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Speaker 1: and trapped analysis, Dallas Sex, Emma Smith running back from Florida.

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Speaker 1: It's another Thursday edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: Draft Show, presented by Miller Liott. We are closing in

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Speaker 1: two weeks, fourteen days. The countdown sits just over a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks away from the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: and we're bringing you all the coverage that you need

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Speaker 1: and trying to sit through exactly what this offseason looks

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Speaker 1: like for the Dallas Cowboys whenever it comes to the

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Speaker 1: virtuality of the NFL Draft. I've got Dave Hellman, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Turner back again. Jeff Cavanall is back with us as well.

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Speaker 1: So love having Jeff back. Missed you last week. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks filling in and doing a great job. But

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Speaker 1: Jeff is Captain Trade Down, still tooting this horn quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. Captain Trade Down Lives, Captain Trade Down Rise,

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Speaker 1: Captain Trade Down and going anywhere, not doing anywhere. Katie,

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Speaker 1: are you you on that same train. Are we team

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Speaker 1: forty Burger still or what are we trying to figure out?

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Speaker 1: Down here? Tell me who's on the board and then

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know how I feel about it. I

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Speaker 1: really don't know. There's so many things in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the first round. There's so many things that can happen,

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Speaker 1: good or bad, waiting on guys to fall to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm as more flexible than I've ever been, and that's

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Speaker 1: all that's because I've been doing a lot of at

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Speaker 1: home yoga. Because I haven't I'll go to the gym.

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Speaker 1: Nice you do you have a matt in like a

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Speaker 1: like a phone roller or are you just kind of

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Speaker 1: just doing it wherever? Oh? Yeah, I got a matt,

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Speaker 1: got the phone roller, got some dumbbells. Thanks, thanks for

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Speaker 1: going good Man, get a real tone. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Hellman could do some yoga and meditate a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I try. I might be the least flexible person in

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Speaker 1: the entire world, so like yoga for me is just

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Speaker 1: like trying to touch my toes. But you gotta do

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do in these trade times, and I

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Speaker 1: saw you were tweeting about Grant Delpot a little bit ago.

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Speaker 1: You had like kind of a mock pro day yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of putting you up on Grant Delpot

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Speaker 1: at the safety position? Yet you're LSU Tiger honest. I

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Speaker 1: mean I expected him to kill his pro day, I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't get to have a real one,

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Speaker 1: but it's clear that the guy is a freak athlete.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't change my opinion. Maybe it opened some people's eyes,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean he's he's a freak. I knew

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Speaker 1: that would happen. I'm seventeen. Not so much just because

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Speaker 1: of the position, probably, but like you know, if Captain

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Speaker 1: like twenty four or twenty five and grab him, I'm

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Speaker 1: down with that. That's fine with me. Kavanaugh, Are you

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Speaker 1: a fan of delpat Yeah? I like Delpa I know

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Speaker 1: the whole world hates him now and says that he

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Speaker 1: can't tackle, and yeah, he's got tackling issues, But Grant

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Speaker 1: Delpha's going to be a really good NFL player. I

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Speaker 1: feel like you're kind of on that train early we went,

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Speaker 1: and I mean it, I think it's still something that

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Speaker 1: line of logic that I've had since the combine, which

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Speaker 1: is I just don't see the Cowboys front office valuing

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Speaker 1: the position enough to take him at seventeen. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's possible, but I'd be kind of surprised, but I do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you should forget the name. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Jeff like I think the narrative is

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Speaker 1: so far out of control on Delpa, Like he's a

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Speaker 1: people act like the guy sucks. That's just not true.

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Speaker 1: I would also say that the signing of Haha, Clinton

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Speaker 1: saying it's not like something I held. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: look at the well now that you signed how Clinton Dix,

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Speaker 1: him and Xavier Woods and then whatever else, you're running

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Speaker 1: hard for me to justify taking delp it if I

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Speaker 1: the best player, bailble, And when that best player bailble,

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Speaker 1: a seven team turns out that all three receivers are

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Speaker 1: that's from captain trade down, hops in the saddle, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like we kind of talked about this a

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Speaker 1: hear Kavanaugh's captain trade doown moment a week ago as well.

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Speaker 1: But with all of the moves that the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: made this offseason, it's made it extremely easy for them

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Speaker 1: with those offseason additions. That way, whenever it comes to

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be awesome. And I also wonder, because

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Speaker 1: virtual players, so they're gonna walk across and like hug

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Speaker 1: the commissioner and stuff. Do you ask the players how

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Speaker 1: they want they're hug to look because maybe they don't

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Speaker 1: all two hundred and fifty players, right, I mean just

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Speaker 1: you know, six round picks don't get to walk across

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Speaker 1: front offices is like it's like Boomer Central, Like you're

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Speaker 1: I think this thing's gonna be a mess. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be straight chaos too, Like Jeff was talking

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Speaker 1: about trapping Cadet. I'm sorry, Captain trade Down had a

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Speaker 1: the saddle and ride. No such. So we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna zoom FaceTime skype, call another team and then also

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Speaker 1: Like that, that's all gonna be smooth. Trade negotiations and

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Speaker 1: I liked him and we didn't, So call him, call him,

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Speaker 1: call him. Well, he's got four offers, but he's on

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Speaker 1: the phone and he's only got one stream. Oh god,

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Speaker 1: oh no. See, I think that's gonna be like super chaotic.

