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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, be right. Sometimes a little preparing is good for
Speaker 2: the old soul. No, you did good, bro, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: That means a lot. Can we like, let's just let's
Speaker 2: start off with this.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about how you've turned the page and
Speaker 3: reading Nebraska corners or maybe just Lincoln in general.
Speaker 2: Like we had it all.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too far into it because
Speaker 1: it's living. It's slow living on YouTube, both audio and videos.
Speaker 1: We're doing audio and video at first. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys, just little internal stuff for you at first.
Speaker 1: This is just gonna live on YouTube. Correct Now to
Speaker 1: really put it in our faces, maybe you just go
Speaker 1: look at the audio for a little bit. You like
Speaker 1: it so much you want to watch it twice being
Speaker 1: bang boom? There it is again. How many times am
Speaker 1: I going to say that being bang boom? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know when we did.
Speaker 3: We did the Chevy read boom You hit the truck
Speaker 3: three different times?
Speaker 5: Did I?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's a little stupid. Yeah, yeahde listen. We were out late,
Speaker 1: let late late that night. We were at Berry's. A
Speaker 1: lot of dicks around us, dude, shoddies. Yes, we're at
Speaker 1: the rail So I woke up that morning and the
Speaker 1: void the word box wasn't working as well as it
Speaker 1: used to. Yeah, so I'm glad we got that done.
Speaker 1: But to go back to your question, Listen, when you
Speaker 1: think to yourself in Nebraska, do you think fly over state?
Speaker 1: I'm saying it. You're probably listening as a Nebraska fan
Speaker 1: right now. It's just a god honest truth. So I
Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect when we got to Nebraska,
Speaker 1: and holy shit, you guys did not disappoint. It is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: The town's epic, the stadium's beautiful, the facilities are top notch.
Speaker 2: Truly an amazing university.
Speaker 1: I've taken back every negative thing I've said about the
Speaker 1: corn Huskers, every negative thing I've said.
Speaker 2: That's huge. It's a big deal. Competitive motherfucker. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm a competitive weather competitive whether or not you.
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, you'll die on a hill. It's
Speaker 3: like I'm digging my heels on the ground right giving
Speaker 3: this usually.
Speaker 1: Just stick in and no matter what, dude, no matter what,
Speaker 1: no matter what, such an American move, such an American
Speaker 1: guy move, am I right? But you that we went
Speaker 1: to Nebraska and I kind of mentioned berries the rail.
Speaker 1: If you're a Nebraska fan, you've been in a brast Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been there before.
Speaker 1: People were unbelievable, unbelievable, different, different, different, different. It really was.
Speaker 1: People were nice to us, the equipment guys here. I
Speaker 1: was hoping when we got to Nebraska that maybe the Hoods,
Speaker 1: the boy with the jersey little seventy seven with Lawan
Speaker 1: in the back, and they fucking did dude, I really
Speaker 1: want to ask, and they gave it to me. That
Speaker 1: was the turning point for my day. I did have
Speaker 1: a bit of a fucking issue with my breakfast the
Speaker 1: first morning, the fact that you took me to village
Speaker 1: in maybe you want to end this fucking relationship real
Speaker 1: quick and maybe absolutely want to stab you and leave, dude,
Speaker 1: assault and goat. We're keeping up, dude. How much do
Speaker 1: we last? The best the best best we've ever had
Speaker 1: in our entire lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as Sailor nized relationship, that was the
Speaker 3: hardest we've ever last our life together.
Speaker 1: In our life, we were the youngest people and thereby
Speaker 1: seventy six years.
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone had three digits in the life.
Speaker 2: I give that they gut toss. Dude.
Speaker 1: Look at this, by the way, hey, big clap for blocks.
Speaker 1: What an amazing Holy shit, dude, that was incredible. Guys
Speaker 1: should have gone pro. But look at this thing now,
Speaker 1: I know this is coming out and what heavy duty.
Speaker 1: You know, in augusta Timber were like, this thing hurts
Speaker 1: a little bit, but that's that's a legit Nebraska cornhuskerw
Speaker 1: jersey with my name on the back. Now we're going
Speaker 1: to Michigan this week. I'm not gonna tell him that.
Speaker 1: Hopefully this this clip will make it to him. Maybe
Speaker 1: us can tag you miss football in there because I
Speaker 1: don't want to go. Actually ask I'm praying to God
Speaker 1: they treat us as good as Nebraska dead. I'm really
Speaker 1: it was it was that I was. It was that
Speaker 1: beautiful to me.
Speaker 3: Within the first two hours of being saying, you're like, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: I hope you know you might not be yeah, hyping
Speaker 3: up Michigan too much.
Speaker 1: It might not be like yeah, listen, I was like
Speaker 1: I was putting in Surt's policies in the back pocket.
Speaker 2: It was incredible, dude.
Speaker 1: I had an amazing time Michigan is an amazing spot.
Speaker 1: I got treated great when I was there, but you know,
Speaker 1: when you leave, you know, maybe the matteric's not there
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: I'm really hoping I'm put wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping at the end of the day we
Speaker 1: come in and they just blow our socks off, and
Speaker 1: I hope we come home missing socks.
Speaker 2: That's how bad all of them to fucking deal with us. Wee,
Speaker 2: I get a jersey like a fifty one. That's okay.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was trying to get to. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you know how the boy likes to ramble. But I
Speaker 1: really hope they come out there with a Compton fifty
Speaker 1: one or fifty three or fifty seven, fifty seven? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was this year. I follow your career. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan. I'm a huge fan of you, huge fan.
Speaker 1: But without further ado, Right, we have airicro on this week.
Speaker 1: We should probably talk about her. Well, I for sure
Speaker 1: we'll get into her. But one last thing, jumping the gun.
Speaker 1: You're jumping excited, boy, So I'm excited, boy.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: But the biggest thing we want to get accomplished in
Speaker 3: Michigan would be that Battle of the Bus quest Battle
Speaker 3: for the bus. Question you asked, dude, Scott frostol.
Speaker 1: You got you know what I'm saying, Stick me right
Speaker 1: in the asshole, dude, that's exactly what I want.
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 3: High i Q, high savvy, high awareness situation when we
Speaker 3: were interviewing Scott Frost all the time moment, they're thinking,
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta deliver a little bit for the
Speaker 3: Nebraska fans like they want to hear. Will ask a
Speaker 3: couple of harder questions, questions that he's been asking, dabbled around,
Speaker 3: but say some real To be fair, you did, thanks.
Speaker 1: But did an amazing job doing that. But I was
Speaker 1: kind of scared for you when you did that, actual nervous.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, ask him that right, right, right right.
Speaker 3: But you guys can go listen to that. Subscribe to
Speaker 3: it too, subscribe listen five stars.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: High Awareness asked him, would you put together if we
Speaker 3: put together a bus trophy where it's the bus we
Speaker 3: got the steeer horns on at a big one and
Speaker 3: every every year Michigan and Nebraska play, we call it
Speaker 3: the Battle for the Bus and phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Scott sits up in a chair and he's like What
Speaker 2: did he like that? What did he say about the ad?
Speaker 1: He said, if he said, I'm he said, if the
Speaker 1: ad at Michigan and the head coach at Michigan are
Speaker 1: good with it's by the way, Michigan maybe see does disrespect.
Speaker 2: He knows exactly who your head coach is, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: He gets him a lot of profits. He didn't from coach,
Speaker 1: you might not be Yeah. Yeah, they got to go
Speaker 1: watch it on YouTube and audio. But I love how
Speaker 1: you kind of did that. Just yeah, you pulled that
Speaker 1: thing out for a second. They kind of missed it.
Speaker 1: But yes, absolutely, if the Battle of the bus, he said,
Speaker 1: if a d and the head coach of Michigan signs
Speaker 1: off on it, they have no problem doing a trophy
Speaker 1: game between Nebraska and Michigan. They're in dude, that would
Speaker 1: be the coolest shit it's ever happened to us in
Speaker 1: our life.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be iconic. But battle for the bus
Speaker 2: ca it's the battle for the bus. And then they're.
Speaker 3: Hoisting stoked on it. Remember they they there's trophies out
Speaker 3: there for anything. What was the Minnesota one? Some bucket one? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a brown jug. Please don't disrespecs. Sorry, sorry, the
Speaker 3: Brown je who's that between? It's between Minnesota and Michigan.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry, Michigan was involved that.
Speaker 2: You're cool.
Speaker 3: You're calling the Brown Joe like something over Battle of
Speaker 3: the Bus. I think that's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's actually a bar at Michigan and arbur shout
Speaker 1: out the Brown jug great place. He used to get
Speaker 1: pictures of b wall shots and just take those to
Speaker 1: the head and then sing Blnklin eighty two songs on
Speaker 1: a Sunday night. You're gonna have a great time there.
Speaker 1: I think you're really gonna enjoy it. I think you're
Speaker 1: really gonna have a great time maybe where we put
Speaker 1: our kind of a metro deal right there and we
Speaker 1: my handout.
Speaker 2: We learned that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all good. I'm afraid of myself. No, I
Speaker 1: think that's a I think that's a smart move.
Speaker 3: And if there's a Brown Jug in Michigan, who doesn't
Speaker 3: think that there could be like a bus stop in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Or a brust up or or both both. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta be both the Battle of the Bus dude.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get let's talk about Eric a little
Speaker 3: bit because we had on the CEO Barsol Sports. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a little more of a little more of a business
Speaker 3: sit down, Like we got a CEO on, we're picking
Speaker 3: her brain.
Speaker 2: She's kind of asking us questions.
Speaker 3: I think a couple of times Taylor and I are
Speaker 3: sitting there like, you know, we're around the We're around
Speaker 3: that dude at barstool, that dude at Yeah, that dude
Speaker 3: aad who beat out over seventy dudes to get that
Speaker 3: job at barstool. Who have who has to deal with
Speaker 3: in a handle and work with Dave Portnoy on a
Speaker 3: weekly basis, Who has to deal with all the hodgepodge
Speaker 3: melting pot of all different beings that is in Barstool
Speaker 3: Sports and hit all the misogyny, all this that the
Speaker 3: other the barstool bros. Well, we learned that the Barstool
Speaker 3: Bros or Suli's or broke cult.
Speaker 1: I don't know that was a bad thing, but apparently
Speaker 1: they'll get you canceled. That's a tough deal. But I
Speaker 1: just thought more like on our ninety six percent mail, Yeah,
Speaker 1: more right up that alley, buddy, We're about to get canceled.
Speaker 2: The bro culture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people say bro culture like it's like not everybody
Speaker 3: piece some people, A lot of people love it.
Speaker 2: But people say bro culture like it's like a like
Speaker 2: a like a negative thing.
Speaker 1: Right to me, if you're a bro, like, you're one
Speaker 1: of the boys, right, yeah, about the fucking you're.
Speaker 2: One of the boys.
Speaker 1: But I think it's like people by listen, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: might throw a little wrench in this thing. But people
Speaker 1: are pretty specific about what genders are. I'm like more
Speaker 1: of a generic guy when I say for the boys,
Speaker 1: there's really not a penis on that thing. It goes back,
Speaker 1: it goes on both sides, as long as your forum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your forum, it's like a generic what's that, dude, Like
Speaker 1: you said to a man and a woman for the boys, It's.
Speaker 3: Like, we're just dumb jocks. We were yelling for the
Speaker 3: boys on our football team one day. Now we're sitting
Speaker 3: on the bus. Ever of the podcast, before the Boys
Speaker 3: means for everybody.
Speaker 1: For everyone, dude, your form you're with us, Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: you're a former against them, for more against us, we're
Speaker 1: for them or against this One thing too that you'll
Speaker 1: notice about Erica. I'm not going to tell what she said,
Speaker 1: but bloss b up a really good question and then
Speaker 1: she kind of put the question back on bloss. I
Speaker 1: thought that was epic. If you guys see it comments,
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Speaker 2: Us super CEO Guys Tagerson that things.
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Speaker 3: And speaking of the engagement, we're gonna be we're gonna
Speaker 3: be dealing it a little bit more. The stuff you
Speaker 3: saw with Taylor and I in the Brass g having
Speaker 3: a little fun on social media. You guys are fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3: When you guys clap back, the trips are unbelievable and
Speaker 3: play into the church. People who bring the negative energy,
Speaker 3: those are always gonna be there. And tell me we'll
Speaker 3: always ask them to do a favor. You're living something
Speaker 3: like I needed to remember some No, we'll always ask
Speaker 3: those those negative nancies to do a favor for us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we'll also let you guys put them on their
Speaker 3: place as well. But the engagement, the fun that we're having,
Speaker 3: you guys are fucking hilarious. We have Budweiser c and
Speaker 3: d on there. What's the uh, oh, you don't remember
Speaker 3: that Budweiser. Budweiser this beautiful company h aneaser Bush. First off,
Speaker 3: I want to say, shout out to Aniser Busch. What
Speaker 3: about standing no free shouts, but shout out that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: But it's tough, right because it is so. I'm also
Speaker 1: individually sponsored by Aniser Bush. We're so it's difficult for
Speaker 1: me to kind of sit here and play that back
Speaker 1: and forth. Right, I'm not trying to be that guy,
Speaker 1: but here we are. Right, a national beer band want
Speaker 1: to say, put their put their name behind the boy. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm just carrying the car for both of us. Now,
Speaker 1: now let's sen anazer Bush. We love you to death.
Speaker 6: We love everything you do.
Speaker 2: Seriously, you guys are you guys are in your ivory tower.
Speaker 2: We love you to death.
Speaker 1: And we're looking at but you're just hoping for a
Speaker 1: piece of granola, you know what I'm saying. We want
Speaker 1: to throws as a half live turkey leg down. That's
Speaker 1: all we really want. And we started putting the bus
Speaker 1: letter out the bus went the boys. You guys were
Speaker 1: cooled it first because of u uh in the in
Speaker 1: the original because we have boys doing a podcast, little
Speaker 1: guys doing a pond. But in the original, like when
Speaker 1: we first started doing it. The local anazer Bush let us,
Speaker 1: they sponsored us, they sponsored us, and then let us
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, that's okay, Now I get it. Business
Speaker 2: is business.
Speaker 1: We're booming right now. Don't want to take one from
Speaker 1: the uh the legendary A D but a B A B. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basics is booming right now, and I understand that you
Speaker 1: guys might want a little piece of that. We would
Speaker 1: love to have you, guys, as punch sponsors, would love it.
Speaker 1: I might be sitting here, put my sword down right
Speaker 1: in front of you, shoot if you want, baby, but
Speaker 1: I'm here with love.
Speaker 2: Just love. That's all I want to give you right now. So, yes,
Speaker 2: they send us a C and D, they send us
Speaker 2: a indeed a beer brand on board. We really do.
Speaker 2: Obviously that one makes total sense. It does.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we talk about the C and D. There
Speaker 3: we go, there's the layup. We're going off our own
Speaker 3: stories like just a riffing. Hey, that's what you're here for,
Speaker 3: Alex could job talk about Taylor tells an amazing Hey,
Speaker 3: that's the best part of the episode, guy, because it
Speaker 3: went no sense there when Taylor go When Taylor does
Speaker 3: his pitch for the beer brand, you guys, will.
Speaker 2: Hear it, you guys, someone's here.
Speaker 3: When he goes on his five minute long elevator pitch
Speaker 3: fucking comment, have fun with the I know, dude, it
Speaker 3: was all time.
