WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Rapsody 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.279 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:07.200 Fante Come Back. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:18.639 Supreme Supreme, Roll Supreme Supremo, Roll called Supreme Supremo, Roll 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.480 call Supreme Supreme. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.800 Roll God, I don't want to alarm Yeah, or across hysteria. Yeah, 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:32.080 but all the great talents. Yeah, we're born Aquarius Supreme. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:33.760 I forgot my. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:38.520 Supreme role. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.120 My name is Sugar. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:40.760 Yeah. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.120 I love McCoy Tyner Yeah and any rapper. Yeah from 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.920 North Carolina. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:54.880 Supreme Supreme, Roll Suprema, So Supremo roll call. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.760 It's like em yeah and than me. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:58.720 Yeah. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.000 Ain't nobody, Well, it may be rhapsody. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:09.920 WHOA call Supremo Sun Sun Supremo, Roll call Supremo Supremo. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:11.920 Roll they call me rap. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:13.880 Yeah, I'm on this show. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:14.600 Yeah. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:15.920 Freestyle at the top. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:17.760 Yeah, that's all I know. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:26.360 Ro Suprema su su Supremo, Roll call Supreme Supremo, Roll 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:34.520 call Supremo Sun Sun Suprema Roll Suprema Sun Sun Suprema. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.400 Roll Come get it all right, I did it. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.399 Got a little one. That's cute. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.720 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of the nerdiest 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.520 rabbit hole and informative program ever created for music. This 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.400 is Quest Love Supreme. I am quest Love and I 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.520 be sixty three. Shout out to my team Supreme crew, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.000 Sugar Steve, who I think. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.760 Is what five? Ten eleven? 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.000 Exactly? Well, it depends what part of me you're talking. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:11.359 You'd be five hr anyway, and shout out to Laya. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:12.520 What is it? 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:12.919 Five? 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.639 What you about? Five? Eight? 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.560 That's right, alright, that's good question. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.000 I was going to say you more like six feet 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.320 when you rock the stilettos, when Leonard uh, when Leonard 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.320 Kravitz is in proximity of you, are you gonna go 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:32.519 my way? Anyway? Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today, I 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.919 should pretty much have music fans and real hip hop 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:41.480 hits mad excited. Hailing from North Caakalac, she made her 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.679 professional debut on ninth One is Dream Merchant project way 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:50.600 back in like two thousand and seven. That's ever as 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.920 a member of the Koli High Collective and also releasing 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.760 I Can't Forget Buzzworthy mixtapes, she's pretty much been bubbling under, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.480 releasing The Idea of beautif Full in twenty twelve, getting notable 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.040 co signs from like Mac Miller, BJ's Chicago Kid Charles Gambino. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:11.760 Of course, twenty seventeens Lia is Wisdom, Layla's Wisdom, Layales. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.680 I'm sorry, all right, I saw the name and just 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.360 started saying your name like you, Layla's Wisdom with spots 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.839 from k Dot and andest In Pat and someone else 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.440 named black Thought, whoever that is. The new rock Nation 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.680 signee got her first round of Grammy nominations, and of 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:36.280 course we cannot forget twenty nineteen's Eve with an astounding 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:41.200 Metacritics score of ninety. Let me just let you know, medical. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:46.240 Like I use that Metacritic is kind of like it's 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:46.840 an aggregate. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:50.520 It's like rotten tomatoes. So a combination of everyone who's 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.000 reviewed your product. Wow, you get a basically a score. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.880 So to get ninety is that's some acclaimed that shit. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.680 Like you know, I prayed just to get eighties, like 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.800 seventy five to eighties. She's getting straight out, she's getting straight. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.440 A's over here, you know, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:14.200 to Quest Love Supreme, the one and only Rhapsody here. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.960 You're lad for yourself too, because I want to, I 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:17.560 want I want to. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:24.320 Huge in the Bengals three right, see they running sixt deep. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.360 Gold Bot straight up from the fingers to the neck. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:30.200 You know what it is. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.800 You were telling us where your shine came from. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.320 Oh yeah, yeah yeah, so I actually, you. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.480 Know what, I like the return. I feel like it's 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.479 going to be a righteous return to gold. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:41.680 Yeah. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:42.520 That's something that. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.200 I was not able to experience as a kid. I 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:47.640 was in the plastic phase. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:52.400 Of like mcdowia African Medallion, stop Watch. Oh yeah, I 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:52.799 was allowed. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.040 I wasn't allowed to have anything back. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.520 I have to stop Watch because I grew up in 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.720 the era where they would snatch your snatch, your snatch everything, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.960 you your sneakers. I couldn't wear Jordan's nothing, hip hoppy, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.840 no king gold, no nothing, So that's real. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.200 But I could get a stop Watch. 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.280 Yeah, nobody didn't want that. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.640 So where did you? Where did you? 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:14.960 I've always like Gold. I mean I went through the 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.120 Wood Medallion stage. I went through that, you know, Zoo Nation, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.479 African Pictic. But I've always been a fan of Gold. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.200 I just actually loved Rock Nation. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:24.560 And one of the security. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.520 Guards was like, the history behind gold and Egypt was 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.280 that the kings who loved their wives would adorn them 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.400 and all this gold so you always see the women wearing. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:39.280 Mad Yes, that kind of was my first time in 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:39.760 rock Nation. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.400 They were just having dice games and. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.520 Day, okay, I like. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.159 Your gold combo because it's like you got the banks 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:50.640 on the chest, but then you were telling me you 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.640 got the thrift on the arms. But it's all shining 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.599 at the same level of shin nasty. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.719 One of these chest joints is thrifty. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.000 That what sot reputee? 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.720 You know what I mean? 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.800 As far as no, no, not you, I'm like, as 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:05.720 far as I. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:10.159 Put it in could, I'm always rock fake goal like that, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.120 I'm keeping with you. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.920 There you go, this this never this never TD might 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.560 be real. Just the Marry J. Blige and uh some collection. 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:19.880 There's a Mary J. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.159 Yeah, she did a collaboration with. 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:27.400 L Rife Samon. So this is the Sister Love m 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.240 G m j B collection. It's right here. 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.080 And yeah they got this and they got the double 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.440 never TD ear rings. I got those. I got that 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:36.560 fire Google. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.400 She's literally googling can we finish the episode? 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:41.800 Sister Love m j. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.160 B bringing out the credit card right now? 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.239 I just want to get his sister some live black business. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.240 We got that, we got that all right, So where 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.680 I start with every episode of Quest Love Supreme, of which, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.400 like I'm really interested in how your creativity has evolved 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.839 throughout the years, I always start with the question is 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.000 where were you born? 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.160 Oh? 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.520 I was born in Whilson, North Carolina. It's a small 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.760 city in the eastern part of North Carolina. But I 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.320 grew up thirty mention from there in snow Hill, North Carolina. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.480 And that's an even smallest city, population two thousand. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.040 Like, that's where I was born, around a lot. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.280 Of woods and fields and you know, going to the 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.160 grocery store with no shoes on, like playing with your 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.160 cousins all day in the dirt. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.160 You know, your shooters out there. You a shoot. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.880 I shot B B gun. That's about it. You know, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.480 I ain't doing nothing more than that. But yeah, that's 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.120 that's how I grew up. I didn't go to my 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.880 first hip hop concert until maybe I was thirteen. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.840 Montel Jordan does that count? 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.360 So I went on the bill. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.239 I think that he was the only rapper. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.360 Bro that's Williams. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.280 Trying to play my faith. This is how we do. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.040 It's funny. It's funny. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:03.160 You mentioned that I have a friend who is celebrating 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.400 like a milestone birthday. So he's trying to have like 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.680 a ninety steam rap party and have like his rap 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.120 favorites and he's really in the nineties R and B, 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.239 and he wants to get the most bang for his buck. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.160 The thing is is that Montel, even though he's had 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.040 other hits, you know, this is how we do. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.800 It's kind of the Black national anthem. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.120 It is, so to speak. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.520 It's transformed too. It's like everybody's now. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.560 But that's the thing. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.880 But the problem is is I'm trying to push him 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.640 to get He can either get Montel Jordan or he 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.720 could get Drew Hill. And I told him he Drew Hill, 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.959 You'll least get four hits. