Speaker 1: I've heard that there's a house that has some bodies
Speaker 1: in the basement.
Speaker 2: Somebody told you that Shakaia was a victim of human trafficking.
Speaker 3: I'm come to find out. This is like it exploded
Speaker 3: into this huge thing.
Speaker 4: I knew, I just knew the move wrong.
Speaker 5: Police say thirty three year old Jared brid Agan was
Speaker 5: shot dead.
Speaker 4: I kept calling his phone during the drive.
Speaker 3: Gunned down in front of his two year old daughter.
Speaker 3: It's a murder of the stun Jack Speach neighbors.
Speaker 6: His murder has attracted national attention, with the investigators saying
Speaker 6: he was targeted.
Speaker 4: Eventually, a police officer answered and told me to come
Speaker 4: to the police station.
Speaker 7: Justice is something that takes different shapes or forms.
Speaker 5: If you know something, heard something, please it's never too
Speaker 5: late to do the right thing.
Speaker 3: So I'm Dana Thompson aka Body Movin, and.
Speaker 7: I'm John Green. For about a decade, Deanna and I
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Speaker 7: animal abusers arrested.
Speaker 3: We spent countless hours scouring the dark web helping catch predators.
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Speaker 3: get law enforcement to take us seriously about a man
Speaker 3: that was killing cats online and he was threatening to
Speaker 3: move on to kill humans. And that was Luca mcnatdah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you might have heard about the Netflix special called
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Speaker 3: That's us. Well, now we're turning our online investigative skills
Speaker 3: to some of the most unexplained, unsolved, and just ignored cases.
Speaker 7: This is True Crimes, the production of iHeartRadio and KT's Studios.
Speaker 3: So let's explain how the season is going to work.
Speaker 3: We're going to investigate a few cases. We never know
Speaker 3: where they're going to lead.
Speaker 7: But our hope is at a minimum, maybe we can
Speaker 7: bring attention to these cases that are being under investigated
Speaker 7: and just maybe in discussing them on our podcast, we
Speaker 7: can provide information to law enforcement that moves this investigation forward.
Speaker 3: Right, So, our first case the season is the murder
Speaker 3: of Jared Bride Again. He's a thirty three year old
Speaker 3: Microsoft executive that was shot while driving back to his
Speaker 3: home in Saint Augustine, Florida.
Speaker 7: Jared had just dropped off his nine year old twins
Speaker 7: at his ex wife's house. We've all heard about this
Speaker 7: case online, but.
Speaker 3: News reports only provide a sliver of the story. We're
Speaker 3: hoping his wife Kirsten can fill us in more about
Speaker 3: that night.
Speaker 4: On February sixteenth, the Wednesday night, Jared left and he
Speaker 4: took our daughter Bexley, who was two, with him on
Speaker 4: what is referred to as date night. In his divorced
Speaker 4: agreement with his ex, they had it listed so they
Speaker 4: had fifty to fifty custody of the kids Name and Abbie,
Speaker 4: the twins, and so on the weeks that they were
Speaker 4: at our home, his ex wife Shanna would take them
Speaker 4: on date night on Wednesdays, and then when they were
Speaker 4: at her home the next week, then Jared would take
Speaker 4: them on date nights. So that's what he left to do.
Speaker 4: Our daughter alwaysn't with him. She loves being with her
Speaker 4: dad like she's always with them. So he left our
Speaker 4: house about like five point fifty that evening and then
Speaker 4: picked up Lemon Abbey from his ex's house, took them
Speaker 4: to dinner at this barbecue restaurant. They got ice cream.
Speaker 4: And I know this because my stepdaughter Abby had texted
Speaker 4: me from the restaurant on Jared's phone and told me
Speaker 4: what they were doing and what they were eating, and
Speaker 4: then after he dropped Leam and Abbey back off at
Speaker 4: his ex's house, he called me. This is like seven
Speaker 4: forty seven in that evening, and so it was a quick,
Speaker 4: quick call. I hung up, and it was probably within
Speaker 4: a minute or two that he was shot. And so
Speaker 4: what happened is he was on his usual route. We
Speaker 4: ninety nine percent of the time took the same route home.