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Speaker 1: if you have to do it this way in May,

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Speaker 1: that's how it is. But this makes more sense for

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Speaker 1: do this a month from now. Roger don't got time.

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Speaker 1: No KT, Roger don't have time for you. Roger says, Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's my spotlight. The dates are locked in. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: NFL stough. The owners, the g don't even want this

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Speaker 1: Everyone has time. Everyone has more time than they've ever

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Speaker 1: I admire that this is happening, because I mean, I

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Speaker 1: it back a few weeks. Oh, it's way more than

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Speaker 1: a little bit arrogant, but back to your your your

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Speaker 1: wrong one. Okay, So right now, this kind of goes

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Speaker 1: back to what we were talking about a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier with the holes on the defensive side. Whenever you're

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Speaker 1: looking at pick seventeen, and this question comes from Brandon,

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Speaker 1: it says with two major holes at right end in cornerback,

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Speaker 1: which is the most likely to be filled appropriately in

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Speaker 1: round one. You got to consider the influence of the

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Speaker 1: other hole as well. So it's kind of that teeter totter,

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Speaker 1: that balance between corner right defensive end, which one has

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Speaker 1: a better chance of being filled solidly in round one?

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Speaker 1: Cornerback has more likely. Here's I'm gonna break news to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna make a lot of people very sad if

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Speaker 1: you're filling your right defensive end need in the first round.

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Speaker 1: My guests would meet would be that means that Calevan

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Speaker 1: Chason made it to you and you picked him, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a boomer bust pick. Not that not

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Speaker 1: that it can't move, but I think that's a boomer

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Speaker 1: bust pick. I don't think we have necessarily a big

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Speaker 1: track record of production to look at with him, Like

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Speaker 1: we're basically looking at his high end plays and his

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Speaker 1: athleticism and projecting him to be an impact NFL player

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Speaker 1: because this defensive end class is really lacking. It's the

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Speaker 1: top end after Chase Young. So even if they pick him,

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Speaker 1: that could be a miss. Whereas at corner, I think

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Speaker 1: you've got a better chance. Maybe C. J. Henderson makes it,

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Speaker 1: or maybe it's one of those guys in the next group.

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Speaker 1: And this is why captain trade doown exists because if

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Speaker 1: the board goes away you don't like and you can

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Speaker 1: find somebody that wants to come up, and you can

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Speaker 1: move back six to tend then pick a name from

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Speaker 1: a handful of them. And I feel pretty good about

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Speaker 1: a corner that you can pick in the first round,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't feel the way about the same

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Speaker 1: way about the defensive end. Okay, but you're cheating because

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Speaker 1: even though I'm on board with captain trade down, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't bank on that happening at

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Speaker 1: pick seventeen, Like you can't bank on there being a

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Speaker 1: player available that somebody absolutely has to have to the

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Speaker 1: point where they'll trade up with you. So, okay, who's

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Speaker 1: safe or Christian Fulton or Calevan Chase on him? Well,

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Speaker 1: now that's what I was about to ask you. If

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Speaker 1: if Henderson's gone, and I really think he will be,

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Speaker 1: if Cia Henderson's gone, would you, I mean, you feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable drafting Christian Fulton or even um Jeff Gladney at

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Speaker 1: pick seventeen, would you do that? I would fake. I

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Speaker 1: would fake a WiFi out inch until I could work

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Speaker 1: my trade down I don't know, you're being up, You're

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Speaker 1: being you're by powered. I would okay, I would for

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Speaker 1: Christian Fulton or Trey vob Digg Oh I forgot wow, Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: we need to find out how they feel about AJ

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Speaker 1: Terrell or Terrell yea from Clemson? What need to find

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Speaker 1: out how they feel about him because I think I

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Speaker 1: think he needs to be in that conversation. I don't

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Speaker 1: have him, I mean and that and that boat. I

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Speaker 1: guess I would say of it's obviously Akuda Gladenee Henderson

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Speaker 1: for me, and I know it's Henderson for most everyone else,

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Speaker 1: and then digs Fulton kind of in some order. I

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Speaker 1: don't really don't have I have AJ Terrell on the

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Speaker 1: outside looking in. But I think there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of NFL teams that are enamored with AJ Terrell.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's a name that we shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: sleeping on. We should be talking about him a little

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Speaker 1: bit because I think he's, you know, get the potential

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Speaker 1: to go to twenty and someone might take a risk.

