WEBVTT - Capital Collision and 2X WWE PPV Previews

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<v Speaker 1>for tomorrow, but I ain't gonna be here. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to get into here today, do we. Ever, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a very very busy weekend. As noted yesterday we were

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<v Speaker 1>joined on the show talking this whole Capital Collision by

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<v Speaker 1>David Finley. It is tomorrow Mercedes Monette in the main

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<v Speaker 1>event against Momo No. I wonder why we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes on the show yesterday. But we will have a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest coming up at some point that I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>on that I guarantee everybody will be so excited when

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<v Speaker 1>this person is on. But I'm not gonna set a

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<v Speaker 1>date because I don't know when it will be. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about Capital Collision. That was a clue, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way. And also this weekend we have two WWE

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<v Speaker 1>pay per views, Bash and Berlin is Saturday and No

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<v Speaker 1>Mercy is Sunday. And the Bashi and Berlin show I

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<v Speaker 1>think they got six matches this time and No Mercy

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So if you're a fan of re action, man,

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<v Speaker 1>have I got a weekend for you as well as

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan. And of course we have got Collision and Rampage.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night was dynamite, the follow up in some ways,

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways not at all to the All In Show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is far for the course. We'll talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, Brian Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live

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<v Speaker 1>like semper vv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Well that

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<v Speaker 1>Vince McMahon deal's coming out. It's titled Mister McMahon. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a Netflix documentary that started in twenty twenty that's

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<v Speaker 1>when development began, taking almost five years, and they worked

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<v Speaker 1>on it and Vince, Vince was initially I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>was part of it, and you know what, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, you know how that Vince operates. He'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>I want it to be fair. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>the good, good and the bad kind of like how

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<v Speaker 1>you know, back in the day, he would tell people

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<v Speaker 1>like I want you to I want you to fight

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<v Speaker 1>me on things. But then of course when you did,

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<v Speaker 1>he would be really angry about it. He would say

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, but then is that surprising? But anyway, then

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<v Speaker 1>everything went down and now he's gone, and so everything

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<v Speaker 1>got put on hold because I got to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. So now we're going to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>The docuseries available on Netflix Wednesday, September twenty fifth, Evolving

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<v Speaker 1>along the Way Oh Sure Did, six one hour episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>produced by Bill Simmons and Tiger King executive producer Chris Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Poster for the series describes McMahon as both a mastermind

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<v Speaker 1>and a madman, says, mister McMahon chronicles a rise and

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<v Speaker 1>fall of Vince McMahon, controversial businessman and co founder of WWE,

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<v Speaker 1>from his transformation of the WWE from a small regional

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<v Speaker 1>business into a global entertainment powerhouse to the explosive sexual

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<v Speaker 1>misconduct allegations that led to his eventual resignation. His Resignation

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<v Speaker 1>six episode series offers a deep dive into McMahon's life

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<v Speaker 1>and his endearing franchise. Two hundred hours of interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>McMahon himself prior to his resignation, family members, business associates,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most iconic names in wrestling history, journalists,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So we'll see. We'll see about this documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it could be great, It could be terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>could be in the middle. I know that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>real shocking, but I mean, and honestly could be This

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<v Speaker 1>could be one of the best documentaries ever since half

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<v Speaker 1>of it was done after he was ousted. It had

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely no control over it whatsoever. It could be terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it could be just a bunch of bs

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<v Speaker 1>and et cetera. It could be somewhere in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>If if I had to make my guess, I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>probably somewhere in the middle. But we shall see.

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<v Speaker 3>What day does this date?

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<v Speaker 1>On September something or other?

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<v Speaker 3>That Wrestling observer Radio Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother it's gonna be six weeks, so it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>let me retire before then. But yeah, that's it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what else coming up in September the CMLL ninety

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<v Speaker 1>first Anniversary show with the debut of Orange Cassidy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been added to the event. Orange Cassidy gets to work

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<v Speaker 1>Arena Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems like it's a very good fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, him and Rocky and Satoshi ko Jima versus Volador Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantis Junior and Ultimo Guerrero. So yeah, Chris Jericho will

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<v Speaker 1>make his return. He'll take on Mystico on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, not the first time we have seen

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<v Speaker 1>a w stars in Arena Mexico. Now it's the place

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Everybody wants to go. So where's Cassidy next

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<v Speaker 1>on the list?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever want to wrestle in Mexico?