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:46.160 At least the song at least bro so you you 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:47.160 got to well. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:52.600 They're the same price, Drew Hill, what are we talking about? 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:53.560 Question? 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:55.959 I'm sorry, that's next. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:09:01.079 That's next somebody? Yes, and uh there's two. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.680 Pieces like pieces calm girl. I don't forget what that's called. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.839 Right, But at least he's looking at me like, what 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.360 the fuck with you? Hill? You at least get four 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:12.680 hits and the thongs? 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:13.559 Yes, right? 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.480 And with Montel, you get that one. This is how 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.480 we do it, even though there's been other hits. You know, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.360 he's had other top ten hits. I'm not trying and 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:27.480 the talk show, Yes, no, that's Montel Williams. And so 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.000 let's let's not totally rabbit hole off the you know, 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.120 the conversation. What I want to know is okay for 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:40.120 us as snotty Northerners that only come on. Now, let's 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.400 keep it one hundred. We know, we know, we know 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.600 like four cities. No, my family is from Greensboro. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.680 Yeah, y'all know Charlotte, Greensboro rally probably Now all. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.360 My family's from Greensboro. But that's all I know. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.320 And I know like in Greensboro not to talk to 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.760 any woman because I've heard that at least one out 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.600 of the before black women in that city is my cousin. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.920 Where you're going, We don't want to get into the 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.200 yeah yeah. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.400 Yeah, yeah, no, no not at all. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.560 So like what major city are you was? It was 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.160 snow you said, snow Hill. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.400 Snow Hill. You're not going to know. The closest rally 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:18.600 rally is an hour away. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:23.280 Really, that's the that's the one that's maybe Fayettville, maybe, Yeah, 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.440 that's like an hour and a half where j Cole 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:25.880 is from. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.760 So you're saying that it's more so you're saying that 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.959 the environment was more backwoodsy. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.319 Yeah, definitely like this, it was closer to. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:39.200 My Daughters of the Dust or like, I just want. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.880 To know the reference because I'm that's dope. That's dope. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.600 That was dope reference with Darters of the Dust. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.440 No, well, I'm just saying that in terms of Okay, 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.520 there's when when slavery. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:50.720 And the gullers where you're going. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.600 Yeah, when slavery was ended, there's some freed Africans that 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:59.559 decided to continue the tradition of of their life as 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.200 they knew it in Africa by living off in the 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:07.119 far woods. Like really, my my peeps come from Mobile, Alabama. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.199 So they started Africa Town and practice Yorba religion and 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.600 all that stuff. But they did that also gees in 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.040 North Carolina and whatnot. So I was trying to is 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:19.440 a movie. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.200 Yes, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, I know we need 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:23.960 that deep bro. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.920 Okay, because I don't do me like that. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.440 Come on, look at me, Look how I'm dressed, baby, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:32.480 I need that far. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:43.600 I mean they had a corner store, Okay, I see 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.400 I see you got to. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.599 Ask her about the second hip hop show. I'm gonta 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:49.280 redeem herself. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.280 How big was your household? 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:51.360 Like? 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.160 Are you the only child or. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.160 I'm one of five, three older sisters, one younger brother. 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.200 Me and my brother are a year apart. I'm I'm 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.440 the knee baby, which is next to last. That's that's 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.720 some country ship. Yeah, knee baby, so I'm next to last. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.840 So yeah, for sure. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.760 Are you the over achiever of the family. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.640 I think we all over achievers. I'm probably second in 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:20.040 line though, the middle child. My sister Amanda, she was valedictorian. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.120 You know, she just did everything right. But I I 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.000 am the overachiever now because. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:29.920 I always feel like the middle child or the indistinguishable. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:33.000 I'm the last. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:34.839 Yeah, I'm the last girl. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.160 But all of us did good, like I could say 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.240 my parents did well. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:40.200 Yes they did. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.480 Was your first musical memory that concert? No, what was 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:45.280 your first musical? 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:50.000 My first musical memory was Michael Jackson. That's the oh 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:56.080 for like oh music period period is Michael Jackson. So 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.200 that's what had me hooked from the jump, Like man 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.880 in the mirror, the girl is my all of that, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.280 Like me and my dad would sit up on like 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.080 Saturday mornings and watch video soul tape them on VHS 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.040 and you know we watch them again during the week. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.200 Yes, I do that. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.440 I watch your MTV raps like those are my biggest memories. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.360 But it all started with like R and B and 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.480 soul music. So Saturday mornings cleaning up, you know, my 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.040 mom's playing Tina Turner. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.880 Patty the Bell. My dad is a huge Luther. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:27.240 Vandrass fan, so I've heard every Luther Vandrass song that 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.320 there is known to man. But those are my first 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.800 musical memories. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.280 Do you remember the first album that you purchased that 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.480 not just had in the house, but the album that 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.440 you wanted was the first album you purchased. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.640 The first one I purchased was Aliyah's first album, He 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.000 Ain't Number the Number. The first album that I owned 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.839 was Warren G's Regulate, but my aunt had to get 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.200 it for me because of that sticker. My parents were 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.800 not going for that. I beg her she got it 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.280 for me. That was the first album that I had. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.360 But the one I bought was Aaliyah It's. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:06.280 Called Rap Contraband. When I was young, I couldn't have 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.640 the first UTFO album. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:13.800 There was there wasn't even that's crazy. It's a funny thing. 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.240 The funny thing was there was no cursing on it. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.560 But on one. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.520 Of those on rox Sannes version of Roxanne rox Sand 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.720 which is like buried on SIDEB, she said like one 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.960 term like all you received was a kick in the ass. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:29.960 And then my dad like just took the tape out 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:30.960 and destroyed the tape. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.239 So I got one of those the tape I destroyed 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.200 which one It wasn't even like a bigger artist, was 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.440 like a local group that I got from fourth grade. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:41.840 And the look was like a. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.200 Tisket, a task and a condiment a basket. My mama 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:46.960 came through that door so fast. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:48.600 Fourth grade. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.240 Yah, it was a white tape with black letters. Look, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.800 I ain't think I was a boy. I survived that day. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.320 So was it a religious house hold? 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.720 Or I grew up with Jehovah's witness So my mom 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:03.680 is Jehovah's witness. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.359 My dad was non denominational. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:10.080 Still no, no, no, I'm uh inactive. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.640 Is I'm more spiritual than religious? 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:14.920 That's my line? 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.200 So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:22.120 Wow so uh man mm hmm no, no, no, but that's 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.680 always I find it that those who are in the 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.760 entertainment business that I have to sort of pass through 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.600 the portals of especially with Jehovah's. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.000 Them know right, like have you found like your brothers 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.600 and sisters? And because Jill used to be a Jill 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.600 Scott Scott. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.840 Jill Scott general sound way with T D E. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:49.680 Wow, yeah, I know. Michael Jackson started as friends. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:56.040 Joahill got some nice you know, spoke in my circles. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:58.120 Come over to this side. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.360 Wait, when's the last time you went to Kingdom? 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:01.080 Go on? 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.600 Bro, No, no, no, I'm only asking. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.440 Because past needs everything full. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.760 I've never spoken to someone what goes on, so I 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.800 know that most like the Black of course with Black 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.280 Church experiences and Baptist Church is like. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:24.960 Yeah but more conservative and Kingdom Hall Kingdom Halls. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:25.320 It was. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.520 It was honestly, it was like Bible school, like you 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.880 know you have you know of the watch Tower and 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.800 the ways when we come to the paper whatever. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.400 Yeah, So a lot of times they'll give you Bible readings. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.600 You go home, you go through the Bible, find the 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.160 verses they give you the watch Tower. