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Speaker 3: You're listening to Pot of Rebellion Taylor Gray, Ezra Bridger

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Speaker 5: I'm Tesakar. I am the voice of Sabine Run Specter five,

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Speaker 1: Have What's up everybody. It's Vanessa Marshall, the voice of

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Speaker 4: Everything we're gonna be okay. I'm generally brody. Everybody your

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Speaker 4: together as we're about to go over the Siege of

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Speaker 4: Lethal part two, which is season two, episode two of

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Speaker 4: Star Wars Rebels. So one, how's everybody doing? Clearly we're

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Speaker 4: doing great. Everything so good, very normal. Everyone's great, awesome, awesome. Well,

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Speaker 1: Now, please all right?

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Speaker 4: Season two, Episode two, The Siege Lethal Part two, original

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Speaker 4: Once it Again, we pick up right where Part one

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Speaker 5: But even if they haven't, Like, you know who Darth

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Speaker 5: I think it's probably silly that I still have pinch

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Speaker 5: But I feel like like I use my dad as

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Speaker 4: You need you should trademark that to you because that

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Speaker 4: Am I Okay, it's all all the time. No, that's

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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, yeah, you want Vader, Let's let's figure

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Speaker 1: So here I'll show you. It's a hairdresser's chair that

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Speaker 5: You know, I have a pop quiz hot shots.

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Speaker 8: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: There's a movie reference for you. John. You're much better

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Speaker 5: That's great. Okay, you guys, Lando's Droid.

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Speaker 4: You know, why does sound like alent tutic? I wish

436
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 4: everything sound like alent tutic really when when you break

437
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 4: it down? So, I don't know, it's something that I

438
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 4: was thinking about, like, oh, what determines what a droid's

439
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 4: voice is going to be? Is that just something programmed?

440
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 4: Like oh I want to sound like this? Like do

441
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 4: you put in prompts like it's chat GPT but then

442
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: it programs it into the droid. I don't know, like

443
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 4: it's a It's not something I never thought about until

444
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 4: when I watched this episode.

445
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 3: You know, we're going back to a question I asked

446
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 3: early on, why do they not speak right? I mean,

447
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: I'm not not opening this again, but that we understand.

448
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 8: Yeah.

449
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 5: In this episode, Chopper says something. It's this episode of

450
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 5: the last episode. I think it's this episode. Chopper says something,

451
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 5: and I tell you what he said, and then you

452
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 5: ask a question as if you I'm like, do you

453
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 5: understand Chopper or don't you understand Chopper? Because I obviously,

454
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 5: I mean Sabine obviously understands Chopper. Haarah understands Chopper. Do

455
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 5: you or don't you? Because it's like you, it's like,

456
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you have no idea and you

457
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 5: need someone to translate. And I'm like, but wait a minute,

458
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: he's you guys interact, You guys communicate, So why do

459
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 5: you sometimes know and sometimes have to be told? It's

460
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 5: very confusing.

461
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Speaker 4: I'm going to go back to something. Sorry I was

462
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 4: going to say.

463
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 5: Also, it's kind of like I wonder, you know, when

464
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 5: you're talking about the droid settings and do you choose

465
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 5: or whatever. It's like, you know on your GPS, you

466
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 5: can like I just changed my GPS to a lovely

467
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 5: South African man. Yeah, that guy's awesome and he's directions.

468
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 5: Oh I wish no it's not. But that's apple. If

469
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 5: you're listening, get Trevor no to do that.

470
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: Because they do, Like John Cena is a boy that

471
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: you can get certain people John maybe ways or something

472
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: like that.

473
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 5: Oh well mine is just some like ambigorous South African

474
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 5: man with a Romanice accent. So I wonder if when

475
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 5: you get a droid you go like I would like

476
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 5: him to sound or heard a sound.

477
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: Oh?

478
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 5: Also, why are droids always male?

479
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: That was the question I was gonna ask last episode. Yeah,

480
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: or are they male? Is it like just a non binary?

481
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: Is it not on the spectrum of Okay?

482
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 5: Well, why are they always voiced by men? That's a question.

483
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 5: Maybe not for JC.

484
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: Maybe that is a.

485
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: Very Are there any Are there any droids voiced by women?

486
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: I think there are medical droids. If I'm not an.

487
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 4: Episode three, I remember an episode three, the one that

488
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 4: delivers Luke and Lea. Yeah, yeah, there's a whole I'm

489
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: not going to go theroid.

490
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that this isroid.

491
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 5: That's another episode. Well, all right, let's put a pin

492
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 5: in that.

493
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: What I was going to say, in terms of the

494
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: understanding or not understanding, I'm gonna go back to something

495
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: Vanessa brought up, and that's something Dave told you which

496
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: was you said R two was a dog, Chopper was

497
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 4: a cat. So is that maybe that's towards astromic droids,

498
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 4: but protocol droids or more like humanoid And maybe that

499
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 4: could be a reason why protocol droids speak languages that

500
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 4: you know, or speak multiple languages and they would understand,

501
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: but asks are more like, I guess animals or pets.

