1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Ronanian. If they asked me what's the hardest part of 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: my job, I think it's this. I think this is 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: probably the most difficult thing I'd get to do during 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: the course of the week. Is condemned a vehicle. The 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Car Doctor doesn't have misfire faults right now? No, no, no, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: right that that resolt. They're saying, I need a new 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: catalytic converted to that volley up the act. Well, you 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: may need a new catalytic converter, but there actually have 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: got it backwards. Welcome to the radio home of ron 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: and Nian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage. Doors 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your call 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: at eight five five six and now he running. Hey, 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: welcome and thanks for stopping by the garage today. Run 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: an in the car doctorate your service. Let's let's not 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: waste any time at zero zero. Let's get over and 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: talk to Paul from Virginia. Paul, Welcome to the Car Doctor, 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: Sir ninety one Bronco. What's going on yes or appreciate 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: to take my call. Uh, not any one Bronco and uh, 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: it's got the five point eight and uh it started 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: doing this the other day. Where if it doesn't, it's 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: not done it yet or yuh when cold. But if 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: it's uh, if it's got um you know heat going 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: to it, then when you go to start it, it Uh. 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't do it every time, but it may go 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: clunk zo. It might do that once or twice and 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: then the second or third time starts like everything's fine, 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: no problems. It sounds like it sounds like you're describing 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: the starter drive doesn't stay engaged. Yeah, that's why I 32 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: figured the Bendix. Um and uh okay. The the other thing, 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: um that is kind of strange is that it's an 34 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: automatic transmission. It's uh, it's a four speed over drive. 35 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: And if you if you put a drive, you know, 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: everything is perfect. It's normal. If you put it in second, 37 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: takes off perfect, it'll stay. This will stay in second 38 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: unless you go with them drive work. Um. But if 39 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: you take off and first, as I've done sometimes, um, 40 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: and it's not like I'm going too fast and first 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm not. I would quickly change a second, but it 42 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: might like skip almost like it's missing gears or something. 43 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Then then heck, hitch up, so it's like a slip, 44 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: but it doesn't. The engine is not revving, so it's 45 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: it's peculiar. Do you have D with a circle and 46 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: L on the dash display? No? No, this is this 47 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: has got the full quadrant one, one, two, three, uh 48 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: with three then going to over drive. Um, unless you 49 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: have hit the switch on the dash which would then 50 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: keep it in down and thirty. And you're saying, if 51 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: you pull it into first, you pull it into manual 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: low and you accelerate. When you get to the shift 53 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: point for first where it would normally shift a second, 54 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: the engine flares as if the trans is slipping. Yeah, 55 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: the well, the engine doesn't seem to rev up, but 56 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: it's like it's it like skips a beat and h 57 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: and as I you know, and then then of course 58 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: then at that point I'll put it in a a second 59 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: and then it's fine, um, and it's never done this, 60 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: never done this. Uh. If you take off in second, 61 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: which is happy to do, it's a um or if 62 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: you just put it in drive and you know, well, 63 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: I think when you I think when you when you 64 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: pull it into second. Is it actually pulling it into 65 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: second or is it pulling it into first and then 66 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: it'll shift a second. Are you starting out in two? No, 67 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: it takes off in second. Yeah, I had I had 68 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: uh Chrysler product Um. That was my first cart with 69 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the seven seven torque flight, and if you put it 70 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: in a second, it still took off the first But 71 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: with this, if you put it in a second, it 72 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: takes off a second, which gives you a better start 73 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: if you got no. So so so let me ask you. 74 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. At this age in 75 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: milege if I told you you had to take the 76 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: trans apart to fix the first gear problem, would you 77 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: be ready to do that? Oh? Yeah, yeah? This this 78 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: is this is a very very very very solid Bronco. 