Speaker 1: Just know.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like, oh ship, where is this going?
Speaker 2: I didn't know the dust going to land, that plan anywhere?
Speaker 2: What was like?
Speaker 3: You know if you guys, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3: We'll let them do it, dude. I like that they'll
Speaker 3: hear it. But also good news on that is people
Speaker 3: are talking now. So if Budweiser or and I in
Speaker 3: Heuser Busch is watching, there are some conversations happening. We hope,
Speaker 3: we hope it works out for the best. We hope
Speaker 3: it plays out. Yeah, we hope it does good. Like
Speaker 3: if it does, that's fine. But the same time, would
Speaker 3: love to have you right swords down in the lster.
Speaker 3: I put it on the Ground's pretty despricul with my sword. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: And if you're already subscribed, especially on audio, unsubscribe and
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Speaker 2: It helps the Boys out tremendously.
Speaker 3: And again, seventy something percent of our audience is not
Speaker 3: subscribe to the Boys. Let's start to narrow that gap.
Speaker 3: And let's do this together because we love you and
Speaker 3: we're all we're all working together.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there'll be an added drops first, and then
Speaker 3: we will get into the episode of Eric and Ardini,
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Speaker 1: I looked at her and I said, look, the wheels
Speaker 1: aren't turned the right way today. So if I had
Speaker 1: Roman back then, maybe your boy would have took it.
Speaker 1: It just is what it is, myde I had an
Speaker 1: buddy from high school. I don't want to be that guy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to call him. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say his name, but that piece wasn't working since like
Speaker 1: seventeen years old.
Speaker 2: Not going to say names, but it's a bit of
Speaker 2: a deal. He could use Roman.
Speaker 1: Get Roman dot com slash Busting Boys, enjoy the rest
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 5: Taylor has the Pat McAfee crazy stare. Do you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, where you're like, what the fuck is
Speaker 5: going on in that brain? I was like Pat McAfee.
Speaker 2: Because you know he's thinking the entire time.
Speaker 6: Once you like, you'll sit there and talk to me.
Speaker 6: This is going to come out in like eight months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you sit there and talk to him, he'll
Speaker 3: els I go to the left a little bit, and
Speaker 3: you know, he's like, he's like he's got a holds
Speaker 3: thinking about what.
Speaker 6: I like that. Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2: That's cool. I don't know that about myself. It's kind
Speaker 2: of fun to learn something now.
Speaker 1: I think if I'm a physical statue standpoint, absolutely, But
Speaker 1: then I opened my mouth and I sound like I'm six,
Speaker 1: So it's like it kind of changes that whole process.
Speaker 2: Then people play this like limbo.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's kind of like doing one of these
Speaker 1: like but come on, and you're like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with this guy. There is like a
Speaker 1: I think there's a moment of like, yeah, missing link,
Speaker 1: but he's also like a gentle soul.
Speaker 2: Kind of and I can get mad randomly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I bet you have a very long fuse.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, and no, it really depends. It really depends,
Speaker 1: like you, I think it really really depends in the fuse,
Speaker 1: like what the category is, Okay, in the age of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, like if the word triggered, like there
Speaker 1: are a couple of things that'll snap the boy off fast,
Speaker 1: like what I don't know if I want to say
Speaker 1: out loud, I don't even know if I really anything
Speaker 1: that has to do with like, uh, money, If someone
Speaker 1: starts talking about money, I get a I get tense fast.
Speaker 6: Okay, fine, okay, Yeah, that's let's get a.
Speaker 2: Word deal that people are always trying to take from him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I.
Speaker 1: Grew up, I totally get grew up. I get that
Speaker 1: I grew up not financially secure. Yeah, and so since
Speaker 1: I am now financially secure, my biggest story is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if anybody tries to take this, I'm about to kill
Speaker 1: somebody right, break your neck, no doubt, no doubt about.
Speaker 6: It, A gentle kid or no.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: For the most part, then I hit the puberty years
Speaker 1: and that definitely got more aggressive. Like I had some
Speaker 1: issues with the law a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had assault, theft, battery, and robbery in one case, and
Speaker 1: then yeah, there was a whole like there was a
Speaker 1: phase about five years in my life. Yeah, I hit
Speaker 1: them all all but murder and grand theft coo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've made it past that. That was a fun phase,
Speaker 1: I guess. But uh yeah, I think as I just
Speaker 1: get older and I have kids now too, So it's
Speaker 1: like I ain't fighting nobody.
Speaker 6: For no reason, like an iron marshmallow.
Speaker 1: An iron marshmallow, I'll take that. I honestly doesn't even
Speaker 1: sound like a bad thing to me.
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like a bad thing. No, it really doesn't.
Speaker 2: Kind of safe, you know what I mean, kind of nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, like you feel kind of protected, but
Speaker 1: at the same time you can have a conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a heart in there. For sure, you're dangerous,
Speaker 2: but you can you're reeling it in now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you, because you're like a CEO of
Speaker 1: a big time company. I'm sure there's a lot of.
Speaker 6: Intimidation that only has iron inside got you the opposite.
Speaker 2: So you're soft and eating.
Speaker 6: Like real soft and friendly and then.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, right have the ability. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I mean, you you're the
Speaker 3: CEO of barstool.
Speaker 1: You you beat it, you sideway sometimes for sure, working
Speaker 1: at barschool.
Speaker 2: You beat out how many people like eighty dudes white dude.
Speaker 3: So yeah, eighty white dudes, which obviously you know, barstools
Speaker 3: known for misogyny bros and dudes.
Speaker 1: That's kind of our thing too, the whole misogyny thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like the second woman to ever be on this buck.
Speaker 2: We needed this.
Speaker 6: I'm like, the diversity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're checking a box today.
Speaker 1: Next to a big deal.
Speaker 2: When I was in Vegas, Uh, I was in the
Speaker 2: hot tip.
Speaker 3: I forget who was I want to say it was
Speaker 3: teamer last name team or shout out teamer.
Speaker 2: He's like but he he said, uh, you need to
Speaker 2: have you need to have more black people on the bus. Okay.
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, we got dudes on all the time,
Speaker 3: and I start rattling guys off. He's like, yeah, but
Speaker 3: you know recently, just like I mean, we got to
Speaker 3: get people to Nashville.
Speaker 2: It's not like we're not trying to have We'll have anybody.
Speaker 2: We're trying to have, right, I'll come here most anyone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh are you discerning?
Speaker 1: No, No, we'll talk to I was gonna play it
Speaker 1: that for a little bit, but I'm like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is also gonna be recorded, so I probably don't want
Speaker 1: to play that game right now.
Speaker 2: It comes out in twenty years.
Speaker 6: Okay, So how much do you buy the bus for?
Speaker 1: This bus was two thousand dollars cash. Came with all
Speaker 1: the stickers and if you see like this a little
Speaker 1: purple at the top.
Speaker 6: Those were pretty racist offensive stickers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I would say like a past defensive just
Speaker 1: strictly racist.
Speaker 6: Oh just straight up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, there were a skip all the middle,
Speaker 1: pretty aggressive, pretty fast.
Speaker 2: So we put about eight into it to do a
Speaker 2: little soundproofing.
Speaker 6: Who who owned it?
Speaker 2: Some guy.
Speaker 1: We were at this place cat Wedgewood, Houston, just off Wedgewood,
Speaker 1: and in the back of this warehouse it was like
Speaker 1: this bus and we didn't know about it. We were
Speaker 1: working with this different production company and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: like we're kind of going through ideas, like what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do for a podcast? What's the deal? And
Speaker 1: some of these guys brought up the bus. Yeah, two
Speaker 1: pieces of how terrible the name is that? Two boys?
Speaker 1: It was off the two pieces in a pod.
Speaker 6: But it was that sounds like you're no.
Speaker 1: I think it was Taylor's no yang on.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: My idea was, well, you want to call it the Den.
Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, what are we doing for wolves? You know,
Speaker 1: David Goggins and Joe Rogan, That's not who we are.
Speaker 2: But Taylor came up with.
Speaker 3: The two boys in a bus and uh, some gallon
Speaker 3: Chicago mentioned bus with the boys one bus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a play on two girls, one cup,
Speaker 1: not two pieces in a pod.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even think of two pieces in a pod
Speaker 3: without you saying it.
Speaker 2: That's untrue. You grew up in Missouri and you went
Speaker 2: to Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but right rublishing though, I wanted the Den, and
Speaker 3: I never really deviated until we found like talking about
Speaker 3: doing the for the boys thing.
Speaker 6: You should make a bar here called the Den.
Speaker 2: We're actually talking about making a ball called the bus stop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be amazing, one hundred percent do that. You
Speaker 5: know we're opening a bar here, right, do you know that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes you guys might keep stuff under
Speaker 3: the wraps.
Speaker 2: Now let the boys know.
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll tell the boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're ready to hear you.
Speaker 5: Guys should be like a huge part of it. We
Speaker 5: should make like a whole year action in the middle.
Speaker 1: Of anything you see in this podcast is contractually binding.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, when is that opening?
Speaker 6: It should open? I want to say, August, is.
Speaker 2: That why Dave was wanting to come to Nashville for
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know. He doesn't understand how cold
Speaker 6: it is here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Coming at that time, I thought it was ridiculous.
Speaker 6: It was one of no storm. I was like, that's
Speaker 6: not going to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he talks about he was on his pot talking
Speaker 3: about like seasonal depression and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, you ain't coming to Nashville and getting this.
Speaker 6: It's a great gambling state for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you guys just open up when in Tennessee.
Speaker 6: Like a month ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But yeah, I love the idea you guys are
Speaker 2: looking down.
Speaker 5: I was looking at it yesterday and Nashville is all
Speaker 5: like when you look at downtown Nashville, it's like the
Speaker 5: Eric you know, Jason al Dean, Eric Church, Like everybody's
Speaker 5: got a bar.
Speaker 6: You guys should have bar.
Speaker 1: The boys are I think, like a revolving door of bars.
Speaker 1: What they do here is like they kind of pick
Speaker 1: and they least something out like two years and will
Speaker 1: be like Jason Alden's bar, and then a couple of
Speaker 1: years from that it'll be in Brown's bar.
Speaker 6: So it didn't work, just work.
Speaker 1: No, everything on Broadway is gonna work. If you have
Speaker 1: a property on Broadway, there's gonna be so much foot traffic,
Speaker 1: there's no way you're not gonna make money. I think
Speaker 1: it's just like trying to keep up with times and
Speaker 1: so like they're in this phase.
Speaker 2: Of like, so Eric Church is hot right now the
Speaker 2: bar right Eric Church.
Speaker 1: Is probably I mean he's gotta be top five contemporary
Speaker 1: artists right now, made a big, big chunk and like
Speaker 1: the tens, I think they're kind of playing to like
Speaker 1: our age group right now hot, Yeah, because they got
Speaker 1: FGL House too, right. FGL House is right around the corner.
Speaker 1: Miranda Lambert's is right in the corner.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's kind of what they do.
Speaker 1: And then in a couple of years that will change.
Speaker 1: Like Old Red is a song of who's Blake Shelton's?
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it you guys?
Speaker 6: Pro break Blake Shelton.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there were a size to pick
Speaker 2: broke up.
Speaker 6: With Miranda Lambert. Now he's with fun.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so here's the deal with that. I actually
Speaker 1: think all's fair in love and war. Right, So he
Speaker 1: cheated or she cheated because they aren't.
Speaker 6: Meant to be.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 6: They just weren't meant to be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: But Mariana Lambert came with an album right after they
Speaker 1: broke up, basically insinuating that she was cheating.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 1: And then Blake Shelton came up a bunch of songs
Speaker 1: about how his heart was broken, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna pick sides, yeah, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna pick Mariana Lambert's side. That chick is a bad ass.
Speaker 6: He is a badass.
Speaker 1: Actually, she is my favorite women country singer for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 1: But Blake Shelton's way more famous and very tall, very tall,
Speaker 1: handsome guy. Look, yeah, he's got a bubbly personality. He's
Speaker 1: got a thick head of hair. It's really all you
Speaker 1: need when you get to that age and what you want.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can keep your hair, You're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I agree, I get in situation, right, I'm
Speaker 1: losing it a little bit. What's that the hair? She's like,
Speaker 1: if you can keep your hair, you good.
Speaker 2: She looked right at you too.
Speaker 6: But why don't you just use rogaine?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I feel like, uh, because you're like in the baby, Ah,
Speaker 5: don't do that, right.
Speaker 2: I feel like I want to do something rogae and
Speaker 2: that's not you're not okay to use.
Speaker 6: It's not great if you're trying to a baby.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that's already real. Yes, now we're gonna have more.
Speaker 1: You're both getting kind of old, ye, how I think
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's back in the that's back in the
Speaker 3: long game, bro, that's back in like Bible days when
Speaker 3: you need to have it. You need to have kids early.
Speaker 3: People are having kids all the time now of later dates,
Speaker 3: are they Yeah, people are, People are living longer, finding
Speaker 3: out new stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, Talen's dad and my wife. Her father has
Speaker 1: a kid who's three months younger than my oldest child.
Speaker 1: No way, Yes, it was a bit of a deal
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: There's a good point. Yes, well I'm.
Speaker 1: Actually playing into your argument. My wife, No, we're dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and his wife not his first wife now older? She
Speaker 1: I think she's again her mid thirties close to forty. Well, no,
Speaker 1: he has two kids. No, my wife is twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Oh okay she uh yeah, she has two kids. Wait
Speaker 1: the wife of the dad, Helen's dad has two kids
Speaker 1: or three kids, now three kids. And then we got
Speaker 1: pregnant and then she got pregnant like three months after
Speaker 1: we got pregnant.
Speaker 6: Does that take your wife off or is she cool?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean it's kind of like
Speaker 2: like this philosophy on this bus. Do what you want.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you want to have another kid, that's
Speaker 1: for you're in your relationship, then go do your thing.
Speaker 1: Do your kids want to play together? We haven't been
Speaker 1: up to Canada in like four years. It's like the
Speaker 1: the COVID stuff and then there's a passport deal less year. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're going up this summer, though, outstanding play a little hockey,
Speaker 1: because you.
Speaker 2: Guys almost got caught over there.
Speaker 1: Not a big hockey guy. When you're up there, you
Speaker 1: kind of got to pretend to play hockey, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I do that, but uh it's like center tough on
Speaker 1: the ice, a beast or terrible. I would edge on
Speaker 1: the side of being terrible.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: But I feel like if you give me a couple
Speaker 1: of months, oh, no question about it. I don't doubt that.
Speaker 1: I used to play when I was younger.
Speaker 6: Okay, you used to.
Speaker 2: It's not like riudning a bike.
Speaker 6: You don't think I think it.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I got on the skates about five years ago.
Speaker 1: Ankle bending I have. My insteps were basically touching the
Speaker 1: Yeah it was tough. I was holding, I was holding
Speaker 1: the corners. But you play a lot of hockey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I used to. It's your sport. Yeah, I like to
Speaker 1: get into that.
Speaker 5: I just spored. I wanted a new sport. I like hockey.
Speaker 5: I think it's a great sport. I think it's very
Speaker 5: violent sport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done a lot. You've done a lot for
Speaker 2: women's hockey.
Speaker 6: I've tried.