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<v Speaker 1>To how don't even want to travel to Mexico? I

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<v Speaker 1>had Mexico come to me. I once wrestled Los Vianos,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. Yeah, for the for the UWA tag team titles.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't put it on my resume. Didn't win that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only one of the Vianos was deceased. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a tag match. Yeah, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>who my partner was actually, now they think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't care about him, cared about the Vianos. Might

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<v Speaker 1>have been Matt Farmer for all I know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was, though, God, who was my partner in that?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you say potato and Spanish plotato.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was planning to come out of retirement for

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<v Speaker 1>one final match, Mick Foley considered MJF being his opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>He was considering having one last match for his sixtieth

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<v Speaker 1>birthday in twenty twenty five, but he suffered a concussion

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<v Speaker 1>while only doing light training decided that ain't happening. He

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<v Speaker 1>stated that if he had gone through with the idea,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably would have chosen MJF. When I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of having that last match, I'll tell you what. When

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<v Speaker 1>I announced the attention, there was no shortage of people

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<v Speaker 1>from every promotion reaching out to me, and one guy

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have gone with because he'd clearly done some

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it and lined out six great weeks of TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Was MJF. That sounds like MJF. We didn't take a

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<v Speaker 1>photo together because we didn't want to, like ruin a

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<v Speaker 1>secret meeting. But I heard that he had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked it. I heard what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Had no doubt we would have pulled it off perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so good and in his prime. Abe, he's on

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<v Speaker 1>his prime. He's only like twenty six. He could have

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<v Speaker 1>worked around my weaknesses, played to my strengths. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we could have done something pretty cool. MJF final answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh not looking good.

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<v Speaker 3>So six weeks of TV for AW? Or could this

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<v Speaker 3>have been for anybody? Could they have had their own

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix series? Nick Foley's last match with MJF.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's having that match.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how the match would have been, but

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<v Speaker 3>the microphone battle would have been pretty darn good, that's

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right. Uh AW has announced a date for

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<v Speaker 1>the taping of Battle of the Belts twelve. Hopefully we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have some title matches on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>When is this taped?

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<v Speaker 1>Alongside Collision? October seventeenth, Stockton, California. The They have a

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<v Speaker 1>promotional poster with names on it, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a it's for a Collision and Battle of the Belts,

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<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't really tell you anything. But hey, at

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<v Speaker 1>least I gotta say the last Battle of the Belts,

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<v Speaker 1>we did have a tag team title change, that six

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<v Speaker 1>man tag team title change with Dustin and the Van

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<v Speaker 1>Erks beating the Undisputed Kingdom, and then we also had

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<v Speaker 1>three non tie matches Battle of the Belts for that show.

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<v Speaker 3>So hey, that part of my request for this next

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<v Speaker 3>WBD deal is no more Battle.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Belts. Yeah, well, I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have more Battle of the Belts to be honest, super

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<v Speaker 1>so uh why oh this person here says, why is

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<v Speaker 1>the Vienno's match not on Cage Match? Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something, everybody does anybody know when cage match actually

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<v Speaker 1>like started? How old is it? How old is cage match?

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<v Speaker 1>Mid midds like the two thousand, somewhere in the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousands would so, okay, well I started wrestling. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't count the YWF, which now I do aftery saw

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<v Speaker 1>some people have counted some of their career. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't count it, which some people would not, then

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<v Speaker 1>I debuted a ninety eight. Do you know how many

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<v Speaker 1>matches of mine are not on Cage Match? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>literally probably over a hundred. So no, it's not on

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<v Speaker 1>Cage Match, many many other matches. I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 3>The wrestler pages.

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<v Speaker 1>How many matches have for me on cage Match. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the irritating things about Cage Match.