79 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Really you might as well say rust free other than 80 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, surface rust on the frame. Well, what I'm asking, 81 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: because what I'm asking is what I'm asking is you know, 82 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: this is a very mechanical transmission. There's not a lot 83 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: of computer involvement with this vehicle, So this is a 84 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: very mechanical transmission. So short of if it was something 85 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: external that we could sit down and figure out and say, well, 86 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: it's a servo or an accumulator or something which probably 87 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: would acquire trans removal and disassemble. Anyway, if it's running 88 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: fine in drive, right when you start out and drive, 89 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: does it really doesn't really start in first and go 90 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: one two three four one two three. You're sure about that, 91 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty sure. I guess. I I guess. I 92 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: guess what I need to do is uh, because it 93 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: does have attack. And I really that because it's it's 94 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: got in fact, it's got a firm shift. And you 95 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: might say, Jesus that two firm. Well, and that's my 96 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: pot because right I I get that, Paul, And that's 97 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: my point that it's very it's very odd that the 98 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: problem doesn't happen in drive, but it happens when you're 99 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: in manual low and then you know two is okay. 100 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Drive is okay. But when you pull it into first, 101 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: you know it shouldn't have any consequence. I think what 102 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: you're doing, and I think what you're describing as an 103 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: internal transport for some reason, under heavy load, it's staying 104 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: in first either you're going past the shift point. And 105 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: for that matter, I would put it in drive, take 106 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: it for a ride and watch it shift first a second, 107 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: second to third and so on, and look at the 108 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: shift points if you can, if you can record that 109 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: with some very clear objectivity, that you know it goes 110 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: from first to second, it's at at at seventeen miles 111 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: an hour, and it goes from second to third at 112 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: thirty four miles an hour, and you can see the 113 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: engine load and engine speed. If you can duplicate that 114 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: manually shift that, you may find out that you've been 115 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: exceeding the RPM limit and you may be creating a problem, 116 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: albeit one that's just odd. But you know, I don't 117 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: want to start chasing our tail over something that's not real. 118 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: What I'm trying to do is prove is this a 119 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: valid you know? Is it not operating as designed as 120 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: the word is the phrase that comes back to my 121 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: mind if you get my meaning. Um, that's where I 122 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: think this has going. I believe it. I believe it 123 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: is taking off the first when when being automatic. But 124 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I've got to understand what you're saying. 125 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: But I've got to be absolutely certain of that it 126 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: is taking off first when put in drive. Let me 127 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: ask you this, you did you ever fix the E 128 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: g R tube in the back of the heads, wasn't 129 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: the Yeah, yeah, so you thought I forgot about that? 130 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah that was yah. Yeah, I know you've got an 131 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: excellent memory. Um, that would be of course then um 132 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, well of course if you if you dropping 133 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: the trends, then that's the opportunity, right, That's where I 134 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: was going with that. And one last thing on that 135 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: starter issue. You know, obviously make sure all grounds are 136 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: good and clean and tight. Make sure the battery's got 137 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: good reserve. You know, if you've got a clamp on 138 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: amp clamp, it would be nice to look at starter 139 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: draw and make sure it's steady and consistent. And before 140 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: you just swapped the starter, if you pull the starter 141 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: out and decide, hey, it's a bad starter, you may 142 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: want to manually crank the engine, put a socket on 143 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: the front bolt and spin the engine around and make 144 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: sure the flywheel doesn't have any damage to any of 145 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: the teeth. It's not it's not probable, but it is possible, 146 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: and you know, you just want to make certain that 147 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: perhaps it just didn't ship a tooth on the flywheel 148 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: and it consistently stops at that spot. You know that 149 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: the story go those and I've never researched this, but 150 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: I've always heard this over the years, is that a 151 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: V eight engine will stop at one of three places 152 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, of four cylinder, one of four 153 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: spaces at a consistent basis, and so on, by definition 154 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: of design and how it shuts off. I've never actually 155 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: tried that, you know, I've got other things going on 156 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: and to try and prove it, but I understand the 157 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: physics of it. So they say, usually, you know, the 158 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: reason flywheels chip is because it will just consistently be 159 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: the spot where it tries to crank the engine over 160 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: and if it's gonna have a weak spot, it just 161 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: gets repeatedly beat on and eventually it gives way. So 162 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: you know, you may want to crank that flywheel around 163 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: and look to see does that actually have a chip tooth? 164 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. You've probably got a bad starter. 165 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a it's the old Ford style. I 166 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: think it was a part number thirty five sixty two 167 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: and the old rebuilt starter days with a single battery 168 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: cable going to it and the starter solingo. It is 169 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: mounted on the fender wheel. Um, you know, but I 170 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: think that's just something worth checking so on the fender. Yeah, 171 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: so all right, kid, I'll do those things. Call me 172 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: back if you more. I'm here for you and I 173 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys listening and tuning in down down Virginia Way. 174 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: You'd be good. I'm run any of the car doctor. 