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Thanks for listening to The 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest from Buckhead buck 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Sexton dot com. Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. This 28 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: is Ben Weingarten in for Buck Sexton, and it's always 29 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: an honor and privilege to fill his big shoes and 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: talk to you this incredible, patriotic, amazing American audience. And 31 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: we've got a heck of a week for you. And 32 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I think the running theme of this week is that 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: we're going to touch on all the third rails that 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: you can't talk about. On China and our ruling class, 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: is collusion with it, the fraud of wokeism, and on 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: racism masquerading as anti racism, on election integrity questions you're 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: not supposed to be able to ask, around the origins 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: of the coronavirus, and on and on, And I think 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: the running theme is going to be, ultimately, when we 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: look back on it, the Commanding Heights of society, the 41 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: ruling class wanting to dominate every aspect of your life, 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: to increase its power, grow its wealth, and its privilege, 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: and to shut you up and to try to shunt 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: you out of American life. And we're not going to 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: let that happen to this country. We're going to defend 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: the American way of life. So I was so amped 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: up yesterday that I didn't formally introduce myself. So if 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: you haven't heard me as a guest hosting this program before, 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: my name is Ben Weingarten. I'm deputy editor of Real 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: Clear Investigations, a senior contributor at The Federalist, and you 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: can also read me in places like news Week and 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Epic Times. Last year I came out with my first book, 53 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: American Ingrate, ilhan Omar and the Progressive Islamist of the 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Takeover of the Democratic Party, which predicted the radicalism that 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: we're seeing on display from the right, from the White 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: House on down to grade schools across this country. Today, 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: you can follow me on Twitter at b H. Winegarden 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: and keep up with my work at Winegarden dot substack 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: dot com and before we jump in today. Also worth 60 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: noting the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show will start 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: next Monday at New and Eastern Time, and Jesse Kelly 62 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: will be replacing Bucks six pm time swout the following Monday, 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: on June twenty eighth. So today's program, we're gonna have 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: a few great guests talking about allegations of election fraud 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: in Georgia with Paul Sperry, the decline of New York 66 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: and what its implications are for America with Seth Baron, 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: author of a great new book on that subject, and 68 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: then also a little bit of a news you can 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: use how to fight back against the wokeism pervading every 70 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: aspect of our society today. Because it's so imperative to 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: not just be negative and not just assess and observe 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: what appears to be this ongoing onslaught that's unstoppable. It's 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: imperative that we actually fight back in an affirmative way, 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: in the same way that a Chris Rufo fights back 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: with critical race theory, or a Governor Ronda Santis fights 76 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: back against wokeism in all of its forms within his state. 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: It's time to go on offense with that. Let's talk 78 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: a little bit first about the onslaught that we face, 79 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: and I alluded to this yesterday in talking about what 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: we have on display at the G seven and beyond 81 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: in this wild European vacation for putative President Joe Biden, 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: the sort of weekend at Biden presidency. We have a decadent, dying, 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: self loathing ruling class, and it exposes itself to be 84 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the charade that it is every single day. Yesterday, the 85 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: big news from bumbling President Biden's euro Pan trip was 86 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: his speaking with NATO officials and NATO for one of 87 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: the first times recognize the problem of China. But what 88 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: did it say about China in this resolution or communicate 89 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: that it came to it said this in part, China 90 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: stated ambitions and assertive behavior presents systemic challenges to the 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: rules based international order and to areas relevant to Alliance security. 92 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: We are concerned those coercive policies which stand in contrast 93 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: to the fundamental values and trine in the Washington Treaty. 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: It's rapidly it's expanding its nuclear arsenal with more warheads 95 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: and a larger number of sophisticated delivery systems to establish 96 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: a nuclear triad. It goes on to talk about military 97 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: civil fusion strategy. Essentially that everything is part of the 98 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party strategy for dominance, and it talks about 99 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: its cooperation militarily of course, with Russia and beyond. We 100 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: remain concerned with China's frequent lack of transparency and use 101 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: of disinformation. We call in China uphold its international commitments 102 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: and to act responsively in the international system, including the space, 103 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: cyber and maritime domains, and keeping with its role as 104 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: a major power. It's not worth the paper that it's 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: printed on. That's the real takeaway from quotes like that. 106 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: We're talking decades into china strategy to be the dominant 107 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: world power, to no longer buy it its time and 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: hide its capabilities, but actively aggressively engaging in every single domain, 109 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: to be the dominant player in the world, and all 110 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now NATO recognizes it, and this is 111 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: what it claims the threat is. And then it goes 112 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: on to say NATO maintains a constructive dialogue with China 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: where possible. We welcome opportunities to engage with China and 114 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: areas of relevance to the Alliance and to common challenges 115 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: such as climate change. With the world's largest polluter, who 116 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, will cheat on any kind of deal you 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: ever come to on environmentalism, who lies, cheats and steals 118 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: as a regular practice, who never lives up to its 119 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: international commitments. But let's have a constructive dialogue where possible, 120 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: engaging with China, with China's higher strategy to become a 121 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: dominant world power, and our globalist elite have been addicted 122 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: to that engagement because they think they're going to enrich 123 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: themselves off of it, or they think China's going to 124 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: be the dominant power and better to cowtown now rather 125 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: than later, thinking that ultimately they won't get their heads 126 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: chopped off by the Chinese Communist Party statement again not 127 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: worth the paper it's printed on. Allies urged China to 128 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: engage meaningfully and dialogue confidence voting in transparency measures regarding 129 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: its nuclear capabilities in doctrine, reciprocal transparency and understanding would 130 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: benefit both NATO and China. I mean, it's such a joke. 131 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: How do they even write this stuff? Who even thinks 132 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: this stuff up? And how much must they be laughing 133 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: in Beijing about statements like this while the onslaught to 134 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: be the dominant world power continues apace, and oh, by 135 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: the way, we've just self, we've just destroyed ourselves, committed 136 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: suicide for more than twelve months as a consequence of 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: something that almost assured We came from a virology lab 138 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: in Wuhan where there was military research going on. And 139 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: we know, by the way that China, of course, has 140 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: been keenly interested in bioweaponry and biowarfare in its doctrine, 141 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: in its own rhetoric and statements for years. But what 142 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: does NATO's General secretary say in a comment in response 143 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: to I guess this portion of the communicate, China is 144 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: not our adversary, but the balance of power is shifting. 145 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: China's not our adversary. Oh my god, you're talking about 146 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: the General secretary of NATO. China's not our adversary. In 147 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, is there any greater measure of how 148 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: out to lunch the elite are, or that they're just 149 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: lying through their teeth and they know it to be so, 150 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: and they can't admit it either fear it or again 151 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: they're trying to coo taw to their future masters. And 152 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: where's the Biden administration in all this? Here's what it 153 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: had to say according to the Chinese Communist Party mouthpiece 154 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,479 Speaker 1: the Global Times. Recently, according to the China Central Television, 155 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Blincoln, Secretary of States, so that the recent series 156 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: of contacts between the US and China are beneficial to 157 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: bilateral relations, and the US is looking forward to increasing 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: contact and exchanges with China at all levels. Think about 159 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: the insanity of that. You're talking about the regime that 160 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: wants to be the dominant power on the earth to 161 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: supplant the United States, that in their own rhetoric and 162 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: in their own doctrine puts America as the number one enemy. 163 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: And according to the CCP mouthpiece, US is looking forward 164 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: to increasing contact and exchanges with China at all levels. 165 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Even if you don't believe them. Where's the Biden administration 166 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: saying no, Where's the Biden administration saying We're going to 167 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: cut off all ties. We are going to unplug, disconnect 168 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: from the Chinese Communist Party in every strategically significant area 169 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: and beyond because it poses a threat, and it lays 170 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: out the threat to us every single day in word 171 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: and deed. The fact that you don't see that tells 172 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: everything you need to know about how compromised, our so 173 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: called ruling class is and meanwhile with a great uniter 174 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: who refrains from me and tweets just propagandized against half 175 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: the country in front of foreign leaders on foreign soil. 176 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to cut it. The Republican Party is vastly 177 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: diminished in numbers, The leadership of the Republican Party is fractured, 178 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: and the Trump wing of the party is the bulk 179 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: of the party. But it makes up a significant minority 180 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: of the American people. And we'll see significant minority of 181 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: the American people seventy four million voters, yep. Significant minority 182 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: not to be listened to. We're probably going to call 183 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: a decent percentage of them would be your actual domestic terrorists. 184 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: And we'll talk a little bit later actually about the 185 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: new National Domestic Terrorism Strategy that the administration just put 186 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: out today. There used to be a rule, you know, 187 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: for the people who talk about norms and standards, There 188 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: was a rule that domestic politics ends at the water's edge. 189 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: So what does Joe Biden do? Swamp creature par excellance, 190 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: with fifty years doing this in Washington, DC, being the 191 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: quintessential Washington establishmentarian, goes overseas and attacks roughly half the country. 192 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't know how wrong he is about where the 193 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Republican Party is, where the voters are. Excuse me, because 194 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: the leadership may not be there, but we're there. We 195 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: see everything for what it is when it comes to 196 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: our establishment, the uniparty establishment in many cases, and it's 197 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: total discussed and distaste for us. So we got a 198 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: couple of minutes left before we take a break. But 199 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: I want to delve deeper into the China theme because 200 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: it perfectly encapsulates the entire insanity of our ruling class 201 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: and how it leverages crises to both protect itself and 202 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: ultimately again of course, to assume more power. And let 203 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: me preview that with this are the benighted New York 204 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: Times yesterday got around to doing some more incremental reporting 205 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: on the Wuhan lab leak theory, and it spoke to 206 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: the so called bat lady or batwoman. She's angry the virologist. 207 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: There a quote briefly from the article doctor she has 208 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: denied accusations about Lableek and now finds herself defending the 209 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: reputation of her lab and by extension, that of her 210 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: country reached on her cell phone last week. Doctor She 211 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: said at first that she preferred not to speak directly 212 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: with the reporter, citing her institute's policies. Yet she could 213 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: barely contain her frustration. How on earth can I offer 214 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: up evidence for something where there is no evidence, she said, 215 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: her voice rising in anger during the brief, unscheduled conversation. 216 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how the world has come to this, 217 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: constantly pouring filth on an innocent scientist, she wrote in 218 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: a text message, because she's the victim here. In a 219 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: rare interview over email, she denounced the suspicions as baseless, 220 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: including the allegations that several of her colleagues may have 221 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: been ill before the outbreak emerged. The speculation boils down 222 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: to one central question. Did Doctor She's lab one Institute 223 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: of Virology hold any source of the new coronavirus before 224 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: the pandemic erupted. Doctor She's answer is an emphatic no. 225 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: This was printed as if this was crusading journalism, But 226 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about someone who in effects serves the Chinese 227 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: Communist Party, and The Times goes on to say she's 228 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: not a member of the party, which is sort of 229 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: hard to understand. Everyone there is effectively subservient to the CCP. 230 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: If you don't think that those words were dictated to her, 231 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: that she was prepared for response, and that she would 232 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: love to give this response to New York Times and 233 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: have them print it, then you haven't been You don't 234 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: understand the adversary that we're dealing with, and of course 235 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: all of you do, but the New York Times prints 236 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: this up as if this is legit. And when we 237 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: come back, I want to talk about why lab leak 238 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: is so important and goes so far beyond just this 239 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: pandemic and all the knock on effects of this pandemic backraction. 240 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: And before the break we were talking about lab leak 241 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: and it's greater significance. So why is it so important 242 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: to figure out the origins of the coronavirus? This is obvious, 243 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: but it's worth stating. First of all, it's imperative to 244 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: know the truth about what China's efforts were. It's also 245 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: imperative to know the truth about who on the US 246 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,479 Speaker 1: side or what institutions on the US side were complicit. 247 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: And the reason it's so important is because if you 248 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: want to have any justice, if you want to ensure 249 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: this never happens again. If you want to deter malign 250 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: behavior or incompetent behavior or something else related to it, 251 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: you better get to the bottom of what transpired here. 252 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: But of course we're talking months and months later, and 253 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: as I said yesterday, the smoking guns are already dead 254 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: and buried, potentially literally in some cases when we talk 255 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: about potential whistleblowers here. What the whole lab leak situation 256 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: and the origins of this coronavirus boils down to is 257 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: a broader theme of China's adversarial nature and the way 258 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: it's embedded and insinuated itself into every aspect of Western 259 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: society and the globalist project too, essentially in effect transfer 260 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: our wealth, our technology, and our power over to China. 