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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Fante Come Back.

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Speaker 3: Supreme Supreme, Roll Supreme Supremo, Roll called Supreme Supremo, Roll

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Speaker 3: call Supreme Supreme.

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Speaker 4: Roll God, I don't want to alarm Yeah, or across hysteria. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but all the great talents. Yeah, we're born Aquarius Supreme.

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Speaker 1: I forgot my.

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Speaker 5: Supreme role.

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Speaker 2: My name is Sugar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I love McCoy Tyner Yeah and any rapper. Yeah from

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Speaker 6: North Carolina.

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Speaker 7: Supreme Supreme, Roll Suprema, So Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 5: It's like em yeah and than me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Ain't nobody, Well, it may be rhapsody.

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Speaker 7: WHOA call Supremo Sun Sun Supremo, Roll call Supremo Supremo.

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Speaker 5: Roll they call me rap.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm on this show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Freestyle at the top.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all I know.

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Speaker 7: Ro Suprema su su Supremo, Roll call Supreme Supremo, Roll

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Speaker 7: call Supremo Sun Sun Suprema Roll Suprema Sun Sun Suprema.

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Speaker 4: Roll Come get it all right, I did it.

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Speaker 5: Got a little one. That's cute.

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of the nerdiest

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Speaker 4: rabbit hole and informative program ever created for music. This

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Speaker 4: is Quest Love Supreme. I am quest Love and I

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Speaker 4: be sixty three. Shout out to my team Supreme crew,

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Speaker 4: Sugar Steve, who I think.

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Speaker 1: Is what five? Ten eleven?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? Well, it depends what part of me you're talking.

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Speaker 1: You'd be five hr anyway, and shout out to Laya.

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 9: Five?

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Speaker 1: What you about? Five? Eight?

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Speaker 5: That's right, alright, that's good question.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say you more like six feet

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Speaker 4: when you rock the stilettos, when Leonard uh, when Leonard

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Speaker 4: Kravitz is in proximity of you, are you gonna go

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Speaker 4: my way? Anyway? Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today, I

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Speaker 4: should pretty much have music fans and real hip hop

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Speaker 4: hits mad excited. Hailing from North Caakalac, she made her

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Speaker 4: professional debut on ninth One is Dream Merchant project way

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Speaker 4: back in like two thousand and seven. That's ever as

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Speaker 4: a member of the Koli High Collective and also releasing

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Speaker 4: I Can't Forget Buzzworthy mixtapes, she's pretty much been bubbling under,

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Speaker 4: releasing The Idea of beautif Full in twenty twelve, getting notable

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Speaker 4: co signs from like Mac Miller, BJ's Chicago Kid Charles Gambino.

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Speaker 4: Of course, twenty seventeens Lia is Wisdom, Layla's Wisdom, Layales.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, all right, I saw the name and just

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Speaker 4: started saying your name like you, Layla's Wisdom with spots

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Speaker 4: from k Dot and andest In Pat and someone else

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Speaker 4: named black Thought, whoever that is. The new rock Nation

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Speaker 4: signee got her first round of Grammy nominations, and of

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Speaker 4: course we cannot forget twenty nineteen's Eve with an astounding

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Speaker 4: Metacritics score of ninety. Let me just let you know, medical.

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Speaker 1: Like I use that Metacritic is kind of like it's

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Speaker 1: an aggregate.

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Speaker 4: It's like rotten tomatoes. So a combination of everyone who's

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Speaker 4: reviewed your product. Wow, you get a basically a score.

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Speaker 4: So to get ninety is that's some acclaimed that shit.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, I prayed just to get eighties, like

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Speaker 4: seventy five to eighties. She's getting straight out, she's getting straight.

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Speaker 4: A's over here, you know, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome

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Speaker 4: to Quest Love Supreme, the one and only Rhapsody here.

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Speaker 1: You're lad for yourself too, because I want to, I

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Speaker 1: want I want to.

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Speaker 9: Huge in the Bengals three right, see they running sixt deep.

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Speaker 8: Gold Bot straight up from the fingers to the neck.

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Speaker 8: You know what it is.

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Speaker 1: You were telling us where your shine came from.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, so I actually, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what, I like the return. I feel like it's

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Speaker 4: going to be a righteous return to gold.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's something that.

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Speaker 4: I was not able to experience as a kid. I

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Speaker 4: was in the plastic phase.

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Speaker 5: Of like mcdowia African Medallion, stop Watch. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 5: was allowed.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to have anything back.

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Speaker 4: I have to stop Watch because I grew up in

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Speaker 4: the era where they would snatch your snatch, your snatch everything,

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Speaker 4: you your sneakers. I couldn't wear Jordan's nothing, hip hoppy,

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Speaker 4: no king gold, no nothing, So that's real.

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Speaker 1: But I could get a stop Watch.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, nobody didn't want that.

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Speaker 1: So where did you? Where did you?

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Speaker 9: I've always like Gold. I mean I went through the

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Speaker 9: Wood Medallion stage. I went through that, you know, Zoo Nation,

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Speaker 9: African Pictic. But I've always been a fan of Gold.

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Speaker 9: I just actually loved Rock Nation.

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Speaker 8: And one of the security.

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Speaker 9: Guards was like, the history behind gold and Egypt was

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Speaker 9: that the kings who loved their wives would adorn them

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Speaker 9: and all this gold so you always see the women wearing.

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Speaker 4: Mad Yes, that kind of was my first time in

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Speaker 4: rock Nation.

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Speaker 1: They were just having dice games and.

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Speaker 5: Day, okay, I like.

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Speaker 10: Your gold combo because it's like you got the banks

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Speaker 10: on the chest, but then you were telling me you

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Speaker 10: got the thrift on the arms. But it's all shining

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Speaker 10: at the same level of shin nasty.

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Speaker 8: One of these chest joints is thrifty.

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Speaker 5: That what sot reputee?

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Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: As far as no, no, not you, I'm like, as

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Speaker 4: far as I.

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Speaker 9: Put it in could, I'm always rock fake goal like that,

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Speaker 9: I'm keeping with you.

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Speaker 8: There you go, this this never this never TD might

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Speaker 8: be real. Just the Marry J. Blige and uh some collection.

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Speaker 5: There's a Mary J.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she did a collaboration with.

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Speaker 9: L Rife Samon. So this is the Sister Love m

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Speaker 9: G m j B collection. It's right here.

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Speaker 8: And yeah they got this and they got the double

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Speaker 8: never TD ear rings. I got those. I got that

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Speaker 8: fire Google.

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Speaker 1: She's literally googling can we finish the episode?

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Speaker 8: Sister Love m j.

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Speaker 1: B bringing out the credit card right now?

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Speaker 5: I just want to get his sister some live black business.

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Speaker 4: We got that, we got that all right, So where

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Speaker 4: I start with every episode of Quest Love Supreme, of which,

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Speaker 4: like I'm really interested in how your creativity has evolved

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Speaker 4: throughout the years, I always start with the question is

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Speaker 4: where were you born?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 9: I was born in Whilson, North Carolina. It's a small

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Speaker 9: city in the eastern part of North Carolina. But I

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Speaker 9: grew up thirty mention from there in snow Hill, North Carolina.

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Speaker 9: And that's an even smallest city, population two thousand.

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Speaker 8: Like, that's where I was born, around a lot.