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<v Speaker 3>How many of those matches did you win? I?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends on who is wrestling Tim Flower, zero,

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy many. Let's see what it says.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure Orange Cassidy's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not. My Wikipedia has a thing about my career,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it just ends in like I forget what

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<v Speaker 1>year it was, but it doesn't have any of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Like as soon as the site started.

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<v Speaker 1>It ends the week that I forget the match it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually want to know, I think there was a

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<v Speaker 1>match wrestle Mania weekend that didn't happen. It ends this

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of matches didn't happen. Actually, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of matches I almost had

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. I almost had Brian Danielson, I almost

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<v Speaker 1>had Marty Jeannetti. I almost had Ethan Page.

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<v Speaker 3>Ethan Page, I remember that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I didn't end up with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever, I actually should be happy you didn't end up

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<v Speaker 3>with Marty Jeanetti. That could have been something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that would have been something though, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And looking at the loop, I'd have done it. Base

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Danielson on there. Beautiful Brian Alvarez is not.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't beautiful Brian Alvarez.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your Lucan name?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My Lucan name I was. I was just me try

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<v Speaker 1>Chico Alvarez. I don't see how many matches, it says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know after the break seventy five back

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment, it was of her life.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Alvarez and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know I was happily retired. But then I just realized

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<v Speaker 1>something sad. Well, my illustrious career ended March twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>No March twenty fifth, twenty twenty three. God, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. It was me and Tom, it

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<v Speaker 1>says here. They actually have it backwards on cage match,

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<v Speaker 1>which I appreciate. My final match was a win over

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<v Speaker 1>the Bang Bros. Someday my children will be googling me

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<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna be awkward. I need at least one

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<v Speaker 1>more match for my retirement. I can't go out against

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<v Speaker 1>the Bang Bros. That's just too awkward. We'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure this out because I don't actually want to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be like A. I don't know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe A. I think I could just I

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<v Speaker 1>could take I could take fifty chops and not any bumps.

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<v Speaker 3>How hard do you want to hit?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't mind being hit or hitting. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take a bump. There's a big difference.

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<v Speaker 3>And Szuki that would be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a problem with Misuzuki, and that's you go

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<v Speaker 1>over an entire match and then you go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and he does something totally different. Well, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. I don't want any surprises. By the way, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where's that? Where's that? Lenny counter? Can we add another one?

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Danielsen is not retiring. He did not vacate the

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<v Speaker 1>title on on Dynamite.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's almost like I keep telling people what's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't listen to me, even though I'm virtually

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<v Speaker 1>always right. It's funny because like Lenny is always wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is such a die hard aw fan. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen anybody who so like expects things to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in aw and they totally don't. But he's still ah now,

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<v Speaker 1>just wants to well, it's never gonna happen. It's never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. I don't think Lenny has ever been right

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<v Speaker 1>when I was wrong, not one single time. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think now. Once Brian Daylsen proclaimed he is going home,

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<v Speaker 1>but not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Statement my entire life, he is, You've never been right

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<v Speaker 3>when I've been wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's never been something that we like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna happen, and think he thinks this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, and he's right and I'm wrong. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's ever happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible actually, So anyway, Danielson says he'll retire later,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to defend his title. He's gonna put us

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<v Speaker 1>all into it, and we'll see how long he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone want to I mean, he's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>all out. Do we want to make that bet? Next?

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<v Speaker 1>He's not losing the title to Jungle Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's a little thing you have in your

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<v Speaker 3>pocket every time he defends the title. Now, as we

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<v Speaker 3>may be seeing the last of Brian Danielson's full time

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<v Speaker 3>in ring career. So I guess that's what you can

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<v Speaker 3>can continue to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I'm one of Brian Danielson's dream opponents.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both from Seattle. We came up at roughly the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. I was the veteran.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.280
<v Speaker 1>We both were at King of Indies two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>one where we made our name. Both worked for the

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<v Speaker 1>new Revent Portland Wrestling.

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<v Speaker 3>And the intro.