261 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: How do I tie that to the coronavirus? Will consider 262 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: all the scandals that had to basically come together and 263 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: conspire together to end up in a place where a 264 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: leak in China would lead us to destroy ourselves here, 265 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: or a potential leak in China at the very least 266 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: you had a government scandal. It appears in terms of 267 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: the money flows into the one Hun Institute of Virology, 268 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: and then also the internal deliberations around not wanting to 269 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of lab Leak, because God forbid 270 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: it would give credence to President Trump. You have the 271 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: public health scandal of Fauci and others, not only in 272 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: terms of their relations with these Chinese virologists and beyond 273 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and the money flows, but also of course the assinine 274 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: nature of the policies. Don't wear any mask, then wear 275 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: sixty masks on your face, social distancing six feet figured 276 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: out with their thumb in the air essentially, and on 277 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: on and on lockdowns which have never been tried in 278 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: the past, and we know that there's basically been no 279 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: differences and in some cases even much better superior performance 280 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: in terms of public health in places that didn't shut 281 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: down nearly to the degree of our most draconian cities 282 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: and jurisdictions across the country. There's a medical journal scandal 283 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: which has barely even talked about, which I'll delve into briefly. 284 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: And then of course there's the media scandal about we 285 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: can't look into lab leak, we needn't. We can't take 286 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: as legitimate or acceptable anything from Trump or Pompeo or 287 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: Cotton and beyond. The medical journal part of this is 288 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: really worth noting briefly, and Melissa Chen of The Spectator 289 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: put out a must read Twitter thread on this which 290 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I'll share briefly from. She's looking at an article in 291 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: the Great publication Unheard, and she notes the media's culpability 292 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: in suppressing lab leak is obvious, but a larger share 293 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: of the blame falls upon science journal reviewers and publishers, 294 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: the scientific establishment. They shut down discussion and discredited alternatives. 295 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: And this article from Unheard quote scientists talking about the 296 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: fact that the medical journals themselves are partially responsible for 297 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: the cover up, which goes to my point yesterday about 298 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: the fact that even public health is being corrupted effectively 299 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: by politics. The article says the Paris Group, for instance, 300 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: submitted a letter to the Lancet in early January, signed 301 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: by fourteen experts from around the world that's January twenty twenty, 302 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: calling for an open debate arguing that natural origin is 303 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: not supported by conclusive arguments and that a lab origin 304 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: cannot be formally discarded. This does seem contentious, but it 305 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: was rejected on the basis it was not a priority 306 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: for us, according to the Lancet. When the authors queered 307 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: the decision, it was reassessed and returned without peer review 308 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: by the editor in chief there and told to let 309 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: this go. She goes on to say, Melissa Chen, tweeting 310 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: the grant makers, the NIH, the science journals, the scientists experts, 311 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: all of their incentives to tell the truth are misaligned. 312 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: It's a giant racket and they, like all bureaucrats, have 313 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: only one goal to maximize the potency of de bureaucracy. 314 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: But it's not just that. No, it's not just that 315 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: there's a China tie in here as well. While there 316 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: were personal and institutional interest to protect, Chen goes on, 317 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: there might be something else, Just like in Hollywood, the 318 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: need to appease Chinese commercial interests might be at play here. 319 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: China's the biggest national sponsor of publishers that produced these journals. 320 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Did you know that? Allegation swirled that it was not 321 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: down to editorial miss judgment, but something more sinister, says unheard, 322 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: a desire to appease China for commercial reasons. Financial Times 323 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: revealed four years ago that debt lead in Springer Nature, 324 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: the German group that publishes Nature, was blocking access in China. 325 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: The hundreds of academic articles mentioning subjects deemed sensitive by Beijing, 326 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, or Tibet. China is also 327 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: spending lavishly around the world to win supremacy in science, 328 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: which includes becoming the biggest national sponsor of open access 329 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: journals published by both Springer Nature and Elvesier, owner of 330 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: the Lancet Corporate links to China compromise output into sort agendas, 331 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: especially investigating something as sensitive as the origins of the coronavirus, 332 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: and it goes on to detail more of it. So 333 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: we're going to run out of time here in this 334 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: opening monologue and we'll turn back to this a little 335 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: bit later, but it's worth knowing that at every single 336 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: level with respect to Lableek and the coronavirus and beyond, 337 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: there's direct or indirect complicity and effect collusion between the 338 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: West and the Chinese Communist Party that made this infinitely 339 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: more bad than it could be, and our ruling class 340 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: used it to try to use surp more power and 341 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: take it away from you and expand its privilege. 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See website for guarantee terms 368 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: and conditions. Pass performance is not a guarantee of future earnings. 369 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. This is Ben 370 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Weingarten in for Buck Sexton, And in my opening monologue today, 371 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: I talked a little bit about the exploitation in every 372 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: respect of not just the coronavirus but by a rolling 373 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: class but lab Leak itself, and how sort of crystallized 374 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: or was a microcosm of the general ruling class onslaught 375 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: that we face. And one of the ways, of course 376 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: that the coronavirus was leveraged is in how we run 377 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: our elections in twenty twenty, which to a series of 378 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: a slew of dramatic measures that essentially brought us as 379 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: far away as we've ever been from voting on a 380 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: singular election day, showing a signature at a location in 381 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: a verifiable and at least facially above board sort of manner, 382 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: And one of the people who has been digging into 383 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: potential abnormality is associated with the twenty twenty election, a 384 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: third rail that a ruling class does not want anyone 385 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: to touch. And by the way, it's worth noting that 386 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: when I produced a podcast on this for the Claremont Institute, 387 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: YouTube actually took it down because we dared to just 388 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: raise the most basic questions regarding election integrity in twenty 389 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: twenty and the legitimacy of twenty twenty elections. Is Paul Sperry, 390 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: who's a senior reporter for Real Clear Investigations where I 391 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: serve as a deputy editor as well, and he's written 392 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: a column out last week why a judge has Georgia 393 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: vote fraud on his mind? Christine Biden ballots that looked xerox. 394 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: And it's worth noting that by happenstance, I found out 395 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: after we were preparing for this interview that Georgia's Secretary 396 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: of State Brad Raffensburger, who I'm sure every listener remembers, 397 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: he claimed to be above reproach and resisting President Trump's 398 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: supposedly wild calls about the election. He tweeted out about 399 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago restoring confidence in our elections is 400 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: going to be impossible. As long as Fulton County's elections 401 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: leadership continues to fail. The voters of Fulton County and 402 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: the voters of Georgia, they need new leadership to step 403 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: up and take charge. And then he said, new revelations 404 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: that Fulton County is unable to produce all ballot drop 405 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: box transfer documents will be investigated thoroughly, as we have 406 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: with other counties that failed to follow Georgia rules and 407 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: regulations regarding drop boxes. This cannot continue. And Julie Kelly, 408 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: who we had on yesterday, pointed out in December twenty 409 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: twenty that Raffensburger told the Walshare Journal quote November's election 410 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: was the most secure in history and Georgia, there's no 411 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: evidence of widespread voter fraud and no significant issues with 412 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: absentee ballots and worth noting as well. Before we jump 413 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: over to Paul Sperry, then later in the week, we'll 414 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: be talking with a state legislator in Arizona, where there's 415 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: currently an audit ongoing as well, just as there is 416 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: in Fulton County, Georgia, and we'll be talking about everything 417 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: that's going on there where there's some remarkable revelations as well, 418 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: but for now, let's talk Georgia with Paul Sperry. Paul, 419 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming on the program. Thanks for 420 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: having me. So let's talk about what was discovered thus 421 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: far in Fulton County. Essentially, it appears that there are 422 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: witnesses who claim to have received pristine ballots marked clearly 423 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: for Biden, universally in every single instance. What do we 424 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: know about what's gone on in Fulton County. Yeah, so 425 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Maylan and drop off ballots and they head over thirty 426 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: six believe about thirty six of these drop boxes spread 427 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: out throughout Fulton County. In Atlanta, these ballots have to 428 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: be folded to fit inside return envelopes. But according to 429 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: the swarm statements of several poll workers in Fulton County, 430 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: potentially thousands of mailed in ballots were counted for Biden 431 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: that had no folds or creases, and they had identical 432 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: bubbled in marks for Biden with the exact same white 433 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: boyd inside them, and further suggesting they were xerox they 434 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: were printed on different stock paper. So they don't know 435 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: if there's any fire here, but there's a lot of 436 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: smoke and a judge, a local judge that's seen enough 437 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: to order an inspection, I mean no fear than four 438 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: poll managers. These are veterans of these elections there in Atlanta, 439 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: Fulton County have come forward signing affter David swearing they 440 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: saw stacks of mail and ballots for Biden that looked 441 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: like Dave ben Zeros. And one of the lead witnesses 442 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: was fired by the county after she blew the whistle. 443 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: And then there were an apparent break in at the 444 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: warehouse where the county was supposed to keep the suspicious 445 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: ballots under lock and key. And then right before the 446 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: petitioners and the county officials were supposed to meet with 447 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the judge at the warehouse to settle the terms of 448 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: the inspection, the county hires a team of criminal defense 449 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: lawyers and files a last minute motion to dismiss the case. 450 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: So now the inspection is in the state of limbo 451 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: until the judge can rule on the motion they dismissed, 452 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: and that during takes place this coming Monday. So first 453 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: of all, let's talk about the scope of what we're 454 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: dealing with here. How many mail in ballots are we 455 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: talking about, potentially being reviewed and being impacted here. Well, 456 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: the league plaintiffs in the complaint against the county says 457 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: of the twenty thousand probably false ballots cast for Biden 458 00:25:53,960 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: and Georgia's Fulton County, that remains to be seen. But 459 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: if there's nothing to hide, you'd think that the county 460 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: officials would welcome the opportunity to prove the claim for 461 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: fraud wrong. But that's not what's happening. At every turn, 462 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: they've tried to throw up roadbox in the way of 463 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: the inspection of these suspicious ballots. Is there any justification 464 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: given by the county for firing this whistleblowing individual. No, 465 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: they never never did give an explanation. Rafinsburger was, you know, 466 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: and high dudgeon over it. Seemingly put out a statement 467 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: and said you condemned. And there was another one too, 468 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: another whistle blower alongside her, that was fired by the 469 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: county without an explanation. So it was kind of universally, 470 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: even some Democrats in the county said that that wasn't 471 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, is it? He appeared untoward what they did. 472 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: So there seems that they're giving a lot of signals 473 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: that they're trying to cover something up is the thing, 474 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: and until they can get you know, internet warehouse and 475 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: supposedly there's several shrink wrap poots, boots in there, get 476 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: somebody in there. Like this, judge, so many neutrals should 477 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: go through UM and have an independent type of inspection 478 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: of the ballots to examine the integrity of these ballots, 479 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: if they were counterfeited or x or there's some type 480 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: of fraud involved. These questions, you're going to remain. You 481 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: mentioned a break in at the warehouse where I gather 482 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: all of these ballots are being held. What what details 483 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: do you have on that? I mean, it's it seems 484 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: this seems like something out of a story and this 485 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: does not seem real. You're talking about a whistlebler being 486 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: fired and a break in at a warehouse where the 487 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: ballots are being out of them. What's going on there? Yeah, 488 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: So the warehouse where thousands of the paper ballots, these 489 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: are absolute ballots are stored, was supposed to be under 490 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: twenty four seven security watch. The county guaranteed the judge 491 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: that they would be under twenty four seven security watch 492 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: by the Fulton County Sheriff's Office. However, on the afternoon 493 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: of Saturday, May twenty ninth, and alarms sounded in the 494 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: building and an ex extor door was found to being 495 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: locked and her no Fulton County Sheriff's deputies on the scene. 496 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: They had mysteriously left the scene right before the security breach. 