175 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: We are back right after this. Don't go away, that's right. 176 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: If you call and we're not live, you can leave 177 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: a message and we'll call you back to get you 178 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: on the air with Rod eight five five zero nine 179 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron here he is. Thanks Tom, 180 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: you know down around the bottom of the hour, by 181 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: the way, thanks for sticking with us. Uh this hour 182 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: we're going to be bringing you. Randy's a hor Chak, 183 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: he's the product manager. And Chris Gillespie he's the director 184 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: of category management for the folks over Dorman Dorman Products 185 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: dot com. You know, Dorman has grown tremendously in in 186 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, I think, maybe maybe longer. They've 187 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: been around forever, right Dormant. I think it's been around 188 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: since the thirties, but they've really taken over the category 189 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: and in helping all the d I wires and the 190 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: repair shops right with the with I don't want to 191 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: say odd bowl stuff because they do so much what 192 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: I consider mainstream window regulators and nuts and bolts. But 193 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: now they're into things like exhaust manifolds, and they've been 194 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: into it for a while where they're you know, they've 195 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: come out with a better mouse trap, they really have. 196 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: They come out with a ceramic coded exhaust manifold, which 197 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: lasts longer, it looks better. Uh, it prevents the problems 198 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: that the traditional exhaust manifolds are causing. So you want 199 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: to stick around for that. Uh. They're gonna be joining 200 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: us as we talk about exhaust manifolds and some of 201 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: the other things that the Dorman Dorman products make. So 202 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: we look forward to that down around the bottom of 203 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: the hour. Just in a little bit quick piece of 204 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: a couple of pieces of email. Uh, this one comes 205 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: to us. Came in today as a matter of fact, 206 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: from filling the San Francisco Bay area in northern California. 207 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: Hi Ron, My next d I Y project is a 208 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: change of spark plugs on my sisters two thousand two 209 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: miles to tribute also afford escape. Right, it's a low 210 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: minlet's car sixty thou miles. After I get past the 211 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: challenge of removing the intake from this V six. I'm 212 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: concerned that I'll have a hard time removing the plugs 213 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: as they are original and I've never been touched in 214 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: twenty years. Do you have any tips so I can 215 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: get them out without a problem. Thanks for all you do, Phil, Yeah, 216 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: fail a couple of things. Number One, your best friend 217 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: in this case is gonna be a can of p 218 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: B blaster. Alright, nothing works better than p B if 219 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: you want to when once you get the intake amount 220 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: fold off and I want to talk about that in 221 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: a second, if you pull the I'm trying to remember 222 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: if this has coils or wires going to the coil 223 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: and O two. But regardless, once you get whatever the 224 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: ignition devices out of the head, you know you might 225 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: want to drop you know, you don't have to flood it, 226 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: but you want to drop a little bit of p 227 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: B down the well of those back spark plugs and 228 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: let them soak and you know, maybe come back a 229 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: little bit later and a little bit more and let 230 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: them soak and then you know, put your rench on, 231 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: put your socket on, just give it a little bit 232 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: of a twist to the tight just a bit all right. 233 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: This is where we learn how to be a good mechanic, 234 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: and it's all about touch, where we just want to 235 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: give it a little tweakd tight and then try loosening 236 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: it up and that will break the bond. And if 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: you feel the plug is struggling trying to come out 238 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: of the head, put a little bit more p B 239 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: in there and walk away, and the p B will 240 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: work its way down over time and soak down ask 241 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: the threads and then eventually help loosen the bond of 242 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: whatever has been you know, been going on the past 243 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: twenty years as the steel in the aluminum head has 244 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: sort of fused themselves together. Nothing works better than p 245 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: B in this application. As far as getting the intake 246 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: manifold off, that's not the terrible part of the job. 247 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: It's really not. All right. You've got your traditional bolts 248 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: up top, all right. The going into the plastic intake, 249 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: as I recall, the ugly part is in the back 250 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: and the driver's side rear corner where the E g 251 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: R valve comes in. All right. I usually take if 252 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: I remember right there, eights or tens I think they're 253 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: eights eight millimeter head bolts. Dose will come out all right, 254 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: and then you're faced with what do you do about 255 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: the gas? Get the gas. It will either stick to 256 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: the valve or the intake manifold easy enough to scrape 257 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: off that way, if you can, by some miracle, get 258 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: the e g R tube coming up to the valve loose. 