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, it's crazy the similarities between the two of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Mutch ask Brian Danielson. Then you may tie you in

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<v Speaker 3>the knots a little bit, though you may have to

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<v Speaker 3>work at an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a break, well, he wants four. He was

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<v Speaker 1>my corner man. He was my corner man when I

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<v Speaker 1>faced UH Peach Machine in a grappling match in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight. Was Peach was corn by Roderick Strong?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that is true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you had to stick ed in the same room

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<v Speaker 3>as Uh Brian and maybe that's probably why he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>come around anymore.

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I think after that I actually taught him the standing

0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Native American deathlock. Really, actually I may have. I remember

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.280
<v Speaker 1>there's actually a picture of me showing him something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember what it is. He probably doesn't remember. He

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<v Speaker 1>probably thinks he taught that move to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he had toul and unlearn and then learn it

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<v Speaker 3>right from Jerry Brisk that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I need to teach him again. Raw on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>one point seven ninety six million viewers and a point

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<v Speaker 1>five six number one in all of television.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the kids don't know. Peach Machine and the twitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Chat forty higher than the top rated show on network TV,

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<v Speaker 1>almost triple the highest rated show on cable. But they're

0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 1>not hot. But they doubled everything on primetime and tripled

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<v Speaker 1>everything on cable, so I think that's actually pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>is my interpretation. Then we had NXT, which did six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifteen thousand and a point seventeen, probably because

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the show sucked. I don't like that show at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I did like the main event segment. I did think

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<v Speaker 1>the main event segment with Joe Hendry and Ethan Page.

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean this Ethan Page's gimmicks, Champion is It's every

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.920
<v Speaker 1>feud is the same. The challenger just repeatedly pins him.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened again here, and he'll face Joe Hendry on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday with Trick Williams as a special guest referee and

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<v Speaker 1>then hopefully the shows will start getting better. They hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>been good.

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<v Speaker 3>People weren't sticking around there for that ending where they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really grab him early it didn't seem.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think it was just because the show felt

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<v Speaker 1>so dead, like the crowd was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>They taped two shows, so this was the second. This

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<v Speaker 1>was third and fourth hour, and you could tell they

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:56.919
<v Speaker 1>were tired because they cared about nobody except Henry and

0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you know who who then got beaten by Gallas like

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<v Speaker 1>a mid card geek.

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<v Speaker 2>A raw.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be held in Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 3>You going.

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Not a chance?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you joking?

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<v Speaker 3>A chance?

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be uh? Taped on Sunday, November third, airing

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday November fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmmm, well won to miss.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the show I'm sure is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a hot crowd, I can tell you that much.

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Then we've got a new commentary team for ros starting

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.640
<v Speaker 1>on Monday. You're made man Joe Tessitore.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel good about him. He have no idea who he

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<v Speaker 3>is to you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's a guy just a guy. I've heard of him.

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>He's he's been on ESPN, ABC, boxing in college football.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what's funny is like Vince is gone

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<v Speaker 1>and some times they still do the same thing. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is gonna be good. Okay, maybe he'll be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, Mike, we don't know that. Okay, They've called

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<v Speaker 1>They've called fifty guys that have worked elsewhere, and they

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be wrestling fans, or some of them don't

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>even they're not even wrestling fans, and they put them

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and I mean, who.

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<v Speaker 3>Was this could for an hour?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the guy that had done MMA? What was

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<v Speaker 1>his name?

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<v Speaker 3>Jason or Jimmy Smith?

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Smith like Dave liked Jimmy Smith. And listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make it clear, I got no problem with

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Smith. But brother, he wasn't good. Like he was fine.

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>He was carried by Corey Graves or whoever. They always

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<v Speaker 1>bring these guys in, they're always fine. I've never you

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<v Speaker 1>know how long I've been doing this, We've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot, but talking about a lot of me

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. I started in nineteen ninety five. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I've met a lot of fans, you know me,

0:23:58.080 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>fans I met in the UK, A lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed a lot of people. I've talked to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, and in thirty years next year, talking

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to thousands of people, fans, wrestlers, the whole nine yards.

