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been forming for a really long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, chuck, humans have been using it for

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time. There's evidence that the um, the

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<v Speaker 1>people who inhabited China all the way back years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we're burning coal that they found around the surface as

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<v Speaker 1>a fuel, which is pretty that's right. They were tailgating, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>burning cole cooking up meat. Oh, I got you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were a big time. They had um wooden pickup trucks,

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<v Speaker 1>the cook out of the back. Remember the stainless steel

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<v Speaker 1>pickup trucks at the Atlanta Olympics. I have still never

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<v Speaker 1>seen video of that. You're you just talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>like it was some embarrassing Yeah, yeah, for sure, now

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely have. Anyway, none of that has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with wouldn't pickup trucks, is what we're here for. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to do with coal. So let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>about years ago we started taking coal from the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and burning it, and on a very small scale, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty clever thing to do. Unfortunately, as we'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>we've really kind of taken that to the mp degree

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<v Speaker 1>starting in the Industrial Revolution, and it poses a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of problems for the atmosphere that we'll talk about. But UM,

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<v Speaker 1>more to the point because it takes so long to

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<v Speaker 1>form coal, the rate that we're burning it at far

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<v Speaker 1>outpaces the rate that it's being made at um, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes coal a non renewable resource, which we kicked off

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. But now finally, Chuck, we've arrived to that

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<v Speaker 1>thing you foreshadowed on, and that's how coal is made.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to have a grasp on how

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<v Speaker 1>long it takes to make coal, we're going to explain

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<v Speaker 1>it step by step. That's right. And I referenced Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Boggs at the beginning, and people might have thought, what

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<v Speaker 1>in the world is he even talking about with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and why is Josh so excited? Chuck reference that, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's the answer. Uh, Pete is where cold begins. And

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<v Speaker 1>Pete is like, you know, sort of loose layers of

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of plant and mineral gobbledygook that accumulates in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest in the swampy areas called Pete swamps. You

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<v Speaker 1>might call them bogs or myers, depending on where you

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<v Speaker 1>live in the world. But these are wet lands that

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<v Speaker 1>have really great conditions to swallow up a fallen branch

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<v Speaker 1>or a plant or something like that, or a dead

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<v Speaker 1>animal and have it slowly sink down to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of protect it from not completely from erosion,

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<v Speaker 1>but from erosion that would happen if it was on land, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like if you so, the reason why is protected

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<v Speaker 1>from that from de camp um you know, like how

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<v Speaker 1>a body decays or um uh like on the body

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<v Speaker 1>farm at University of Tennessee, or if um you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a wild animal in the forest or a mouse

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<v Speaker 1>that got into your attic or a plant that fell

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<v Speaker 1>over in your backyard. People, that stuff decomposes, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really decompose in the swamp because a swamp by

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<v Speaker 1>definition has um basically stagnant water. Not much goes on

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<v Speaker 1>in a swamp. Strangely enough, everything just kind of very

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<v Speaker 1>slow motion biologically and geologically speaking. So that water, because

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<v Speaker 1>it lacks oxygen, it's not a really great place for

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<v Speaker 1>the microbes that carry out decomposition on planet Earth to

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<v Speaker 1>live because they need oxygen to carry out those functions

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<v Speaker 1>to eat things and decompose them. And so the swamp water,

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<v Speaker 1>being stagnant and oxygen poor, acts basically as a preservative

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<v Speaker 1>for the stuff that lived along the swamp and has

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<v Speaker 1>now died and fallen into the swamp and settled on

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom, creating what's lovingly known as muck. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And the really important part here. You might be saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, a bunch of stuff falls to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of swamp and kind of really really slowly decomposes, if

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<v Speaker 1>at all. The really important part here, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>how we get to coal, which ultimately leads to why

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<v Speaker 1>we have problems with climate change, is that carbon is

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<v Speaker 1>locked down in place in the bottom of that swamp

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<v Speaker 1>with that muck. It's just it's just sitting there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, if it was on dry land and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a dead like like keep saying, dead dear

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<v Speaker 1>dead mouse, sure, uh, it would decompose regularly and there

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<v Speaker 1>would be an exchange of carbon happening pretty readily. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the case. At the bottom of a peat bog,

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<v Speaker 1>that carbon is staying locked in and that that carbon

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<v Speaker 1>will eventually become the energy that we need or burn

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<v Speaker 1>as coal precisely, so there's some decomposition that happens. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if you look at swampmuck that eventually becomes

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<v Speaker 1>pete that eventually becomes coal, that swampmuck, you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>make out like a fish or a tree limb or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that after a while. So there is some decomposition.