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Speaker 9: Of woods and fields and you know, going to the

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Speaker 9: cousins all day in the dirt.

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Speaker 5: You know, your shooters out there. You a shoot.

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Speaker 9: I shot B B gun. That's about it. You know,

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Speaker 9: I ain't doing nothing more than that. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 9: that's how I grew up. I didn't go to my

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Speaker 9: first hip hop concert until maybe I was thirteen.

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Speaker 8: Montel Jordan does that count?

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Speaker 5: So I went on the bill.

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Speaker 8: I think that he was the only rapper.

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Speaker 1: Bro that's Williams.

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Speaker 5: Trying to play my faith. This is how we do.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned that I have a friend who is celebrating

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Speaker 4: like a milestone birthday. So he's trying to have like

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Speaker 4: a ninety steam rap party and have like his rap

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Speaker 4: favorites and he's really in the nineties R and B,

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Speaker 4: and he wants to get the most bang for his buck.

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Speaker 4: The thing is is that Montel, even though he's had

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Speaker 4: other hits, you know, this is how we do.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the Black national anthem.

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Speaker 8: It is, so to speak.

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Speaker 5: It's transformed too. It's like everybody's now.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is is I'm trying to push him

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Speaker 4: to get He can either get Montel Jordan or he

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Speaker 4: could get Drew Hill. And I told him he Drew Hill,

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Speaker 4: You'll least get four hits.

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Speaker 10: At least the song at least bro so you you

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Speaker 10: got to well.

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Speaker 5: They're the same price, Drew Hill, what are we talking about?

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Speaker 8: Question?

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that's next.

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Speaker 1: That's next somebody? Yes, and uh there's two.

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Speaker 5: Pieces like pieces calm girl. I don't forget what that's called.

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Speaker 1: Right, But at least he's looking at me like, what

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Speaker 1: the fuck with you? Hill? You at least get four

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Speaker 1: hits and the thongs?

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Speaker 5: Yes, right?

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Speaker 4: And with Montel, you get that one. This is how

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Speaker 4: we do it, even though there's been other hits. You know,

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Speaker 4: he's had other top ten hits. I'm not trying and

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Speaker 4: the talk show, Yes, no, that's Montel Williams. And so

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Speaker 4: let's let's not totally rabbit hole off the you know,

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Speaker 4: the conversation. What I want to know is okay for

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Speaker 4: us as snotty Northerners that only come on. Now, let's

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Speaker 4: keep it one hundred. We know, we know, we know

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Speaker 4: like four cities. No, my family is from Greensboro.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, y'all know Charlotte, Greensboro rally probably Now all.

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Speaker 1: My family's from Greensboro. But that's all I know.

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Speaker 4: And I know like in Greensboro not to talk to

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Speaker 4: any woman because I've heard that at least one out

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Speaker 4: of the before black women in that city is my cousin.

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Speaker 9: Where you're going, We don't want to get into the

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Speaker 9: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, no not at all.

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Speaker 4: So like what major city are you was? It was

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Speaker 4: snow you said, snow Hill.

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Speaker 8: Snow Hill. You're not going to know. The closest rally

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Speaker 9: Really, that's the that's the one that's maybe Fayettville, maybe, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: that's like an hour and a half where j Cole

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Speaker 4: So you're saying that it's more so you're saying that

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Speaker 4: the environment was more backwoodsy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely like this, it was closer to.

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Speaker 1: My Daughters of the Dust or like, I just want.

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Speaker 5: To know the reference because I'm that's dope. That's dope.

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Speaker 1: That was dope reference with Darters of the Dust.

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Speaker 4: No, well, I'm just saying that in terms of Okay,

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Speaker 4: there's when when slavery.

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Speaker 5: And the gullers where you're going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when slavery was ended, there's some freed Africans that

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Speaker 4: decided to continue the tradition of of their life as

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Speaker 4: they knew it in Africa by living off in the

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Speaker 4: far woods. Like really, my my peeps come from Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 4: So they started Africa Town and practice Yorba religion and

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Speaker 4: all that stuff. But they did that also gees in

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Speaker 4: North Carolina and whatnot. So I was trying to is

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, I know we need

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Speaker 5: that deep bro.

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Speaker 8: Okay, because I don't do me like that.

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Speaker 9: Come on, look at me, Look how I'm dressed, baby,

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Speaker 9: I watch your MTV raps like those are my biggest memories.

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Speaker 8: And the look was like a.

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Speaker 10: Them know right, like have you found like your brothers

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Speaker 8: Come over to this side.

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Speaker 1: Wait, when's the last time you went to Kingdom?

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Speaker 5: Because past needs everything full.

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Speaker 4: I've never spoken to someone what goes on, so I

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Speaker 9: It was honestly, it was like Bible school, like you

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Speaker 1: Like that.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're just from behind me of when we

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Speaker 4: So you're you said that Montel was your first How

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Speaker 8: I was in seventh grade, so that it was Montel

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Speaker 9: To me, that was the first concert I went to

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Speaker 8: I was in college. I don't remember. It might have

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Speaker 8: North Carolina State University.

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Speaker 4: can make down Oh wait, I'm about to tell you

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Speaker 4: Little Brother, Yeah, I forgot.

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Speaker 8: I have heard that story.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yep, thank God for that rain storm.

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Speaker 4: I want to well, I mean the show was outdoors,

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Speaker 10: So, like, yo, who was Carolina hip hop before Little Brother.

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Speaker 8: Before a Little Brother?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But even then, that's just like, were there any to

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Speaker 4: It's weird that Okay, it's weird that you're asking that

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Speaker 5: Rappers, right school rappers.

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Speaker 1: That moved down there. I know that special Edge, Specialleed

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Speaker 4: Big Daddy came as early, and they were telling us,

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Speaker 4: Like you could get some scarface property maybe.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, for like cheap to them.

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Speaker 8: You know, Madland?

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Speaker 8: And I mean it's it's still pretty affordable.

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Speaker 1: Now what city do you live in now?

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Speaker 8: I live in Raleigh?

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Speaker 5: So are you?

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Speaker 4: And you consider that home? That's where you would like

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Speaker 1: I wanted to say, is that where you want to die?

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Speaker 9: Well, but that's where you want to settle down?

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Speaker 8: Settle down is a better word. Yes, I would.

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Speaker 9: I would like to settle down North Carolina, but I

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Speaker 9: definitely want to move. I've been there my whole life,

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Speaker 9: Like I want to live in New York. I want

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Speaker 5: Know, you haven't done it yet.

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Speaker 8: I'm found South South Africa. If I could take all

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Speaker 10: You seem like the type that would circle back and

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Speaker 9: Oh definitely, definitely that's home always. So you got to

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Speaker 1: What was your come to Jesus moment as far as.

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Speaker 4: Knowing that you had something, as far as love for

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Speaker 9: Oh I felt like that was early, like like I

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Speaker 9: So that that was the first time I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 9: more into it, you know, listening to Warren G. Like

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Speaker 8: But it was Lauren Hill that really you locked me in.

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Speaker 8: I saw the food.

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Speaker 5: The food is a score.

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Speaker 8: I knew what I wanted to do.

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Speaker 10: It's funny always want to ask people because you said

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Speaker 5: Nobody ever says anything. I'll blunt it.

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Speaker 8: The vocal the remix rock.

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Speaker 5: Okay, here's a little one.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've heard bln on reality and its entirety.

