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Speaker 1: to the Richard Sherman Podcast. I got my guy, Mitch Eisenstein,

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Dallas with rust thought they were gonna be and

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Speaker 1: well silly am I? Am I crazy to think that

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Speaker 1: Philly looks like an absolute juggernaut right now? And you're

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Speaker 1: not crazy? This team looks borderline unbeatable. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: First off, they got a hell of an offensive line

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Speaker 1: to go with a great receiving corps, to go with

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Speaker 1: great d line, great secondary. Is Philly your favorite to

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Speaker 1: come out of the NFC right now? My favorite to

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Speaker 1: come out of the nfcum, I mean, they kind of

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Speaker 1: got to be at this point. They haven't lost, they

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Speaker 1: Johnson has to be playing. If he goes out of

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Speaker 1: Dallas started to come back in that ballgame, even with

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Speaker 1: more problems than the Dallas Cowboys present. But I think

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Speaker 1: they'd be a hard argument to say they're not, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is not proving in the playoffs, but he's

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Speaker 1: work and they're really creative on the offense. They're getting

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Speaker 1: do anything to change that. Those guys both showed up

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Speaker 1: They act to play man and man covers quarters too, whatever,

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Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson has looked freaking amazing. I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: a glove. And it's it's hard to argue many. They

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Speaker 1: got a good team. They got obviously Fletcher Cox, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Look at you, you know, showing up in a big way.

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Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it's it's hard to argue man, Richard.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, it looks like they're having a lot of

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Speaker 1: playing with a ton of confidence. Our boy big play

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Speaker 1: winning teams. You've been on a couple of losing teams, Like,

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Speaker 1: But everybody's blaming Nathaniel Hackett and it's like Daniel Hackett's fault.

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Speaker 1: You need to fire him, like like it's fire him.

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Speaker 1: focus is just like you said, last week was a

423
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: It was basically it was. It was a good tech.

424
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: You know, we sat down, we came in watching them

425
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: yesterday and then us as players, we sat down and

426
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: mat I met on our own to figure out, you know,

427
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: what was going on with us as a group. You know,

428
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: we figured out that obviously this is not the same

429
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: team that we had in the previous years. We got

430
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: a couple of new pieces in here that you know,

431
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: got big roles to play. So this is a whole

432
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: different off topic. But like what's going on with rough

433
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: in the pastor because they ain't got you this year, V,

434
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: but they got you before and they getting everybody right now, Like,

435
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about this rough in the pastor stuff?

436
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous now. I feel like after the tour situation,

437
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: I think, uh, they try to make it more of

438
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: a point to you know, spread across the league that uh,

439
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: you know that they's gonna be calling it. Yally got

440
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: me against the Falcons was kind of yeah, the old

441
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: lineman kind of pushed me into Mario. Yeah, I should

442
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: have avoided him. Now, I should have been smarter than

443
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: on that situation. But you know, Mario to being an

444
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: organ dusk, you know. Uh, but but like, is that's

445
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: something y'all think about because you know, as dB, you

446
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: try not to ever think about like pass interference, holding

447
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: illegal contact, but when they call it, when they calling

448
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: it ridiculous, then it kind of it kind of like

449
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: make you hesitant, and it kind of messed your game

450
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: up a little bit, at least at least for us.

451
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: You know, like after a while you'd be like, bro,

452
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: come on, now, this this this game hard enough. It

453
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: is like the the Thursday Night game the other week

454
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: where Chris Jones got that uh that was that was

455
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: that was kind of iffy because you could tell like

456
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: he was. They say, like, as long as you roll

457
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: off at the end, you could be good. So like

458
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: we've seen that. It was kind of you know, it

459
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: was kind of iffy when you've seen stuff like that.