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<v Speaker 1>But the upshot of it is it doesn't fully decomposed

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<v Speaker 1>like it would if microbes got onto it on land,

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<v Speaker 1>like you were saying, And that decomposition that microbes carry

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<v Speaker 1>out it unlocks all those chemical bonds that store chemical energy.

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<v Speaker 1>It breaks up all of those um constituent elements and

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<v Speaker 1>compounds that that make up those bonds um and then

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<v Speaker 1>it spreads them out so that other plants can come

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<v Speaker 1>along and use them. That doesn't happen in swampmuck. It

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<v Speaker 1>just gets trapped frozen in time basically to a certain

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<v Speaker 1>part of decomposition. And you still say, so, what, how

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<v Speaker 1>does this make any sense? I'm reeling from all of

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<v Speaker 1>this information. We'll just settle down because we're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>the next most important part, and that is that if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at a swamp, say the Okay Finoki or

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<v Speaker 1>swamps in Indonesia, if you back far enough, you would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be looking at something much deeper and more watery,

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<v Speaker 1>like a pond or a lake. And for those ponds

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<v Speaker 1>and lakes end up filling in over time, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, they start at the banks like you

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<v Speaker 1>would think, and stuff drops in in the shallow areas

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<v Speaker 1>and starts accumulating, and that just and we're talking over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of a long period of time. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna turn a lake into a swamp inside

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple hundred years. Just try it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried, trust me, it's not working. But that just

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<v Speaker 1>expands further and further towards the middle. Eventually that lake

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<v Speaker 1>does turn into a swamp. Uh. And eventually that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to turn into dry land. But that muck, that deposit,

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<v Speaker 1>and that muck remains there, but it's now got earth

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<v Speaker 1>on top of it, like you know, dry earth, and

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a lot of compression. That's a lot of weight,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a lot of soil. And depending on and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to this in a second, but depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how deep you are and how much weight and how

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<v Speaker 1>much pressure or uh is on top of you as muck,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to turn it into different things, uh, different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of coal. Yeah, definitely, so um that pressure that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, that's like the key ingredient and transforming muck

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<v Speaker 1>to Pete to Cole and talked a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>this in the Diamonds episode. I think we had to

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<v Speaker 1>have definitely, because eventually you get beyond Cole to graphite

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<v Speaker 1>and then ostensibly from graphite onto diamonds, heat and pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly, Um, and that that's so so Diamonds I

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<v Speaker 1>guess start out as swamp muck too, and Cole is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the the middle part of that long,

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<v Speaker 1>lengthy process from muck to diamond basically. Um. But the

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<v Speaker 1>album title, by the way, which what was it from

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<v Speaker 1>muck to Diamond? Oh? Nice? That is good. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a that's like if your bands is really

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<v Speaker 1>terrible at first but then just gets better and better,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your greatest hits album title. Or if you're Neil

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<v Speaker 1>Diamond and you really want to be on the nose.

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<v Speaker 1>But is there a muck? Who know? Is there like

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<v Speaker 1>a muck in the music world that he could have

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<v Speaker 1>been doing? I don't think so, because he started out

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<v Speaker 1>because that was in another episode as a writer at

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<v Speaker 1>the the Brill building there for what was it called

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<v Speaker 1>tim pan Alley tim pan Alley, Neil Diamond died. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a Timpanaley. Guys, he was never he was never mucked.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is he? Like, man, I don't remember that

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<v Speaker 1>little faces on its way to true diamond. He is,

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<v Speaker 1>he's graphified right now. Yeah, so sorry, Neil diamond. So

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<v Speaker 1>um as the as more and more earth just gets

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<v Speaker 1>deposited through the processes of erosion and deposition, and like

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<v Speaker 1>rivers springing up and like flood their banks and spread

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<v Speaker 1>out stuff, like more and more earth like builds up

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<v Speaker 1>over that deposit of swamp muck that got laid down

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<v Speaker 1>over time, and that as more and more builds up

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<v Speaker 1>a above it, there's more and more weight and pressure