Speaker 3: What what progress do you feel like you've made in
Speaker 3: the whole thing, because it's not something I followed very
Speaker 3: closely outside of all of the outside of a lot
Speaker 3: of the social media stuff that I see, But it
Speaker 3: seems like you've done a lot of stuff for womens.
Speaker 5: Women's hockey is really insular, like it's it's actually kind
Speaker 5: of interesting. It's a sport that's driven in large part
Speaker 5: by Canadians. Canadians, by their nature, are more concerned. It's
Speaker 5: just conservative. It's tight. Hockey's tight. So there's still not
Speaker 5: a women's league. There's still I don't think there's been
Speaker 5: like a huge amount of progress. The problem is is
Speaker 5: that to make women's sports interesting, you have to market
Speaker 5: it like men's sports.
Speaker 6: Like there has to be violence, there has to be drama,
Speaker 6: there have.
Speaker 5: To be characters, people have to have beef with one another, like,
Speaker 5: there has to be a storyline that people are interested in.
Speaker 5: And people tend to market female athletes as being perfect.
Speaker 5: So it's like everybody's great for you know, it's it's
Speaker 5: the perfection is almost uninteresting I think.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Yeah, no one's gonna watch a sitcom and perfection, right,
Speaker 1: And I think they're wrong.
Speaker 5: See the hot mess and the disaster, and it's like,
Speaker 5: who's the you know, who's the Dennis Rodman of women's hockey.
Speaker 5: You have a Dennis Rodman, then you want to watch you.
Speaker 2: Know, that would be interesting to see a woman Dennis Rodman, But.
Speaker 1: How do you so the general and goal is that
Speaker 1: that women's sports get paid the same amount as men's sports.
Speaker 6: Well, I think that's everybody says that, Like, that's.
Speaker 5: That's we're all like in the goal. Yeah, but you
Speaker 5: have to what is it to back it up? Like
Speaker 5: what does it take to get paid like men? Like
Speaker 5: how many people watch a Titans game?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: Which drives the whole economics of how you guys get paid,
Speaker 5: and how the coaches get paid, how the teams get paid,
Speaker 5: how the owners make money. Unless people are watching women's sports,
Speaker 5: there's the money's never gonna flow. And you know you
Speaker 5: it's not just gonna be women watching women's sports. You
Speaker 5: have to make women's sports appeal to men.
Speaker 2: Why do you think people have such a hard time
Speaker 2: understanding that?
Speaker 1: I think that they because understanding what that you do.
Speaker 1: People can't just pay Yeah, people just pay right.
Speaker 3: People will cry out we need equal this, or men
Speaker 3: get paid this and that and the other.
Speaker 2: But you zoom out a little bit. I feel like
Speaker 2: it's not that hard money.
Speaker 1: It's not there.
Speaker 5: It's definitely not a hard concept. But then there's also
Speaker 5: there is injustice in it. Like you look at in
Speaker 5: the US women's soccer versus men's soccer. Who gives a
Speaker 5: shit about men's soccer? In the US, women's soccer is
Speaker 5: pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: You guys, Come on, people, come on soccer guy.
Speaker 1: Here, I feel Likeshville, Seashville.
Speaker 2: Yeahbout the boys?
Speaker 6: All right? Do you watch religiously? Are you like a
Speaker 6: Premier League guy?
Speaker 2: If you're gonna, if you're gonna tell use it to
Speaker 2: use your mic?
Speaker 6: Okay? How much did that cost?
Speaker 2: Four grand?
Speaker 6: That's a lot of money. I thought, so worth it
Speaker 6: for the boys. Did you pay for it yourself? I did?
Speaker 6: Did you go to every game?
Speaker 2: No? God?
Speaker 6: No, why because there's too many?
Speaker 2: So they played from like February to November. It's crazy.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's a long season.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it.
Speaker 1: That is one of the positives about playing football.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's tight.
Speaker 1: It's six months on six months off baseball, you have
Speaker 1: three months that hockey is similar that way too.
Speaker 2: It's just like, God, how.
Speaker 6: Much is a season ticket?
Speaker 5: How much does it cost to be a season ticket
Speaker 5: holder of the Titans?
Speaker 6: Do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 6: Would like one hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: No, because to have a box for the season is
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 6: Okay, so if you if you.
Speaker 1: Have a box with but the thing is if you
Speaker 1: get a box at Nissan Stadium, you have a first
Speaker 1: right refusal to any other tickets, Like if a Jason
Speaker 1: Alden or Miranda Lambert or anybody that comes and plays there,
Speaker 1: who comes, you can go and sit there and watch
Speaker 1: that or whatever. Super Slam WW is coming in July.
Speaker 1: If you want to go see that, you have first
Speaker 1: right WW.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I wish it was though back in the day hard
Speaker 3: to get into it, the stone cold days and everything else.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I feel like it's just it's
Speaker 3: just different now it is, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: plays in the more of like a superhero characters.
Speaker 6: It's safer than it used to be, right right, right right.
Speaker 1: I feel like getting into it at thirty years old
Speaker 1: would be tough knowing it's fake. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: the time for to get inceptioned, yeah was when I
Speaker 1: was six.
Speaker 6: Or younger, when you were doing Santa.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Still I am in a way. There's still a
Speaker 2: piece of hope with Santa.
Speaker 6: There's a word for the God. There's a word for this.
Speaker 5: There's a word for like there's a word for when
Speaker 5: you know something isn't true but you still believe in
Speaker 5: it anyways, Like for Santa w W.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe life could be in general, Yeah, a
Speaker 1: general thing.
Speaker 2: WW.
Speaker 1: Though McAfee's crushing WW. He's really just doing everything right
Speaker 1: now is And I don't know if you can talk
Speaker 1: about too much obviously, anything you don't want to talk about,
Speaker 1: we won't. But like, what was that process like with McAfee.
Speaker 1: Was he leaving us?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, like coming first, coming to the barstow?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well macan is awesome. It's so funny.
Speaker 5: I had a call with Twitch yesterday and the Twitch
Speaker 5: people are like.
Speaker 6: You may you may be aware of Pat McAfee and I.
Speaker 5: Was like, yeah, but McAfee was just and Mackview was like,
Speaker 5: you guys, he's just a he's just a huge talent,
Speaker 5: like he just his personality was so big on the field.
Speaker 6: He was so great at Twitter. He just was.
Speaker 5: And then I don't know if you've ever seen him
Speaker 5: in person at a live show like he his energy
Speaker 5: is electric, like he he brings it in a way
Speaker 5: that very few people do, really different than a Dave
Speaker 5: or a big cat like his.
Speaker 6: He projects so much and so well. So he was
Speaker 6: a big get for us.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was one of the first athletes that
Speaker 5: we I mean outside of Whitney. But he was one
Speaker 5: of the first athletes we had brought on. He was
Speaker 5: making the transition from you know, obviously playing to you know,
Speaker 5: his media life.
Speaker 6: I think he learned a lot. We taught him a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave taught him how to bet right. That was
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing for a while, even in business.
Speaker 6: Too, business betting distribution. How he may.
Speaker 5: I mean we built him an office, we hired you know,
Speaker 5: we built him a whole world, which you know was
Speaker 5: a really good We learned a lot, He learned a lot.
Speaker 1: But when when he is when he started doing the
Speaker 1: teaching a bunch of business stuff, was he like super
Speaker 1: eager to learn that stuff? Yeah, yeah, very aggressive about
Speaker 1: it and looking back on it, if you look at
Speaker 1: it at hindsights everything where you're like, Okay, his whole
Speaker 1: plan was to do his own thing.
Speaker 6: Definitely the whole time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, for sure. Does that make you feel sour
Speaker 2: at all?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was mutually beneficial for you know,
Speaker 5: could it have gone on longer?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Would I have had him leave differently? Definitely? But did
Speaker 5: he learn a lot? Did we learn a lot? Did
Speaker 5: we get a lot of value? He got a lot
Speaker 5: of value, right, and I'm so happy for him, Like
Speaker 5: I truly think he's crushing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that FanDuel protracte was unbelievable. But I saw
Speaker 1: a thing that Dave was talking about that there was
Speaker 1: at one point FanDuel could have had Barstool and Pat
Speaker 1: McAfee for around similar numbers correct, which is which is
Speaker 1: wild insane.
Speaker 5: I mean then I had talked to Fandle about one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million dollars price tag for Barstool, which
Speaker 5: in hindsight is crazy, yeah, slash dumb.
Speaker 1: But well it's all dumb. Yeah, this whole concept that
Speaker 1: we're that you guys are doing, that we're doing. We
Speaker 1: talked about all the time, how incredible it is that
Speaker 1: people just want to listen to us.
Speaker 6: But it's the future.
Speaker 5: I think it's so interesting, Like, yeah, it's so crazy stupid,
Speaker 5: But then you look at traditional media and you're like
Speaker 5: that's worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, no doubt, I one hundred percent agree
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: I mean I stream like YouTube, TV or apps like Netflix.
Speaker 6: What do you watch? What you watch? Sports?
Speaker 3: It's mainly for sports, Yeah, mainly for sports, and if not,
Speaker 3: it's usually like background noise, So like, you know two and.
Speaker 2: A half Men.
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, no, not news.
Speaker 2: My news is on Twitter.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, but two and a half Men, family guy,
Speaker 6: comedy guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm playing his background noise, I think yeah.
Speaker 2: But uh, Missouri Midwest?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Missouri.
Speaker 2: What do you think it is? I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like in the middle. It might just be
Speaker 2: the mid.
Speaker 3: Well, some people like to play until you like to
Speaker 3: be Southern and they'll fake their accidents.
Speaker 6: Kind of in the middle.
Speaker 2: There aren't Yeah, you got to pick your own personality.
Speaker 6: Right right, Missouri?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, it's where I grew up.
Speaker 3: You're going to go back to live. No, I don't
Speaker 3: love it like that. I think I just appreciate where
Speaker 3: I grew up.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You grew up in a
Speaker 2: small town.
Speaker 3: I go back and you look at it and you're like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe I fucking yeah.
Speaker 2: And when I'm at where I'm at now, growing up
Speaker 2: from here.
Speaker 1: But I think the half of our audience right now
Speaker 1: is like, fuck this guy.
Speaker 2: There's like, you know, there's like three thousand people in Voluntaire.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I love Missouri in a way that I
Speaker 3: appreciate it, you know what I mean, like just my
Speaker 3: upbringing and everything else.
Speaker 5: Don't you guys think you're similar to the macafew thing?
Speaker 5: Like this is tuition for you?
Speaker 2: I think similar in what way? Never paid tuition?
Speaker 6: What is it?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 6: That it's an education?
Speaker 5: Like you're you you know you get audience from Barstool Sports,
Speaker 5: You're learning how to publish video, social audio, you're making
Speaker 5: good money from it. You're learning how you're thinking about
Speaker 5: how do you build a bigger world around the bus
Speaker 5: and the brand?
Speaker 6: Like I think it's really similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's really similar.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be if you were to work with
Speaker 1: a company like Barstool and not take the time to
Speaker 1: learn the ins and outs of how your company works,
Speaker 1: you're an idiot, Like why wouldn't you take advantage of
Speaker 1: like this crash course on business which Will has done
Speaker 1: a much better job than I have, but just watching,
Speaker 1: Like I think the whole point is is like how
Speaker 1: do you get to a sustained How do you get
Speaker 1: your own small business busting with the boys to a
Speaker 1: place where it can be sustainable on its own? And
Speaker 1: I think that if any other company is doing that
Speaker 1: under an umbrella of something like Barstool isn't doing that.
Speaker 2: It's like kind of like.
Speaker 6: Why, yeah, no, I agree with that.
Speaker 5: I think that there's very few companies that are as
Speaker 5: open as we are to that, right, Like, that's what
Speaker 5: makes bart so special.
Speaker 6: You have done a great job, I think, an excellent job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the kids really picked it up.
Speaker 1: He's I say, I've said this a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: times that, especially on the Ryan Whitney podcast too, is
Speaker 1: like this bust one be what it is without him,
Speaker 1: Like will.
Speaker 2: Make this on the trail, but don't do that everything.
Speaker 2: I'll just joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was like Will Will knew his transition was
Speaker 1: coming and picked the perfect time it's on it to
Speaker 1: get it, to get into it and start learning.
Speaker 2: So I take no, it's all the time for the boy,
Speaker 2: But I haven't.
Speaker 5: Think it's true for people who work at Barcel, right,
Speaker 5: Like that's there's a ton of people at Barcel who
Speaker 5: don't take advantage of.
Speaker 1: It, which is wild because it's like the guy Trent
Speaker 1: when we first went in there the first time, big
Speaker 1: Bachelor guy and he walks in.
Speaker 2: Now he's doing the luggage thing.
Speaker 1: And now he's got two hundred thousan followers on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's like, you can you can have your own thing now.
Speaker 1: You can literally make your own tiny business through that.
Speaker 1: Like you need to make sure you're doing everything you can.
Speaker 1: He's just one example. Yeah, and uh, I mean all
Speaker 1: those people in there. You can't just be like the
Speaker 1: whole the whole goal is not to be a pawn
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme.
Speaker 2: It's how do you turn yourself into a queen?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. How do you how do you feel?
Speaker 5: Like sometimes I struggle and like when you're on the
Speaker 5: field and there's stuff you don't want to talk about
Speaker 5: and there's shit that shouldn't go on the air, but
Speaker 5: you have this how do you balance the two?
Speaker 2: Well, it really depends on the person.
Speaker 1: Like for me with football, I just have a general
Speaker 1: to keep everything more vanilla.
Speaker 2: But there's no reason for me.
Speaker 1: I have my own outlet to say what I want,
Speaker 1: so to the the basic media. When I go and
Speaker 1: talk on a weekly basis, it's say the basic things.
Speaker 1: You know, don't give the other team bulletin board material
Speaker 1: and move on to Sunday. That's kind of all you
Speaker 1: really need to do here.
Speaker 6: You like they'll belichick this.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes to an extent. Obviously, I put a little
Speaker 1: more flavor in next. That's just who I am. Ye.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Never say anything like, oh, we're going to fuck this
Speaker 1: team up with this guy's trash. That would just it's
Speaker 1: just stupid to do that. When it comes to this,
Speaker 1: it's like you can kind of say whatever you want,
Speaker 1: Like I have rules. I follow rules that Mike Vrabel
Speaker 1: or head coach, is kind of put in place, like
Speaker 1: don't talk about injuries, don't talk about.
Speaker 2: About guys, compare guys.
Speaker 1: Don't talk about scheme, and then kind of speak for yourself,
Speaker 1: don't speak for anybody else. Those are his rules as
Speaker 1: far as like when you go to talk to the
Speaker 1: media in general on the team. So I would feel like,
Speaker 1: I figure, it's it's smart for me to do that
Speaker 1: here too, like playing scheme, teams plays, what defenses are doing,
Speaker 1: what we do, what we like to lean on, because
Speaker 1: it's like, why would you give anything up that another
Speaker 1: team can look? All right, we play the Titans in October, Yeah,
Speaker 1: make sure we have that down. So it's not really
Speaker 1: it's not very difficult to navigate that part. The hard
Speaker 1: part for me to Navigate is doing this during the
Speaker 1: season because like on a win, everything is great.
Speaker 2: People love you, think it's amazing.
Speaker 1: You lose, everyone's like this fucking guy and this podcast
Speaker 1: what a piece of shit?
Speaker 2: All he cares about it.