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Speaker 8: Of course, I couldn't get through it, not so much.

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Speaker 5: You know, I ain't mad at you.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it wasn't no, no, no, it was which one

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Speaker 5: They were in the way. We weren't We weren't all

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Yes there was.

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Speaker 4: Now that I'm older and wiser, I know not to

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Speaker 4: react off of ninth hand information. Okay, And this is

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00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: me closer to my fifties than you know. This is

449
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: like if this that Dave Chappelle sketch where like you know,

450
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: twenty three year old mirror is talking versus me. Now,

451
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: it was just that, Yes, I felt some sort of way.

452
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: It's okay, Like we were on tour together and it

453
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: was a doggy dog territory and they got out the

454
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: gate first. The score came out, and Ate The Score

455
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 4: came out in like February ninety six, and Hiladelph Half

456
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 4: Life came out in September ninety six. So they got

457
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: out the Gate first had three you know, they sold

458
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 4: eleven million by the time we came out. But I

459
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: was a little salty, he really, I was salty that

460
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: their show slowly started to morph into our show, which

461
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 4: you know, when they first came out, it was about

462
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: the ritual with the you know they were doing like

463
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: voodoo rituals and all those things, you know, representing Haiti.

464
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were lighting candles.

465
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 10: And something not those direction. What did he saying? But

466
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 10: it's okay, what are you talking about?

467
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: You really?

468
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 5: You serious? I don't remember I remember them wrapping in Japanese.

469
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, oh dude in So here's the deal.

470
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: My last day intern at rough House Records, which coincidentally

471
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 4: was Santi Cole's first day. Santi was my replacement at

472
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: rough House as the intern, and upon leaving, uh, Chris

473
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 4: Wartz pulled me aside and said, hey, I know you

474
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: guys are having a signing party for you guys signing

475
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 4: to Geffen Records.

476
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: How many acts you happened. We're like, well, we got

477
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: Jay with the Damager Gang Star is going to come

478
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: and perform some local philiacs. We're really full.

479
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: But then I thought he did give me that money

480
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: for our first video. Wow, what's up? And he says, Yo,

481
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 4: we got a group that's sort of like in the

482
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: lane of you guys, and can they go on and

483
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: do like, you know, like.

484
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: Two or three songs whatever? And I was like, okay, okay,

485
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: I did it. Why do you want to add to this?

486
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll just sign. So here's the thing they get.

487
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: They get to sound check, and the first thing I

488
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: said was, now, let me let me just preface by

489
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: saying that I was the family DVR.

490
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: So it was my job.

491
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 4: My uncles and my aunts and my mom and everyone

492
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: really didn't know much about programming a VCR and someone

493
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: had to program all their stories. So every Friday, I

494
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 4: had to come and reprogram myself so they go watch

495
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 4: their stories during their week on VCR. So I was

496
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 4: very familiar with all the CBS soap operas. So when

497
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 4: she walked in, Oh yeah, at the it's like yo, yeah,

498
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: yeah for Master World terms, and she looked at me

499
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: like like I was calling her out, like I think

500
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 4: she was expecting the sister act too, But I was like, yo,

501
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 4: Shem was like and looked at me like like I

502
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 4: was like, I didn't realize that, like I'm about to

503
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: blow your cover that you're a professional soap opera actress.

504
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 4: And so no, and we became cool and we toured together.

505
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 4: But the thing was then when they first started, they

506
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 4: were like lighting the stage with stages and and.

507
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 5: You know, when they finished White Clubs playing a guitar, like.

508
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: I think what we showed them, what we showed them

509
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 4: was that, oh, you can sort of do like the

510
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: karaoke hip hop tribute thing, which you know once we're

511
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 4: like used to well, I mean the thing it was like, okay,

512
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: third verse, we're going to rhyme over this caros one break,

513
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: and the second verse we're going to do a breakover

514
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 4: this black Moon break and that and when we you know,

515
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: and then as they started doing it was like then

516
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 4: they called why am I wasting?

517
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: All right? Anyway?

518
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 5: Hip hop history, for.

519
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 8: I needed to know why you didn't finish the whole score.

520
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: Now anyway, So my point is that I'll say that

521
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: in ten ninety six, it was it was tense it

522
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: was very tense. So it's hard for me to as

523
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: a listener to listen to that particular album.

524
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 5: Do you find it interesting?

525
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 10: He still hasn't listened to What I Do because it's nineteen.

526
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It's so classic you can't avoid it.

527
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 4: It's almost like it's almost like Bruce Springsteen is born

528
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 4: in the USA. All but three songs are singles, so like,

529
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: I know it.

530
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: All and that's the whole album. I just know that song.

531
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: No, but you've heard Dancing in the Dark, cover Me

532
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: and I'm on Fire and Glory Days and like it's

533
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: damn near thriller, Like you know all the songs.

534
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: Anyway, this is not about me.

535
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: Welcome to quest of Supreme Rhapsody anyway.

536
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: So I shot, I will say I love it is. No, well,

537
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 4: at least I'm man it is.

538
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 8: That's that's a nice fact. That's a good question at

539
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 8: the time.

540
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: No, but I know all the songs, like I would

541
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: DJ like the joint the Zealots and.

542
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 10: I dare you to throw vocab in the next party.

543
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 10: Can be just can me just get it?

544
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: I love vocas I know.

545
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: I'm just saying nobody does blunt it. That was back

546
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 5: to my original.

547
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no no, but I was saying off that

548
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: first record, I loved vocab.

549
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: That was that was my join. That was my join anyway,

550
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: So back to you.

551
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 6: So you like Lauren Hell huh, I'm trying to get

552
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 6: back there. Yeah, she was.

553
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: A big influence.

554
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: So what was what was the community like? And the

555
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 4: one question that I'm glad that you kind of what

556
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: I call matrix dodge is, especially with people that are

557
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: not that familiar with you and they're asking you all

558
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: the time like, well, what's it like being a female

559
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: and rap and you.

560
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: Know, underground d da da da da? But what was

561
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: the environment?

562
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: Because I'll be honest with you, by the time that

563
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: like the turn of the the the millennium, uh, by

564
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: the end of the nineties into the early aughts, Like

565
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 4: I personally was rather shocked that there was a boom

566
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 4: bap element or appreciation in North Carolina, which really shocked

567
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: me by when I listened to you know, Little Brother's demo.

568
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: The first time, I was like, wait, where are they're from?

569
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, same thing, what rhapsod he does, same thing.

570
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: I appreci it. I don't even hear.

571
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Right, So for me, like, how did you.

572
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: Avoid what we up north sort of associate most hip

573
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: hop from down South, which I guess you could say

574
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: in the nineties we thought that South was booty music

575
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: or that's you know, or the early early stages of trap.

576
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: Like how did you find a hip hop community that

577
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: was you know about the aesthetics of what quote real

578
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: hip hoppers in New York strive to be.

579
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 9: Well, For one, I think people have a slight misconception

580
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 9: like if you look at North Carolina, we're more Middle

581
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 9: East than Deep South, so you.

582
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 8: Know, yeah, and we're wanted.

583
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 9: We're probably one of the states that have the most HBCUs.

584
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 9: So at the time, you got understand, ninety five runs

585
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 9: straight through North Carolina. So you have a lot of

586
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 9: artists or New Yorkers that are coming to come to

587
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 9: school in North Carolina and they're bringing the music with them.