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<v Speaker 1>pushing down and compressing and condensing it. And eventually that

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<v Speaker 1>pete turns into coal. But you can't just say that

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<v Speaker 1>coal is like really old pete because the pressure is

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<v Speaker 1>so tremendous and the heat it's kind of like it

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<v Speaker 1>cooks um it cooks the pete into coal. So the

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<v Speaker 1>heat and the pressure actually make it go through like

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<v Speaker 1>a bio geochemical transformation and it becomes a sedimentary rock,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's not at all pete. It's it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be pete, but now it's something totally different. It's undergone

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<v Speaker 1>a metamorphosis, which is pretty neat. Yeah, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>awesome all that moisture is just squeezed out. All the

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<v Speaker 1>impurities are squeezed out, and you're left, but you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still left with those chemical bonds and there this

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<v Speaker 1>this is a thing, and it's called qualification, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no better titled thing in earth sciences, I think

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<v Speaker 1>than qualification and and very straightforward the process of turning

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<v Speaker 1>muck to Pete's pete ification. Yeah, I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>just addification onto every word to make it really easy

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. Neil diamondification, yeah, podcastification. Yeah, that's great. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we just became an earth science Should we take a break, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's and then we'll come back and talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>different types of coal. How about that sounds great? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. We promised talk of different types of coal.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh if when you last left us, pete has been

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<v Speaker 1>squeezed out underground and we're talking, I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>we said about two and a half to six in

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter miles beneath the earth. It's a long way down.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes like that much compression to really start to

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<v Speaker 1>turn pete into into coal. Right, So don't go uh

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<v Speaker 1>digging a tin foot deep hole, throw some sediment in

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<v Speaker 1>there and expect anything to happen, right Because also I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if we said this or not, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>this process that we're talking about takes place over millions

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<v Speaker 1>to hundreds of millions of years, depending on the situation

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<v Speaker 1>in conditions. That's right, a long long time. And so

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<v Speaker 1>there are a few different things that this coal can

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<v Speaker 1>turn into, or the peat can turn into a few

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<v Speaker 1>types of coal. The first one is lignite. Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>is crumbly still at this point, and it's not black yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of brownish and you can still sort of

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<v Speaker 1>see parts of the original plant material when it's lignite.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after that is bituminous coal UM. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>coal that most people are familiar with. It's far and

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<v Speaker 1>away the most widely used coal most like most widely

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<v Speaker 1>mind coal. There's just a lot of it on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just um coal that's been cooking and and

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<v Speaker 1>pressed longer than lignite. Soft though, but it's not soft

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<v Speaker 1>like to the touch, you know, it's just compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the next step anthracite, it's soft. So yeah, it's called

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<v Speaker 1>soft coal. And then yeah, the next step after that

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<v Speaker 1>coal is left alone for much much longer um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's again you've you've added some sort of heat source.

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<v Speaker 1>It's either that um that original deposit of swamp muck

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<v Speaker 1>has been moving pushed down further and further closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's core so that it's just warmer there than

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<v Speaker 1>it is towards the surface, or it happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>deposited near like um volcanic activity, so there's that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of heat. So you've got some heat. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>in an oven and the pressure. After a long enough time,

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<v Speaker 1>you eventually come up with anthracite. And anthracite is like

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<v Speaker 1>the money coal, right, and that is officially hard coal. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't stop there. I think you mentioned something about

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<v Speaker 1>neil diamond turning into graphite. That is sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>final thing that it can become. And you might think, oh, graphite,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds great, like that must be that must be

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<v Speaker 1>the slowest burning, best coal on the planet. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>really not true because graphite that their bonds, the energy bonds,

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<v Speaker 1>are so strong that it takes a lot of energy

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<v Speaker 1>to break those up. So you know, like regular soft coal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think even anthracite, you can ignite it without

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of energy. But it's it's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy to ignite graphite. Yeah, and the

0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.880
<v Speaker 1>anthracite is sweet, sweet stuff. It doesn't take much energy

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<v Speaker 1>to ignite. It has a low flame, it's um low smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just beautiful stuff. It's just much much rare than

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<v Speaker 1>the bitchamus bituminous coal that we know, the bitamus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not nobody likes it, no, so um chuck, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should also mention at this point, um, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's about here where I was like, wait, what about oil?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it turns out that oil and coal undergo

