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Speaker 1: It's very interesting some of the developments that we have

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Speaker 1: far more, we have far more evidence of collusion. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: it's incontrovertible where the Ukrainians working with the Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: have with the media narrative about Russia Trump Trump, Russia collusion,

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Speaker 1: Steel issue, and that's the Russian dossier, the hookers you're in.

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Speaker 1: or the fact if it's so bad for governments to

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Speaker 1: January eleven, this year, headline Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire.

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Speaker 1: the Donald Trump junior email Kennedy. Okay, Donald Trump Junior

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Speaker 1: O'Brien Wills. They work at the Conspiracy Network, thousands of

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Speaker 1: to this, Andrew mitchell I said earlier, no public events

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Speaker 1: And the headline is Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire.

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Speaker 1: concerted or centrally directed. Blah blah blah blah blah. Now

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Speaker 1: to say the Ukrainian antipathy or hatred for Trump's team

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Speaker 1: is now chronicled. That they publicly questioned Trump's fitness for office.

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Speaker 1: They disseminated documents implicating some of of Trump's team, suggesting

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Speaker 1: You have a meeting that took place at the Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: involvement in this race. Is is almost overwhelming and incontrovertible

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Speaker 1: and how the d n C operative that's being paid

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Speaker 1: Los Angela chollop a lady. Okay, so that actually took place.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it. How many of you know? I

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Speaker 1: tweeted this out yesterday, that wiki leaks and leaked information.

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Speaker 1: I don't like wiki leaks. Okay, excuse me. They've never

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Speaker 1: been proven wrong in eleven years. That shows Hillary Clinton's

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Speaker 1: campaign discussed the private, off the record meeting with the

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Speaker 1: Chinese ambassador. Oh was that the clue too? Should we

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Speaker 1: be investigating put her putting under oaths? Should we accuse

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Speaker 1: you know, all of these same people of the very

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Speaker 1: things they're they're saying about Donald Trump Jr. Do you

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Speaker 1: realize all of the double standard? It's nauseating on so

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Speaker 1: many different levels. On top of it, any attorney, including

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Speaker 1: let's say, Jonathan Turley and and Alan Dershowitz, Greg Jarrett,

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Speaker 1: my colleague at Fox who's gonna join us late, he

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Speaker 1: Oh excuse me. Uh yeah, there's no collusion and it's

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Speaker 1: not a crime none whatsoever. You know, it is a

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Speaker 1: huge double standard, and it's not the only double standard,

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Speaker 1: and there's so many other cases of of of the

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Speaker 1: Democrats acting this way, but it doesn't seem to matter

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Speaker 1: agenda and they're passing their agenda no matter what. The

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Speaker 1: Russian lawyer who torpedoed Trump Junior met with Obama officials.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody care about that she seated in the front

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Speaker 1: row directly behind the former ambassador mcpaul at the House

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Speaker 1: Foreign Affairs Committee, that that picture is in existence, Dershowitz,

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Speaker 1: nothing illegal and Trump Junior meeting with a Russian lawyer.

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Speaker 1: On the Russian lawyer's Facebook page, he puts in all

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Speaker 1: the things that she's been interested in, and why did

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Speaker 1: she get the exemption? It's another big issue. And you know,

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Speaker 1: what did Hillary know about Russian interference? It's another question

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Speaker 1: we have yet to get answered in all of this

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Speaker 1: all one big propaganda, misinformation, lying conspiracy. It's a It's

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Speaker 1: has been and continues to be a witch hunt. It's

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Speaker 1: the only way to describe it. What else can you

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Speaker 1: possibly call this? You know, there's is there anything in

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example, I mean Tim Kane suggesting,

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Speaker 1: well that's treason. Well, the chalupa commit treason meeting with

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainians and then disseminating that information to the d

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Speaker 1: isn't at war with Russian and then not at war

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Speaker 1: with the Ukraine. Even if the president's son received information

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Speaker 1: There's no such crime relating to political campaigns. The only

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Speaker 1: this little trick on TV this morning, is that they

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Speaker 1: means of well that you know, no campaign can solicit

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Speaker 1: and or receive foreign donations. It's prohibited. Is if that's

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Speaker 1: a criminal statute, which it is not. His information a

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Speaker 1: thing of value. One could attempt to make the argument,

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Speaker 1: but you know it hasn't been interpreted that way. It's

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Speaker 1: it at best, which is all they could probably hope

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Speaker 1: for here. You know, it's um, these are amazing times

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Speaker 1: we're living in. I can tell you that they really

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Speaker 1: going to change anytime soon. I just think this goes

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Speaker 1: I just don't see when the Democrats stopping any of this.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a great piece out by my

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Speaker 1: explain the difference how Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia

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Speaker 1: disinformation came in the form of all of that from

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Speaker 1: the dossier. It's a phony dossier and it was paid

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Speaker 1: for in part by this Christopher old guy who was

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Speaker 1: the former intelligence agent in Great Britain. And how Steele

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Speaker 1: makes clear that has unproven charges came almost exclusively from

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Speaker 1: sources linked to the Kremlin and Vladimir Putin, and he

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Speaker 1: identified his sources as senior Russian Foreign ministry figures and

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Speaker 1: a top level Russian intelligence officer, and the same Democrats

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Speaker 1: who have condemned Russia's election interference via you know, applying

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Speaker 1: fake news and hacking email servers. In other words, his

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Speaker 1: public evidence of collusion between the Democrats and Russian disinformation,

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Speaker 1: because if anyone conluded with the Russian it was the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Why is that because well, of course this goes back

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Speaker 1: to the Fusion GPS story, and the entire Tassier sho

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Speaker 1: never have been made public, and Fusion GPS, a Democratic

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Speaker 1: front group, was responsible for all of it. Nine four one,

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Speaker 1: Shaun is a number. You want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the program, All right when we come back, Sarah Carter,

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett j Secular all coming up in an next hour,

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Speaker 1: the news round Up, Information Overload, Well more of my

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Speaker 1: exclusive inter of you with Don Trump Jr. And your calls.

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Speaker 1: Eight nine for one, Sean, Glad you're with us. Let's

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Speaker 1: go into the meeting, all right, So you need a

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Speaker 1: Trump Tower, Yes, Okay, The meeting was described earlier today

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Speaker 1: on the Today Show. Did she described accurately? But I

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Speaker 1: think fairly accurately. I mean I was a little taken

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Speaker 1: back by her saying, you know, talking about me pressing

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Speaker 1: for the information. But as you can see from the emails,

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Speaker 1: the pretext of the meeting was, hey, we have information.

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Speaker 1: And there was you know, some small high I don't

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Speaker 1: even remember what it was. It just was sort of nonsensical,

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Speaker 1: could possibly help. And really that's what we shut it down,

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Speaker 1: which is, wait a second, what does this have to

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Speaker 1: do with you the well, I've never even heard of

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Speaker 1: it before, you know, that day, Uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it became pretty apparent to you know, Jared and Paul,

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Speaker 1: who I think Jared left after a few minutes. Paul

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Speaker 1: got yeah, yeah, you were remember that we were all there.

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Speaker 1: I was basically sitting there listening as a courtesy to

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Speaker 1: my acquaintance who had set up the meeting, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, in his own words, you can hear what

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Speaker 1: he said. Uh. And you played it earlier about it,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you apologized to me walking out of the

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Speaker 1: meeting basically for wasting my time. Well, and he did

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Speaker 1: say at the end of your statement today you did

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Speaker 1: point out as goals Stone said today, the entire meeting

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Speaker 1: was the most in nane nonsense I've ever heard, and actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, agitated by it. And he called it, he

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Speaker 1: called it, apologized to you know that guy. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: really follow up because there's nothing there to follow up.

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Speaker 1: As we were walking out, he said, listen, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: for that, but I think what happened he's sort of

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Speaker 1: goose stuff. He built up. There was some puffery to

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Speaker 1: the email, perhaps to get the meeting, to make it happen,

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Speaker 1: and so, uh, you know, there is nothing there, all right.

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Speaker 1: That was more of my exclusive interview with Donald Trump Jr.

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Speaker 1: And what has become a media hysterical. Yeah, it's unbelievable

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Speaker 1: the double standard that exists, especially as it relates to

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Speaker 1: what we now know about the Ukrainian it's to sabotage

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the last election, and how they work

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Speaker 1: at a pretty high level, trying to not only get

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Speaker 1: and Russia. And you know, we now have evidence of

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Speaker 1: But she occasionally was sharing all of her find is

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign officials and said that you know, when it

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Speaker 1: came to the Trump campaign, I felt there was a

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Speaker 1: Russian connection, and she was working with them almost on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis, and she's meeting with the Ukraine's ambassador

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Speaker 1: to the US, among other things. And as she claims

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Speaker 1: they in fact took place. You hear very little to

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Speaker 1: nothing about it. Anyway. Our to Sean Hannity Show, eight

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Speaker 1: nine one. Seawan is a number. Sarah Carter is a

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Speaker 1: senior editor at Circle dot com. Greg Jarrett is a

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Speaker 1: Fox News legal analysts attorney who has been all over

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Speaker 1: all of these issues. Welcome both of you back to

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Speaker 1: the program. All right, let me start with the I

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Speaker 1: guess the first legal question. I'll throw it to you

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett. Um, you watched I hope you watched Don

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Speaker 1: Junior last night. And is there anything at all, in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape, matter of form, legally that he has

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Speaker 1: to worry about? Absolutely nothing. He acquitted himself nicely. You

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Speaker 1: asked all the right questions, he responded appropriately. As the treason,

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Speaker 1: that's preposterous. We're not at war with Russia, so that's

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Speaker 1: just a silly accusation by Senator Tim Cain and some others.