497 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: So you're basically describing a Godfather One like scene at 498 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: this warehouse. Yeah, it's just there's there's there's a lot 499 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: of drama going on right now. I think as they 500 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: get closer to this um source, I think the local 501 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: and the way the Fulton County is all completely debotat 502 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: control the run and the Elections Office is the department 503 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: is controlled by the Democratic Commissioner through his appointee the 504 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: Elections Board, And so I think they're they're getting just 505 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: squirming a little bit here under the pressure. I don't 506 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: know if they thought that this this judge would actually 507 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: go ahead with ordering the inspection. And there's there's a 508 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: lot of squirrely stuff happening. Put that way, So we 509 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: saw all sorts of clams like these regarding mail in 510 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: ballots in twenty twenty in states across the country. Why 511 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: did this particular case rise to the level when so 512 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: many others failed? Well? In this case, you had a 513 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: number of string Acca David's people swearing in the penalty 514 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: of perjury and these regadings and a number of past 515 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: elections when the key witnesses in working these selections for 516 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: two decades and they all saw the same thing in 517 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: different stacks. So there was a pattern. And I think 518 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: that's what taught the judge's eye. This is this is 519 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: a nonpartisan judge run as a non partisan candidate. Although 520 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: he looked at this ACU political contributions and he gets 521 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: exclusions to dinner France, which is interesting. He I think 522 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: saw enough to where he said, Okay, let's let's get 523 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: to the bottom of this. It's worth noting. And you 524 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: reference in the article that former President Trump is watching 525 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: this case closely. And as I noted to listeners yesterday, 526 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: I had an interview with President Trump last week at 527 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: Trump Tower and he said something to the effect of, 528 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, you've heard the phrase he who controls the 529 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: vote to vote counting, controls elections, and you know, I 530 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: think he said that with an eye towards both Georgia 531 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: and Arizona and elsewhere as well. So we have about 532 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: a minute and a half until a break here, people 533 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: have talked about Georgia. Well, let's let's take it this direction. 534 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: What are the implications to the extent these are photo 535 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: copied ballots fraudulent ballots? Essentially, does it mean that there 536 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: is it possible that there are other such ballots across 537 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Georgia and is there any evidence for that? And how 538 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: much are we talking in terms of magnitude here? Ultimately 539 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: the question is would would this be enough to actually 540 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: switch what happened in the election in Georgia? Well, there 541 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: was the sab half a day that's filed by actual 542 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: registered Democrats who are pool watchers in neighboring to Cabin 543 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: and Cobb Counties, which are also democratically controlled, who witnessed 544 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: the exact same thing. They observed the exact same thing. 545 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: H is the witnesses in Fulton County where you had 546 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: these pristine, suspiciously pristine looking ballots for Biden that had 547 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: the exact same carving copy type of bubble putting on 548 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: different paper, no fools or creases when they should you know, 549 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: these are mail mailed in ballots or ballots that are 550 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: put into a novelope and dropped off of the drop 551 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: ways drop boxes which, by the way, we're unsurveiling and 552 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: unregulated throughout Fulton County in these other counties. But the 553 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: point is that that shows a pattern outside of Fulton County, 554 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: so it could have been much more widespread. But as 555 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, Biden won by a razors find twelve thousand 556 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: votes in Georgia. So just in Fulton County, if you're 557 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: talking about ten to twenty thousands of league Planets is 558 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: talking about, is counterfeited balance for Biden? Then you know 559 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: that covers that. But I don't know if the finding 560 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: if there are any findings of fraud, you know, hard 561 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: evidence of fraud, which of course you know, I think 562 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: that would have to be settled in court. If you know, 563 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: you're talking about changing these results of the election in 564 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: these swing states, including Arizona, but it could convince more 565 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: states to pass inty fraud measures such as voter r 566 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: I D signature verifications, restoration of the rules regulating the land, 567 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: and absolutely balloting that we're liberalized in the name of 568 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: COVID in the twenty twenty race in general, just rolling 569 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: back a lot of this these rules that were abandoned 570 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: to make voting easier in these swing states. So that 571 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: so you know, that could be very significant in and 572 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: of itself, regardless of whether or not I means of 573 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: fraud changes any results of the elections. Well more with 574 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: paus Berry right after this, we're back with pauls Berry 575 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: talking about let's call them irregularity, is potentially in Fulton County, Georgia, 576 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: potentially thousands of mail and ballots that may have been 577 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 1: for audulently produced and cast. And one of the things 578 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Paul was, in your investigating for 579 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: this story, do you have any insights into what percentage 580 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: of ballots were denied or deemed fraudulent or otherwise dismissed 581 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: in Georgia in the general twenty twenty election versus past 582 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: such elections. No, not overall, but there were there was 583 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: a spike in double voting, people casting more than one 584 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: out that definitely was an issue in this race, both 585 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: the primary in the general. And something I failed to 586 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: mention earlier was that I did talk to some local officials, 587 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: election officials, and there was a caveat to or a 588 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: possible plausible explanation for why ballots would have been xerox 589 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: And this is the key issue here. These election officials 590 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: salary that you know, they're allowed to zero atostee ballots 591 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: that are damaged in the mail or as they were 592 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: being removed from envelopes, But for every copied ballot, the 593 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: county would have to produce it damaged ballot marked exactly 594 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: the same way that the Christine ballot is marked. That 595 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: several weeks eyewitnesses testified that stacks upon stacks and hundreds 596 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: of ballots in those stacks look like they had been 597 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: duplicated from the same original ballot. So that if that's true, 598 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: that would, you know, that would wash away any of 599 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: these explanations that they're talking about that are innocuous and benign. 600 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: So the bottom line is what they're trying to find 601 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: out were these xerox and if they were zerox, where 602 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: they stuffed into these drop boxes that were unregulated, these 603 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: thirty six around Fulton County or was it possibly an 604 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: inside job within the elections department. So that's what they 605 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: want to find out, and the judge seems to, with 606 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: some restrictions, wants to let that go forward. But he 607 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: does the first rule on this motion to dismiss by 608 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: the county, So just about a minute or so. Georgia's 609 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: election law recently passed this year, which god raised all 610 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: sorts of outrage across the country, at least in the 611 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: corporate media and across Democrats in our political class as well, 612 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: huge uproar. What actually happened within that law that will 613 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: impact or would have implications for what transpired in twenty 614 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: twenty that we're seeing in Fulton County. Did the state 615 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: do anything to ensure that you wouldn't have the potential 616 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: for potentially he's potentially allegedly xerox ballots like this. Well, 617 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: they they did amazingly. They agreed to keep the drop boxes, 618 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: which they never had before until Stacy Abrams, another Democrat 619 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: pressure groups insisted on them. Um, you know, they use 620 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: excuse of COVID to put them all out, but they're 621 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: going to limit them. They're going to cut back substantially 622 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: the number of drop boxes that you can put out there. 623 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: Um and you know, just a handful now. They're going 624 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: to allow Sultan get down from thirty six. Uh, they're 625 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: going to try and keep them only at election offices 626 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: instead of just anywhere like they were seeing them out before, 627 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: so that that could curb some potential fraud. But pretty say, 628 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: they just they didn't go far enough, and they didn't 629 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: want to go too far to roll back um these 630 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: more liberalized rules because they would have gotten hammered by 631 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams groups and been called you know, racist and 632 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: disenfranchising African Americans and so on and so forth. Paul, 633 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: I gather you have more reporting on this, and we'll 634 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: look forward to reporting on your reportage. Dam And the 635 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: article is why a judge has Georgia vote fraud on 636 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: his mind? Christine Biden ballots that looked xerox. Thanks so 637 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: much for coming on the program. There is a new 638 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: development in the case which we will be breaking lay 639 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: this week, by the way, on real clear investigations. But 640 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: if we're honest, we also had two other types of 641 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: mistakes that cause a lot of loss of life. One 642 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: we're just plainly political leadership mistakes. There was a lot 643 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: we denied the virus for too long out of the 644 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: Trump White House. There was too much squashing of descent 645 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: and playing on divisions. But I'd also think we all 646 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: need to look at one another and ask ourselves what 647 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: do we need to do better next time? And in 648 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: many respects being able to sacrifice a little bit for 649 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: one another to get through this and to save more lives. 650 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be it's going to be essential a 651 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: little It's something that I think we could all have 652 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: done a little bit better on. You didn't do a 653 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: good enough job during the coronavirus pandemic, dear listener, that's 654 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: what Biden's covids are. Andy Slavitt had to say on CBS. 655 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: You just didn't sacrifice enough. Your small business might have 656 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: been destroyed. You might have had to juggle your job 657 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: and your kids for weeks on end with no end 658 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: in sight, while the teachers unions in many cases took 659 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: advantage of it. You couldn't go out and live like 660 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: a normal person and enjoy your natural rights. But people 661 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: who hate your guts rioted and protested in the streets 662 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: with total impunity. You couldn't even go to a place 663 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: of warship freely. You might get arrested. But you just 664 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: didn't sacrifice enough, says our ruling class. And this is 665 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: a good segue back to what I was talking about 666 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: in our opening monologue. Today. Our ruling quass leverage the 667 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: coronavirus to the hilt, and of course they opposed. Is 668 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: that every turn, the many policies, by the way, the 669 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: Trump administration implemented that let us have a vaccine in 670 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: record time that stopped the flow in of the virus 671 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: from China, which could have been far worse with a 672 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: travel band that they called xenophobic, and then they denied 673 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: later on. Think about what they leverage the coronavirus to 674 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: do while they tell you you just need to sacrifice 675 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: more next time, and that implies, by the way, there's 676 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: going to be a next time for them, because they 677 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: want all the power. They leverage the coronavirus to usurp 678 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: unprecedented amounts of power at the state and local level. 679 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: Thank god the President didn't do that and didn't set 680 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: a precedent like that, but of course the other side will, 681 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure next time around if they're in power. There 682 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: was a massive transfer of wealth and effect from the 683 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: real economy to the digital economy, that is, to the 684 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: bicoastal elite who are ruling class serves and comes from. 685 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: They're seeking to exploit the collapse that they created in 686 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: our earn our economies and beyond with a great reset 687 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: to lead to the green insanity, which will be another 688 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: wealth transfer to their friends and de industrialization of the 689 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: economy and probably a further digitalization of the economy, which 690 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: will kill mom and pop stores across this country in businesses. 691 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: Of course they're gonna They leveraged the coronavirus in every 692 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: possible way to destroy President Trump as a symbol for 693 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: the seventy four million plus Americans who still have their 694 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: heads on relatively straight. And of course, they also use 695 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 1: the coronavirus crisis to increase censorship by proxy via big Tech, 696 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: which banned discussion of all manner of topics, including around 697 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, including things like lab leak, that all of 698 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, are now kosher to talk about. And by 699 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: the way, tomorrow, I'm very pleased to announce the wolf 700 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson on the program, and he himself has 701 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: been subjected to the big Tech censorship bullies. They usurped 702 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: all of this power. And by the way, where's Andy 703 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: Swab He's talking about all the mistakes on our side 704 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: that need to be examined. Well, what about the fricking 705 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: origin of the coronavirus that led us to take these 706 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: self righteously suicidal policies and to deal with the cult 707 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: of maskedam for months and months on end, and to 708 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: completely shut down normalcy in our lives in a completely 709 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: anti scientific and unscientific fashion, whereof course they would not 710 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: allow any competing views, which is the antithesis of what 711 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: the scientific method calls for. From the people who say 712 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: trust the science. No, when you hear trust the science, 713 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: what they mean is bow down to our politics and 714 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: what other politics. Well, now, the Biden administration today is 715 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: still deferring to the who Chinese Communist Party control who 716 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: to do what it can't or won't do with respect 717 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: to investigating China. And yes, they've basically shoved it off 718 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: onto the intelligence community to do a ninety day review. 719 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: But let's remember something for a second. The intelligence community 720 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: has been wildly off on all things China related for 721 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: decades in terms of its assessments of China's weaponry capability, 722 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the destruction of our intelligence network there 723 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: in Toto, our assets there under the Obama administration liquidated, 724 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: and it's gone soft on China when it doesn't suit 725 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: the narrative, as recently as regarding the twenty election, when 726 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence at the time, John Radcliffe, 727 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: and then an analytics ombudsman for the intelligence community, wrote 728 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: a report where he said that intelligence officials went easy 729 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: on China and held it to a lower standard, essentially 730 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: than Russia, because they didn't want to serve in effect 731 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: reading between the lines the president's narrative about the China threat. 732 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: So why is it going to be different this time? 733 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, isn't it interesting that you go 734 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: to the intelligence community for this review. It's actually the 735 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: perfect place to go if you don't want everyone to 736 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: know what actually happened. And I'm not maligning intelligence analysts 737 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: out there. I'm sure they're capable of doing the job. 738 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: But the higher ups, the political people who answer to 739 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: their ultimate consumer, Joe Biden, will think about this. The 740 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: intelligence community is the perfect place to go to not 741 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 1: be open and transparent about whatever was found, including potentially 742 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: American complicity in this through our public health bureaucrats and 743 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: elected officials devoted to working with communist China in perpetuity. 