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<v Speaker 1>virtually the same processes. It's just the location of where

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<v Speaker 1>they started out and then the source material that really

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<v Speaker 1>makes them differ. So, coal, as we've seen, is made

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<v Speaker 1>in swampy areas um from land based plants, and oil

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<v Speaker 1>is just made in marine areas from sea based life basically. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really remarkable. How and I remember when we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about like where oil comes from. It's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a mind blowing thing to understand. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>coal kind of completes the picture for me at least,

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<v Speaker 1>depends on where it is right or the or how

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<v Speaker 1>it started to Well, yeah, I mean that's where it

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<v Speaker 1>was when it started. I got you, I got you,

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<v Speaker 1>like Tin ban Alley, poor Neil Diamond. So um, the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling he would make an appearance. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because you know we're talking graphite. Once you

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<v Speaker 1>talk fight, your half a skip away from talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Diamond, because everyone knows he has gold records, platinum records,

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole wall full of graphite. That's right. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just us who understands cole. Like, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>basically reporting what science has figured out. Science has a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty great understanding of how coal forms, the processes

0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it overgoes all that, so like that you needed to

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<v Speaker 1>point that out. So um, we understand coal enough that

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<v Speaker 1>we can actually even go back and say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this seem actually probably came here, and we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>little yarn. We can tell you guys about where one load,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, when major cole seem came from. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing started all the way back in the

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<v Speaker 1>Carboniferous period, which was really wet and really really warm. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the average global temperature for the first half

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<v Speaker 1>of the Carboniferous Carboniferous period it was like sixty degrees fahrenheit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is twenty celsius. Okay, that doesn't sound very warm,

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<v Speaker 1>but consider that one of the I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the second hottest year on record, the global temperature

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<v Speaker 1>was fifty eight point seven six degrees fahrenheights. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good ten degrees fahrenheight warmer on average. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot warmer for a global temperature. It is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard to wrap your head around a global temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that's that's everything, right, not just where you live,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because when I first saw these numbers, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it's could that be correct? But yeah, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of when you think of global averages, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different ballgame, yeah, because I mean you're you're not

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<v Speaker 1>just taking the equator into into um account. You're also

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<v Speaker 1>taking the poles into account. You're mixing it all together,

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<v Speaker 1>carrying the one. A bell goes off when you finally

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<v Speaker 1>reach the answer, and there you go. That's right. And

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of swamps back in those days, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, there were a lot of them were around

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<v Speaker 1>where the equator is, so it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>especially hot there. And one in particular near the equator

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<v Speaker 1>or was straddling. And I know we've talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about tectonic plates and mirriad episodes, including the volcanoes. One

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>but one of them straddled a plate boundary right where

0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple of these plates met. Uh, And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we should say where it is. Uh, present day Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>Asia and North America was called Laurasia, and then Gondwana,

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<v Speaker 1>which is present day Africa, South America, Antarctica, Australia, and India.

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And these guys started banging up against each other as

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<v Speaker 1>plates do when they when they meet and say hello.

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<v Speaker 1>And mountain ranges are formed. And we know this is

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<v Speaker 1>how mountain ranges are formed. But this particular mountain range

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<v Speaker 1>was formed and then kept moving and kept moving until

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<v Speaker 1>it eventually became the Appalachian Mountains. And so as these

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<v Speaker 1>these massive supercontinents collided with one another and pushed it

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<v Speaker 1>into one another and created this mountain range. Um, as

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<v Speaker 1>the the land that made the mountains went up, the

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<v Speaker 1>land on either side of those mountains bowed down, which

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<v Speaker 1>was swampy if you remember. Yes, And that's really important

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<v Speaker 1>because when that that process took place, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like they just ran into each other like a car

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<v Speaker 1>crash or anything. Took place over a really long time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was enough that it was it was dropping

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<v Speaker 1>huge amounts of swamp muck and vegetation deep below the

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<v Speaker 1>earth at a much faster rate than the succession of

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<v Speaker 1>a lake to a pond to a swamp to dry

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<v Speaker 1>land happened. So it was dropping a bunch of swamp

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<v Speaker 1>muck down on either side of it. And that as

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<v Speaker 1>that mountain rage moved forward and settled in the northeastern

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<v Speaker 1>United States and southern southern part of Canada, it took