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard a single person say I got it

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<v Speaker 1>into wrestling because of Jimmy Smith or Pat McAfee or

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>any of these other people that have come and gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they do it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why they do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do what?

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Just hire Joe Tessitours. Hire a guy who's worked in

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<v Speaker 1>the business and done the job. It is good at it, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, they're not going to hire Dave Praisac Well, they should,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 3>they should, they should. They're not. Okay, they're not, And

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I get it. Add non vurk was an interesting.

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Add non vork. How did that experiment go?

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't go well. But Joe Tessitore is a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who is familiar with professional wrestling.

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Somebody made me a list of all the guys like

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<v Speaker 1>this they've hired.

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead. Did grow up watching professional wrestling.

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Everybody grew up watching a lot.

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>But there he does a lot of production. He's done

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot, he's done. He's done a lot of things

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 3>where I think he's going to be an overall good addition.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Plus oh yeah, the Irish guy what's his name just

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>got fired.

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.880
<v Speaker 3>He was a good backstage guy. They just should never have.

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<v Speaker 1>Made That's that's my point, Mike, this guy here, guy people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried because it's Letty telling me this. He goes

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Joe's really good. That means that Joe must be terrible.

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Lenny says he's really good. Listen, I don't

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>care if somebody was really good in what they're doing

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>outside of wrestling, do you understand, like, who's uh.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're acting like Pat McAfee is some sort of failure.

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not saying he's a failure, but is he

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<v Speaker 1>great at his job?

0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 9>Look, he's McAfee find being carried Bob of hosting college

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 9>Game Day. I think he sucks Mike Adam for bearing.

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.479
<v Speaker 9>I think he's ridiculous. With that said, I love his energy.

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 9>I think he's great at doing something. You know what

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 9>that's something is his own show and actually being the

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 9>play by play guy on Raw.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's too early to say if some kid goes, yeah,

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I got into wrestling because but no guy ever said

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<v Speaker 3>I got into wrestling because Bobby and Gorilla had the

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<v Speaker 3>best banter either. I mean, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I got into wrestling, actually captivated by that

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<v Speaker 1>show that in Dino Bravo matches, it wasn't Dino Bravo brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he does a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope he buries you unmercifully. And you didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know what for saying that some bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say he was a bum. I said, why

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<v Speaker 1>do they always hire people that have never done the

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<v Speaker 1>job before?

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<v Speaker 3>Bryan, They have put people also in that position and

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<v Speaker 3>run them out of that position who might have been

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<v Speaker 3>good or who have been good in other play, like

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<v Speaker 3>a Taz. They put Renee Piquette in that spot and

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<v Speaker 3>then treated her like garbage and then she was out

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<v Speaker 3>of there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was you're missing my point. That was the old era.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand they did stupid these other guys. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a new era.

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<v Speaker 3>But Brian, every guy you mentioned with the came in

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<v Speaker 3>the old era. Kevin Patrick, add non Burg, all those guys,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Adamley, they were all part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And now there's a new regime and we're back to

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<v Speaker 1>hiring an ESPN ABC guy who's never called wrestling in

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<v Speaker 1>his life to be the lead announcer of a professional

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling show. That's freaking weird. Dude back in a moment,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm moving on, why don't you take the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done the job. That's my point. That's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it was actually good at the job, was

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Foley, except for Vince yelling at him all the time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Vince is gone, McK foley's nothing to do. Bring him in,

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<v Speaker 1>have him to do commentary. Gruel him on soon and

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby he did. And what do they both have in common?