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.360 They'll have paragraphs that pertain to a certain topic, whether 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.840 it's life after death or what do you do about 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.520 blood transfusions? And read through the paragraphs. At the end 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.720 they have questions. You go find the Bible verses and 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.320 answer them. And the next day, you know, they'll have 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.680 a main person that gives a talk, but they're like 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.480 the preacher, but we call it given a talk. And 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.160 then the second an hour you answer the questions as 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.320 a group and then you sing hymns, yeah, but no clapping, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.520 sing so the whole. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:14.400 Like that. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.440 You know, you're just from behind me of when we 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:22.320 did the Prince episode. His assistant has a really hilarys 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:28.280 story of Prince Dragon to Kingdom Hall and she was 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.119 shocked that she thought it was gonna be like a 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:35.400 black again a black Southern gospel hooting and hollering music thing, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.639 and you know, the music was very proper, and you know, 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.760 and Prince was singing it and she just couldn't. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:45.119 She was like, who are you? Like? What were you doing? 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.960 So you're you said that Montel was your first How 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.160 old were you when we went to this Montell Jordan concert? 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.879 I was in seventh grade, so that it was Montel 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:53.600 Jordan boys. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.520 To me, that was the first concert I went to 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.560 the first real hip hop concert I went to. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.200 I was in college. I don't remember. It might have 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:04.640 been common common. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.160 Was Yeah, where did you go to college? 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.919 North Carolina State University. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:14.320 Yeah, that's that's kind of the Yeah, I'll say that 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.400 on the East coast, at least down south, at least 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:24.040 like North Carolina was definitely a common no pun intended central. Yeah, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.359 there's at least five or six college stops that you 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.560 can make down Oh wait, I'm about to tell you 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.280 a story, like there's one time when I met a 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:35.640 ninth Wonder and this band I forget their name, oh 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.040 Little Brother, Yeah, I forgot. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.040 I have heard that story. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.480 Yes, yep, thank God for that rain storm. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.920 I want to well, I mean the show was outdoors, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.639 so it was like an electric electric storm. So we 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.480 only did like one song, and I felt bad for 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.399 everyone that like stood out there to watch it. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:57.320 So, like, yo, who was Carolina hip hop before Little Brother. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:58.800 Before a Little Brother? 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.760 Yeah? 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.840 But even then, that's just like, were there any to 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:06.520 your knowledge? 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:07.440 Was there anyone? 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.840 It's weird that Okay, it's weird that you're asking that 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:16.000 because I know that in ninety seven ninety eight, ninety 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:22.840 seven ninety eight, there was a major migration of New York. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.520 Rappers, right school rappers. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.600 That moved down there. I know that special Edge, Specialleed 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:28.080 was early. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.000 Big Daddy came as early, and they were telling us, 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.480 you know back then, like yo, y'all better hurry down 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.600 and get some property before gentrification. Like you could you 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:43.480 could buy like a twelve room mansion with like marble floors, 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:47.760 Like you could get some scarface property maybe. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.600 Like yeah, for like cheap to them. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.200 You know, Madland? 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.199 Is it that way now? Or has gentrification caught up? 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.200 And I mean it's it's still pretty affordable. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.399 We're growing like rapidly, so downtown it might get a 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.760 little pricey, but compared to up here, is still cheap. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.760 Now what city do you live in now? 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:08.480 I live in Raleigh? 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:09.919 So are you? 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.240 And you consider that home? That's where you would like 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:14.679 to stay? 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.840 I wanted to say, is that where you want to die? 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.960 Well, but that's where you want to settle down? 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.800 Settle down is a better word. Yes, I would. 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.720 I would like to settle down North Carolina, but I 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.479 definitely want to move. I've been there my whole life, 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.199 Like I want to live in New York. I want 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.399 to experience l a like maybe go to Africa for 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:37.640 a little bit. Who knows, you. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:38.760 Know, you haven't done it yet. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.879 I'm found South South Africa. If I could take all 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.080 my family there, I moved there. 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:44.680 You seem like the type that would circle back and 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.160 reinvest in whatever Carolina has going on. 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.919 Oh definitely, definitely that's home always. So you got to 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:51.720 reinvest in home. 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.960 What was your come to Jesus moment as far as. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:09.000 Knowing that you had something, as far as love for 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.760 hip hop culture, like this is what I want to do. 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:16.840 Oh I felt like that was early, like like I 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.400 was around ten or eleven, Like I fell in love 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.760 with it when I saw EMC Light's Poor Georgie video. 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.160 So that's the first time, like I saw a female 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:30.840 doing it and it's just like yo, that video cool. 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.800 So that that was the first time I was like, Wow, 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.520 what is this? And then you know, you you get 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.800 more into it, you know, listening to Warren G. Like 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:45.199 I said, uh Aliah's hip Hop Flavor Style, Queen Latifa, 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.360 then you know, I listened to Jay's Reasonable Doubt. 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.960 But it was Lauren Hill that really you locked me in. 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:50.760 I saw the food. 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.040 The food is a score. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:53.600 I knew what I wanted to do. 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:54.960 Then I saw that you said. 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:56.800 It's funny always want to ask people because you said 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:58.080 that the score was your ship. 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:04.080 Nobody ever says anything. I'll blunt it. 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.040 The vocal the remix rock. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.720 Okay, here's a little one. 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:14.080 In fact, I've heard bln on reality and its entirety. 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.040 Of course, I couldn't get through it, not so much. 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:20.879 You know, I ain't mad at you. 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.160 No, no, no, it wasn't no, no, no, it was which one 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.359 was that love? All right, I'm gonna tell you a 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:27.840 little story. 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.679 They were in the way. We weren't We weren't all 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.320 right in the beginning, weren't all right? 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.359 Here's the deal. Yes there was. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:41.199 Now that I'm older and wiser, I know not to 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:49.000 react off of ninth hand information. Okay, And this is 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.440 me closer to my fifties than you know. This is 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.480 like if this that Dave Chappelle sketch where like you know, 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:58.600 twenty three year old mirror is talking versus me. Now, 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:06.600 it was just that, Yes, I felt some sort of way. 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.960 It's okay, Like we were on tour together and it 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.560 was a doggy dog territory and they got out the 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.080 gate first. The score came out, and Ate The Score 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.920 came out in like February ninety six, and Hiladelph Half 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:22.920 Life came out in September ninety six. So they got 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:26.480 out the Gate first had three you know, they sold 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.399 eleven million by the time we came out. But I 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.800 was a little salty, he really, I was salty that 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:42.000 their show slowly started to morph into our show, which 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:43.680 you know, when they first came out, it was about 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.320 the ritual with the you know they were doing like 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.240 voodoo rituals and all those things, you know, representing Haiti. 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.680 Yeah, they were lighting candles. 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.840 And something not those direction. What did he saying? But 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.040 it's okay, what are you talking about? 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:55.280 You really? 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.720 You serious? I don't remember I remember them wrapping in Japanese. 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:03.320 No no, no, no, no, oh dude in So here's the deal. 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.960 My last day intern at rough House Records, which coincidentally 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.199 was Santi Cole's first day. Santi was my replacement at 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:18.800 rough House as the intern, and upon leaving, uh, Chris 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.919 Wartz pulled me aside and said, hey, I know you 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.080 guys are having a signing party for you guys signing 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:24.920 to Geffen Records. 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.280 How many acts you happened. We're like, well, we got 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.199 Jay with the Damager Gang Star is going to come 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.760 and perform some local philiacs. We're really full. 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.240 But then I thought he did give me that money 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.320 for our first video. Wow, what's up? And he says, Yo, 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.159 we got a group that's sort of like in the 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.600 lane of you guys, and can they go on and 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.040 do like, you know, like. 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:46.760 Two or three songs whatever? And I was like, okay, okay, 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.280 I did it. Why do you want to add to this? 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.680 I'll just sign. So here's the thing they get. 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.760 They get to sound check, and the first thing I 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:02.040 said was, now, let me let me just preface by 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.960 saying that I was the family DVR. 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:06.880 So it was my job. 