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Speaker 1: I would take chase on. I would bet on the upside,

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Speaker 1: and if I lose, that's my fault. But pass Rusher

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Speaker 1: I feel much better about in the first round than

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Speaker 1: I do in round two. And by the way, the

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Speaker 1: rest of the league knows that as well. I honestly

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Speaker 1: think we're a little arrogant if we think Chase Soun's

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Speaker 1: gonna be there at seventeen, because I think there's a

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Speaker 1: really good chance he's not. This draft really reminds me,

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Speaker 1: from an edge rusher standpoint of the twenty seventeen draft,

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Speaker 1: where Myles Garrett went off the top. You know, Sullivan

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Speaker 1: Thomas if they call him a defensive and I think

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Speaker 1: we might have had m graded as a three technique

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Speaker 1: And then Derek Barnett was the next guy that went,

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Speaker 1: and you're going, h don't know how I feel about

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Speaker 1: Derek Barnett, and he went at fourteen. And to me,

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Speaker 1: the whole reason Derek Barnett went that high is because

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Speaker 1: looking at the edge rushers in this draft, and I

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Speaker 1: guess I have to do it because it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: tough sled and if I don't do it now And

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel that same way about this draft.

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Speaker 1: So not only do I think the Cowboys should be

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Speaker 1: nancy about defensive end at seventeen. I also think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be other teams maybe trying to trade up and

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Speaker 1: get in front of them to go get that guy.

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Speaker 1: Because if you look at what Chason's done, the production

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Speaker 1: does not stand out. Watching him on games, he does

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Speaker 1: stand out as a player, But I think you sit

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Speaker 1: there and go, man, I got a bet on this

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Speaker 1: guy's age. He's young. I think the technique I can

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Speaker 1: work on and get a little bit better, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's got the juice. And I feel much better

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Speaker 1: about Chason being on the roster with him than I

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Speaker 1: would without him on opening day. Let's look at it

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Speaker 1: that way. Everything I think he said is perfect, Like

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Speaker 1: Katie just laid it out perfectly. I get such absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I get such strong twenty seventeen vibes, and I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a bummer for Cowboy fans because the Cowboys screwed

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Speaker 1: it up in twenty seventeen, But I think the logic

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Speaker 1: is still sound, and I mean, yeah, I would ride

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Speaker 1: with Chason's potential all day, especially because I think there's

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Speaker 1: a handful of pretty solid cornerbacks you can find on day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that kind of has to play into

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Speaker 1: it as well. Is where the depth is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you look at day two, in day three, whenever

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Speaker 1: it looks at edge rusher. Sure there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys out there, maybe not immediate starters,

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Speaker 1: which might end up working out for you. Whenever you

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Speaker 1: look at what you've done this offseason, depending on the

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Speaker 1: reinstatement of Randy Gregory and then also Aldon Smith. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's potential there of waiting and taking an edge rusher,

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Speaker 1: But if you're really looking at upside and you're trying

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Speaker 1: to go best player available, I feel like edge rusher

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Speaker 1: would be there more so than corner. And that's of

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Speaker 1: course saying like Dave said, C J. Henderson not being

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Speaker 1: in the picture at seventeen And if you operate this,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dave, I'll be quick. If you operate this

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Speaker 1: season as a Frandy Gregory now then Smith are going

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Speaker 1: to be there, then you're not doing a good job

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Speaker 1: of being a front office guy. You have to pretend

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Speaker 1: those guys are not going to be there. It's the

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Speaker 1: realistic thing to do. Yeah, But I do think Kat

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Speaker 1: you might have made the best point of all, which

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Speaker 1: is that, like I can't sit here and say I'm calm,

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Speaker 1: can't say I can't sit here and say I'm confident

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Speaker 1: in all that Chase On I'll ee would be there

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Speaker 1: because there just aren't that many options at pass rush,

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Speaker 1: and a guy with that sort of athleticism doesn't tend

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Speaker 1: to hang around for very long. All right, next question,

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Speaker 1: Russell Lowburger goes on and ask, and this is kind

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Speaker 1: of going back to what we were just talking about,

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Speaker 1: but instead of twenty seventeen, think about twenty nineteen's draft.