259 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: It's a big I think it's like an inch and 260 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: sixteen hex nut Again. P B blaster will work well 261 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: here where you spray it on the threads, let it soak, Tighten, 262 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: then loosen, let it soak. If you can get that 263 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: tube off, then you can lift the whole e g 264 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: R off in one piece, still attached to the intake manifold, 265 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: and you won't have to deal with the gasket that's 266 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna be there. It's a that's a very soft um 267 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: silver gasket that's sort of it just sort of self 268 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: destructs upon disassembly, or it stays in one piece. It's 269 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: never halfway my experience has been, so just be aware. 270 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: If you're can avoid having to deal with it, that's great. Last, 271 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: the back of the intake manifold is likely going to 272 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: have a couple of vacuum lines going to it. Something 273 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be gonna be there for um e g 274 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: R control will be there, the ported vacuum line is 275 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: going to be green, the the manifold vacuum line will 276 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: be read. And then you're also gonna have a big, 277 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: giant or probably half inch in diameter vacuum nipple that 278 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: comes off the passenger side of the intake manifold that 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: leads out to all the other vacuum controls on the engine. 280 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: Make sure you get that that's in the back corner. 281 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's a little hard to say. Once you 282 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: clear those things out of the back, then the manifold 283 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: usually lifts off of cour is. You gotta disassemble the 284 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: throttle area in the air and take duct and all that. 285 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: But all that's pretty clear cut. That shouldn't give you 286 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: the issue. All in all, Um, it's not common for 287 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: these plugs to stick in the head. The PB is 288 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: your insurance policy. If anything's gonna get it loose, they will. 289 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: So just take some time and uh you know, put 290 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: on a couple of podcasts of the Car Doctor and 291 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: uh you know, take a couple of hours and just 292 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: relax in the shop on a Saturday afternoon and do that. 293 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: That will work it for you and make it happen 294 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: another email, Hey, Ron, recently you were talking about parts. 295 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: This came into us just last night too, from Robert. 296 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Parts you don't necessarily match the manufacturer's name on the box. 297 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: I recently bought an A C Delco water pump for 298 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: a small block Chevy with power steering. I matched it up, 299 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: making sure all the bolt holes where I needed them 300 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: before the point of no return, painting at Orange. As 301 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: I wiped it down, I noticed there were any part 302 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: numbers or even a GM stamping. I'm telling you, I'm 303 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: seeing this. It's it's like they're just putting something different 304 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: in the box. It's not it's not what we're used 305 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: to seeing. The article. His email goes on to say, well, well, 306 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: I painted it and I started changing it over, and 307 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: everything was good until I got to the top alternator 308 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: brack at the threaded boss on the top of the 309 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: pump was five as of an inch back too far, 310 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: leaving a gap. I've seen this, Robert. They actually the 311 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: better parts or the better water pump parts replacement people 312 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: will give you a space or to bring that out, 313 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: because that was a change that got made. Oh back 314 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: in the late sixties, early seventies, and I remember exactly 315 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: where it happened. But yes, this is not uncommon, and 316 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: the snack of washers won't cut it, as you point 317 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: out in your email, and it does make it kind 318 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: of ugly. Um, so yeah, not unusual. And I see 319 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: here you said that you've you've reached into your parts 320 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: of your your box of extra stuff and you found 321 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: it in there. And your question to me is, if 322 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: you deal with better off parts in your shop, how 323 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: much time must you lose in a day making stuff work? 324 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: Some days more than others. And you know one of 325 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: the steadfast rules in the shop. Listen, if I was 326 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: hiring you as a mechanic, Robert or anybody else, there's 327 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: a couple of Ron's rules that we live and go by, 328 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: all right. Number one, you bring a car into the shop, 329 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: you make sure the keys aren't left in the car. 330 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: We used to put windows down, but then we ran 331 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: into problems where if it was a first time customer, 332 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: we don't oh the customer's car. We put the window down, 333 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: the window falls into the door, and then it's our 334 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: problem to fix. If it's a regular customers, somebody that 335 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: knows what we're about, they're more than willing to list. Hey, 336 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: we put your window down and it broke. And the 337 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: response is always, hey, would you mind fixing that too? 338 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: And we will. But when we're bringing in a first 339 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: time customer, we don't know the customer. The keys don't 340 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: get left in the car because the door is auto locked. 