588
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 9: You have drug dealers coming through, they're bringing the music

589
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 9: with them. So for us, it's like a melting pot too.

590
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 9: You got people from Atlanta coming, so, you know, not

591
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 9: only that's how we got the music, Like, you know,

592
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 9: there was so much northern influence where we lived, just

593
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 9: from the colleges and people that came through, you know,

594
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 9: that's a lot of what we listened to. So we

595
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 9: listened to boom Back, We listened to a lot of

596
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 9: New York music, but we all listen to Atlanta.

597
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 8: We also listen. So when I think about North Carolina,

598
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 8: it's just a melting pot.

599
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 9: Like you know, we didn't have like a true Southern

600
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 9: identity like a Texas you know, but it's still car culture.

601
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 9: So you got to ride the eye music at the

602
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 9: same time. So I think that's what it was where

603
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 9: you know, everybody I know, like we wore tims, you

604
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying.

605
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 8: Like they they had they were the headbands.

606
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 9: They had some you know, people from the South some

607
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 9: time to get the New York accent.

608
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 8: Like that was heavy where I was from.

609
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 9: Like my cousin used to call itself nas because you know,

610
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 9: the music and everybody from the colleges that were in

611
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 9: there was just heavily influenced on us.

612
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: Speaking of I'm jumping way ahead, but you mentioned car

613
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: culture and writing. Indeed, I'm just gonna ask in the

614
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 4: video for Eve to Hush Yep, where did that car

615
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: come from?

616
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 8: Oh man, we made a call somebody, somebody brought that through.

617
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 8: Like that's a rental today.

618
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Damn it, wait for that for the video.

619
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, the green joint with the mcm insize. Yes, yeah,

620
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 8: Mysa Hill.

621
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 11: I'm about to say, and she dripped the inside outm

622
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 11: but somebody they own a car that people use the

623
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 11: videos and they let us, they let us drip it out.

624
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I I thought that was your personal riding.

625
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 8: No, we ain't there yet.

626
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: You know you will be there.

627
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: Let's start with the affirmations, not even goals effects.

628
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 5: But when you get there, you probably won't want the

629
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: car with mcm I don't know.

630
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 8: That's kind of fire with the mcm cs.

631
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: This, this is give them too much.

632
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: Listen.

633
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: This is the lesson that I want anyone listening to

634
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: learn for twenty twenty that most of the times we

635
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: come modest and humble, and we need to be We

636
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: need to be more about I am as opposed to

637
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: I am me and own it, own it instead of

638
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: you know, one of these days we'll get there.

639
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 10: But you know this is funny because the three of

640
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 10: us have that whole twenty four hours between our birthdays.

641
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 10: So I'm really taking this to heart because I know

642
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 10: that's who you really are. You're fighting that anyway you

643
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 10: know and rhaps you know you're you're born to.

644
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Wait, why am I fighting?

645
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 10: Day?

646
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I was born?

647
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 10: No fighting that what you just said is a big

648
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 10: deal for us. Like we usually aquarium sometimes can be

649
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 10: like I am when we are dope as fuck instead

650
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 10: of being like I am like that's an aquarium things.

651
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 8: Right, That's something I'm working on.

652
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 9: This, This is what I'm higher vibrations and really owning

653
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 9: and manifest from.

654
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: I am stoned right now.

655
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: I am stoned.

656
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 9: I am.

657
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: I am stone.

658
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: So when was the major at the NC State County?

659
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: Yes?

660
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: Really all right?

661
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: Because you know why? Because I was a mass calm major.

662
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 10: And I always told like the younger kids when I said,

663
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 10: when you go back, when you go to school, like

664
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 10: intern with your passion. But do some have some kind

665
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 10: of business major and learn all the information you know,

666
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 10: numbers wise and formula wise so you can you are

667
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 10: a business, you need to know how to you know,

668
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 10: run it.

669
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 9: So yeah, when I get my taxes done, you don't

670
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 9: know the lank whatever. But I wish I had done

671
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 9: marketing if I was okay one, I wish I had

672
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 9: done marketing, but I did it because I was good

673
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 9: at numbers. My sister went to school for accounting. You know,

674
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 9: growing up in the South, it's like get a job,

675
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 9: get married, and get a job like an accountant a doctor.

676
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 9: So I was like, I'm good with numbers. I'm gonna

677
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 9: do that. But I'm way more creative than I am

678
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 9: with numbers. But I didn't figure out that that's not

679
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 9: what I wanted to do until my junior year. And

680
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 9: I was trying to transfer to NYU until I saw

681
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 9: that out of state tuition, so I chese to, I relaxed.

682
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 8: I real still.

683
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 4: That one I tried to be a New York College

684
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 4: student and it wasn't I wasn't too successful.

685
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 10: You notice the difference between the HPC used tuition and

686
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 10: then the big school. Well, I'm gonna just be over

687
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 10: here at Mark and State.

688
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: Then I don't know some of them HPC, Pricey.

689
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 10: Well, Spelman's and the leader of the yesuse I went

690
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 10: to Clark, so they have no more of that.

691
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, I was going to ask Spellman doesn't have

692
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 4: any more of that C word one hundred million dollar donation.

693
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what they did with that money. I

694
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: don't even know her. His wife's name is on the

695
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 5: building anymore. We're talking about.

696
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah we still have doctor.

697
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 6: Okay, I made enough Cosby jokes over the years to

698
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 6: start now now you can't say.

699
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 5: It the husks.

700
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 8: I know what y'all was talking about.

701
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 5: I know you didn't.

702
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 4: What prompted the desire to go to New York? Like,

703
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 4: what did you So you're saying by your junior year

704
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 4: you wanted to get more serious about your music career.

705
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 9: And definitely I didn't know at the time at that

706
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 9: point or we were. We were just it was more

707
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 9: h two oh, it was an organization.

708
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 8: Before it was a hip hop group.

709
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 9: So so explain what was a hip hop organization that

710
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 9: we started on campus where we we would throw like

711
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 9: rap battles and free shows and you know, we do fundraisers.

712
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 8: We did one for J. Dillislopis.

713
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 9: So it was just something for us to infuse hip

714
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 9: hop on campus and you get to use all the

715
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 9: campus you know, speakers and all of that for free.

716
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 8: So you know, that's what it was.

717
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 9: So you know, anybody on campus, and we extended to

718
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 9: the community, could be a part of the organization. But

719
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 9: you know, there were five of us that just hung

720
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 9: out more, did music together more, and we ended up

721
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 9: becoming Koli High.

722
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 8: Okay, that's what that that's how that kind.

723
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: Of So Kolia is a collective as opposed to a

724
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: group per se.

725
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, collective that came.

726
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how did you grab the attention of.

727
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 8: Nine Wonder at this time?

728
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 9: This a summer and h two oh the organization we're

729
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 9: doing a mixtape, so you know, we got people from

730
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 9: the campus, people from the community. Everybody does something on

731
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 9: this particular mixtape. I wrote and recorded my first two songs.

732
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 9: My best friend knew that, you know, I loved hip hop,

733
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 9: wanted to rap, so he was just like, yo, just

734
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 9: do it for fun.

735
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 8: Nobody gonna judge you.