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<v Speaker 1>those deposits with them, and then it baked and cooked

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of hundred million years. And now you

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<v Speaker 1>have the coal seams up in the Appalachians right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And this is no mystery, like it makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. We know why a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>coal was formed. Then it was the first part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Carboniferous period, which is called of the Mississippian epoch.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And like you said, it was really warm and

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<v Speaker 1>sea levels were a lot higher than they are now,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the land was underwater. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sea, a lot of marine environment environments

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<v Speaker 1>where oil would form and this was at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pennsylvania epop epoch came next, and this is when

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature is cooled down, and this was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the latter half of the Carboniferous period. That seawater is

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<v Speaker 1>locked up in the ice. Toward the poles, the seawater retreats,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where you got those big swamps, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, the Pennsylvanian epoch was when uh,

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<v Speaker 1>basically there was a huge spike in what would become coal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it makes total sense, and we understand why a

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<v Speaker 1>huge deposition of the word world's coal came from this

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<v Speaker 1>particular epoch of the Carboniferous period, because before that everything

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<v Speaker 1>was too much underwater for there would be swamps, and

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<v Speaker 1>you need swamps to create coal, right. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a mystery and that shortly after the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pennsylvania period of or epoch of the Carboniferous period,

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<v Speaker 1>that that deposition of cold just drops off suddenly. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like there's just one slice of of Earth's

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<v Speaker 1>natural geological history where most of the coal that we

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<v Speaker 1>find in the entire world was created. There's some before that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some still going on today. Coal still being made.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bulk of it, the vast majority, happened during

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<v Speaker 1>this and why why it started then, no mystery why

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<v Speaker 1>it stopped around then? That has been a long standing mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>And here is of course, where we get to the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery of coal. Uh, that's right. And to explain the mystery,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we gotta get to sort of the second

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<v Speaker 1>part of why there was so much coal, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was due to the giant plants all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>that we're happening happening during the Pennsylvanian epoch. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of new plant diversity and they were

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<v Speaker 1>really really big plants. They sucked up a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO two in the atmosphere, admitted a lot of oxygen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that made the plants grow biggie biggie big, and

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 1>those big, big plants fell over into these swamps. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this that's sort of part two of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a lot of material all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot bigger material, h then you can eventually

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<v Speaker 1>get more coal. So we know all this stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all well and good, but scientists started to look

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<v Speaker 1>around again and say, like we need to try and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out and I guess you know, it's an understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened in the past so we can understand

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<v Speaker 1>what may happen in the future. It's a meta narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a meta narrative. Uh. And so to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>we to the mystery. We have to explain what lignant is, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the one of the reasons all those

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<v Speaker 1>plants were allowed to get so huge wasn't just that

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<v Speaker 1>they sucked up all the CEO two. It's that apparently

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<v Speaker 1>around this time, lignan appeared on Earth, and lignant is

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<v Speaker 1>what gives plants cell walls, their sturdiness, um, their heartiness,

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>UM makes it difficult for them to break down after um,

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<v Speaker 1>after they die, after they fall over and hit the

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.920
<v Speaker 1>swamp floor. And so they said, okay, lagnan came around

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<v Speaker 1>around then. Maybe the reason why there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>coal being laid down during that period and then it

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:26.199
<v Speaker 1>tapered off is because lignin showed up before anything that

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<v Speaker 1>could break down. Lignant appeared on Earth, and then once

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:34.919
<v Speaker 1>that stuff came along, UM, the deposition of coal dropped

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<v Speaker 1>off dramatically. And that's what's called the white rock appearance

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>theory of where our coal came from her wind. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds so boring too, you know, the regular

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>person on the street. But if you're a scientists, well

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you think you don't You think it sounds pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>White rock theory, Yeah, I think that sounds amazingly interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as feel like it's the theory title that only

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>an Earth scientists would love. But you're also in Earth science, wonk.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>So of course you're gonna gonna turn your crank, you

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, I guess my grank. It's spending

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<v Speaker 1>a million miles right now. So they had this theory

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and they started looking back and the U. S. Department

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of Energy said, and this was in twelve. They came

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 1>out with the theory and said, hey, I bet you

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>anything there was this. There was this new kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fungus that came on the scene that could take care

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 1>of lignant like nothing else before it could take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, I bet you dollars to donuts that

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<v Speaker 1>this made an appearance right about that same time. And

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>they went back and checked and they were right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They analyzed the genomes of a ton of different fungi

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>from a class of fun guy called wood decay fun Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>which really lives up to its name. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the few things on Earth that is

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>capable of breaking down lignan. But boy can't. Like if

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen a bunch a weird shingle like mushrooms

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<v Speaker 1>growing out the side of a fallen tree in the woods, yeah,

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>that's the type of wood decay fun Guy. And if

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you've ever picked up a piece of wood and it's

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>just crumbled in your hands, that was because of the

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>fun Guy, you can thank you for that dry rock.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're really good at it. But they're doing that today.