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Speaker 1: As for collusion, there is no such a crime of

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Speaker 1: collusion and a political campaign. It's only antitrust law. There

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Speaker 1: is uh sort of a tangential law that says you

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Speaker 1: can't conspire with somebody else to obstruct a government function,

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Speaker 1: i e. An election. But when you read the statute

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Speaker 1: that requires deceit and dishonesty, simply receiving information doesn't constitute

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Speaker 1: those two things, so that doesn't apply. And finally, the

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Speaker 1: Federal Election Campaign Act. You know, foreigners are not allowed

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Speaker 1: to donate to campaigns, but providing information specifically under the

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Speaker 1: law is not a donation. It's called a personal service.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, foreign nationals are allowed to volunteer their

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Speaker 1: personal services to a campaigns. They do it all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you bring all this up because I was

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Speaker 1: watching some of the morning shows this morning and they

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Speaker 1: all opened with my interview with Donald Trump Jr. And

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Speaker 1: it was hard to watch j Seculo on CBS, NBC

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Speaker 1: suggest the way they cited the FBC Campaign Act Graig,

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Speaker 1: you know, soliciting receiving foreign donations prohibited. They tried to

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Speaker 1: make it sound like it's a criminal act, and it's

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Speaker 1: not a criminal code issue, now, it's not. Look, campaign

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Speaker 1: election laws are rarely the subject of criminal prosecutions only

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of cases you're just as you point out,

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Speaker 1: Sean civil violations resulting in fines. But again both Trump

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Speaker 1: Junior and the Russian lawyer agree no information related to

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Speaker 1: the presidential campaign was ever conveyed, and so that makes

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Speaker 1: that statute totally inapplicable. All right, now, let's go Sarah

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Speaker 1: if we can to this whole issue with the Ukrainians,

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Speaker 1: the d n C, the Killary Clinton campaign, and I

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Speaker 1: think one of the main things that we've got to

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Speaker 1: focus on here is that all of the work, research

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Speaker 1: and meetings that went on by this d n C

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Speaker 1: operative was being paid by the d n C and

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Speaker 1: her sharing her findings with the d n C and

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Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign. It sounds far more extensive, or far

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Speaker 1: more extensive case of collusion directly related to the Clinton

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Speaker 1: campaign and the d n C to defeat Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: and impact our elections than any information we have to

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Speaker 1: date about the conspiracy theories we've now heard for eleven months.

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Speaker 1: It was Sean, Yeah, you have a point there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're looking at. We have seen what

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Speaker 1: Don Jr. Has brought for it. He put all of

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Speaker 1: his emails out there from this, and I think that

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Speaker 1: in itself is a point. If you think about this,

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Speaker 1: there was no information gained on his part to do anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so then that kind of excludes the Russian

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Speaker 1: government because why would the Russian government try to create

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Speaker 1: this big scenario to give Don JR. Information. I think

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Speaker 1: it was more of a bait and switch. I mean

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Speaker 1: she kind of went, you know, he was kind of

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Speaker 1: set up to go here what information he was going

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Speaker 1: to get on Hillary? But it was it was a

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Speaker 1: thing that she was lobbying for. She came in. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a big question. How did she get into

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Speaker 1: the country. What was this you know, special parole she received,

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Speaker 1: and who gave it to her? I think that's a

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Speaker 1: question that's going to answer a lot of things. Uh

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Speaker 1: So we thought answers, it's gonna answer a lot of

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Speaker 1: our questions. And when you look at Ukraine and in

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Speaker 1: and of itself, I mean the d n C was

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Speaker 1: looking for information on President Trump going to the Ukrainians,

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Speaker 1: going to Ukrainian government officials. We saw what Chalupa did.

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Speaker 1: She was looking for this information, she was going to

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Speaker 1: bring it back, you know, to the d n C.

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Speaker 1: So if you if you look at both sides, there's

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Speaker 1: far more evidence that d n C was working and

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Speaker 1: trying to get information from foreign government to you know,

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Speaker 1: as as their oppo research and to go after Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at both ends, if you're

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Speaker 1: looking at both sides of this, there's no real collusion anywhere.

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Speaker 1: People were just looking for information to go against their opponent.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't spoken to anyone yet who said that,

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Speaker 1: including Dr Richard Paynter, who is not a fan of

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Speaker 1: President Trump, but you know he's been out there saying

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Speaker 1: it that this does not appear in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form to be a collusion. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the Ukrainian issue, Greg Jarrett, Well, it's hypocrisy at

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Speaker 1: its worst among the media. They pay no attention to

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Speaker 1: the fact that Alexander Chelupa used the Ukrainian embassy reportedly

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Speaker 1: to gather dirt on the Trump campaign. Where's the outrage,

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Speaker 1: where's the equivalency? Doesn't exist? And that the underscores the

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Speaker 1: media bias against President Trump. The unabashed scorn and visceral

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Speaker 1: hatred they have for the president and the you know,

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Speaker 1: empathy for Hillary Rodham Clinton UM. And they have largely

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Speaker 1: ignored the story that was first broken more than two

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Speaker 1: years ago the New York Times about how cash flowed

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Speaker 1: to the Clinton Foundation after Hillary Clinton UM led the

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Speaker 1: way for the uranium, you know, the uranium one Russian deal,

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Speaker 1: a quid pro quo, if ever there was one, and

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Speaker 1: that to me smacks of a crime. And yet you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody seems to pay any attention to that. I actually feel, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: along with you and Greg and occasionally John Solomon, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to put him in this group UM

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Speaker 1: and and Jay Sekulo that were like voices in the

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Speaker 1: wilderness here. It's so evident, so transparent. It's the evidence

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Speaker 1: is so incontrovertible, because Greg is pointing out in the

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Speaker 1: in the uranium one deal, a hundred million dollars back

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Speaker 1: plus million dollars kicked back by the principles involved in

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Speaker 1: that deal, and giving a waiver one of nine. But

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Speaker 1: giving a waiver, you know, to allow Vladimir Putin to

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Speaker 1: have as much as access to our uranium is insanity

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Speaker 1: to me and and well, Sean, it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions that people are still asking

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Speaker 1: about this. I mean that the deal went through, it

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Speaker 1: was passed, it was it was approved, but there's still

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Speaker 1: a number of questions surrounding how the deal was approved,

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Speaker 1: what was going on on the back side the I mean,

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Speaker 1: the increase in speaking fees that went to uh former

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Speaker 1: President Bill Clinton when he went to Russia after that

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Speaker 1: deal was already struck. And there's a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: People within the FBI have similar questions that we're working

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Speaker 1: on these investigations. They were concerned about the fact that

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Speaker 1: none of this came forward, and and you're right, there

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Speaker 1: was no special prosecutor, no special investigation into anything that

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Speaker 1: had to do with Hillary Clinton, despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: a number of questions hadn't been answered, and a number

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Speaker 1: of people were very very concerned within law enforcement. So

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Speaker 1: I think and just because you know, John and I

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Speaker 1: have brought out these stories, but remember Politico also brought

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Speaker 1: out the story on Alexandra Chalupa. I mean, they were

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Speaker 1: the ones that first reported that that brought that forward.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, very few people and very few media

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Speaker 1: outlets pick that up. And even discussed it. All. Right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll come back more with Sarah Carter,

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Speaker 1: senior editor Circa dot Com, Greg Jarrett, my friend and

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Speaker 1: colleague at the Fox News Channel legal analyst. Right as

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Speaker 1: we continue, Sarah Carter, Senior editor Circa dot Com, Greg Jarrett,

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Speaker 1: my friend colleague from the Fox News Channel. And one

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Speaker 1: of the things we're trying to point out here, who

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Speaker 1: was this woman chill Oupa, because you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't know who she is now. She was

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Speaker 1: paid by the d n C. She was a consultant

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Speaker 1: for them. She worked in the Clinton White House, and

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Speaker 1: she was sharing these findings as she met with people

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Speaker 1: at the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington with the campaign. Clearly

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Speaker 1: the the Ukrainian government was trying to help Hillary, not

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and this story is barely covered. Um, you

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Speaker 1: have talked a lout about this woman in in the past,

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Speaker 1: and you seem to know a lot about a Sarah Carter. Well,

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Speaker 1: she's a Ukrainian American. I don't know. I know as

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Speaker 1: much as I know about um. I've never met with

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Speaker 1: Alexandra Chalupa. But she's a Ukrainian American and she was

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Speaker 1: working as a consultant for the Democratic National Committee, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we know. And so she she was really

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Speaker 1: pushing and advocating for the Ukrainians. And remember, at this

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Speaker 1: point in time, Ukraine was really looking for a partner,

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Speaker 1: somebody to kind of push against Russia's breach of what

