1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast, the worst podcast by dv 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: o A of all time or Your Money Back. Welcome 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: to another edition Around the NFL. My name is Dan 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: hansis joined in a virtual room filled with some hero 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: It's Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, look a little A t 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: N long weekend boys, you know, took Monday's show up 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: with some logistical issues. We had a tackle and we 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: figured it was a good time to push things back 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Also gives uh, Mark another data process. 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: What's been a wild few days on the NFL grid. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, we talked about the huge 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: numbers boys that the A t N broadcast does, and 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: that will be back on Friday, but legitimately our podcast 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: downloads for the Deshaun Watson episode on Friday, We're massive, 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: according to Ricky Hollywood, and I think a part of 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: that goes back to directly you, Mr Sessler, and people 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: wanting to know how Mark feels right now. So I'm 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: just curious, because you're as passionate as a fan as 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: I've ever known, how you're feeling now that seventy two 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: or so hours have passed since the biggest trade in 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: NFL history since the herschel Walker deal. Read into that 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: however you want, Um, I would just I would say 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: waves of immense apathy towards that team, and apathy works. 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: It's i don't know, typically just sort of a discount 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: drowning in the waves of apathy. I can't stop not caring. 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm at the stage where I'm getting a lot of um, 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: hateful tweets from certain Browns fans, and I you know what, great, Um, 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I nothing really has changed, to be honest, I just again, 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I feel kind of apathy. I'm not really being tugged 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: in one direction or another, and nor does it revolve 31 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: around me, So it's not about us. But I do 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: feel for you, Mark, um I you don't want to 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: be the center of the attention of this podcast for 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: this reason. And I can just imagine after coming out 35 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: of the weekend, there had to have been a thought 36 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: of like, oh wait, we gotta just like talk about 37 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: this every show for the rest of my life, three 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: times a week. It's it's not like it's it's not 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: like I will put that to the side, and that 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: we we covered that last week. It's over. No, it's 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: gonna be hanging out there for years. So and and 42 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: I was, I was honestly thinking about it because I 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: care for you, Mark and consider you a really good friend. 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Like that, it such a seismic situation that has these repercussions. 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: And then I was thinking about a little deeper, and 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: I know You're Browns fandom obviously goes back to the eighties, 47 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: and like when you think about everything connected to Watson 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: and what he represents and what it means for the 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: future of the Browns, um good and bad, and what 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: it means to be a fan of the Browns now, 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: like the only other thing that I could even connect to, like, 52 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: what's something similar, really similarly massive that would just change 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: the way you look at things. It's when the Browns, 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, lost there, when Cleveland lost the Browns, And 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: that was another like major shot to the stomach for 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: totally different reasons, obviously, And now you you're living through 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: both these things with a break of however long it's 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: been twenty five years or so. So Mark, my my 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: thoughts are with you, you know that. Thank you. I 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: think that's a great point because I think that that 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: um moment in time forced Browns fans to decide what 62 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: to do, what direction they were going to go in. 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Like there was a concept do you become a Ravens fan? 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Do you do? You wait and see if they get 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: another team, and then when they do, uh, hang on 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: for the one of the worst rides of your life. 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: But like there was there seemed to be nothing but civic, total, 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: unified support for the idea of another Brown's team back then. 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: This one is different because I think it's it's it 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: causes a mazor, a major chasm in the fan base, 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: and like, uh, there is high emotion on both sides. 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: The idea of dropping it on the Friday kind of 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: work because by Monday, once these the NFL shows started, 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: it's like a lot has happened since you know what 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Like by the time they even got to 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: the Monday night Total Access or you know, it's like 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: that's it's not even a story anymore. Deshaun Watson. It's 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: like it's in the C block because so much has 79 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: happened this offseason and this week. That's why they call 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: it the Friday news dump. All right, So we have 81 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: so much news to get to since we last left 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: you on Friday. Uh, so much more has gone down 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: as expected, the the Watson move, so huge in terms 84 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: of the entire NFL that it had a domino effect 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: and multiple quarterbacks on the move in the wake of 86 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: that decision of the Browns to trade for the problematic 87 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: former Texans star. I want to share something before we 88 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: get to all the news, and this is via Tom 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Pella Sero, who was on Good Morning Football this morning. 90 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: I saw the clip and I like, did and now 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal it um And I could have stole 92 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: it without crediting anybody, which happens to us all the time, 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: but I chose to. So I just want to make 94 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: that clear. You're a journalist, you have a high integrity. 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: In the past three weeks, these are just the trades 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: that have gone down in the NFL. All right, here 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: we go March eight, Russell Wilson to the Broncos, Carson 98 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: Wentz to the Commanders, Khalil Mack to the Chargers, Amari 99 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: Cooper to the Browns, Janik and go Way to the Cults, 100 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: Davante Adams to the Raiders, Deshaun Watson to the Browns. 101 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm legitimately Matt Ryan to the Cults. NFL research says 102 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: that traded players combined for thirty three Pro Bowl selections, 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: somehow says the most. Someone actually researched that I'm highly 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: annoyed by all of this because I have been assigned 105 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: a piece that is due tomorrow. Um, grading every trade. 106 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: And you've been me. You know, maybe you've got two 107 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: or three of these to unpack and then you're out. 108 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: You're good. But there's like eighty five things that happened. 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: It's like you just just start whipping me in the face. 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean some might call it a trade tsunami, you know, 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: trade tsunami for back for more mark. Can we get 112 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: a little, uh, a little sneak preview. I mean, you 113 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: are divorced from the Browns right now. Um, what would 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: be the Browns grade for that trade? Well, I've not 115 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: even thought about the article yet, but um, I would 116 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I would say that from a football angle, you'd have 117 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: to they went for it. In general, you like the idea, 118 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: but you get the grade however you want. I can 119 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: grade it however I want, and I might be very 120 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: stern in my in my grading. And also there's more 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: to come because you've got Baker Mayfield twisting in the 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: wind now, and he is twisting because all these moves 123 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: are happening. And now I mean, is it's Seattle or 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: bust for Baker? I don't know, Like where else does 125 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: he I get Carolina? Maybe? I don't know. We'll see 126 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy g is still out there because Kyler Murray on 127 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: the market. Potentially, we don't know right now. Christian McCaffrey, 128 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: remember that was floated around combined time. Is that something 129 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: I could still be in place? So things are a 130 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: lot different now with this trade tsunami than things used 131 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: to be. Even when we started this podcast, it wasn't 132 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: like this. I mean, teams are just much more bold, 133 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: much more more bold than they used to be. There's 134 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: no way around it. That's where Greg, because he's so 135 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: good at just drilling into the heart of the things, 136 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: had one more, one more nug and then I was 137 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: spitting to the news. I would probably just point us 138 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: back to our time in Indianapolis, when the best and 139 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: the brightest reporters in the business and all the gms 140 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: and coaches were all in the same city, and the 141 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: thing that was said by most people more than anything 142 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: all week was well, it looks like there's not gonna 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: be many trades and not many quarterbacks, not much quarterback movement. 144 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: That was. That was just like a lot of hot 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: air looks. Don't subtweet Mark Sessler's I was absolutely saying that, 146 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: So maybe I was if anything wished I said everyone 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: said that. That was everyone was saying that all week there, 148 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: So nobody knows anything. All right, let us get to 149 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: all the news whenever we need a brilliant insight. He's 150 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: available at the drop of a hat. Let's give a 151 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: much deserved shout out to John Clayton, longtime NFL reporter 152 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: radio host, died at on Friday after a brief illness. 