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<v Speaker 1>And they came along at some point in time. And

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<v Speaker 1>when they analyzed the genes of one kind a white

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>rot fungi, which is a mushroom bearing fungus um, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I think this actually came along towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the Carboniferous period beginning of the Permian period,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is probably the reason why all of that

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>cold deposition suddenly dropped off all of a sudden, right,

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 1>because now you have a situation where instead of dropping

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<v Speaker 1>off falling into a swamp, largely decomposed and sitting there forever,

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you've got it falling down, and you know, the funk

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>is doing its thing, just like we see more of today. Yeah,

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>it jumped on it like the bunny from Monty Python

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>and the Holy Grail. That's what that's how they pounce. Uh.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Is this a good time for a break? I guess so.

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think we need to throw a little cliffhanger

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.239
<v Speaker 1>in their chuck, because there's a lot of scientists out

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>there to say, not so fast. You can take your

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>white rock theory and shove it, because I'm not convinced.

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great cliffhanger. Thank you, all right,

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. Okay. So some scientists have made

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the white rock theorists cry secretly in the bathroom atwork,

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>not openly, but they did cry because they weren't very

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>kind about it. They weren't. It was really mean. But

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>um they did make some really good points, and one

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>of them is that you know, we're not entirely certain.

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe white rock ancestors showed up around the end of

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the carboniferous period. It's possible, but that's not to say

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that there's nothing that could break down lignant that existed

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>before that. So maybe there was something already and you

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>can actually see evidence of it from fossilized plant material

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that are partially decayed. Um, how would they have been

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at all decayed if there wasn't anything that could break

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>down lignan before white rock came along. Yeah, so something

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>was breaking stuff down. Uh, this may have sped it

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>up or whatever, but something was already happening, and it appears,

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>and I might let me know if I have the

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>wrong take on this, but it appears what they're saying

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>as an alternate theory is maybe there was not a

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>big drop off more so than there was just a

0:27:56.160 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>weird anomalous spike because of these tectonic lights crashing together

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden it happened to happen where

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>all this swamp Plan was and that just really sped

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 1>things up. So what we saw then was, uh, like

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing today maybe is more in the order

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of just kind of how it normally is. And there

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>was just a big spike because there was a big

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>spike because of these tectonic plates happening and all of

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, this huge deposits of stuff and the Swamplan

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>being buried underground. Yeah, like that's that's precisely right. That

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that we've been looking at it the wrong way. It's

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not like that was the normal process of coal making.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>It just so happened that there was this period of

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>time in Earth's history where the conditions were perfectly right

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to make a bunch of coal all at once, and

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that window eventually closed and the continents broke up and

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>they took their coal seams with them around the world.

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>This see, this is the stuff that really fascinates me

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>about Earth sciences is sort of the sliding doors thing, Like,

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>had that not happened, we would not have had coal

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>on the order that we have today at all, And

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>like what what would how would that have changed the world,

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>And how would that have changed the Industrial revolution? Or

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe prevented the Industrial Revolution from happening, because I guess

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>we'd would still be burning would I guess who knows

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>we'd be we would have figured out how to burn diamonds. Maybe. Yeah.

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just really interesting that this, you know, tectonic plates

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>millions and millions of years ago, uh, ends up affecting

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like well as we'll see the Earth's climate today, but

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>how we get around in the world, and like the

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>energy we consume and not just tectonic plates. But the

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>happenstance that there was the appearance of lignant which allowed

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff, to all these plants to diversify

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and explode in size, and that fascinating and that yeah,

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it is. It took all these different little factors to

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>make the coal that we see today so abundant. Because yeah,

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>if that hadn't happened, if we didn't have these abundant deposits, um,

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>who yeah, who knows where we would be or what

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>we would be doing for for energy. And and that

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>is the thing, because we are definitely using a lot

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>of coal for energy and as a result, we're, um, well,

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>we're wrecking the planet. There's really no other way to

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>put it. It's definitely not just because of coal, but

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>coal has definitely been a huge culprit because we've been

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>using it for so long. Again it powered the industrial revolution, um.