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Speaker 1: they felt were there, you know, their borders, their livelihood,

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Speaker 1: their solidarity, and they thought that they could find that

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Speaker 1: in Hillary Clinton. So you know, it was a big

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Speaker 1: advantage for them. You know, people talk about Russia having

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Speaker 1: this great advantage in Trump. There was no real big

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Speaker 1: advantage for Russia because, in all honesty, Vladimir Putin really

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Speaker 1: didn't know how Trump was going to play out, especially

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Speaker 1: in foreign policy. It was a guessing game for him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he knew what he knew about Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't know a lot about Trump. One thing

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Speaker 1: is for sure, though, The Ukrainians felt that they could

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Speaker 1: rely on Hillary to supply them with military aid and

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Speaker 1: financial aid in Ukraine. So that is why they were

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Speaker 1: pushing so hard for her. And you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: just her, there were other counsels involved, different groups, think tanks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was real collusion here. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: no other way to put there was real evidence of collusion,

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Speaker 1: and yet we barely know about the American people haven't

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Speaker 1: heard about it because of the media bias. What about

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Speaker 1: these other issues, Greg Jarrett, We only have about a

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Speaker 1: minute left, you know, the V fifteen group using State

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Speaker 1: Department dollars, Obama's effort to unseat Prime Minister net and

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Speaker 1: Yahoo or Christopher Stile, the former intelligence officer from Great Britain,

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Speaker 1: and the phony dossier that was discredited and who was

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Speaker 1: paying him and why did James Comey want to pay

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Speaker 1: the guy and put him on the payroll and the

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Speaker 1: Iranium one deal, all these issues of outside influence barely

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Speaker 1: ever talked about in the mainstream media. How are they

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Speaker 1: similar to what is being alleged with no evidence in

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Speaker 1: the Trump Russia collusion insanity. Yeah, they're totally similar. And

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Speaker 1: except for the Iranium one deal, which looks to me

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Speaker 1: like a crime. Um, all of these other things are

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Speaker 1: not specifically prohibited by law, and maybe someday they will be,

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Speaker 1: but they're not. And look, one has to understand that

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Speaker 1: we try to interfere with foreign elections all the time

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Speaker 1: and uh, and of course foreign governments are forever trying

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Speaker 1: to influence our elections. The key here is that on

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Speaker 1: election day, no ballots were changed, um, no machines were

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Speaker 1: hacked and uh, and the voting wasn't unduly influenced on

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Speaker 1: election day. You know, his information passed between individuals and

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Speaker 1: Cup for Cup of course all the time the time.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta wake up and grow up. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have both of you on Hannity tonight ten eastern

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Speaker 1: on the Fox News Channel New King Rich as well,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about and lay out all of

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Speaker 1: the duplicity and the double standard in the media and

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Speaker 1: in certainly in Washington and elsewhere. Thank you both, Sarah

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Speaker 1: Carter and Greg Jarrett. Eight one sewn you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program when we come back.

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Speaker 1: We have the Chief Council for the American Center for

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Speaker 1: Law Injustice and the Council to the President, Jay Seculo.

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Speaker 1: He will respond to the Donald Trump Junior interview last night.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about this double standard with Ukraine

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Speaker 1: and V fifteen and all these other issues, and we'll

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Speaker 1: get to your calls and our news round up information

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Speaker 1: overload hour straight ahead. Right as we continue, let's play

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Speaker 1: more from last night and don Jr. And answering questions

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Speaker 1: about you know, whether or not he can't help if

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Speaker 1: somebody sends him an email, and I'd never put a

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Speaker 1: country in jeopardy and no follow ups with the Russian lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Let's play that tape. Let's start with the emails. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the first email. First of all, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about who is Rob Goldstone. Rob Goldstone is a talent

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Speaker 1: manager for IM and our glove, who's a Russian singer.

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Speaker 1: Performed at Miss Universe and later performed at a the

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Speaker 1: w g C Championship golf course, the tournament that we

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Speaker 1: held at d Row. All right, so they need no

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Speaker 1: I met him through that, through the golf course. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't even at the Miss Universe pageant, but I met

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Speaker 1: him through out there, so I had a casual relationship

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Speaker 1: with him. Okay, so he sends you this email, We'll

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Speaker 1: put it back up on the screen and give you

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Speaker 1: a chance to look at this are the one that

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Speaker 1: says the Crown Prosecutor of Russia met with his father,

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Speaker 1: meeting Emmon's father and in their meeting offered to provide

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign with documents information that could incriminate Hillary Clinton. Etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Obviously highly sensitive information, but as part of Russia and

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Speaker 1: its government supportive Mr Trump. Uh. And then they asked

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Speaker 1: the best way to handle this this email comes in?

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking? Honestly, my takeaway when all of

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Speaker 1: this was going on is that someone has information on

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Speaker 1: our opponent. Things are going a million miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's like to be on a campaign.

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Speaker 1: We just won Indiana, but we're talking about a contested convention.

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Speaker 1: Things are going a million miles an hour again, and hey,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, I've heard about all these things, but

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Speaker 1: maybe this is something I should hear him out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you read the parts about the Russian government or

851
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Speaker 1: Russia supporting your father, did that will put off any

852
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: sirens in your head? Honestly? I don't know. I mean

853
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: I think this was again just basic information that was

854
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: going to be possibly there. I didn't know these guys

855
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: well enough to understand that if this talent manager from

856
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: this universe, you know, had this kind of thing. So

857
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear him out and play it out

858
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: and see what happens. But you know, people are trying

859
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: to reach out to you you all the time. With us,

860
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: let me ask a hypothetical, and I hate hypothetical questions,

861
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: but I think it's relevant in this case. If the

862
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: meeting resulted in information that you felt in any way

863
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: was the illegal or compromising or collusion, to use the

864
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: media's term, I said it earlier a percent, I would

865
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: bring it of the proper authority. So there's nothing that

866
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: I would do to ever endanger in this country. I

867
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: think the reason we fought so hard, uh, during this campaign,

868
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: whether it was my father and the work that he

869
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: put into it, whether it was the rest of our

870
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: family and the efforts that we put into it, and

871
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: you know those efforts well, because we do anything for

872
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: this country. So we're never gonna put that in jeopardy

873
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: this as far as you know, or all the emails

874
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: that exist on this case, and you don't you don't

875
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: think there's any other one. Do not think there's anything else.

876
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: We've scared it thoroughly just to be sure, but there

877
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: isn't anything else there, all right. Uh. And there was

878
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: no follow up. I think this is important. No follow

879
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: up with any of them was such a nothing, there

880
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: was no reason to follow up. There was a waste

881
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: of time, all right. Joining us now the chief Council

882
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: for the American Center for Law and Justice, Jay Sekulo,

883
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: and also Council of the President UM. Overall, your reaction

884
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: to the interview with Don Junior last night or more importantly,

885
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: and you were on right afterwards the issue of legality,

886
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: and then we'll get into the whole double standard issue.

887
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: So well, first of all, I thought, I thought you

888
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: did a great job and asking the really tough and

889
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: comprehensive questions and left nothing left unturned in that regard.

890
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, I thought Donald Trump Juniors

891
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: responses were excellent. He acknowledged areas where he would do

892
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: things differently looking back, but he also pointed out that

893
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: this was in the in the moment of a campaign,

894
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: in the middle of a presidential campaign. Uh. The question

895
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: that you know some of the meeting followed up with

896
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: later and you have handled and asked about you know,

897
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: why didn't you talk to your father about this, meaning

898
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: to talk him about what meeting The meeting can produce

899
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: any results on anything, So you know, when you have

900
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: they've had, you can't imagine how many of these they

901
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: had in the course of the campaign. So I think, look,

902
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: I think he handled himself well I thought his statements

903
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: were were well received, and unlike Hillary Clinton, who deleted

904
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: thirty three thousand emails, he put all of his out there. Well,

905
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not that's that It's not a

906
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: small distinction here. Now, the president one of the things

907
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: I've been focused on pretty heavily today. The presidents weeted

908
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: out today why aren't the same standards placed on Democrats?

909
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: And look what Hillary may have gotten away with. And

910
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: he's referring to the Ukrainian government and d n C

911
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: officials collaborating in the Ukrainian government putting out disinformation, doing

912
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: research and meetings that took place at the Ukrainian embassy

913
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: and all the information passed on the Hillary claims campaign

914
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: and the d n C. You know, it's so interesting

915
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: about that. So I did a lot of interviews this

916
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: morning on this topic for the a repre counsel for

917
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: the President and were so interesting. Of one of the interviews, uh,

918
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: the host said, well, when I brought up the Ukrainian situation, goes, well,

919
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: that was different because that was the Ukraine and this

920
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: is Russia, as if a different legal standard would apply.

921
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: But you know, what has been fascinating to watch over

922
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. It's the near uniformity of

923
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: lawyers that have said there's no illegality here. I give it.

924
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Turley, I know, our colleague Greg Jared wrote about it.

925
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz wrote about it's nothing illegal in any of this.

