1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Ms Shannon, heyo, only three days left in this beautiful 2 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: weather of Auxnard, California, and then we head to Hawaii, 3 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: which the weather will probably be just as nice as 4 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: not nicer. Joining me on the show today one of 5 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: our last guests. I guess of training camp justin March, Lillard, 6 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: how's it going? Justin going well? Like you said, you 7 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: can't beat this weather out here, so I guess just 8 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: hooking it all up before we get back to Texas. Yeah. Yeah, 9 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: So got to play a couple of days ago, finally 10 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: got to hit somebody that's not on your team. What's 11 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: that like the first day back at uh? Back in 12 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: I guess action act Initially it's always kind of like different. 13 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to adjust to the speed of 14 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: a game. You're trying to, you know, just kind of 15 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: handle your assignment and just kind of get those first 16 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: few hits out of the way. But like I said, 17 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: once you make contact, it kind of all settles back down. Yeah. 18 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Any trash talking go on during preseason or is it? Yeah, 19 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: there's always I guess anytime there's you know, man verse man, 20 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: there's some type of trash talk, but it's always fun. Yeah, 21 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: So what aspect of the game do you like the most. 22 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I know, you play, you play special teams, you play 23 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: some linebacker you what do you what do you like 24 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: to do? I guess anything that involves hitting somebody, But uh, 25 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like them both. Evenly he's been out 26 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: there on defense is different. You know, you're able to 27 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: be out there, have a chance to, uh, you know, 28 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: make a big play, have a chance to contribute in 29 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: that way. And uh, just obviously growing up as a linebacker, 30 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, just anytime I get a chance to play 31 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: it in a game and stuff like that, it's always fun. 32 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: But just as equally, been on special teams and being 33 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: out there, you know, kind of separate from offense and defense. 34 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: We kind of say, you know, we're part of both, 35 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: so we can set our offense up for a good 36 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: field position or defense on the other side. So just 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: being able to out there and uh, you know, give 38 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: some effort and compete, just being on the field is 39 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: a tremendous, you know deal, especially for me. So um, 40 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: I kind of enjoy doing both. Yeah, And it seems 41 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: like this year you guys, you know, have a really 42 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: special group of linebackers and then you got some young 43 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: guys that look like they got some talent. You got 44 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: some guys that you know, were fairly new to the game. 45 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Is anything seem different this year than it did last year? 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: Is it just kind of business as usual? I say, 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: we're probably a little bit closer now than we were 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: last year. Um, probably because like most of us were, 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, we're back in the defense together. Um, a 50 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: lot of guys has you know, they all you know 51 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: growing up. Ladon's not a rookie anymore, obviously been a 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. Uh, you got Jalen who's you know, 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: one of the best linebackers in the NFL. And Uh 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: obviously you got Sean who who's the leader, Um who 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, make sure everybody's on the right page on 56 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: the entire defense. Um shans out there on special teams, 57 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, just as far as like just being on 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: the side and just kind of you know, you know, 59 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: just telling us, you know what he sees from outside 60 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: looking in. Uh. So it's always fun when you got 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: someone like Sean that's kind of you know, around and uh, 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: just you know, he just loves football. So he'll even 63 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: give you, you know, a tip on on defense on 64 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: special teams as it correlates the defense and vice versa. UM. 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: And they obviously we got some young some young linebackers. 66 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: That's uh man, there's some some great guys, UM, great athletes, 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: great players, and uh most importantly, you know, they want 68 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: to they want to learn. They're not afraid to ask questions. 69 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: They're not a ray to um, you know, just kind 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: of show show us who they are. Ye. So, UM, 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I feel like we do a good job as you know, 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: being older guys in the linebacker room that uh, you know, 73 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: we welcome to young guys to come in. Just be 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: who you are, Um, don't be afraid to ask questions. 