736
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 9: So I do this this these two songs put on

737
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 9: the mixtape, and another guy in the organization at the

738
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 9: time is shadowing Knife, like he's learning how to lose

739
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 9: fruity loops and all this. So he's like, well, nine,

740
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 9: you know, I got this organization, all these kids, do

741
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 9: you mind coming and talk to us. Knife was like yeah,

742
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 9: So we go to you know, this guy's his name

743
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 9: is Foolery, who's in Cooley Hot. We went to his house.

744
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 9: It was probably like fifteen to twenty of us. Nine

745
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 9: comes at the time. He plays us snippets of the

746
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 9: Minstrel Show because it's not out yet. Oh, I get

747
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 9: to hear a genius. He's telling us about you know,

748
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 9: how he got with Jay and recorded thread like.

749
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 8: You know, we're just all these kids.

750
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 9: It's like campfire, and you know, because he's at the

751
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 9: time for us, like the biggest thing from North Carolina

752
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 9: outside of Pete Popo. And after that, he listens to

753
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 9: the mixtape top to bottom and when it gets to

754
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 9: my song, it just caught his ear automatic.

755
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 8: He listened to it probably ten times in a row.

756
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 5: And the song.

757
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 9: I listened to him was like, bro, the what you heard,

758
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 9: but it's it's called The Life. Yeah, the Life, And

759
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 9: he was like he looked at everybody and its sound

760
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 9: like we got people that are in groups that have

761
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 9: been doing music for years that you know, got shows

762
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 9: that are traveling, and he goes, that's your star right there.

763
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh.

764
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: I remember him speaking on you early, I mean way

765
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 4: before social media like okay player and like other platforms,

766
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: just texting whatever. That he was like, yo, I found

767
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: the one I got. Like he was super early, you know,

768
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: with with with planting the seeds, with with getting your

769
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: name out there.

770
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: But I mean at the time, what would you who

771
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: were your your.

772
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 4: Your idols or at least your the mcs that you

773
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: kind of looked up to as far as like getting

774
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: your style from.

775
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 8: And at that time, like I went, I want.

776
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: To ask, like who are your top five rappers? But

777
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: I mean, like just.

778
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 9: At that like I went through different phases of discovery

779
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 9: just because of who I were. I was from, Like

780
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 9: being in snow Hill, it wasn't like, you know, like

781
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 9: I said, you can go to a lot of hip

782
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 9: hop shows and we had like a record store on

783
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 9: the corner.

784
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 8: I could just go get CD.

785
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 9: So a lot of like hip hop artists I might

786
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 9: have got laid on like black on both sides. I

787
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 9: didn't he until I got in college, you know. So

788
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 9: at this time my phase J is still my favorite rapper.

789
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 9: But now I'm getting really deep into Most Death and

790
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 9: I'm listening to Common Resurrections so to lib quality, Like

791
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 9: I'm really diving into their catalogs and they're my biggest

792
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 9: influences at this time, you know though growing up, you

793
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 9: know and still Lauren, I listened to Lauren Clean my

794
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 9: Teeth for nas Biggie J. But at this time I'm

795
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 9: really getting into the rocket sound. So that at that point,

796
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 9: that's my biggest influence.

797
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: Okay with what Ninth third, Like, how long was it

798
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 4: until you two collaborated on his uh his dream merchant?

799
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so.

800
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 8: At the time he said that this was maybe like.

801
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Volume two, right, volume two, Yeah, seven, I remember that.

802
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 9: So I met him and he heard those two songs,

803
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 9: like September October of two thousand and five, we did

804
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 9: our first song together maybe like five or six months

805
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 9: after that, uh tab one in Coolie High hit Ninth

806
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 9: during Christmas one time He's like nine jokingly throw us

807
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 9: some beats and he just I am them three beats.

808
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 8: Like Merry Christmas.

809
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 9: So those were the first songs that I got to

810
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 9: rap over of his. The first then the next song

811
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 9: where you know, he was like come to the studio.

812
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 9: Like he always kind of took us under his wing.

813
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 9: It just be random, like I would be at work

814
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 9: at foot Action and I get a text like yo,

815
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 9: Ninth told us to pull up at the studio just

816
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 9: out the blue.

817
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 8: So I'm just I'm like, bass, I gotta go, Like

818
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 8: straight up. I was like I gotta go, and they they.

819
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 9: Were like so cool and supportive of that heard you

820
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 9: before they knew what out.

821
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 8: I was a good worker. I was so good weird

822
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 8: they couldn't.

823
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: Even front not inup. You remember Carmichael's story about for

824
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: that she was completely from North Carolina. His people were

825
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: not to see his potential.

826
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 5: Guess he wasn't.

827
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: I was expecting your story to go a whole another way. Yeah,

828
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: so you're was returning the Big Girl, your first mix,

829
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: your first solo.

830
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 8: First solo project. Okay, this summer January twenty ten.

831
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: Okay, yep, So how long did that take to formulate

832
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: and put together and execute?

833
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 9: Let me see, I signed with nine in two thousand

834
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 9: and eight, two thousand and nine, and I worked and worked,

835
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 9: so we probably worked. I just was recording songs. I

836
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 9: don't think it was like I'm doing a project. I

837
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 9: was just recording songs. And I probably recorded songs for

838
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 9: two years. So we worked on it for two years,

839
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 9: just trying to get my cadence. I still had so

840
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 9: much to learn, like I go back, like tone of

841
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 9: my voice, inflections, keeping a consistent cadence, or knowing when

842
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 9: to switch it in the right spot.

843
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: How is he as a coach great?

844
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 8: Like night?

845
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 9: People gotta understand before Knife wanted to be a producer.

846
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 9: He wanted to be a teacher, so he's automatically just

847
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 9: still super patient. So he was super patient with me.

848
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 9: I would get more frustrated with myself than he would.

849
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 9: So he's a great teacher. Like the way he explained

850
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 9: things and broke things down and you know, allowed you,

851
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 9: you know, to figure it out too, Like I didn't

852
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 9: have to be perfect, but he saw enough growth was like, okay,

853
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 9: we could put out your first mixtape and just keep

854
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 9: building on it, Like great teacher, phenomenal.

855
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 10: Did you get to be in the studio and make

856
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 10: some of these songs with folks in the studio? Was

857
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 10: everybody like sending, oh no, you got it, Like you

858
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 10: gotta understand. Like when Knife creates, he likes people and

859
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 10: energy around him. So and at the time, the studio

860
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 10: is on North Carolina Central's campus, so it's open door,

861
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 10: so you might walk in some days it might be

862
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 10: twenty thirty people in there, and so like it was

863
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 10: so much pressure for me because I'm the opposite when

864
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 10: I create. You know, now I'm more about to ride

865
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 10: around anybody.

866
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 9: But at that time, like trying to figure it out

867
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 9: and not being confident you step in the booth and

868
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 9: it's twenty people looking at you like what you're about

869
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 9: to do, and.

870
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 8: Then you know you're doing it and it ain't all

871
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 8: the way right.

872
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 9: So he keeps stopping you, trying to coach you, and

873
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 9: it's just like I'm going about to go.

874
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 10: Crazy, and you folks like you got to be in

875
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 10: the studio with Rod Digga, like Matt Miller.

876
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 9: Rod Digga, Jean Gray came and worked on I think

877
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 9: they were trying to work on Phoenix at the time.

878
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 9: I was there when Wile and Knife were working on

879
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 9: Back to the feature. Big Sean came through. He and

880
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 9: Knife were working on some joints.

881
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: What was it like working with Mac Miller?