926
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean even even Jeff Tuban yesterday said, oh,

927
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, could you look at some kind of

928
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: BC thing? Well that he did. Then he said, well,

929
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: that would be a real stretch. He said that as

930
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: he was on air. Well, it was funny because I

931
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: was watching you on the morning shows. By the way,

932
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: it's very hard to watch you on CBS, ABC and

933
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: NBC at the end are at the same time. What

934
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: do you mean You're sorry? I have no how did

935
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: you pull that off? So because you're my friend, you know, huh?

936
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: I was. It was very early morning for me and Jay.

937
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: You were on all three major networks at the same time.

938
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: It's impossible. No. I what happened was I literally taped

939
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: them at six six fifteen. I was Live with George Stephanopolis.

940
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: The others were just taping moments before. Unfortunately, um, we

941
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: had a gracious host at ABC that allowed me to

942
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: do it all out of there, so I which I

943
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um, well, they kind of do that. I mean,

944
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest, it's a very common practice when

945
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: they you know, when you're the hottest interview in the

946
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: country and they really are competitive, and you were the

947
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: hottest interview in the country. And well, let me ask

948
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: you this then, Senator Grassley, I think rightly. So he

949
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: wants to know why the Obama administration and granted this

950
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: Russian lawyer an immigration waiver number one, you know, and

951
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: and special permission to be in the United States. Why

952
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: is that. We'll go figure that out. I mean, you know,

953
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: how in the world did this happen that this individual

954
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: has got a waiver after being denied And what you're

955
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: gonna see in the days ahead. I suspect is that

956
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: Majinski act, which was what her real purpose and meaning was,

957
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: but that she was shopping that all over Washington, d C. So,

958
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: but when we said, we actually have pictures of her

959
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: with Democrats, don't we I'm hearing I'm I'm hearing from

960
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: friends of mine in the media that there are or

961
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: that there are videos of this, and that there's uh,

962
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't seeing them, but there's a lot

963
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: of people talking about that. Here's what it means to me.

964
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: So you had to meet that ended up being about

965
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: nothing for all pretense and offense to get the meeting.

966
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, as the lawyer,

967
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: what I have to look at is the legal issues

968
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: surrounding it. And there's as nursh Witz has said, as

969
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: earlier said as Stuben reluctantly a minute, but did and others, well,

970
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: we've got we got a picture Jim hoffed over a

971
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: Gateway pundit and I don't know if this is true.

972
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: I haven't independently verified it, but I'm just reporting when

973
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: he says, you know, he told she told them BC

974
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: that she was not with the Kremlin, And as Don Jr.

975
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: Pointed out, Okay, yeah, she did legal work in Russian

976
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and two, as I guess, as

977
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: a prosecutor or some such thing. But I mean that's

978
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: hardly recent. And then number three, and she confirmed her

979
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: meeting and corroborated everything that Donald Trump said and that

980
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: nothing was passed on. I mean, now in the case

981
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: of the Ukraine, we have just the opposite. Yeah, So

982
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting case. They pointed that out I mean,

983
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: all of the networks I was on this morning ran

984
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: the interview that they did I whoever did it with

985
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: the lawyer Natalia in Moscow where she said, no, wasn't

986
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: a Russian UH government employee, I did not give information

987
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: about the campaign. Don't know where that kind of came from.

988
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: And she said it. And I pointed that back to

989
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: the media, saying a wait, wait a minute, you're playing

990
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: this on your networks, saying this, so you know, why,

991
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: why did Why is this so complicated to figure out

992
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: what happened? It's not so. I think what we've had

993
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: sewn is look, in the heat of a campaign, meetings

994
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: take place. The double standard on the Ukrainian situation is

995
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: incomprehensible that anybody that looks at it for five minutes.

996
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: By the way, that was as you pointed up, that

997
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: was a peace in Politico in January. But by the way,

998
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: information was exchanged. A meeting at the Ukrainian embassy did

999
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: take place. The information was passed onto the Clinton campaign

1000
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: and the d n C. Now I had a I

1001
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: had a host. It was Chris Coleman. I'm almost sure

1002
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: it was Chris that I was on somebody day, But

1003
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: I think it was Chris who said, well, that's different

1004
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: because that's the Ukraine and this is Russia. And there

1005
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: was here, of course, you know, here there was no

1006
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: information that passed hands. There there was so but this

1007
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: idea that somehow they can make the law fitting facts

1008
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: and create law that doesn't exist. But again, you know,

1009
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: I think the uniformity of today is this that there

1010
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: was no illegality. I think Donald Trump Jr. Explained himself

1011
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: well yesterday with an honest you ask probing questions, you

1012
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: asked real questions. He gave answers, and I think, you know,

1013
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: the media still wants to talk about it. That's fine.

1014
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: What the reality is the president is handling a lot

1015
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: of other things that you know. I mean, there's a

1016
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: lot of other things going on in the world. I

1017
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: think he at least to night to go to France.

1018
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: So I mean there's there's a lot of things happening

1019
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: right now, and I am very pleased with where we

1020
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: are legally and how the situation unfolded. Yesterday. I thought,

1021
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: for um, Donald Trump Jr. He did the right thing

1022
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: by getting the emails out. How is it all right?

1023
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: Then answer the how is it possible if if influencing

1024
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: elections is so god awful horrible that I think I

1025
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: might be the only person in the country that points

1026
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: out the victory fifteen campaign where Obama even used taxpayer

1027
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: dollars through the State Department to help unseat Benjamin net Yahoo,

1028
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: let's trying and influence a foreign election or you know,

1029
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: a foreign national Christopher Steele and his ridiculous Assia or

1030
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: the Uranium one deal kick back, a real Russia collusion story.

1031
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, why is it that in the Ukrainian issue?

1032
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: I am trying to understand for the life of me,

1033
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: except that everybody in the media and everybody, and that

1034
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: is a Democrat in Washington has gone stark, raving, insane

1035
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: and mad and they have only one fixation, and that's

1036
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: to take out the president of any by any means

1037
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: necessary at this point, with as much collateral damage. And

1038
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: if it means Ivanka last week and Donald Trump Jr.

1039
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: This week, I guess Eric is the week after they've

1040
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: already you know, traumatized as a eleven year old son

1041
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: with the severed head. I mean, when does it ever end? Well?

1042
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. I think the American people

1043
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: have a majority American people who had enough, they want

1044
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: the president of govern they want issues to be addressed.

1045
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: We're on the threshold of the healthcare bill. You got

1046
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: McConnell making the Senate stay in session. I mean, you

1047
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: know you and I know that it's not getting a

1048
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: lot of converage. But having the Senate stay here in

1049
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: of Washington, d C. In August, let me tell you

1050
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: whether they don't want to be in August in Washington,

1051
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: d C. So, I mean, there's a lot of things moving,

1052
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna see TAXI for him come

1053
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: right after that. But I mean, at the end of

1054
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: the day, this is you know, today a lot of

1055
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: the focus of the media has been franquently on the

1056
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: FBI designate Chris Ray, who did it so far when

1057
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: i've seen, did a very good job of answering the questions.

1058
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: I think we'll have an easy confirmation and he'll get

1059
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: some some stability back into the FBI, and I think

1060
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be do very well for the country. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of other things are happening as all this

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Speaker 1: goes on. All right, Jay, stay right there, we'll take

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Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll come back more with Jase Secular,

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Speaker 1: Chief Council American Center for Law and Justice Council to

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Speaker 1: the President, and your calls coming up in our news

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Speaker 1: round of information overload. Also as we continue, all right,

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Speaker 1: we continue, j Secular Chief Council, American Center for Law

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Speaker 1: and Justice Council to the President. Rowan Scarborough has a

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Speaker 1: great piece in the Washington Times from from Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: he says, well, the main dream news media hunts for

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Speaker 1: evidence of Trump and Russia collusion. The public record shows

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the

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Speaker 1: presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration. And

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Speaker 1: then he points out the disinformation coming from this Russian

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Speaker 1: fed dossier written by and by the way, he even

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Speaker 1: paid for some of this phony information by the former

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Speaker 1: British intelligence agent Christopher Steele, and and that's the one

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Speaker 1: that contains these ridiculous charges of of hookers and murinating

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Speaker 1: in beds, and the and the ritz in Moscow, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, and then he points out that some Democrats

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Speaker 1: have have widely circulated the discredited information and that he

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Speaker 1: says Mr Steele was paid for by the Democratic funded

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Speaker 1: opposition research firm Fusion GPS with money from a Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton backer and Fusion GPS distributed the dossier among Democrats

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Speaker 1: and journalists, and the information fell into the hands of

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Speaker 1: the FBI and then called me wanted to hire this guy,

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Speaker 1: crying out loud. So the same Democrats condemning the Russian

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Speaker 1: election interference, and you know they're advancing all this fake news,

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Speaker 1: phony news themselves. Well, and here's the thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've even seen the tip of the

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Speaker 1: iceberg on the Fusion GPS matter. I really don't. And

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Speaker 1: then of course you've got the whole relationship between Fusion

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Speaker 1: GPS and the Russian lawyer. Again, another another link in

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Speaker 1: the in the chain here. So there's a lot more

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Speaker 1: to see on this. I think what what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: developed is that this was a you know, look at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I go back to the

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Speaker 1: legal issue, and there's not one. So, but there is

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Speaker 1: a fundamental issue here with regard to this entire Special

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Speaker 1: Council matter, and I think it's important to point us out.