341 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: That's a problem. The keys come out and they go 342 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: either in the ignition door lock or they go on 343 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the roof. That's Ron's rule number one. Ron's rule number two. 344 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: When you're doing a job, if all the parts are there. 345 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: Number one, make sure all the parts are there. Walk 346 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: over to the parts shelf. All right. We're not one 347 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: of those shops where things get left all over the place. 348 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: The parts drivers know there's a very specific area of 349 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: the shop. They walk in. First door on the left, 350 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: first shelf on the left. Parts from this vendor go here, 351 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: parts from that vendor go there, and so on. Match 352 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: your parts. Make sure you have all your parts. Most 353 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: important rule number three take the parts out of the box. 354 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Just because the parts there doesn't mean it's any good 355 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: or undamaged, or that it's gonna work. So those are 356 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: the rules we live by. Yeah, some days we lose 357 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: too much time. Some days things go along like ice 358 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: cream and They're just great, so I appreciate the letter. Hey, 359 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: coming up next, Randy is a hard chat. Chris Gillespie Dorman, 360 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about exhaust mouthfold. Don't go away, come 361 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: back right after this. We'll be here. I'm running in 362 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Welcome back room in the car doctor. Here. 363 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, if your vehicle has one of the two things, 364 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: one of these two things, or maybe both a check 365 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: engine light and a ticking noise, then I've got a 366 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: segment that you want to pay attention to it because 367 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: there's some man is for you right here. And we're 368 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: gonna be joined this portion of the hour by Randy's Horchek. 369 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: He's the product manager over at Dorman Products, and Chris Gillespie, 370 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: he is the category manager. We're here today talk about 371 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: exhaust manifolds, and we're gonna talk to both of them 372 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, hopefully one after the other. Though, guys, 373 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the show, Thanks for taking the time today, 374 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for having us. UM. You know, let's go to 375 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Randy first. Randy, let's talk about UM exhaust manifolds, right, 376 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: because that tick that the listener might be hearing, that 377 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: tick tick tick tick tick when the engine is cold 378 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: and then you know, it seems to go away. Maybe 379 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: when it warms up, maybe it doesn't. Um, that could 380 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: be an exhaust manifold. And you know why did that 381 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: exhaust manifold failed? Talk about that, right, there's a there's 382 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: a few reasons why an exhaust manifold could sail. They're 383 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: pretty simple, right, there's they're basically a funnel for exhaustcasts 384 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: out into the exhaust system. Um. That ticking that you're 385 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: hearing is probably because it's starting to rust and corrodes, 386 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: which leads to a bit of weakness and they could 387 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: crack or they can warm over time. Things like a 388 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: turbo mounted on it could cause stress to it. You know, 389 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: that turbo is heavy and if it's not supported other 390 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: than that exhaust manifold, that could also lead to a crack. UM. 391 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: And if your vehicle isn't tuned correctly, it's not necessarily 392 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: going to lead to a ticking. It could because it 393 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: could be running too hot. Um, but if it's not 394 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: tune correctly, it could. It could cause a manical converter 395 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: to sail, you know, and finally, age over time that 396 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: rust and that corrosion and heavy use UH can fatigue 397 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: the material it will lead to that that exhaust sound, 398 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: that ticking, and and that ticking can ultimately lead to 399 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: some bigger issues. Is there is there maintenance randy that 400 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: will promote or affect exhaust manifold life? Absolutely, Um, there's 401 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: no maintenance on the manifold itself. There's no moving parts, right. So, 402 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: but things like if your car is running too hot 403 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: or your truck is running too hot. I've seen cast 404 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: iron manifolds come back to loss that are cracked. But 405 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: at that crack, they're they're a blue color, and that 406 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: blue color it means that that port is running too hot, 407 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: and so it's heating up that exhaust manifold differently in 408 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: different spots, and that's causing stress the materials, which will 409 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: lead to the cracking or even a warping. Um. You know, 410 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: if your car is running leads to lean it, it's 411 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna burn out your catalysts, and a catalytic converger's gonna 412 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: cause a pay zero four twenty or the four thirty codes. Um. 413 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: If it's running rich, it's gonna actually coat back converger 414 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: so it doesn't operate properly. You know, And even if 415 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you're burning oil if you if you haven't maintained that 416 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: vehicle correctly, and you start burning oil, that's gonna coast 417 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: the converger, and you're gonna get codes in the and 418 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: they're going to be replacing that converter and the exhaust manifold. 419 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: But it's not really the failure of the exhaust menifold. 420 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: It's actually your car is not running properly, right because 421 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: the engine is burning oil, and that's that's having an effect. 