75 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: And then uh, obviously getting the practice together it makes 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: a big difference. Yeah, Um the game Sunday obviously you 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: mentioned you got some some young talented guys. Luke Gifford's 78 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: kind of a guy that that kind of stood out 79 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: a little bit now, Yeah, and then he then he 80 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: got hurt. When you're when you're in a game and 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt and you don't know the severity of 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: the injury, does it do you think about it or 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: is it kind of like you think about it in 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: the moment and then it's right back to football and 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: you and you're so focused that you kind of block 86 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: everything out and something Yeah, definitely, um, definitely when you 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: when you see something like that happened. Uh, it's tough, 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: especially especially for Luke who's been doing a great job, 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: even all the way back in OTAs. I mean, the 90 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: guy has just been you know, kind of signment sound. Uh. 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, he asked questions. Uh. You can almost ask 92 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: him to do anything, whether it's in football side of football, 93 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: and he'll get the job done. Whether I say, hey, 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: can you run to the store and pick up some 95 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: seeds for the linebackers. You know, he's gonna take care 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: of it. Uh so seeds some flower seeds, yes, okay, sir. 97 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: So just being able to uh, you know, him been 98 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: out there and him obviously making a huge play. You know, 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: it was just great, too great to see, you know, 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: such a great person and great player to be able 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: to make a play. And then, uh, on the other side, 102 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: when he goes down, and you know, it hurts, you 103 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: know it hurts, uh, you know, obviously the entire team 104 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: and then just the linebackers in general, because you never 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: want to see one of your guys go down. But 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: then right after, you know, right after he gets up 107 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: and he's off the field, it's time to lock back 108 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: into football and just kind of get the job done. Yeah, 109 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: so you were fifty three, right, Yes, sir? What is 110 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: there a story behind your number? You just, oh, you 111 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: know what I was now, it's not really a story 112 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: behind it when I had when I got picked up 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: by the Dolphins in twenty seventeen, I was just a 114 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: number I was given and it just happened to be 115 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: open when I when I came here, and I was 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: a number that gave me. And you've been around a while, 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: You've been league what five years? Yeah, it's my fifth 118 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: season this season, and you've been a few different places. 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: We're all what had you? What's your journey to hear? H? Yeah. 120 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: So in two thou fifteen I had. I was undrafted. Uh, 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: came from University of Akron, went to Kansas City. Um, 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: I was there, played. You know, I had a great 123 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: training camp that first year, great first game and uh, 124 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, I ended up having a knee surgery. So 125 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: I had microfracture, which kind of like a big big 126 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: knee surgery. Um, and I was able to bounce back 127 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: from that. So I was on I R that year 128 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: bounced back and UH, two thousand and sixteen was still 129 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Started for the first I want to say, 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: five games, broke my hand against the Raiders, got put 131 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: on injured reserve, and then I was designated to return, 132 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: so I came back the last regular season game. Then 133 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: we end up losing to the Stillers in the playoffs. 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: So I was going to another year starting, UH, and 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: then the general manager had got fired and then M 136 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: the new gym kind of made some trades for for 137 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: some linebackers, kind of put me on the outskirts and UH. 138 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: And from there, when they released me, I got claimed 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: by the Dolphins that would have been with two thousand 140 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: and seventeen. I was there for the first I want 141 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: to say, three games. We actually came out the auction 142 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: ard during the hurricane, so it was like funny because 143 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: I've just been out here. It was like some familiarity there. 144 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: So then I was there and then UH, from there, 145 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: I end up getting released. They had wanted to put 146 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: me on practice squad for a few weeks and brought 147 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: me back up, and once they released me, Seattle came 148 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: and claim me. They had just had a lineback go down, 149 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: so I went there, end up starting on four phases 150 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: on special teams for a week. Yeah, for that next week, 151 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: my brother passed away that night with my first game. 152 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I ended up going back to Illinois for his funeral. 153 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Theyre like, hey, we're gonna, you know, release you and 154 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: bring you back and go home, spend time with your family, 155 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: will bring you back. And then got picked up by 156 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and just kind of been here ever since. 