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Speaker 1: We know one thing for sure, James Comy leaked the information.

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Speaker 1: That information was a private a series of private conversations

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Speaker 1: he had, but the President of the United States, he

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Speaker 1: put it on his government computer in his government car

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Speaker 1: and as I said, took it out of his government desk,

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Speaker 1: took it home with him. And then when he got

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Speaker 1: terminated and he distributed this government memo to his friend

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Speaker 1: at the Columbia Law School. The government's taking the position

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Speaker 1: now that that impact was not his personal property as

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Speaker 1: he asserted. He called it recollection recorded. They said, no,

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Speaker 1: it's government property. So he got James Colemany sending out

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Speaker 1: government property violation of the criminal We know that, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two. He did it, he said,

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Speaker 1: under oath for the sole purposes obtaining a special counsel.

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Speaker 1: All right, the council was appointed based on what evidence

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Speaker 1: that was illegally leaked. Let's say one last thing on

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Speaker 1: the SEAWAN. There's a privilege that you have when you

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Speaker 1: walk into your entity FBI with the President of STACE

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Speaker 1: is called an executive privilege. And James called me evidently

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Speaker 1: been think two seconds about reaching that, And I think

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Speaker 1: that's important for people to understand. He didn't think he

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Speaker 1: did this his conversations with the president that covered under

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Speaker 1: executive prosident he went and leaked it to the press.

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Speaker 1: Who does he think he's kidding here? Unbelievable times. We're

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Speaker 1: living in Jay Seculo. I don't know how you did

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Speaker 1: three morning shows at seven am and you're still on

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Speaker 1: your feet. That means you got up at five and

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Speaker 1: you did Hannity late last night. So God bless you.

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Speaker 1: You sleep about as much as I do. All Right,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. One Shawn toll free telephone number if

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. Stay

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Speaker 1: right here for our final news round up and information

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Speaker 1: overload in the final hour of the Shawn Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Let me go back to what Tim Kane said. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: if it is what you said, you're in a specially

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Speaker 1: you know, we'd want it released later in the summer.

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Speaker 1: I think that's unusual for a campaign to want research.

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Speaker 1: And I'll get to the Ukrainian issue, which I think

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Speaker 1: has been under reported, especially in light of this coverage.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, I think we had more important

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Speaker 1: things to worry about. I wasn't sure of the credibility

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Speaker 1: of any of this stuff at the time I'm sitting there.

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Speaker 1: Indiana had just probably happened. You know, I'm worried about

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Speaker 1: hearing a contested convention. Contested convention, so you know, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna fight. This is the first time we've ever done

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Speaker 1: any of this. This is you know, I'm still away

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Speaker 1: in the learning curve on all of this, So it

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Speaker 1: wasn't that urgent to me if I'm saying, hey, it

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Speaker 1: can wait till the end of summer. But yeah, obviously

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Speaker 1: want to hear the information. I mean, that's what we

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Speaker 1: do in business. If there's information out there, you want

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Speaker 1: it and then you make what you do with it.

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Speaker 1: If there was something that came from it that was shady,

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Speaker 1: if it was a danger to national security, I would

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Speaker 1: obviously bring it right to someone. But I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what anything was. It was nothing, and therefore there's nothing

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Speaker 1: to be able to actually talk about. The whole contact

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Speaker 1: took How long? How long was the meeting twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: or so? About twenty minutes um and Jared left after

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Speaker 1: five or time, yes, like she said, And Paul Manaport

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Speaker 1: was on his on his time the whole time. Pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty much. It wasn't like I said, It was not

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Speaker 1: pretty apparent that this was not what we were in

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Speaker 1: there talking about. Lot of people are gonna want to

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Speaker 1: know this about your father. Did you tell your father

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Speaker 1: anything about this? It was such a nothing. There was

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Speaker 1: nothing to tell. I mean, I wouldn't have even remembered

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Speaker 1: it until you start scouring through the stuff. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was literally just a waste in twenty minutes, which

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Speaker 1: was a shame. Let me ask a hypothetical, and I

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Speaker 1: hate hypothetical questions, but I think it's relevant in this case.

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Speaker 1: If the meeting resulted in information that you felt in

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Speaker 1: any way, was he illegal or compromising or collusion to

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Speaker 1: use the media's term, I said it earlier percent I

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Speaker 1: would bring it to the proper authority. So there's nothing

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Speaker 1: that I would do to ever endanger this country. I

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Speaker 1: think the reason we fought so hard during this campaign,

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Speaker 1: whether it was my father and the work that he

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Speaker 1: put into it, whether it was the rest of our

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Speaker 1: family and the efforts that we put into it. And

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Speaker 1: you know those efforts well, because we do anything for

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Speaker 1: this country. So we're never gonna put that in jeopardy

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Speaker 1: this as far as you know, or all the emails

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Speaker 1: that exist on this case, and you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any other one. I think there's anything else.

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Speaker 1: We've scoured it thoroughly just to be sure. Uh, there

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Speaker 1: isn't anything else. There uh, and there was no follow up.

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Speaker 1: I think this is important. No follow up with any

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Speaker 1: of them. There was no reason to follow up. There

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Speaker 1: was a waste of time. All right, news roundup and

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Speaker 1: information overload. Our Shawn Hannity Show told free our telephone

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Speaker 1: numbers eight hundred nine one Seawan. And that was from

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Speaker 1: my interview with Donald Trump Junior last night about a

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Speaker 1: twenty minute meeting when somebody had never met before, didn't

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Speaker 1: know who it was except the email that said, well

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Speaker 1: they may have information on Hillary and it may come

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Speaker 1: from Russia. Okay, Well, let's go back to what we

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Speaker 1: have been talking about. And that is a huge double standard.

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Speaker 1: And I go back to the political report. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you print out the political report, it is seventeen pages.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna it's all up on Hannity dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can take a look at the whole report. The headline,

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfires, key of officials scrambling

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Speaker 1: to make amends with the President elect after working to

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Speaker 1: boost Clinton. What what is the whole issue amount as

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Speaker 1: it relates to Russia Trump collusion. Well, it's all about

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Speaker 1: an outside influence, outside country trying to influence the American

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Speaker 1: people and assist the presidential campaign in election. And as

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Speaker 1: the political pointed out, nobody but for this show. And

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Speaker 1: now people in the White House finally have picked up

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Speaker 1: what we have been discussing. You know, most Americans don't know.

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Speaker 1: And this is far more severe, It had far more consequences.

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Speaker 1: There were real meetings that took place, real information that

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Speaker 1: was passed on, and real efforts by a real government

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Speaker 1: to unseat or prevent Donald Trump from ever becoming president

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Speaker 1: and assist Hillary Clinton. There was real collusion here, and

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Speaker 1: it goes on. Donald Trump was was not the only

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate whos campaign was boosted by officials of a

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Speaker 1: former Soviet bloc country. We don't know that Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: campaign was boosted in any way, shape, matter of form,

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Speaker 1: because there's never been any evidence of it. And those

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Speaker 1: emails don't prove a thing except that Donald Trump Jr.

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Speaker 1: Was willing to listen if they had information about Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's all they've got. After eleven months of

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Speaker 1: NonStop lying, NonStop conspiracy theories, Well, that goes on. In

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Speaker 1: this case. Ukrainian government officials did try to help Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton undermine Trump. They publicly in other words, they did

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Speaker 1: things we know the government did things. They publicly questioned

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Speaker 1: his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating Trump

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Speaker 1: aids and corruption, suggested that they were doing investigations for

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Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign, only to back away after the election.

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Speaker 1: They bet on the wrong horse. And they, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and it goes on in the political they helped Clinton's

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Speaker 1: allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisors. So,

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Speaker 1: in other words, they did these things, things that have

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Speaker 1: been alleged about Donald Trump and his campaign that were

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Speaker 1: never proven. And the emails with Donald Jr. Proved nothing

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Speaker 1: except that he was willing to listen if they had information.

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Speaker 1: And everybody from the lawyer from Russia, who, of course

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration gave a waiver to come into the country.

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Speaker 1: Everyone forget it's that little detail. They got nothing. She

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Speaker 1: says it. Don Jr. Says it, Jared Kushner says it.

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Speaker 1: And Paul Manafort apparently was on his BlackBerry the whole

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Speaker 1: time or his iPhone the whole time. Then it goes

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Speaker 1: on in the politico. Ukrainian American Operative consulting for the

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Speaker 1: d n C met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy.