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.000 My uncles and my aunts and my mom and everyone 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:15.080 really didn't know much about programming a VCR and someone 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.639 had to program all their stories. So every Friday, I 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.360 had to come and reprogram myself so they go watch 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.399 their stories during their week on VCR. So I was 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.920 very familiar with all the CBS soap operas. So when 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:34.160 she walked in, Oh yeah, at the it's like yo, yeah, 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.960 yeah for Master World terms, and she looked at me 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:44.960 like like I was calling her out, like I think 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.200 she was expecting the sister act too, But I was like, yo, 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.159 Shem was like and looked at me like like I 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.760 was like, I didn't realize that, like I'm about to 0:25:56.760 --> 0:26:01.040 blow your cover that you're a professional soap opera actress. 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:06.399 And so no, and we became cool and we toured together. 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.880 But the thing was then when they first started, they 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.879 were like lighting the stage with stages and and. 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.040 You know, when they finished White Clubs playing a guitar, like. 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.480 I think what we showed them, what we showed them 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.919 was that, oh, you can sort of do like the 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:28.320 karaoke hip hop tribute thing, which you know once we're 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.400 like used to well, I mean the thing it was like, okay, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.240 third verse, we're going to rhyme over this caros one break, 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.320 and the second verse we're going to do a breakover 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.879 this black Moon break and that and when we you know, 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.440 and then as they started doing it was like then 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.640 they called why am I wasting? 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:46.120 All right? Anyway? 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:47.720 Hip hop history, for. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.200 I needed to know why you didn't finish the whole score. 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:58.000 Now anyway, So my point is that I'll say that 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:03.080 in ten ninety six, it was it was tense it 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:07.280 was very tense. So it's hard for me to as 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.160 a listener to listen to that particular album. 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:11.919 Do you find it interesting? 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.600 He still hasn't listened to What I Do because it's nineteen. 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.960 But here's the thing. It's so classic you can't avoid it. 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.360 It's almost like it's almost like Bruce Springsteen is born 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.919 in the USA. All but three songs are singles, so like, 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:25.480 I know it. 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.320 All and that's the whole album. I just know that song. 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.040 No, but you've heard Dancing in the Dark, cover Me 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.680 and I'm on Fire and Glory Days and like it's 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.720 damn near thriller, Like you know all the songs. 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:39.919 Anyway, this is not about me. 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.280 Welcome to quest of Supreme Rhapsody anyway. 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:48.439 So I shot, I will say I love it is. No, well, 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.480 at least I'm man it is. 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.680 That's that's a nice fact. That's a good question at 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:53.080 the time. 0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.359 No, but I know all the songs, like I would 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.399 DJ like the joint the Zealots and. 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.200 I dare you to throw vocab in the next party. 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:03.240 Can be just can me just get it? 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:04.280 I love vocas I know. 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.040 I'm just saying nobody does blunt it. That was back 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:06.880 to my original. 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.439 Oh yeah, no no, but I was saying off that 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:11.800 first record, I loved vocab. 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.040 That was that was my join. That was my join anyway, 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.320 So back to you. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:23.440 So you like Lauren Hell huh, I'm trying to get 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.560 back there. Yeah, she was. 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:27.280 A big influence. 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.480 So what was what was the community like? And the 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:35.719 one question that I'm glad that you kind of what 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.360 I call matrix dodge is, especially with people that are 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.840 not that familiar with you and they're asking you all 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.880 the time like, well, what's it like being a female 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:46.040 and rap and you. 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:50.080 Know, underground d da da da da? But what was 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:52.000 the environment? 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.960 Because I'll be honest with you, by the time that 0:28:56.080 --> 0:29:00.520 like the turn of the the the millennium, uh, by 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.040 the end of the nineties into the early aughts, Like 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:09.959 I personally was rather shocked that there was a boom 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:14.479 bap element or appreciation in North Carolina, which really shocked 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.720 me by when I listened to you know, Little Brother's demo. 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.400 The first time, I was like, wait, where are they're from? 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.720 Yeah, exactly, same thing, what rhapsod he does, same thing. 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.120 I appreci it. I don't even hear. 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.800 Right, So for me, like, how did you. 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:35.480 Avoid what we up north sort of associate most hip 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.800 hop from down South, which I guess you could say 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.480 in the nineties we thought that South was booty music 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:47.080 or that's you know, or the early early stages of trap. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:52.920 Like how did you find a hip hop community that 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:59.960 was you know about the aesthetics of what quote real 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.320 hip hoppers in New York strive to be. 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.320 Well, For one, I think people have a slight misconception 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.960 like if you look at North Carolina, we're more Middle 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.440 East than Deep South, so you. 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.400 Know, yeah, and we're wanted. 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.840 We're probably one of the states that have the most HBCUs. 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.400 So at the time, you got understand, ninety five runs 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.440 straight through North Carolina. So you have a lot of 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.120 artists or New Yorkers that are coming to come to 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.480 school in North Carolina and they're bringing the music with them. 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.320 You have drug dealers coming through, they're bringing the music 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.920 with them. So for us, it's like a melting pot too. 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.600 You got people from Atlanta coming, so, you know, not 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.120 only that's how we got the music, Like, you know, 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.600 there was so much northern influence where we lived, just 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.280 from the colleges and people that came through, you know, 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:48.760 that's a lot of what we listened to. So we 0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.400 listened to boom Back, We listened to a lot of 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.440 New York music, but we all listen to Atlanta. 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.000 We also listen. So when I think about North Carolina, 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.400 it's just a melting pot. 0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.760 Like you know, we didn't have like a true Southern 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.600 identity like a Texas you know, but it's still car culture. 0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.320 So you got to ride the eye music at the 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.080 same time. So I think that's what it was where 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.280 you know, everybody I know, like we wore tims, you 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:11.920 know what I'm saying. 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.920 Like they they had they were the headbands. 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:16.880 They had some you know, people from the South some 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.280 time to get the New York accent. 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:20.760 Like that was heavy where I was from. 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.840 Like my cousin used to call itself nas because you know, 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.480 the music and everybody from the colleges that were in 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.920 there was just heavily influenced on us. 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.200 Speaking of I'm jumping way ahead, but you mentioned car 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:37.200 culture and writing. Indeed, I'm just gonna ask in the 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:41.120 video for Eve to Hush Yep, where did that car 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:41.560 come from? 0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.400 Oh man, we made a call somebody, somebody brought that through. 0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.240 Like that's a rental today. 0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.000 Damn it, wait for that for the video. 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.880 Yeah, the green joint with the mcm insize. Yes, yeah, 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:54.960 Mysa Hill. 0:31:55.120 --> 0:32:00.560 I'm about to say, and she dripped the inside outm 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.480 but somebody they own a car that people use the 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.560 videos and they let us, they let us drip it out. 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.360 Okay, I I thought that was your personal riding. 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:09.520 No, we ain't there yet. 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.720 You know you will be there. 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.800 Let's start with the affirmations, not even goals effects. 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:17.200 But when you get there, you probably won't want the 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.160 car with mcm I don't know. 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.400 That's kind of fire with the mcm cs. 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.200 This, this is give them too much. 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:25.680 Listen. 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.400 This is the lesson that I want anyone listening to 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:33.160 learn for twenty twenty that most of the times we 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.720 come modest and humble, and we need to be We 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:41.600 need to be more about I am as opposed to 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:47.000 I am me and own it, own it instead of 0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.240 you know, one of these days we'll get there. 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.320 But you know this is funny because the three of 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.840 us have that whole twenty four hours between our birthdays. 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.880 So I'm really taking this to heart because I know 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.600 that's who you really are. You're fighting that anyway you 0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.080 know and rhaps you know you're you're born to. 0:32:59.040 --> 0:32:59.880 Wait, why am I fighting? 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:00.200 Day? 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:00.760 I was born? 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.920 No fighting that what you just said is a big 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.520 deal for us. Like we usually aquarium sometimes can be 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.200 like I am when we are dope as fuck instead 0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.640 of being like I am like that's an aquarium things. 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:12.560 Right, That's something I'm working on. 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.960 This, This is what I'm higher vibrations and really owning 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:16.719 and manifest from. 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.280 I am stoned right now. 