744 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 1: The intelligence community can come back with an ambiguous answer 745 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: about what transpired. They can say for national security and reasons, 746 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: we can't really go into detail about it. And at 747 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't believe we'll get 748 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: to the truth of it, and the truth may have 749 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: already been destroyed and China won't pay under this administration. 750 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: Is I think where we're ultimately going and the intelligence 751 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: community review I think may prove to be a ruse 752 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: and I pray to God that I'm wrong on this, 753 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's where we're headed. Say, quick break, 754 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: this is Ben Weegarden for Buck sex And on the 755 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: Buck Sex and Show, and we'll be back right after this. 756 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sex and Show. This is 757 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: Ben Weingarten in for Buck Sexton, and our next guest 758 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: is covering a topic that's really near and dear to 759 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: my own heart, and that is New York City and 760 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: Buck Sexon's heart, I should say as well on a 761 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: personal note, I was born here, raised here for the 762 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: first year of my life. Back in the late eighties, 763 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: parents moved out to the New Jersey suburbs outside the city. 764 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: Saw the city roar back to life after the dark 765 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: days of Mayor Dinkins and what preceded him as well, 766 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: and under Rudy Giuliani have a total revival renaissance sort 767 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: of maintained a steady state under Mayor Bloomberg and then 768 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: subsequently decay under Mayor Bill Decamio. Or de Blasio, I 769 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: should say Freudian slip or not so much. And I 770 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,959 Speaker 1: actually went to school at Columbia University starting in two 771 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: thousand and six, so I've really been here in sort 772 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: of the rise and fall twice to some degree, went 773 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: to Columbia State in New York for the next decade plus, 774 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: and then moved my family out of this town again 775 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and back to the New Jersey suburbs. 776 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: So in my own personal life, I've sort of followed 777 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: the ups and downs of this city and hopefully gotten 778 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: out at the right times and in at the right 779 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: times as well. And someone who's watched this city keenly 780 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: with the eye of a dogged, devoted journalist and reporter 781 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: is Seth Baron. Seth is the managing editor of the 782 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Claremont Institute. It's the American Mind, and at full disclosure, 783 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 1: I do some work on behalf of the Cremont Institute 784 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: and have contributed to the American Mind as well. Before that, 785 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: he was at City Journal doing exceptional job making the 786 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: work of writers like mine significantly better. And he's the 787 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: author of the new book The Last Days of New York. 788 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: It reporters True Tale Seth, thanks so much for coming 789 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: on the program today. Oh, thank you, Ben. It's a pleasure. 790 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: So New York has experienced, as I noted, a sort 791 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: of dramatic rise from the ashes over the last twenty 792 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: years and under I think it's fair to say, essentially 793 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: a Marxist mayor, it threatens to waste all of those 794 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: games and essentially go back to the bad old days 795 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: that preceded them. Does that generally cover the arc of 796 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: things more or less? I mean in a thumbnail sketch, 797 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 1: you know. I just want to point out it's funny. 798 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: Only last week to Lassio, it was talking about that phrase, 799 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: the bad old days, and he said the batt old 800 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: days of New York were not the seventies and eighties 801 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: when when crime was soaring. He said, the bad old 802 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: days were actually the nineties and two thousands when crime 803 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: was declining because people because people's rights weren't respected, and 804 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: and and and his definition of rights, of course is 805 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: people being able to loiter, urinate on the streets, have 806 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: no cash bail policies, act with total impunity, to riot 807 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: and protest and take on the cops with no recourse whatsoever. 808 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: Is that the general gist of it, I mean, I 809 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: guess so if if you look at it, I mean, 810 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: he seemed to be I think he was talking about 811 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, stop, question frisk and broken windows police saying 812 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: and you know how that was really like, you know, savage, 813 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: even though you know, as you as you pointed out 814 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: the crime I mean crime quested orders crested under Dinkins 815 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 1: when they topped two thousand a year, and then under 816 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: Giuliani and Bloomberg they were driven down to three hundred 817 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: a year, maybe less, and now we're seeing a start 818 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: a sharp rise again. But yeah, so that's that's the idea, 819 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: you know. So the right, the right to be safe 820 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: on the streets, the right to take the subway and 821 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: not be flashed across the face that you know, those 822 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: rights don't really matter quite as much, I guess, and 823 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: it's worth pointing out, I think, just on an individual level, 824 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: what it means when a city goes from economic strength 825 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: and relatively I mean by any big city standards, incredibly 826 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: low violent crime rates and relative peace and prosperity that 827 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 1: there used to be a day. As you noted, first 828 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: of all, peep shows graffiti everywhere, crime on the violent 829 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: crime on the subways and needles in the streets and 830 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: all those sort of cliche images that we talk about. 831 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: And this was not a safe city. This was a big, 832 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: violent city and the kind of place where you would 833 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: want to get out of late at night. You couldn't 834 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: walk alone on the streets. And we had a couple 835 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 1: of decades of essentially the reversal of all those trends, 836 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: and now within a very short period of time, we've 837 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 1: reached a scenario where all of those quality of life 838 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: issues are coming back to the fore and at a 839 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: very micro level. One of the things that my family 840 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 1: saw when we decided to get out of here during 841 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: last year was literally that the city was putting drug 842 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: addicts and former violent criminals, in some cases housing them 843 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: homeless former drug addicts and criminals and the like, and 844 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: housing them in hotels and other buildings in residential neighborhoods, 845 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: in fine neighborhoods in Manhattan. So you ran the risk 846 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: if you had young children of them being exposed to 847 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 1: all of that antisocial behavior. To put it as diplomatically 848 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: as possible, how is it that things have reversed so 849 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: quickly in this town? And is it really just a 850 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: dramatic percentage increase in violent crime and all of these 851 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: other metrics by which we judge at the livability of 852 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: a city or on an absolute basis, is there really 853 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: something terrible going on here? Well, look, here's the thing. 854 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: I mean to Blasio and some of his apologists have 855 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: pointed out that, you know, crime is still much lower 856 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: than it was, you know, even under some of the 857 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, even under Juliani, like total murders. However, people 858 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: don't live in a long term historical trend. They live 859 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: with the experience of like the day to day velocity 860 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: of you know, how these indicators are moving, and right 861 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: now they're being whipsawed by you know, practical like g forces, 862 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: as New York City sees, you know, the fastest rate 863 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: of acceleration of its crime crime rate. Um. You know, 864 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: murders were up in twenty twenty thirty eight forty percent. 865 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: Shootings were up one hundred percent. This year so far, 866 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,439 Speaker 1: murders are up again, and that's on top of last 867 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: year's increase. Shootings are again way up. Um. You know, 868 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: thank god a lot of these people don't have better aim, 869 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: I guess, because otherwise murder would be much worse. So 870 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: that's the problem, is that the sudden reversal is is 871 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: what's scary to people, and the complete collapse of you know, 872 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: I guess I mean just to put it, you know, 873 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: like manners and moras on the street. You know, I 874 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: live in the village, and Washington Square Park over the 875 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: last year has just deteriorated into this these all night 876 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: raves where you know, people on illegal motorcycles, like those 877 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: dirt bikes that people ride around, tearing around the park 878 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: at night. Now the police can seize those vehicles like 879 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: they're illegal, they're not street ready. They can be seized 880 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: on site. But I guess the idea is that the 881 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: police don't want to. They don't want to get into 882 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: a position where there's trying to seize a motorcycle from 883 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: someone who doesn't want it seized, and then it can 884 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: turn into a you know, an ugly confrontation, and we 885 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: know how these things play out. Look, the use of 886 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: force is never pretty. So there's nothing easier than to 887 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: drop a video of the police trying to restrain someone 888 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: who's resisting and make it look like brutality. You know, 889 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: there's a difference between force and brutality, but that distinction 890 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: is lost on people. And so this once again highlights 891 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: a running theme this week. Yesterday I spoke a little 892 00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: bit about how medical research has been pervaded by sism 893 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: and it's literally courted off certain fields of inquiry because 894 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: people don't want to dare touch on a third rail. 895 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: Here we're talking about public safety and politics effectively trumping it. 896 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: How much of that is a consequence of the policymakers 897 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: versus the fear of cops actually out on the bit 898 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 1: well founded fear that there will be political ramifications to 899 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: them doing their jobs. Well, it's it's dialectical, So it's both. 900 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 1: It starts with policymakers and politicians, you know, advocating for 901 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 1: the criminal class, advocating against policing, stressing this myth that 902 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: the major problem on the streets is police violence against minorities, 903 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: pushing the idea that some communities are over policed. You know, 904 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: you hear a lot you hear people on the left 905 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: saying that communities with low crime have have very you 906 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: don't see any police around. So why is that If 907 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: you don't see any police around, it must be because 908 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: the police are in fact causing the crime. The police 909 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: or the problem high crime communities have too many police. 910 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: But the thing is, like the night if you look 911 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: at nine to eleven data, nine one one data, you know, 912 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: calls for emergencies come from neighborhoods that have a lot 913 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: of crime. Police don't get up in the morning, and 914 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're not ordered to go and harass black 915 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: people or to go and just you know, harry some 916 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: minority community. They go where the crime is. But policymakers 917 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 1: have pushed against this idea. And then yeah, they've imposed 918 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: laws like like okay, getting rid of qualified immunity, putting 919 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: police at personal risk of being sued. Uh, you know, 920 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: the diaphragm law making it making police you know, liable 921 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: to prosecution for assault if they you know, perhaps when 922 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: they're sitting like trying to arrest somebody, they squeeze their 923 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 1: they touch their back or chest, so, um, you know. 924 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: And then as a result of that, police justum withdrawal 925 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: from being Why be proactive, What's what's the use? You know, 926 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: just show up, show up at some point and write 927 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: a report. Um, you know, you can count the bullets 928 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: on the ground instead of like trying to get there 929 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: quickly to to shoot the perpetrator. So we're up against 930 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,919 Speaker 1: a break shortly. But I think it's worth noting that, 931 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: just like an individual's reputation, it seems very clear to me, 932 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: and New York is a perfect example of this, and 933 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: other major cities have followed similar similar trajectoris. I'm thinking, 934 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: of course, of a place like San Francisco, for example, 935 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 1: that it can take decades to build a great city, 936 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: just like it can take decades to build one's reputation, 937 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: and it can all go put and be collapsed very 938 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 1: quickly if you have the wrong ideas or if I 939 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 1: guess you have a bad sound by it for ten seconds. 940 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: So with that, when we come back, I want to 941 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what preceded this decline that 942 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: is resulting in the Last Days of New York, and 943 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 1: then what the lessons are for the country writ large. 944 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: This is Ben Winegarden in for Buck Sexon on the 945 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: Buck Sexon Show, and we'll be back with Seth Baron 946 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 1: on his new book The Last Days of New York 947 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,439 Speaker 1: in just a minute. Welcome back to the Buck Sexon Show. 948 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: Ben Winegarten in four Buck sex In and we're talking 949 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 1: with Seth Baron, author of the new book The Last 950 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: Days of New York a reporter's true tale. So seth, 951 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,879 Speaker 1: before we get to the last days of New York, 952 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: what were the policies that preceded these last days that 953 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: resulted in a flourishing New York City in the twenty 954 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: first century. Well, you know, going back to Juliani, when 955 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: he came in, he brought in Bill Bratton, and you know, 956 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 1: they adopted the broken windows theory of of neighborhood safety. 957 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: Broken windows is widely taken as some kind of you know, 958 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: extremely harsh, zero tolerance regime of surveillance and constant uh, 959 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, discipline, but it's really not. The idea is 960 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: that you know, if if if windows are broken, then 961 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: more windows will be broken. You know that the persistence 962 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: of a broken window just encourages more. So the idea 963 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: is to maintain the same way. Like you know, if 964 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: you don't do your dishes, they pile up and it 965 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: becomes harder and harder to to to keep a clean kitchen. Um. 966 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: The idea of broken windows policing is to to signal 967 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: to the community at large that that it's orderly. Um 968 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: and so people who are you know, littering, people who 969 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: are drinking outside. It's not that they necessarily have to 970 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: be arrested, but you know, perhaps warned, uh that, so 971 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: the indications are there that certain behaviors are not tolerated 972 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: and then the community becomes less criminogenic. So this was 973 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: you know that this was instituted with great success. You know, 974 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: the theory really turned out to work. Um. Then under Bloomberg, 975 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, the practice and Ray Kelly, the practice of 976 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: stop question frisk, which is constitutional um was put put 977 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: into put into a place sometimes you know, aggressively, but 978 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: the goal was to get guns off the street, and 979 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: thousands of lives were saved that way, you know, black lives, 980 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: I may add. So you know, these policies, plus of course, 981 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, a focus on you know, helping businesses and 982 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: improving tourism, getting the schools working well. All of this 983 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: undergirded the prosperity in public safety that New Yorkers came 984 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: to expect. And one of the other things also worth 985 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: noting is that there's been a dramatic spike. And mercifully 986 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: the numbers are low, just like they're low on an 987 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: absolute basis across the country, but there's been a dramatic 988 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: spike in hate crimes in the New York City area. 989 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: And it's worth noting that the perpetrators almost certainly are 990 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: not Maga hat wearers. Worth emphasizing that point. But I 991 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: did want to ask, you know, kind of what has 992 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: New York City done under Mayor Devasio to reverse these 993 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: gains and what are the lessons for the country writ large? 