460
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: So it was obviously it's gonna hurt more for the

461
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: person trying to get the sack because they're taken it

462
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: away from you. But it's like it's hard to do

463
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: because he's not you know, we athletes, but we're not

464
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: doing tupman out there. You're just you know what I'm saying,

465
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you can't you're not thinking that fast. Once you get there,

466
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: you get free, you be r rest, and you get

467
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: the sack. You're not thinking about, oh I gotta roll

468
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: out fast. Like it's like everything happened so fast. So

469
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: like sometimes rolling off at the end late, that's the

470
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: that's the least you could do to you know, try

471
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: to avoid the county. But it looked like hand down too,

472
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then when they when

473
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: they replayed it, it did. But it was also brought

474
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: to my attention that guys the lineman that try to

475
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: avoid the rough and pastor from laying on top of

476
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: him like that. There's a there's a study that says they, uh,

477
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: they used to get hurt. They have Yeah, they had

478
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: knee problems. So it's just like, I understand you're trying

479
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: to protect the quarterbacks, but you know other players getting

480
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: hurt off of that too, right, and they never trying

481
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: to protect the defensive players. I mean, look at the

482
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: chip block we've been We took that to the competition

483
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: committee like years ago, about them chipping and boys on

484
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: the edge and breaking people ribs and stuff. It was like,

485
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: it's protecting the quarterback, So what's good. It's like, oh,

486
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: come on, come on now, come But Ba still out there.

487
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: Like the NBA's gone, BA is not gone. He looked

488
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: like he's still coaching. He is. He still out there

489
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: yelling at everybody. He's still out here. He's still here

490
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: giving this at his little input around he got. It's

491
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: still it's still good seeing them out here. I've seen

492
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 1: him around the facility. Is still still joking with him. Uh.

493
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: But he's looking good right now. You can tell he

494
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: lost a lot of weight. Right he's a little really healthy.

495
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: Right now, he's doing good. He ain't doing nothing but golfing.

496
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: Probably ain't gotta hear. He got a game playing. He

497
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: ain't gotta wake up early. He just got golf whatever.

498
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: He won't show up. I ain't mad at you be.

499
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: He living. Yes, pizza in Mayo. Somebody said you eating

500
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: pizza in Mayo a V. I'm not believing it. They

501
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: put it out there. I said, nah, not my boy V.

502
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: Who said that? Man rumors, you know what I mean, sources,

503
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: You know, all right, it's just a little just a

504
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: little story that go with it. Though you know it

505
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't my idea. It was somebody. You know,

506
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: it was it was my rookie year. It was after

507
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: the uh you know, and after the first game, I

508
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: had my brother and cousin in town and we had

509
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: ordered some pizza and we were just chilling. The beginning

510
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: of the off season, were chilling. Pizza came. I was

511
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: staying in the apartment this time. When the pizza got there,

512
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: they forgot to bring the ranch and I had ran

513
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: out of ranch. You know what I'm saying, pizza rantza

514
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: ran for show her. Yeah. So uh it was like, damn,

515
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna rant and uh, what's it called? My brother?

516
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: It was his idea, He's gonna get mad because he

517
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: was liked. He put me on flash. It was it

518
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: was his idea. But he said, he said when I

519
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: was in college in the struggle days, he said, my

520
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: roommates said he eat the pizza with the mayo, and

521
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: they did that, and it was like it takes the same.

522
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: So it was like it was like one of those things.

523
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: I'll try it once, you know what I'm saying, See

524
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: what it See what you're talking about because he was

525
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: already eating it with it, so like, all right, did

526
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: a little dad, It takes just like the rings. It

527
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: was no difference. Really do you do? You still do it? Now? Nat,

528
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 1: I got that hidden valley on deck. I ain't mad

529
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: at you had that hidden valleys d so blue bluetop

530
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: or green uh green top, green tops clean, sir. Hey.

531
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: They said you averaged twelve yards to carry and eleven touchdowns.

532
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: I was running back in high school. Why you ain't

533
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: talked to bowls about like, let me get a carrier too.

534
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: They always got your at fullback, but never want to

535
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: get you the rock. You know, I just they joked

536
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: about it from from week to week, especially some of

537
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: the defensive coaches. But uh, you know, I was telling

538
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, my job was on defense. My job was

539
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: stopped the running, stopped, stopped doing the run the ball.