153 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: The professor he was known as. If you and if 154 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: you follow the NFL and you know, have an active 155 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Twitter feed, you saw just the waves of appreciation for Clayton, 156 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: who was a dogged reporter and an all around good 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: guy from really everyone. And I don't I didn't know 158 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: the man personally, so I can't speak to that, but 159 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: I will say that as a football med uh kid 160 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: who kind of came of age as a sports fan 161 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: and was a teenager throughout the nineties, like he was 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: like the NFL reporter, and they put him on every 163 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: show in ESPN and my my whole like television schedule 164 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: evolved around Sports Center and NFL Live and whatever programming 165 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Sunday Countdown and the Chris Berman's Sunday recap show primetime, 166 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: like and Clayton was so prominent. So it's uh sad 167 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: to see, uh John Clayton passed away at the age 168 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: of sixty seven. Yeah, great reporter. I did his radio 169 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: show a bunch like A always just remember him with 170 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: his wife who who had MS, and how much he 171 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: loved her and would would talk about her and always 172 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: was like really nice to young reporters and helping them out. 173 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Whenever there's someone like that, where half the stories and 174 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: anecdotes are things that happened in the shadows where he 175 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: went and helped someone or gave someone advice or went 176 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: out of their way, out of his way to like 177 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: do something generous for them and no one else knew 178 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: about it. Like that's kind of who John Clayton appears 179 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: to have been to so many different people. I mean, 180 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: met him twice, and I thought he was just like 181 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: the nicest guy in like, you know, it wasn't fake, 182 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: it was real. Rest in the peace, John Clayton. All right, 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: let's get into the news. We'll start with this Matt 184 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Ryan on the move and the Falcons, of course, we're 185 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: a quote unquote finalist for Deshaun Watson, and they were 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: thirsty as hell to get Watson. And one thing that 187 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: I think got a little bit overshadowed was how what's 188 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: the word, I mean, how blatant the Falcons were hunting 189 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: for Watson when you had this guy in your building 190 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: who has been nothing but a consummate pro for fifteen 191 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: years and owns every passing record and one an MVP 192 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: and nearly took you to a Super Bowl championship. Uh, 193 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: and you're basically disrespecting him. Uh. To put it boldly here, 194 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: um by chasing after Watson. So the writing was on 195 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: the wall. And very quickly after Watson goes to the Browns, 196 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: the Colts acquire Matt Ryan for the Falcons in exchange 197 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: for third round pick uh next month. So here we are, 198 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Greg Ryan is on the move. This is something I 199 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: was kind of pounding the table for for a couple 200 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: of months because it just never made sense to me, 201 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: given where the Falcons were, given the um, the need 202 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks for so many teams that were looking to 203 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: take the next step, that Ryan wouldn't be in the 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: mix because his cap charge was hard. And it goes 205 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: to show you once again, these teams have a way 206 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: to make things work, even if it means the Falcons 207 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: eating a ton of dead space right now. Yeah, I 208 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: mean they made it work by having forty million dollars 209 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: on their cap to not have Matt Ryan. Like, I 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: don't think this was the plan. I really don't. I 211 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: think the plan was to go get the Shawn Watson 212 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: ownership push for that. I don't think when they agreed 213 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: to this restructure a few weeks ago necessarily they expected 214 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: this was how it was gonna go down. And then 215 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Arthur blank Coop has made some emotional decisions as as owner, 216 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: including maybe the way they've restructured this contract year after year, 217 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: pushing this pain into the future. Did right by Ryan 218 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: by finding a place for him instead of maybe keeping 219 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: him in Atlanta when that's not what he wanted anymore. 220 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: And I respect that, and I like that as someone 221 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: who likes to watch Matt Ryan play football. But they 222 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: only got here by mismanagement and incompetence and their downgrading 223 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that quarterback and their roster looks terrible and it's like 224 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: you said on Friday, maybe the only thing worse than 225 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: in getting Watson is missing out on him because the 226 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: way this ended is just we use the word Friday shameless, 227 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: like it was a shameless day for the Falcons and 228 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: they didn't get anything out of it other than you know, 229 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: some hastily put together social media clips of like Matt 230 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Ryan's time in Atlanta. Yeah, I mean, I think if 231 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: you're if you're a Falcons fan, the fallout leaves you 232 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: staring at a team that looks completely disorganized. They almost 233 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: easily have the worst roster in the league. And if anything, 234 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: if you're Matt Ryan, and I like it for him 235 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we spent all the last offseason talking 236 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: about how what a great landing spot it was for 237 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and and the only question was how Carson 238 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Wentz would handle the job. And for Matt Ryan, you're 239 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: in a place where you're getting to get better protection 240 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: than you did last year. He had no weapons around him. 241 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Cordarrel Patterson was their leading rusher. You've now got Jonathan Taylor. 242 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: They can use more help at wide receiver, but they've 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: got money to spend. I think the Colts came out 244 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: of this looking great considering the fact that you know, 245 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for running off the market. We were running out 246 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: of options for the Cults, and they pulled this off 247 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: like it is a win for a team that even 248 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: still has you know, this is a patch for a 249 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: couple of years they were fused basically to find like 250 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback of the future. But this, of all the 251 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: scenarios that could have gone down, I liked this for 252 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Chris Ballard well, the the already iconic Flashpoint 253 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: series started with Carson Wentz, and we had Zach Kiefer 254 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: the athletic on the show, and he did did a 255 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: great job pointing out that once they decided Wentz was 256 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: a steak and they had to get out of this, 257 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: and they did, of course, Sendy went to Washington. Um, 258 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: they really didn't have a clear path to get better 259 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: at the position, and and and yet, and that was 260 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago when it felt like a pipe 261 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: pipe dream or something not realistic that Matt Ryan was 262 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: gonna be on the market. The fact that they do 263 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: end up with Matt Ryan, and I know he's not 264 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: the same guy anymore, but I absolutely love the move 265 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: for the Colts because I think, and Greg, you might disagree, 266 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: but I think Ryan, if you put him in a 267 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: better situation, you give him blocking, which is so key, uh, 268 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: and give he needs some more weapons, perhaps um to 269 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: make this work. But he has Jonathan Taylor. I think 270 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: he can give be a better version of what Philip 271 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Rivers was two years ago. Now. Is that enough to 272 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: get the Colts over the hump in the loaded a 273 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: f C. Probably not, but I at least give them 274 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: a puncher's chance for some things to coalesce here. Whereas 275 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: any other scenario outside of Deshaun Watson joining the team, 276 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: it felt like they were just gonna be stuck in 277 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: Purgy Tory for a year at least. I totally agree. 278 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: I think when he played well last year, he played 279 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: really well. We saw that that game against the Jets 280 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: where actually they had a lot of pass rush on him, 281 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: and he moves so well in the pocket. He's so accurate. 282 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: He's not afraid to put the ball in tight quarters. 283 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: He's one of the most accurate quarterbacks. I think the 284 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: comparison to the Rivers is apt. He's a few years 285 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: younger than Rivers was when he got to Indianapolis, and 286 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: I think he probably makes better decisions. I don't think 287 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: the rosters quite as good. But as Mark mentioned, they 288 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: have cap space still, they have Michael Pittman, and they 289 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: need help beyond that at wide receiver. They don't have 290 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: a left tackle right now. I think they're a little 291 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: short at cornerback. But Ballard is shown he's resourceful. He's 292 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: still got roomed to spend. That's the part of this 293 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: deal that I that I love for the Colts is 294 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: he's only due Matt Ryan fifty three million over the 295 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: next two years. That's like a bargain at that quarterback rates. 296 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: That's what they're paying him. So that's twenty seven a year, 297 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: a little under that. That's that's less than Carson Wentz. 298 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, you gave up less to get him. You 299 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: only gave up one third round pick, so that that's 300 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: one of the lowest veteran quarterback salaries actually in the league. 301 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: That the Falcons are eating all that dead cap and 302 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: that restructure and roster bonus, so that part of it 303 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: worked out really well. I do think his arm strength 304 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: has diminished. He was never fleet of foot, and he's 305 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: definitely lost some athleticism. But I think he in theory, 306 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: could be a little like Tom Brady where he can 307 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: still move well enough in the pocket to to get 308 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: it done. And and Frank Reich, I think is gonna 309 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: love this guy and the right. I'm excited though, to 310 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: watch the Colts in a way that I wouldn't have 311 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: been if they just got like whatever Mitchell Robiskie or 312 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: something that wasn't going to be a possibility to go 313 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: further in the playoffs. I mean they had they you know, 314 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: they were prepared to send a plane to pick up 315 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston for a visit. I liked the spending in 316 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. I also like, if you're Matt Ryan, I 317 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: mean had a huge difference. I don't think, but I 318 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: mean I think Matt Ryan is a big difference over 319 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. I do personally, but like you're in the 320 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: a f C South, where you've got you know you. 321 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't trust the Cults as a super Bowl contender, 322 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: but I trust them as a ten win team that 323 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: could win that division because it's a very manageable division. 324 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: So it's not it's it's a good situation for Matt Ryan. 325 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: So not only is Matt Ryan far more decorated than 326 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: Winston older obviously Winston if we're gonna talk about Deshaun 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Watson is not squeaky clean either, so teams are taking 328 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: on his past with any decision to bring him into 329 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: your building. And speaking of options that, uh, the Colts 330 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: could have ended up the roads they could have gone down. Yeah, 331 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: they could have ended up with Marcus Mariota and said 332 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: it's the Falcons who signed Mariotta, who recently, most recently 333 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: was backing up Derek Carr with the Raiders. Tom Pelliser 334 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: reported that the contract is effectively a one year six 335 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: point seven five million dollar deal twelve million option for three. 