502
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's just me going off of the

503
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: information that I've gotten from j C.

504
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: Question.

505
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason's got his work cut out for him today.

506
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: You guys, when when Vader says the Apprentice lives, oh,

507
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 5: goose bumps so good?

508
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 4: What probably one of the most chilling lines, not just

509
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: in Rebels, not just in Star Wars, I think ever

510
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: like in the history of TV, film, cinema, because of

511
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 4: the weight of those words, and it's like he semi

512
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: breaks the fourth wall to it and the Apprentice lives.

513
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I think James earld Joe I was thinking,

514
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: is do you think he has any clue what all? Like,

515
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: he knows the context of it to an extent, but

516
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: do you think he knows all of the history of it?

517
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: That would I mean, because I could see both.

518
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 3: I could see him just being that dude who was like, yes,

519
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: I need to know all this, and I could also

520
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: see him just walking and saying it with the gravity

521
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: that he can say anywhere and.

522
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 5: Needing to know nothing exactly. It still comes out, yeah, exactly,

523
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I don't need that's I'm on to need

524
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 5: to know basis and.

525
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: I don't need to know that there.

526
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: It's one of those two things for sure. But also,

527
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 4: like I think, just knowing that James Earl Jones was

528
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: like the actor true actors actor and also theater actor,

529
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: you would think, you know, is he good enough to

530
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: not have to know anything and deliver that Yes? Did

531
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: he probably want information? Probably, but we'll never know. But

532
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: the truth that's on screen is what we see each

533
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: and every time he thought he.

534
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Was talking about the Trump reality show.

535
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 4: Oh god, oh God.

536
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 5: Taylor, you gotta go.

537
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: Top animators for that moment when it was just Vader's

538
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: face and then Ahsoka's eyes. We there are no words there,

539
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: We didn't see anything. Ahsoka falls to the ground. We

540
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: know what just happened, she felt him, and vice versa.

541
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the animators really illustrated that moment in a

542
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: really sort of soul crushing way that that was everything

543
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: and that was all animation.

544
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think also like four Clone Wars fans

545
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 5: watching that moment, woo whoa. Right, But because of the writing,

546
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 5: because of the animation, because of the performance, the performance

547
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 5: is you don't need to know, you don't need to know.

548
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 5: Knowing makes everything like, oh my gosh much more like

549
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: have have so much more meaning, but like you get

550
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: it right away and it feels like the gravitas of

551
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 5: that hits you or the you know, like how the

552
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: important at that moment. Also, sorry if I am interrupting anyone,

553
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: but you were talking about a quote that Canaan said earlier, right, Vanessa, Yes, yeah, yeah,

554
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 5: yeah yeah, And then I wrote down we must find

555
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 5: the strength to fight, but the greater courage is knowing

556
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: when not to fight. I mean, come on, drop in,

557
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: drop in some like heavy I mean not heavy in

558
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 5: a bad sense, but like some profound words to live by.

559
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 5: There just slipping it in under the guise of an

560
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 5: animated show, you know.

561
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: I think also just to give more adapt to Sam

562
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Whitwor for his Darth Citia's voice that moment, I mean, okay,

563
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: the Clone Wars moment of Okay, Snips feels her, you know,

564
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Jedi master or something, and he says the apprentice lives.

565
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: But when we see Dar Darth Vader Nil and speaking

566
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: his master, I feel like we get the order of

567
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: the universe in this fine, in this episode in a

568
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: big way totally. You know, if Freddy said sorry, if

569
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Canaan says you know when to not fight, like no

570
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: when no where to fold them as it were, and Uh,

571
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: to see such a you know, a sith Lord, a

572
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: profoundly dark force Neil to something else, it lets you

573
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: know that, like this is even worse than you thought.

574
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: Because it goes so much higher deeper, I guess than

575
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 5: you I thought. Have we ever seen Darth Vader Neil

576
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: before anyone before this moment? Because I'm no expert, but

577
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I don't think I've seen that before.

578
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Did anything happen like that with Dooku and Uh Sidious before?

579
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe in one of the movie JC.

580
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 4: No, because because they were incognito, because we didn't know

581
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: that Palpatine was citious yet at that point, so I

582
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: wouldn't have I don't think we would have seen that,

583
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: but not to my knowledge. But JC will know, so

584
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: don't take my word for it. But that's such a

585
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: great thing to bring up, because even though we just

586
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: talked about everyone knows who Darth Vader is, the writing

587
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: of this is as if you don't, so that you've

588
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: got to show that as powerful as this guy is,

589
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: he is answering to somebody else. In being true to

590
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: the prophecy, I always two there are the Apprentice and

591
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: the Master thing and that's so and the fact we

592
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: never actually see Palpatine, we just hear him. Uh, there's

593
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: horror veins running right through this episode with like the

594
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: Apprentice lives a line and the way like the ominous

595
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: voice courtesy of Sam Witt were with this dark sith

596
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 4: lord who just like cleaned everybody's clock like effortlessly. But

597
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: he's answering to somebody else. So if he's that bad,

598
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: Like how bad is this guy that he's saying, yes,

599
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: Master to you?