422 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: And and let me just add this to it um 423 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: so that everybody understands. But when we talk about exhaust manifolds, 424 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: there are exhaust manifolds where it's the exhaust manifold and 425 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: the catalytic converter as an assembly. Correct, that's correct. Yeah, 426 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: they started out with, you know, just the regular exhaust 427 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: manifold and the catalytic converter is further downstream. So so 428 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: we started moving them closer and bolting them to the 429 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: exhaust menafold because they actually worked better. A cataly converter 430 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: works better when it's bolted closer and heats up faster, 431 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: right because heat efficiency creates the catalytic reaction. Makes sense, 432 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: So now and then they started to weld them. They 433 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: actually weld them to the manifold, which we call the 434 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: manifold bird. Right, right, So then let's turn to Chris 435 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: if we can for a minute. Chris, are their vehicles 436 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: or their particular vehicles that are more common to fail 437 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: and have manifold converter issues. Um as Randy mentioned these parts, 438 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: they're facing extreme heat and continuous stresses inside that engine 439 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: for it, and they can and will fail eventually, sometimes 440 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: sooner than others. You know, not to pick on every 441 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: technician's favorite model, but people have stalled more than their 442 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: fair share of the Doorman fifty four on Chevy cruises 443 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: that at eleven to Chevy cruise model seemed to take. 444 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: You know, is the butt of the jokes, but it 445 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: is its in theory, is a well built engine, but 446 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: it's just, you know, as they were developing it, they 447 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: just had a lot of shortcoming. So that one is 448 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: one that sees a lot. It's actually our number two 449 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: seller in this category. Our biggest seller is actually fits 450 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: over one million hun day and key applications such as 451 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: the accent, the rio, the soul of the blah through 452 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: a tiny compact little uh exhaust system is a part 453 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: number for that one and It's just one of those 454 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: things that it is. It sells thousands and thousands each 455 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: year just because of the design and just how it's 456 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: how it's run. It's a tight compact, little little areas 457 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: extreme heat and high stresses. So not to worry, though 458 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: we have you know, sorry any mean to cut you ahead. 459 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say with over you know, five hues 460 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: and growing Randy's and Randy and the team have been 461 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: working hard. We have coverage for almost eight percent of 462 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: the vehicles on the road today. And you know, I remember, 463 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: I think, correct me if I'm wrong, But wasn't it 464 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: Board trucks was one of the first ones you started 465 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: doing way back when. If it was for a GM truck, 466 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember what because they were so common to fail. 467 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: And that's that's where I was thinking about the tick 468 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: tick and the check engine light, because that exhaust manifold 469 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: leak eventually became an O two center or and air 470 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: fuel mixture fault code and it turned on the check 471 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: engine light, and then you had even bigger problems to 472 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: deal with. Uh. The four five fours are notorious for failing, right, 473 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: and you you make a manifold for that as well. 474 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: Correct we do. We actually we actually have four manifolds 475 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: for the for the four five point four leaders. But 476 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: you guys do something different. Maybe I don't know if 477 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: this is a Randy question or Chris question, but you 478 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: know Dorman does well. You you know the question would 479 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: become as anything different than the OI. But you guys 480 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: do you guys look at the failures and figure out 481 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: how to make it better? Right listen, Ron, Randy is 482 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: our expert on this stuff. He lives and breathe exhausted. 483 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let him feel this one. I'll give him 484 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: the hard questions and I'll keep taking the easy ones. 485 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Randy, Europe and I'm not so Yeah. We 486 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: do what we call an OI fix, which is basically 487 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: a repair solution that is designed to deliver a better 488 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: repair that you can get from the OE. So for 489 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: exhaust manifolds, you know, every manifold that we looked to develop, 490 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: we have a team of engineers and we sit down 491 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: with them and we look at them and we that 492 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: feld samples and we try and determine what's wrong with 493 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: it and how we can possibly think. So the one 494 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: one example is our six seven four nine, which is 495 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: for a straight six four point two leader trailblazer. Between 496 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: the two center ports, there's a solid plange where it 497 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: bolts up to the head um from the oe. So 498 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: we determined that it actually flexes there and it torques there, 499 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: and and when it does, when it's not allowed to 500 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: flex or to work, it causes some stress points. So 501 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: what we've done, it's just a simple thing. We just 502 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: cut a slice down the middle of that um flans 503 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: and it allows it to have a little bit of movement. 