336 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: This is what the Falcons mark should be doing here, right, 337 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: because you have a team clearly rebuilding the cap jail 338 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: they're in because of the Ryan deal obviously hamstrings them 339 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: and not going to contend anyway. So get a bridge 340 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: quarterback by like Mariotta, see if Arthur Smith can work 341 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: his magic, and if it doesn't work out, you say 342 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: bye and you focus on the draft and find a 343 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: young passer, right because the team is totally lost, and 344 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean yet, Arthur Smith knows Mariota and there's a 345 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's a relationship there that I think that's 346 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: a big reason why this happened. It's notable to me 347 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: that Atlanta, UM and other teams had the Colts to 348 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: have zero interest in trading for Baker Mayfield. I think 349 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: the contract is part of that, but the player and 350 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: the person seemed to be seen as a much lower 351 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: option than we would have thought of maybe a couple 352 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Mariotta. Look, he came in and didn't 353 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: some nice things for the Raiders in patchwork. Do I 354 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: believe in him in as a as a starter? No, no, 355 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I do not, not, not in this situation where like 356 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: we said, they're gonna try to rebuild that offensive line, 357 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: but it was unplayable last year for Ryan and I 358 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: got some people in my manager, well, why do you 359 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: have him solo in the QB Index if you're saying 360 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: saying he's good, Like his high moments were high and 361 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: it faded hard the second half, especially the last six 362 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: or seven games in Atlanta were tough to watch, and 363 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: he couldn't overcome a brutal situation. It's hard to imagine 364 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota doing that. And Arthur Smith, I think coached 365 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: his ass up by getting them to seven wins. This 366 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: is one of the worst teams in the NFL last year. 367 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: Their number one receiver at the moment, I would say 368 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: is Olamedi Zachius right? Is that? You know Christians Blake 369 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: is maybe number two? I mean, I guess Kyle Pitts is. 370 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: But do you have big time holes throughout the roster 371 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: on defense too? And I like that Mariota gets to 372 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: play football again, and Arthur Smith is the right guy 373 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: to to have by his side because he had his 374 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: best moments with Smith on that time. Remember that Week 375 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: fifteen game against the Dolphins when he went in for 376 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 1: Derek Carr and I think they blew the game at 377 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: the end. I can't remember who blew the game. Somebody 378 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: blew the game in a savage way. Uh Fitzpatrick completed 379 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: that miracle passed with a face mask thing. Yeah anyway, 380 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: but uh Mario Woda. I remember Mark we did the 381 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football I think recap of that, and he 382 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: played his ass off in that game. And I think 383 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: some teams probably look at that table to be like, 384 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if kicked the tires on this guy. Maybe 385 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: there's something some magic in the number two overall pick 386 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: from years ago. Now, I would just look at all 387 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: the other tape too, I got I got, I get that. 388 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: You know that seems to be certain quarterbacks that slip 389 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: into situations like that that up the fascination level. And 390 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: there's always going to be coaches that look at Mariota 391 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: and his skill set and say, I can do more 392 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: than the other team did. I mean, Arthur Smith is 393 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: basically saying I'll do more than I did before with him, 394 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: but I just don't trust him as a starter on 395 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: any level. Like you sell the contracts. When Falcons fans 396 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: are wondering about Baker, for instance, who's definitely the best 397 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: available guy right now, Baker's gonna cost a lot more. 398 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Mariota got got Teddy's contract, you know, and they got 399 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: a second year option because Mariota had no leverage where 400 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: if Mariot actually worked out, they can keep them for 401 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: incredibly cheap next year. So he got Teddy's contract, he 402 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: got Tyrod's contract, he got Mitchell trevi Skis contract, so 403 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: that that was like one level. This year. Winston got 404 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: like double that, and Carson Wentz got double of that, 405 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: which is crazy because to me, it's like all those 406 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: guys are relatively in the same mark. Qte is it that? Uh? 407 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: Greg calls Bridgewater Teddy first name basis I mean Teddy, 408 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: what a great name. You know, there's no other Teddy's. 409 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's come up a couple of times on the show, 410 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: so let's hit on him because he's in the news. 411 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: Once Watson uh spurns the Saints, New Orleans is back 412 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: in the same quagmire. It's like, bring back James? Do 413 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: we give Taysom Hill another chance? Why are we still 414 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: talking about this stuff? They decide to bring back Jamis 415 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: Winston on a two year, twenty eight million dollar contract. 416 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: That deal includes million guaranteed. Greg Winson's coming off an 417 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: a c L tear. I know there's certain numbers that 418 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: back up that he played well before the injury on Halloween. 419 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: I wasn't as impressed. Um, But again, these teams and 420 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: that's why I think part of the reason why what 421 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: Indianapolis managed to pull off, I think is notable. If 422 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: you don't grab Ryan and if you don't buy Baker 423 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: as a guy, that's a nice bounce back, uh target, 424 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: You're you're going back to the well with guys like 425 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: James Winston. Yeah, I think they see Jamis Winston as 426 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: a better player and certainly has the experience in that 427 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: system is and they know him and and they know 428 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: he fits. This is not a rebuilding team, though they're 429 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: They're caught in this spot which is different than Atlanta. 430 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: Atlanta's blowing it up the Saints. The Saints have, you know, 431 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Alvin Camara and Cameron Jordan's and Davenport's 432 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: on his fifth year option, and lattinmore is getting a 433 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: ton of money and Jenkins like this is a veteran 434 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: team like there, they are trying to win. Now, you're right, Dan, 435 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: his numbers were great, like at one point in the 436 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: season he was number one in the league and e 437 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: p a per play he ended up fifth. I didn't 438 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: see that either, but I thought he was okay. He 439 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: was like a mid level quarterback. I don't see a 440 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: huge different between him uh and Matt Ryan necessarily, and 441 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: I think they're excited. And the money they gave him 442 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: showed the tastom experience is well over and that's been 443 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: the reporting there. They're not going to consider him at 444 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: quarterback and they decided to give Jamis more money than 445 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: I thought he needed. Maybe the Panthers were in on 446 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: him because he got twenty one guaranteed. That was significantly 447 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: different than all those other one B bridge quarterbacks. So 448 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: maybe the Panthers were sniffing around or someone was, maybe 449 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, because to give him that much money was 450 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: a declaration, you are definitely our starter this year, and 451 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: we'll see about We'll see about the next year, but 452 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: we'll have to eat some money if if it's not 453 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: next year, I mean it will be. It's Jamis Winston 454 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: in a Saints offense minus Sean Payton. And I don't 455 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: know if there's any bigger winner this offseason than Tom 456 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: Brady and the Bucks because you are looking at his 457 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: Saints team of Falcons team both in flux, disorganized Carolina 458 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: totally disorganized, with no answer at quarterback right now. I mean, 459 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: there's no different though, to be fair, are other than 460 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: Sean Payton? Are they that different? Is the roster that different? 461 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I think that they're the 462 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: most competitive team in that division outside of the Bucks. 463 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: But I think that Sean Payton is one of the 464 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: two or three coaches that probably especially when you look 465 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: at what he did with Teddy Bridgewater, what he did 466 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: with Jamis. I'm giving them two or three more wins 467 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: a year with Sean Payton is coach. It's a tv 468 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: D with who they have now. If the Saints ended 469 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: up getting Watson and assuming the suspension that is to 470 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: come is in a complete season wipe out in two, 471 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: they would have been really scary to pare Watson with 472 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and whoever else and then that defense which 473 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: is still really good. Uh. Instead, yeah, I think they're 474 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: fringe E wild card contender. But you can't say that 475 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: about the Panthers or Falcons. I think Tampa seems like 476 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: a team that is going to walk to eleven or 477 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: twelve wins. But Brady has to stay Brady at some point. 478 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: They have to be a dominant defense. I mean, they 479 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: did shut out Tom Brady. They kept Dennis Allen because 480 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: of the defense, and so that's it's hard to count 481 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: on being like a number one defense, but that's that's 482 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: what they're counting on, and they're county on Dennis Allen 483 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: learning from his time with the Raiders. I have this 484 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: conversation with James Jones in my head um who works 485 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: with us at NFL Network, where like those players hated 486 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen. Basically, I mean he was about. They did 487 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: not like that experience. People change, Greg I'm sure, I'm 488 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: sure they did, but he wasn't. He wasn't ready for 489 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: that experience the first time around. The players, I think 490 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: all but like revolted on Dennis Allen, but they seem 491 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: to like him in New Orleans, it's a little different. 