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: So that was all in two seventeen, man, sir, been 158 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: through a lot, yea, So how do you for young 159 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: people that are grid or hell even even older people 160 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: that are that are you know, maybe it's not football, 161 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: it's just life in general. I guess you've been cut, waved, 162 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, stuck with it, grinding it out. You know, 163 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: you seem to be a guy that's willing to do 164 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you're not starting to find tell me 165 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: what I can do to fit in? What can I 166 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: do to contribute to the team, Like what what's your 167 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: mentality as far as like this is what I want 168 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: to do, and I'm gonna do anything I have to do, 169 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stick with it until I can anymore. Yeah, 170 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do with uh, you know, 171 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: believing in yourself and kind of you know, focusing on 172 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: yourself and kind of what you want to do and 173 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: then just getting a job done and uh knowing that 174 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: sometimes it might not work out. Um, but that's that's 175 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: kind of like the beauty of life. I mean, you 176 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: got ups and downs. But as long as you know 177 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: who you are, as long as you know um kind 178 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: of what you're living for and what you're working towards you, 179 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: you won't let anything stop you. So that's something that 180 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of motivates me every day, is just knowing who 181 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: I am and knowing you know, what I what I 182 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: want to do, and uh, you know, no matter how 183 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: many times I get knocked down, you know I'm gonna 184 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: keep getting back up because it's just what I do, 185 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: just how I was raised. And uh you know, like 186 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I said, once you once you find out what you want, 187 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: you know you'll work extremely hard for it. Yeah you're 188 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: a Midwest guy, right, Yes, sir, grew up in Illinois 189 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: partner Danville, Illinois. So I'm about two and a half 190 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: hours from Chicago and about an hour and fifteen from Indianapolis. Okay, 191 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: did you play sports your whole life? Just football? Do 192 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: you play everything? I played basketball and baseball. Uh yeah. 193 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: I played up there in Cooperstown, New York. I was 194 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: collecting baseball pans doing all that stuff. Baseball was kind 195 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: of like my first love. Yeah. Yeah. When I got 196 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: to uh high school, I end up playing varsity as 197 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: a freshman for football, but not with baseball. So I 198 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: kind of figured it was this is the way to go. 199 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: This is the way to go. Did you just did 200 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: you play linebacker throughout high school or did you play 201 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: I played running back, I played some wildcat, quarterback and 202 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: linebacker on defense. Okay, which one did you like best? Uh? 203 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: I'd probably say have from uh. I had to go 204 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: with one. Uh definitely linebacker. Uh. I wanna say, my 205 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: junior year, I probably had like over two hundred tackles. WHOA. 206 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: So just being able to run around and hit people 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: was just kind of, you know, just something I love 208 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: to do. And see, you're one of the nicest, most 209 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: mild mannered guys on the team, and you meant that's 210 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: about the fifth time you mentioned I just like to 211 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: hit people. I just want to hit some Yeah. Yeah, 212 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: see it's a little different when I put some pads 213 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: on you. Is there a switch that flips. Yeah, yeah, 214 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: it is for sure, That's what I mean. All my 215 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: teammates know that. So outside outside of football, you know, 216 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of, you know, mellow chill. But once 217 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: once football kind of starts and not get to hit somebody, 218 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: it's like a different switch. Yeah, what what do you 219 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: a typical offseason? Everyone always asks me what do the 220 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: guys do? And from the outside looking in, it seems 221 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: like whenever football is over, you guys kind of get 222 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: away for about a month or so and just you know, 223 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: just step away for a little bit. But then usually, 224 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: you know, if the season ends into January, usually it 225 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: seems like about you know, you take February off, maybe March, 226 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: and then you're right back at start training again, getting 227 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: in shape. Is that kind of how you guys do it? 228 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: Or oh yeah. Everybody kind of has their own different 229 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: routine when it comes to that. But most of the 230 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: time in March, most of the guys are back, We're 231 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: doing some captains workout, so it's you know, just kind 232 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: of organized by the players and kind of getting stuff done. 233 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean, right out the season, the first thing I do, uh, 234 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'll take a week or two often I'll 235 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: just eat like crap and just sit around the house 236 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: and just try to you know, just I mean that's 237 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: just kind of like my routine. Then when I get 238 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: back into it's always kind of rough. But uh yea, 239 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: I'll take like a work or two just to eat 240 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: whatever I want, you know, snack. I'm not eating vegetables. 