Speaker 1: No, I think the locker room they are people have
Speaker 1: become fans. I went when I'm playing football games, guys
Speaker 1: will come up to me during games timeouts and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: give me on the bush.
Speaker 6: That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll give them that. Maybe we'll see, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of shrug them off a little bit.
Speaker 2: Tell them your uh, your how you interview? Tell me
Speaker 2: your best story. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: We had one kid he actually actually told him if
Speaker 1: he made the team because he was undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1: I was like, if you made the team, come in
Speaker 1: the pod. And he's a d tackle from Michigan State
Speaker 1: and he's like, let me get on the bus. Let
Speaker 1: me on the bus, and I'm like, tell me your
Speaker 1: best story right now, and he usually just freeze his
Speaker 1: dudes up, like if he you don't have the stories.
Speaker 2: Like what are you to come on the bus for?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 2: To do? What? Sit here and be like you're here,
Speaker 2: You've made it.
Speaker 1: On the air, there is camera so yeah. We usually
Speaker 1: do that on the on the field too. If there's
Speaker 1: like a long TV timeout and I'm around the guy
Speaker 1: and the askah, give me your best story right now,
Speaker 1: and they'll kind of be like, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta take a fucking walk. Then yeah, there's the reason.
Speaker 2: Why I'm doing this and you're not.
Speaker 1: They go scoot, buddy, and then you're like, bam, yeah,
Speaker 1: so what did you This is a podcast for you,
Speaker 1: not for us, not for me.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go off the you were talking about
Speaker 3: the Mike Rabel like values that you kind of brought
Speaker 3: on the bus. You guys have been talking about doing
Speaker 3: core values now, and then I listened to Dave and
Speaker 3: Dave's like, I don't know what the you know, he
Speaker 3: hates it, and then he hears somebody He's like, yay,
Speaker 3: I drive with those. Why do you feel like it's
Speaker 3: been important to bring on core values? You feel like
Speaker 3: it's being because you guys have grown how many employees
Speaker 3: over the last year over seventies?
Speaker 5: So when I got to Barsol twenty sixteen, there were
Speaker 5: fifteen of us. I guess like it was super small,
Speaker 5: like it was like this not even this big as
Speaker 5: as your space.
Speaker 2: Is a short bus.
Speaker 5: It is a short bus. Yeah, just because well's on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. How do you always say hit kitchen
Speaker 2: hands that stuff? Ok, that's I welcome it. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you?
Speaker 3: I guess so it's my energy. I guess yeah, on
Speaker 3: her on that Whitney podcast. Yeah, I spin it at
Speaker 3: some point. It's always smile.
Speaker 6: Really.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: When I first met my old whenever we would take
Speaker 1: a picture of you like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah we're talking about photos. Yeah, not that I didn't
Speaker 3: laugh my ass off.
Speaker 2: Oh what happened on every goddamn show? Oh yeah they're fake.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pull them up. No they don't come out,
Speaker 2: but yeah.
Speaker 6: I had like somebody knocks them out or like a
Speaker 6: little chicklets back.
Speaker 2: And I dated a girl in high school that had
Speaker 2: teeth faste.
Speaker 1: She like really yeah, she's like a retainer.
Speaker 2: It was like holding fourteenth.
Speaker 6: In really inappropriate to say, let's hear that in a second,
Speaker 6: but this.
Speaker 1: Is let's quickly look at this middle one fourth one
Speaker 1: in from then on the on the first row, look
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 2: Oh look at those things. It totally changed him. It
Speaker 2: changed him as a person.
Speaker 6: It changed you always dying to do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, once I kind of got in the league
Speaker 3: and it was good for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was always something I kind of wanted to do.
Speaker 3: And then when I came to Tennessee and I was
Speaker 3: in like a new a new place, on a new team,
Speaker 3: you know, a new team knew me. Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: I ended up getting them, and everybody would try and
Speaker 3: like do the whole like, hey, it's your stitch man,
Speaker 3: like it's part of your personality. You can't change that,
Speaker 3: and nobody cares and z. But now it's a little different.
Speaker 3: Now you look back at it.
Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, fuck, his mouth was fucked up.
Speaker 6: But at the time they were like, that's your character.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: A couple of people would be like, oh, you don't
Speaker 3: even look that much different. But now that we get
Speaker 3: kind of removed or somebody who doesn't even know I had.
Speaker 2: Fakedy or have faketies, so they're like, oh, ship, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're outstanding.
Speaker 6: They are.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, because you think when people do venears,
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to fuck up because you could go
Speaker 1: too white or too big of a tooth in different
Speaker 1: shapes sizes.
Speaker 2: You did a good job.
Speaker 6: Now like bling on them, like detail on it.
Speaker 1: I would get a grill if I were you, I
Speaker 1: would absolutely get a grill.
Speaker 2: No for what? What? Grill for what to have?
Speaker 1: No, you get a grill, you pop it on over
Speaker 1: the teeth just so you can have a little something
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 6: But what's the girl going to be? Just gold? Gold
Speaker 6: could be diamonds, could be black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do it for a job. Would get like a
Speaker 2: grill to be like, oh, I want to fucking grill.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to have a grill to play in
Speaker 1: a football game because I think a white dual with a.
Speaker 2: Grill will be hilarious.
Speaker 6: You should do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm might. I think I'm my.
Speaker 1: I need I need Barcela film me about five ten
Speaker 1: to ten kids, help you out.
Speaker 6: I can appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Sponsored would be like a Chevy keeper on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get a keeper on my grill.
Speaker 3: Value ship Okay, sorry value shut it up like we're
Speaker 3: on token CEO or not. You're your own busting with
Speaker 3: the boys, your show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay on the fastest growing podcasting barceal history. Maybe
Speaker 1: class as we're going it's incredible.
Speaker 5: But Core values, core value, so we needed so we
Speaker 5: this year we have three hundred people who work at
Speaker 5: Barschool Sports, which means basically what's happening is there's people
Speaker 5: who work for people who work for people who are hot,
Speaker 5: Like we're bringing on so many people that even I
Speaker 5: used to have every person who worked for Barstool.
Speaker 6: On my phone. I would have their cell phone in
Speaker 6: my phone and I would know who they were.
Speaker 5: And because in the early days, it was we were
Speaker 5: always in trouble and there's always something going wrong, so
Speaker 5: you needed to reach someone at any time, anywhere. But
Speaker 5: when we got so big, you just kind of get
Speaker 5: disconnected from like who are we hiring and what are
Speaker 5: they doing? And you know how they get here and
Speaker 5: what do they know of Barstool Sports, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? And the thing that I get worried about
Speaker 5: is when we start to look like other companies, Like
Speaker 5: the bigger we get, the more we have to work
Speaker 5: to stay. Like the pirate ship, when you add a
Speaker 5: lot of people, you just become like bigger. You've just
Speaker 5: become a bigger company, you know what I mean, more corporate.
Speaker 5: And I don't really want to be corporate. I do
Speaker 5: think we should be really effective. So we we have
Speaker 5: eight values, right, and we rolled the values out because
Speaker 5: basically we're hiring a lot of people. We should be
Speaker 5: firing a lot of people, and we should be hiring
Speaker 5: and firing people based on those values, right like common sense?
Speaker 2: Boys.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm just thinking that's we were literally
Speaker 3: just talking about doing thats trying.
Speaker 6: To hire people.
Speaker 3: No, nobody, We were just doing like an exercise last
Speaker 3: week where were a.
Speaker 1: Couple of people who have been in the back there
Speaker 1: hanging out my thread were there's a couple of out there.
Speaker 3: Learned like putting together core values and then it kind
Speaker 3: of dictates the longevity of them, like being there.
Speaker 2: I got it from the book Traction.
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't read that book. You strike me as
Speaker 5: someone to read.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I read a lot. I dabble in
Speaker 3: a lot of business books. Well, I get the stuff
Speaker 3: and then I think I have an idea. I start
Speaker 3: running with the idea, I forget to continue to read
Speaker 3: the book, and then I got to come back around
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 6: Okay, so I know, so we have values?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the core eight values? Put? It makes sense?
Speaker 6: That's easy. That's like the Dave Port and my value.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, he doesn't didn't He's got more common sense.
Speaker 5: Now, big common sense guy sometimes doesn't use common sense, right, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Would agree sometimes doesn't use common sense. Right.
Speaker 6: That's that's Dave.
Speaker 5: That's one to be the solution, not part of the problem.
Speaker 5: So as we get bigger, it's easy just to sit
Speaker 5: around and like rubber necks on, like everything everybody else
Speaker 5: is doing wrong, but like what are you doing to
Speaker 5: fix it? I get very irritated with that. So that's
Speaker 5: a value. Another value is put the stoolies first, like
Speaker 5: put your put your fan first, whether your fan or
Speaker 5: your customer is a salesperson or a brand or stooley
Speaker 5: or whatever it may be. Like the difference with us
Speaker 5: is that we're just so close to the audience that
Speaker 5: if you're on television, the people at NBC don't really
Speaker 5: ever think about who's watching this episode of this show.
Speaker 5: It's a number in a Nielsen rating book, right, Like
Speaker 5: you guys are thinking about it because people are chirping
Speaker 5: you based on whether your guests sucked or they agreed
Speaker 5: with what you said, or they disagree or they think
Speaker 5: they should be in a different tier or whatever. So
Speaker 5: keeping your fan first is really important. Like Big Cat's
Speaker 5: very good about this, Like Big Cat has one of
Speaker 5: the single highest engagements at barstool because he talks to
Speaker 5: people all the time.
Speaker 6: He's just always responding. He's always talking to them.
Speaker 5: He tweets, I want to say in a week on
Speaker 5: average like something like two hundred plus time. Oh shit,
Speaker 5: So there's these products. He's a great follow, he's a
Speaker 5: great follow, he's great at Twitter. But he also is
Speaker 5: highly engaging because he puts it. He's always thinking when
Speaker 5: they do when they do part. In my take, it's
Speaker 5: the awl like, how do they think about the listener?
Speaker 5: How do they think about the listener? So that's value?
Speaker 6: What other values?
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Speaker 5: Be authentic, so don't be kind of like the vrabel thing, like,
Speaker 5: don't be something you're not don't speak to something you
Speaker 5: don't know. That's an important one. Next one is just
Speaker 5: diversity of thought. Like people think that barstool's so not diverse,
Speaker 5: but if you walk around New York our office in
Speaker 5: New York, like we got a lot of weird people.
Speaker 5: We got people who come from all different places. So
Speaker 5: being open to other people's ideas. As we've grown, we've
Speaker 5: we tend to have people who just want to hold
Speaker 5: things tight and theyre like we do this because we
Speaker 5: do it this way, and it's like, well, why the
Speaker 5: fuck do you do it that way?
Speaker 6: Is that the best way to do it?
Speaker 5: People at work, I think don't like to be challenged,
Speaker 5: Like you're challenged all the time on the.
Speaker 6: Field, like why did you do that play? That was dumb?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like we talked about this when you joined, Like you
Speaker 5: guys get a lot of very critical feedback.
Speaker 1: And it's literally like, right will you come off the field?
Speaker 1: If you have three and out and then you come
Speaker 1: off the field. The coaches only be like have that plays,
Speaker 1: like why what are you doing here? Like this is
Speaker 1: not your guy, You're not supposed to be doing this technique.
Speaker 1: It's very quick and it's weird for us time and
Speaker 1: at halftime for the game, and after the game, and
Speaker 1: right like in the morning, like you hit and then
Speaker 1: the game and then god forbid you watch it by
Speaker 1: yourself and you had a bad game. You're just watching
Speaker 1: that thing on repeat, goingsaying right, the tears fucking just sad.
Speaker 2: Second for the next day, you're like, fuck, are you watching? No.
Speaker 1: We used to be when we first started, we would
Speaker 1: call each other the way home from from podcast, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you think that was good? Like we have done
Speaker 1: different blah blah blah, And we're finding more of a
Speaker 1: groove now of just like really enjoying it and not
Speaker 1: cutting as much stuff. Okay, we've had a couple of
Speaker 1: pods that we had to cut what thirty forty five
Speaker 1: minutes ago. A couple of people bad, a couple guys
Speaker 1: get a little tips, a couple of guys feel, you know.
Speaker 1: And then also we like to be like friendly to
Speaker 1: the person that's on the podcast. So if we had
Speaker 1: like a we had a Roman yoce on who's the
Speaker 1: captain of the Predators, and we were telling like first
Speaker 1: time we jerked off stories and he told his story
Speaker 1: and then he left and called me and it was like,
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have done.
Speaker 2: That, so we just cut it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was hilarious, and so I think through
Speaker 1: that it's become it's just become more fun. Like we
Speaker 1: sit on here for forty five minutes to an hour
Speaker 1: and it's an absolute blast.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's it's all what it should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the stuff we do is
Speaker 3: comes from outside of like maybe the actual like stuff
Speaker 3: we're saying in the episode, like we're always talking, like
Speaker 3: we're all always kind of like game planning, the way
Speaker 3: we might word content, the way we might do stuff
Speaker 3: on YouTube.
Speaker 1: The way we post being changing up Twitter. So I
Speaker 1: mean a little bit.
Speaker 3: But as far as like us being on the bus,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think we listened to a whole
Speaker 3: lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: I listened to a lot.
Speaker 3: Of the clips, and then you'll try and find like
Speaker 3: you know, like watching Big Cat from before him the
Speaker 3: way he talks to his audience. You start to figure
Speaker 3: out like these blueprints that are out there and it's like,
Speaker 3: how can I kind of take my unique way of.
Speaker 2: Doing that to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So look like I think that's I think most
Speaker 5: people don't like feedback.
Speaker 6: You can't hear me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. When you turn your head, I
Speaker 2: get a little like, oh, maybe I need to get that.
Speaker 6: Look closer you are.
Speaker 1: And that's a weird thing like the real world that
Speaker 1: I think is like difficult. Real world people don't understand,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like if you're criticized, people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: something's wrong with me.
Speaker 2: I'm this, I'm that.
Speaker 1: It's like no, dude, Like you just got to figure
Speaker 1: the shit out, Like you just stop. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: just stop taking ship personally all the time, you're probably
Speaker 1: going to be a thousand times better off as a
Speaker 1: person in general. And so that's kind of even when
Speaker 1: we started this working with people and not these guys
Speaker 1: have gotten way better, but the people we originally worked
Speaker 1: with and stuff like that, and kind of as we
Speaker 1: got to this core group, it's like you kind of
Speaker 1: say something that's like, hey, you got to be better
Speaker 1: and and they get all but hurt and they're upset
Speaker 1: and like the next day like, hey, you kind of.
Speaker 2: Hurt my feelings, like much trying to hurt your feelings.
Speaker 1: Like we just got to say like, hey, don't do this,
Speaker 1: do that whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And so I mean, will that you're like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a probably with you too, Like
Speaker 3: you get in a lot of new people into the building,
Speaker 3: like there is a time like I know for me,
Speaker 3: if somebody might take something the wrong way, Like I know,
Speaker 3: for me, maybe I got to figure out how I
Speaker 3: can communicate better with them, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: versus like, Okay, I'm trying to tell you X, Y
Speaker 3: and Z, and if I'm feeling frustrated telling you it
Speaker 3: and you're for some reason missing it or not getting it,
Speaker 3: then I could probably do a better job of explaining
Speaker 3: it the way coaches are with us. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 3: the way you are with people coming in creating more
Speaker 3: of a culture and people kind of getting like a miscommunication, right,
Speaker 3: It goes down through different people and by the end
Speaker 3: of it, they're like, well, why wasn't I in the
Speaker 3: loop on this? It's just like, you know, we're not
Speaker 3: figuring out how to communicate.