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Speaker 1: If you were to create a team only from this

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Speaker 1: draft class, how would it stack up against last year's

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Speaker 1: draft class? And which team do you think would win

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Speaker 1: based off of the prospects that are there? Oh, some

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Speaker 1: googles here if you're comparing, So if you're comparing this

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Speaker 1: year to last year, this year's draft to last year's

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Speaker 1: draft based on the prospects, which which class do you

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Speaker 1: think would bet be better? I'm looking at it last

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Speaker 1: year's draft, Nick Vosa, Quinnon Williams, Devin White and Devin Bush,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I mean from from they had better defensive

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Speaker 1: ends for sure, But you want to put Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 1: and DK Metcalf up against Ceedee Lamb and Jerry Judy. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, you gotta think about quarterbacks too,

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Speaker 1: last year versus this year. This year's draft has the

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Speaker 1: well and who are you vicking? Or? Would you take

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow or Kyler Murray? I think Kyler had a

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Speaker 1: pretty good rookie year and the future looks pretty bright

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Speaker 1: for him. This looks bright for Joe Burrow too, though. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know which way I guess I

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Speaker 1: would lean to this year's quarterback class. But we can

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Speaker 1: only play one of them, so it's Kyler against Burrow.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line at tackle is going to be better

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Speaker 1: this year than last year. Interior will be better last

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Speaker 1: year than this year? Chief? Are you all aware? I

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Speaker 1: totally I didn't even realize this. DeAndre Baker was the

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Speaker 1: only cornerback taken in the first round last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: last year was pretty pretty bad quarterback draft. Although I

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Speaker 1: mean you get you know, you get Byron Murphy and

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Speaker 1: Rock your Sin were really early second round picks and

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Speaker 1: they both had nice rookie years, So it's doable, Jeff said.

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Speaker 1: The wide receiver, give me Hollywood Brown, AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Deebo,

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Speaker 1: Samuel Look you go, those guys weren't first round picks.

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Speaker 1: So like the Sids, Hollywood Brown, like I can, I

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Speaker 1: can make the case for last year over this year

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Speaker 1: right now, um, and you know, just by counting it

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Speaker 1: out and I just pull up my draft chart from

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Speaker 1: last year. But if I'm looking at my first round grades,

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Speaker 1: I'm confident that I had more first round grades last

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Speaker 1: year than I this year. Yeah, I mean too, that's true. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So overall, I see that I could see both kind

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Speaker 1: of you got a give and take whenever it comes

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Speaker 1: to the classes in the positions. Overall, we got time

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Speaker 1: for maybe one more question. We'll maybe try and get

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Speaker 1: to two. So this is from Ty Davis and Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 1: of course, being a University of Arkansas graduate, and there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of Arkansas players coming out this year. What

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Speaker 1: are their draft get grades? Impossible chances of them ending

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Speaker 1: up in Dallas. And he's mainly asking about the tight

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Speaker 1: end Chyenno Grady and then the defensive tackle McTelvin a

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Speaker 1: game who we talked about last week. Well, McTelvin a

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Speaker 1: Jeames's he's really good Day three tach guy. Just the

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Speaker 1: way he burst off the line. I mean I see

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Speaker 1: a little you know, Malie Collins to his game. I

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Speaker 1: think I might have mentioned that last week. I do

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Speaker 1: worry about him as a run stopper. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who is asked to put

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Speaker 1: on weight from defensive end to play inside of defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle and provide it's a really good pass rush up

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Speaker 1: the middle. I really like even if you wanted to

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Speaker 1: go fourth round on McTelvin agim, I would understand that

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Speaker 1: and be on board with it. With Shyanne O'Grady, I

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Speaker 1: mean to me, I think if you want to draft

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Speaker 1: him in the sixth or seventh round, that's fine. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a huge fan of his tape. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you do see the tight end class. There's some names,

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Speaker 1: but after you, this tight end class gets about seven

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Speaker 1: or eight names. Deef, you sit there and go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: do I really need to spend a draft pick on

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Speaker 1: this guy or not? Especially with me. I'll be quick

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Speaker 1: for me being a guy too. It's I'm okay with

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Speaker 1: doing away with the tight end position and just you know,

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Speaker 1: just spreading him out so at ten personnel. Baby, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't see you. I don't see it with O'Grady.

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Speaker 1: I do like a game though he was a late

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Speaker 1: edition of the Senior Bowl and had a great week

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Speaker 1: down there. I like him not so much the tight end.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, like I feel like this comes up

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Speaker 1: a lot. Jerry Jones has only ever drafted one Arkansas

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Speaker 1: player and it was Felix Jones, uh what twelve years ago,

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Speaker 1: which not to say it's impossible, but like people act

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Speaker 1: like he's just got this fascination with Arkansas players. It

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Speaker 1: does not really bear out over the history of his

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Speaker 1: tenure here and around. Will they take John stephen in

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Speaker 1: when he's drafted undrafted free agent? Oh, Grady, by the way,

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Speaker 1: has been suspended three different times and then quit. I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, yeah, yeah, leave the team. More so than

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Speaker 1: there's more than just his taint that's got me saying, yeah, no, thanks, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: he likes to well, okay, I should not say that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say please, no, no, you're gonna leave it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to assassinate a person's character. But he

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Speaker 1: has been on the record of like, hey, I don't

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Speaker 1: want you like to practice, and uh, you know other stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's known to be a bit immature. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's a fair thing to say, though I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Though it's public of opinion. He may have a great