492 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: All Right, let's uh take a break and we'll continue 493 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: to comb through the news. All Right, we're back. We're 494 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: just talking some of the big quarterback moves um before 495 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: we dive back in and get into the nitty gritty 496 00:25:49,240 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: on uh some more qub actions. So Jimmy G. Baker, Mayfield, Panthers, Seahawks, Like, 497 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: is there any sinner? I know there is a scenario, 498 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: but in terms of like, those guys feel like guys 499 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: that should be starting somewhere, and now those seem like 500 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: the only two unless those teams, you know, go with 501 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: a rookie through the draft. Like, is that where those 502 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: two guys are gonna end up one of one or 503 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: the other? Where is there a curveball in here somewhere? Probably? 504 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: I think Seattle is the team that makes sense for 505 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: Baker to me. I think John Lynch got caught bluffing 506 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: or just no one was that interested in Jimmy Garoppol. 507 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm not buying these reports from Pro Football Talk that 508 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: he was telling people he had two seconds in hand 509 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: for Jimmy G and he was waiting for a better 510 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: draft pick. I I just I don't believe he ever 511 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: had those two seconds, And if that was true, what's 512 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: going on here? Because there, you know, I don't know 513 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: if anyone's taken Jimmy G. Period, He's like, he played 514 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: poorly and he's coming off a bump shoulder. So Baker 515 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: to see Hottle or Carolina for that matter, makes a 516 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. I don't know what's going 517 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: to happen with Jimmy G. I don't know necessarily that 518 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: he ends up starting anywhere. I mean, if you're the Browns, 519 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: you're not going to get much for Baker Mayfield at 520 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: all at this point because it is just clear that, 521 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: you know, I I thought more teams would be interested, 522 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: but we're at a sort of a saturation point where 523 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: to dance points, there's not a lot of landing spots. 524 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't imagine Jimmy G being traded to the Seattle 525 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Seahawks inside the same division. Uh. I think Baker is 526 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: the more logical candidate there. It kind of just seems 527 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: like more of a fit for Seattle. But Seattle is 528 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: not running to chase after him either. I think the 529 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: problem with Baker Mayfield is that whoever takes him on, 530 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: you got him for one year, that's fine, but then 531 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: you're stuck with the same decision that Cleveland didn't want 532 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: to deal with, which is what do you do with 533 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: him next? Also, what's the rush right now? Wait till? 534 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: Like if Seattle only wants to give up let's say 535 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: a fourth for him, it's just wait till, wait till 536 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: the draft, like, wait until the second day of the 537 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: draft and send your offer. And you don't really They 538 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: apparently don't really care if they are just going in 539 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: with this Drew Lock geno possible poopoo platter, which seems crazy, 540 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: but they don't seem too worried about it. Yeah. I 541 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: don't think you inherit what the Browns did, because it 542 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: was a little more thorny with Baker because you had 543 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: him as the number one overall pick and he had 544 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: success and all that with with Seattle and really anywhere 545 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: he goes, he has no personal leverage at this point. 546 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: So it's just like he has to play out this 547 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: rookie deal and then if he's good enough, they'll do 548 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: business with him. If he's not, they're going to move on. 549 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of in a he's no longer 550 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: the Golden Child because he's not going to be connected 551 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: to the organization that saw him as the future. You know, well, 552 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: there's a chance he's a backup to I mean, which 553 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: is kind of a stunning departure from where we were 554 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: a year and a couple of months ago, when I 555 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: thought he played as well as almost he was a 556 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: top five quarterback down the stretch their playoff year. I 557 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: know that Baker over Carson Wentz in Washington. Yeah, well, 558 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: why he made a huge mistake for that Carson Wentz move. 559 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: That was that was a time in Washington. Fans are 560 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: are in their feelings right now. I like follow their 561 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: Espionnation site, which they do a great job, and it's 562 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: all been like trying to like explain away like well, 563 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, at the time it made sense and we 564 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: didn't know these guys would be available. That's fine, Uh, 565 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: they blew it because I got a wild card. I 566 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: would much rather have Baker Mayfield at the exact same price, 567 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: much less at a cheaper price like at it. I 568 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: think Baker's contract is an asset. I think the fact 569 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: you're only gonna have to give up a fourth round 570 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: pick for him is great. Like he's I would much 571 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: rather have him than Carson Wentz and Mariota for that matter. 572 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: That was that was like what when we were doing 573 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: flashpoint on Big Baker though people didn't know what was 574 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna unfold, They didn't know available the timing, timing bang memo. 575 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I have a Sessler on this one. I know where 576 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Baker's going. Oh, it's a team that he would fit 577 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: in so well with that city and the perpetual chip 578 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: on its shoulder. And they're all scamps over there. We 579 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: know some of them. They secretly don't love their quarterback, 580 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: but they don't love the raft and they didn't want 581 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: to get involved with the Shaun Watson the Eagles. They 582 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: trade for Baker and then stick him in the picture. 583 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: And then when Jalen disappoints them, Baker rises up and 584 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: it becomes a folk here over there is that crazy crazy, 585 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: but they have kind of the rich man They've got 586 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: like the slightly poorer Man's version of Baker already and 587 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I don't know, right, and it's not It's 588 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: not crazy though, because they went and got Gardner Minshew 589 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: a year ago in the same situation. So if they 590 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: wanted to upgrade, I I kind of think that this 591 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: one other potential landing spot that would be very um juicy, 592 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: which would be Pittsburgh. I just I don't see it. 593 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, why not, Like you want to 594 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: talk about ship on the shoulder and would it work 595 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: out for the Steelers. It probably would work out quite well, 596 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: and that would blow that division up. You know, if 597 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: you were a Browns fan Mark, which you're not anymore, 598 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: but if you were a Browns fan, that would be 599 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: quite spicy as well. Maybe what if I became a 600 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: Steelers fan? How about that? I've heard this theory and 601 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: just hearing Mike Tomlin over the years, and knowing that 602 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin prepared defensive plans to stop Baker for the 603 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: last four years. I just don't think they'd be interested. 604 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: I just don't think, right, I just don't think that 605 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: they would think he's that dude. I think Carolina is 606 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: the is the other spot other in Seattle. That makes 607 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: sense to me. They're just spinning their wheels, They're just 608 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: trying things. They don't have anything. They seem they seem 609 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: like the Baker spot where they'd actually give up a pick, 610 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: not weight around to the draft, beat Seattle to the punch, 611 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: and I think that would make sense for them, I mean, 612 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: compared to what they have. Now, what else are you doing? 613 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: And you have that absurd photo out there of Dan 614 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: and i Um the evening following the first round of 615 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: teams draft. But we're at the cozy doing shots together, 616 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: slapping each other on the back because we both had 617 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: in Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield the aviers, and they'd 618 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: actually been competing for a job where neither one of 619 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: them or possibly even starting material at this point. Uh s. 620 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: I included that tweet in his column this week. I 621 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: I I regret nothing, mark Um. Optimism always lives within me, 622 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: hoping that that guy will be the guy. And now 623 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: there's someone else. My son was running around the playground 624 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: yesterday in his Zach Wilson shirt. My other son running 625 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: around in a Justin Herbert shirt. So there's a lot 626 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: of a lot of heat in the house in the 627 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: a f c UM. But anyway, let's uh hope is 628 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: a good thing. Mark Hope. We'll take you home time 629 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: for news and notes presented by up work where you 630 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: can build the team that will build your business. Learn 631 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: more at upwork dot com. Let's finish out the quarterback 632 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: talk here, all right, So the Browns. You know, we're 633 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: killing the Browns deservedly on Friday UM for their yes, 634 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: shameless pursuit and successful pursuit ultimately of the Shaun Watson. 635 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: And we were checking their Twitter feed and no one 636 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: now ument, no announcement, no announce And finally the team 637 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: announces the deal on Sunday that they have traded for 638 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson uh D and Jimmy Haslum that the co 639 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: owner's husband and wife. They all released statements. I think 640 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski released a statement. I'm not even gonna bother 641 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: reading them because you know what it's all about. It's 642 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: all about the Browns trying to win with the franchise 643 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: quarterback and not any due diligence in any of that BS, 644 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: so I will spare you any of that. UM. And 645 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: they also make a move. They move on from case 646 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Keenum as the backup quarterback. They bring in Jake Brisket. Wow, 647 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: Jacoby Bricett is slice me off a piece of that 648 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: Jake Briskey man, he really moves, He really moves around 649 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: the dial of the NFL trade. They've also trade case 650 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: Keenum to the Bills, so he replaces Mitch Robinski. It's 651 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: all a big game of musical chairs as the backup 652 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: to Josh Allen and Buffalo and finally Greg Matthew Stafford 653 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: gets a big fat extension. That's what happens when you 654 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl. Yeah, I love that for the Rams. 655 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: That just happened so quietly. He sort of fits in 656 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: the middle tier. Now it's like people are trying a 657 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: little too hard to give him credits, like, well, he 658 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: could have made more than that forty three million. It's like, okay, 659 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: he's doing fine. He also got like a huge rays 660 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: off that that last deal. Jake Brisket's gonna play games 661 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: like Jake Brisket is gonna be a big factor. I 662 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: believe whether the Browns make the playoffs or not, because 663 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: I do expect that de Saun Watson suspension to happen. 