504 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: It's so performed exactly the same, but it allows it 505 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: to move away. We also added a little bit material 506 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: between the two ports, just to add a little bit 507 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: more strength um. And one of our most common and 508 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: easiest upgrades is a material change from gray iron to 509 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: is called ductor iron. So a lot of the oes 510 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: are gray iron and it's grizzle. A ductor iron allows 511 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: it to flex a little bit more, and it's a 512 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: little bit stronger and handles it a little bit more. 513 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Randy, hold that thought right there, 514 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: because that's that's an interesting thing. I don't want to 515 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: rush over that. Let's pull over, take a pause, and 516 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll continue this conversation. If you're 517 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: just tuning in, you're listening to Ronaldining in the car 518 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: Docer with Randy's Horcheck and Chris Gillespie, both from Dorman Products, 519 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: and we'll be back to talk to them right after this. 520 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Don't go away. 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We were he was talking or explaining 540 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: to us about the different types of metals and exhaust manifold. Randy, 541 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: you want to hit the highlights again and keep it 542 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: going forward. Sure. We we have changed our material UM 543 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: from gray iron to ductor iron. If the OE comes 544 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: out with gray iron, we automatically up tograde to ductor liron, 545 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: just because it's a better material. It's a stronger material 546 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: and it handles heat better. UM. I was also going 547 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: to mention that we just released eight ceramic coded us. 548 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: Now they're not performance parts, we're not including them as 549 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: performance parts, and they're actually for those forward trucks that 550 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, UM, the high use trucks. So 551 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: the idea of adding this coding, it distributes the heat 552 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: better throughout the manifold and eliminates those hot spots. But 553 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: also the coding helps protect it from that rust and corrosion. 554 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: And you know, our engineers are so good. We even 555 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: have ten exhaust manifold patents. Wow. But it's not just 556 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: about the manifold. Right. If somebody is going out this say, 557 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: afternoon to buy an exhaust manifold, there's other things they're 558 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: going to be looking for. Christ maybe i'll throw that 559 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: to you where you want to talk a little bit 560 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: about the hardware or what they might need an addition, 561 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: or do they Well, I love talking to you, Rono. 562 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: It's given me the easy questions and it's appreciated. Um. 563 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: As many of us know, it's all too well. There's 564 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: nothing worse than beginning any job at an exhaust manifold. 565 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Changeover is nothing to be excluded from that list of things. 566 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: And you get out there, you're ready to start. You 567 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: got you know, you got the exhaust manifold and hand 568 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: you're cranking the other one off and then you realize 569 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't have the parts to get this done right, 570 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: and then you've got to go back to the store. Meanwhile, 571 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: you're thinking about climbing back into that engine by getting 572 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: back to it. But daylight slipping away, you know, the 573 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: days almost over. There's nothing worse than that kind of feeling. 574 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: But form and exhaust manifold to come with all the 575 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: necessary gap. It's the end to come with the essential 576 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: hardware that actually does the hook up to the downpipe. 577 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: We include beeed materials in our in all of our 578 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: manifolds because they're essential to really get that job done 579 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: right now. Because the hardware to the head is often 580 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: reusable or can be very specific for different vehicles and layouts, 581 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: we don't include the top part of that head hardware, 582 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: but never fear. Dormant also offers those as kids that 583 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: you can buy as well. So as you're surveying that 584 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: engine base you're about to begin the project and have 585 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: a look down and like those are two rusted, I'm 586 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and grab manifold head kit as well. 587 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: That'll get you going. Um. The good news is that 588 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: when you're doing this you may not need it, but 589 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: that insurance that I can get the job done, insurance 590 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: that you have with that purchase, in addition to that 591 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: Dormant manifold that has everything that's priceless, that's what we need. 592 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: And it's actually what's kind of really nice about it is, UM, 593 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: I was listening to your show a couple of weeks back, 594 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: and I heard you're talking about that fusion and uh, 595 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: you said that the hardware was so rusted and was 596 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: right in that kit that that's that hardware you would need. 597 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: You said, yours was so indistinguishable. But if you when 598 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: you bought that Dorman manifold, it came with that hardware 599 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: to go ahead and get that done. So that's what 600 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: that's what what what what we're trying to offer here. 601 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: So if someone's going to the parts store, besides the manifold, 602 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: they want to ask for a manifold head kit, did 603 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I hear that correctly? Yes, okay, And that's that's that's 604 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: that's the bolts, the hardware, the things that go with that. Well, 605 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: i'll tell you what you guys should go ahead and Ron, 606 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. On our website, um, it's listed as a 607 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: related part down at the bottom right after the application. 