Speaker 4: So he was on this road and there was a
Speaker 4: tire in the middle of the road and they believed
Speaker 4: that that is why he stopped. His emergency flashes were
Speaker 4: on and within you know, a few steps of exiting
Speaker 4: the vehicles, he was shot multiple times at close range,
Speaker 4: with our daughter and her part scene. So I was
Speaker 4: realizing he wasn't home. He usually is, and when he wasn't,
Speaker 4: I started to get worried. It's so hard to explain,
Speaker 4: like I knew. I just knew something was wrong. My
Speaker 4: parents were at our house, and I told him, like,
Speaker 4: something's not okay, and the feeling was just so strong,
Speaker 4: and he wasn't answering me. I kept calling his phone,
Speaker 4: and eventually a police officer answered and told me to
Speaker 4: come to the police station. And it was later that
Speaker 4: night that they confirmed that Jared had been killed.
Speaker 3: It's just a tremendous losstery in your family, and I'm
Speaker 3: very very sorry.
Speaker 6: One of the things I loved and missed most about him,
Speaker 6: which might sound strange, are his hands. Like he just
Speaker 6: had such strong hands. And I know that that probably
Speaker 6: sounds so weird to everyone, but like after Jared died,
Speaker 6: that was like the one thing that I really wanted
Speaker 6: was I just wanted to hold his hand again.
Speaker 8: Yeah, just like we held hands, like I felt safe.
Speaker 8: Like that's the type of feeling and strengths that I
Speaker 8: got from him.
Speaker 3: Can you tell us a little bit about Jared, just
Speaker 3: like who he was like as a person, I.
Speaker 4: Would say a big driving portion and everything that he did.
Speaker 4: But how do I make memory as a family. So
Speaker 4: he was the type of dad that when it was
Speaker 4: raining and we would often build little boats out of
Speaker 4: hot clue and toothpick and then we would go outside
Speaker 4: and float them down, you know, the the curb, the
Speaker 4: gutter where the water flows.
Speaker 6: He absolutely loved to do things with the kids. He
Speaker 6: and the kids had discovered a show called kraft Topia.
Speaker 6: It's like a kid's crafting competition, and the kids were
Speaker 6: really into it, and so Jared decided that we were
Speaker 6: going to have our own craft Topia competition with Leam
Speaker 6: and Abby. So we set the garage up with different
Speaker 6: stations filled with craft supplies that we got at the
Speaker 6: dollar store in Walmart, Like we just had crafts everywhere,
Speaker 6: and then Jared filmed it.
Speaker 8: He like made this short little episode movie.
Speaker 6: About them doing this competition, and like he just lived
Speaker 6: for making memories as a family, Like that is what
Speaker 6: brought him the most joy is seeing his kids, all
Speaker 6: of his kids and us bond and make memories that
Speaker 6: would last a lifetime.
Speaker 8: And I think his background, you know, coming from a divorce,
Speaker 8: just furthered that desire to like utilize the time that
Speaker 8: he did have with his oldest two to really bond
Speaker 8: and make good memories together.
Speaker 3: Jared's brother Adam also remembers him as creative and strong.
Speaker 5: It's funny to hear Kirsen share about creating those boats
Speaker 5: in the rain, because we used to be that as kids.
Speaker 5: We grew up in North Carolina. We were a very
Speaker 5: very middle class family. You got four siblings and two
Speaker 5: parents who worked a lot, and so it was kind
Speaker 5: of us just as kids just playing out in the
Speaker 5: neighborhood trying to figure out what we're going to do.
Speaker 5: Jared was always the creative one, and so we used
Speaker 5: to hang out with our friends, roam the street, but
Speaker 5: no one messed with Jared because you know, he was
Speaker 5: just he actually was a phenomenal wrestler because he was
Speaker 5: just naturally strong, you know. After wrestling, kind of just
Speaker 5: gravitated towards the arts and was just again creative. Love technology.
Speaker 5: Jared and I got to actually work together at one
Speaker 5: of the companies I invested in and was able to
Speaker 5: actually bring Jared over and he kind of headed up
Speaker 5: the technology for the company and he would go out
Speaker 5: and he'd build them, and his coworkers loved him because
Speaker 5: he would just figure things out.