664 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: We'll we'll see what it is, whether it's four or 665 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: six eight to who. We have no idea. We don't 666 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: even know for sure if it's there, but the way 667 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: they structured the contract indicated that they thought it was coming. 668 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: They did it in a way that he wouldn't lose 669 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: any money. H during the suspension. Um, he was amazing 670 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: the amount of leverage that he, you know, extracted out 671 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: of out of this Brown's front office. Uh. And I 672 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 1: think Jake Briskett is kind of showing you that, like, hey, 673 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: we were gonna have to play some games with Jake Briskett. 674 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's a fitting Kevin Stefanski's offense, 675 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: Like he's the opposite of a quick jrigger guy. He 676 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: just he holds onto the ball forever. Uh. And that 677 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: is not what Stefanski liked about Baker Mayfield. They are 678 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: being linked to Will Fuller. Uh. There is talk that 679 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: they could potentially look to bring Jarvis Landry back. Like 680 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: I do think that. Uh. We're being told that players 681 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: felt a certain way about Baker Mayfield and they're gonna 682 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: feel different about playing with a true franchise quarterback, whether 683 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: we like the situation or not. Um, you could see 684 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: Brissette playing up to ten games, so it's a that 685 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: was a key signing, and uh, I guess you know, 686 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: Case keenum out the door, and something isn't right in 687 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: the stew when Watson was able to sit out or 688 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: was forced to sit out an entire season with the 689 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: Texans who got paid for it, whatever it was, it 690 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: was something million or some huge number to not play 691 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: and just work out at the facility. And then the Browns, 692 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: who get a lot of credit for being smart in 693 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: their front office with Andrew Berry friends, it was smart 694 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: and it was part of the negotiation, which is, yeah, 695 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: we'll pay you one million in bass salary in the 696 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: first year to deal to protect you from being financially 697 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: penalized for what you allegedly did to all these women. 698 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: And it's like, at the end of the day, when 699 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: the dust clears and he's playing again, he'll be essentially 700 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: not penalized at all for um what happened, at least 701 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: on the financial side of things, which also doesn't feel 702 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: right and maybe something that the NFL will look to 703 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: address because that was quite a circumventing of the good 704 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: faith of what a contract is supposed to represent. Any well, 705 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: and right like because you know, yes, it's fair to 706 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: look at the Browns and critique them entirely for what happened, 707 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: But what about the NFL in general? The way that 708 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: this whole thing has gone down is a bad look 709 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: for the league. It's a terrible look for the NFL. 710 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: Came that down the money too, despite all those pitches, 711 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: It's like most of these contracts, it's just like people 712 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: are like, oh, well, can we have an organization where 713 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: where free agents want to play. It's just like, just 714 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: pay him. Whoever pays the most, like basically gets him. 715 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened, right. Von Miller went from the 716 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: beautiful climate of southern California and everything that comes with 717 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: l a as somebody who presents himself was both a 718 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: pro athlete with with the guy that hides his eyes 719 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: on entertainment and being in front of a camera. They 720 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: went up to Buffalo, you know I because they paid 721 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: him a ton of money and he only lives there 722 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: part time during the season, and then he could do 723 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: whatever he wants. Things are different now. You don't you 724 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: don't pack up the you know, an old truck and 725 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: drive to wherever you play and then you live there 726 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: for seven years or until your nee gets blown out 727 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: and then go work at a factory. It's a little 728 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 1: different now. Uh. That was news and was presented by upwork, 729 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: the world's work marketplace. Learn more at upwork dot com. 730 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's stop here for a break. 731 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Oh grave digger, who did a 732 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: great job last week filling in for Ricky? Where is Ricky? 733 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: Ricky can jumping? How are you? Are you engaged? Let's 734 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: start that. I am not no awkward, sorry to disappoint. Yeah, 735 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: I know, but Ricky, I thought that you had the 736 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: like you were describing the way that um it operates 737 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: for the two of you, that you could have extended 738 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: the the invitation to get married, and so you also 739 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: chose not to do that. From your end, From your end, 740 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, no, it's definitely probably gonna be me. 741 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: And and there are there have been purchases. But she 742 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: was even expecting it. It was too obvious. Everyone's commented, tweeting, 743 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: commenting on Instagram. You know, we had what does she 744 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: need to do to prove herself? She's oh, she's proving it. 745 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: Like I said, there have been purchases made. No, there's 746 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: no the windows not closed. The dollhouse window potentially. No, yeah, yeah, no, 747 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: it's good. I just gotta keep her on her toes. 748 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: You know, it was too like, you know, easy to 749 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: expect that. And you said you listened back to the 750 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: shows last week and you you saw that you call 751 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: got some sniper fire, perhaps mostly from me, But at 752 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: any point when you were on the beach celebrating, did 753 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: it occur to you that you were missing perhaps the 754 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: busiest week in the history of the Around the NFL podcast. 755 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean, listening back to you guys like you clearly 756 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: needed material to keep coming back to the ocean bit, 757 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: so it didn't seem that busy to me. She's upset. Listen, Ricky, 758 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: it's good to have you back. Don't leave during free 759 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: agency week again, please, we need you know, I mean, hey, 760 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: Justin did did a great job. He did the grave digger. 761 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: Also speaking of a great job the Titans, great job 762 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: by the Titans. They pulled the trigger around a trade 763 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: for Robert Woods, who became expendable in Los Angeles after 764 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: the trade, after the signing of Alan Robinson. So Tennessee 765 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: acquires Robert Woods. And you're seeing this a lot. And 766 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: again it's why the commanders and everyone that roots for 767 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 1: that organization is annoyed because it's like, wait, I don't 768 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: have to give up multiple mid round picks, and I'm 769 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: taking out a lot of salary. The Titans acquire Robert 770 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: Woods from the Rams in exchange for round pick, because 771 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: you're also taking on his contract and he's a really 772 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: good fit, Greggy for what the Titans are about. They're 773 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: a hard nosed team. They run the football. Everyone knows 774 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: if you follow uh Robert Woods and the Rams that 775 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: he's known as this great team player and a great 776 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: blocker and a great receiver, just a good all around player. 777 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: This he's got Titans written all over him. Yeah, great 778 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: blocking receiver, a possession guy to pair with with a J. Brown. 779 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: It's a nice compliment. He's guaranteed ten million dollars this year, 780 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: which is not much for a wide receiver these days. 781 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's almost half what Kristen Kirk makes, 782 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: and then he's not really do that much money in 783 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: future years. I this was a reminder of how cold 784 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: the NFL business can be, though, Like the Watson News 785 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: is one thing in terms of like you can look 786 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: at things in a cynical way if you wanted that 787 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: all that matter, All teams care about his money and winning. 788 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: Like this Robert Woods move was the one that struck 789 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: me about that too, because all they've talked about is 790 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: he's the captain, maybe the leader of this team, and 791 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: they just had an opportunity to upgrade with Alan Robinson. 792 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: But it's not like Alan Robinson's way younger. He's like 793 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: a year younger. He's not coming off an injury. He's 794 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: a different skill set. They had an opportunity to upgrade, 795 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: and so they did it, and they were ready to 796 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: cut Robert Woods. They like, Robert Woods was not going 797 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: to be on this team anymore. The fact that they 798 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: gave him up for a six round pick indicates they 799 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: would have just cut him if no one was offering 800 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: a six round pick, and that that's called business. But 801 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: that's that's the NFL. I'm with you. I mean, I 802 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: I can trying to think of another wide out that, 803 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: when he was lost to injury, was more widely praised 804 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: um as a locker room guy and as a blocker. 805 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, how often do you even hear that kind 806 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: of stuff. It's like he was so central to their 807 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: attack and what they do. He's now been replaced. I 808 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: love the move for the Titans. It fills a huge need. 809 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: They didn't have a ton of money to go out 810 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: and get a lot of players this offseason, but this 811 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: was a savvy lever poll for Tennessee. Also took a 812 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: picture with my son Walker was very nice to him 813 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: when when Walker said that was his favorite that yeah, 814 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: it's nice. Nice classic man and check it out Instagram. 815 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: The Titans also acquire Austin Hooper. They signed him to 816 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: a one year, six million dollar contract, formerly of the Browns. 