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Speaker 1: credit score. I don't know. And we'll go through one

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Speaker 1: more quick question. Let's try and get through this in

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Speaker 1: the next couple of seconds. So pick your favorite out

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Speaker 1: of these first round, first two round combinations. C J

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Speaker 1: Henderson or kJ Hamler. That's option one. Option two is

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Speaker 1: Calvan Chason and Damon Armatt Arnette. And then you've got

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Speaker 1: Jerry Judy or Curtis Weaver as your third option. Which

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Speaker 1: one are you taking and why I'll go. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Judy and Weaver, and it's just because of Judy

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Speaker 1: because for me, he'll be a top ten player in

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Speaker 1: this class. Weaver is my least favorite of those second

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Speaker 1: round picks, but I think I'm gonna lean into the

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Speaker 1: first round pick there. Although boy Chason and our Nette

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Speaker 1: I would like as well. Who's Henderson with Hamiling's with

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Speaker 1: kJ Hammler, your penns Dave Berner. He can't catch anything,

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Speaker 1: but boy he can get open man, I would take

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Speaker 1: any one of those three. I'm gonna take Judy and

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Speaker 1: Weaver just because of Jerry Judy. Okay, I agree, and

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Speaker 1: I don't hate Curtis Weaver. He just scares me from

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Speaker 1: like the athletic profile standpoint. But I actually think he's

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Speaker 1: kind of a safe pick, to be honest. I know

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Speaker 1: he didn't like go up against the greatest competition at

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Speaker 1: Boise State. He had a surprising three code time. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not as down on Curtis Weaver as the rest

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Speaker 1: of the world. And I honestly kind of I mean,

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Speaker 1: at fifty one, what's the boards dried up? Especially at

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Speaker 1: defensive in I don't have a problem with Curtis Weaver

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Speaker 1: at fifty one. I mean, you have to tell me

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Speaker 1: he's on the board at that time. Let's go Jerry Judy,

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Speaker 1: he and Maury Cooper can both play in the slot,

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Speaker 1: both play outside. Kind of mix it up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: that Alabama connection. You almost go with Judy and Weaver.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jeff, Let's do that. What do you

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Speaker 1: think day now? Boys are not on our side? I

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Speaker 1: guarantee I agree. I think y'all are absolutely nuts. And

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Speaker 1: I say that as somebody who wants the Cowboys to

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Speaker 1: draft a receiver. UW, how do you not take number two?

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Speaker 1: And I like, I get it. I went to LSU

727
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Speaker 1: everybody thinks I'm biased, but you're talking about one of

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Speaker 1: the highest upside prospects in Calevan Chason. You know he

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Speaker 1: could buck Like I completely agree with that, but he

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Speaker 1: also I think he's one of two players that really

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Speaker 1: has potential to like blossom into a routine double digit

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Speaker 1: SAT guy, along with Chase Young obviously, who they don't

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Speaker 1: have a shot at. Um. He doesn't have to start

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Speaker 1: right away because you do have Alden Smith and hopefully

735
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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, but he's got massive potential. And then Damon

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Speaker 1: Arnett is sneaky, you know. I know there's there's questions

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Speaker 1: outside the field to answer with him, but like, if

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Speaker 1: all of that checks out, he's so sneaky good, Like

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Speaker 1: I would feel fantastic drafting him fifty one and you

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Speaker 1: address like our probably the two biggest needs on the

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Speaker 1: team and you can still Bill get your receiver in

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Speaker 1: the third or fourth round. I think that would be

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Speaker 1: a best case scenario. Honestly. The reason I don't appreciate now, Ias,

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Speaker 1: I don't appreciate what you're doing being very disrespectful to

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Speaker 1: Kat and I and calling our character into question. The

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Speaker 1: reason that I don't appreciate it is for me, it's

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Speaker 1: as simple as for me, Jerry Judy's a top ten

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Speaker 1: player and Calevan Chase on somewhere around number twenty for

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Speaker 1: me in this draft. So the difference and that is

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Speaker 1: enough for me to say. And I like Damon Arnette too.

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Speaker 1: I got Damon Arnette as a second round corner. I

752
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Speaker 1: got Weaver as a third round defensive end. But I'll

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Speaker 1: four go the better second round pick for to me,

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Speaker 1: the clearly clearly Dave better first round pick. I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think whenever you look at the first sorry, go

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Speaker 1: for it. No, you go for no? No, no no, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. Now you've already assassinated our character one time.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you double I just when you consider it

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00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: to go back to the twenty seventeen conversation, like were

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00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: they're better players than Taco available? Yeah, but you address

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Speaker 1: the need at the thinnest position, knowing that you can

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Speaker 1: address your need at wide receiver with a deeper position,

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Speaker 1: like we expect there to be like starter caliber slot

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Speaker 1: receivers available. And you want to do that again. It