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Speaker 1: Where's Tim Kaine on this one? Where all the Democrats say, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you gotta put this person under oath because this is actual,

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Speaker 1: real meetings, collusion and information passed on. Anyway, the d

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Speaker 1: n C member met with top officials in the Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between

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Speaker 1: Trump and Manaford and Russia. According to people with knowledge

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Speaker 1: of the situation, I think they all need to be

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Speaker 1: put under oath now. And the Ukrainian efforts had an

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Speaker 1: impact in the race, big difference. There's no evidence of

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Speaker 1: any impact that Russia had in this race period end

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Speaker 1: of sentence. In advancing the narrative at Trump's campaign was

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Speaker 1: deeply connected to Ukraine's foe to the east, Russia, but

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Speaker 1: they were are less concerted or centrally directed than then

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Speaker 1: Russia's alleged hacking and dissemination of democratic emails. Goosever, by

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Speaker 1: the way, put out a point that they think that

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Speaker 1: at least in the case of the wiki leaks the

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Speaker 1: d n C emails. At this point they reported, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's true yet, but there are reports

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Speaker 1: out there that this was all done domestically there's never

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Speaker 1: been any proof or any evidence. And the one person

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Speaker 1: that knows the truth, Julian Assange, said no, it was

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Speaker 1: never Russia that passed on those emails to wiki leaks,

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Speaker 1: and it was no state that passed it on to

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Speaker 1: wiki leaks anyway. Um Russia's effort was you know, they

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Speaker 1: claim it was personally directed by Vladimir Putin. The only

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Speaker 1: one that we know that gave Vladimir Putin something they

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Speaker 1: wanted was Hillary and that was or up to of

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Speaker 1: America's uranium. And of course over a hundred million dollars

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Speaker 1: goes back to the Clinton Foundation. It's called bribery. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Here to discuss and debate news round Up Information Overload

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Speaker 1: is Ron Christie, former special assistant the President Bush columnists

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Speaker 1: for Sidewire, Emily Shyer is of the Week and Emily,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. How are you? How are you? So?

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Speaker 1: Tell me what part of collusion didn't exist with the

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign, the d n C in the UK, and

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainian government. So your reference to the political report

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Speaker 1: is a pretty wide mischaracterization because there is zero eminence.

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Speaker 1: Was a top down Ukrainian Stop for a second. You

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Speaker 1: can't say it's a mischaracterization of the article. When I'm

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Speaker 1: reading verbatim, I read verbatim a top down, remotely equivalent

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Speaker 1: affair to what top and I'll read directly. A Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: American operative who was consulting for the d n C

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Speaker 1: met with top officials in the Ukrainian embassy in an

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Speaker 1: effort to expose ties between Trump as campaign manager and Russia.

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Speaker 1: The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, it

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Speaker 1: goes on to say, and then more importantly, it goes

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Speaker 1: further on to say that information was passed onto the

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Speaker 1: d n C and to the Clinton campaign. Tell me

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Speaker 1: how that's not collusion and not describing actually what our

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Speaker 1: top uous intelligence officials say Russia did, which is that

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Speaker 1: the best infraation we have available is that Vladimir Prudent,

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Speaker 1: from a top down approach, personally directed intelligence agencies to

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Speaker 1: expose information to hack the d n C and the

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign. Okay, let me. I will play our top

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Speaker 1: intelligence officials all saying there's no evidence of collusion. Would

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Speaker 1: you like me to play it for you. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I am actually not trying to be lib confused about

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Speaker 1: what you're trying. You just got done saying that our

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Speaker 1: top intelligence officials have been saying that in fact, all

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Speaker 1: these things happen and is there's evidence of collusion between

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and Russia. What I'm saying is that

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Speaker 1: we have top intelligence officials, including from James Clapper, who

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Speaker 1: is nominated first first major posts. I may add by

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Speaker 1: Georgia Bush saying that is from Russia. Quote. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or a direct

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Speaker 1: campaign and interedare in our election. James Clapper, James, now

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Speaker 1: you're listen. Now, what you're doing is you're mixing issues

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Speaker 1: together here, James Clapper. James Clapper has said that there

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Speaker 1: was no evidence of collusion between the Trump Russian campaign.

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Speaker 1: And then we have here we know Ukrainian Americans and

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Speaker 1: this d NC operative work with the Ukrainian government for

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Speaker 1: the very purpose of getting information which they got disseminating

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Speaker 1: false information trying to elect Hillary Clinton. What we have

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Speaker 1: is a case, this report focused on one Ukrainian American,

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Speaker 1: one person who spoke to d C Committee operative for

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Speaker 1: crying out loud ron Christie, Good afternoon, Sean. You know,

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Speaker 1: the hypocrisy here is just frightening. This whole case is

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Speaker 1: designed by those on the left to try to take

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Speaker 1: down the President United States on this trumped up, no

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Speaker 1: pun intended notion that the campaign of the President of

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Speaker 1: the United States colluded with the Russians. The only reason

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Speaker 1: they came out with this narrative, Shaun, as you and

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Speaker 1: I both know so well, is to cover for the

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Speaker 1: fact that Hillary Clinton lost in an embarrassing defeat and

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Speaker 1: they had to have some sort of excuse to explain

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Speaker 1: how could she have lost? Oh, the Russians did it.

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Speaker 1: But in this case, it's clear d NC operative goes

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Speaker 1: to the Ukrainian embassy, meets with officials in an embassy

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Speaker 1: of a foreign government, which directly, in my view, was

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Speaker 1: an effort to try to undermine the election of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Plane and simple. It's like it's an open and shut case.

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Speaker 1: There's no ambiguity here. Now the question, Ron Christie begins, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we've heard eleven months only about one issue. So my

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Speaker 1: question is, why isn't the media, Why are in all

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Speaker 1: these Democratic senators and congressmen, Why aren't they demanding the

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Speaker 1: same thing they're demanding of the Trump campaign, Jane and

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Speaker 1: people associated with Trump when there's far more evidence as

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact in controvertible evidence of collusion. Well,

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Speaker 1: the democratic uh democratic establishment in the media, in my view,

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Speaker 1: are one and the same, and they've never tried to

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Speaker 1: take one of theirs out. And they loathe the President.

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Speaker 1: They loathe the fact that he uses Twitter to speak

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Speaker 1: directly over them, to speak to the American people and

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Speaker 1: to articulate his message, and that doesn't play well with

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Speaker 1: the establishment down here in Washington, Seawan. They want to

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Speaker 1: take him out because he doesn't play by their rules

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Speaker 1: in the manner that they want him to act. And

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Speaker 1: after eleven months, after countless investigations, they still have absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 1: And to look at people like Tim Kine Center from

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Speaker 1: Virginia and Adam Schiff and some of these other people

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Speaker 1: who are seeing treason and crimes were committed. Either they've

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Speaker 1: never read the Constitution or they have no notion of

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Speaker 1: criminal law. My favorite and the most brilliant law. I

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Speaker 1: had one at Georgetown GW Brothers, Jonathan Turley. But I

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Speaker 1: know that you've had on your program, and he's a

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Speaker 1: left winger. It says there's nothing there. They have to

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Speaker 1: move on, and they can't move on because they've got

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Speaker 1: nothing else. Sean, We'll take a break, will come back

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Speaker 1: more with Ron Christie and Emily Shier. Will get to

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Speaker 1: your calls as well. Last half hour of the program.

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Speaker 1: Shaun is on number right. As we continue, Emily Shier

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Speaker 1: and Ron Christie News Round Up, Information Overload Our You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say when I'm reading

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Speaker 1: directly verbatim from the political article and politicals investigation, all

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Speaker 1: this evidence of the Ukrainian government, their involvement in this election,

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Speaker 1: their meetings with d n C officials, their dissemination of

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Speaker 1: false information, their attempt to influence the American people in

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Speaker 1: electillery and not Donald Trump. And you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: see any need to look into this at all when

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Speaker 1: it's far more, far more. It's such an example of

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Speaker 1: more collusion than anything that's even been alleged with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: And I just, you know what I find all the

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Speaker 1: sickening in terms of the political nature of all of this.

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Speaker 1: Why why can't you just be intellectually honest and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they okay, at the very least they both did it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see the Trump did anything that's been proven. Emily.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I'd like to point out

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Speaker 1: your accusing the media, and yet it was political, which

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Speaker 1: has often been accused as either mainstream, which by default

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Speaker 1: means left as the ones reported on it. It is

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Speaker 1: not that this issue was ignored. It was reported out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but but you don't get Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

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Speaker 1: You don't get Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. You get

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01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:37,879
Speaker 1: it one story, one narrative, one conspiracy theory with no evidence.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got evidence here. You just said, okay, that

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Speaker 1: was in January. How many thousands of hours have been

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Speaker 1: spent on Trump and Russia with no evidence? Because there's

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Speaker 1: much more evidence that it was directed from a top

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Speaker 1: down Russian government official. What's the evidence? Tell Ron Christie

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Speaker 1: what the evidence is? What is the evidence? Can person

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Speaker 1: who sell to a few people in the embassy as

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Speaker 1: opposed to the damning amounts of information and comperation from

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Speaker 1: our intelligence agencies that Russia played an active role in

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Speaker 1: helping Trump win? Wait a minute, intelligence? True? I mean

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Speaker 1: you know, let me play literally answer the following question

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Speaker 1: whether there were improper contexts between the Trump campaign and

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Speaker 1: Russian officials. We did not include any evidence in our report,

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Speaker 1: and I say our that's n s a FBI and

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Speaker 1: CIA with my office and Director nur Intelligence that had

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Speaker 1: anything that had any reflection of collusion between members of

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and the Russians. And I can't play

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Speaker 1: at all because we run out of time. But Ron Christie,

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Speaker 1: Clapper said it, call me said it. Admir Rodgers said it.