994 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: Do you see New York as sort of a proxy 995 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: for where all major cities are going, for where the 996 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: left is going in this country? Put it in its 997 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: proper context, certainly, yes, I mean New York City and 998 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: state has happened at the local and the state level. 999 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Have imposed massive criminal justice reforms. These include bail reform, 1000 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: eliminating cash bail in most cases, discovery reform, which makes 1001 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: it very hard for prosecutors to get witnesses to testify. 1002 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, They've gotten rid of qualified immunity. They've 1003 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: decriminalized a host of quality of life offenses like public urination, 1004 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: hanging out in parks after dark, public drinking, littering, and 1005 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: these have all been codified. So that makes it that's 1006 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: going to make it much more difficult for a future 1007 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 1: mayor to undo the damage. And yes, of course New 1008 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: York City is not alone there are many cities across 1009 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: the country going in exactly the same direction, with hard 1010 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: left prosecutors declining prosecution. We're seeing the same thing in 1011 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Baltimore, Chicago. I mean, some 1012 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: of these cities were, you know, totally dysfunctional already, but 1013 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 1: they've gotten much worse. Saint Louis so oh, absolutely, New 1014 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: York is a New York is part is in the pack. Okay, 1015 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 1: It's just that we were kind of doing very well. 1016 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: We had bucked a lot of the negative trends, but 1017 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: now we're catching up. And it strikes me ironically that, 1018 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: of course the so called inequality, but really the disparity 1019 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: is between those who do wow in New York City, 1020 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: and oftentimes it's foreigners who own these opulent departments, who 1021 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: don't even reside in them full time. But the inequality, 1022 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the chasm between the halves and the have nots in 1023 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: this city will only be exacerbated as a consequence of 1024 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: this policy, which of course cuts at the arguments of 1025 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: so called progressives like a bill at a Lazio. In 1026 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: the first place, we have about twenty seconds left. What 1027 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,919 Speaker 1: will people get out of your book that they might 1028 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: not have thought about coming into it. The Last Days 1029 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: of New York. That is basically that how an entire 1030 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: cadre of professional agitator's advocates, hardcore progressive policy bakers, conspired 1031 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: to destroy the city, not just one man. Well, on 1032 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: that sunny note, we've been speaking with Seth Baron, managing 1033 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: editor of the Claremon Institute's The American Mind and author 1034 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 1: of the new book The Last Days of New York, 1035 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: A Reporter's True Tale. Seth, thanks again so much for 1036 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: coming on the program. Thank you, Ben a pleasure, and 1037 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: we'll be back right after this. She did to leave. 1038 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: One of her close friends, member of your caucus tweeted 1039 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,919 Speaker 1: the following, freedom of speech doesn't exist from Muslim women 1040 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: in Congress. The benefit of the doubt doesn't exist from 1041 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Muslim women in Congress. Okay, you know how democratic leadership 1042 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: should be ashamed. But we just say this, Yeah, not 1043 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: rebuke her, We thanked, but acknowledge that she made a clarification. 1044 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: So before we go too far down the path. Yeah, 1045 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: these aren't my words. That that's a member, that's a 1046 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: caucus caucus member, a caucus member. So I just wanted 1047 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: to get her. No, I'm not. I'm responding that we 1048 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: the Congresswoman Omar is a valued member of our caucus. 1049 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: She asked her questions of the Secretary of State. Nobody 1050 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,919 Speaker 1: criticized those about how people will be held accountable if 1051 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to the International Court of Justice. That 1052 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: was a very legitimate question that was not of concern. 1053 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Members did become concerned when the tweet that was put 1054 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: out equated the United States with the Taliban and leave 1055 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: acusing and end. And then she clarified it, and we 1056 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: thanked her for clarification. So do you want people to 1057 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: just but it go? And I could say whatever they want, 1058 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: but what I'm saying is is end of subt I 1059 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: will promise you this. If we are fortunate enough to 1060 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: have the majority, Omar would not be serving on foreign affairs. 1061 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Are anybody that has an anti Semitic, anti American view, 1062 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: That is not productive and that is not right. So 1063 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: those were some of the latest clips of the most 1064 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: recent contra attempts, let's call it regarding Ilhan Omar, the 1065 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: Member of the House from Minnesota, and some of her 1066 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: colleagues as well. There, of course, you had Speaker Pelosi 1067 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 1: running interference for her trying to make it seem as 1068 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: if she made a legitimate point when she compared treating 1069 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Hamas and Israel equally and the US and the Taliban equally. 1070 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: And remember, you can remember back to this clip that's 1071 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: made the rounds, I think it was from twenty thirteen 1072 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,439 Speaker 1: or so, where essentially Ilhan Omar is mocking the way 1073 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: that a teacher speaks in a class that she had 1074 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: on terrorism, speaks with an affective voice about al Kida 1075 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: or Hezbollah, and she says, well, you know, you don't 1076 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: talk about the US military in that sort of way. 1077 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing there. But of course, this court a moral 1078 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: equivalence has been part of her rhetoric since the time 1079 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: she busted out into the national scene. And of course 1080 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy is right to say that no one like 1081 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Omar should ever sit on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. 1082 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: And there's a reason that's even deeper than just her 1083 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: anti Americanism, her loathing of everything of this country stands 1084 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: for her saying and their direct tweets about this, and 1085 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: I chronicle them in my book on ilhan Omar. American ingreate, 1086 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: ilhan Omar and the Progressive Islamist takeover of the Democratic Party, 1087 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: about how America was founded in genocide and of course 1088 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: rooted in racism and white supremacy, and beyond paraphrasing here. 1089 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: But it's not just that it's not just Omar's awful worldview, 1090 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: it's that Omar actually has ties and I document this 1091 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: in great detail to Muslim Brotherhood linked individuals and entities, 1092 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 1: as well as air to One's regime in Turkey, which 1093 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: is itself a major backer of and supporter of the 1094 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood, and it's offshoots as well. So we talk 1095 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: about foreign collusion if you apply the collusion standard Russian 1096 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: collusion to President Trump, the false one to Ilhan Omar, 1097 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: and you actually had the full force of the federal 1098 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 1: government investigating it. She can never get a security clearance, 1099 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: and she doesn't need one because she's a member of 1100 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: the House. The American people, and particularly those in her districts, 1101 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: are the ones that get to determine whether it's not 1102 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: she get a she gets a free pass and affect 1103 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: a waiver on the security clearance. But it's so much 1104 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: deeper than the moral equivalency on display. What it really 1105 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 1: comes down to the entire Ilhan Omar story, and this 1106 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: was the purpose of my book in the first place, 1107 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: was to say that Ilhan Omar is the personification of 1108 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: where the Democratic Party is going and maybe where it is. 1109 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: And the party has caved repeatedly with respect to Omar's 1110 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 1: wretched views and associated policies. I mean, this is someone 1111 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 1: who is essentially a Marxist in her worldview and an 1112 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,439 Speaker 1: anti American Marxist, but I guess they kind go hand 1113 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: in hand. This is someone who believed and look at 1114 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 1: her district. By the way, Minneapolis, the seat of her district, 1115 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: has gone to hell over the last year, in no 1116 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 1: small part because of the exact kinds of policies that 1117 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: she loves. And it's already a very leftist place to 1118 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 1: begin with, but then you add the d policing and 1119 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,919 Speaker 1: then the anti policing element to it, and you create 1120 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: a powder keg. And even leftist reporters who are honest, 1121 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: like Michael Tracy for example, have reported on the fact 1122 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: that Minneapolis is now Murderopolis. And the disparity is on 1123 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 1: the basis when you look at it from a racial lens, 1124 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: in her district or some of the greatest in the 1125 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 1: country on all manner of measures, in terms of economics 1126 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: and quality of life and crime and beyond. Of course, 1127 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 1: this is what happens with progressivism. The intentions never matched 1128 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 1: the outcomes, and the outcomes are always the worst for 1129 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: the very constituents progressives claim to care about the most. 1130 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: And sometimes you have to wonder who are their constituents. 1131 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: Who is Illano Mars Constitution When she goes out and 1132 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: compares America to jihadas or Israel to jihadas the great 1133 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Satan and the little Satan? Who is she speaking for? 1134 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: And why the hell represent this country if you hate 1135 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: it so much? The importance of the Democratic Party's cave 1136 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,440 Speaker 1: to Omar and the Squad is that it shows directionally 1137 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: that that's where the party is going, or again where 1138 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: it is. And as a chronicle in the book, you 1139 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 1: look at how big the Progressive caucus is in the 1140 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 1: House and how much, how rapidly that has expanded since 1141 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 1: it started in the early nineties, and we're talking, I believe, 1142 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: over one hundred measures collect a hundred members collectively at 1143 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 1: a five hundred and thirty five four thirty five rather significant, 1144 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: husually significant, and particularly of a majority. You're talking almost 1145 01:08:54,240 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: half of a majority Democrat majority. When the party initially 1146 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: caved to her over her anti Semitic remarks and basically 1147 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: diluted those remarks by saying, actually, we're going to have 1148 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: a resolution that goes against any speech perceived as hateful 1149 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: by any of our demographics that we care about. Essentially 1150 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: is what they said by show they didn't care about 1151 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 1: purging the party of people with views like iohan Omar. 1152 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: And there's a cynical political reason for it. I mean, 1153 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 1: first is the fact that the party, of course has 1154 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 1: just gone way more woke and the tappened over decades, 1155 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: and it's accelerated at a ridiculous rate in recent years, 1156 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 1: which is why you have someone like Joe Biden reading 1157 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: from a teleprompter about equity over equality. It's also a 1158 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 1: cynical political play. There's a view that the future of 1159 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 1: the party, and particularly younger voters and then also Muslim 1160 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:50,759 Speaker 1: Americans who disproportionately swing left and likely disproportionately have views 1161 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: that are in line with their progressives and polling seems 1162 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,919 Speaker 1: to indicate this are going to be a growing cohort, 1163 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,719 Speaker 1: and in particular when it comes to issues like regarding 1164 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: is Rael or like regarding terrorism and beyond the Democratic 1165 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Party is willing to say, basically to hell with traditional 1166 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Jewish Democrat voters, pro American pro israel belief that Israel 1167 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: is in America's national interest to be an ally of, 1168 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 1: and of course, hey, it's loads anti Semites, that it's 1169 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,759 Speaker 1: actually okay to cowtow in effect, to the anti Semites 1170 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 1: and to those who take a sympathetic view towards Islamists 1171 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 1: around the world, because that's where the votes are going 1172 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,520 Speaker 1: to be down the road. That's the unspoken, cynical political 1173 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,719 Speaker 1: aspect of all of this and why the party continues 1174 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 1: to cave. The party sees where its future lies. They 1175 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 1: see the ideological trendlines, they see where the votes are 1176 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: going to be, and that is why ilhan Omar must 1177 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: be protected. And you have to it's really important to 1178 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: note the verbal tick that she has anytime she is criticized, 1179 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 1: and how she uses identity politics as a cudgel and 1180 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 1: as a shield. Literally, I believe the day after my 1181 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 1: book come out, she put out a funding email or 1182 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: her campaign put out a fundraising email talking about how 1183 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Islamophobic right wing extremists are coming out against her and 1184 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 1: that they may incite violence. My book, by the way, 1185 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: has hundreds and hundreds of footnotes and citations. It's as 1186 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 1: thoroughly researched as it could be, because it had to 1187 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 1: be bulletproof to deal with someone a figure like ilhan 1188 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 1: Omar to talk about her wretched ideology, her criminal, it 1189 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 1: seems personal acts that go well beyond what we're talking 1190 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: about in terms of her dalliances with the adversaries of America. 1191 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 1: And of course she attacks you as a bigot if 1192 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: you speak openly and honestly about it, and so to 1193 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:45,719 Speaker 1: all of her progressive allies as well. What is that about? 