882
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 8: And oh that was that was dope. That was easy.

883
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 8: That was fun.

884
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 9: Not Mac pulled up. I don't even remember what year was,

885
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 9: might have been like twenty eleven. He was coming to

886
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 9: see ninth or whatever and just hey, you've met Mac.

887
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 8: It's like, you know, how.

888
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 9: Open and yeah, chill, his his spirit is so you know,

889
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 9: he heard like some songs. He was like, Yo, you're dope.

890
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 9: He was like, let's do some joints. Like it's just

891
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 9: that easy. Like you know, so when.

892
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: You collaborate with artists. Is it more just like send

893
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: me a sixteen or like or do you work in

894
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: real time with them? Sometimes?

895
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 8: And it's different.

896
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 9: Earlier on it was just like, yo, just send me

897
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 9: some sixteens cause at the time I'm just trying to

898
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 9: prove I could rap. Now now it's different, like for

899
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 9: me to even reach out, I got to hear you

900
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 9: on the song. It don't even matter what your celebrity is.

901
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 9: If I don't hear you, like it could be a

902
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 9: new artist if I hear their voice, Oh, they be

903
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 9: dope on this and I'm calling you so it's gotta

904
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 9: fit right. A lot of times, you know, I tell

905
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 9: them what the concept is. But you know, I don't

906
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 9: like to box people in because I want people to

907
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 9: be as creative as they want to be. So in

908
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 9: the same way, Kendrick called me and told me, like, Yo,

909
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 9: this song is about complexion. You know, you know how

910
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 9: it goes, but boom, then I'm not trying to pigeonhole you.

911
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 9: So that's what it is for me. I like people

912
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 9: to be able to create how they create. And if

913
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 9: it he's tweaking and we'll work on it, or we're

914
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 9: just flipping and turn into something else, put a different

915
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 9: beat on it and make it a new song.

916
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 8: But that's how we that's how I create.

917
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 10: It's hard to say that's my favorite Rhapsody verse, but

918
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 10: damn that verse, that complexion.

919
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 8: Oh thank you?

920
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 5: Awesome. Can I just ask one more question because you

921
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: were talking about.

922
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: It's your shoe too?

923
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: Oh thank you.

924
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 10: I don't want to fast forward to eve or anything,

925
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 10: but I just want to fast forward for a minute

926
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 10: on the subject. Because on that subject, how do you

927
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 10: propose to Queen Latifa, who doesn't do features like that?

928
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: Time out? How did you get that verse out?

929
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 8: That's what I.

930
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: Don't want to sell short. I'm not how did you

931
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: get that verse out?

932
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 5: But we just pulled up to a creer. We worked

933
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: on it.

934
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 8: That she killed, that didn't she.

935
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that.

936
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 4: I thought, all right, when I first heard it, I thought, Okay,

937
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: she's going to sing the hook.

938
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 8: Or something a lot.

939
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: And then when she started spinning, I was like, oh wait,

940
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: is Raps changing up? You know, because I'm similar, Like

941
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: we had a situation where demoed Big Daddy Kane and

942
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: and instead wound up doing it himself. So at first

943
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: I thought that's what you you were headed to do.

944
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, ship, like he still has it?

945
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 10: I mean when the last time we've heard in Queen

946
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 10: la tiva picture. I'm just I do anyone I thought

947
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 10: that you.

948
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: One was super fire? I didn't.

949
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how long? What was the what was

950
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: the process or the least.

951
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: Please the process of.

952
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: Because no, this is what I'm asking and I'm not no,

953
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 4: I'm not even being snarky. Here's the reason for my asking.

954
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of times when you ask for

955
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 4: a favor or verse, especially from someone of stature, depending

956
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 4: on how they feel about you. And you know, there's

957
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: some people that like if Tarika asked them, you know,

958
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: I'll say that eighty five percent of the time, someone's

959
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: gonna bring their a game. But then there's sometimes when

960
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: people just like maybe phone it in and that I've

961
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: had We've had a few situations where the verse was

962
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: phoned in.

963
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: Wow, and it's like well no, no, no.

964
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 4: It was just like which one of us is gonna

965
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 4: say no, can you do it again?

966
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: Like I feel bad when it's that situation where you

967
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: have to.

968
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 8: And so.

969
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like what's all right? This is all gonna ask

970
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 4: this is yes, no question. I feel like no, no, no,

971
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 4: this is yes. It was that her verse coming in

972
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: the door, and that was it and no more.

973
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: No we were or was it worked on?

974
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 9: And it was it was this is this is how

975
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 9: it happened. She invited me to a house to work

976
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 9: on the on the verse. I went to her into

977
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 9: her home in the studio, we talked, we worked on

978
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 9: the verse, and we got the song that song.

979
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Right. No, no, that's all I wanted to know.

980
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: I wanted to know more or less, like how many

981
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: takes and how many redrafts and rewrites and that sort

982
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: of because one draft?

983
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 5: Okay, can we can we ask about another hard to

984
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 5: get person? Can we ask? Can we ask about D'Angel?

985
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: Did y'all pull that? Wait?

986
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell y'all something. This motherfucker and something he

987
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 4: started and finishing. I'm gonna tell you something. Me and D.

988
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 8: I love him.

989
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: I just one day I decided to count the paces

990
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: from my house to his house. Currently, now me and

991
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: D have been neighbors. I'm gonna be knowiced to me.

992
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: I didn't know that we.

993
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: Were neighbors for five years and then we've.

994
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: Been neighbors for ten years, and one day I was like, wait,

995
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 4: let me count.

996
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: I have a doctor's appointment that's somewhere towards his crib.

997
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm literally going to count the paces

998
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: seventy six steps.

999
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 5: Yoed us wow, and the albums and a song title.

1000
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 10: I don't know what seventy six steps.

1001
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: We've lived seventy six steps from each other for the

1002
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: last ten years and we ain't been to each other's

1003
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: crib yet.

1004
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 8: That's crazy for the rect.

1005
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 6: Like six months in di'angelo time, So like, don't take

1006
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 6: offense this guy.

1007
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: He and Steve.

1008
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: Steve was like one of the many engineers on Voodoo

1009
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: and Black Uh, but say Black Messiah, Black Messiah.

1010
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how I didn't do it?

1011
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: How did you get D'Angelo on the record?

1012
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 8: Yo?

1013
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: And he's doing a lot on that.

1014
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 4: He's doing arrangements on the record, so it wasn't even like.

1015
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: OK, I'm gonna send just this hook game. He went

1016
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: in like he's even bobbing in and out. Whatever. How

1017
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: did that happen?

1018
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 8: Bud, By the grace of God the universe, Like.

1019
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: You don't even know it that real?

1020
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 8: It was, it was.

1021
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 9: It's all chain reaction if we had to pick that sample,

1022
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 9: if just didn't want to get on it, we don't.

1023
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 9: We don't get D'Angelo like out the gate. I knew

1024
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 9: I wanted to do a Wu Tang flip because of

1025
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 9: Nicole Bus record that I I love that record. So

1026
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 9: Knife was going through all the Wu Tang sample banks

1027
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 9: and he ends up picking the Liquid Swore joints.

1028
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 8: So he's like, this is the one. He sent it

1029
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 8: to me. He's like, what you think? It's like, let's

1030
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 8: run with it.