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<v Speaker 1>They were wrestlers with the company Jesse Ventura. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the years, tons of them. It's a match like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy going McAfee was a wrestler because he trained

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<v Speaker 1>in Rip Roger's Barn. Now he was not a wrestler,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a commentator, and then they did an angle

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<v Speaker 1>with him and he made him a wrestler. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was stopping John Moxley's returned.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to see Russell McAfee in Rip Rogers Barn.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd pay for that and get doctor Tom Pritchard to

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<v Speaker 3>be the special guest referee. I'll do commentary on that one,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 3>all for it. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>John Moxley is back, and I don't know what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>This is not your company anymore? He said he is

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>aligned with Marina Shaffir and he wants Darby Allen. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been mentoring her for like two years, so legitimately, so

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>they've got something going on. It's probably I don't know

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>if it's I don't know if you will be part

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Blackpool Combat Club or the BCC because he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything with the BCC on the show, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he and Daniel Brian were Brian Danielsen wear black

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<v Speaker 3>shirts and support of each other there. I wonder where

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<v Speaker 3>this is gonna go with Moxley and if he really

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<v Speaker 3>because they made it sound like he's got words with

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<v Speaker 3>Darby Allen and almost made it feel like it. First man,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he's got some beef with him, But I have

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<v Speaker 3>a feeling maybe they all just joined together here because

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>he seemed to be talking. Was he talking to Tony

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<v Speaker 3>khanza Avatar, Tony Schavani when he said that this is

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<v Speaker 3>not your company anymore? Or was he talking to somebody else?

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<v Speaker 3>Be interesting to see how all that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>We had is she Ea and Hangman page, which was frickin' awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>This match was so awesome. And if she took I swear,

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, everybody, to the Lord above, is

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<v Speaker 1>she took the greatest DDT in the history of wrestling,

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of wrestling. I'm gonna tell you. For

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<v Speaker 1>those who didn't see the match, I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. You're going to listen to it. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to believe me, and then you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>watch it and you're gonna say, holy heck, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, exactly what happened. They were on the apron,

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<v Speaker 1>Hangman grabbed a she eat, he gave him a DDT.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she landed in a headstand. He was on his

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<v Speaker 1>head upside down on the apron and his body was

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<v Speaker 1>sticking straight up in the air a legitimate headstand, not

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<v Speaker 1>using his hands, just on only his head. He then

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>remained balanced upside down on his head for six full

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<v Speaker 1>seconds before he collapsed. I watched this over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over again. It was like I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything like it. It was like I watched someone

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<v Speaker 1>get killed and it was so funny and I was laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I watched it again and again and again. I

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>felt like I was on the highway to hell. But

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 1>he didn't die, so it turns out he was all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the funniest, most preposterous, ridiculous bump you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. I don't know how he did it. I

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know how he did it, but he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang man, of course one, and then Swerve came out.

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<v Speaker 1>They went back and forth here having a cage match

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<v Speaker 1>at all Out. I will say that having two weeks

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>between all In and All Out is better than having

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>one week. But this doesn't listen. I like tradition too, okay,

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's one or the other. I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to get rid of All Out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well next year, no, no, no, no, no. Next year you

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 3>don't have to worry about it because they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be doing the Forbidden Door build at that around that time,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 3>and then all In is going to be in Texas

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not going to be what's the date on

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 3>that one? I believe it's going to be moved away

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 3>where you don't have to worry about it as much.

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>And we had a MGF coming out for a promo,

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>his neck all taped up. It was actually a great promo.

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>And then he gets attacked by Daniel Garcia, at which

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 1>point Daniel Garcia is another one. He cut the best

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>pro I've ever seen him cut in a w by

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>leaps and bounds, leaps and bounds. They will be having

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a match also at all out or Garcia wants to

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>give him that tombstone off the middle rope.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't diamond ring because he pawned it for plane tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's that's the story he told. But I think

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>his character was making it up just to like. But

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe that is the actual story, but legitimately, Uh,

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the dynamite diamond ring vanished in the UK, and I

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>guess it's possible that he lost it, but I think

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it was stolen.