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Speaker 1: Brennan said. Obama said that the Russians had no bearing

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Speaker 1: on the electoral integrity of our elections. So the notion

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Speaker 1: that this was stolen, that there was collusion is a false,

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Speaker 1: made up media narrative. There's not a ton of evidence

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Speaker 1: out there. There's no evidence out there, not one. Can't

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Speaker 1: name one official within the Russian government who met with

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Speaker 1: anybody from the campaign to do anything to affect the election.

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Speaker 1: It's just a made up democratic fantasy. Unbelievable, unbelievable. And

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01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: the American people, you know what you see the double standard.

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01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: It can't be any more flagrant than what it is now.

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01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: It's just pathetic. They're so dishonest, they're so ideological, they're

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01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: so morally bankrupt and corrupt. It's disgusted that to eight

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Speaker 1: nine for one Shawn Tolfrey telephone number. Ron Christie, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Emily Shyer, thank you. We'll take a break. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, wide open telephones will get to your calls,

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Speaker 1: your comments, You're intuitive, insight it and whatever else is

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Speaker 1: on your mind. Next alright till the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: one sewn you want to be a part of the program. Alright,

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Speaker 1: as promised, Let's get to our busy telephones we have.

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Speaker 1: Bob is in Mount Pleasant. I believe in new joy Z.

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Speaker 1: What's happening, Bob, Welcome to the all new A M

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Speaker 1: seven ten w O R. What's going on? A good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: miss for Hannony. This is an absolute, absolute honor to

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Speaker 1: be speaking to to a gentleman of your stature. Bottom

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Speaker 1: line is I want to commend you on on two fronts.

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Speaker 1: The first front is the way you brought back against

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Speaker 1: the media, against the left wing idiots for lack of

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01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: a better term that came after you and try to

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Speaker 1: jeopardize the Sean Hannity Show. And now I I got

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Speaker 1: to thank the audience and and all of you that

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01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: supported me and supported you know, the groups like you know,

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01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: Media Equalizer came to my defriends and so many and

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Speaker 1: really the people this program did and and honestly, this

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Speaker 1: is this hasn't been the first time. It was probably

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Speaker 1: the hardest, but it won't be the last time. There's

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Speaker 1: a real effort to silence conservative voices. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if people don't help me, I can't win. I really

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Speaker 1: can't tip tip of the caps or tip of the cap.

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Speaker 1: And when you do, uh speak to Mr Cyclo if

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Speaker 1: he's listening. Watched his rounds early this morning. Did a

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Speaker 1: fantastic job. I was I was talking to the Springer previously.

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Speaker 1: And you know, from an optics standpoint, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you would agree, and Junior would agree, it doesn't look good.

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Speaker 1: But that's, you know what, big deal, rookie mistake. Chalk

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Speaker 1: it up. Bottom line is a from a legal standpoint,

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Speaker 1: you hear constitutional attorneys like Jonathan Turley going on fake

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Speaker 1: news channel says no crime has been committed various other constitutions,

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Speaker 1: no crime has been committed. So let's just get that

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Speaker 1: off the table. The bottom line is this, Mr Hannity,

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Speaker 1: and you can get the word out there. Trump needs

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Speaker 1: a seasoned veteran in that White House. And and and

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Speaker 1: the name that comes to mind certainly is is your

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Speaker 1: buddy Gingrich. Okay, but I like him on the outside.

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Speaker 1: I like him going to the ABC, the NBC, the

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Speaker 1: the other news outlets to get that point across. It

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Speaker 1: just as important on the outside as he would be

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Speaker 1: in the inside. But I want a seasoned veteran in there.

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Speaker 1: What would that be assigning ranks previous to another position? Possibly,

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Speaker 1: But you know what a season veterans somebody with tenure

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Speaker 1: A name I'm gonna throw out there is an Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've seen him on the airwaves, does a does a

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Speaker 1: fine job. A guy that has served in a multitude

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Speaker 1: of administration that can write the ship. Because the leaks

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Speaker 1: are coming from within. And now are they Obama's holdovers?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? But you know, I hate to speculate, but

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Speaker 1: I think they're coming from somebody that is close to Trump.

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Speaker 1: And I'll let you cross the teas and top the eyes.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this, Listen, I'm not I don't

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01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm not there at the White House. You know, you

1479
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: read about in fighting and leaking and and there's way

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: too much of it from my perspective. And I've actually

1481
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: told people when I talked to them that it's got

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01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: to stop. The infighting has got to stop. The leaking

1483
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: has got to stop. The focus has got to be

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01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: on fulfilling the promises the President made to the American

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01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: people and advancing his agenda. That's why, all right, Mitch

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: McConnell says they're gonna delay their little vacation. Fine, it's

1487
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: a good start, but it's no good if they don't

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01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: get the job done. So until less than until they

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01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,919
Speaker 1: actually fulfill the promises. I'm skeptical. I'm not that confident

1490
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: now on the issue of bringing other people, and I

1491
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: actually do agree with you. I think new would be

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01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: the perfect legislative liaison to move the agenda forward. And

1493
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: with all due respect to Paul ryany and and MINJ. McConnell,

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: they're not getting the job done to my satisfaction or

1495
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: any Conservative that I know satisfaction. So these guys need

1496
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: to get their asking gear and get moving and have

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: a sense of urgency to serve the country. By the way,

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01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 1: their own futures are contingent on them doing this, because

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01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: you can't not get healthcare done after you promised it

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01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: since twenty ten and ran on it and then expect

1501
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: to get elected in twenty team when you have the

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01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: House to senate in the White House. So if they

1503
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: want to be stupid and pay a political price. Then good,

1504
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: don't get it done, be lazy, you know, be against

1505
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: the president. Do whatever you're gonna do. Now. The only

1506
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: other thing that I'll say on this issue is maybe

1507
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: Mike Huckabee needs to help on the communications front. I mean,

1508
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: these are things that they could do from the outside

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01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: and organize because they're just seasoned professionals. I I prefer

1510
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: those that have the kind of experience that that somebody

1511
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: like New King Rich played, you know. So we'll see anyway,

1512
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: eight Shaun is on number. Let's get back to our phones.

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01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Don in Los Angeles, California.

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01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: K E, I B. What's up? Don? How are you?

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm glad you called, sir, Thank you, love you, Sean

1516
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: love the show. I'm a huge fan of j secular,

1517
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, but boy, I really disagree on a lot

1518
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: of this Trump stuff. The only way we can really

1519
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: hit back at the Democrats, and it should be easy

1520
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: because everything they say against Trump reflects right back on them.

1521
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: If they like investigations, great, let's investigate Hillary. Let's investigate

1522
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: the leakers. Let by the way, you you sound more

1523
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: like James Earl Jones than anybody else that's ever called

1524
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: this program it. Now, I'm not the first person to

1525
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: tell you that, am I No that? How many people

1526
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: have told you it's uncanny? To me? Gosh, I hear

1527
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: it quite a lot. Yeah. I actually talked to a

1528
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: guy that gave him his first He said, he goes.

1529
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: I cast him for his first TV job. The second job,

1530
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: he had a roll the next thing you're starting in

1531
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: the whole damn thing. So I've been hearing it for

1532
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: a while. I mean, I clearly missed my calling in life.

1533
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: But well, I'm gonna tell you something. James Earl Jones

1534
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: has the best set of pipes I've ever heard one

1535
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: of them. Maybe I'm a ti leengitimate son. I don't know.

1536
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm on that side of the family. They don't talk

1537
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: about well stop all right now listen, I would say

1538
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: this to you. Yeah, And I've heard a lot of

1539
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: liberals may well, the Ukrainians our friend, not our enemy.

1540
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, which is they're not our friend if

1541
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: they're trying to pick winners and loses in our election?

1542
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hang on a second. If they're helping

1543
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and they're undermining Trump and they're doing research

1544
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: for the Clinton campaign and the d n C, and

1545
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: they're putting out false stories on one presidential candidate. They

1546
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: are trying to undermine our election process just as much

1547
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: as the Russians quote allegedly tried. And I have not

1548
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: seen the evidence that has been proven yet. Okay, Well,

1549
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: the answer to that is they're what they're saying about

1550
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Trump is because they know about his connection with Man

1551
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: of Fourth and with the president they kicked out of Ukraine.

1552
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,839
Speaker 1: There are ella you know. It's we try to influence elections.

1553
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: We've been doing it ever since the Cold War, to

1554
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: promote democracy. In most cases, not in Obama's case against

1555
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,879
Speaker 1: Israel that's wrong too. But for us, they have equity.

1556
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: We have to have clean hands. And there's no question.

1557
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: But wait a minute. The whole thing is collusion to

1558
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: defeat Hillary. That's what the whole phony, blackness, helicopter not

1559
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: for me, okay, But but I'm only saying you it

1560
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter friend or foe. If you're trying to influence

1561
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: America's doesn't matter friend. Well it's okay. If if the

1562
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: Ukraine just because they're friendly to us or trying to

1563
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: influence our elections, wrong, I disagree. Tries to influence our elections.

1564
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: We try to influence this, we try to influence that.

1565
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: But you're you're acting. I'm saying that. No. But if

1566
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: if we're taking the position that influencing or impacting or

1567
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: trying to impact act American elections, and in the case

1568
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: of the Ukrainians are disseminating false information to the American people,

1569
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: that's a nice way of saying they're lying. Well, how

1570
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: do you know it's false, Because we know it's false.