817 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: Free to pick up a couple of years ago. Didn't 818 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: really pop for Cleveland, so Titans hope to get him 819 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: in a bounce back here. Big Bone Randy Randy Bullock 820 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: also comes back, the kicker who replaced Sam fiking Uh 821 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: in Week two and had a pretty good year, so 822 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: they say, yeah, we'll bring him back. Hopefully it doesn't 823 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: screw us. In other wide receiver news, the Chiefs signed 824 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster, formerly of the Steelers, one year, ten 825 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: point seven five million contract. Greggy another contract I like 826 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: here looks smart teams make smart moves. That's cool because 827 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: Juju has never come close to replicating the success of 828 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: his first two years in the league, and yet how 829 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: much do you connect his fall off statistically the last 830 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: couple of years to a couple of injuries and also 831 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: Big Ben becoming a statue, couldn't really play anymore. Now 832 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: you're pairing with Patrick Mahomes, when everyone's concentrating on those 833 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: studs on that offense, Juju gonna eat. Yeah, you're you 834 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: rarely get a second chance in life, and I think 835 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: Jiuju made a mistake resigning with the Steelers last year 836 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: when the Chiefs offered him the same or more money, 837 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: and so he's like, well, I shouldn't have done that. 838 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm out. And I think he's kind of misunderstood as 839 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: a player, very hard nosed player. As long as he 840 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: stays healthy, he's exactly what they need. I'm sick of 841 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: waiting for like DeMarcus Robinson or Miko Hardman to turn 842 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: into something that they're not. They're useful players, but they 843 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: needed another reliable why don't and they got one. Yeah, 844 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: they don't really have time for prospects to slowly grow 845 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: into what they would hope. I mean, they were sitting 846 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: right in their super Bowl window, and I think Juju 847 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: is a big bounce back candidate there. Oh, looks like 848 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: we have boys some developing news because Darius Smith agreed 849 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: to terms with the Vikings. According to Ian Rappaport, a 850 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: source tells me in three year deal based value of 851 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: forty two million, worth up to forty seven million with 852 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: incentives fourteen million a p y average per year. Is 853 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: that more than the Ravens we're gonna pay him or 854 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: about the same. It could be it is more on paper, 855 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: but there could be some funny money because if ever 856 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: there was an agent in a player that's gonna tack 857 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: on some fake years to make it look like they 858 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: got more, this would be the time. So you gotta 859 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: kind of see the terms. What's the gear, what's the 860 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: first two years? It's probably in the same ballpark though, 861 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: also Daniel Hunters roster bonus, which was a robust eighteen 862 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: million UM triggered on Sunday, so they've got both. The 863 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: Vikings fans are excited about this. They've been waiting for 864 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: something to happen. It's been quiet up there in Minnesota. 865 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: Like they were mocked. They were making fun of almost 866 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: like they sent out a tweet free agent visit. It 867 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: was like the first one of those that refersed areas. 868 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: So you're on the board here in Minnesota, you're doing things. 869 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: The Bengals they keep doing the thing. The Duke Tobin 870 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: lie to us. I feel like we we point blank 871 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: asked Duke Tobin at the combine. It's okay, by the way, 872 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: if he lied, because they don't say anything they're not 873 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: supposed to. We said, dude, everybody knows you're gonna fix 874 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: your offensive line. That's what's gonna happen in free agencies like, 875 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: oh no, we like the guys. We have a don't know. Uh. 876 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: And then they signed Alex Kappa. Uh, they get Ted Carras, 877 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: carrass Carros, Ted Carris, and now lie All Collins formerly 878 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Three or thirty million dollar contract. Good job 879 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: by Cincinnati. The first visit for Collins was to Cincinnati. 880 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: He doesn't get out of the building without signing a deal. 881 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: So they have now rebuilt that line three out of 882 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: five now, did Um and Mark they've done their job. 883 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: Now Sometimes us uh football people who think we we 884 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: get the game, we were now going to go through 885 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: the entire summer and season be like, oh, Cincinnatis fixed 886 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: their offensive line. Everything's gonna be awesome now and then 887 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't turn out that way. But that's where I 888 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: stand right now. Cincinnatis fixed their offensive line and it's 889 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be a problem anymore. Well, the one thing 890 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: that they were not good at doing was drafting lineman 891 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: and developing them. So you've got known quantities at least. 892 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying these are perfect additions. But like 893 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: Kappa did not give up a sack last year, Um 894 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: regarded as a super tough player. So I in general, 895 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: you're you're essentially what the Chiefs were a year ago. 896 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,479 Speaker 1: You were throwing bodies at a massive like position of need. 897 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: It's all about your quarterback. Like, I have no problem 898 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: with what they've done. I think that this is the 899 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: way to do it. And I don't know if general 900 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: managers typically come on our show to break news. I 901 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: think they like to chop it up a little bit, 902 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: but we seem to not maybe always draw um the 903 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: most richest headline breaking uh concepts from them. I just 904 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I looked eye to eye to Duke 905 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: and I asked him that question. I think I did. 906 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't. He lied to you, Now you did. 907 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: He had a bunch of stats about what their offensive 908 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: line did, and then he used the same stats on 909 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: the podium a little later, so you know what he did. 910 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: And he was like, well, you try to block Aaron 911 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: Donald and who are all the other guys that they 912 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 1: faced during the playoff run? Uh? And he just ticked 913 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 1: off all these tight ends. We're actually not that us. 914 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that we'd be the targets to help. Yeah, 915 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: they got to figure out how to coach the position. 916 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: But Lyle Collins seems like a great pick up. Nice 917 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: we only got twenty million dollars guaranteed. He was three 918 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: for thirty. His market was a little depressed because the 919 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: Cowboys did him somewhat dirty, cutting him a little late 920 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: in the process. Patriots try to get him in the building. 921 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: They end up keeping Trent Brown instead, but I think 922 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: they would have liked Lyle Collins, Like that was the 923 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: exact same contract that the Steelers resigned their right tackle 924 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: chock A Chrea for, And it's like those are not 925 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: equal players. Collins is you know, any team would much 926 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: much much rather have him, so that the value of 927 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: it also worked out. They've done a nice job. All right, 928 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: Let's hit on some more moves here. Running back return Lombardi. 929 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: Lenny returned to the Bucks to Brady effect. He I 930 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: think he had a goodbye Instagram post to the people 931 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: of Tampa. He did, and he erased it, you know, 932 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: seconds after Tom Brady he did. When like no one 933 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: really wanted to give Leonard Pointy that big money. It 934 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: supposedly he was asking for eleven or twelve million. I 935 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 1: was like, that wasn't happening for But he's a proven 936 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: perfect fit on that team and has been good for 937 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: them for a couple of years. So, uh, Cordorrel Patterson 938 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: this one. I don't know why ce pat was so like, 939 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: like pumped up about going back to the Falcons the 940 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: whole time. Did he not have a market after what 941 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: he did last year? Why? Why is he maybe just 942 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: likes in Atlanta? Maybe shouldn't overthink it. I think he 943 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: went to the the team that offered him the most 944 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: money most most likely. I think everyone kind of looked 945 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: at his first eight years and was like, well, Arthur 946 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: Smith did this magical thing with him, But I don't 947 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: know if we have that same idea of how to 948 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: make him special. Let's just let Arthur's just use the 949 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: plays that Arthur Smith used in the playbook. I don't know, 950 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: is it that I don't know? I think he also 951 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: thrived in a scenario where there were no weapons, so 952 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: it's like he's not going to be the same guy 953 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: with him and Russell Gauge and now it's just him 954 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: and Rashad Penny also returned to the Seahawks, the former 955 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: first round pick who was just like a total bust, 956 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: the first round pick, right, yeah, total bus And then 957 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: he got healthy finally and balled out at the end 958 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: of last season, and that was enough to get him 959 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: a second contract with Seattle and one more player returning, 960 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: uh well not directly, but now he's back. The Patriots 961 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: make move and signed the offensive lineman Trent Brown, Rossell 962 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: Douglas and Tany Robert Towny and also back with their 963 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: teams with the Packers. Your thoughts on those moves, fellas 964 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: also Fletcher Fletcher Cox and Zach Pascal to the Eagles. 