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>And then also because it is just such a dirty

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>energy source. It is. Uh. But here's the thing, when

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>used as an energy source, as a dirty energy source,

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>if that coal were uh, we're not extracted and it

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>just you know that the plant matter fell into the

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>swamp and and it and it decomposed very slowly down

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>there and eventually became uh, you know the three stages

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of coal, or I guess the four stages of coal.

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It would just stay that CEO two would stay locked

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>down in there. Yes, it's uh, it actually acts as

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a sequest to rower I guess, to keep that carbon

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>locked underground where it would have stayed had it not

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>been for us. Yeah, so that makes it a carbon sink.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Um is a sequester. Reminds me of that kids in

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the hall eradicate toor um So, but being a carbon sink,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that makes it a really major part of the carbon cycle,

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>which is the shuffling of carbon throughout the Earth, into

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the oceans, into the atmosphere, and that actually acts as

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Earth's thermostat because, like we were talking about, when all

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>those plants came along in the Mississippian epoch of the

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Carboniferous period, they the more and more plants sucked more

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and more carbon dioxide out of the air, which actually

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>cool global temperatures. Right, So, less carbon in the atmosphere

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>equals lower lower temperatures. More carbon in the atmosphere equals

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>higher temperatures, and so over time is that carbon moves

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>slowly from atmosphere into rock and then released again into

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere. That just keeps temperatures stable generally globally within

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a range. Um and cole plays a big part of that.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But we have radically accelerated the pace of release of

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that carbon from those the carbon sink, that is coal

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>back into the atmosphere by digging it up and burning

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it and not just um, not just speeding it up

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>by by by um, you know, setting it on fire

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>rather than letting it a road naturally over time, but

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>also just the massive amounts that we burn have had

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>a terrible effect. Well yeah, I mean you make a

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>good point. You know, this coal, like an earthquake might

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>push this coal seum above ground eventually and that exposes

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it to the atmosphere, but it's still going to be

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>releasing that CEO two very slowly because it's not on fire.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Then the point you made was like, there may be

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>an unlucky thing, like you know, lightning might hit it

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and light it on fire or something like that, but

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>save that or or some human coming along and doing it,

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>it is going to be a really slow sort of

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>natural process, and you're not gonna see these big spikes

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of c O two being released. Yeah, so a good um,

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a good reference point of references. Volcanoes are like the

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>biggest emitter of carbon from the Earth back into the atmosphere.

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>They it literally melts rock that contains carbon, including coal,

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and shoots that that out. Is like volcanic emissions back

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>into the atmosphere. On a given year, volcanic activity releases

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>between a hundred and thirty and three eighty million metric

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>tons of carbon dioxide. On a given year, humans release

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty billion metric tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and coal is a big, big part of that,

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>um and it just kind of gives you an idea

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of like just how lopsided things are becoming. So hence

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>we reached that point where global warming even though it's

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>hot or it's cold, and there's freak weather and weird weather,

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, what does global warming even mean? We're

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>contributing to global warming by releasing more carbon dioxide into

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere, which warms the atmosphere, warms the surface of

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the oceans, which leads ocean a cidification to sea levels rise,

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and a whole cascade of really unpleasant stuff is happening

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and is about to happen that we're all going to

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>have to adapt to and get used to. Yeah, I

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>think we've It's interesting, I don't we've never done one

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>solely on climate change, have we? I think we have? Oh,

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>have we? I believe we have maybe global warming itself.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, but I feel like we have done

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>because I just I kind of thought that we had

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>covered it pretty fully in bits and chunks and a

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of different episodes, which really sort of bells very

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:57.720
<v Speaker 1>clearly out that you know, there are so many reasons

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and so much there's so much history to it, Like

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess we probably did cover it in

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>one episode, but I just the the tendrils of climate

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>change are so far reaching, Like it's not it's not

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a surprise that it's made appearances and like dozens of

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.439
<v Speaker 1>our episodes. But I think that's one of the things

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I like about our job is like, you know, there's

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows that, like CEO two contributes to climate change,

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>but you and I have the opportunity to like kind

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of take it slow and slow things down and explain

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it in a little more detail, you know, so that

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>people who listen to us can can be like, oh, yes,

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>that's true. And I know why, you know. I think

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that's it's very rewarding job that we have, Chuck, it is.