Speaker 3: What did he do, like what was his job?
Speaker 4: But he joined Microsoft in October. He was a senior
Speaker 4: design manager. He just managed designers, helped them to come
Speaker 4: up with, Hey, how can we improve the design of
Speaker 4: this product to make it easier for users to understand
Speaker 4: and use?
Speaker 3: Okay, So he wouldn't have exposed like some accounting you
Speaker 3: know air. It wouldn't have been that kind of job
Speaker 3: like where Okay.
Speaker 4: No, not at all.
Speaker 5: One of the main reasons why Jared wanted to actually
Speaker 5: join Microsoft because him saying, hey, like now that we're
Speaker 5: having London, like it would be awesome if you know,
Speaker 5: Kirsen didn't have to work full time, and so he's like,
Speaker 5: so I'm going to start interviewing. But he really wanted
Speaker 5: Kirsen to be able to not have to work at
Speaker 5: Microsoft and help with the kids. And I know that
Speaker 5: that was a paramount to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I had actually resigned from my position like
Speaker 4: a month before. Actually he's less than a month. It
Speaker 4: was less than a month before he was killed.
Speaker 7: Jared sounds like this really nice, cool, smart guy. He's
Speaker 7: got a really good job. So it doesn't seem like
Speaker 7: he was in any line of danger or his work
Speaker 7: involved him in anything particularly shady.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he sounds like he was a really good
Speaker 3: dad too. He had a challenge of raising twins that
Speaker 3: he split with his first wife, in addition to the
Speaker 3: two kids he had with Kirsten. But it still sounds
Speaker 3: like it was a really like happy and loving environment.
Speaker 7: It sounds like they were making the best of it, right.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned earlier on the day of the incident,
Speaker 2: you had a gut feeling. Can you what do you
Speaker 2: what do you mean, what was that gut feeling?
Speaker 4: It's so hard to describe. I just got this feeling
Speaker 4: like something's not right. I look over at the clock
Speaker 4: and that's when I'm like, you should be home. And
Speaker 4: then my Mom's like okay, because she could tell I
Speaker 4: was getting a little not agitated that like not I
Speaker 4: was uneasy. I was like, he's usually back by now. No,
Speaker 4: like in my soul, I just I don't know how
Speaker 4: to say it, like I knew, like something is very wrong.
Speaker 4: And and once I got in the car and started
Speaker 4: driving and he wasn't answering like I knew, and I
Speaker 4: told my mom I said I think he did, like
Speaker 4: I just knew. And then when the police officer answered
Speaker 4: and wouldn't respond to my question about is my husband okay,
Speaker 4: I just said, please come to the Jacksonville Beach Police Department.
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, well there's my answer, And especially
Speaker 4: when I said is my daughter okay? And I said
Speaker 4: she's okay, So I'm like all right. So they confirmed
Speaker 4: Bexley's fine. They will not say anything about Jared. But
Speaker 4: once they started asking me what clothes he was wearing
Speaker 4: and did he have any markings on his body, that
Speaker 4: type of stuff. I was like, yep, no, that's exactly
Speaker 4: what it was. In my gut, I knew. And it's
Speaker 4: almost like Jared was there kind of warning me, like, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gone, just kind of giving me that
Speaker 4: pre warning, Like I honestly think he just kind of
Speaker 4: wanted to prep me for before some random person who's
Speaker 4: never met told me the news.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7: This is the first time I'd heard about Jared's case
Speaker 7: and doing this podcast, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 7: the information that I kind of took at face value
Speaker 7: prima phasia was from media reports and it kind of
Speaker 7: seems slanted one way. But then after talking to Kirsten,
Speaker 7: you kind of get a really big impression that he
Speaker 7: was targeted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially since like the tire is put right in
Speaker 3: front of his car basically, and there was nothing stolen.
Speaker 3: There was nothing taken from the vehicle, you know, his wallet,
Speaker 3: all his possessions.
Speaker 7: But we still want to go through the research process
Speaker 7: and see if it could be something else, like a
Speaker 7: car jacking or a road rage incident. Let's stop here
Speaker 7: for a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be back in a moment.
Speaker 3: What can you tell me about the road Is this
Speaker 3: like a normal road that people would go down, or
Speaker 3: is it like isolated?