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:21.760 I am stoned. 0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:22.680 I am. 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:25.480 I am stone. 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.680 So when was the major at the NC State County? 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:30.480 Yes? 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:32.320 Really all right? 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.640 Because you know why? Because I was a mass calm major. 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.040 And I always told like the younger kids when I said, 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:40.840 when you go back, when you go to school, like 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.080 intern with your passion. But do some have some kind 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.320 of business major and learn all the information you know, 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.840 numbers wise and formula wise so you can you are 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:50.360 a business, you need to know how to you know, 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:50.800 run it. 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.600 So yeah, when I get my taxes done, you don't 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.240 know the lank whatever. But I wish I had done 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.200 marketing if I was okay one, I wish I had 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.360 done marketing, but I did it because I was good 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.640 at numbers. My sister went to school for accounting. You know, 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.800 growing up in the South, it's like get a job, 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.400 get married, and get a job like an accountant a doctor. 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.239 So I was like, I'm good with numbers. I'm gonna 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.120 do that. But I'm way more creative than I am 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.239 with numbers. But I didn't figure out that that's not 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.279 what I wanted to do until my junior year. And 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.239 I was trying to transfer to NYU until I saw 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.960 that out of state tuition, so I chese to, I relaxed. 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.680 I real still. 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.360 That one I tried to be a New York College 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.320 student and it wasn't I wasn't too successful. 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.360 You notice the difference between the HPC used tuition and 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.319 then the big school. Well, I'm gonna just be over 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:38.759 here at Mark and State. 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:43.759 Then I don't know some of them HPC, Pricey. 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.480 Well, Spelman's and the leader of the yesuse I went 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.960 to Clark, so they have no more of that. 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.560 Yeah, indeed, I was going to ask Spellman doesn't have 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.320 any more of that C word one hundred million dollar donation. 0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:59.400 I don't know what they did with that money. I 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.040 don't even know her. His wife's name is on the 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:05.600 building anymore. We're talking about. 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:08.920 Yeah we still have doctor. 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:14.960 Okay, I made enough Cosby jokes over the years to 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.920 start now now you can't say. 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:18.480 It the husks. 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:22.560 I know what y'all was talking about. 0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:23.440 I know you didn't. 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.560 What prompted the desire to go to New York? Like, 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.839 what did you So you're saying by your junior year 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.320 you wanted to get more serious about your music career. 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.520 And definitely I didn't know at the time at that 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.200 point or we were. We were just it was more 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.399 h two oh, it was an organization. 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:44.560 Before it was a hip hop group. 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.279 So so explain what was a hip hop organization that 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.759 we started on campus where we we would throw like 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.640 rap battles and free shows and you know, we do fundraisers. 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.080 We did one for J. Dillislopis. 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.359 So it was just something for us to infuse hip 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.200 hop on campus and you get to use all the 0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:06.520 campus you know, speakers and all of that for free. 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:08.200 So you know, that's what it was. 0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.920 So you know, anybody on campus, and we extended to 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.600 the community, could be a part of the organization. But 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.399 you know, there were five of us that just hung 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.520 out more, did music together more, and we ended up 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:21.680 becoming Koli High. 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.320 Okay, that's what that that's how that kind. 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:28.239 Of So Kolia is a collective as opposed to a 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:29.040 group per se. 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.279 Yeah, okay, collective that came. 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.560 Yeah, so how did you grab the attention of. 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.240 Nine Wonder at this time? 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.640 This a summer and h two oh the organization we're 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.640 doing a mixtape, so you know, we got people from 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.880 the campus, people from the community. Everybody does something on 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.760 this particular mixtape. I wrote and recorded my first two songs. 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.200 My best friend knew that, you know, I loved hip hop, 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.120 wanted to rap, so he was just like, yo, just 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:54.839 do it for fun. 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:55.880 Nobody gonna judge you. 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.920 So I do this this these two songs put on 0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.560 the mixtape, and another guy in the organization at the 0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.120 time is shadowing Knife, like he's learning how to lose 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.440 fruity loops and all this. So he's like, well, nine, 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.680 you know, I got this organization, all these kids, do 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.560 you mind coming and talk to us. Knife was like yeah, 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:15.879 So we go to you know, this guy's his name 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.800 is Foolery, who's in Cooley Hot. We went to his house. 0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.560 It was probably like fifteen to twenty of us. Nine 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:26.120 comes at the time. He plays us snippets of the 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.680 Minstrel Show because it's not out yet. Oh, I get 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.520 to hear a genius. He's telling us about you know, 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.160 how he got with Jay and recorded thread like. 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.200 You know, we're just all these kids. 0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.360 It's like campfire, and you know, because he's at the 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.040 time for us, like the biggest thing from North Carolina 0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.960 outside of Pete Popo. And after that, he listens to 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.520 the mixtape top to bottom and when it gets to 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:50.080 my song, it just caught his ear automatic. 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.160 He listened to it probably ten times in a row. 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:55.120 And the song. 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.839 I listened to him was like, bro, the what you heard, 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:03.640 but it's it's called The Life. Yeah, the Life, And 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.479 he was like he looked at everybody and its sound 0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.560 like we got people that are in groups that have 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.960 been doing music for years that you know, got shows 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.840 that are traveling, and he goes, that's your star right there. 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:14.920 Oh. 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.680 I remember him speaking on you early, I mean way 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:23.120 before social media like okay player and like other platforms, 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.520 just texting whatever. That he was like, yo, I found 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:31.279 the one I got. Like he was super early, you know, 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.120 with with with planting the seeds, with with getting your 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:35.920 name out there. 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.560 But I mean at the time, what would you who 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.160 were your your. 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.280 Your idols or at least your the mcs that you 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.320 kind of looked up to as far as like getting 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:50.120 your style from. 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.000 And at that time, like I went, I want. 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.960 To ask, like who are your top five rappers? But 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:55.759 I mean, like just. 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.920 At that like I went through different phases of discovery 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:00.640 just because of who I were. I was from, Like 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.120 being in snow Hill, it wasn't like, you know, like 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:04.279 I said, you can go to a lot of hip 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:05.960 hop shows and we had like a record store on 0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:06.359 the corner. 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:07.279 I could just go get CD. 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.359 So a lot of like hip hop artists I might 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.560 have got laid on like black on both sides. I 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.560 didn't he until I got in college, you know. So 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.680 at this time my phase J is still my favorite rapper. 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.200 But now I'm getting really deep into Most Death and 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.920 I'm listening to Common Resurrections so to lib quality, Like 0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:28.280 I'm really diving into their catalogs and they're my biggest 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.480 influences at this time, you know though growing up, you 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.799 know and still Lauren, I listened to Lauren Clean my 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.759 Teeth for nas Biggie J. But at this time I'm 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.440 really getting into the rocket sound. So that at that point, 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:41.760 that's my biggest influence. 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.640 Okay with what Ninth third, Like, how long was it 0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:50.880 until you two collaborated on his uh his dream merchant? 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:52.120 Yeah yeah, so. 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.840 At the time he said that this was maybe like. 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.920 Volume two, right, volume two, Yeah, seven, I remember that. 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.400 So I met him and he heard those two songs, 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:09.319 like September October of two thousand and five, we did 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:13.160 our first song together maybe like five or six months 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.439 after that, uh tab one in Coolie High hit Ninth 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.520 during Christmas one time He's like nine jokingly throw us 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.880 some beats and he just I am them three beats. 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:23.400 Like Merry Christmas. 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.000 So those were the first songs that I got to 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:30.279 rap over of his. The first then the next song 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.440 where you know, he was like come to the studio. 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.319 Like he always kind of took us under his wing. 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.200 It just be random, like I would be at work 0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.239 at foot Action and I get a text like yo, 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:39.960 Ninth told us to pull up at the studio just 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:40.520 out the blue. 