Speaker 6: A little bit better too and be efficient.
Speaker 1: Efficiency's got to be tough with three hundred employees though,
Speaker 1: And how do you know things my.
Speaker 6: New favorite game.
Speaker 5: So I go into a meeting right now, and I
Speaker 5: go into the Google meeting, and I see how many
Speaker 5: people are in the meeting, and then I divide the
Speaker 5: amount of money we make from that brand by the
Speaker 5: number of people by department.
Speaker 6: So I'll give you an example. So we had a
Speaker 6: meeting the other day.
Speaker 5: We had twenty nine people on it, twenty nine people
Speaker 5: from our fucking company on this meeting. We do twelve
Speaker 5: thousand dollars in merch revenue from this particular person and
Speaker 5: we had like five four people technically on the invite
Speaker 5: there were five, so I divided it by five.
Speaker 6: But it's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 5: Like that's stupid, Like everyone should run their business like
Speaker 5: they're a CEO, whether you're running the bus or you're
Speaker 5: running a brand at barstool, or you're growing advertising or
Speaker 5: commerce or like everybody should like we I don't like inertia.
Speaker 6: And I think sometimes when.
Speaker 5: You get to three hundred people or you look at
Speaker 5: you know, ESPN or NBC are ten to you know,
Speaker 5: fIF teen times that size, it's just a lot of
Speaker 5: people who just float things around all day, and it's
Speaker 5: like that's annoying, Like why that's you don't want to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 6: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: From the fat Fat got it from the fat.
Speaker 6: Why do we have four people. Why why?
Speaker 5: What is either so broken in this group that we
Speaker 5: needed four people to hear the same thing, Like that's crazy, So.
Speaker 2: I guess that checks for all those people.
Speaker 5: Exactly, it's like fifth grade girls soccer, right, know what
Speaker 5: I mean? Or it's just like everybody's clumped on the
Speaker 5: ball and nobody's passing or receiving.
Speaker 6: Or know where the goal is.
Speaker 3: Right, because you've recently said you need to start killing
Speaker 3: shit at barstool, definitely that's the type of stuff that
Speaker 3: you're talking about.
Speaker 5: That and then we need, like we have a bunch
Speaker 5: of brands where if you're not if you're a talent
Speaker 5: at Barstool Sports and you're not willing to like hoofit
Speaker 5: on your brand, then why are we I'll.
Speaker 6: Give you an example.
Speaker 5: Everybody bitches about homepage promotion right all day long, just
Speaker 5: complains about homepage promotion.
Speaker 6: Or I had a guy, I had a talent.
Speaker 5: I had a talent last week who personality who was like,
Speaker 5: I need a raise, I need a bigger contract, I
Speaker 5: need a raise. I'm doing so much. I was like,
Speaker 5: all right, let me go look at your Instagram. The
Speaker 5: last time you promoted merch on your Instagram was in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, it's like March of twenty twenty two. So
Speaker 5: like no, like we're not doing a raise. So it's
Speaker 5: like you got to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 5: And then it's also if people if the best part
Speaker 5: of barstool sports is the freedom, like you can do
Speaker 5: whatever you want, Like Dave will never block that, I
Speaker 5: will never block that. We want to enable really smart, funny,
Speaker 5: creative people to do literally whatever they want. If you
Speaker 5: don't take advantage of that, then like we're not gonna
Speaker 5: babysit you. And that's the difference, like we're not gonna
Speaker 5: What we started doing wrong, quite honestly, is we started
Speaker 5: to like give everybody a crutch, and we started to
Speaker 5: give everybody a handout and give everybody like a little
Speaker 5: bit of a leg up, which just condition from them
Speaker 5: to ask for more versus learning how to do it
Speaker 5: for themselves.
Speaker 2: And what ways are you giving crushes.
Speaker 5: Like, oh, hey, let us get you a camera guye
Speaker 5: let us get you another producer. Let's let us give
Speaker 5: you someone to do the social for you.
Speaker 6: Give them all the tools, all the.
Speaker 5: Tools, but then they never had the thing. Yeah, And
Speaker 5: it's like if you don't have the thing, then why
Speaker 5: should you have all the tools right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Well, how do you teach them?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: How do you go about teaching them now?
Speaker 5: Well, now it's like, go do it yourself, and if
Speaker 5: it growsed, I mean, you guys are the perfect example
Speaker 5: of this. You had this before we even came along, right,
Speaker 5: You knew what you wanted. You had a vision, you
Speaker 5: knew the dynamic, you knew the vibe you wanted to create,
Speaker 5: you knew the things you wanted to talk about, you
Speaker 5: knew the environment you were going to build, and then
Speaker 5: you came to us and we're like, hey, help help
Speaker 5: us blow it up?
Speaker 6: Like we need a partner.
Speaker 5: People need to do the same thing now, Like if
Speaker 5: you need like if you look at all that matters
Speaker 5: right now is one minute videos on the internet, period,
Speaker 5: full stop. Long form doesn't really matter. Short form, social
Speaker 5: video is the name the game? Original video? What is
Speaker 5: the what do the algorithms want? The algorithms want the
Speaker 5: phone as close to your face as possible.
Speaker 6: You do not need a producer for that, or a.
Speaker 5: Cameraman or an editor, or a graphics guy or a
Speaker 5: social person like basically the back of the bus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get the boys were set right now, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of boys here.
Speaker 6: You have a big team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think with that too, Like obviously
Speaker 3: having a show, I think like plays into it. There
Speaker 3: could be different examples, right right. You could be like
Speaker 3: if I'm an employee at barstool and I'm a talent
Speaker 3: at barstool, very much like the Little sass is the
Speaker 3: Caleb Presley's, like the guys who can sit there and
Speaker 3: hold their camera and use their phone and just use
Speaker 3: their phone. Yeah, obviously you got these guys because.
Speaker 2: We gotta get an operation going on in a show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a very produced show. You're building the bust
Speaker 5: in world. You need to produce that. You also need
Speaker 5: to compliment it with short form one minute videos of
Speaker 5: your faces, right, you.
Speaker 6: Know what I mean?
Speaker 2: We could probably do a better job one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: especially me. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I've definitely you It's nuanced, you know, it's definitely it's.
Speaker 1: A it's a balancing game for me, But I think
Speaker 1: I've taken it. I've done obviously way more of this
Speaker 1: offseason than I probably ever have.
Speaker 5: I think you're more relaxed than I've ever seen you
Speaker 5: right now in general and now Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I probably agree with that. Hey kick
Speaker 1: me again, I'll beat you at this place? Has that relaxed? No,
Speaker 1: I triggering exactly. That was an example of how I
Speaker 1: get tired fat, how do we hold it to do well?
Speaker 3: And we were just talking and coming back from the
Speaker 3: Magni Show, like, man, they just have fun, they get
Speaker 3: their jokes and they start doing feed into it.
Speaker 1: I mean it gets mad when we're just trying to
Speaker 1: do the snaps. No, I definitely am uh, this is
Speaker 1: the most calm I felt.
Speaker 2: Probably. Oh, last three year has been tough.
Speaker 1: It's been it's been tough for like with a PD
Speaker 1: than an ACL coming back from an a CL It's
Speaker 1: just been not fun. And so this is a place
Speaker 1: where I think it's just it's just fun to do well.
Speaker 2: It's a yeah, it's and it's it's easy.
Speaker 1: In a way like the it's harder work, but it's
Speaker 1: easy because it's fun. Like I'm enjoying doing this and
Speaker 1: I'm realizing now more than ever that this is like
Speaker 1: a fun if life was a game, this is the
Speaker 1: game I want to play, you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm yeah, I've definitely been enjoying this.
Speaker 6: Helpful to you guys on that, what do you Whitney
Speaker 6: like in life after.
Speaker 1: He was like the way he came in, did the
Speaker 1: pod and had to boogie. But when we were talking,
Speaker 1: that is something I think every athlete thinks about. It's like,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen after I'm done? And when you first
Speaker 1: get in the NFL or whatever sport you are. I'm
Speaker 1: an example of this is like I'm I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: till I die. I'm gonna die on the football field,
Speaker 1: and it's like you get t your eight and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: like my knees are shot. More than half of it's
Speaker 1: over now, you know what I'm saying, Like how much
Speaker 1: more you got in you? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: And I'm super lucky that will came to me with this.
Speaker 2: Three years ago.
Speaker 1: It was like let's do a podcasting or whatever, and
Speaker 1: now it's like became way bigger than I think we
Speaker 1: ever expected, and so it's it's been a cool deal.
Speaker 1: I think most I think a lot of guys jump
Speaker 1: into real estate for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: Guys are jumping in real estate. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: people like if I have a conversation with something, who
Speaker 3: were we talking to? I forget who we were talking to,
Speaker 3: but they were saying, like players will reach out to
Speaker 3: them all the time for media gigs or media help
Speaker 3: and trying to get into the media world, talking you
Speaker 3: wait until you wait until the game's over to try
Speaker 3: and get into stuff. Yeah, it's very like diluted after that,
Speaker 3: like you become a former player and ex player. It
Speaker 3: seems to me, for like lack of a better term
Speaker 3: or easiest way to describe it, you seem a little
Speaker 3: more desperate trying to get into something versus striking while
Speaker 3: the iron's hot, like while you're in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Ryan does help about with that.
Speaker 3: That Ryan Whitney, Pat McAfee, all these guys that we've
Speaker 3: had on who are successful now outside and off the
Speaker 3: football field, because that's those are guys that I've like
Speaker 3: looked to for examples and like how do they do it?
Speaker 3: And everything else because three years ago I thought at
Speaker 3: that point, I thought that next year would probably be
Speaker 3: my last year based on the year before. Fortunately I've
Speaker 3: been able to do a few more. But last year,
Speaker 3: I know, what's crazy. Yeah, what's crazy is, uh, yesterday
Speaker 3: I'll tell who it was after the pot, But yesterday
Speaker 3: I get a message basically say hey, we possibly have
Speaker 3: a spot if you want to be our fourth linebacker,
Speaker 3: call the defense and play special teams. M M yeah,
Speaker 3: talking about you know when you know, I'm responding like
Speaker 3: if this is real, like keep me in the loop,
Speaker 3: but what I have to show up for training camp?
Speaker 2: I know who it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll talk about it after without saying it,
Speaker 3: but uh, but yeah, every year does feel like and it's.
Speaker 2: Just I don't know, I feel like I'm.
Speaker 3: A lot more comfortable in my chair now versus you
Speaker 3: have some insecurities on who you're gonna be after not
Speaker 3: being a football player, Like there's that party that wants
Speaker 3: to play football badly or to be seen such a
Speaker 3: certain way on the football field, and like it's just
Speaker 3: you know, you you gain awareness and perspective on this
Speaker 3: situation to where it's like you just find your groove
Speaker 3: and everything else and you become more relaxed and like
Speaker 3: who you are.
Speaker 2: I feel like, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every year a few years ago to be like
Speaker 3: I'm retired after this year. We're staring after this year.
Speaker 3: I mean, I still pretty much say it. But Charle,
Speaker 3: my wife was asking me not too long ago, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to never say never anymore.
Speaker 3: Justin Bieber said that, right, right, right, because you never
Speaker 3: want to be so committed to something that you won't
Speaker 3: take like a better situation.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: Are you bored?
Speaker 2: No, not at all. I'm just fixing my mustache. I'm
Speaker 2: enjoying this conversation.
Speaker 6: You use gel No, I don't use nothing.
Speaker 2: I should.
Speaker 1: It's just gotten so long. I need to do something
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 6: We're gonna do and reader what, Oh.
Speaker 2: We're gonna hit the ass? You want to do that?
Speaker 6: I want to talk about bud Weiser.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so do we That navigates too, because you know,
Speaker 3: we don't want to ever come out.
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with who is a Paul
Speaker 1: who does all of the legal and I was sending
Speaker 1: him the other day what a podcast for Will? He's
Speaker 1: just getting lots of compliments. This is a way digger than.
Speaker 2: The Ryan Whitney podcast. It's just like the opposite.
Speaker 1: It was like you and I'm such a cheap too,
Speaker 1: my joining and yeah you are great.
Speaker 2: You started he started it when you started talking. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're a piece of shit. Will. I want to say
Speaker 2: you started it? What do you mean you say? Hey?
Speaker 2: You got to get your word count up. Well, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: you were like a tweet.
Speaker 1: At that point, We're thirty minutes inacters already talked about this.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to be a better listener.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta be No, I'm saying you as in
Speaker 3: like I got so said, yeah, one must be a
Speaker 3: better listener.
Speaker 6: That's smart as a technique.
Speaker 1: This right here, the yes, the outline or the numbers,
Speaker 1: well the numbers, who cares? WHOA don't say that? Now
Speaker 1: this is my go back. Yeah, it's my favorite part
Speaker 1: of the podcast. Oh really, it's me knowing where I'm at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so how much more time do we have?
Speaker 2: Well that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: That's when we started. Actually it's already served its purpose.
Speaker 1: But but this is for some reason, I have a
Speaker 1: weird deal with it. I have to like, no, you
Speaker 1: have to know where we are. Where we are, okay,
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, I gotta know saying you like the outline.
Speaker 6: I just think it's a smart way to do it.
Speaker 3: We started getting that's a great example right there, you
Speaker 3: get all the beam path.
Speaker 2: Or like, oh, this is important.
Speaker 3: She asked questions to Taylor, and then we started getting
Speaker 3: a little deviate off the path.
Speaker 1: We did do a path in the beginning that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out way to get back to which
Speaker 1: I'll figure out that way in a second.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Outstanding people. We're gonna say navigate the conversation.
Speaker 3: What I was saying with Paul is I just send
Speaker 3: him like six different videos before I could put that
Speaker 3: one on the internet, because he's like, you know, you
Speaker 3: don't say you know, you might want to not want
Speaker 3: to say this or.
Speaker 5: Budweiser, I would Why are you giving a legal person
Speaker 5: that much control of your life?
Speaker 2: I don't. It's just personally, I would love to work
Speaker 2: with Budweiser.
Speaker 6: So you don't want to sit there, Why Budweiser? Why
Speaker 6: Budweiser is.
Speaker 1: Never going to work with you because we already do
Speaker 1: it for him all day long.
Speaker 5: But probably their biggest ad spend that they spend zero dollars.
Speaker 7: So then why do we got to get to C
Speaker 7: and D exactly bud Wise, we have a we have
Speaker 7: a complicated relationship with Budweiser. Why is that because so
Speaker 7: one loved them, love the Aannheuser Busch company. But and
Speaker 7: they used to be a big, big partner for Barstool,
Speaker 7: like one of the earliest advertisers awesome, would work with
Speaker 7: them in a heartbeat, but I think they started to
Speaker 7: see us as competitive right when we launched Pink Whitney
Speaker 7: and we started to we started we had talked to
Speaker 7: them about doing something together, launching something together, and then
Speaker 7: I think they were like, are you a friend or
Speaker 7: are you a foe?
Speaker 6: Because ultimately, like you should have a beer partner.