Speaker 4: Typically when there's traffic, this is faster than going on
Speaker 4: the big multiple lane roads to get to the Highway.
Speaker 4: So it is a very very common route for our
Speaker 4: family and especially Jared, right, Like.
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm trying to ask, is is it
Speaker 3: something like a stranger would know he would be on
Speaker 3: that road if he's coming back from her house, or
Speaker 3: would it be something that only people that have intimate
Speaker 3: details about Jared would know.
Speaker 4: I firmly believe that there are only three people outside
Speaker 4: of Jared who knew that that was his route, and
Speaker 4: that's myself, his ex wife and her husband.
Speaker 3: Did they look at the tire to see what kind
Speaker 3: of car it came from or anything like that?
Speaker 4: They confirmed it was from a Ford f one point fifty.
Speaker 3: And you think that that was placed there intentionally to
Speaker 3: get him to stop?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Yes? And the police have confirmed they believe it was
Speaker 4: a targeted Oh they did own word targeted attack. They
Speaker 4: believe this was specific for Jared.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm so sorry, like truly, that's just terrible.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 3: And your daughter was with him, and how old is she?
Speaker 4: She was two and a half oh my gosh. And
Speaker 4: so we we had a black Volkswagen Atlas, the three
Speaker 4: row vehicle. She was in the second row, and there
Speaker 4: are bullet holes in the car. So it's actually very
Speaker 4: lucky that she wasn't struck by one of the bullets
Speaker 4: that went through the vehicle.
Speaker 2: The tire is the big piece.
Speaker 4: Of evidence, right, Yes, the tire. And they also caught
Speaker 4: surveillance footage of a Ford F one fifty in the
Speaker 4: area that they believe could be connected.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm going with it. I'm looking at images
Speaker 2: from that security video. So I owned a Ford F
Speaker 2: one safety. I know where the spare tire is. It's
Speaker 2: in the back underneath the bed. You have to go
Speaker 2: underneath and unscore school. But I don't think the spare
Speaker 2: tire matches four existing tires the knife rooms.
Speaker 5: It's just a spare tire.
Speaker 2: So the image I see of a tire, it looks
Speaker 2: like one of the tires that would have been on
Speaker 2: the vehicle itself. Now that doesn't mean somebody could have
Speaker 2: taken the spare off, do it on and left this there,
Speaker 2: But I mean the tire looks deflated.
Speaker 3: And I looked at the spare tire, did you look
Speaker 3: at it or not the spare, but the tire in
Speaker 3: the middle of the road.
Speaker 2: I saw the picture of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, was the air let out or did somebody stab
Speaker 1: the sidewalls.
Speaker 2: With the knife?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I want to talk about because it
Speaker 3: looks to me like there's like eight punctures in this tire.
Speaker 1: That was my initial impression. But eight eight is overkill.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't need like one or two would let all there.
Speaker 1: What I'm thinking is is if they let the air
Speaker 1: out of the tire, that's what happens. That's what the tire.
Speaker 2: The sidewalls kind of get that roop.
Speaker 3: Like it dimples.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did they say like they're like nice stabbings in
Speaker 2: the sidewalk of the tire? Was just the airlet out?
Speaker 2: Do you know any of that?
Speaker 4: They haven't told me any of that, but they did
Speaker 4: say that the truck photos there is it does look
Speaker 4: like a spare or a different if a tire without
Speaker 4: a rim is on one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So of the four tires, one of them doesn't
Speaker 2: match the other three. It looks like somebody may have
Speaker 2: taken off the original tire and put the spare tire on.
Speaker 2: Yet that's where I'm going with it. There is a
Speaker 2: connection to this tire. There is maybe some connection to
Speaker 2: the security camera video of an F one fifty in
Speaker 2: the area. Obviously the big piece of evidence at the
Speaker 2: scene is this tire. So yeah, like the big connection.
Speaker 2: Do you know, is it like hard to find the
Speaker 2: exact location where this happened? Is it like there's notress
Speaker 2: so like there's a building nearby? Right, That's the biggest
Speaker 2: thing for me. I want to look in the area
Speaker 2: and see and things like that. So that's what I
Speaker 2: would like to see. If you could send that to us,
Speaker 2: that would be great, just what we can get the
Speaker 2: lay of the land and see where everything was at.