600
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 5: And then if I may dispatch another inquisitor. Oh oh,

601
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: it's so good. I'm on the edge of my seat

602
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: and I did it already. I acted in the show.

603
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 5: That is a way to end a two part season premiere,

604
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 5: I tell you.

605
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really good. The show is good watching.

606
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: I finally got them right, we got you're gonna stick around.

607
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: This is the dumbest I shouldn't even go there.

608
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: But I'm just actually curious, and this is genuinely the

609
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: dumbest inquisition. But you said, just have we seen Darth

610
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: Vader Neil before? Do any of the characters this Canaan

611
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: brushes teeth? Does dar Vader go to the bathroom? Like

612
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: the simple things in life in Star Wars?

613
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: Does that exist?

614
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: Like?

615
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: Does that make any sense? I want to say this

616
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: the mundane Quoteitian life of it, like is.

617
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: There anyone eating a sandwich because they're hungry?

618
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: Like we have made run and stuff? But like do

619
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: they brush their teeth? Or is that they're fighting?

620
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: But that's not a dumb question because that's the question

621
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: that everybody, I'm sure has asked at some point any

622
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: Star Wars fan. And I do know at some point.

623
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: I don't think it's this season, and it might be

624
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: I know for sure when when when the next droid

625
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: comes up, there's the refresher. They interest the refresher, which

626
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: is the restroom, which they never did in Star Wars

627
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: afore it again, jac can fact check me on that

628
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, there are restrooms on these ships.

629
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: So they do address it at some point that there

630
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 4: are restrooms, so I guess I don't think we need

631
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 4: even though again maybe in the prequel we can see, oh,

632
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: Kate it likes to use Colgate Total to make sure

633
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: all his cavities are in check or whatever, you know,

634
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: shout out to the Colgate who was not our sponsors

635
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: at least not yet. But yeah, I mean it's like

636
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: I like that stuff too. I like the those little

637
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: mundane details because the little everyday things that you don't

638
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: show on screen. But do these characters do that. I mean,

639
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: they all seem their hygiene seems to be fine, so

640
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: I would think yes.

641
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

642
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: He even admits.

643
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: Is like, have you smelled me?

644
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: It was last episode when they got Trojan Horse the.

645
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: In sorry go ahead? Did you have more?

646
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: Well, just one more thing to kind of I guess

647
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit, because we're all very inquisitive minds

648
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: here and very well read. And I did bring up

649
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: Tony Morrison for a reason because I thought of that,

650
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: because she talks about how trauma never disappears, just resurfaces.

651
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: It's just something that's dormant until it's not anymore, which

652
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: is what we see with Ahsoka, how it all rose

653
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: to the service the moment she got confirmation this is

654
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 4: my former master. Yeah. And it goes right into something

655
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: called emotional load theory, which is like a cognitive overload,

656
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: which is in psychology, there's this idea that stress doesn't

657
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: reset after a stressful event, It just kind of compounds,

658
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: it keeps on building and building and building, which is

659
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: I feel like that's what we're seeing with ah Soca,

660
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: that's what we're seeing with the Ghost Crew, and I

661
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: feel like that emotional load really came to light, or

662
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 4: really hit the fan rather the moment Ghost Crew came

663
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: back to Phoenis Squadron with that emotional weight and then

664
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: they brought Vader with the ship literally goes down. So

665
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: that's just something I want to plant in your brains

666
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: because I love when I bring stuff like this up,

667
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: because I know that I always get a very academia

668
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: intellectual answer from the three of you, and I know

669
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: that I'm sure you saw themes of that as well,

670
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: seeing in Ahsoka's reaction but also just the reaction of

671
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: all the characters.

672
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: I definitely felt that in that moment and something that

673
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: I was going to say. When we spoke about the

674
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: hologram of Sidius speaking to Vader, it reminded me of

675
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: the hologram of Tua trying to reach them and they say,

676
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: don't accept it. Don't accept it because they'll know where

677
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: we are. That's trauma, right, there's a trauma response like no,

678
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: and Harris says, make it a one way transmission, so

679
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: they don't know where we are. That to me also

680
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: elevated the stakes of this, that that could create more

681
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: trauma that could get them killed. Like every moment of

682
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: this episode was f with that level of anxiety I feel,

683
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: and the danger and the decision to take that message no,

684
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: let's see what Tua wants. Like every moment of this

685
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: was just bristling with that kind of tension and then

686
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: to have it explode literally where her brain, you know,

687
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: she just drops to the ground. I feel like that

688
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: that's sort of the apex of it, sort of the

689
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: most severe version of it. But I felt that level

690
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: throughout the entire two part episode, or both episodes part

691
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: one and part two. Did you feel that tailor?