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00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: worked last time. They've picked the wrong guy. They could

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Speaker 1: have had TJ. Want to do it again if they

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Speaker 1: had picked t J. Watt we'd be talking about what

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Speaker 1: geniuses they are. Like the strategy, this sound, the team

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Speaker 1: still needs, this team still needs a wide receiver. I

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Speaker 1: understand it if they still need a wide receiver. If

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Speaker 1: they take a wide receiver and one day you're on

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Speaker 1: the Burger team and you're going back, you're a team

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Speaker 1: forty and you're taking it awaying. You mean to tell

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Speaker 1: me that I can address the pass rush and the

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Speaker 1: secondary and then on day two or three I can

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Speaker 1: still find Lynn Bowden. That's fine, That's so easy for me.

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Speaker 1: I'll do that every time. And I like the first

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you a little bit there. Whenever

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Speaker 1: you're talking about team needs and better players. The first

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Speaker 1: I think that would be perfect if Hamler could catch

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Speaker 1: So kind of tease us a little bit in the

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00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: last segment, and we've got some perfect player fits. We've

850
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: talked about the Cowboys at nauseam really since the beginning

851
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: of the show or the beginning of the season, really

852
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: about who could fit in this the Cowboys draft class.

853
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: But we've got some fits for specific players on other

854
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: teams as well. Katie, I know you've got a couple

855
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: of guys that you've had written out as well, and

856
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: you're chomping at the bit to get after it. Yeah,

857
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: let's just start with the idea is just kind of

858
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: getting creative us in our imagination here and find some

859
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: guys who oh that makes a lot of sense. And

860
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but being nabled. When we've talked about

861
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: slot wide receiver, it feels like we've talked about James Prochier,

862
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: Devin Burnet from Texas Appreciation Messing year, and of course

863
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: kJ Hill from Ohio State. So I up those three

864
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: guys into one here. Wasn't those guys be great in

865
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Because if you look at the depth chart

866
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: and the wide receiver situation for Tampa Bay after Mike

867
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: Evans and after Chris Godwin man that underneath guy for

868
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. That safety blanket makes so much sense to me.

869
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? I like it. He's also

870
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: already got his tight ends, and Tom Brady loves him

871
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: some tight ends, So it's gonna be it'll be really interesting.

872
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: As a guy who has said that Tom Brady is

873
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: totally washed and that Bill Belichick is the secret to

874
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: the dynasty, not Brady. They're given Tom everything in the

875
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: world to prove that I'm an idiot, which would not

876
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: be the first time. But yeah, if you tossed one

877
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: of those guys there in the slot on top of Cameron, brad,

878
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: oj Howard and Godwin and Evans's that's scary good. I

879
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: could really need a final nail in the coffin for

880
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: Tom if he fails. Yeah, I completely agree with that.

881
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: But if I could draft one player for Tampa, I

882
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: would probably use that first round pick on McKay Beckton

883
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: if he's there, Like, that's the only thing that's going

884
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: to screw that up for Brady is if he can't

885
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: be protected and Tampa's line is not impressive to me,

886
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: that is what I would be trying to do with

887
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: their first round pick if I were them. Well, to

888
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: be fair, Katie's three names that he threw out there.

889
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: None of those guys are really first round talents. No, no

890
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: no kJ Hill, no fourth round. No. Day's just trying

891
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: to go after people. I'm just saying, well, here, how

892
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: about this in the first round and Prochet in the

893
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth? Hell yeah, let's go. Yeah. I like

894
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: that at fourteen, you're gonna go offensive tackle. Whether it's

895
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: Beckton or Worse or whoever's there, Andrew Thomas, it doesn't matter.

896
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: There's a slew of tackles that you could have in

897
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: the first fifteen picks, and with Tampa Bay being at fourteen,

898
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: you could go offensive tackle. This is a name. It's

899
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: funny that you you you started off with this one, Katie,

900
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: because I had a name for Tampa Bay too. How

901
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: about Jonathan Taylor in the second round at forty five.

902
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: If he's there at forty five, the Wisconsin running back,

903
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: comparing him not only with a new offensive tackle, with

904
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: the weapons they already have in the wide receiving corps.

905
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: And then you add a slot guy with Tom Brady.

906
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, your team forty five Burger and

907
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: you're you're moving things down to Tampa Bay with when

908
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: you're cooking with gas. Yeah, I think some of those

909
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: running backs for sure makes sense for Tampa Bay. I

910
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: don't know how much they're gonna rely on Ronald Jones

911
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: again from USC and that's Jeff's guy, but thinks that's dude,

912
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: that's a draft with like I feel bad about. I

913
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: thought Ronald Jones was great. I'm I would not working

914
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: out in Tampa. He went to a place that didn't

915
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: have an offensive line though, you know that's that does matter.