Speaker 2: It's creepy to think maybe somebody snuck up on him
Speaker 2: or who knows, maybe their car was on the side
Speaker 2: of the road. So yeah, that would be my big thing,
Speaker 2: a location. And do you believe that F one fifty
Speaker 2: in the security video is tied to Jared's incident?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I trust their judgment on that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that tire is going to have a ton of
Speaker 7: information or at best a fingerprint that the forensics can
Speaker 7: take off and run through a database and connect it
Speaker 7: to somebody who may own that vehicle.
Speaker 3: Because there's going to be like a manufacturing stamp of
Speaker 3: some kind, a serial number, a lot number something.
Speaker 2: How is Jared found another vehicle? Was it law enforcement?
Speaker 4: Driving by the road where huge shot is kind of
Speaker 4: in the middle of a neighborhood. It's just this one
Speaker 4: stretch where it's wooded one there's a curb on the
Speaker 4: edge of the streets. You can't like go around things.
Speaker 4: There's trees, street signs. So people heard the shots. At
Speaker 4: least a couple of neighbors called nine online reporting gunshots,
Speaker 4: and then some other cars that pulled up within you.
Speaker 4: Bexley was alone before she was pulled from the vehicle
Speaker 4: for over three minutes, so it took at least three
Speaker 4: minutes for someone else to physically be on the scene,
Speaker 4: although neighbors had called nine to one one reporting the gunshots.
Speaker 4: I know a bystander pulled Bexley from the car just
Speaker 4: over three minutes after the gunshots were caught by cameras
Speaker 4: in the area.
Speaker 3: Do you know if they've looked at like ringing cameras
Speaker 3: and you know, things like that, Yeah, they.
Speaker 4: Did canvass the area. Some people gave video. That's how
Speaker 4: they knew exactly what time the gunshots were fired. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 4: the police department is really close to his exit's house,
Speaker 4: so one of those images that's been shared is from
Speaker 4: their own camera. The police department.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, this is very active, so we have
Speaker 3: to be a little careful.
Speaker 7: So there seems like there's a lot to go on.
Speaker 7: There was a lot of evidence laughed at the scene.
Speaker 7: The police can use this information to hopefully track down
Speaker 7: the person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there we still have a lot of questions
Speaker 3: about the area, and it really helps to have Kirsten
Speaker 3: walk us through it.
Speaker 4: The spot where he was, from my understanding, is between
Speaker 4: there's a street sign on one side and there's a
Speaker 4: tree directly on the other. So where the tire was
Speaker 4: from my understanding, was right in between those two things
Speaker 4: on the side. So even if he went over the curbs,
Speaker 4: he couldn't go around it.
Speaker 3: It looked narrow, but it's just a one lane going
Speaker 3: one way and the other lane on the other side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that road splits one side and there's like a
Speaker 2: median down the middle. That's why I was like, why
Speaker 2: didn't he just drive around the tire?
Speaker 4: Now I understand now that makes me yes, Yeah, so
Speaker 4: it's that yellow stop sign, yellow warning of a stop
Speaker 4: sign sign and then the tree over on the other side.
Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of trees and palm trees
Speaker 2: and foliage for somebody to hide out if they wanted
Speaker 2: to write.
Speaker 4: I believe there's a fence along. So this is too Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is twenty nineteen. I think there's a fence that's
Speaker 4: also up. You see those houses through the trees. I
Speaker 4: believe there's a fence there today.