1194 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, It's about the fact, 1195 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 1: once again, like our entire benighted ruling class, that they 1196 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: cannot tolerate dissent. No one can dissent from their ideology, 1197 01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: from their agenda, and you must be destroyed if you 1198 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: dare speak out against them, and you better have thin 1199 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 1: skin as a consequent thick skin in response to it. 1200 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,839 Speaker 1: Their entire game is to try and smear and silence 1201 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 1: you into submission, and when that doesn't work, they'll use 1202 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: the full powers of the public and private sectors against you, 1203 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: as we'll talk about a little bit later in the 1204 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: program today, and as we talked about with respect to 1205 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 1: January sixth yesterday. It's obvious now for all to see, 1206 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: and it was obvious to me when I wrote this book, 1207 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: American Ingrate, and it came out about over a year 1208 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 1: ago now, in February of last year, right before the 1209 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: onset of the pandemic, that wokeism was the present, if 1210 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 1: not and future of the party. And that's where we 1211 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 1: are today. That's where we are today when you have 1212 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 1: these establishmentarians par excellence cowtowing to people who should be marginal, 1213 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,839 Speaker 1: fringe figures, people they should not want to be promoting, 1214 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: because broadly America rejects squad like figures, and we saw 1215 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty. So I guess you can say 1216 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: it's good that the Democratic Party can tinues caving to 1217 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: the squad wing. Politically maybe in the near term, but 1218 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 1: long term we are in major, major trouble. And as 1219 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 1: I argue in the book, if the party representing half 1220 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:16,440 Speaker 1: the country acquiesces to these views, these anti American, regressive 1221 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 1: views that again hurt most those who can least tolerate it, 1222 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 1: that punish the middle class, the lower class in the country, 1223 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: and prevent everyone from ever achieving the American dream, the 1224 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: aspirations that we all seek and protecting and preserving the 1225 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 1: American way of life. This Ben Onegarden for Buck Sex 1226 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: on the Buck Sex and show back right after this, 1227 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sex and show Ben Weinegarden 1228 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 1: in for Buck Sexton. And one of the running themes 1229 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: of this week is how wokeness is increasingly pervading every 1230 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: aspect of our society and effectively every single domain is 1231 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 1: part of an ideological war that one side has been 1232 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 1: waging really for decades, and the other side, namely our side, 1233 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 1: the side of patriotic and traditional Americans, has seeded that 1234 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: battlefield or not even understood the depths of the battle 1235 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: and the stakes of it. But now when you see 1236 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: cancel culture not just in the digital sphere, but in 1237 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: people's places of work, in the schools obviously, how the 1238 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: metastasizing cancer of CRT is hopefully now being rooted out, 1239 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 1: but through every aspect of our life that you can't 1240 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,599 Speaker 1: escape the hyper politicization of the woke. There needs to 1241 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 1: be a response to it. And one person who's been 1242 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 1: thinking about both the stakes and also how to respond 1243 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,599 Speaker 1: to these challenges is Nate Fisher. Nate wrote a great 1244 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 1: article at the American Minds, which is the project of 1245 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,720 Speaker 1: the Carmon Institute. And I'll disclose again that I do 1246 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,560 Speaker 1: some work on behalf of Claremont and I've written for 1247 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: the American mind as well. He wrote a piece about 1248 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 1: a week ago, Politics is interested in You. And it's 1249 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 1: worth noting that Nate has a background as an entrepreneur 1250 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,919 Speaker 1: and an investor. He's launching this project called New Founding, 1251 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: which he co founded, that touch on both business and 1252 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 1: politics and really how to respond to the woke anti 1253 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,879 Speaker 1: cultural revolution in your life, in your community and beyond. 1254 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: And Nate joins us. Now, thanks so much for coming 1255 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 1: on the program. Thanks Beren for having many so one 1256 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 1: of the things you wrote in this piece, I think 1257 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,919 Speaker 1: it perfectly captures where we are is that our society 1258 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 1: has morphed away from anything recognizable even ten years ago. 1259 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 1: For many, politics was always something away from home, away 1260 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 1: from daily life. It was somewhere else, often relevant mostly 1261 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: to small things like marginal differences in a tax bill. 1262 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,719 Speaker 1: Not anymore. A corrosive trend is developed as some become 1263 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 1: increasingly political and demanding the cost for others of expressing 1264 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 1: an opinion or even ignoring the wrong activist demand has 1265 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 1: grown intolerably high. And you go on to talk about 1266 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: the intimidation that many are facing in this country, the 1267 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 1: chilling and the silencing that's going on in this country. 1268 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Why does the left believe that it has to dominate 1269 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,680 Speaker 1: in every single sphere, well beyond politics, right down to 1270 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 1: the culture, your workplace, your school, and beyond. So I 1271 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 1: think it flows inevitably from their ideology. This is not 1272 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 1: a This is not a liberal movement that simply wants 1273 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:16,719 Speaker 1: to improve improve people's lives, maybe maybe even once universal healthcare, 1274 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,600 Speaker 1: because they care about people. This is a movement that 1275 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 1: is fundamentally revolutionary, and they see every one of these 1276 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: structures as inherently oppressive. They really want to reshape. They 1277 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 1: want to reshape our understanding of what it even means 1278 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 1: to be a human. I would say, uh, and that 1279 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 1: requires attacking every norm and structure that has been created 1280 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: by humans, that has been created by culture, that has 1281 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 1: shaped our culture. So you're going to see this across society. 1282 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 1: You're going to see this in uh, in actions, from 1283 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: work to basic community. It's and it's not going to stop. 1284 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,080 Speaker 1: There's going to be no end to it. Be of 1285 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 1: it's a revolutionary agenda. Yeah, I think it's worth noting 1286 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: that the kind of anti racist tip of the edge 1287 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,120 Speaker 1: of the woke anti cultural revolution over the last year, 1288 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: so called anti racism, because it's really racist in practice, really, 1289 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 1: I think describes well in part why you have to 1290 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: be woke or you're going to be shunted out of 1291 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: civil society today. And that's because to be an anti racist, 1292 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,599 Speaker 1: according to Ebermex Kendy, sort of the godfather of anti 1293 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: racism today, if you are not actively engaging in anti 1294 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 1: racist causes and policies, you are definitionally being a racist 1295 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 1: at a given time. So thus you can't just be neutral. 1296 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 1: You can't just stand on the sideline. If the other 1297 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 1: side says you're a bigot, if you're not going along 1298 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: with the woke agenda, then that means that you basically 1299 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: have to be engaged, just at a micro level tactically. 1300 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 1: How do you explain this to friends, neighbors, colleagues who 1301 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: are good natured but haven't studied Herbert marcusa and critical 1302 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 1: race and all of the political philosophy and theory behind 1303 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,599 Speaker 1: all this. How do you get them woke to what 1304 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: wokeism is really about? So I think it's a challenge. 1305 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. There's people who are closely following 1306 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: it and they see that, they see the writing on 1307 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: the wall, they see the trends. But for most people, 1308 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 1: I think it's it'll be a story that hits home. 1309 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 1: It'll be and it's hard to know what story that 1310 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,160 Speaker 1: will be. But there's enough stories coming out of some 1311 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 1: incredibly cruel response to someone, some just something that many 1312 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 1: people probably assumed would stop the pendulum and swimen swing 1313 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 1: in the other direction, and it never stopped. It went further. 1314 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 1: Whether it's whether it's the extreme pushing of a sexual 1315 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 1: agenda on children in many cases, or it's the or 1316 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: it's the not just firing, but mob really ritual sacrifice 1317 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,679 Speaker 1: of someone for what seems to be a fairly trivial 1318 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 1: offense or something that wouldn't need to be considered a 1319 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,839 Speaker 1: offensive few years ago. So I think for many people's 1320 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 1: it's something that they've begun to recognize in private, they 1321 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 1: see the problem. The real challenge I think for the 1322 01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 1: as you say, good natured people, is the right has 1323 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: traditionally shied away from thinking of politics in terms of conflict. 1324 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,599 Speaker 1: We've thought of it in terms of principles, it's one 1325 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 1: that is really glorified principles and ideals, whether they be 1326 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 1: the Constitution or universal views of right. And so I 1327 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,759 Speaker 1: try to shift the framework a little bit at times 1328 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 1: to a domain where people recognize the conflict is exists 1329 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: and is actually good to engage in. And that's the 1330 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 1: domain of national defense. I mean, no one doubts that 1331 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,679 Speaker 1: when a foreign power threatens our well being and fundamentally 1332 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 1: threatens our country actually good and honorable and actually an 1333 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 1: obligations to stand up and and challenge them. And that 1334 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,560 Speaker 1: involves things that go beyond just appealing to principles that 1335 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: that that go beyond just talking about niceness and decency 1336 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,759 Speaker 1: and a return to the basket, but really go to fighting, 1337 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,719 Speaker 1: fighting a conflict and doing what it takes to push 1338 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 1: back against people who threaten our way of life. And 1339 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people recognize intuitively that 1340 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 1: that is the domain that calls for that, and what 1341 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 1: they don't realize yet is the same principle applies at home. 1342 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 1: So if there are people who are going to threaten 1343 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 1: our way of life as fundamentally as as they see 1344 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,719 Speaker 1: in these anecdotes, it demands a different mindset, a mindset 1345 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: that that is familiar, but it's not familiar when applied 1346 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 1: to politics, a mindset of conflict. And my title alludes 1347 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 1: to this. It's it alludes to a quote by Trotsky 1348 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 1: who said, you may not be interested in war, but 1349 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,960 Speaker 1: war is interested in you. And that's a that's been 1350 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: an unfortunate fact of life for many people in many 1351 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 1: societies throughout history, and whether you like it or not, 1352 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 1: it's it's pushed on people. Yeah, I think it's worth 1353 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:23,120 Speaker 1: noting a couple of points. Obviously, principles and ideals and 1354 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,320 Speaker 1: values are vital in terms of having a vision for 1355 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,639 Speaker 1: a nation, for one's family, for one's community, and beyond. 1356 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 1: But translating those principles, ideals, and values into practice requires 1357 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 1: understanding the playing field and the battlefield, ideological or otherwise, 1358 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 1: as it really is. And I think it's very clear 1359 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,799 Speaker 1: that it is not a conservative value, principle or ideal 1360 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,920 Speaker 1: to lose to a to atalitarian onslaught. You have to 1361 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 1: see it for what it is, and you have to 1362 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: respond based on the size, scope and nature of the 1363 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 1: threat that we face. And also to your point about 1364 01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 1: foreign adversaries and how that kind of makes it concrete 1365 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,800 Speaker 1: and intelligible to anyone who cares about this country and 1366 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,479 Speaker 1: their children and their future in this place. Is that. Look, 1367 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,600 Speaker 1: look at our adversaries, how they adopt the same narratives, 1368 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 1: or in some cases they promulgate the narratives, and our 1369 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 1: own leftists pick them up in the Chinese Communist Party 1370 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 1: when their senior officials meet with their counterparts like Secretary 1371 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 1: blink In, our National security advisor Sullivan, and they essentially 1372 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,599 Speaker 1: espouse the sixteen nineteen project view of America, the critical 1373 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 1: race theory view of America of oppressor and oppressed. But 1374 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,719 Speaker 1: it's on the basis of race, what I would describe 1375 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 1: as a racial Marxism. It's very clear they love this. 1376 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,519 Speaker 1: This is a propaganda coup for them. So in some 1377 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 1: sense they are either dupes and useful idiots or worst 1378 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: of our worst adversaries. Or on the other hand, our 1379 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 1: worst adversaries are just glomming on to the same kind 1380 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 1: of narratives being put out by those adversaries for really decades, 1381 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 1: and it's really remarkable to see it at the commanding 1382 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,919 Speaker 1: heights of society speaking in the same tongue as basically 1383 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 1: as shi jinping apparatics. So we've got a couple of 1384 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 1: minutes before we have to take a break, before we 1385 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,600 Speaker 1: get there. I just want to know, from your perspective, 1386 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: what are the stakes if the woke onslaught continues unabated. 1387 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: What will this country look like in five, ten, fifteen years, 1388 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 1: or maybe sooner based upon how quickly it swept the land. 1389 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's very hard to predict timeline, 1390 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 1: and I tend to look not at timeline, which I 1391 01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 1: think has enormous uncerity, but trajectory and intent. And as 1392 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 1: I said, it's a revolutionary movement. It is one that 1393 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 1: it seeks to abolish the nuclear family. The original website 1394 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 1: of the Black Lives Matter organization seeks to eliminate the 1395 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 1: heteronormative family, and many talk about eliminating a subnormative society. 1396 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that looks like. I think 1397 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 1: that's it's inconceivable to imagine a society where it is 1398 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:05,960 Speaker 1: not normal or for people to live according to the 1399 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 1: sex they were born with. And so when you look 1400 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,720 Speaker 1: at it, when you look at goals like that, you 1401 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 1: have to just it's really only your imagination. I think 1402 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 1: can imagine where that might go. It's an unseavable goal, 1403 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 1: which means probably just continual turmoil and revolution, but certainly 1404 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:28,439 Speaker 1: it means the elimination of any ability to have control, 1405 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 1: even within your own family, of what your kids are taught, 1406 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,920 Speaker 1: any ability to go to work in anything less than 1407 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 1: a environment that demands total conformity, total acquiescence, a willingness 1408 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: to make what are effectively genuinelections to a set of 1409 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 1: increasingly intrusive religious demands, and it will come to encompass 1410 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,639 Speaker 1: every aspect of your life. It's very hard to imagine 1411 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,240 Speaker 1: what that looks like, but it will take away your 1412 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 1: freedom to dissent in any context. I know. Even in Scotland, 1413 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,400 Speaker 1: I think there was talk of a hate crimes bill 1414 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 1: that could make certain conversations illegal even in your own home, 1415 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: so you could have family members or guests reporting on 1416 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 1: you to to the police, which I think is something 1417 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 1: that's probably a familiar pattern to people from Eastern Europe 1418 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,320 Speaker 1: under communism, but not something that many of us can 1419 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 1: even imagine what that feels like. This is just another example, 1420 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: writ large, of the convergence that we see today between 1421 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,640 Speaker 1: our Chinese Communist Party supporting and cow towing elites, and 1422 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: how that manifests itself in US mimicking them. It's it's 1423 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 1: socialism or Chinese socialism with American characteristics essentially here well 1424 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: more with Nate Fisher after a quick break. We've been 1425 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 1: talking with Nate Fisher about his article at The American Mind, 1426 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,919 Speaker 1: which I urge you to check out. Politics is interested 1427 01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 1: in you, and talking about sort of how woke ism 1428 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 1: is manifesting itself in all of our institutions. You see 1429 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 1: it in corporations. Any major, large, publicly traded company has 1430 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 1: sort of conceded already to the cult of diversity, equity, 1431 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 1: and inclusion, which is really none of those things. It's 1432 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 1: about imposing in a ideology on workers and essentially in 1433 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: some respects brainwashing them or bludgeoning them into submission to 1434 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,439 Speaker 1: what is a leftist ideological agenda, which by the way, 1435 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,679 Speaker 1: is going to destroy morale in many of these companies. 