Speaker 1: You have a bug on the bus, I know, especially
Speaker 1: the first time, it really is like an investigation. This
Speaker 1: has happened, but don't don't let the bug track. So
Speaker 1: they thought you were friend or foe. They didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do with you.
Speaker 6: Don't know what to do with you.
Speaker 5: So and then they get a lot They were getting
Speaker 5: a lot of free advertising, right, Like Dana Beers was like,
Speaker 5: you know, he's crushing right. Million one were feeling their
Speaker 5: like Northeastern product budget because we're just buying so many beers.
Speaker 6: But and also it's just a ton of free advertising.
Speaker 5: And brands are smart like that when they get free ads,
Speaker 5: they're not going to pay for them, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some some brands are just more advanced than others.
Speaker 2: Like Apple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Apple will send out their headphones to players and
Speaker 1: be like don't even post about it. Just wear them,
Speaker 1: just enjoy these and that's it.
Speaker 6: And you probably love that even more.
Speaker 1: I think, oh great, I'm getting headphones, and then you
Speaker 1: realize you take a picture and the headphones in as
Speaker 1: you're walking in the locker room, and that's all they wanted.
Speaker 6: That's all they got you, just like that.
Speaker 2: Madden. This is a great example.
Speaker 3: Player ratings are Madden, and you get everyone all fucking
Speaker 3: up in arms about Mad ratings.
Speaker 2: It's just free advertising, no doubt.
Speaker 1: So how do you navigate the waters with Budweiser given
Speaker 1: this situation? You're at the bug. The bug is now
Speaker 1: part of the bus that we have to accept that
Speaker 1: as if that thing was buzzing in my face a
Speaker 1: second ago.
Speaker 6: Is this going to trigger you or no?
Speaker 1: No, this is not a trigger point for me. The
Speaker 1: authority is the thing that triggers me the most. I
Speaker 1: have an issue with authority. Okay, yeah, but anyway, it's.
Speaker 6: Not about an authority issue, not really.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I have awareness.
Speaker 7: Okay, so that's outstanding.
Speaker 2: That was a perfectly place all right.
Speaker 6: So but let's get you a beer.
Speaker 3: Partner, dude, I I do I think we need a
Speaker 3: beer part real ass.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Taylor. This is why this is the talent
Speaker 1: of Taylor on what story about drinking a beer. Let's
Speaker 1: say Dostekis is trying.
Speaker 2: To get us.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 2: One time.
Speaker 1: I was in Mexico with my buddy and We're at
Speaker 1: this beach called Manni's that's right in Rocky Point, Mexico.
Speaker 2: We're hanging out.
Speaker 1: We're having a bunch of dos Seki's having a great time.
Speaker 1: I'm sixteen, seventeen years old, and these three girls I
Speaker 1: went to ASU kind of come down. We're playing game.
Speaker 1: We're playing the Limbo game. Are you interested? Am I interested? Are?
Speaker 1: We're going to play this game for the rest of
Speaker 1: the night. We start talking with them. So it's me,
Speaker 1: my buddy brown Bear, and my buddy Nick, and we
Speaker 1: start going down this row of bars and we end
Speaker 1: up going to the beach and I start talking some
Speaker 1: girl up. I'm like, hey, what's going on with the disc?
Speaker 1: I have a boyfriend, so I knew right then. And
Speaker 1: there I'm the boy laying on the grenade for the crew. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what I have to.
Speaker 2: Do for the squad.
Speaker 1: And my other two buddies are already tonsils deep in
Speaker 1: these other two broads are having a great time about it.
Speaker 6: You're going to be the wing man.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm the wingman.
Speaker 1: And so we end up going to the beach because
Speaker 1: romantically that's the thing you do when you're sixteen seventeen
Speaker 1: years which is right outside the bar, and we're kind
Speaker 1: of talking. My buddy, oh, we don't put his name
Speaker 1: in there. My buddy blank goes onto the goes into
Speaker 1: the ocean with this girl because apparently that's the move.
Speaker 1: And so they're getting thrashed to hook up in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Given we're trying our best.
Speaker 2: Right, and we're just playing.
Speaker 1: We're playing the most recent porn we've seen in our life, right,
Speaker 1: We're jumping back and forth. Well, I saw them do this,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do that. But with water, it's so
Speaker 1: much more romantic about thinking salt water and crevices. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna be a good deal for either of us.
Speaker 1: They go out there and do their thing, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting with this girl kind of just talking to her,
Speaker 1: well my other bottle, but he's playing tonsil hockey, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go grab myself
Speaker 1: in the other dose. Sechis So I cruise over to
Speaker 1: the bar and some lady comes up to me, grabs
Speaker 1: you right between the legs, grabs me right to it,
Speaker 1: snakes me right there, and I'm like, are you feeling good?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh? She was mid.
Speaker 6: Thirties, okay, cougar, cougar. She was a.
Speaker 2: Resident of Rocky Point, Mexico.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: So she comes up to me, squanders my boys, and
Speaker 1: I go, oh my god, there's immediate like you get
Speaker 1: a little bit of a head rush, you loose some
Speaker 1: blood there, add some blood there.
Speaker 2: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: And she looks at me and says, sucky, sucky, and
Speaker 1: she like smiles at me. She got about as much
Speaker 1: teeth as a jaculator. All right, she's got one here
Speaker 1: one theres all of the bus and you're thinking yourself,
Speaker 1: I could fit in that crivis, but you think she's
Speaker 1: a level even heads prevail. So I'm like, no, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I can't do this. And I go and I get
Speaker 1: my delicious dosequies because they're just It's what I needed
Speaker 1: in that moment. And when you're sixteen seventeen and you're
Speaker 1: able to drink, like, what else are you gonna grab?
Speaker 1: You're gonna grab the doceecis. So I come back on
Speaker 1: the beach and I look at my buddy brown brow.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, dude, you gotta try this. Go walk
Speaker 1: to the bar like you're gonna go go get another
Speaker 1: do secis and this grosing cup to you and grab
Speaker 1: you by the penis. And he's like, I don't want to,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and uh, I'm like, just go, fucking dude.
Speaker 1: So I ended up talking him into it, and me
Speaker 1: and this girl like sitting there washing like this is
Speaker 1: now a game to us.
Speaker 2: The same thing happens like clockwork.
Speaker 1: Walks up and she comes out of the alley way
Speaker 1: like she comes out of the alleyway like surfaces like
Speaker 1: a demon and grabs him just the same way. But
Speaker 1: he's immediately I was a little more like, okay, what's
Speaker 1: going on here? He was immediately like no, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm all set. She reaches into his pocket, pulls out
Speaker 1: all his money, and he goes from loving happy brown
Speaker 1: Bear to hood brown bear. He's like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: give me my fucking money, starts yelling at the girl.
Speaker 2: There was like no, no, no, Money's in the ground.
Speaker 1: Money's in the ground, and she darts back into her
Speaker 1: little her alley way that goes out to the main street.
Speaker 1: So he starts counting it realizes he's missing about eighty dollars.
Speaker 2: Chases after this.
Speaker 1: Broad and I finished up a hurry drinking my Dosecui says.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not gonna leave this on the beaches.
Speaker 1: That a joke, Cli like some crab can get it.
Speaker 1: So I put it down and I drink it. I
Speaker 1: chase after the guy and uh. I get to the
Speaker 1: alleyway and it's like literally like a high school fight
Speaker 1: scene is about to go down. Like these two are
Speaker 1: sitting like kind of squaring off with each other, this
Speaker 1: girl and my buddy, and he's like in her face
Speaker 1: about the eighty dollars, and there's like a flood of
Speaker 1: Mexican Yeah I have now, like yes exactly, I came
Speaker 1: around to fight each other and they're all drinking dosequis obviously,
Speaker 1: and I come up to my like, dude, you can't
Speaker 1: do this. Like the police starts showing up, and in Mexico,
Speaker 1: you're sixteen seventeen, you can't be if the police are around.
Speaker 1: You got a buggy some dude named beat though he's
Speaker 1: about five to two tall, about five four round.
Speaker 2: The guy.
Speaker 1: The guy had his own gravitational pull. He was so large.
Speaker 1: He comes waddling up to us and he's like, uh,
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, what are you guys doing here?
Speaker 2: And he's like, this bitch stole my money? Brown Beard,
Speaker 2: not me. I would never call him at a bitch.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: He says, this bitch stole my money. And he looks
Speaker 1: at her and he goes bitch and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: this girl stole my money. And he was buddy, that's
Speaker 1: not a girl, that's a guy. And he pulls on
Speaker 1: this jack, a leanard woman and she's got a bulge
Speaker 1: bigger than mine with a sock put in it. It
Speaker 1: was outstanding. It was as a sight to see.
Speaker 2: So anyway we got out of there.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to question myself a little bit because I got,
Speaker 1: you know, at the beginning. But all of that started
Speaker 1: with a great night of do scus. That's right, And
Speaker 1: I think that's it's important.
Speaker 5: Thanat love you that that story should definitely get your
Speaker 5: beer sponsor right.
Speaker 1: Make a little bit longer than an elevator patch, that's
Speaker 1: all right, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: But it was a quality story one that I haven't heard.
Speaker 2: So I enjoyed that. Yeah, I made it up from
Speaker 2: the top, So I'm glad it all worked out. Did
Speaker 2: you make it up? Now?
Speaker 1: That was one hundred percent true, based on a true story,
Speaker 1: based on a true story.
Speaker 3: Some things are I think the way brands market themselves
Speaker 3: through uh, through individuals now and through brands like barstool
Speaker 3: bust with the boys, I think it's the way to
Speaker 3: go versus creating your own thing or do you want
Speaker 3: to own me? Especially if you're a beer company and
Speaker 3: you want to own the athlete market? Definitely, why not
Speaker 3: partner up with the boys who are.
Speaker 6: On the young guy market?
Speaker 2: You know, we're some young guys. Youngest.
Speaker 6: What did you watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We watched Super Bowl?
Speaker 6: Okay, do you watch the ads? Yeah, that's the most
Speaker 6: important part of that obviously. Yep. I thought they sucked.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say Every Years so cheesy and it's
Speaker 5: so three frogs.
Speaker 6: But why, I do love the Clydestale.
Speaker 1: The clyd Stales are awesome. And I think they had
Speaker 1: one too where a bunch of horses are playing football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cowboy, that was crazy Jack.
Speaker 3: They used to have the banger, he says, the banger.
Speaker 3: Commercials have bangers. Now, maybe you need to get the
Speaker 3: frogs and the boys together.
Speaker 1: God, imagine if we work with the frogs that great,
Speaker 1: it would be incredible. We had to get those guys
Speaker 1: out of retirement, bring them up, put them back on
Speaker 1: their lily pads, and say what's up? Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be an outstanding gig.
Speaker 3: You think it'd be awesome. Obviously we're talking about Budweiser
Speaker 3: and everything that happened. But even with that, that video
Speaker 3: that went like the local Guy Dale the local guy
Speaker 3: text saying that a guy who can make decisions regionally
Speaker 3: was embarrassed about it. And they're trying to get because again,
Speaker 3: you might have somebody up at like h Q and
Speaker 3: New York or something that sees something and makes a
Speaker 3: decision based on what their dynamics are.
Speaker 5: Defend their marks, right, Like that's their brand, that's their business.
Speaker 5: If somebody ripped off the barstool logo, I'd go pepe shit,
Speaker 5: you know, right, So I get where they're coming from.
Speaker 6: It's like, could we make a baby together, make a
Speaker 6: baby with Buddier?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't we got you guys, Maybe I'll help you because
Speaker 2: I don't want to paint this bus.
Speaker 1: But we're going to have to if we can't work
Speaker 1: something out.
Speaker 6: Definitely, Yeah, because we just we just give it.
Speaker 2: Dude, I love butt heavy, but we would need to
Speaker 2: look into.
Speaker 6: Is but heavier go to? Actually, don't say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say that.
Speaker 6: You're opy.
Speaker 2: I'm a free agent to go to. That's right, peakyback
Speaker 2: rice mash, that's my go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whistle figure is delicious. These little cans, I know,
Speaker 2: they're so good, right standing black beer, lemon fizz. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you jumped ship.
Speaker 1: I did jump in your fresh ginger line?
Speaker 2: Is that number three on your You have a lot?
Speaker 2: We usually have more, but I don't know what happens.
Speaker 6: We can do a little more than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that like that?
Speaker 6: This is amazing? That right?
Speaker 3: That is true, But there's usually more. Yeah, there's usually
Speaker 3: a lot more good delicious.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what counts.
Speaker 1: Usually you think your center piece would have a little
Speaker 1: more to it. But we're all about the main course.
Speaker 6: I got you. That's all about the steak.
Speaker 2: This is it. You're welcome. You bring up the deal. Listen.
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Speaker 1: Back to the show. Yeah the out line, Yeah, fucking that,
Speaker 1: fucking enough we again. We got the CEO of Barsool
Speaker 1: Sports on It's.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, one thing I do want to know, how
Speaker 3: do you Obviously you've probably gotten over and you probably
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck as much near anymore.
Speaker 2: But the whole.
Speaker 3: Stitch with the way people try and place you guys
Speaker 3: in the box of like miss and white male driven base, Like,
Speaker 3: how do you deal with that stuff? How do you
Speaker 3: guys pivot in some areas?
Speaker 2: And how do you end as a as the CEO
Speaker 2: of Barstool Sports handle that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 5: The first thing I would say is that people aren't
Speaker 5: There are people who hate Barstool Sports, who are always
Speaker 5: going to hate Barstool Sports. And if I were to
Speaker 5: spend when I first got to barstool, probably for like
Speaker 5: the first two and a half years, what I what
Speaker 5: was truly expected from me in the industry was just
Speaker 5: to apologize for Dave. Just apology tour, right, like, go
Speaker 5: get all dressed up and go stay sorry for everything
Speaker 5: David had ever done or ever said.
Speaker 6: And the reality and that only got worse.
Speaker 3: Like you should have just did like a fucking tour
Speaker 3: throughout the country the apology to the apology tour exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what I realized one is to
Speaker 5: start that to start down that path, it's a bottomless
Speaker 5: class like, it's just truly a bottomless glass.
Speaker 1: And that the because of Dave or because of these people,
Speaker 1: the whistleblowers.
Speaker 6: The whistle it's not even whistleblowers.
Speaker 5: It's just like the PC culture is insatiable.
Speaker 6: It's just insatiable.
Speaker 5: And I think that people are human and flawed and
Speaker 5: so interesting and strange, and that it's just a journey.
Speaker 5: And if everyone were to look back on your sixteen
Speaker 5: year old self or your twenty two year old self
Speaker 5: and have to and you had the cameras on you
Speaker 5: that entire time, like, you would never finish apologizing. So
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm just not going to apologize. Dave
Speaker 5: never apologized and I wasn't going to apologize, and.
Speaker 6: People don't like that.
Speaker 5: And then what added to it was that essentially we
Speaker 5: started to eat people's lunch.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: It was easy to ignore us or write us off
Speaker 5: in the beginning because we were so small, and then
Speaker 5: we became bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, and
Speaker 5: we started to take audience away from people, and we
Speaker 5: started to take ad revenue away from people, and we
Speaker 5: started to take time spent away from people and then
Speaker 5: the other thing was when you when podcasting really started,
Speaker 5: you know, the ESPNS and the NBCs and the CBS's
Speaker 5: and the nfls and all the authorities were like, of
Speaker 5: course we'll be the best at this, like we are media,
Speaker 5: and it was like, no, with a podcast, you really
Speaker 5: just need a microphone and maybe a camera and a
Speaker 5: really good opinion and a funny person in our case.