692
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: I did.

693
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting what you're bringing up of, Like,

694
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: I think that's what makes Asoca such an interesting character too,

695
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: And in my head, being a Jedi is this transcendent

696
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: way of life as well, that if there's someone you

697
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: can overcome a trauma or like an experience, you would

698
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: lean on the Jedi. But I think it's why I'm

699
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: so drawn character like Ahsoka, a character like Canaan. They

700
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: have a past that they're still like quarreling with and

701
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: it's just cool to have it brought in as well.

702
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: And it's one of the most famous characters. Like we

703
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: already spoken about that it is. It shows her like

704
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: strength as well dealing with all of it, and I

705
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: think that's why she's one of the cooler characters in

706
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: Star Wars.

707
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, how heavy is it when at the

708
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 4: end when she's having that talk with Canaan and Ezra

709
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: and Linda, know, like telling them without telling them what

710
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: they're really up against. And again back to Tony Morrison

711
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: and Beloved, she has this quote, this is not a

712
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: story to pass on. I felt that was so true

713
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: with the Whsoka here where she could have told them Albright,

714
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: this was my former master. He got seduced by the

715
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: dark side. But she just I think, you know, obviously

716
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: Isocha with her. She had her own reasons and her

717
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: best intentions of no, I don't know who that is,

718
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 4: but in a way it's true. She doesn't know who

719
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 4: Vader is. She knew Anakin, so she from a certain

720
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 4: point of view, if you will, she was very much honest.

721
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 4: But also she and like Commander Rex, who are going

722
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: to see very soon and then like the next episode,

723
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: you know, soldiers like that in a former Jedi like Ahsoka,

724
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: they're gonna carry that silence with them, Yeah, because it's

725
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: like who else can who could they tell that would

726
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: actually understand what they're going through? And I felt like

727
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: that shot of Ahsoka turning and I know it's animation,

728
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: but you see all the subtleties in the face and

729
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: credit to Ashley too is I'm sure I know that

730
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: they've referenced y'all in the booth. So actually bringing that

731
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: energy to that moment of silence, like you feel the

732
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: way to that of yeah, this is my trauma, this

733
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: is my truth, but it's not mine to pass on

734
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: to you, and you just feel all that burden and

735
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 4: all the repression and everything there. It's just so powerful.

736
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: I just was like when I first saw this episode

737
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 4: years ago. I'm just all fixated, Oh, it's Vader, it's this,

738
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: And like I watched Clone Wars that and then when

739
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 4: I rewatch it for the podcast, you know, months ago

740
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: before to prepare for this, and then rewatch it again,

741
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: I was like, it just hit much, much, much different.

742
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 4: Having all that contacts and also having our talk with

743
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: Ashley about a month ago.

744
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: I wonder also, and maybe this is a question for

745
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: JC if she does know that that is Anakin transformed,

746
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: because I believe it's the end is at the end

747
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: of this season or season three, when you know she's

748
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: in the Jedi Temple and or whatever that that temple

749
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: is and she sees his eyes. There's that moment where

750
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: Ahsoka sees the eyes beneath the mask. I feel like

751
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: that's the moment where she gets that that's her master.

752
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: I feel like she doesn't know exactly what happened to

753
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: him at this point, that it's that it must be him,

754
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: But I feel like there's there's a level of mystery

755
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: that it's fair for her to say, no, I don't

756
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: know this. I don't know who that is as well. Oh,

757
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Jace might know.

758
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: I'll definitely know I mean, but the other side of

759
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: it is Vader knows. Oh I know it's Asoka, So

760
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: that's the scary part of it. But yeah, I mean

761
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 4: it's going to I think maybe it's a great debate.

762
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: I feel like from my point of view, and by

763
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 4: no means am I considering this factor ken And I

764
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: think she knows what doesn't want to know, like doesn't

765
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: want to believe it's That's what it feels like to me.

766
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

767
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: Also, she has not changed. She is the same Darth

768
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Vader has changed from anagin into Darth Vader. So Darth

769
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: Vader knows what his padawan feels like and can say

770
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: certainly the apprentice lives where she might be like that

771
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: feels like that feels like a version of something I

772
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: knew long ago. But God forbid, it's what I think

773
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: it is. You know, like you say he doesn't want

774
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: to know or I don't know. I'm curious to hear

775
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: what jac has to say.