1436 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 1: That's going to have business consequences for them. And I 1437 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,599 Speaker 1: think that's a good place to start before we get 1438 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,559 Speaker 1: to what is to be done given the size, scope 1439 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 1: and nature of the problems we face. So from your perspective, Innate, 1440 01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,160 Speaker 1: as someone who has experienced in the entrepreneurial world and 1441 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 1: the investing world, as well, to what extent do you 1442 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 1: believe the executives at these major companies are really true 1443 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,679 Speaker 1: believers in this agenda or are they cynical and think 1444 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 1: they can essentially feed the crocodile so it won't eat 1445 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 1: them at the end of the day, regard of us 1446 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 1: what it means for their bottom line when it comes 1447 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,479 Speaker 1: to the woke on swat in terms of the millions 1448 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 1: and in some cases I think in the aggregate maybe 1449 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 1: billions of dollars that effectively go towards wokesm either in 1450 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,320 Speaker 1: terms of these movements themselves, like Black Lives Matter and 1451 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:20,320 Speaker 1: at the aggregate level, or other related causes. So I 1452 01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 1: think it varies widely, and I think we really have 1453 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 1: we have multiple classes of people running companies. There's there's 1454 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial founders and there's a lot of entrepreneurial founders who 1455 01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I know don't believe this. It's widely is widely discussed 1456 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 1: in private. They recognize the damage that wokeness can do 1457 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 1: to their morale. They're they're terrified of mobs bowling up 1458 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: at them, and they really do hope and that's really 1459 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,720 Speaker 1: the group that this is this is aimed at. There's 1460 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,880 Speaker 1: people who who recognize this is a problem. I kind 1461 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 1: of hope they can keep their head down and they 1462 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,679 Speaker 1: can make a few token gestures. They can beat the beasts, 1463 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,799 Speaker 1: they can pay them off, and it'll pass them by. 1464 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,439 Speaker 1: And that's a that's a group needs to wake up. 1465 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,559 Speaker 1: They need to recognize that the demands are They can't 1466 01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 1: just give twenty thousand dollars to a local BLM organization 1467 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 1: and buy themselves a few years of peace. At this point, 1468 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:18,240 Speaker 1: it's entered, uh, it's entered their workforce in a way 1469 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 1: that if they don't actively if they really don't actively 1470 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 1: look out to resist it, it will it will encompass 1471 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 1: their org I would say there's other groups. A lot 1472 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,559 Speaker 1: of major corporations are effectively run by careerists. They're run 1473 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 1: by by MBAs who are probably better at climbing the 1474 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,000 Speaker 1: corporate ladder than anything else. I think those people, many 1475 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 1: in many cases are to the extent they're true believers 1476 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: in anything. They believe in the system that promotes this, 1477 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,720 Speaker 1: and it's a system that fundamentally rewards careerists and bureaucrats. 1478 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,480 Speaker 1: It's one where it's one that you regularly see replacing 1479 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,720 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial founders who don't quite tow the party line well 1480 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 1: enough with woke technocrats, and those people not only believe 1481 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,920 Speaker 1: that they stand to gain from it and they have, 1482 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 1: they have a real incentive to continue this system. So 1483 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,759 Speaker 1: I think one counter example is great, which is Elon Musk, 1484 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 1: who's a founder who is trying to do something hard 1485 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:24,000 Speaker 1: enough that I think he recognizes he recognizes the impossibility 1486 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 1: of beating the beast if he if he tries to 1487 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,720 Speaker 1: compromise with them at all, he will never make it 1488 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,800 Speaker 1: to Mars, and I think he knows that, and that's 1489 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 1: why you see him resists this, whereas a lot of founders, 1490 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 1: especially building social networks and things, are they're trying to 1491 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 1: send me is not quite as hard, and I think 1492 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,040 Speaker 1: there's a perception that you can kind of play along 1493 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 1: with it. The only problem with Elon Musk, and it's 1494 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,519 Speaker 1: for another day, is how China may effectively own Tessa 1495 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,280 Speaker 1: at the end of his travails with them, which shows 1496 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,200 Speaker 1: you that you can you can never buy off any 1497 01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 1: of these woke protection rackets or mobs. In effect, you 1498 01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,639 Speaker 1: have to stand ultimately for the country and for freedom. 1499 01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,560 Speaker 1: But setting all that aside in just a minute and 1500 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,400 Speaker 1: a half or so tell us about Newfounding, which I 1501 01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:14,720 Speaker 1: gather is a response to everything that we're talking about. Yes, 1502 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 1: a new Founding is built on the recognition that you 1503 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 1: need to you need a holistic response. It's not something 1504 01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 1: that can be just said at the margins. We need 1505 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,760 Speaker 1: a space, really a domain to be freed from this. 1506 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,519 Speaker 1: They can free you up to be more human. Newfounding is, 1507 01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,800 Speaker 1: as we describe it, as a cultural and commercial syndicate 1508 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 1: that really brings together people from business, technology, politics, and media. 1509 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 1: We're building a number of projects, one of which is 1510 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,519 Speaker 1: a newsletter. You can go to newfounding dot com subscribe 1511 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: to a newsletter so we'll give you updates and it'll 1512 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:53,280 Speaker 1: point you to products and businesses that are either aligned 1513 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,040 Speaker 1: with your values or at least are refusing to the 1514 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 1: bow of the Walken mob and begin pouring consumer dollars 1515 01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:03,920 Speaker 1: into a pocket of the economy that will hopefully be 1516 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,400 Speaker 1: the seed of something much bigger. We're working on a 1517 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:10,200 Speaker 1: hiring website and directory so you can work with and 1518 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,120 Speaker 1: do business with people who again are willing to resist this. 1519 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,799 Speaker 1: And finally, we're working on a number of media projects, 1520 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 1: including a lifestyle publication. It talks about how to live 1521 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,760 Speaker 1: in the digital age. That is going to allow you 1522 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,759 Speaker 1: to really maintain your humanity in the face of especially 1523 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,000 Speaker 1: a big tech establishment that is increasingly enforcing this agenda 1524 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,679 Speaker 1: behind you. So it's I and there'll be many many 1525 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:35,639 Speaker 1: more projects that flow to that. It will be working 1526 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,800 Speaker 1: with many more companies. So really the goal is to 1527 01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 1: bring together a number of different people in a number 1528 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 1: of different domains to point toward and build the seeds 1529 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:51,160 Speaker 1: of something better and more human and ultimately far more 1530 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: effective and competitive. We've been speaking with Nate Fisher, co 1531 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 1: founder of Newfounding. Thanks so much for coming on the program. 1532 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,960 Speaker 1: Appreciate the work that you're doing. It's so imperative that 1533 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: we go on offense and not just be defensive and 1534 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,280 Speaker 1: look askance at history yelling stop. We can actually do 1535 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:11,439 Speaker 1: something about it, So appreciate all your efforts there. Thanks Benn, 1536 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,719 Speaker 1: and I appreciate the opportunity to talk with you. Welcome 1537 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 1: back to the Buck Sexton Show. This is Ben Weegarden 1538 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,280 Speaker 1: in for Buck Sexton, and we were just having a 1539 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 1: conversation with Nate Fisher about the size, scope and nature 1540 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,519 Speaker 1: of the wocist threat to the American way of life 1541 01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 1: and obviously the topic front and center, I think for 1542 01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,360 Speaker 1: huge squads of the country at this point is what 1543 01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:39,600 Speaker 1: is transpired in our schools. And there's been some amazing reporting, 1544 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 1: even separate and apart from critical race theory, but almost 1545 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 1: in terms of the response to it, including among those 1546 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 1: who have lived under real cultural revolutions like those in 1547 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,840 Speaker 1: communist China or North Korea recently, that have just been 1548 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,599 Speaker 1: remarkable in terms of their takes on what they're seeing 1549 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 1: in this country. And it's a sad fact, but those 1550 01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,759 Speaker 1: who have lived under tyranny, who get out of tyranny 1551 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: and come here seem to have a more keen sort 1552 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 1: of spidey sense as to what is going on when 1553 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,000 Speaker 1: it appears that a cultural revolution has come to this country. 1554 01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,719 Speaker 1: They've seen it, They've seen what happens when a society 1555 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 1: crumbles under tyranny, and they are the canaries in the 1556 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 1: coal mine for us, and many of us have never 1557 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,760 Speaker 1: lived under anything like it, and so we take for 1558 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,759 Speaker 1: granted that what came before will follow in the future. Again, 1559 01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,000 Speaker 1: so a couple of remarkable pieces worth noting, and this 1560 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,960 Speaker 1: comes in context by the way of a school district 1561 01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,559 Speaker 1: in New Jersey, and I mentioned before I was raised 1562 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,600 Speaker 1: in the New Jersey suburbs, not too far from the 1563 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,040 Speaker 1: school district. And I moved back to New Jersey recently 1564 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,959 Speaker 1: over the last year and know this place well, Randolph, 1565 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,920 Speaker 1: New Jersey. And there's been this huge outrage over the 1566 01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 1: fact that the Randolph Board of Education is removing the 1567 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:05,759 Speaker 1: days from holidays from the school calendar all together, following 1568 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,840 Speaker 1: an earlier debate about how to refer to Columbus Day, 1569 01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 1: of course, as Indigenous People's Day, or whatever day they 1570 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:16,599 Speaker 1: want to call it, whatever the woke demand Randolph looks like. 1571 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,640 Speaker 1: And I know because I spent some time there, a 1572 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 1: typical suburban town in America. So the fact that a 1573 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,679 Speaker 1: school board there went so woke as to not only 1574 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,760 Speaker 1: try to rename Columbus Day, but then to say, you 1575 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,400 Speaker 1: know what, we got to get rid of all holiday 1576 01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:37,240 Speaker 1: names period, shows you how deep down to the very 1577 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 1: fabric of society at our local schools the woke cultural 1578 01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 1: rot goes. The fact that there's been a massive outpouring 1579 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,240 Speaker 1: At the time of this latest article on it from 1580 01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,240 Speaker 1: New Jersey News source, it says there are twenty five 1581 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,400 Speaker 1: hundred people who have signed a petition calling for the 1582 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,599 Speaker 1: board of Education to resign it shows you that there 1583 01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:01,000 Speaker 1: is there is a maybe silent majority that's finally becoming 1584 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:07,439 Speaker 1: outspoken in this country, rising up against this asinine revolution 1585 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,599 Speaker 1: that we've seen. And this is an anti cultural revolution 1586 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,879 Speaker 1: almost definitionally, when you're talking about removing holiday names altogether, 1587 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,480 Speaker 1: it's not just toppling statues, it's not just renaming holidays. 1588 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:22,920 Speaker 1: It's ultimately destroying whole segments of society. And that's where 1589 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,320 Speaker 1: we are today. So in terms of you know, how 1590 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:27,640 Speaker 1: long is it going to take and where is it 1591 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,960 Speaker 1: going to end up, a question that we addressed in 1592 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,360 Speaker 1: that last interview with Nate Fisher, we're there in a 1593 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,839 Speaker 1: lot of respects, and I think we should be thankful 1594 01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 1: that there are people who've come to America for freedom, 1595 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 1: who are speaking out about what they see and raising 1596 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:48,120 Speaker 1: quarry On calls against this absurd anti cultural revolution. So 1597 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,640 Speaker 1: here was one that caught my eye, and this is 1598 01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,120 Speaker 1: an article that was in Fox News titled North Korean 1599 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,840 Speaker 1: defector says even North Korea was not this nuts. After 1600 01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,320 Speaker 1: attending Iva League school, and the school in question is 1601 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,679 Speaker 1: Columbia University, and I should say, yeah, I'm an alum 1602 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,440 Speaker 1: of Columbia University at the time, I was there, Mahamud Akhmadenijad. 1603 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,240 Speaker 1: You may remember the Iranian leader came to campus and 1604 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 1: was given a platform to speak, So you can only 1605 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,320 Speaker 1: imagine that was like a decade ago. So where's it today? 1606 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,600 Speaker 1: And this is one of the few remaining institutions in 1607 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,599 Speaker 1: the country of higher education that still reads the classic 1608 01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,719 Speaker 1: books Greek, Latin and beyond, still reads the core texts. 1609 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,960 Speaker 1: Every student to Columbia University or Columbia College and Beyond 1610 01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 1: has to read these core texts of Western civilization because 1611 01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,439 Speaker 1: they're still understood to be the building blocks of our society. 1612 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,280 Speaker 1: So someone going to an institution like that comes out 1613 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:42,519 Speaker 1: with this view. Yamni Park is her name. She says, 1614 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,640 Speaker 1: I expected that I was paying this fortune all this 1615 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,920 Speaker 1: time and energy to learn how to think. But they're 1616 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,200 Speaker 1: forcing you to think the way they want you to think. 1617 01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,280 Speaker 1: I realized, Wow, this is insane. I thought America was different, 1618 01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,120 Speaker 1: but I saw so many similarities to what I saw 1619 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,240 Speaker 1: in North Korea that I started worrying. This is a 1620 01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,400 Speaker 1: North Korean defector who settled in the United States, transferred 1621 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,120 Speaker 1: to Columbia from a South Korean university in twenty sixteen. 1622 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,320 Speaker 1: The article goes on. Similarities that she sees include anti 1623 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 1: Western sentiment, collective guilt, and suffocating political correctness. Yamni saw 1624 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,000 Speaker 1: red flags immediately upon arriving at the school. During orientation, 1625 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,479 Speaker 1: she was scolded by a university staff member for admitting 1626 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,280 Speaker 1: she enjoyed classic literature such as Jane Austen. I said, 1627 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:22,880 Speaker 1: I love those books. I thought it was a good thing, 1628 01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,679 Speaker 1: recalled Park. Then she said, did you know those writers 1629 01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,240 Speaker 1: had a colonial mindset? They were racists and bigots and 1630 01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:34,439 Speaker 1: are subconsciously brainwashing you. The article goes on. It only 1631 01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,479 Speaker 1: got worse from there, as Yamni realized that every one 1632 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,080 Speaker 1: of her quest is at the Ivy League school with 1633 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 1: it was infected with what she saw as anti American propaganda, 1634 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:45,240 Speaker 1: reminiscence of the sword she had grown up with. American 1635 01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,920 Speaker 1: bastard was one word for North Koreans, Park was taught 1636 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,120 Speaker 1: growing up the math problems would say, there are four 1637 01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,839 Speaker 1: American bastards, you kill two of them. How many American 1638 01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 1: bastards are left to kill? How progressive? She was also 1639 01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 1: shocked and confused by issues surrounding gender and language, with 1640 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,880 Speaker 1: every class asking students to announce their preferred pronouns and 1641 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,160 Speaker 1: this is the cult of diversity, equity, inclusion that I'm 1642 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:11,400 Speaker 1: talking about, that's in every single institution. English is my 1643 01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,679 Speaker 1: third language. I learned it as an adult. I sometimes 1644 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,519 Speaker 1: still say he or she by mistake, and now they're 1645 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,000 Speaker 1: going to ask me to call them they. How the 1646 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,400 Speaker 1: heck do I incorporate that into my sentences? It was chaos, 1647 01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,600 Speaker 1: said at Yamni. It felt like the regression in civilization. 