Speaker 5: And so pardon my take became number one, and then
Speaker 5: you know, Chicklets became number one, and four Play rose
Speaker 5: to the top, and the Dave Portnoy Show, and we
Speaker 5: started to be a top five player and start to
Speaker 5: take take airtime, take interest, take attention away from the establishment.
Speaker 5: And the establishment doesn't like that obviously. So then it
Speaker 5: only compounded the notion that we were you know, we
Speaker 5: we were disruptive or we were renegade, and how we
Speaker 5: were doing things, and that we were just not going
Speaker 5: to be accept did so I remember, you know, the
Speaker 5: tearing and guys who were invested at us originally when
Speaker 5: I got here wanted us to get on television. They're like,
Speaker 5: really need to get on television. So I spent a
Speaker 5: year trying to get us on television. If we got
Speaker 5: on television twice. Both of them are canceled like fairly instantly.
Speaker 5: ESPN and then Comedy Central, which was a great experience,
Speaker 5: Comedy Central more so than ESPN.
Speaker 6: But the realization there.
Speaker 2: You cancel from Comedy Central.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a pilot, we had like a four night pilot
Speaker 5: at the super Bowl in Houston, and then they did that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't want to do it.
Speaker 5: It's just so stupid trended, you know, crazy high ratings.
Speaker 5: But the reality was is that when a when a
Speaker 5: traditional media brand has a shield, in my opinion, when
Speaker 5: they have the brand, things that are disruptive or or
Speaker 5: counter to that brand are not often welcome in that environment.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: That's why you know McAfee, if McAfee were.
Speaker 5: To go have a sh show on TV, it would
Speaker 5: be a really different show than what you see on
Speaker 5: YouTube because he would have to conform when you look
Speaker 5: at you know, even when you looked at Van Talk, right,
Speaker 5: like who Pft and Dan were on ESPN is a
Speaker 5: very washed version of and they they worked so hard
Speaker 5: to stay authentic, but it's just a muted version of
Speaker 5: who you can be on the Internet. And so you know,
Speaker 5: I really I felt like I had a choice of like,
Speaker 5: do I just go triple down and build this thing
Speaker 5: as big as it can be and be as formidable
Speaker 5: as we can make it, or do I try to
Speaker 5: cater to somebody trying to accept you know, acceptance essentially,
Speaker 5: and we were just never going to get accepted. So
Speaker 5: I think the narrative of like misogyny and bro culture,
Speaker 5: and you know, I think that's just convenient. I think
Speaker 5: it's just it's puttered around by people who really don't
Speaker 5: care to listen to any of our shows, or watch
Speaker 5: any of our shows, or follow any of our personalities
Speaker 5: or see why our business is so radical.
Speaker 6: It's just a convenient.
Speaker 5: Thing to say because it's been in a bunch of
Speaker 5: headlines and it just tries to keep us in the box.
Speaker 2: What is bro culture?
Speaker 5: I think bro culture is like white guys, right, have
Speaker 5: three white guys?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think bro means white guy.
Speaker 2: People would for sure throw us in that box.
Speaker 3: People that did, people that don't you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: people that I'm trying to wonder what's wrong with it?
Speaker 2: You know, can please them all?
Speaker 1: Please them?
Speaker 2: Like, oh that's a bad deal.
Speaker 1: I get the misogyny thing, yeah, but the pro pro culture, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you just hitting a demographic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, what do you want to say.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's outstanding that you went
Speaker 1: through those avenues and found out like, okay, TV's not
Speaker 1: for us, mainstream is not for us, like all this
Speaker 1: shit because like at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: authenticity is going to prevail over all this stuff. Like
Speaker 1: when we used to watch TV, well growing up, we
Speaker 1: would see like but yeah, the NBC is CNAs, the
Speaker 1: Foxes like all this suit, buttoned up type of style
Speaker 1: and that's like going out the window.
Speaker 5: Now you don't want to hear in the wrong direction.
Speaker 5: I behind a desk in an outfit you don't recognize.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why in the last five years barstools
Speaker 1: now it's three hundred employees and I think ESPN what
Speaker 1: they fired over one hundred.
Speaker 5: And they're not Look at if you look at MTV
Speaker 5: right like, I'm like an MTV kid, I grew up MTV.
Speaker 5: If you go look at the programming guide for MTV
Speaker 5: right now, they run ridiculous, like ridiculousness.
Speaker 6: All fucking day, sixteen hours an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are uh?
Speaker 1: Which is crazy because what their programs were when I
Speaker 1: was growing up would be killing it now?
Speaker 2: So rotten?
Speaker 1: I asked the cky uh the show where you like
Speaker 1: put three guys on a bus and then they owe next. Yes, Also,
Speaker 1: that was fucking awesome if you had shows like that now,
Speaker 1: holy shit, dude, Room Raiders, Yes, dude, Room Raiders was
Speaker 1: fucking unreal. You do that and the girl just picks
Speaker 1: between three guys based on what their room looks like. Like,
Speaker 1: that's love for sure, Go and flush that down the toilet.
Speaker 1: That's fucking unbelievable. You put that out there. Now, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to run ridiculous, right because that's.
Speaker 5: Like the only But they don't know how to produce
Speaker 5: it for the Internet because it's like, so it's television.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I guess.
Speaker 6: You're exactly right.
Speaker 5: Like MTV was so radical and it's music videos were
Speaker 5: so radical and then the reality piece of it was amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it would be so killer right now.
Speaker 2: What the cribs? Cribs just still thinking of shows.
Speaker 3: When you first got the bar seool and you leaned
Speaker 3: into where part of my take went to the top
Speaker 3: Spin Chickens went to this top for play. What were
Speaker 3: things you implemented when you got there that kind of
Speaker 3: grew you guys into what you are now, because obviously
Speaker 3: if you started out kind of with a crew like this,
Speaker 3: you come in as the new big week CEO. Just
Speaker 3: being out all these dudes, like what were things that
Speaker 3: you implemented right away?
Speaker 2: That kind of sparked it.
Speaker 5: I really when when I got there, we had the
Speaker 5: Kevin Clancy show, pardon my take, probably had one or
Speaker 5: two episodes. Dave had a probably want a handful of
Speaker 5: episodes on his show. I wanted to see us get
Speaker 5: beyond blog. The majority of barstool in twenty sixteen was
Speaker 5: a blog. Like they were bloggers. They blogged to every
Speaker 5: thirty minutes. That's what these guys knew how to do,
Speaker 5: they wrote. But what was happening at the time was
Speaker 5: like podcasting was just beginning, and it wasn't expensive, right.
Speaker 5: I didn't have much money here, Like we didn't have
Speaker 5: a huge production budget, we didn't have sets, Like we
Speaker 5: were like spending all the company's money on opening an
Speaker 5: office and getting everyone to New York.
Speaker 6: And my thing live was starting. So Facebook Live had.
Speaker 5: Just launched or was about to launch, and Twitter had
Speaker 5: bought Periscope, and my thing was like just turn the
Speaker 5: camera on these guys. If we can just turn the
Speaker 5: camera on and get to video, then we have audio
Speaker 5: and video and we have written content, and can we
Speaker 5: figure out no one would ever give barstool a chance.
Speaker 5: We most media companies are built on some type of
Speaker 5: distribution cable television, broadcast, television, newspaper, right, magazines. We our
Speaker 5: distribution is the Internet and social media, and so we
Speaker 5: just started to have eyes only for that because no
Speaker 5: one was going to ever come give us a leg
Speaker 5: up and give us their distribution. That's why I wanted
Speaker 5: television as I was like, I'll take your eyeballs. I
Speaker 5: can give them shit that they want to watch. We'll
Speaker 5: take your eyeballs. And then they're like, we're not giving
Speaker 5: you our eyeballs, and I was like, all right, well Instagram,
Speaker 5: lets anybody take eyeballs, So I'll just go be great
Speaker 5: at Instagram. So it was all about like, how do
Speaker 5: we start doing more stuff in more places and then
Speaker 5: protecting them like letting them do protecting them at all costs,
Speaker 5: like keeping I kept the business really far away from
Speaker 5: our creative people because every company that I'd ever been at,
Speaker 5: when you when you kind of fuck up the content
Speaker 5: with the sales stuff. It just it ruins the rawness.
Speaker 5: It ruins what made the content great. So I just
Speaker 5: tried to protect them.
Speaker 3: Was was it difficult or was there a learning curve
Speaker 3: when you first came in and you're around these guys.
Speaker 3: You know, you're around these dudes who are like making
Speaker 3: content everything else, seeing you as like the decision maker
Speaker 3: and non necessarily decision maker because you guys worked as
Speaker 3: a team, but you coming in and giving your input.
Speaker 5: They are so good, Like Barstools the least sexist company
Speaker 5: I've ever worked for. Like there was like I worked
Speaker 5: for Yahoo, I worked for a Well, I worked for Microsoft,
Speaker 5: Like huge amount of sexism, a lot of bias.
Speaker 6: Like these guys.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm telling you the adversity when you're
Speaker 3: on the bush.
Speaker 2: It's just a little bit.
Speaker 5: No, they were really good to me. They were just
Speaker 5: from the jump. I don't think they cared like they
Speaker 5: It's a nice thing about Barstool. It's like just nobody cares,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Yeah, just nobody cares. Well
Speaker 5: business wise, like, yeah, Dave was awesome. Most times, if
Speaker 5: you go to a startup and you have an external
Speaker 5: person come in, that person the founder is like oh wait,
Speaker 5: that's my job or you know, I want to control that.
Speaker 5: I want to make all the decisions. Dave did not
Speaker 5: want to, and yet I wanted Dave part of most
Speaker 5: every decision because I really value what Dave has to say.
Speaker 6: So we just we had a good thing going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely it's ten eighteen. Oh it is just
Speaker 1: to keep you, just to keep you posting? Can you
Speaker 1: throw that thing up? Working with Dave? What is it
Speaker 1: like working with Dave?
Speaker 2: And how is it? How is it? Uh?
Speaker 3: I guess changed and more so over the last couple
Speaker 3: of years because again, you guys are growing at a
Speaker 3: huge rate, the whole corp British like core value thing.
Speaker 3: Obviously you guys stick to who you are and what
Speaker 3: you know. But like your guys' relationship throughout these past
Speaker 3: couple of years, especially like when people try and cancel
Speaker 3: you guys all the time.
Speaker 6: Like what it like working with I.
Speaker 5: Love working with Dave. I think Dave's probably the smartest
Speaker 5: person I've ever met. Like, Dave is so smart?
Speaker 2: Damn like that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, how so, so he's just.
Speaker 2: That's why he's a smart ass dude. But the smartest
Speaker 2: person you've ever met.
Speaker 6: He content wise, he's a genius. He's a genius.
Speaker 3: Like the world doesn't see behind Cloe does when he's
Speaker 3: talking with you in those rooms.
Speaker 5: No, I think the world sees it like it's so
Speaker 5: it's in some ways so obvious and or basic, yet
Speaker 5: it's brilliant pizza reviews, Like that's not a radical concept.
Speaker 5: But the way he does pizza reviews. Look at how
Speaker 5: big that brand has got, Like it's insane. He has
Speaker 5: pizza nos just his own propulsion, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So you know, in the beginning, we in the beginning,
Speaker 5: it was you know, it's tough like it was. You know,
Speaker 5: we didn't have a P and L. Like there wasn't
Speaker 5: no one lived in New York. We were trying to
Speaker 5: build an office and open an office and hire people
Speaker 5: and fire people and go go through like making a
Speaker 5: company out of barstool. And you know, now we have
Speaker 5: different problems, right like how do we work with pen
Speaker 5: where do you know?
Speaker 6: What do we want to be when we grow up?
Speaker 6: How do we motivate people?
Speaker 5: So I would say, like I just would say, our
Speaker 5: partnership is pretty collaborative, like he knows what he he
Speaker 5: knows what he knows, and he does what he does,
Speaker 5: and I know what I know, and I do what
Speaker 5: I do, and we stay in pretty close contact on
Speaker 5: all of it.
Speaker 6: Shorthand mostly, Yeah, what do you guys want to be
Speaker 6: when you grow up? I don't know?
Speaker 2: Like with Pen, what's the future of Pin? Look like?
Speaker 5: I mean, Pen's interesting, I you know, I think the
Speaker 5: media business is going to be the most interesting part
Speaker 5: of Penn. Like when you think about how big, how
Speaker 5: big all these brands are and how how many products
Speaker 5: you can create from them or how many shows or
Speaker 5: formats you can create with them.
Speaker 6: We have sixty four brands. It's a lot of brands.
Speaker 5: Like you look at the size and valuation of Viacom
Speaker 5: or Discovery or Disney, like we're you know, are we
Speaker 5: Disney for bros?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Or what's that for? And bros?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like girls, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? Young people on the internet. So it's like,
Speaker 5: could we build something really big there? And how can Pen?
Speaker 5: You know, how do we get more more people to
Speaker 5: obviously want to know how to bet, be confident to
Speaker 5: bet or excited about betting.
Speaker 6: You know that's important to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know nothing about betting.
Speaker 6: You're not a betting guy.
Speaker 1: I've never really done it because when you play football,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that you're never really allowed
Speaker 1: to even jump into.
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Prime for the whole missing an eleven million dollars contract
Speaker 1: for fifteen hundred dollars insane, fucking wild. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: something that when I'm done, I want to learn how
Speaker 1: to do. I want to know the ins and outs
Speaker 1: of because I feel like we talk about all the
Speaker 1: time like that's where this that's where all this is going,
Speaker 1: that's where the money is, that's where all that stuff.
Speaker 5: The big talent contracts right now are not coming from
Speaker 5: media companies are coming from sports betting companies.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, explain that because just on the outside looking in,
Speaker 3: FanDuel spends all this fucking money DraftKings, win, bet MGM,
Speaker 3: all this stuff. There's also a sports book and pen.
Speaker 3: But you guys, maybe it's because I follow you guys
Speaker 3: and I'm just aware that you guys do the Bartol
Speaker 3: Sports Book. But from an advertising standpoint, it looks like
Speaker 3: you guys, you guys aren't all these things the way
Speaker 3: FanDuel and everything else is as far as like the
Speaker 3: prime sponsor.
Speaker 6: I guess no, I mean it.
Speaker 2: They seem way more mainstream.
Speaker 6: We used to be.
Speaker 5: Now we just talk about our bets and we bet
Speaker 5: obviously in the sportsbook, how.
Speaker 2: Do you guys stack up to the competition?
Speaker 6: Top three player?
Speaker 5: But when you look at it, like if you look
Speaker 5: at a FanDuel and DraftKings, they spend their marketing budgets
Speaker 5: are insane, like three hundred million dollars, like an insane
Speaker 5: amount of money. Billions and billions and billions of dollars
Speaker 5: are spent on advertising. What those guys are figuring out
Speaker 5: is that the television doesn't convert very well, or it
Speaker 5: doesn't convert the way a personality converts, the way a
Speaker 5: barstool would convert or a Dave would convert Dan or
Speaker 5: you guys if you bet, or McAfee. And so they're
Speaker 5: moving their money into those guys. So when you look
Speaker 5: at where fanduels marketing dollars are going to go, they're
Speaker 5: going to go to personalities. And that's why, and if
Speaker 5: betting is just a front runner, all businesses will move
Speaker 5: that way. You know, package goods, you look at travel
Speaker 5: and leisure, you look at automotive.