965 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: I I think that they are reminders and as Patriots 966 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: fans get more frustrated um by the day of just 967 00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: like the lack of new blood being added to this team, 968 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: it is a reminder half of my top one oh 969 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: one for instance, is still available and there's plenty of 970 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: good players not in that top one on one. This 971 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: free agency market has moved slower than others, so like 972 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,959 Speaker 1: freegency is not over by by any means, and there's 973 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of players still out there that 974 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: are going to make very meaningful contributions who just didn't 975 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: have the market that they thought they were gonna have. 976 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 1: But some you know, really good players, Dwayne Brown, Jandevian Clowney, Tyrone, 977 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: Matthew like they're they're players, Stephan Gilmour, There's there's a 978 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: fairly big name players still available, and there's good players 979 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: almost at every position available. So it's like, all right, 980 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: we'll come down, we'll see what it looks like in 981 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 1: three weeks. I think one of the bigger question marks 982 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: going into the next season is if what we saw 983 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: from Penny is who he is or who he was 984 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: uh down the stretch in a in a flash of 985 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: the Pan type scenario, because they have Chris Carson as 986 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 1: well and potentially no good quarterbacks, so they're gonna need 987 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: both those guys. But I mean, the way Penny Penny 988 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: looked like a version of Barry Sanders down the stretch, 989 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: if if that's who he is, uh, I would be 990 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: concerned for the rest of the of the division. We 991 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: were there for a big Rashad Penny game on the 992 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon football Seahawks rams that we're in there by 993 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: Penny in that in that game, I don't Barry Sanders. Wow, 994 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he looked like a ten times better 995 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: version of himself. Le But I was going to Zack Center, 996 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: like a Zack Center in August type dominance. Well that 997 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: isn't that is that's fair? I mean that's I don't 998 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: know if ever put up whatever seven hundred yards in 999 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: five games or whatever. Penny preseason tape, right, there's a 1000 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: reason why Mark was over the moon. Well that's not 1001 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: the reason. That's just you know, the other the same 1002 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: reason he like Toby Gerhardt, Slander and Peyton hillis I 1003 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: appreciated his playing ability. Mark stuff the ballot box to 1004 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: get Peyton hillis on the cover of Madden. It's like 1005 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: you need this Wait what my sound? My sound is 1006 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: now a sound drop. I just want to clarify to 1007 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: the listeners that's not that's me live. I don't think 1008 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: they can tell the difference. What let's hear whatever this 1009 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: is does that even me, I don't even know. Oh 1010 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: that's you, that's you. That's uh the I agree with 1011 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: your point, and it's also your watch out. Daddy's about 1012 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: to come down the runway and start talking right. Welcome 1013 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: to my world, Greg, Like, no one knows what I'm 1014 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: talking about in the show, because what I say is 1015 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: a sound drop from four months ago. You know, we're 1016 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 1: working on AI technology for you, Mark. And actually, if 1017 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: you think about it, think about this, Mark, I didn't. 1018 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: This isn't how I looked at it originally, but maybe 1019 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: ultimately this is the way to look at it. You 1020 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: are an emotional man. Some of these things that happened 1021 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL are traumatizing to you. Sometimes you just 1022 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: need a break. How about in the future when the 1023 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: Browns do something hideous, Mark real, Mark sets it out 1024 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: and we have a Mark what was that? Let's do 1025 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: this and we're ready to roll. I would say as 1026 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: an experiment, like I literally vanish from the show for 1027 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: like three weeks in June and see if anyone even notices. 1028 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: Can you just get I just need a few more 1029 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: Why don't we start just banking these Can you just 1030 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: say this is a huge story. I'll do that right now, 1031 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 1: this is a huge story. What else do we need? Greg, 1032 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: Let's go. I think I'll just say this. I'll okay, 1033 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: we go. I'll just say this. Can you say you 1034 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: nailed it? Dan? We're just gonna stand on that point. 1035 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: Here we go. All right, you nailed it, Dan, I 1036 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: think we do. I don't like that take. Let's try again. Um, 1037 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: well you nailed it, Dan. I think we just we 1038 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: stay right there with that. Wow, Greg, what a great point, Greg, 1039 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: an excellent point by you, and a great article on 1040 00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: the site. All right, let's be standish the news. That 1041 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: was fun. Jamison Crowder Duke Johnson to the Bills. Jameson 1042 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: Crowder is a good receiver if he could stay healthy, 1043 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: and now he gets to play with Josh Allen. So 1044 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: it's another one of those when crowd is making big 1045 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 1: plays in January next year. Oh, it's good to have 1046 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: people that are smart making more his decisions. Gerald Everett 1047 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: to the Chargers. Do you like that? You guys like that? 1048 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: You like that he's like the new Jared Cook replacing 1049 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 1: the old Jared Cook. I I love the Bills off 1050 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: season in general. I feel like they are my Super 1051 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 1: Bowl favorites. They are probably going to be the Super 1052 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: Bowl favorites along with the Chiefs. I would imagine. The 1053 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: only problem I guess they both have is they're both 1054 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: in the A n F A f C. So you 1055 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: could make the argument that the Rams you have a 1056 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: better path than than either of those teams. You know 1057 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm about to begin, or I have already started. Just 1058 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,439 Speaker 1: one up on NFL dot com, the post first wave 1059 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: of free agency power rankings, and I did something, now 1060 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: this is my third year doing it, that I've never 1061 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: done before. I always had this hard and fast rule 1062 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: that whoever wins the Super Bowl, I keep them at 1063 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: number one through the off season, barring something insane happening 1064 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: with the roster, and it hasn't happened in the past 1065 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 1: two years with the champions. And then I keep them 1066 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: at number one till they lose. It's like I just 1067 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 1: leave them there and they're they're fine, and then once 1068 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: they lose, I could recalibrate. And then I realized that 1069 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: was a little too rigid, so I dropped a bombshell 1070 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: on the old dot com and I haven't even checked 1071 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: my mentions. I can't even imagine what people are saying 1072 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: I did. Put the Bills at number one in the 1073 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: Power rankings. I have the Rams at two, and I 1074 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: saw I saw the von Miller changing of address is 1075 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: just enough to flip them. What do you think, bold move, 1076 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: stupid move? Okay with saying the Bills are the best 1077 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 1: team in the league right now. I like the concept 1078 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: of shaking it up, um, just to break from your 1079 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: old patterns. I the A f C is so rugged 1080 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: that I I just not sure that. Like I I 1081 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 1: struggled to put the Bills at number one. I don't 1082 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 1: know if the Bills psychologically could handle being number one, 1083 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: but a strong argument for it. Strong argument, Well, this 1084 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: is it's starting to turn into your Tom Brady gradual decline. 1085 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: Take though, um, you know as a as a high 1086 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 1: placed Rams you know source pointed out in Indianapolis to 1087 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: you Dan, you ranked them dead last when there was 1088 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: eight teams left in the playoffs, dead last. Then when 1089 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: there was four teams left in the playoffs, you rank 1090 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: them dead last. And then in the Super Bowl you 1091 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: even ranked them behind the Cincinnati Bengals, who had appropriately. 1092 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: Using the word dead last is kind of misleading. Yes, 1093 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: I had them in the divisional playoffs. I mean to 1094 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: be fair that wasn't you know I there there were 1095 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: some teams there you could certainly argue that they would 1096 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: have been, that they had had more talent and a 1097 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: better resume at that moment that you know the type 1098 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: the only the only one I regret was the divisional 1099 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: round placement at eight. But you know what, those playoffs 1100 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: are crazy, those are weird. In almost this trophy right here, 1101 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: I almost regret the last one too, because why should 1102 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 1: I regret it? Because you, first of all, eventually you 1103 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: pick the Rams to win the game. So it's just 1104 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: like be consistent because you want to get it right. Ultimately, 1105 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: if you have the choice, don't you want to have 1106 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: the team that wins be number one? Well, when I 1107 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: wrote the Power Ranks, it was almost two weeks before 1108 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: the game. And don't I have the option of changing 1109 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: my mind? You do. I'm just saying, you're saying, it's like, 1110 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: no regrets I got I made the wrong decision. Why 1111 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: not regret it? Why not? Just because it doesn't matter. 1112 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,919 Speaker 1: It's in the end, it's largely meaningless. But like, where 1113 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: do you have the Bengals by the way in your rankings? Um, 1114 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: thank you for the following. That's a great mark. Thank 1115 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: you did make it more of a question than a point, 1116 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: but I'll take it. The Bengals I have at a 1117 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: very respectable number four. So that's where we're at, all, right, 1118 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: here we go, And I kept the Brownies fourteen. I 1119 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: don't know, let's see this quarterback, like, when is he 1120 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna play? I don't know. You know, the Browns are 1121 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: the real deal, now shut up. I don't know if 1122 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals would make my top seven, right, sorry, Westling Brows, 1123 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: even after these reinforcements on the line. I just you 1124 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: just look at the other teams that you could put there, 1125 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs certainly, the Packers. Um, you're right after that, 1126 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: it gets it gets Um. They're not a classic super 1127 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: Bowl team where you just you lock them in at 1128 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: number two. They're not. They're not that show me that 1129 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: you can coach the offensive line. Um, but you're right. 