Speaker 3: And this is like my last question, but like a
Speaker 3: couple of days after Jared I was murdered, there was
Speaker 3: somebody like peeping up around your house or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe it was a week after I had
Speaker 4: I was talking Bexley in the bed, so it's like
Speaker 4: seven after seven pm that night. I don't remember the
Speaker 4: exact time I could look. And I got a not
Speaker 4: occasion on my Apple watched the person in the driveway
Speaker 4: and I was like what, So I grabbed my phone
Speaker 4: and I looked and it's it's so blurry. I've gotten
Speaker 4: different cameras sens then, because it's just horrible footage, but
Speaker 4: it was. The video was analyzed by a special unit
Speaker 4: and they confirmed that it is human. So a lot
Speaker 4: of people are like, oh, maybe it's a moth or
Speaker 4: you know, something on the camera or whatever. But it
Speaker 4: was confirmed by this specialized team that it is a
Speaker 4: human figure. So it was coming from across the front
Speaker 4: of my garage and then cut across the corner of
Speaker 4: the house and disappeared.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I can't imagine. Let's stop here for
Speaker 3: another quick break. When I went to bed the night
Speaker 3: we spoke with Kirsten, his wife, I was thinking about
Speaker 3: the ambush. I could not stop thinking about it. So
Speaker 3: Jared was shot, and he was shot multiple times from
Speaker 3: roughly three to four feet away. The neighbor heard the
Speaker 3: shots from across the street. He didn't hear anything else
Speaker 3: at all. There were no arguments or raised voices. So
Speaker 3: the cops have basically said that he was ambushed, meaning
Speaker 3: that he literally just stopped, He turned his hazards on,
Speaker 3: opened up his door, got out, and was shot and
Speaker 3: there were bullet holes in the car door. The car
Speaker 3: had been struck by gunfire, and I verified that with
Speaker 3: an article from news for Jack's It's like a local detective.
Speaker 3: Sergeant David Young with the Jacksonville Police Department said Bride
Speaker 3: again was shot to death next to the driver door
Speaker 3: of his SUV, which was also struck by gunfire. So
Speaker 3: I don't know how many shots hit Jared, and I
Speaker 3: don't know how many shots were in the car. There's
Speaker 3: a lot I don't know. But there are things that
Speaker 3: I do know. Are that a tire was in the
Speaker 3: middle of the road. Jared couldn't get around it. This
Speaker 3: is according to official reports, and he had to stop
Speaker 3: and get out to move the tire. And here's the thing,
Speaker 3: this is what I couldn't stop thinking about. You asked
Speaker 3: me what I was thinking about? Right, How do we
Speaker 3: know that the tire was placed there? How do we
Speaker 3: know he was targeted? How do we know it wasn't
Speaker 3: a car that was there?
Speaker 1: Or was there a tire in the road with the
Speaker 1: vehicle and a person acting like they had a flat
Speaker 1: tire they were replacing. Jared gets out of the car,
Speaker 1: person working on the said flat tire, stands up close out,
Speaker 1: a gun shoots him right, gets back in the car
Speaker 1: and drives off, but leaves the tire there. So I
Speaker 1: think that's the theory of the ambush.
Speaker 3: Theory, right, Or was somebody like hiding in the woods
Speaker 3: and place the tire when they knew Jared was coming.
Speaker 3: Here's what I can let go of. If it was
Speaker 3: somebody targeted targeting him, like they want Jared, they would
Speaker 3: have to be in communication with one to two other people.
Speaker 3: Like he's coming now, he just turned down Fitz Street.
Speaker 3: He just turned down Jacksonville Drive. He'll be there in
Speaker 3: two minutes. Nobody's behind him, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's coordinated right?
Speaker 3: Either that or did they use like an air tag
Speaker 3: to follow him? Yeah, like did when he was eating
Speaker 3: ice cream on his date night while they were eating
Speaker 3: ice cream? Did somebody AirTag Jared's car? Did they look
Speaker 3: for air tags on the atlas, the Volkswagen Atliss Did
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, how did they know
Speaker 3: Jared was coming in that there were no cars behind him?
Speaker 1: That's the million dollar question right now. And nothing was stolen,
Speaker 1: Nothing was stolen out of the vehicle, nothing was stolen
Speaker 1: off with Jared's person.
Speaker 3: It was just it was an assassination, right.
Speaker 1: It appears to be an execution style of assassination. And
Speaker 1: from what we know so far, from the time the
Speaker 1: neighbors heard gunshot to the time police showed up, it
Speaker 1: was a very short amount of time. It was within
Speaker 1: five ten minutes.
Speaker 3: The daughter that was in the backseat. This is something
Speaker 3: else I couldn't stop thinking about. I got on my
Speaker 3: watch and I did stop a timer for three minutes.