776
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: I think our fact that's going to be very enlightening

777
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: and educational today. Back to Zra really quick. I mean,

778
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: you know I alluded to like Thomas Wolf and in

779
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: the last episode, like the whole you can't go home again,

780
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: but seeing the destruction of the home planet and all

781
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: that stuff, but seeing the growth and maturity really come

782
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 4: into fruition for Ezra, where in season one he wouldn't

783
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: want to go head on like how zeb suggested, like

784
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: let's go bash these guys in That would have been

785
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: Ezra in season one, but in this one he takes pause,

786
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: starts to see the big pictures, like this is my

787
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 4: home planet. I love my home planet. But there's nothing

788
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: we can do right now. So let's go back to

789
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: Fiendis Squadron. Let's become stronger and then we get in

790
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: a position to help them out. I thought that was

791
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 4: such a cool character building thing. And and I know,

792
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 4: like it was so long ago, Taylor, but and you've

793
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: done many projects since then, but maybe looking back in retrospect,

794
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: is it more clear to you just how well thought

795
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: out like these little arcs were for your character and

796
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: the development of your character.

797
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely and exactly what you're referencing that to me was

798
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: the biggest sign of growth, like an actionable thing, especially with.

799
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: Where he started.

800
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: And going back to I think what I was saying

801
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: last week last episode, that is another tie in of

802
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 3: like I feel growing up, I was a very impulsive person,

803
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: and I would react the way Ezra would have in

804
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: the first season. But I think I learned through Ezra

805
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: a bit this sort of reticence and what strength can

806
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: be in awareness to be patient and go back and

807
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: learn or develop or grow whatever that is. And it's

808
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: cool to see too, Like I'm like watching it kind

809
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: of proud of Ezra, which is really sweet. And you

810
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 3: see those first signs of like, Okay's he's becoming something

811
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: more than what he was. Yeah, and he's helping and

812
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: he's helping the Rebels. I felt that in a cool

813
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: way as well, like he's, uh, he's never been like

814
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: dead weight, but he's he's adding to a group that

815
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: is doing so much. Especially like I feel Hair is

816
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: such a strong character that's always so selfless in what

817
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 3: she's doing for the rebellion that it's cool to see

818
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 3: Azra do that as well and learn from them.

819
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and speaking of my Governessa, you have some levels

820
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: you have to hit in this episode. There's intensity, there's compassion,

821
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: but like you have to really quiet like that that's

822
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: you tap into so many cool things in this episode.

823
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: There are a lot of moments for sure. Yeah, when

824
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: she's like make Mom and Dad proud, which before but

825
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: also and she's like, I think I know the guy

826
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: who can get us off loathal and they're like, not him.

827
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: She has that kind of that that sound to her,

828
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: and then the hang on there's just there's a lot

829
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: of uh movement for her.

830
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: But the high stake stuff too, when things are really

831
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: come into a head, haarh knows when to turn it

832
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: up and let people know, almost like the football coach

833
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: who knows when to be the disciplinarian, like everyone shut up,

834
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: Mom is speaking of the adult is talking. Listen, and

835
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: you brought that energy, which is so it was just

836
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: so like awesome, like to hear that, and I was like,

837
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: oh my god, Like this is because you don't hear

838
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: that often from Harah. Harr is the collective one. She's

839
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: the de escalator more times than not. Yeah, but when

840
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: she needs to, she's going to be the one to

841
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: get in your face, go hey, get your stuff together. Yeah,

842
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 4: you have something to do, let's get it done. And

843
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: I thought that was so cool to see in this episode.

844
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: I thought so too when she tells Chopper get ready

845
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: to fly this thing out of here? Yeah you know,

846
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's right, Chopper can do that.

847
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 4: And speaking of flying A wings, we got a bunch

848
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: of A wings which unfortunately didn't the last very long.

849
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: This will be a JAC question too. I believe these

850
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 4: are like I don't know if they're like this the

851
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 4: right term, like the beta tested wings, like first generation

852
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: A wings, like I'm sure there's been an evolution to

853
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: them by the time we see them again in a

854
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: new Hope. But I know JC will for sure know

855
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 4: the answer to that. And I caught I believe is

856
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: an intentional East Dragon, because I think everything's intentional. Here

857
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 4: the call sign you give one two one eight one five.

858
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: That's the release date of episode seven, The Force Awakens.

859
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: And this came out in June of twenty fifteen, so

860
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: you were already hinting at oh, the release date of

861
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: Force Awakens is going to be December eighteenth, twenty fifteen.

862
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: So that's the Wow.

863
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: Well done finding that.

864
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, wait a minute, one too many

865
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's that's clever.

866
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

867
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: Uh well, I think with all that, I think that's

868
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: a perfect segue to get to our edutainment segment of

869
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: the podcast, which is our fact check with JC. Rifenberger,

870
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 4: What do we got today?

871
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 8: Here you go?

872
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, were you in the back of the tank?

873
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 8: I was.

874
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 6: I was trying to get some a wing information, pull

875
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 6: some a wing some details on it.