1031
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 9: So he's like, well, if we do it, we got

1032
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 9: to ask for Jesus blessing and ask him to get

1033
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 9: on it because it's his bigger, biggest record.

1034
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 8: Bet we do that. Jesus says yes, so that that's

1035
00:50:59,400 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 8: a feat in.

1036
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 9: It self for giggit or even one. Let us do

1037
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 9: it and be like yeah, I'll get on it too.

1038
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 9: So we're in the studio mixing with Young Guru like

1039
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 9: like mixing and at the time, like the WU documentary

1040
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 9: of Mike's and Minutes is out, so they're touring, so

1041
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 9: we're trying to schedule like how we can get Jig

1042
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 9: in the studio to get this verse while he's touring.

1043
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 9: While I'm trying to meet deadlines. So he's talking to

1044
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 9: you know, his man to handle that. But you know,

1045
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 9: old boy on the other phone says, well, I'm also

1046
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 9: working with D'Angelo and he happens to be big fans

1047
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 9: of both Ninth One Day and Rhapsody, and I think

1048
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 9: it'd be dope if y'all work together. So it's just like, which, well,

1049
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 9: I mean what you want, Like I'm ready to do

1050
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 9: like a whole new joint. Like I'm like, what do

1051
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 9: you honesaid, I could send him the whole album, like

1052
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 9: we could do some new stuff. I guess there's some

1053
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 9: beats like whatever he wants. I say, he got something,

1054
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 9: he can send it, I can finish it, you know.

1055
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 9: And he was like, nah, I think I think the

1056
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 9: joint that you send Jizzz, you know, would be dope.

1057
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 8: So we send it to him.

1058
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 9: I'm flying all over the place shooting videos, doing press,

1059
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 9: trying to get ready for the album. So he calls

1060
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 9: Knife at the studio and he and Ninth have a conversation.

1061
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 9: But you know, he talks about he's a fan that

1062
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 9: you know how much Wu Tang and the Liquid Swore

1063
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 9: and Liquid Sword Song meant to him like everybody has

1064
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 9: a memory attached to that song, and how much he

1065
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 9: loves Jigs because you know, that was the first person

1066
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 9: from WU that he worked with. So it's just all

1067
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 9: these factors. So you know, he was like, I love

1068
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 9: the record. I love to do it. So you know,

1069
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 9: we got him in the studio. You know he likes

1070
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 9: to record on tape. We probably waited maybe like two weeks.

1071
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: That is a record time waiting two weeks. That's like.

1072
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 9: Two maybe three at most, like but yeah, like he

1073
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 9: probably went in the studio every day for like seven days,

1074
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 9: even even when I was we paid for the studio,

1075
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 9: but when like we paid for a certain time, even

1076
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 9: when that was out, he was like, I'm not finished.

1077
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 9: I'll pay for the rest to finish it. I'm just like, yo,

1078
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 9: this is crazy.

1079
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: I was wondering because, yeah, I was wondering if he

1080
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 4: did his thing on tape because it's all his vocals

1081
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: are very speeded oppressive.

1082
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 8: But yeah, he killed it.

1083
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 5: He ain't featuring nowhere else either.

1084
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 2: What do you do background vocals? And you said you're arranged,

1085
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: well arranged.

1086
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: Back, but he doesn't do mere background vocals.

1087
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 8: It's just the way he played with his voice.

1088
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, and that's majestic.

1089
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 9: And what was ill for me is I did like

1090
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 9: a mock cook before I knew he was going to

1091
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 9: be on it, like the place hold it. To hear

1092
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 9: him sing it, like I was like, yeah, I was

1093
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 9: like I thought he was gonna write something new like

1094
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 9: that in himself was ill to me.

1095
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: But you know how to I mean people.

1096
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 6: We look up to our d'angelo's and think that they

1097
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 6: you know, that there are another level, but there's still

1098
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 6: big time music fans, you know, and they fall in

1099
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 6: love with something when they hear it, and they don't

1100
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 6: need to change it, they just recreate it.

1101
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1102
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: So what I'm sort of skipping to your second album

1103
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 4: and so what was the process in the decision to

1104
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: roll with rock Nation for yourself?

1105
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 9: Oh, we knew that, you know, as an indie label,

1106
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 9: we can only do so much like budget and marketing

1107
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 9: wise and really getting the exposure that I wanted. So

1108
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 9: you know, when we took the meeting with rock One,

1109
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 9: I'm a big j fan Offgate, but walking into the

1110
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 9: building and at the time, Shaka Pilgrim was the president

1111
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 9: and you walk in and fifty percent of the staff

1112
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 9: of women and it's so so many different coaches, and

1113
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 9: we came in with Lailor's wisdom probably eighty percent done.

1114
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 9: And they didn't ask us to change or sing why

1115
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 9: not one single thing. It was always all right, what

1116
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 9: do y'all want to do? What you envision? Like what

1117
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 9: are you thinking of the music? They never every eve,

1118
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 9: they didn't ask to change or touch anything. And so

1119
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 9: to me, like the energy and just how much they

1120
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 9: love the culture. It didn't seem like I've been to

1121
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 9: death jam I think in Atlantic before, but this was

1122
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 9: this was different. This was all about culture and just

1123
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 9: music and they were really about growing with me. Like

1124
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 9: they wasn't pressure to have a radio single or it

1125
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 9: was just like, you know, we believe in you and

1126
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 9: your talent.

1127
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 8: We just want to how can we help? That's what

1128
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 8: it was. So that's why.

1129
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: And how did you feel the morning that the nominations

1130
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: came out?

1131
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 8: And I don't know for you, it's kind of phone call.

1132
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: Yo.

1133
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 9: Ninth was the first one that hit me because I

1134
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 9: was in la This was like five in the morning,

1135
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 9: so he hit me.

1136
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 8: He was like, Yo, you nominated and you nominated.

1137
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 9: Uh, it wasn't twice twice so I was like, yo,

1138
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 9: what like yo to be nominated, but to even be

1139
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 9: nominated twice like that was crazy for me. It was

1140
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 9: just like people were calling me. I couldn't even answer

1141
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 9: the phone. I had to just sit back and reflect, like, Yo,

1142
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 9: we're here, Like this is a different bar to be

1143
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 9: recognized at the highest level of music when a of

1144
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 9: awards show and then not have no Billboard hits and

1145
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 9: no platinum records, and to be in a category with

1146
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 9: Jay Z and Kendrick Lamar at the same time.

1147
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 8: It's just like man as.

1148
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 10: Not have to change nothing, not even have to play

1149
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 10: on the tight dress.

1150
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 9: I cried a little bit, you know, but yeah, I

1151
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 9: was thankful that I stayed the course of anything.

1152
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: So I have to say that your your whole process

1153
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 4: of crafting the Eve album, it's just some amazing ass shit,

1154
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 4: you know, like where where did the idea even come

1155
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: from for crafting this? This album as an homage to

1156
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: the spirit of the black woman in America in the

1157
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: world and their effect like where's the Genesis and the

1158
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: seed born?

1159
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 9: Last summer summer twenty eighteen, I was doing an interview

1160
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 9: for the Oxford and this guy named Lamar Wilson he

1161
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 9: was writing a piece on the lineage of Carolina musicians,

1162
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 9: and so he was connecting me with Nina Simone and ROBERTA.