1571
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: We know the information that they've tuned out from Trump.

1572
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: Yet all I've heard is how much he wants to

1573
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: get along with him because of his business. Well, all

1574
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: we heard from from the Clinton campaign was we're gonna

1575
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 1: have a Russian reset. And Hillary gave of our uranium

1576
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: to that idiot exactly. And that's wrong. But you know

1577
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: what they say the same thing you say. They say

1578
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: that's not illegal. It's wrong, but it's not illegal. The

1579
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Iranian dealist. You can't give me one bit of You

1580
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: can't give me any evidence of Russian collusion with the

1581
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: Trump campaign. I'll give you all the time you need.

1582
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: Go I haven't seen. Well, sure, Well, let's let the Well,

1583
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: first of all, let's let the election play out as

1584
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: far as collusion, collusion, what's your definition of collusion? Give

1585
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: me any accept give me, give me no prudent our enemy,

1586
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: don don you're slow down. I'm asking you a specific question,

1587
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: because I just gave repeatedly on this program today, specific

1588
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: evidence of the Ukrainians colluding with the d n C,

1589
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: A paid d n C staffer, information passed on in

1590
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign of the DNC. Give me an example.

1591
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: Everything I've heard from Trump. The only thing I can

1592
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: go by this what I get on the media. I'm

1593
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: not in the FBI, I'm not an investigator. All I

1594
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: know is all I hear from him is apologizing, saying

1595
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: this dumb idea about how we should cooperate with Putin.

1596
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: That's like the police cooperating with the mafia for the cybersecurity.

1597
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: That's insane, you know, I you know, It's like, I'm

1598
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: not an investor. Let's let the investigation. But the bottom

1599
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: line is, I can give you evidence that is corroborated, confirmed,

1600
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: and incontrovertible that the Ukrainians tried to influence, lie to

1601
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: the American people, and propagandize them. But you can't give

1602
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,520
Speaker 1: me any evidence. After eleven long months of NonStop conspiracy

1603
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: theories of Trump Russia collusion. You know you sound like

1604
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: let me play Jake Tapper and Brian Williams and Andrea

1605
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 1: Mitchell all unaware. In the case of Mitchell and Williams

1606
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: that the Ukrainians are helping Hillary Clinton or Jake tappero

1607
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because she lost, is it does if

1608
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: they're trying to manipulate us. Andrew mitchell I said earlier,

1609
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,919
Speaker 1: no public events for three days on the president's calendar.

1610
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: He leaves tonight for Paris for Bastille Day celebrations. But

1611
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,879
Speaker 1: we've heard from the president again three minutes ago on Twitter.

1612
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you can help me decipher this. Why aren't

1613
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: the same standards placed on the Democrats? Period? Look what

1614
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with disgraceful. You want

1615
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 1: to take a whack at that. Um trying to figure

1616
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: it out myself. Earlier he called it a witch hunt.

1617
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: So he's still on the fake news or what the

1618
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing that combo. Perhaps this is a reference

1619
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: to email, since his son voluntarily tweeted out the whole

1620
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: email chain. Nobody was forcing him to do that. Other

1621
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: than the questions that were raised by the New York Times,

1622
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: and they said that they were about to reveal them themselves.

1623
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: So uh, he voluntarily released his emails. So perhaps it's

1624
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 1: an email reference. But it's hard to figure out what

1625
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: this is about. You know, if we're gonna do this,

1626
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: what about the Ukrainian government and Alexandra Chalupa Chalupa who

1627
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 1: was a Clinton aide? Who was she was? She was

1628
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: a consultant of the Democratic National Committee. Well okay, but

1629
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: she was the liason. She was the liaison with the

1630
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 1: Ukrainian government given information. But it doesn't matter if we're

1631
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: talking it does It doesn't matter because the Chalupa thing

1632
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: is is nothing like this. But if we're talking about

1633
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: US Code five thirty one, which is what they're saying,

1634
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: that they that Alan got something of a value, you

1635
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,959
Speaker 1: get the Clinton Ukrainians offering information about what Paul Manafort

1636
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: did in Ukraine is not the same thing as that.

1637
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: All that does matter, doesn't it? But Trump is president,

1638
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 1: he's the one with the finger on the button. He's

1639
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: the commander. Okay, give me, give me an example of

1640
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: any collusion. What do you call what's your definition? Come on,

1641
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: don to give me an example. Give me an example.

1642
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: Give me an example, with the Trump pain colluded with

1643
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: the Russians and the Russians did anything? What did they

1644
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: do that? Now, we know that the Russians tried to

1645
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: influence the election, but it's no different than what they've

1646
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: done in testimony from our intelligence officials said they've done

1647
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,839
Speaker 1: it in past elections, they did it in this election,

1648
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: and they'll do it in future elections since the Soviet

1649
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Union exists. Okay, but the Ukrainians are doing the same

1650
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: thing and we have evidence of it. Well, what do

1651
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 1: you call this? What do you I mean? What is

1652
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 1: your definition of collusion? Collusion is did did the Trump

1653
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: campaign collude with Russia? For example? On the email league

1654
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: to wiki leaks, We have no evidence that took place

1655
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: except that Julian Assans, the one guy that knows, told

1656
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 1: me multiple times, no, it wasn't Russia. Oh great, okay, fine,

1657
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: so Julian Assange is our guy now, grel Juliet, Well,

1658
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: hang on, Julian Assanji and Wiki Leaks hasn't been wrong

1659
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: in eleven years. You can't name one time they've ever

1660
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: gotten their facts wrong because it doesn't exist. They've never

1661
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 1: been proven wrong. I'm not that big of a fan

1662
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: of Julius. It doesn't matter. It's a fact. They've never

1663
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: been proven wrong. Okay, So what what would it What

1664
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: is your definition of collusion? What would it take for

1665
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 1: you do that? Okay, I'll give you an example. What

1666
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: the Ukrainians did by meeting with the paid d n

1667
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: C staffer and putting out false information and doing research

1668
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: op research on Trump the way the Ukrainians did in

1669
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: this campaign, that's collusion with the d n C and

1670
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: with with the Hillary campaign. That's collusion. Then go along

1671
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: against that, investigate that too. If that's wrong, put her

1672
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: in jail. But guess what they might be in the

1673
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: in the same cell with Trump? How about that? Okay?

1674
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: But done? The only difference between my argument and yours

1675
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: is you don't have any facts to back up what

1676
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: you're saying. Well, I'm not an investigator, I'm not them.

1677
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: But then if you don't know, wait a minute, If

1678
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: you don't know, don I love you. But if you

1679
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,480
Speaker 1: don't know the truth, then stop speculating. Here the Ukrainian

1680
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, remember the political story Ukrainian sabotage of Trump backfired.

1681
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: You know, I've got the article, I've gone through it

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Speaker 1: in all of its detail, he of officials scrambling to

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Speaker 1: make amends with the president of act after working to

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Speaker 1: boost Hillary Clinton. And it's on my website. Go look

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Speaker 1: at Hannity dot com. The whole articles up there, all

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Speaker 1: seventeen pages of it. Did you say russ our enemy?

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Speaker 1: Putents our enemy. I don't trust Vladimir Putin as far

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Speaker 1: as I could throw him. Okay, is he our enemy? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Or no? You asked me a question. Okay, I think

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is an enemy of the United States. I

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Speaker 1: think yes. I believe he is out for his own interests.

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Speaker 1: I love you, man, but okay, we agree on that.

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Speaker 1: That's progress, all right. James Earl Jones calling in on

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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity. You know you sound like James right.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? You need to make

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Speaker 1: money with those voice How old are you if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind me asking? Oh, I'm way over twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I remember when the Dodgers came to l A. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can still make money with that voice. Go out

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Speaker 1: and make money to look for a big voiceover company

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Speaker 1: and see if you can't make money. Good deal. I'll

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Speaker 1: be your stunt double. I don't you don't sound like me.

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Speaker 1: I wish I sounded as good as you. I'll be

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Speaker 1: your voice double. Oh my god, alright, my friend, God

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Speaker 1: bless you. Why am I so frustrated? I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm It's so hard to argue with people in the

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Speaker 1: love sometimes he is such a nice guy. What a

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Speaker 1: set of pipes. Wow, it's like Scott shann Annity's me

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Speaker 1: Channons sounding great. Shannon, No, you gotta get to the issue.

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Speaker 1: You got you and Lynda arguing way too much. Hannity Tonight,

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Speaker 1: ten Eastern, Fox News Channel. All Right, all that the

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Speaker 1: left is saying about Trump Russia collusion, Donald Jr. Guess

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Speaker 1: what it applies to Ukraine? It applies to Obama meddling

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Speaker 1: in his Israel's elections. It applies to Chris Steele and

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Speaker 1: the phony dossier. Well of all the details. Tonight, ten Eastern, Hannity,

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Speaker 1: Fox News. We got new Gingridge tonight. Kelley and Conway

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Speaker 1: will join us tonight, Greg jareded Haraldo Rivera ten Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss it, Hannity, Fox. Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Back here tomorrow,