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.480 So I'm just I'm like, bass, I gotta go, Like 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.240 straight up. I was like I gotta go, and they they. 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.799 Were like so cool and supportive of that heard you 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.440 before they knew what out. 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.520 I was a good worker. I was so good weird 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:54.520 they couldn't. 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:58.480 Even front not inup. You remember Carmichael's story about for 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:04.600 that she was completely from North Carolina. His people were 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.200 not to see his potential. 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:07.279 Guess he wasn't. 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:12.120 I was expecting your story to go a whole another way. Yeah, 0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:16.759 so you're was returning the Big Girl, your first mix, 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:17.920 your first solo. 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.239 First solo project. Okay, this summer January twenty ten. 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.680 Okay, yep, So how long did that take to formulate 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.520 and put together and execute? 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.320 Let me see, I signed with nine in two thousand 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.640 and eight, two thousand and nine, and I worked and worked, 0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.520 so we probably worked. I just was recording songs. I 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.000 don't think it was like I'm doing a project. I 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.560 was just recording songs. And I probably recorded songs for 0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.440 two years. So we worked on it for two years, 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.400 just trying to get my cadence. I still had so 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.680 much to learn, like I go back, like tone of 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:56.160 my voice, inflections, keeping a consistent cadence, or knowing when 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:57.520 to switch it in the right spot. 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.720 How is he as a coach great? 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.080 Like night? 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.240 People gotta understand before Knife wanted to be a producer. 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.759 He wanted to be a teacher, so he's automatically just 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.920 still super patient. So he was super patient with me. 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.120 I would get more frustrated with myself than he would. 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.560 So he's a great teacher. Like the way he explained 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:22.560 things and broke things down and you know, allowed you, 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.200 you know, to figure it out too, Like I didn't 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.960 have to be perfect, but he saw enough growth was like, okay, 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:29.920 we could put out your first mixtape and just keep 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.719 building on it, Like great teacher, phenomenal. 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.200 Did you get to be in the studio and make 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.080 some of these songs with folks in the studio? Was 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.799 everybody like sending, oh no, you got it, Like you 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.840 gotta understand. Like when Knife creates, he likes people and 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.920 energy around him. So and at the time, the studio 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.680 is on North Carolina Central's campus, so it's open door, 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:51.759 so you might walk in some days it might be 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:55.279 twenty thirty people in there, and so like it was 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.440 so much pressure for me because I'm the opposite when 0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.560 I create. You know, now I'm more about to ride 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:01.240 around anybody. 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:02.879 But at that time, like trying to figure it out 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.719 and not being confident you step in the booth and 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.040 it's twenty people looking at you like what you're about 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:09.040 to do, and. 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.600 Then you know you're doing it and it ain't all 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:11.200 the way right. 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.080 So he keeps stopping you, trying to coach you, and 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.960 it's just like I'm going about to go. 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.719 Crazy, and you folks like you got to be in 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.040 the studio with Rod Digga, like Matt Miller. 0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:24.239 Rod Digga, Jean Gray came and worked on I think 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.200 they were trying to work on Phoenix at the time. 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.960 I was there when Wile and Knife were working on 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.680 Back to the feature. Big Sean came through. He and 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.400 Knife were working on some joints. 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:36.560 What was it like working with Mac Miller? 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.720 And oh that was that was dope. That was easy. 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:40.279 That was fun. 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.360 Not Mac pulled up. I don't even remember what year was, 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.759 might have been like twenty eleven. He was coming to 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.640 see ninth or whatever and just hey, you've met Mac. 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:52.880 It's like, you know, how. 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:57.239 Open and yeah, chill, his his spirit is so you know, 0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.840 he heard like some songs. He was like, Yo, you're dope. 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.239 He was like, let's do some joints. Like it's just 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.040 that easy. Like you know, so when. 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.640 You collaborate with artists. Is it more just like send 0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.799 me a sixteen or like or do you work in 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.400 real time with them? Sometimes? 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.240 And it's different. 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:17.480 Earlier on it was just like, yo, just send me 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.279 some sixteens cause at the time I'm just trying to 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:23.239 prove I could rap. Now now it's different, like for 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.000 me to even reach out, I got to hear you 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.400 on the song. It don't even matter what your celebrity is. 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.840 If I don't hear you, like it could be a 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.759 new artist if I hear their voice, Oh, they be 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.560 dope on this and I'm calling you so it's gotta 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.960 fit right. A lot of times, you know, I tell 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.680 them what the concept is. But you know, I don't 0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:42.560 like to box people in because I want people to 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.400 be as creative as they want to be. So in 0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.080 the same way, Kendrick called me and told me, like, Yo, 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.680 this song is about complexion. You know, you know how 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:55.680 it goes, but boom, then I'm not trying to pigeonhole you. 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.600 So that's what it is for me. I like people 0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.759 to be able to create how they create. And if 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.799 it he's tweaking and we'll work on it, or we're 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.040 just flipping and turn into something else, put a different 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:05.640 beat on it and make it a new song. 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.440 But that's how we that's how I create. 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.799 It's hard to say that's my favorite Rhapsody verse, but 0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.560 damn that verse, that complexion. 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.120 Oh thank you? 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.480 Awesome. Can I just ask one more question because you 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:19.400 were talking about. 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:20.040 It's your shoe too? 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:21.120 Oh thank you. 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.680 I don't want to fast forward to eve or anything, 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.080 but I just want to fast forward for a minute 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.000 on the subject. Because on that subject, how do you 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:31.759 propose to Queen Latifa, who doesn't do features like that? 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:33.879 Time out? How did you get that verse out? 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:35.160 That's what I. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:43.920 Don't want to sell short. I'm not how did you 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:44.680 get that verse out? 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:47.839 But we just pulled up to a creer. We worked 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:48.000 on it. 0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.920 That she killed, that didn't she. 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.520 I wasn't expecting that. 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.280 I thought, all right, when I first heard it, I thought, Okay, 0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:58.680 she's going to sing the hook. 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.520 Or something a lot. 0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.040 And then when she started spinning, I was like, oh wait, 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:07.640 is Raps changing up? You know, because I'm similar, Like 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:14.200 we had a situation where demoed Big Daddy Kane and 0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.640 and instead wound up doing it himself. So at first 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.960 I thought that's what you you were headed to do. 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:25.360 And I was like, oh, ship, like he still has it? 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.440 I mean when the last time we've heard in Queen 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.200 la tiva picture. I'm just I do anyone I thought 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:31.520 that you. 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.200 One was super fire? I didn't. 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.640 I didn't realize how long? What was the what was 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.200 the process or the least. 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.879 Please the process of. 0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.040 Because no, this is what I'm asking and I'm not no, 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.320 I'm not even being snarky. Here's the reason for my asking. 0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:54.440 It's it's a lot of times when you ask for 0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:04.840 a favor or verse, especially from someone of stature, depending 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.239 on how they feel about you. And you know, there's 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.279 some people that like if Tarika asked them, you know, 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.080 I'll say that eighty five percent of the time, someone's 0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.680 gonna bring their a game. But then there's sometimes when 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:21.040 people just like maybe phone it in and that I've 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.759 had We've had a few situations where the verse was 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:24.359 phoned in. 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:29.719 Wow, and it's like well no, no, no. 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.240 It was just like which one of us is gonna 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:35.280 say no, can you do it again? 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.560 Like I feel bad when it's that situation where you 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:39.320 have to. 0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.080 And so. 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:49.600 Yeah, like what's all right? This is all gonna ask 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.239 this is yes, no question. I feel like no, no, no, 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:57.440 this is yes. It was that her verse coming in 0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.520 the door, and that was it and no more. 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.880 No we were or was it worked on? 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.520 And it was it was this is this is how 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:09.239 it happened. She invited me to a house to work 0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.000 on the on the verse. I went to her into 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.759 her home in the studio, we talked, we worked on 0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:18.200 the verse, and we got the song that song. 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.680 Right. No, no, that's all I wanted to know. 