1163
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 9: Flat so like I was just like, yo, I didn't

1164
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 9: I never thought of me connecting with them in that

1165
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 9: way because we just seemed like too, like I just

1166
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 9: look I put them up here, like there's no way

1167
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 9: like reconnected. But the way he broke it down, like

1168
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 9: you're both soul for you know, you're both lyrical. You

1169
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 9: know you both reflect the times and talk about what's

1170
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 9: going on in the community, your storytellers. I was like, man,

1171
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 9: I never thought about it in that way like I

1172
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 9: do come from their family tree. And it made me think, like, yo,

1173
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 9: when I do interviews and people say who are you

1174
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 9: influenced by? Yeah, I say Queen my teeth for MC

1175
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 9: like Lauryn Hill, but I talk about Sicily Tyson, talk

1176
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 9: about I talk about Nikki Giavanni, you know, Maya Angelo,

1177
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 9: And I'm just like man, when I think about who

1178
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 9: I am and who I'm inspired by. Of course, you

1179
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 9: have your village, your mom, but there are so many

1180
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 9: black women that I look up to and too. It

1181
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 9: gave me away creatively to show that there are so

1182
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 9: many different sides of me too, you know. People like

1183
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 9: to say or kind of put me in a box

1184
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 9: sometimes based on the music that I make.

1185
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 8: That you know I had.

1186
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 9: We were in a studio one time and the dude

1187
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 9: was like, Yo, we thought like a party for y'all's

1188
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 9: just like burning incense and y'all listening to my dude

1189
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 9: and all this, And.

1190
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 8: I'm just like, bro, like what are you talking about?

1191
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 9: Like I grew up on Luke, I listened to Go Go,

1192
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 9: growing up, like I'm from snow Hill, North Carolina, Like

1193
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 9: That's the Sticks, like Boon's Fall, Like we listened to everything.

1194
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 8: So there were so many sides of me.

1195
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 9: So it's like this is a way where I could

1196
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 9: take a different woman to not only describe like my

1197
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 9: different personalities, but also talk about them and continue their

1198
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 9: legacies and say that we all are coming all come

1199
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 9: from a family tree. I think after I did that interview,

1200
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 9: like I went home and I'd always wanted to do

1201
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 9: a song about being a tomboy, especially in this day

1202
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 9: and age and what that looks like. And I did

1203
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 9: it because of the way I started the song when

1204
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 9: Aaliyah was alive, and I was like I'm gonna just

1205
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 9: call it Aliyah, And as soon as.

1206
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 8: I did that, it all just clicked came together.

1207
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, the conversation, it's like, oh, I got this song, Alia,

1208
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 9: I could do this with this this Felicia Rashad taught

1209
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 9: me about motherly love, Nikki Giovanni taught.

1210
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 8: Me the power words and blackness like.

1211
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the videos, which I also feel are crucial

1212
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 4: components to the vision of that, like what were the

1213
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: concepts for the well, not the concepts, but you know

1214
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: as far as like I personally want you to make

1215
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: a video almost for every song.

1216
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 5: I know too too.

1217
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 9: I'm trying to make it happen right now. We just

1218
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 9: did a feenie too long ago. Yeah, we did a feenie.

1219
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 9: I still want to add to it. It ain't all

1220
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 9: the way right.

1221
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 5: Wait, so so far you got a Phoenie. What videos

1222
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 5: do you have for which?

1223
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, oprahj FENI will be the third one. The next

1224
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 9: one I probably want to do Cleo, whoop be, Aliya, Serena.

1225
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 8: I want to do one for every song like I

1226
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 8: see it.

1227
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 5: So no problem putting this list together.

1228
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned the interview that you left earth Kit

1229
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: was it just for spacing on the album or just spacey.

1230
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 8: The first draft, we had twenty three songs.

1231
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 9: You know, we we knew like it's too long because

1232
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 9: people today can't digest music in the same way, the

1233
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 9: same way.

1234
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 8: Like they they tap out it.

1235
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 9: At first, I was going to do a part one

1236
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 9: and a part two, so sonically, you know, we have

1237
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 9: this one in the part two is gonna be. It

1238
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 9: was gonna be way more soul for and more boombab heavy.

1239
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 9: That was gonna be like Felicia Rashad DJ Spinderella, she

1240
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 9: has a song.

1241
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: Who we are going to get a sequel?

1242
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 8: Harriet? I was, I got, I got different ideas. That's

1243
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 8: more music coming.

1244
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 10: I love you what it's so journal route and you

1245
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 10: said I'm not going to do to Harriet, So I

1246
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 10: was like, maybe there's a Yeah.

1247
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 8: I was Harry's Journal, which when do I name it?

1248
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 8: But yeah, so but there's there's I do like forty women.

1249
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 4: As far as where you are right now, like what

1250
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: do you feel that your goals are, Like do you

1251
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 4: have do you have a five year plan as far

1252
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 4: as like this point from now, like developing other acts

1253
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: or like just make more music.

1254
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 8: Or definitely make more music. I think it's the foundation

1255
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 8: of everything.

1256
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 9: But I want to expand artistically because you know the

1257
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 9: way I write, Like I want to get into not

1258
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 9: only writing songs that I want to write films. I

1259
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 9: want to get behind the camera and produce documentaries. I

1260
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 9: was in the in the Rock office with Ti Ti today.

1261
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 9: He was like, rap, you need writes, bet pop records.

1262
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 9: It's like, you know, so you know, I definitely want

1263
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 9: to try it. Like I'm just like, let's try and

1264
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 9: see what happens. Just but just do a lot of

1265
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 9: more things artistically. I thought about starting a label. I

1266
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 9: don't know how I feel about that yet. But Missa

1267
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 9: Hilton Son Nicole Brown, he's an EMC, so I want

1268
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 9: to help. I'm helping because you can produce his album.

1269
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 9: That will be my first time like taking that role. Okay,

1270
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 9: but yeah, just like really expand on that, but always

1271
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 9: putting out music, giving.

1272
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: Back to what was given to you. Okay, I see that.

1273
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 4: Well, you know again from the Bomber Arts, we really

1274
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 4: thank you for your your your talent and your wisdom and.

1275
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 5: All that blackness, all that queenness. That's what I'm thinking.

1276
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 5: You can't really say that, I'm just speaking for you.

1277
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 5: Can for the sisters. Thank you.

1278
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: I can think you can't thank you in the queenness.

1279
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: We can say that too, you can.

1280
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 5: You didn't, so I was just feeling like Jewish, say.

1281
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: Have you been to Egypt? Because you.

1282
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get that we should be together.

1283
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go the sugar Steve. Yes, I would

1284
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 4: pay either well, that is, I should pay for us

1285
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 4: to go. That's another episode, of course, Supreme. Ladies and gentlemen,

1286
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 4: thank you one more time.

1287
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Rhaps did he give it up all right?

1288
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 4: Or and behalf of light and Steve and bost Bill

1289
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: and yes, even unpaid Bill and font Tiicola, who incidentally,

1290
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 4: uh is still out getting cigarettes and he said he'll

1291
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: be be back home any moment. Uh cigarettes, So hurry

1292
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 4: up man.

1293
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: He said he was going to get some smokes two

1294
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: years ago.

1295
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 4: He's fixing his bathroom now now it's now, let's getting

1296
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: some cigarettes.

1297
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: All right.

1298
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 4: This is quest Love, and we'll see you on the

1299
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 4: next go round, of course, Love Supreme.

1300
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 4: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,760
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