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 3>How do you figure that as opposed to possibly him

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 3>losing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know anything about London? Don't wear anything nice

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>anywhere in London unless you want it stolen. You can

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>off your neck, pickpocket, stolen off the ring or stolen

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>off the finger. Yeah, Ask any of the london Ners here,

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>they'll tell you. We had learning tree in Roderick Strong

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>versus Conglomeration in hook as a match. Loved it. Thought

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the booking was so stupid. So I'm watching this match,

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, well, you know we got all

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>out coming up. Let's do a finish to set up

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>all out. So it comes down to Roderick and Hook

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>in the ring together. Thought okay, well yeah, Roderick pins

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Hook and then we got the you know, the FTW

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>title match. Well they're doing the deal and Hook puts

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>him in the red rum and Roderick Strong taps out. Now, granted,

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 1>his foot was under the ropes and it shouldn't have counted,

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but the fact is it did count. He tapped out.

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>He tapped out.

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I quit.

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Then he attacks him afterwards, and they set up the

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>match for all out. He's getting a championship match based

0:37:54.239 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>on submitting to the champion. Okay, whatever, it doesn't matter

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>if his foot was under the rope, you geek. At best,

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that means that like he shouldn't have been pinned or

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>submitted her, but he gave up. Yeah that's stupid. Yeah, now,

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>if you would have pin Hook, fine, that sets up

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a title match.

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<v Speaker 3>Handful of trunks. Maybe his feet on the rope, something

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>like that. Maybe we had another.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing I didn't like that was a Mercedes. She's having

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a victory party. But his backstage, like just her and Camille.

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>She's all by herself, celebrating alone. And then private party

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>comes up and you know, Zay starts hitting on her,

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>and then uh Okada comes up and he's smitten with

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Mercedes and he does a dance with her and everything,

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, this is one of those social

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>media things. What is happening here? Like what? Like I

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>think there was something on social media where like Okada

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was smitten with Mercedes, likes he's in love with her

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I cannot wait until Samoa Joe comes back

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 3>and dresses up Okada just like Ocado to his green

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 3>hornet like they were in TNA Impact, Because it's about

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. I don't care what anybody says.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, apparently there was a segment on TV Quickly a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks back. Wow, why does Ocada love Mercedes? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is Okada a heel? I mean, I swear to god,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never in my life. Listen, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>heels that people like, Okay, but even heels that people like,

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll still find a few people doing them. There isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a living being on earth that has Bootokata one time

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<v Speaker 1>in this company. Why is he a heel nobody?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm trying to figure out why he likes visits

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<v Speaker 3>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had a Shavanni interviewing Mariah May, which was

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<v Speaker 1>this segment she showed off her belt and left. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot say that I was like blown away by this

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<v Speaker 1>follow up to her beating Tony Storm in Wimeny.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't sound like the crowd was either, but that was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the crowd all night.

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<v Speaker 1>I explained this, like, they don't care about Mariah unless

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<v Speaker 1>she is linked to Tony. That is a problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think she wrestles in lingerie too or just

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<v Speaker 3>threatens to expose it?

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<v Speaker 1>Unlikely? And we had Ricochet and Kyle Fletcher, which was

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was exactly what I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be and is exactly what it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Kyle Fletcher put in there to have a banger

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<v Speaker 1>and then lose again, which he did and man Ricochet

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<v Speaker 1>was gassed by the end of this match. He is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was howling because I'm watching the match and like

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<v Speaker 1>I can see like he's doing all of his stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's determined to have an old school ricochet match,

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<v Speaker 1>like a on the Indies type match, but like he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing so much stuff and they're going so fast, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know in the last time he wrestled was

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, actually, you know what, let's find out the

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<v Speaker 1>last time he had a match.

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<v Speaker 3>Say late June something like that, but probably certainly didn't

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember it being to that kind of physicality for

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<v Speaker 3>that long. He had a bunch of speed matches on

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<v Speaker 3>the way out, did he not? Let see?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the last time he had a match prior to

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<v Speaker 1>the Gauntlet, which he was only in four for a second,

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>was a speed match which was only four minutes, and

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>that was June seventh, so it's been two months since

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he had a match. And anyway, you can just see

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>near the end of the match, you can see him

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<v Speaker 1>taking these big, deep breaths, but he's just he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep going. He's gonna go to the end. And he