1130 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: Maybe there's not any like locks ahead of him now 1131 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: that I really think about. I put the Bucks ahead 1132 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: of him too, so I think I probably have them five. 1133 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: And that high ranking ram source is not going to 1134 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: be happy when he sees this either, But he is 1135 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: a very nice man and he's probably flipping out right 1136 00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: now in his office. I have it top ten Bills, Rams, Chiefs, Bengals, Bucks, Niners, Packers, Chargers, Broncos, Titans. Ten. 1137 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: That's the top tip for me. All right, check it 1138 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: out NFL dot com slash asut. Finally, in the news 1139 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 1: mark a little thought exercise. I had been my parents 1140 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: got into town yesterday. I've been really busy, um and 1141 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: I did not get a chance. I set this aside 1142 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: to have it on the tab open tab, this athletic 1143 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 1: report on the dysfunction around urban Meyer and I haven't 1144 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: had a chance to read it. I'm looking forward to it. 1145 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: But I was hoping if I could test you in 1146 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: real time, as a man who has written literally hundreds 1147 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: upon hundreds of news articles for the Old Around the 1148 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: NFL blog on NFL dot com, if you can give 1149 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: me a nice lead, uh, in real time on the 1150 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: athletic story that you would put up on dot com. 1151 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: Let's do this. You're asking me to verbalize like the 1152 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: sentence I would actually use to open. Give me the 1153 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sentence or the opening graph. Yeah, I would say, uh, 1154 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't have any idea, to be honest, like the 1155 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: article I perused, like found it. That was a tough 1156 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: one because I think that, alright, Gregg, he's gonna try. 1157 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: He's written maybe thousands going back, he should leave this off. 1158 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: From the outside, the urban Meyer experience in Jacksonville looked 1159 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: like a mess period. It might have been even worse 1160 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: than we imagined. And then and then then get into 1161 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: the details we might need like a Jason Zummalt narration 1162 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: of that one that that's a lead. My favorite part 1163 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: about this article is that DJ Chark is like the 1164 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: only guy on the record just slamming urban Meyer the 1165 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: whole time. You know, just like this prepared it was 1166 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: toxic the coach. It would sound seemed like a terrible 1167 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: job for the spot to be for the coaches. He 1168 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: made some racist comments to John Brown, like saying that 1169 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: he was slow to pick up things because he's from 1170 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the South. Like everything about it just makes this guy 1171 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: seem like the biggest fraud that's ever been uh an 1172 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: NFL head coach. And my big my biggest takeaway is 1173 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of like sweet, just like, forget whatever happened with 1174 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Now I'm ready to just ignore all of 1175 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: that and be excited about Trevor Lawrence moving forward, because 1176 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: this situation was that miserable. I meant the article had 1177 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: so many um like overt things like you just mentioned 1178 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: that showed what kind of um leader he was or 1179 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,439 Speaker 1: lack of a leader. But there were some bizarre little 1180 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: peculiarities to where at one point um he was telling 1181 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: offensive players that he wanted them to dunk the ball 1182 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: over the goal post whenever they scored, even though they 1183 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 1: would be openly fined by the league to do it 1184 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: like that that he was what what is this guy? 1185 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Just sounded about his bizarre and detached as possible, right, 1186 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 1: and he would like deny that he took players out 1187 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: of the games to his coaches, He's like, why why 1188 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: are you saying that? You know I didn't do that, 1189 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: and it's just like what you told us to take 1190 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,479 Speaker 1: about like this, what a what a clown show? Well 1191 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: here's the one that stood out to me, and I 1192 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: couldn't even I can't even tell you because again I 1193 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: have to read it. But is it true that in 1194 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: the articles revealed that urban Meyer didn't know who Aaron 1195 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Donald was? Like who is this ninety nine guy? Yes, 1196 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean according to a staffer, that was like inside 1197 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the building they were about to play the Rams and 1198 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: He's like, this guy sounds like he could be a 1199 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: problem for us. Who what is going on with the 1200 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: cons How did not how were there not? How is 1201 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: there not a single La ravial magnifico during your vetting 1202 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: process and interview process to realize that the guy didn't 1203 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: know the league? I mean, and that makes me cons 1204 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: like he's a con man because he was a con man. 1205 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: He was like a Ponzi scheme as a coach. How 1206 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: about this? How about this for a lead? Ready the 1207 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: con men hired a con man? Period in that story? 1208 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: That is really good? Dang, I like, there's better yours 1209 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: a little more professional like Mike Florio approved. That was 1210 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: a little more a t n there's little I like 1211 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: yours better. You got to know as an editor when 1212 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: you can, when you can juice it up this This 1213 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: guy was literally on Fox talking about leadership like he 1214 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,959 Speaker 1: was getting passed around a lot of the best people 1215 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: in our industry, being like, listen to Urban Myers rant 1216 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: about leadership when he was like on that Fox college football, 1217 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in the NFL? What is up with you? NFL? 1218 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: And finally al Michaels, thank Christ has moved off the 1219 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: one yard line. He got his deal with Amazon. Uh. 1220 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: It is a deal that reportedly gets him quote Joe 1221 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Buck money after Buck and Aikman went together over to 1222 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football and um, you know this from of course, 1223 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: there's only one source. Andrew Marshaunt to the New York Post. Um, 1224 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: he will become the new voice of Thursday Night Football. 1225 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: And guess what who will be his partner? Well, guess 1226 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: we'll guess who it is. I don't know, do you 1227 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: guys know? I do know it's Kirk curb Street. Good. 1228 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: That's a good partner. They did a nice job. We 1229 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: are set up really well now with these after years 1230 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: of us all complaining we have Monday Night Football, well 1231 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 1: we have Sunday Night Football, our guy Tariko and Collinsworth 1232 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Now we have Buck and Aikman and 1233 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 1: if you so desire, the Manning cast with Peyton and Eli. 1234 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 1: And then you go to Thursday and you have al 1235 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Michaels and Kirk Herb Street, who is an awesome college guy, 1236 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: so he knows all the guys coming to league and 1237 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: he's just a really talented, polished broadcaster. We have finally 1238 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: figured it out. Now, if we could just keep these guys. 1239 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean al is almost eighty. Uh, you know, but 1240 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: if we keep this for a few years, we're cooking 1241 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: with gas slash grease mark. There have been weak spots 1242 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 1: in these prime time lineups for ages. We've we have complained, 1243 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: and I think we've rightfully complained, especially with Monday night football. 1244 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: But you even dip into the new talent on Sunday 1245 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: as well beyond Romo, like Greg Olsen looks like he's 1246 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: going to be awesome for as long as he wants 1247 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: to do this as well, so you can't there are 1248 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: there are less Um. I guess Trent Green's out there, uh, 1249 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: which is a good thing. I'm sure he's a nice man, 1250 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: but like I find his analysis somewhat exceedingly bland, and 1251 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 1: that's not as acceptable as it used to be. Got 1252 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: to wipe the grid of these clowns. Well, we don't 1253 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 1: know for sure who's gonna be number one at Fox, 1254 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 1: so that is that'll be interesting to track. It seems 1255 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: like Burkhard and Olson are the logical we don't know 1256 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: that great. I think they'd be great, but because you 1257 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: need you obviously need a pipeline of younger teams that 1258 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: are going to become the iconic older guys, and I 1259 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: think Olsen has showed and burkhard big time. That guy's 1260 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 1: a rising star. We've had him on the show, and 1261 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 1: we're all good with Tony row. I know people like 1262 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: to get on Tony now and I've done it as well. 1263 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 1: But Tony Romo is still a great big game announcer 1264 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: with nance. So we we we did. I think it's 1265 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: it's a miracle, but I think we finally did it. Somehow. 1266 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: He is doing the radio on the big games. But 1267 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, we maybe when our retires, I'll get into 1268 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 1: one of these big cheers. Miracle I tried. I had 1269 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 1: it cued up and then Greg started talking. I said, miracle, 1270 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: here comes the Al Michael's most famous drop in the 1271 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: history of sports broadcasting. It's not your fault. Just sometimes 1272 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 1: you hope these things line up and didn't, and we're 1273 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: just gonna live with it. I mean, we are not 1274 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 1: iconic broadcasters. That's what's been proven, repeated the debate around 1275 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: that that is that's proven. All right, So there you go. 1276 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: You're caught up on the League of thirty two. We'll 1277 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,479 Speaker 1: be back on Thursday. Well I won't be back. I'm gonna, 1278 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, well, sir Daddy Rich is gonna be a 1279 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: daddy down there in Anaheim for a few days. Going 1280 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 1: down to Disneyland. I'm gonna look for the original Tom 1281 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Brady with the very average male face, the guy that 1282 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: was on the teacup on the what was it the 1283 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Dumbo ride? And I think that that human being actually 1284 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: does not exist at this point, he was removed from society. 1285 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: What if I just see that there's like a statue 1286 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: of Brady on that ride and uh, but it's actually 1287 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: what's that? It's the guy from the movie with the 1288 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: spaceballs and the wasn't that somebody got put in clay 1289 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: like the statue? Are you talking about Hans Solo? What 1290 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: if that Tom Brady is trapped in the the clay 1291 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the heartened Clay carbon Nite, I believe referring to Yeah, 1292 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 1: that's a possibility. There was a You've convinced me, all right, 1293 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 1: so I won't be around for a Thursday show, but 1294 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna hold it down. Who's who's sitting 1295 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: in the chair. Clay Bonne will be involved profession I 1296 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 1: don't know, my Nadia four who knows. I'll get crazy, alright, 1297 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 1: enjoy it, boys, and I'll be back with you next week, 1298 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: so uh enjoy, uh enjoy the rest of the week 1299 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: with with the Boys and Ricky and uh we will 1300 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: be back and the Friday Show is back as well 1301 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 1: around the NFL broadcast, So set your DVRs or however 1302 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: you anding media, Connie Fox on that one. Yeah, nice gang, 1303 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: nice gang. All right, let's go. Stan handsOn signing off 1304 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: for the Old Boss and Quiet Storm and Ricky Hollywood. 1305 01:08:47,960 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Until then, beat the call s