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 1>We're lucky, dudes, We are lucky. Um, you got anything else?

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else. This is a fun one, kind

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of short and sweet but dense like coal. That's right. Uh, Well,

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>if you want to know more about Cole, there's a

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff to read, a lot of stuff, surprising

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>amount of stuff on coal out there. Um, and it's

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun. Uh. And since I said it's kind

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>of fun, that means it's time for a listener mail.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this from an assie friend of ours. Hey,

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>gent's sending a hello all the way from Australia Land.

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Like many of your listeners, I never really had a

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>reason to write in other than to thank you guys,

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>until the other day. That is. Recently, In one of

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>your new new episodes, Josh made a point to clear

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>any possible confusion about the way people should interpret the

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>title of the show. He explained that he was unsure

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>whether people should be or would be saying it and

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>stuff you should already know or cool stuff we think

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>you should know. It's funny you're just kinda talking about that. Uh.

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>And with that out loud brain fart of an f overthought,

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I finally had my reason to get in touch. It's

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>like you were speaking to me and I didn't even

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>know it. Uh. And here goes the explanation. Okay, growing

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>up in a home with a single mom and a

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>protective one, Uh, there are a lot of very basic

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>yet potentially dangerous things that I was not allowed to

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 1>do or even learn how to do. The logic being

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>if I didn't know, I wouldn't try it and I

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't get hurt. Uh. This was just so so great

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>until I was an adult out in the real world

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>with no idea how to use a can opener. So

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>now there's me searching for a cool new podcast to

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>listen to and I see one called Stuff You Should Know,

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and I swear to Steve Irwin, my first thought was,

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>bloody hell, they might be able to teach me how

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to use a can opener. Of course, instead, what I

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>found was an absolute beheamoth of a discography with more

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>amazing stories, topics and jokes and I could ever have

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>wished to hear about or even even if I look

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to be a hundred. Uh now listen to all the

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 1>episodes and can't wait for the new ones through the week.

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't really need to be a listener mail. The

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>fact that it seems you guys genuinely read these is

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>amazing enough to me. I hope you guys and your

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 1>families are well and staying safe. Keep it up, you

0:37:54.400 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>bloody effing legends. Cheers. That is from Jackson and can Burra, Australia.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Nice thanks Jack Cambarra, Canberra, Canberra. All right, um, I

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>really brushed up before our Australian Yeah, that was a

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>great email, Jackson, like one of the one of the

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>better ones we've ever gotten, So thank you very much

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>for that. Um, I think practice makes perfect with a

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>with a can opener, Okay, I just need to close

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that circle. Yeah, and I don't think I could. I

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>could explain it. I'm thinking of it and I don't

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>think I can, so just give it some Yeah, you mean,

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I have one that goes on the top and it

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it actually like breaks the seal between the top of

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the can and the actual can. And I it took

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>me several times. I think I actually went and looked

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>up online how to use that one. Because I'm like,

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>it cuts around the side and takes the whole lit off. Yes, yeah, yeah,

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I've seen those. Those are good. Yeah, I've seen him too.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never tried to use one before, and it's not intuitive,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess you're Yeah. My advice, Jackson is to

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<v Speaker 1>just go look up a couple of how to videos

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet and they will explain how can openers work?

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<v Speaker 1>And that means by proxy, I've just explained how can

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<v Speaker 1>openers work? Or by one of those great old school

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<v Speaker 1>seventies p green electric cannon putters and set it on

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<v Speaker 1>your counter. Those are awesome. Yeah, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about home defense, just like, keep a couple of those

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<v Speaker 1>lids laying around. You can throw them like throwing stars

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<v Speaker 1>at in true ninja stars. And is there anything in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies that wasn't dangerous? I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't either remember the strollers back then? Good lord? Sure well,

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<v Speaker 1>we could go on like this forever, but I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear John Hodgman rolling over in his grave and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not even dead yet. He'd pre rolls though, just to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get the practice in right. So if you

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