540
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: But you know, whatever they asked me to do, you know,

541
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I do it. It's kind of scary though, because I

542
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't play running back a long time. You know what

543
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm a big dude, you know, you know, yeah,

544
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: I know what they hit me. What I'm saying, I

545
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: ain't going out there getting getting hit low right straight

546
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: at your knees. Baby, you gotta go. If it's one yard,

547
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, I could do one yard. You know what

548
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying I can just run behind one of the

549
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: behind the center or something just died, right and just yeah,

550
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: that's it. But I already know the little dudes gonna

551
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: go low. Yeah I will, I would. I'm gonna let

552
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: you know something three fifty I'm I'm one hundred and

553
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: ninety pounds hitting hit and get that do But how's

554
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: the family? Everybody good? You know, I know y'all have

555
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: the hurricane and everything. Everybody say, making safe out of that,

556
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: huh yeah, everybody doing good. Everybody doing good out here.

557
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: You know, we got lucky out here Hurricane Miss Tampa. Uh.

558
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: We actually went down to Miami for the week to practice.

559
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: Down there went the hurricane come game. But you know,

560
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: the other parts in Florida, like Fort Mars and stuff.

561
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: I think the hurricane took a took a turn and

562
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: hit uh some other parts, so it was unfortunate for them.

563
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: But you know, um, the team and some of the

564
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: players have been taking some community working the effect, you know,

565
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: try to help the community and you know, rebuild back.

566
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah where the hurricane hit, right, that's all you can do, really,

567
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: just do your part. You ever go back to dub

568
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: you know your Dub boys look like they was gonna

569
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: do something for a minute and then they you know,

570
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: every time the Pack team, man Pac twelve, somebody got it.

571
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: You know, nobody want to just let nobody be undefeated

572
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: and get to the playoff, right, That's all I'm saying.

573
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: That's but that's the thing that's that's good about the

574
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: Pac twelve because any any given night, you know, anybody's

575
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: liveable to get beat UH. And it was it was

576
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: like that, you know, after we beat after they beat

577
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Michigan State, it was like, man, the boys going unde eight.

578
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: You know, they figured it out then, you know what

579
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Unfortunately they had to go do it to Stanford, right,

580
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: and then they went to UCLA. Dam boy, we can't

581
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: we can't win to Pack twelve game. Right now. We

582
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: go out there in South Bend and beat ore Dame,

583
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: but we couldn't beat the Organ State. Tell you, yeah,

584
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've seen that game. I've seen that.

585
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: As I was I'm saying, I was like, we're gonna

586
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: beat Michigan State and then we're gonna for some reason

587
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: that every time we're playing UH Arizona we lose bro

588
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: Arizona State. They gotta they gotta number Phoenix. How Organ

589
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: State got us, like for some reason, some crazy way,

590
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: they find a way to get us, and we watch

591
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: us end up beating that seats. We already lost that seat.

592
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: But like we're gonna beat Oregon. It's gonna it's we're

593
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: gonna be somebody we shouldn't have beat. We already lost

594
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: the organ tea now. But it's just Pack twelve. Man.

595
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: I think I think Utah might still have a chance,

596
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: you know now that they beat that see it, But

597
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for us to get anybody in

598
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs again. Like a good game though, that the

599
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: Scutah game. I watched a little bit of it. That

600
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: was a good game at the end. Then penalties heard

601
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: him at the end though, no question that kickoff it

602
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: was damn me. Ain't the feudal rings already? Right now?

603
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, how you how are your health doing? Though?

604
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: You you you healthy? Yeah? I'm doing good, you know,

605
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: just the little Nixon bruises here and there, normal stuff

606
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: that football bring right in the season. Right Well, I

607
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining me, brother. I ain't gonna hold up

608
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: no more your off day. Let you get some rest

609
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: and relaxation and I'll see you in a couple of

610
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: weeks at the Baltimore game. Yeah, sir, I got that.

611
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: You does sure for you. Man, You know what I'm saying.

612
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm bringing Look, you should have just brought the suit.

613
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna wear the purple suit. You didn't bring it.

614
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: I didn't have to wear it. I don't know. Look

615
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm talked so little man. I ain't gonna do you

616
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: like that? Look. I would have worn a hat like

617
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. You know what I mean. Oh good man, Yes, sir,

618
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Good to see you, brother, I see soone. Good to

619
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: see too, man, see soon. Appreciate you having yes, sir anytime.

620
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: The volume