Speaker 6: You know you look at Chevy. Chevy wants twenty somethings.
Speaker 5: To buy trucks, right, you are a killer platform for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. If we killed lunch pail motherfuckers did,
Speaker 2: no doubt lunch pail motherfuckers.
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Speaker 6: Are excited about your tour.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's gonna be awesome. I did get
Speaker 1: the boys. Will fill me in on the weather in
Speaker 1: Nebraska for this week. I'm a little pointed in.
Speaker 3: Zero degrees looking at snow in March. I was sending
Speaker 3: back like, fuck, yeah, it is kind of like that
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: You kind of forget, right, Yeah, yeah, going to Michigan,
Speaker 1: like I kind of forget what the weather's like out
Speaker 1: there too.
Speaker 2: You think the summers, like all the summers.
Speaker 6: Are beautiful, it's like balm me compared to Nebraska, this like, Oh,
Speaker 6: I wish.
Speaker 1: You'd think because I've never really been it's a little
Speaker 1: more north.
Speaker 2: What's that. I've never even really been to Michigan like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna have a blast, You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: Wait's not standing time for you. Like people will make
Speaker 1: fun of Nebraska because there's literally nothing there, like people
Speaker 1: like more cows than people, more cowsand people. So I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see what Nebraska has to offer because if
Speaker 1: you want a kid to come to a five star
Speaker 1: athlete to go to Nebraska recruiting it, yeah you gotta
Speaker 1: like but yeah, but not really.
Speaker 2: Right you think wholesome, homegrown?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt homegrown right there, dude, some thirty broads,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying That Just I'm just excited
Speaker 1: because they have.
Speaker 2: Such a historic program.
Speaker 1: They the last thing that want the NAT Championship was
Speaker 1: win don't say ninety seven, Yeah, I mean it was,
Speaker 1: but no, Michigan won.
Speaker 2: In ninety seven.
Speaker 1: But I would say that like if the story programs
Speaker 1: like Nebrassa's, you know, they didn't have the best year
Speaker 1: at best three and nineteen in the whole entire all
Speaker 1: time of all all time, not even touching what Michig
Speaker 1: had a big up year, But like there's something there's
Speaker 1: more to Michigan as far as like to see and
Speaker 1: do and like. And Arbor is an amazing town brand,
Speaker 1: God does it ever and so but I think Michigan
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things that you were talking
Speaker 1: about what Barcel's doing, not exactly the same way, but
Speaker 1: kind of like be a little more progressive about the
Speaker 1: stuff they do. Everything's so traditional with them, and it's
Speaker 1: like if you were just like, hey, unbutton the suit tie,
Speaker 1: unbuttoned the suit collar, just a little it, let us
Speaker 1: get in get in there.
Speaker 6: I'm actually more and more disappointed with.
Speaker 1: You think like if I'm a s U, if I'm
Speaker 1: an ad at a SU, I'm like I'm getting every
Speaker 1: five star athlete.
Speaker 2: I didn't go there because there was too many pretty girls.
Speaker 1: There's literally the main reason why I did not go
Speaker 1: to Arizona State University. And if you're Arizona State is like, like,
Speaker 1: you have amazing weather. It's always sunny out. There's people
Speaker 1: that are living their best lives. Everyone's in shape, because
Speaker 1: you gotta be in shape to be in Arizona. You're
Speaker 1: not wearing a sweater. You can't hide that thing. You
Speaker 1: go up north, you can have that real.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 2: You gotta wear long everything.
Speaker 6: It's a Nebraska recruiting plan.
Speaker 1: Facilities, Yeah, but Alabama's got that, Michigan's got that, us.
Speaker 2: Sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: I think that's the hard part for Nebraska now is
Speaker 3: like back in the nineties and back in the old days,
Speaker 3: like they were, they were winning, they were the ones on.
Speaker 2: TV because not a lot of games were televised.
Speaker 3: And when I was getting recruited, the whole stitch was like,
Speaker 3: if we can get if we can just get recruit
Speaker 3: to come out here and see that it's not it's
Speaker 3: more than Nebraska, the cornfields and stuff like that. Usually
Speaker 3: guys would commit because we have great facilities. But now
Speaker 3: everyone's able to build these facilities, so they're gonna have
Speaker 3: to go above and beyond where I think Nebraska can
Speaker 3: compete is all the whole new ni L layout because
Speaker 3: there's a lot of money, there's a lot of boosters,
Speaker 3: there's a.
Speaker 6: Lot of they will date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nebraska will do a lot to try and win.
Speaker 5: Will be more aggressive in letting players make their own money.
Speaker 2: I think so or I think people come into it
Speaker 2: that gotta be a genius player.
Speaker 3: You're especially looking at free agency now with this with
Speaker 3: these college athletes, and so you know just that you.
Speaker 6: Guys shouldn't have ANILE.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know because we're look at the position
Speaker 1: we're in right now.
Speaker 6: It worked out, got it?
Speaker 2: Did it? Ever? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: I would really care about the NILE thing. I was
Speaker 1: clear for Pelgrint and I still didn't file for it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like Pilgram, you're a big
Speaker 1: college living and it's like, I don't only know NFL Anyway.
Speaker 3: I thought this because even back then, like if we
Speaker 3: would have had NIL then that means we would have
Speaker 3: had social media. Well we we did, but we were
Speaker 3: more in the incubator stages of those.
Speaker 2: But you have had social.
Speaker 3: Media coming out of high school and we would probably
Speaker 3: just saw ship differently because that's what kids are now.
Speaker 2: Definitely is the this is.
Speaker 1: The place you want to be for sure, through all
Speaker 1: that bullshit colleges. It's the fucking wild West of sports
Speaker 1: for real.
Speaker 2: It's gonna kind it's gonna get nuts, man.
Speaker 3: Like again, you're opening up a Pandora's box of all
Speaker 3: this money flowing around. And I still think like the
Speaker 3: big dogs are gonna still reign supreme because they're gonna
Speaker 3: find ways to.
Speaker 5: Well, they're not gonna want in the universities don't want
Speaker 5: the money to go to the athletes, right, the money
Speaker 5: goes to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think now, I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: heard this too, but the SEC is kind of like
Speaker 1: making them their own super conference. It's gonna try to
Speaker 1: get away from the n C Double A SEC.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's gonna see the se n C double A out
Speaker 1: of it. Like talk about a monopoly like they have.
Speaker 1: It's great as greatest business of all time, it really is.
Speaker 6: It's so smart, great business.
Speaker 2: We're using these kids.
Speaker 6: Here's what we're gonna get paid because that's unfair.
Speaker 5: That's what we're gonna do legal for them to get paid, right,
Speaker 5: so we're just going.
Speaker 6: To keep all the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a control all the rights, right, genius
Speaker 1: super genius.
Speaker 3: Kids are figuring out a little more and more though,
Speaker 3: I mean guys staying out of bowl games and doing
Speaker 3: this and that, and coaches like because the universities will
Speaker 3: make the money, right and they'll pay and do all
Speaker 3: the incentivised the coaches in this and then and coaches
Speaker 3: can stand up there. You know, it's it's the best
Speaker 3: saying if they're about the team and they stay for
Speaker 3: the team. But then you know what's his name from
Speaker 3: Notre Dame goes and takes that job at LSU.
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. Yeah, Brian Kelly's kind of out in front
Speaker 2: showing like, yo.
Speaker 3: These coaches, everyone's everyone's in it for themselves.
Speaker 1: And what a fucking weird approach that guy had when
Speaker 1: he first got to l s U, like pretending to
Speaker 1: have a Southern accent with bro. Yeah, and then like
Speaker 1: he did a great pivot by making himself making fun
Speaker 1: of himself on it like a basketball game. But like
Speaker 1: someone had to when he was in the mirror going
Speaker 1: all all right, y'all, do we're gonna have a great
Speaker 1: time down here at l as if someone was like, hey, Ryan,
Speaker 1: probably don't right, like you've been in Notre Dame for
Speaker 1: the past ten years, like no one one who knows
Speaker 1: this shit you No, it's even be like you just
Speaker 1: walked through like the swamp, like I'm here now I've
Speaker 1: done it. What a hilarious thing. But I also love
Speaker 1: that he just tried it. I love the fact that
Speaker 1: he was just like, all right, we're gonna give it
Speaker 1: a go. But I think that that might take away
Speaker 1: from sports a little bit, like the camaraderie of the
Speaker 1: boys because that bariness early. Yeah, because camaraderie like comarader
Speaker 1: is good in our locker rooms, but it's not the
Speaker 1: same as when we were back in college.
Speaker 6: And you know social media.
Speaker 1: No, I just think I have a social media just
Speaker 1: because it's you're in the real world while playing sports.
Speaker 1: Like in college, you're everyone's in the same playing field.
Speaker 1: We're all going to class, we're all working out its exam,
Speaker 1: you're all boosting on Fridays to figure out the weekend.
Speaker 4: Wives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the NFL.
Speaker 1: Like when I was a rookie, I'm playing with dudes
Speaker 1: that are thirty three years old and I'm twenty one.
Speaker 1: I adjusted at twenty one years old. You like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck these guys have four kids at home and
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, yes, you know you're not. You're not
Speaker 1: living the same life. Yeah, so it's all it's way
Speaker 1: more spread out obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a job for sure.
Speaker 1: That thing needs lighting up too, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just the whole process of the NFL is just that
Speaker 1: just needs to light in the fuck up.
Speaker 2: We're at like ten thirty thirty. You got anything else?
Speaker 2: You got anything?
Speaker 6: All right? What do you think about the metaverse?
Speaker 2: No, no, don't let that go blost. That's she's a
Speaker 2: she's a boss man, she knows how to flip it.
Speaker 6: Are you in the metaverse?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I just I've just been watching like a few things
Speaker 4: on it, so, I mean it seems like that's obviously
Speaker 4: where we're transitioning to, is like the VR world. So
Speaker 4: with this being like a big brand and being usually
Speaker 4: in front of everything, I was just curious if there
Speaker 4: was a plan about the metaverse.
Speaker 2: The way you guys, you know, you just bounced around
Speaker 2: that fucker like.
Speaker 5: I don't think that we So NFL is actually decent
Speaker 5: oddly in the metaverse.
Speaker 6: They have a metaverse, but they have a whole metaverse
Speaker 6: strategy stuff going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were at Blocks. You guys were before
Speaker 3: everybody else with the Internet. You understood what it was
Speaker 3: going to look like.
Speaker 5: We can understand how to work it in somebody else's system.
Speaker 5: Where we have to figure out the metaverse is like Roadblocks, Like,
Speaker 5: do you guys know Roadblocks?
Speaker 6: Roadblocks is fucking insane. You should go look at Roadblocks.
Speaker 1: Roadblocks, Roadblocks r O b O l O X okay,
Speaker 1: roadblo genius company.
Speaker 5: Really, So what Roadblocks has done is Roadblocks has like
Speaker 5: thousands and thousands and thousands of games and each game
Speaker 5: is a world. Right, So there's Blocksburg where it's like
Speaker 5: you have your own house, and you have a job,
Speaker 5: and you have a car, and you can meet your
Speaker 5: friends that you can meet your friends in the game, right,
Speaker 5: get him off the.
Speaker 6: Screen, all right?
Speaker 5: So that's Roblox. So there's thousands of worlds in Roadblocks.
Speaker 5: Robots enables kids to develop their own games, so they're
Speaker 5: developing new worlds for free.
Speaker 6: Oh that's okay.
Speaker 5: And then imagine barstool can have you have a bus
Speaker 5: and T shirt in there, or you're on the bus, right,
Speaker 5: the bus is in a game, or one of the
Speaker 5: games is a pizza shop, right, so what's one bite
Speaker 5: in the pizza shop?
Speaker 6: So that's what we're thinking about now. I don't know
Speaker 6: in terms of what Facebook will be. I think they
Speaker 6: have something called Horizon.
Speaker 5: Somebody from Facebook asked if I wanted to have a
Speaker 5: meeting in the metaverse, and I.
Speaker 6: Was like, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I was kind of excited
Speaker 4: to see, like being courtside like at games and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. Like if there's a way to incorporate like
Speaker 4: fans of the podcast and bringing people into the bus
Speaker 4: through VR, definitely would be a pretty cool.
Speaker 6: We just wanted to scale.
Speaker 5: Like, so, I think there's a couple Like there's blockchain, right,
Speaker 5: so like the blockchain is going to be its own
Speaker 5: thing where you buy something, you buy a bust In
Speaker 5: sweatshirt or you buy whistle pig, and your receipt can
Speaker 5: be an NFT, right, and then there's a brand around
Speaker 5: the receipt or around the item you purchase. So everything
Speaker 5: that exists physically will exist in a virtual world and
Speaker 5: will be uniquely identifiable on the blockchain.
Speaker 6: And will be uniquely monetizable. So that's one piece of it.
Speaker 5: Then the second piece of it is like, do you
Speaker 5: create the virtual bus and people come in here and
Speaker 5: hang out? Definitely, but you want it to scale, Like
Speaker 5: that's our thing is. We're not going to go build
Speaker 5: a world that nobody goes to, like I want to
Speaker 5: be in the biggest worlds in the like with the
Speaker 5: rowdiest bunch of people, right, And so that's what we
Speaker 5: still have to figure out.
Speaker 2: We haven't figured that out yet. It's so fresh and
Speaker 2: new too.
Speaker 1: It's so new it's going to fail and then it's
Speaker 1: going to be brought back up and beginning.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So it's like yeah, people they're super ratty. Yeahty.
Speaker 5: It's like it's not that it's going away, but it's
Speaker 5: like no, but it's it's like whose dick is.
Speaker 6: Bigger in the internet, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: And it's like, why don't we let them play that
Speaker 5: and then we'll figure out what business you do?
Speaker 1: Fallly n Fts too, I mean, the whole all of it,
Speaker 1: all of it. It just seems like it's a guy. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not in it. I don't understand it enough, Like this.
Speaker 1: This company asked me. It's called Meto Wolves. They asked
Speaker 1: me to do something with them, and I said yeah,
Speaker 1: and they said, they give me some n fts. Uh,
Speaker 1: So I posted a couple of things. So I have
Speaker 1: n fts now, But like, what do I do with it?
Speaker 2: How does it work? I kind of just hold on
Speaker 2: to it like a stock at this point.
Speaker 5: That's right, but it will become Look when it you know,
Speaker 5: it's like the gronk has his NFTs.
Speaker 6: Right, it's all going to be about your It's all
Speaker 6: about nil.
Speaker 5: It's nil for grown ups in the in on the blockchain,
Speaker 5: I would think about it. You're gonna have fifty pictures
Speaker 5: of the bus. Two of them are going to be
Speaker 5: gold plated. Yeah, and there'll be value. There's neck, there's
Speaker 5: an economy around here.
Speaker 1: Should go plate the bus in real life too, every
Speaker 1: bad ass.
Speaker 6: Like give the bus a girl the bush of a girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does technically have a girl, but a lot
Speaker 1: of different gold girl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, gold on Simon there forever. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been awesome.