876
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 4: From you from your brain obviously.

877
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, uh okay, let's see. Oh my gosh, lots of

878
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 6: stuff today.

879
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 8: I came in.

880
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 6: My first note was I got nothing. These episodes are

881
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 6: so good, but I have stuff now. I just wanted

882
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 6: to say, I just loved how so and I've talked

883
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 6: about on the podcast. I came into Rebels with a

884
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 6: whole lot of trepidation, right, and so when I I

885
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 6: think these episodes aired, this is when I started watching Rebels.

886
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 6: Was I watched season one to catch up to Darth

887
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 6: Vader showing up, and I was very nervous about it,

888
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 6: because what are you going to do to Darth Vader?

889
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 6: And how are you going to justify using Darth Vader?

890
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 6: How do you do it in a way that isn't

891
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 6: dumbing down the character, making Luke Skywalker less important?

892
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 8: All of those things.

893
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 6: Ezra and Canaan are like it's almost like uh, Mike

894
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 6: Tyson in his prime sparring against like some kids off

895
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 6: the street, like he doesn't even yeah, like glass Joe

896
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 6: from uh from punch Out. Yeah, it was done so well.

897
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 8: It was.

898
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: It just showed how much Vader even like is holding

899
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 6: back against Obi Wan Kenobi in a New Hope, right, Like,

900
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 6: oh no, here he is in his prime. He could

901
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 6: do this whenever he wants, Like he's almost toying with

902
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: Obi Wan Kenoby in a New Hope. I just loved

903
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 6: how through action they made Vader like so powerful. And John,

904
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 6: you mentioned the release date of Force Awakens. You also

905
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 6: mentioned this episode aired June twenty, twenty fifteen, so this

906
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 6: aired like a year and a half before. We saw

907
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 6: Darth Vader do this same sort of thing in Rogue

908
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 6: one at the end of Rogue one, right where that's

909
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 6: like what everybody talks about where you're like, oh my god,

910
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 6: it's a Darth Vader I've always waited for at the

911
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 6: end of Rogue one. But this came a year and

912
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 6: a half early, and I feel like this is the

913
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 6: Darth Vader that like feeds into what we saw in

914
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 6: Rogue one, which I thought was really cool and like

915
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 6: he's flying against the a wings. You got to see

916
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 6: like Anakin. When I met your father, he was already

917
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: a great pilot, but I was amazed at how strongly

918
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 6: the force was with him, which is what Obi Wan

919
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 6: says to Luke in a New Hope. You got to

920
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 6: see him be that pilot finally, not just a kid

921
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 6: in a pod racer, but like he's like there's a

922
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: shot where he's like flying and he like flips the

923
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 6: ship around and spins it one eighty and then blows

924
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 6: up a bunch of a wings. It was just so

925
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 6: much fun. It was so incredible to watch. It made

926
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 6: Darth Vader scary again. And that's something I talked about

927
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 6: with and Or Too is like, oh, it makes the

928
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 6: Empire scary again, Like this episode made Darth Vader. It

929
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 6: turned him from like Donald Duck in a helmet at

930
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 6: Disneyland into a character to be feared, which I thought

931
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 6: was really cool. Anyway, that's my background take on the

932
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 6: show because I was so excited about it getting into

933
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 6: fact check.

934
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: Okay, before you go, let me ask you something really quick.

935
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 4: Did you get by any chance Indiana Jones last crusade

936
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: vibes when they go in between the two star destoryers, like, yes, same,

937
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: go back to the two boats. I wanted to ask

938
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: you that when we got out here, so I was.

939
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 8: Go betweet them? Are you crazy?

940
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

941
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 4: Don't go betweet them? Yeah, I totally said, don't go

942
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 4: between them.

943
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: Yes, Lando's droid named W one l E or Willie,

944
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 6: which was the early Ralph mcquarie concept for C three

945
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 6: po as two pointed out voice by Sam Whitwaer droid voices.

946
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 8: So we waded into.

947
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 6: Some dangerous territory here, and I hope people have made

948
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 6: it through that without posting on social media, because I'm

949
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 6: about to debunk all of it.

950
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 8: Droid voices. What determines a droid voice? Now?

951
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 6: Using canonical references. C three po is blown apart in

952
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 6: Empire strikes back on Cloud City, Chewbacca is putting him

953
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 6: back together, and he is adjusting a knob on the

954
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 6: back of C three po's like neck or head or

955
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 6: back area. And you listen to C three po cycle

956
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 6: through many, many different languages and inflections and voices. So

957
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 6: that would lead me to believe that you can, you know, again,

958
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 6: like your GPS, you can kind of maybe pick between

959
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 6: and modulate it a little bit.

960
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 8: Also, when C threebo.