916
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: You know, where are your drafting matters. I think I've

917
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: got Clyde Edwards, Hilaria Fabellish here. To Kansas City that

918
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: would be fun, But to Tampa Bay he would be

919
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: fun as well. I think that makes a lot of

920
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: sense if he's on the board at forty five, and

921
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that he will be, but if he

922
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: is on the board at forty five, that's another match fit.

923
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of what this segment's all about, finding magical fits.

924
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: I want to throw this one out there for you guys, Jeff,

925
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: I'll rope you into the mix here. How about Michael

926
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: Pittman to Baltimore? They got Marquis Brown. Then after that

927
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: it's Miles Boykin, Lily Sneidh, Michael Pittman, a little bigger

928
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: body guy, reliable guy for Lamar Jackson, along with Hollywood Brown.

929
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: What do you think about that fit? I think it's great.

930
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: I think Michael Pittman with anyone's a great fit. Though,

931
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: because for me, let me double check that I'm not

932
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: lying to you, Jeff, I got Stones. Michael Pittman's top

933
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: five receiver in this class for me, So, um, yeah,

934
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: Baltimore would be fun to add the big body. I'm

935
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: not gonna call him possession receiver because he's better than that.

936
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: To add that's what I've got with the tight ends. Yeah,

937
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: I do think that's a fun fit. You know who

938
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: else might be fun in Baltimore? What about Laviska Chenault? Yeah?

939
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: I think he would be extremely fun. Yes, where you're

940
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: just had bits right, you got your deep threat, you

941
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: got tight ends, your quarterbacks running, You're handing off to

942
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: this guy and then oh look, one of the maybe

943
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: the best guy with the bald his hands in the

944
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: entire class is now my jet sweep and screen. And

945
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: that would be a really fun fit to me. How

946
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: about this will run here to the twenties. Jeff Gladney

947
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: f TCU to Minnesota. They're relying on Mike Cues a lot,

948
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Holton Hill. We know Mike Zimber loves his defensive backs.

949
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladney to Minnesota with one of their picks in

950
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: the twenties. They pick at twenty two and twenty five,

951
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: and I feel like they're probably gonna think wide receiver

952
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: maybe Edges in there in their mixed but they needed

953
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: some cover guys too. I think Gladney that's a pretty

954
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: good spot for him, and he's my cornerback too. I

955
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: know it's not that way for everyone else, but I

956
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: think that makes a lot of sense in the twenties.

957
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: I don't think Trevon Diggs is a good fit there,

958
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: given the Stefan asked his way out of town. That

959
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: just seems like one of the weird absolutely written in stone,

960
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: like the Vikings have basically thrown off all of their

961
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: old quarterbacks, and zimmer loves drafting cornerbacks anyway, like he's

962
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: done it in most of his drafts in Minnesota. The

963
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: fact that they have two first round picks, like I

964
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: have to believe one of them is going to be

965
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: a cornerback at some sort. I don't love the player

966
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: that I'm about to talk about, But the Packers at

967
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: thirty need inside linebacker help amidst a million other things.

968
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: But I don't see Patrick Queen or Kenneth Murray being

969
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 1: there at thirty. So with Blake Martinez from Stanford leaving

970
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: to go to the Giants, I've got Evan Weaver of California,

971
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: a day three type guy. Maybe he ends up having

972
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: to go around three or four. Evan Weaver of California

973
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: to the Packers for the inside linebackers, they don't get

974
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: their choice of Murray or Queen. I misheard you and

975
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: thought you were doing that in the first round and

976
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: I was about to lose my mind. Oh okay, no

977
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: later on. Just a good fit. Yeah, Henry Ruggs did

978
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: Denver working opposite of Courtland Sutton. Oh, that would be nice.

979
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: You drew back a little bit of a target the

980
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: throw too great? Drew Luck. Okay, So that's that's the

981
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: thing that that falls faster than anything else this year,

982
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: right is Drew Luck? Yes? Why would you put that

983
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: on him? He was great? All evidence points to greatness

984
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL so far, Gardner Minshire was great for

985
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: three weeks too. We're banking on him, man, that's their guy.

986
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: They're tanking Baltimore. Hey, I know we already did Baltimore,

987
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: but doesn't Baltimore also seemed like the kind of place

988
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: where somebody like, let's say, either in the first round

989
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: Zach Bond or in the second round Josh Ucci out

990
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: of Michigan, Like that's where your kind of hybrid guy

991
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: ends up getting twelve sacks a year is in Baltimore. Yes, yeah,

992
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: I feel like Baltimore just collects promising pastors and developed them,

993
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: like year in and year out. They don't always work

994
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: out there. I mean Tim Williams didn't really hasn't done much. Yeah. Well,

995
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: and Zach Bond fell to twenty eight whenever we were

996
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: doing our mock draft a couple of weeks ago. So

997
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: I think it's not out of the question that he

998
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: would be there at twenty eight. And they may stock

999
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: by all a couple of stat of a couple of

1000
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: kind of twinter linebacker edge rushers. I have two more,

1001
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: I'll be quick. One has cowboy ramifications. C. J. Henderson

1002
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. If you look at it, that Patrick

1003
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: Peterson contracts about to come up, and it's you know,

1004
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: probably time or getting cohost to tend to move on

1005
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: from him. Anyways, top ten, if that's where Henderson's gonna go,

1006
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: I think that's the spot. I think, you know, Jacksonville

1007
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: might make sense there as well, but I think the

1008
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals and CJ. Henderson could make a lot of sense,

1009
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: and maybe they attack offensive line later on in the draft.