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<v Speaker 1>finally gets that that pinfall, and then he collapsed and

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>he laid on his back and he just laid there

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<v Speaker 1>and laid there and breathed and laid there, and the

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>ref comes and he helps him sit up, and I'm like, man,

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>this guy gave it hiss all. I'm not even saying

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>anything bad, but man, he gave it as all. And

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>then outcomes will Ospray, but he's immediately killed by Pac

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's Pack and Osprey. It all out, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the main event was the Brian Danielson segment where yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he he revealed he is not quitting, He's gonna keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that he issued an open challenge, first come,

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 1>first served. And by the way, people aren't gonna like this,

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but this was stupid because nobody knew what Brian Danielson

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>was going to say. Well I did, but nobody knew

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>that he was going to issh an open challenge, first come,

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 1>first served. Somehow, Rickshet had a pre taped video that

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<v Speaker 1>aired on the screen addressing Brian Danielson's statement accepting the challenge.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Jack Perry, and then Jack Perry jumps in

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<v Speaker 1>from behind because it was, in fact it taped earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>So that actually made absolutely no sense whatsoever, no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the match. It is Jungle Boy against

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Danielson for the title.

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<v Speaker 2>It all out.

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 3>It happens a lot there to some degree or another.

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<v Speaker 1>How did how did Jungle Boy know that he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to not retire. How did maybe I told him?

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<v Speaker 1>How did he know that he was going to issue

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<v Speaker 1>an open challenge? How did he know exactly what he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say so that he can make that

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<v Speaker 1>video in advance to air on the big screen.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you think about John Moxley unleashing? Marina Shaffer

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 3>on that.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that the backstage guys though we talked

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>about it well, I mean the backstage actor were beyond

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<v Speaker 1>It was because of the actors in the back they

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<v Speaker 1>were so horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, my god, what movie did John Moxley watch?

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I actually know the movie he watched.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 3>Because there's going to be things that are gonna have

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>to be explained. If this is going to be one

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 3>of those, we're taking it from legitimate movies and weaving

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 3>it into wrestling.

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I Rumper Stomper Australian cult classic nineteen ninety two.

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>He was playing Russell Crowe in this in what he

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>was doing all right? Not making this up? Yep, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a scoop for you.

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Maybe with Punk God, now he can go back to

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 3>some of the Rocky storylines, because you know, most people

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 3>have seen Rocky obviously Punk has it, and of course

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 3>you haven't.

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I knew Lenny would explain that it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in a moment Observe Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alfarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike semper VV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on the show, Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live,

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<v Speaker 1>like semper VV also Wrestling Observer dot Com, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to explain that a pre taped promo.

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<v Speaker 3>Never mind, I know, I know, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to come up Tonight the Brida Vintie Show

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<v Speaker 1>a special guest Lisa, who is there in the UK?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she taking over from Vinnie's No, Viny's back?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yep, Me and Vinnie and Lisa will be talking

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>some memories from London as well as this week's aw

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Dynamite and NXT.

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<v Speaker 3>Was Lisa one of these drunk people that close talked

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 3>to you now with the hot breath and whatnot. No,

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 3>she was very professional in the rest of these You

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<v Speaker 3>drink any of it all over there?

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I drink every day. That should tell you something about

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>my trip to London.

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Ciders, Hey, hard liquor, hard liquor vodka.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm back on the wagon now tried out. I'm

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>just back on the wagon. I'm about to end the

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>actual literal wagon because I'm going to the fair tomorrow

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and I will I will get off the wagon when

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the fair.

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you understand you're getting the pie eaton competition?

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>There's no Lance show today. He's at TNA. Also like

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a fair, I'd say like a carnival. But it's much

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>better now. Anyway, we got to wrap it up. Got

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot to do here today. But I'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>later on tonight with more. Michaeill be up tomorrow, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>with Filthy.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll probably not sinceil be in Washington, d C. Getting ready.

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<v Speaker 1>You can still do the show. He's got a phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it work well, he no, all right, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, We're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody will talk you next time. Wrestling Observer Live.

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