1648 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,920 Speaker 1: Even North Korea is not this nuts. North Korea was 1649 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:33,559 Speaker 1: pretty crazy, but not this crazy. It's direct quote. She 1650 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,759 Speaker 1: goes on to say, these kids keep saying how they're oppressed, 1651 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,439 Speaker 1: how much injustice they've experienced. They don't know how hard 1652 01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,800 Speaker 1: it is to be free. I literally crossed through the 1653 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,479 Speaker 1: middle of the Gobi Desert to be free. But what 1654 01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 1: I did was nothing. So many people fought harder than 1655 01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:50,439 Speaker 1: me and didn't make it. And she published a memoir 1656 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,000 Speaker 1: in Order to Live, where she described what it took 1657 01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,600 Speaker 1: to survive under one of the world's most brutal dictatorships. 1658 01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,000 Speaker 1: She goes on to say, in North Korea, I literally 1659 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,799 Speaker 1: we believe that my dear leader Kim Jong ouen was starving. 1660 01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 1: He's the fattest guy. How can anyone believe that. And 1661 01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 1: then somebody showed me a photo and said, look at him, 1662 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 1: he's the fattest guy. Other people are all thin, and 1663 01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:10,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, why did I not 1664 01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,800 Speaker 1: notice that he was fat? Because I never learned how 1665 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,679 Speaker 1: to think critically. This is that is what is happening 1666 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,479 Speaker 1: in America, she continued. People see things, but they've just 1667 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 1: completely lost the ability to think critically. North Korean's don't 1668 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:24,800 Speaker 1: have the internet, we don't have accessed any of these 1669 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,599 Speaker 1: great thinkers. We don't know anything. But here, while having everything, 1670 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:32,000 Speaker 1: people chose to be brainwashed and they deny it. You 1671 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,600 Speaker 1: guys have lost common sense to a degree that I 1672 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,280 Speaker 1: was in North Korean cannot even comprehend. And it goes 1673 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 1: on from there. She's not the only defector. There was 1674 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,879 Speaker 1: a Virginia mom recently, someone who endured Mazedong's cultural revolution 1675 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,400 Speaker 1: before immigrating to the US. Her name is she Van Fleet, 1676 01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,560 Speaker 1: and she told the Loudon County School board members in Virginia, 1677 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,720 Speaker 1: you are now training, teaching, training our children to be 1678 01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,280 Speaker 1: social justice warriors and to loathe our country in our history, 1679 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,320 Speaker 1: she likened CRT. According to this article, which critics to 1680 01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,000 Speaker 1: Ride as a form of neo racism to China's Cultural Revolution, 1681 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,800 Speaker 1: she said in part, and I believe this was during 1682 01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:11,480 Speaker 1: an open hearing. One of the teachers was considered bourgeoisie 1683 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,840 Speaker 1: because she liked to wear pretty clothes. Van Fleet said, 1684 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,160 Speaker 1: so the students attacked her and spit on her. She 1685 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 1: was covered with spit, and pretty soon it became violence. 1686 01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,839 Speaker 1: This is her describing her time during the Cultural Revolution 1687 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 1: as a student. To me, in a lot of Chinese, 1688 01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,240 Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking that we escape communism and now we experience 1689 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,479 Speaker 1: communism here direct quote. Everything that was considered old feudalist 1690 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,000 Speaker 1: of oz Buddhas, everything was taken out in smash, she said. 1691 01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:39,560 Speaker 1: Isn't that exactly what we're doing here in American society today? 1692 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,639 Speaker 1: We were asked to report if we hear anything about 1693 01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,839 Speaker 1: someone saying anything showing that there's a lack of complete 1694 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,960 Speaker 1: loyalty to Mao. There were people reporting their parents, and 1695 01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,880 Speaker 1: their parents ended up in jail. She's going, she quotes. 1696 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,920 Speaker 1: She's quoted. I felt like it's such a free country, 1697 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,799 Speaker 1: meaning I have free access to all sorts of information 1698 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,360 Speaker 1: books on both sides of the issue. In America, I 1699 01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,840 Speaker 1: can't really just say what I mean, now, even though 1700 01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 1: the other side can say whatever to me into a 1701 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 1: lot of Chinese, it's heartbreaking that we escaped communism and 1702 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 1: now we experience communism here there in China. We were 1703 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,080 Speaker 1: taught to denounce our heritage, and Red guards destroyed anything 1704 01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,559 Speaker 1: that is not Communists against statues, books and anything else. 1705 01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,080 Speaker 1: We were also encouraged again to report on each other. 1706 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,000 Speaker 1: This is indeed the American version of the Chinese cultural revolution. 1707 01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:23,680 Speaker 1: The critical race theory has its roots in cultural Marxism. 1708 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:25,960 Speaker 1: She goes on to say, I just want Americans to 1709 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,160 Speaker 1: know that their privilege is to be here, living in America. 1710 01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,360 Speaker 1: That is just the biggest privilege. I do not think 1711 01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people understand. They're thinking they're doing the 1712 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,840 Speaker 1: right thing. Be against racism sounds really good, but they're 1713 01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:38,840 Speaker 1: basically breaking the system that is against racism. And these 1714 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,920 Speaker 1: are not the only folks, I mean, their a litany 1715 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,960 Speaker 1: of others as well. I referenced yesterday an article in 1716 01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,760 Speaker 1: City Journal which was talking about the fight in New 1717 01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:53,520 Speaker 1: York City over standardized testing and the attempt to abolish 1718 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,800 Speaker 1: standardized testing as a measure for students to get in 1719 01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,640 Speaker 1: on the basis of a metric in large part of 1720 01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,640 Speaker 1: their aptitude, a measure of their aptitude to go to 1721 01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,960 Speaker 1: Eliot public schools, selective public schools in this area, which 1722 01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:11,439 Speaker 1: have been a way out of poverty and misery for 1723 01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,479 Speaker 1: thousands of people historically, on the basis of what they 1724 01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:20,680 Speaker 1: bring to the table, their individual accomplishment, achievement, their intellect. 1725 01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,759 Speaker 1: This talks to another person in this article, Done Zang, 1726 01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,599 Speaker 1: one of the parents who was opposed to this effort 1727 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:37,040 Speaker 1: to purge these schools of standardized testing. It says when 1728 01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,360 Speaker 1: he took a few hours off from work as a 1729 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,439 Speaker 1: data analyst on Wall Street to join the June twenty 1730 01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,439 Speaker 1: eighteen protests outside City Hall, he didn't think he was 1731 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,360 Speaker 1: embarking on a political journey. In fact, he about to 1732 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 1: stay away from politics after participating the TMM and Square 1733 01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,800 Speaker 1: protests of nineteen eighty nine. The father of two had 1734 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,880 Speaker 1: an attended to Protestants coming to the US in nineteen 1735 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,720 Speaker 1: ninety five to pursue a PhD. He didn't know who 1736 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 1: the New York Governor was or what the council did. 1737 01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,880 Speaker 1: He was born in a small village in nineteen sixty nine, 1738 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,679 Speaker 1: seven years before the death in China of then Chairman 1739 01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 1: Mao Zedong Mao was no fan of exams. During the 1740 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,320 Speaker 1: cast or the Cultural Revolution, college entrance exams were largely halted. 1741 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,840 Speaker 1: Admissions were based on recommendations from the people, and students 1742 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,759 Speaker 1: who could barely read and write were sent to college 1743 01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,800 Speaker 1: that exceptional period aside, however, exams administered by the highest 1744 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,320 Speaker 1: level of government has existed for more than fourteen hundred 1745 01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,360 Speaker 1: years in China. It's how they compete in spite of 1746 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:31,080 Speaker 1: their communism. And he goes on to talk about what 1747 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:35,599 Speaker 1: it was like in China, and he says equality should 1748 01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,720 Speaker 1: be about equal opportunities, not equal outcomes. The plans for 1749 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,439 Speaker 1: school diversity in New York, which is what they supposed 1750 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,720 Speaker 1: driving force bind getting read of these standards in terms 1751 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,760 Speaker 1: of standardized testing, all focused on the outcome. They sound 1752 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:52,200 Speaker 1: too much like Mao's policies to me. This article goes 1753 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,720 Speaker 1: on to quote other parents as well, talking about this 1754 01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:02,920 Speaker 1: sort of Maoist really insurrection overtaking of our schools. And 1755 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,919 Speaker 1: one of those quotes is as follows from the president 1756 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:12,599 Speaker 1: of a group who's opposed to these anti meritocratic proposals, says, 1757 01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,200 Speaker 1: this is with respect critical race theory. China's Mao used 1758 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 1: to call the tools he adopted to push forward as 1759 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,599 Speaker 1: communist agenda, the three flags. I think the CRT sounds 1760 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:25,519 Speaker 1: like one of the communist red flags. And there's also 1761 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,840 Speaker 1: a quote talking about how they viewed CRT as a 1762 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,520 Speaker 1: hateful fraud and a common source of anti Asian racism. 1763 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 1: It's one last quote from this piece from mister Zang. 1764 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,120 Speaker 1: The cultural revolution in China suddenly ended in nineteen seventy six, 1765 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,760 Speaker 1: and the college entrance exams resumed in nineteen seventy seven. 1766 01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,519 Speaker 1: A lot of historic trends that seem perpetual are like this. 1767 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,479 Speaker 1: When the turning point arrives, you need to be prepared. 1768 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:50,640 Speaker 1: Take a quick break, and we'll finish up here. In 1769 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,679 Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show, Ben Wanger, and in four bucks 1770 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,439 Speaker 1: Sexton yesterday we touched on January sixth then how it's 1771 01:44:56,439 --> 01:45:01,160 Speaker 1: being used leveraged to impose a coming war on domestic 1772 01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,640 Speaker 1: violent extremism. And today the Biden administration put out a 1773 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,880 Speaker 1: domestic terror strategy. And I'm sure before the week is 1774 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,680 Speaker 1: out we'll be able to go in depth on this, 1775 01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 1: but I think it's worth noting from their terror sheet 1776 01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,720 Speaker 1: sort of the high level points. First of all, they 1777 01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 1: say domestic terrorism. The most lethal elements of today's domestic 1778 01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,479 Speaker 1: terrorism threat are one racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists 1779 01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,600 Speaker 1: who advocate through the superiority of the white race, and 1780 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,559 Speaker 1: two anti government or anti authority violent extremists such as 1781 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 1: militia violent extremists. They never define who these groups are. 1782 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,600 Speaker 1: They never define what ideas qualify as the kind of 1783 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,440 Speaker 1: ideas harbored by these domestic violent extremists. They never quantify 1784 01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:43,120 Speaker 1: and qualify how big this threat is. But it could 1785 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:46,280 Speaker 1: likely mean you because they don't define it. Goes on 1786 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,679 Speaker 1: to say, US government will augment its efforts to address 1787 01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,160 Speaker 1: online terrorists, recruitment and mobilization of violence by domestic terrorists 1788 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,800 Speaker 1: through increased information sharing with the technology sector and the 1789 01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 1: creation of innovative ways to foster digital literacy and build 1790 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 1: resilience to recruitment and mobilization. What does that give you 1791 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,679 Speaker 1: any confidence that basically the government's going to be working 1792 01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,439 Speaker 1: hand in hand with big tech to pursue whoever they 1793 01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,599 Speaker 1: perceive the threat to be in this country. Again, protecting 1794 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:16,120 Speaker 1: our life and limb is the most important task of 1795 01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,840 Speaker 1: our government in general and our commander in chief in particular. 1796 01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,880 Speaker 1: But what happens when it's weaponized against innocent American people, 1797 01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:26,479 Speaker 1: wrong thinking American people, And as we know it appears, 1798 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 1: based on Julie Kelly's reporting, that there are people essentially 1799 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,080 Speaker 1: being held political prisoners for their views on what had 1800 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,280 Speaker 1: transpired in the twenty twenty elections. So should you have 1801 01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,759 Speaker 1: any confidence? Should you have any confidence in the system 1802 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 1: protecting our most cherished liberties and justice when it's been 1803 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,800 Speaker 1: weaponized so many times over the last four plus years 1804 01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,439 Speaker 1: against former President Trump and every single person in his orbit. 1805 01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 1: And tomorrow we're going to talk to Ron Johnson, Senator 1806 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,400 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson from Wisconsin on this program. He's been targeted 1807 01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:58,360 Speaker 1: mercilessly and called a Russian agent for daring to take 1808 01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:02,120 Speaker 1: a different position with respect to whatever the conventional narrative 1809 01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,600 Speaker 1: is on issues from Hunter Biden and Russian collusion and 1810 01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:11,200 Speaker 1: Ukrainian collusion to beyond, and of course, taking an unpopular 1811 01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,519 Speaker 1: position with respect to vaccine in the eyes of our 1812 01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,600 Speaker 1: betters gets booted off by big tech. Terrorsheet goes on 1813 01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,519 Speaker 1: to talk about US government improving employee screening to enhanced 1814 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,479 Speaker 1: methods for identifying domestic terrorists who might pose insider threats. 1815 01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:27,200 Speaker 1: DOJ and DHS are similarly pursuing efforts to ensure domestic 1816 01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:29,759 Speaker 1: terrorists are not employed within our military or law enforcement 1817 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 1: ranks and improve screening in vetting processes. Okay, we know 1818 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:36,080 Speaker 1: that those processes now seem to describe as potential domestic 1819 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,519 Speaker 1: violent extreme as conservatives serving in the armed forces. And 1820 01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,360 Speaker 1: it goes on to say every component of government has 1821 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,599 Speaker 1: a role to play in rooting out racism and bigotry 1822 01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:48,040 Speaker 1: and advancing equity, not equality for all Americans. We'll delve 1823 01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,280 Speaker 1: into the details of this later in the week, but 1824 01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,840 Speaker 1: they are setting up such a wide open standards, such 1825 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,920 Speaker 1: a liberal lack standard, that you can have no confidence 1826 01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:01,320 Speaker 1: in people who view you as their enemy, essentially to 1827 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,840 Speaker 1: actually go about this in a judicious fashion, or to 1828 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:07,400 Speaker 1: even be able to substantiate their claims justifying this whole, massive, 1829 01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:12,439 Speaker 1: pervasive government wide effort. Our liberties and justice are at stake. 1830 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,720 Speaker 1: It's all on the table right now, and that's why 1831 01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,600 Speaker 1: we're touching all the third rails they don't want to 1832 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,080 Speaker 1: talk about during this week, because we need to speak 1833 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,679 Speaker 1: openly and honestly and courageously without fear in the face 1834 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,920 Speaker 1: of this totalitarian onslaught. As I mentioned Tomorrow, we've got 1835 01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,120 Speaker 1: a great program wind up. We'll have not only center 1836 01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:32,000 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson, but another figure that the ruling class loves 1837 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,280 Speaker 1: to try and cancel who touches all sorts of third 1838 01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:38,000 Speaker 1: rails on the merits Charles Murray as well. I hope 1839 01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:39,920 Speaker 1: you'll tune in for that. This has been Ben Weingarten 1840 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:41,639 Speaker 1: in for Buck Sex and on the Buck Sex and Show. 1841 01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,640 Speaker 1: I want to thank Buck for the opportunity, and I 1842 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,840 Speaker 1: want to thank you for listening during this entire week. 1843 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. God bless you, 1844 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:50,360 Speaker 1: God Bless America.