1010
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's other one. No, no, the last one.

1011
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: Do the last one? Sorry? Well, my other one is

1012
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: we were talking about him in the top twenty and

1013
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: then horrible combine. The Giants are gonna pick again in

1014
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: the second round, right pretty quickly. Aj Eponessa from Iowa,

1015
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense in New York.

1016
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: I think that makes a ton of sense because most

1017
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: likely what are they going to go in the first round.

1018
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna go probably offensive line, maybe pick up a

1019
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: player that's not an edge rusher overall. And then you

1020
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: add a guy who had some high expectations going into

1021
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: the season and then kind of laid it, laid it

1022
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: on the floor whenever he comes to the NFL combine

1023
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: and the measurables that he put up. But I like

1024
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: that Actually, Katie, whenever you're talking about edge rusher and

1025
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: epina for the Giant, that's an interesting The Cardinals pick

1026
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: is interesting to me. I just actually yesterday I finished

1027
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: something I'm working on for the site. I redrafted the

1028
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: twenty eleven NFL draft just to see, I mean, it

1029
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: was such a stacked draft and just to kind of

1030
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: see how you would reevaluate it. And Patrick Peterson is

1031
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: a perfect quarillary, Like he's been a great player, arguably

1032
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: like Hall of Fame level, but it's hard to lift

1033
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: a team from the cornerback position when you don't have

1034
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: that much help. I actually, in a redraft, I had

1035
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith going top five to the Cardinals to help

1036
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: their quarter I'm just saying it makes a lot wh

1037
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't you rig it for the Cowboys because that's not

1038
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: the point of the exercise, Jeffrey, But yeah, jeff it

1039
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: just makes so much sense to help Kyler Murray with

1040
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle rather. I mean, not that C. J.

1041
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: Henderson is in the hell of a player, but like,

1042
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is what's going to make that team good,

1043
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: and so I'm trying to give him as much help

1044
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: as possible. If it's me forty Burgers, take another receiver.

1045
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: Now I've got I've gotta receive a perfect fit. I've

1046
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: got a receiver for a perfect thick. How about this

1047
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: you talked about the pick thirty for the Packers. How

1048
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: about throwing Jalen Rager in there and letting Aaron Rodgers

1049
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: throw to Jalen Raiger out of the slot and have

1050
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: a burner who can actually catch the football as opposed

1051
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: to kJ Hamler. And then another one that I had

1052
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: was Josh Jones, the offensive tackle out of Houston, going

1053
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles at thirty six early in the second round.

1054
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: You talk about a team that's most likely gonna snag

1055
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback in the first round, then you're gonna

1056
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: have to protect them, and why not do it with

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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some good offensive tackles in the mix.

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Speaker 1: And while we're on that page, Kyla, I'll tell this

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Speaker 1: buddy Dane Now last week. Yeah, the Browns and Ezra Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: So you would have a Cleveland and Cleveland situation. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's pretty good fit that you kind of have to do.

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Speaker 1: They really don't have a choice like that. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well there's a in there, a DJ Dallas that we

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Speaker 1: could potentially pick up in Miami. That could be he's

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Speaker 1: a good your little player. There's there's Dallas. Is fun

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Speaker 1: is there? Let's go sell some jerseys. Let's put those together.

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Speaker 1: How about that. We're already doing that. We gave a

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Speaker 1: lineback rick contract. Wow, that was a low blow, but

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it here for the Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 1: Com Draft show. One. One note to end on do

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Speaker 1: you want to thank you for joining us from your

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Speaker 1: respective quarantine spots. Be sure to stay safe out there.

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Speaker 1: Think all of those around you whenever it comes to

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Speaker 1: service workers, nurses, doctors. Thank you all for continuing to

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Speaker 1: fight this battle. And we'll do our part by staying

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Speaker 1: home and staying quarantine. But that's gonna do it here

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Speaker 1: for this week. Be sure to join us again next

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Speaker 1: Thursday at eleven o'clock. We've got some fun things coming

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Speaker 1: up over the next couple of weeks. As we're fourteen

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Speaker 1: days from the NFL draft for Jeff Kavanaugh, for Kevin

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Speaker 1: Turner for Dave Hellman. I'm kyl Yeoman saying so long.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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