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.239 I wanted to know more or less, like how many 0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.000 takes and how many redrafts and rewrites and that sort 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.560 of because one draft? 0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.320 Okay, can we can we ask about another hard to 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.880 get person? Can we ask? Can we ask about D'Angel? 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:39.800 Did y'all pull that? Wait? 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:44.600 I'm gonna tell y'all something. This motherfucker and something he 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:49.440 started and finishing. I'm gonna tell you something. Me and D. 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:50.399 I love him. 0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:54.120 I just one day I decided to count the paces 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.520 from my house to his house. Currently, now me and 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.480 D have been neighbors. I'm gonna be knowiced to me. 0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:03.239 I didn't know that we. 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.720 Were neighbors for five years and then we've. 0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.200 Been neighbors for ten years, and one day I was like, wait, 0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:12.240 let me count. 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.480 I have a doctor's appointment that's somewhere towards his crib. 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.920 So it's like I'm literally going to count the paces 0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:20.279 seventy six steps. 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.080 Yoed us wow, and the albums and a song title. 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:29.400 I don't know what seventy six steps. 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:32.799 We've lived seventy six steps from each other for the 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:36.279 last ten years and we ain't been to each other's 0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:36.920 crib yet. 0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:39.120 That's crazy for the rect. 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:43.200 Like six months in di'angelo time, So like, don't take 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:45.279 offense this guy. 0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:50.480 He and Steve. 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:55.040 Steve was like one of the many engineers on Voodoo 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:59.520 and Black Uh, but say Black Messiah, Black Messiah. 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.640 Yeah, so how I didn't do it? 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.920 How did you get D'Angelo on the record? 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:06.480 Yo? 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:08.840 And he's doing a lot on that. 0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:14.439 He's doing arrangements on the record, so it wasn't even like. 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:16.520 OK, I'm gonna send just this hook game. He went 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:20.799 in like he's even bobbing in and out. Whatever. How 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:21.400 did that happen? 0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.279 Bud, By the grace of God the universe, Like. 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:25.879 You don't even know it that real? 0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:27.160 It was, it was. 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.040 It's all chain reaction if we had to pick that sample, 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:32.520 if just didn't want to get on it, we don't. 0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:35.480 We don't get D'Angelo like out the gate. I knew 0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:37.440 I wanted to do a Wu Tang flip because of 0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.440 Nicole Bus record that I I love that record. So 0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.320 Knife was going through all the Wu Tang sample banks 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.320 and he ends up picking the Liquid Swore joints. 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:46.920 So he's like, this is the one. He sent it 0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:48.719 to me. He's like, what you think? It's like, let's 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:49.279 run with it. 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.359 So he's like, well, if we do it, we got 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:53.520 to ask for Jesus blessing and ask him to get 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:55.360 on it because it's his bigger, biggest record. 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:59.399 Bet we do that. Jesus says yes, so that that's 0:50:59.400 --> 0:50:59.880 a feat in. 0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:02.000 It self for giggit or even one. Let us do 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:03.960 it and be like yeah, I'll get on it too. 0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:08.319 So we're in the studio mixing with Young Guru like 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.879 like mixing and at the time, like the WU documentary 0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.160 of Mike's and Minutes is out, so they're touring, so 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.359 we're trying to schedule like how we can get Jig 0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.600 in the studio to get this verse while he's touring. 0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.719 While I'm trying to meet deadlines. So he's talking to 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.719 you know, his man to handle that. But you know, 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.720 old boy on the other phone says, well, I'm also 0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:31.760 working with D'Angelo and he happens to be big fans 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.879 of both Ninth One Day and Rhapsody, and I think 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.600 it'd be dope if y'all work together. So it's just like, which, well, 0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.600 I mean what you want, Like I'm ready to do 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:44.160 like a whole new joint. Like I'm like, what do 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.520 you honesaid, I could send him the whole album, like 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:48.200 we could do some new stuff. I guess there's some 0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:50.239 beats like whatever he wants. I say, he got something, 0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:52.279 he can send it, I can finish it, you know. 0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:54.560 And he was like, nah, I think I think the 0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.320 joint that you send Jizzz, you know, would be dope. 0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:00.799 So we send it to him. 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.040 I'm flying all over the place shooting videos, doing press, 0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.480 trying to get ready for the album. So he calls 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.719 Knife at the studio and he and Ninth have a conversation. 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:11.680 But you know, he talks about he's a fan that 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.319 you know how much Wu Tang and the Liquid Swore 0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:18.000 and Liquid Sword Song meant to him like everybody has 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.960 a memory attached to that song, and how much he 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.320 loves Jigs because you know, that was the first person 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.480 from WU that he worked with. So it's just all 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:28.279 these factors. So you know, he was like, I love 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.560 the record. I love to do it. So you know, 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:32.879 we got him in the studio. You know he likes 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:38.280 to record on tape. We probably waited maybe like two weeks. 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:45.399 That is a record time waiting two weeks. That's like. 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:51.480 Two maybe three at most, like but yeah, like he 0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.800 probably went in the studio every day for like seven days, 0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:59.040 even even when I was we paid for the studio, 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.560 but when like we paid for a certain time, even 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:03.640 when that was out, he was like, I'm not finished. 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:05.759 I'll pay for the rest to finish it. I'm just like, yo, 0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:07.200 this is crazy. 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.400 I was wondering because, yeah, I was wondering if he 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.720 did his thing on tape because it's all his vocals 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:17.719 are very speeded oppressive. 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:18.799 But yeah, he killed it. 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:20.640 He ain't featuring nowhere else either. 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.760 What do you do background vocals? And you said you're arranged, 0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:25.360 well arranged. 0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.320 Back, but he doesn't do mere background vocals. 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.200 It's just the way he played with his voice. 0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:34.960 Like, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, and that's majestic. 0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.319 And what was ill for me is I did like 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:39.960 a mock cook before I knew he was going to 0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.239 be on it, like the place hold it. To hear 0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:44.799 him sing it, like I was like, yeah, I was 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:46.719 like I thought he was gonna write something new like 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:49.520 that in himself was ill to me. 0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:52.600 But you know how to I mean people. 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:58.239 We look up to our d'angelo's and think that they 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.359 you know, that there are another level, but there's still 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.680 big time music fans, you know, and they fall in 0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.239 love with something when they hear it, and they don't 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.080 need to change it, they just recreate it. 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:09.920 That's amazing. 0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:23.440 So what I'm sort of skipping to your second album 0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:28.000 and so what was the process in the decision to 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.440 roll with rock Nation for yourself? 0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:35.680 Oh, we knew that, you know, as an indie label, 0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:38.720 we can only do so much like budget and marketing 0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:41.680 wise and really getting the exposure that I wanted. So 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:43.919 you know, when we took the meeting with rock One, 0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.319 I'm a big j fan Offgate, but walking into the 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:50.320 building and at the time, Shaka Pilgrim was the president 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.920 and you walk in and fifty percent of the staff 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:56.480 of women and it's so so many different coaches, and 0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.000 we came in with Lailor's wisdom probably eighty percent done. 0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.160 And they didn't ask us to change or sing why 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:06.160 not one single thing. It was always all right, what 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.200 do y'all want to do? What you envision? Like what 0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:11.640 are you thinking of the music? They never every eve, 0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.640 they didn't ask to change or touch anything. And so 0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:17.560 to me, like the energy and just how much they 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:19.960 love the culture. It didn't seem like I've been to 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:22.759 death jam I think in Atlantic before, but this was 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.080 this was different. This was all about culture and just 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:28.160 music and they were really about growing with me. Like 0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:31.520 they wasn't pressure to have a radio single or it 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:33.880 was just like, you know, we believe in you and 0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:34.400 your talent. 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.600 We just want to how can we help? That's what 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:38.120 it was. So that's why. 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.560 And how did you feel the morning that the nominations 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:43.520 came out? 0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:48.399 And I don't know for you, it's kind of phone call. 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:49.359 Yo. 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:51.040 Ninth was the first one that hit me because I 0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:53.120 was in la This was like five in the morning, 0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:53.840 so he hit me. 0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:56.440 He was like, Yo, you nominated and you nominated. 