961
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 6: Is on Endor telling the story of Star Wars to

962
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 6: the Ewoks. He recreates many different sound effects and voices

963
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 6: during that story. Now, if that doesn't convince you, Star

964
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 6: Wars episode one, TC fourteen is a droid played by

965
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 6: a voice by Lindsay Duncan, which is definitely a female

966
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 6: protocol droid. TC fourteen at your Service is the droid

967
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 6: that welcomes Obi Wan and and Hui Gon to the

968
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 6: Trade Federation ship. There there's a droid named Gury from

969
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 6: the Shadows of the Empire book and video game back

970
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 6: in the mid nineties that was like alluded to, is

971
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 6: like a very realistic human robot to you know, do

972
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: what you want with L three Lando's droid and solo

973
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 6: is female. EV ninety nine, which is the droid not

974
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 6: the white eight D eight torture droid in Jaba's palace,

975
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 6: but the one that like puts R two, D two

976
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 6: and C three po and assign them their jobs. EV

977
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 6: ninety nine is a female programmed droid and apparently also

978
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 6: Obi Wan Kenobi's R two unit ARE four from Star

979
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 6: Wars episode two is also a female program droid.

980
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 4: Wow, so interesting.

981
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: That's all it there.

982
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 6: And then just a little backstory the episode three droid

983
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 6: that is like the nurse. They it is a midwife

984
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 6: droid named It's a Croon tan b Machine, which I

985
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 6: think they actually made a action figure of. Wow, they

986
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 6: made an action figure of some of those droids. Let's see.

987
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 6: Let's oh just again, like last episode talking about like

988
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 6: what you need to know? I think the mark of

989
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 6: a great show is you don't need to watch everything

990
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 6: that came before it and after to understand where it fits.

991
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 3: Right.

992
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 6: So where the MCU the Marvel movies are great is

993
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 6: like you can sit down and watch ant Man without

994
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 6: having seen everything that came before ant Man. I think

995
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 6: where those movies get a little bogged down is where

996
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 6: it's like ant Man three, if you haven't seen all

997
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 6: the ant Man's and all the other movies that come

998
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 6: around it, you can't you don't understand it. And that

999
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 6: is what's so great about Rebels is you can sit

1000
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 6: down and watch Rebels and have no idea who Luke

1001
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 6: Skywalker is, but you understand what Star Wars is. I

1002
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 6: think that's what makes a show or a movie great,

1003
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 6: even when it's within a cinematic universe, is that it

1004
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 6: stands on its own and can be a jumping off

1005
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 6: point for anything else. But it makes sense within itself.

1006
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 6: Tia had mentioned Canan's quote about knowing when to fight

1007
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 6: sounded a lot. Also like another Jedis quote to Han Solo,

1008
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 6: we can't win, but there are alternatives to fighting Obi

1009
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 6: Wan Kenobi in a New Hope.

1010
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 8: Also, we mentioned like Vader kneeling.

1011
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 6: He does kneel in Empire Strikes back to the Emperor,

1012
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 6: So if we're talking about canonical timeline, then this would

1013
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 6: be the first time sort of, but Anakin after he's

1014
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 6: dubbed Darth Vader kneels to Palpatine in his office, So

1015
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 6: if you're looking at just Darth Vader when he's in

1016
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 6: the suit kneeling to somebody, this would be it. But

1017
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty he did it on the Star Destroyer

1018
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 6: to the Emperor when making contact and also ooh Brido's

1019
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 6: hands Phil And then again he did it in Star

1020
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 6: Wars episode three before he got the suit, but after

1021
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 6: he was dubbed Darth Vader. There is no official info

1022
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 6: on whether or not Sabine is ambidextrous, so we'll just

1023
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 6: go because Tia apparently is ambidextrius, so is Sabine.

1024
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 8: Taylor.

1025
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 6: When we were talking about kneeling and things, like that

1026
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 6: you were talking about Star Wars bathrooms and toothbrushes and things.

1027
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 6: There is a Star Wars bathroom. They do go to

1028
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 6: the bathroom. Horatio Sans plays an alien in The Mandalorian

1029
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 6: season one who uses the bathroom to try to escape

1030
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 6: from the Mandalorian and we get a shot of the

1031
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 6: toilet that is on the Mandalorian ship the razorcrest. So yes,

1032
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 6: and it's called a refresher as John mentioned in that episode.

1033
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: Was that introduced with Timothy's On or were you about

1034
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: to get to that?

1035
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 6: I think it's I think it's introduced with Timothy's On,

1036
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 6: along with like calf, which is like their version of coffee,

1037
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 6: and a bunch of other like of the the day

1038
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 6: to day minutia or even in the Timothy's On book,

1039
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 6: Luke talks about drinking hot chocolate by name as introduced

1040
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 6: to him from Lando.

1041
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: Wow.

1042
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 6: I don't know why I randomly remember that. But uh,

1043
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 6: then we talked about Ahsoka. When does Ahsoka find out

1044
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 6: that Anakin invader? I think you guys pretty much nailed it.