Speaker 3: She sat there for three minutes before a neighbor came
Speaker 3: and grabbed.
Speaker 1: Her out of the vehicle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of the vehicle. She sat there for three minutes.
Speaker 2: She's in a.
Speaker 1: Car seat while while this all transpired.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking about that a lot. And I
Speaker 3: woke up the next morning and I found a subreddit
Speaker 3: dedicated to this, and I found a Facebook group dedicated
Speaker 3: to this. There is a lot on the internet about this,
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: This happened in February of twenty twenty two, so this
Speaker 1: is relatively new. It's an open case, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot out there for a short period of times. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of public interest in this case because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of relationship that goes along with this. And
Speaker 1: and every time I go back to so we were
Speaker 1: sent like a Google map pendpoint of where it happened,
Speaker 1: it's like every time I look at about like, that's
Speaker 1: the perfect location if you were going to do something,
Speaker 1: that would be it right.
Speaker 3: I totally agree. I walked to the neighborhood and Google maps,
Speaker 3: and I was trying to figure out if somebody put
Speaker 3: a tire in the middle of the road, where would
Speaker 3: they put the truck. My understanding of the the way
Speaker 3: the police view this crime scene is that the truck
Speaker 3: was not on the road, just the tire right, So
Speaker 3: somebody is hiding in the wooded area off to the right.
Speaker 3: They run to the middle street, drop the tire, run
Speaker 3: back to the wooded area, wait for Jared to park
Speaker 3: his car, and then walk out and shoot him, and
Speaker 3: then run back through the wooded area to the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Sanctuary Way is the neighborhood right next to the wooded
Speaker 3: air and there is parking on the street in a
Speaker 3: cul de sac, and then drive away. The police have
Speaker 3: released images of a truck that they're looking for in
Speaker 3: relation to this crime, and the truck appears to have
Speaker 3: a spare tire on.
Speaker 1: It, and so the tire that was left isn't a
Speaker 1: spare tire, it's the tire that would be on one
Speaker 1: of the regular tires. But police and their investigation came
Speaker 1: across some security camera footage that shows a four f
Speaker 1: one fifty and out of the four tires. One appears
Speaker 1: to be a spare, so it kind of fits in that. Well, right,
Speaker 1: maybe this is the truck that's related, because the tire
Speaker 1: laying in the road is the one that would have
Speaker 1: been on here if the spare tire wasn't there. How
Speaker 1: stupid would a person be to use the tire from
Speaker 1: the truck they're driving? I know, I know, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the thing I know. So I mean, you've gone
Speaker 1: through all of this plan to do this, the timing
Speaker 1: and all that. Are you going to use it tire
Speaker 1: from your eh? It just seems odd?
Speaker 3: John, Oh my god, I need to tell you about this. John.
Speaker 3: This is like a really weird coincidence and it shows
Speaker 3: like behavior patterns that are kind of scary. So I
Speaker 3: really think Kirsten needs to be alerted to this, if
Speaker 3: she's not already.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, let's call her.
Speaker 3: Hi, Kirsten. I read something earlier today. It was very strange.
Speaker 3: It was about Jared's ex wife, Shana's husband, Mario. It
Speaker 3: was about him killing cats.
Speaker 4: I actually didn't know that until it was recorded by
Speaker 4: that new source. So that was a surprise to me,
Speaker 4: and I have not been surprised by much that was
Speaker 4: in surprise to me.
Speaker 3: The thing that stood out to me, John, was that
Speaker 3: not only is he possibly killing cats, but he's doing
Speaker 3: it in a really inhumane way. Listen, I'm jumping to
Speaker 3: conclude here, please, you know, like keep this in mind,
Speaker 3: but almost like he wants the cats to suffer, you know,
Speaker 3: like die slowly. So that really stood out to me,
Speaker 3: and that's why I wanted to ask about it. I
Speaker 3: didn't know if you had any inside information. We'll definitely
Speaker 3: get into that too, because you know, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: deviant behavior, right, and it shows like a lack of
Speaker 3: empathy that you would need in order to do this
Speaker 3: kind of like cold blood of killing. And we have
Speaker 3: lots of experience with that particular issue. More on that
Speaker 3: next time.
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