608 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: And I was going to ask that all of this 609 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: information is on the web. Sorry, it's Dormant Products dot Com. 610 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: They can go there and look up perhaps build a 611 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: little shopping list before they go to the parts store, 612 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: and then they've got it in hand and I need this, 613 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: I need this, and I need this, and then they 614 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: don't have to go back three and four times. Yeah, right, 615 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: it's all there that the other possible repair solutions that 616 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: they want to really get into it. You got your 617 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: make model, you've got keyword and if you have a 618 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: NOI number or competitive parts you're looking for, we can 619 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: help you across that too. Cool. You know, I was 620 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna say where can the listeners go get more information? 621 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: But I think we just did that. That's Dorman Products 622 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: dot Com and I know you guys have great customer 623 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: service and support there, so the listeners can take advantage 624 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: of that as well. Gentlemen, you've just made it so 625 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: easy to understand exhaust mantifolds in the changing technology for everybody. 626 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for taking the time and 627 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: we looked, uh, we look forward to seeing you guys again. 628 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: You guys be well. Thank you, You're very welcome. Take 629 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: good care. I'm on anating of the Car Doctor. We 630 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: are back right after this. Don't go away. Just take 631 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: welcome back Lanta the Car Doctor. Once again. Thank you 632 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: to Rends, the hor Check and Chris coal S peopleth 633 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: from Dorman Dormant Products dot Com. We appreciate them taking 634 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: the time out of their busy weekend and to talk 635 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: to us about you know, cars, cars and parts of 636 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: things to make our lives Easier. Hey. Coming up next 637 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: week here on the Car Doctor, Franklin Gage is gonna 638 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: be coming back. We've talked to Franklin before. He is 639 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: the immediate past president of the v c c A, 640 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the Vintage Chevrolet Club of America. Uh, Franklin's gonna come 641 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: by and just have a We're gonna have a free 642 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: and easy conversation, just talking about well Chevrolets and the 643 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: hobby and uh, you know some of the fall cruising 644 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: and events that the v c c A is putting 645 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: on more information. I believe it's v c c A 646 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: dot org and they're coming up. They're gonna have an 647 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: appearance coming up in Carlisle and then Hershey, Pennsylvania. If 648 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: you're you don't want to get out to some of 649 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: the car shows and do some fall cruising. So we're 650 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: talking to Franklin next weekend. We're gonna be doing that, 651 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: and I just want to point that out to you. 652 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: Coming up from Jasper UM Jasper Transmissions, you know we're 653 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: we're a Jazzper dealer at the shop. We sell jazz 654 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: ber engines and transmissions and UM their newsletter very interesting. 655 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Jasper now offers or has been. I guess they don't 656 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: say when it started, but they've got a re manufacturer 657 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: GM five point three Leader Active fuel Management the lead engine. 658 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: What that means is Jasper has taken the problematic active 659 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: fuel management the five point three Leader GM engine that 660 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: you know disabled cylinders, will disabled select cylinders at select 661 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: times to help get better fuel economy and um, you 662 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: know make the engine, uh you know achieve mild per 663 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: gallon requirements by e p A standards and so forth. Well, 664 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: it was a problem, let's face it, let's be honest, 665 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: and Jazzper has now created an a FM delete package, UM, 666 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: an engine and package that goes if you want to 667 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: do a replacement and get rid of that a FM 668 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: should you have to replace the engine? And that from 669 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: the folks over at Jeff but I'm sure there are 670 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: more information at Jasper Engines dot com. So, UM, I 671 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: think that's forward thinking. I think to recognize a problem 672 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: and deal with it is certainly a great way to 673 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: do it. And if just a last note, if you're 674 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: if you're you know, looking around for that holiday gift already, UM, 675 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: great book Corvette seventy years, the one and Only by 676 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: Richard Prince. UM, I've got a copy of it on 677 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: my desk in front of me, some great color pictures 678 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: talking about Corvette, the one and Only, and you can 679 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: find that available. I'm sure that I'll be up on 680 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Amazon dot Com at some point. We're gonna talk about 681 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: it again in the future, but I just wanted to 682 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: get your ears ringing and just remind you about it. 683 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: So until the next time I'm running any in the car, doctor, 684 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: I thank you for taking the time to stop by 685 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: and be here with me. And once again, as always, 686 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See it