1045
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 6: I think that she has this like she knows that

1046
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 6: what she sensed, like there's something more to it, whether

1047
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 6: or not She's like, that is Anakin, or that could

1048
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 6: be Anakin, or I hope that's not Anakin. Is up

1049
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: for kind of debate up until the point where they

1050
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 6: make a real eye contact it the Sith Temple, and

1051
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 6: then she knows knows for sure, like her her bias

1052
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 6: has been confirmed that it is in fact her former master.

1053
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 6: And then John, you said the A wings and a

1054
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 6: New Hope, there are no A wings in A New Hope.

1055
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 6: A wings show upen Return of the Jedi for the

1056
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 6: first time, And.

1057
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 4: Are those different versions of the A wings because I

1058
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: got it's gone by right.

1059
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they are.

1060
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 6: I wasn't able to dig in and pull the model

1061
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 6: numbers and everything from that, but A wings, Yeah, A

1062
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 6: wings have evolved, X wings evolved. They all kind of

1063
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 6: evolve into into what we see first time in Return

1064
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 6: of the Jedi. You know, the Star Wars story team

1065
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 6: has done a great job kind of like connecting those

1066
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 6: those dots to make it make sense.

1067
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: Were there any medical droids? Am I? I feel like

1068
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: in Clone Wars where there were all those there were

1069
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: all those episodes about the microchip that they were putting,

1070
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, for Order sixty six and all that. I

1071
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: feel and I know there were female characters in the

1072
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: medical facilities. Maybe there weren't any droids, but for some reason,

1073
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know that those droids ever spoke. Actually, nevermind,

1074
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: I think it was just female characters.

1075
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't come across.

1076
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they spoke. I don't think

1077
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: they spoke.

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Speaker 8: I mean there's also like R two k T, which was.

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Speaker 6: Alvin Johnson from the five Oh First it was made Cannon,

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Speaker 6: I think in Rebels even, which is a pink and

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Speaker 6: female because it's an homage to his daughter.

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Speaker 8: So there are there there is some.

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Speaker 6: Like appearances of that, but I think in terms of speaking,

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Speaker 6: it's EV ninety nine, TC fourteen are kind of the

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Speaker 6: big ones, gotcha?

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Speaker 8: And that's what I got.

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Speaker 5: Amazing, Bram, well done, well done as usual.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as always. I've always loved like when we get

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Speaker 4: to the end of the show, it's like, oh man,

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Speaker 4: we're ending, but it's like also like we get to

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Speaker 4: learn a lot of cool stuff for the last.

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Speaker 3: Twenty minutes at this point has been probably the best

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Speaker 3: we've ever done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much much if you know, if you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, we'll just leave it at that. Well, thanks

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Speaker 4: as always JC for educating us and getting us more

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Speaker 4: well versed in the Star Wars lore and universe. And

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I know our listeners love it too, because

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Speaker 4: that's most of the comments we get each and every week,

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Speaker 4: which is always I'm always happy to see that. We'll

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Speaker 4: be back next week per usual everybody, But until then,

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Speaker 4: be well.

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Speaker 9: I have one I just want to let people know

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Speaker 9: that John started a TikTok page for us, So that's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: come find us over on TikTok pot of Rebellion.

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Speaker 1: We're there now, so come say.

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Speaker 4: Hi, and I will say we're going to put some

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Speaker 4: stuff on the TikTok that's not on the Instagram, just

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Speaker 4: some different kind of conclusistive content, exclusive TikTok content. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: we made it really easy Potter Rebellion across the board

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Speaker 4: and now we're there. We may be on other platform stupid,

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Speaker 4: for now you can get us Instagram and TikTok both

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Speaker 4: at Potter bell and look over some fun TikTok stuff

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Speaker 4: we've been talking about, some different content to go out there.

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Speaker 4: Thank you remembering that, Vanessa.

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Speaker 1: I just want to invite people to come say hi.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm no.

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Speaker 4: Please do come say hi?

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Speaker 6: Uh oh?

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Speaker 4: I think well that's a perfect segue to the magic

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Speaker 4: words said by nonether than Taylor Gray.

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Speaker 2: Cue the music.

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Speaker 4: Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts, Producing,

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Speaker 4: hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tiosurkar, Taylor Gray, and Johnny Brody

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Speaker 4: Executive producer and in house Star Wars guru slash fact

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Speaker 4: checker j C. Rifenberg. Our music was composed by Mikey Flash.

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Speaker 4: Our cover art was created by Neil Fraser of Neil

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Speaker 4: Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Holly Frey and Aaron Kaufman

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Speaker 4: over at iHeart, Evan krascoor at Willie Morrison, devor Trasy Canobio,

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Speaker 4: George Lucas for creating this universe we love so much,

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Speaker 4: and of course all of our amazing listeners. Follow us

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