0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:02.000 Uh, it wasn't twice twice so I was like, yo, 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:05.520 what like yo to be nominated, but to even be 0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:08.880 nominated twice like that was crazy for me. It was 0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.040 just like people were calling me. I couldn't even answer 0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:13.319 the phone. I had to just sit back and reflect, like, Yo, 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.360 we're here, Like this is a different bar to be 0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.520 recognized at the highest level of music when a of 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.880 awards show and then not have no Billboard hits and 0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.400 no platinum records, and to be in a category with 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.080 Jay Z and Kendrick Lamar at the same time. 0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:27.880 It's just like man as. 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.439 Not have to change nothing, not even have to play 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:31.640 on the tight dress. 0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.960 I cried a little bit, you know, but yeah, I 0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.800 was thankful that I stayed the course of anything. 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:43.920 So I have to say that your your whole process 0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:49.759 of crafting the Eve album, it's just some amazing ass shit, 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.319 you know, like where where did the idea even come 0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:59.480 from for crafting this? This album as an homage to 0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:02.600 the spirit of the black woman in America in the 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:06.319 world and their effect like where's the Genesis and the 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:06.960 seed born? 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.800 Last summer summer twenty eighteen, I was doing an interview 0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:15.560 for the Oxford and this guy named Lamar Wilson he 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:21.240 was writing a piece on the lineage of Carolina musicians, 0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:25.200 and so he was connecting me with Nina Simone and ROBERTA. 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:29.720 Flat so like I was just like, yo, I didn't 0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:31.880 I never thought of me connecting with them in that 0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:35.360 way because we just seemed like too, like I just 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.439 look I put them up here, like there's no way 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.920 like reconnected. But the way he broke it down, like 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:43.160 you're both soul for you know, you're both lyrical. You 0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.680 know you both reflect the times and talk about what's 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:48.080 going on in the community, your storytellers. I was like, man, 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.120 I never thought about it in that way like I 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:53.320 do come from their family tree. And it made me think, like, yo, 0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:55.160 when I do interviews and people say who are you 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.440 influenced by? Yeah, I say Queen my teeth for MC 0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.280 like Lauryn Hill, but I talk about Sicily Tyson, talk 0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:04.800 about I talk about Nikki Giavanni, you know, Maya Angelo, 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.120 And I'm just like man, when I think about who 0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:09.720 I am and who I'm inspired by. Of course, you 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:11.840 have your village, your mom, but there are so many 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:16.240 black women that I look up to and too. It 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.880 gave me away creatively to show that there are so 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.680 many different sides of me too, you know. People like 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:23.320 to say or kind of put me in a box 0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:25.160 sometimes based on the music that I make. 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:26.120 That you know I had. 0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:28.280 We were in a studio one time and the dude 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:30.960 was like, Yo, we thought like a party for y'all's 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.200 just like burning incense and y'all listening to my dude 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:35.040 and all this, And. 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.520 I'm just like, bro, like what are you talking about? 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.280 Like I grew up on Luke, I listened to Go Go, 0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:42.960 growing up, like I'm from snow Hill, North Carolina, Like 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.240 That's the Sticks, like Boon's Fall, Like we listened to everything. 0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.080 So there were so many sides of me. 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:50.640 So it's like this is a way where I could 0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:54.320 take a different woman to not only describe like my 0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.680 different personalities, but also talk about them and continue their 0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.320 legacies and say that we all are coming all come 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.920 from a family tree. I think after I did that interview, 0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:05.200 like I went home and I'd always wanted to do 0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:07.640 a song about being a tomboy, especially in this day 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.000 and age and what that looks like. And I did 0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:12.800 it because of the way I started the song when 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.000 Aaliyah was alive, and I was like I'm gonna just 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:16.680 call it Aliyah, And as soon as. 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.480 I did that, it all just clicked came together. 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:22.760 Yeah, the conversation, it's like, oh, I got this song, Alia, 0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:25.720 I could do this with this this Felicia Rashad taught 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.320 me about motherly love, Nikki Giovanni taught. 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:30.400 Me the power words and blackness like. 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:36.240 Yeah, in the videos, which I also feel are crucial 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:39.320 components to the vision of that, like what were the 0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:43.280 concepts for the well, not the concepts, but you know 0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.840 as far as like I personally want you to make 0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:49.760 a video almost for every song. 0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:51.280 I know too too. 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:53.640 I'm trying to make it happen right now. We just 0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:57.000 did a feenie too long ago. Yeah, we did a feenie. 0:59:57.400 --> 0:59:59.000 I still want to add to it. It ain't all 0:59:59.000 --> 0:59:59.480 the way right. 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:01.440 Wait, so so far you got a Phoenie. What videos 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:02.160 do you have for which? 1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:07.440 Yeah, oprahj FENI will be the third one. The next 1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:11.440 one I probably want to do Cleo, whoop be, Aliya, Serena. 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:13.440 I want to do one for every song like I 1:00:13.800 --> 1:00:14.360 see it. 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:16.160 So no problem putting this list together. 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:22.040 Because you mentioned the interview that you left earth Kit 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:25.120 was it just for spacing on the album or just spacey. 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:27.480 The first draft, we had twenty three songs. 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.880 You know, we we knew like it's too long because 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:34.760 people today can't digest music in the same way, the 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:35.520 same way. 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:37.720 Like they they tap out it. 1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:39.760 At first, I was going to do a part one 1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:43.000 and a part two, so sonically, you know, we have 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.120 this one in the part two is gonna be. It 1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:48.560 was gonna be way more soul for and more boombab heavy. 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:52.040 That was gonna be like Felicia Rashad DJ Spinderella, she 1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:52.760 has a song. 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:56.560 Who we are going to get a sequel? 1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.760 Harriet? I was, I got, I got different ideas. That's 1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:01.120 more music coming. 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:03.360 I love you what it's so journal route and you 1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:05.160 said I'm not going to do to Harriet, So I 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:06.880 was like, maybe there's a Yeah. 1:01:06.920 --> 1:01:10.040 I was Harry's Journal, which when do I name it? 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:14.280 But yeah, so but there's there's I do like forty women. 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:19.640 As far as where you are right now, like what 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:21.840 do you feel that your goals are, Like do you 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:25.240 have do you have a five year plan as far 1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:28.200 as like this point from now, like developing other acts 1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:31.200 or like just make more music. 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:34.200 Or definitely make more music. I think it's the foundation 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:34.800 of everything. 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:38.600 But I want to expand artistically because you know the 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:40.320 way I write, Like I want to get into not 1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:42.480 only writing songs that I want to write films. I 1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:45.600 want to get behind the camera and produce documentaries. I 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:49.160 was in the in the Rock office with Ti Ti today. 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:52.200 He was like, rap, you need writes, bet pop records. 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:55.480 It's like, you know, so you know, I definitely want 1:01:55.480 --> 1:01:57.160 to try it. Like I'm just like, let's try and 1:01:57.160 --> 1:02:00.120 see what happens. Just but just do a lot of 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:04.080 more things artistically. I thought about starting a label. I 1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:08.320 don't know how I feel about that yet. But Missa 1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:11.520 Hilton Son Nicole Brown, he's an EMC, so I want 1:02:11.520 --> 1:02:13.760 to help. I'm helping because you can produce his album. 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:16.240 That will be my first time like taking that role. Okay, 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:19.280 but yeah, just like really expand on that, but always 1:02:19.400 --> 1:02:20.600 putting out music, giving. 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:22.800 Back to what was given to you. Okay, I see that. 1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:26.320 Well, you know again from the Bomber Arts, we really 1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:30.680 thank you for your your your talent and your wisdom and. 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:33.280 All that blackness, all that queenness. That's what I'm thinking. 1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:35.720 You can't really say that, I'm just speaking for you. 1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:38.240 Can for the sisters. Thank you. 1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:44.080 I can think you can't thank you in the queenness. 1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:46.120 We can say that too, you can. 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:50.680 You didn't, so I was just feeling like Jewish, say. 1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:53.200 Have you been to Egypt? Because you. 1:02:54.920 --> 1:02:56.680 I'm trying to get that we should be together. 1:02:58.600 --> 1:03:03.240 Yeah, there you go the sugar Steve. Yes, I would 1:03:03.240 --> 1:03:06.280 pay either well, that is, I should pay for us 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:11.880 to go. That's another episode, of course, Supreme. Ladies and gentlemen, 1:03:11.960 --> 1:03:13.080 thank you one more time. 1:03:13.160 --> 1:03:17.840 Rhaps did he give it up all right? 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:21.280 Or and behalf of light and Steve and bost Bill 1:03:21.440 --> 1:03:25.240 and yes, even unpaid Bill and font Tiicola, who incidentally, 1:03:25.960 --> 1:03:28.840 uh is still out getting cigarettes and he said he'll 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:34.960 be be back home any moment. Uh cigarettes, So hurry 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:35.680 up man. 1:03:35.720 --> 1:03:40.480 He said he was going to get some smokes two 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:40.880 years ago. 1:03:41.000 --> 1:03:43.680 He's fixing his bathroom now now it's now, let's getting 1:03:43.680 --> 1:03:44.320 some cigarettes. 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:45.160 All right. 1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:47.280 This is quest Love, and we'll see you on the 1:03:47.280 --> 1:03:49.000 next go round, of course, Love Supreme. 1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:49.880 Thank you. 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:03.720 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1:04:03.840 --> 1:04:05.760 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.