241 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm not eating anything grand there at that time. And 242 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: then uh, I mean some guys like to take trips 243 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Um, I don't know. I just 244 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: like to work out and you know, just kind of 245 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: stick around and obviously I'm not where I want to 246 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: be in my career, so um, kind of for me, 247 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: my my outlet is kind of just working out and 248 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: working on my craft and stuff like that. Early in 249 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: offseason then you know, I'm just kind of waiting around 250 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: to the guys to get back. Yeah, where do you 251 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: want to be in your career? For me, I find 252 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: myself you know, being being at least special teams player, um, 253 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: and obviously want to be a big contributor on defense. Um, 254 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I want to be. And you 255 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: know that's where I see myself doing. So however, I 256 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: got to get there. UM. At the end of the day, 257 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: I just want to be the best player I can 258 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: be in the best teammate I can be. Yeah, So 259 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: I just work towards that every single off season. Yeah. 260 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: And some new members of your family, right, yep, yep. 261 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: So I got a got a two year old son, 262 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: and I got a little girl on the way and 263 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: she'll be here in January. That's awesome, man, sir, What 264 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna do when we go on this long 265 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: playoff running You have a child right in the middle 266 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: of the trip of the way to the Super Bowl. 267 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: Mother in law, that's that's one person that will be 268 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: uh you know, all kind of be uh hanging onto 269 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: a lot. So yeah, my mother in law anytime, uh 270 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: you know, we kind of have anything going on. She 271 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: comes in town for training camp, my father in laws 272 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: back in Texas, just kind of hanging out. So U 273 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: my in laws doing will do a great job of, 274 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind of holding everything down with my wife. Okay, 275 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: any are you done with kids? You're gonna have more? 276 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: Uh you got one of each? Yeah, I got one 277 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: of each. But uh so the households even. It's gonna 278 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: be even now. Yeah, two women and two men. You're 279 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna throw the balance off going forward. You know what, 280 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: I kind of want two boys. Uh, me and my wife. 281 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: We both grew up in a family of five kids 282 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: on each side. Wow, at first I want to five, 283 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: but then after after one, you're just kind of like, 284 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: kind we'll just kind of think about it. So right 285 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: now we're leaning towards three, maybe four, So we'll we'll 286 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of get through this next one and see see 287 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: where we're at. See all right, the hair it's getting 288 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: getting longer. You've always been a really short haired guy. 289 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: You show back up in the building and you're letting 290 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: it go. What's what's the goal with the hair and 291 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: you're just letting it? Yeah, I'm just just letting it go. 292 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: Ok just uh you know, it just kind of is 293 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: what it is. So what about the chin hair, letting 294 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: it go to you know what? I trimm it every 295 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: now and then kind of uh yeah, I'll just I'll 296 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: keep my face hair kind of clean and okay, go 297 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: from there. I think I might. I was talking to 298 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: Darius about this, he was on the show beginning to 299 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: camp and and I think I'm gonna trim this way 300 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: down right before the first game against the Giants and 301 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: then I'm not going to touch it until we're out 302 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: of football, so it hopefully and if we and if 303 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: we happen to get to the big Show and win 304 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: that thing, I may not trim it until the next 305 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: training camp. So I may I may have this. You'll 306 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: you'll definitely be James Harden for sure. Yeah, I'm interested 307 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: to see how you look once it's trimmed down. Right 308 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: before I'm gonna do I think I'm gonna knock it 309 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: way down. It's been a while since it's been that short. So, um, 310 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: what listen, I'm gonna let you go here because you 311 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get out there and get ready for practice. 312 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: But um, anything else, what's you know, what's what's going 313 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: on with you? Anything else you want to talk about 314 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: tell the people or tell me? Is oh yeah, so 315 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: uh yeah, as you know, we talked about the you know, 316 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: the back of the jersey. Yeah, stuff like that. So 317 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: my legal last name is just March. Just want to 318 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: clarify for a lot of people, because a lot of 319 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: people think that I have two last names. I only 320 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: have one. My legal last name is March, my wife's 321 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: last name is March, and my son's last name is 322 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: March and the Lillard part came from my dad. You know, 323 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: he had his fifth heart surgery when I was a 324 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: senior in uh college, so I kind of put on 325 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: there to you know, honor him and stuff like that, 326 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: and then, uh, when I was a rookie, it wasn't 327 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: on my jersey. So then uh, my next year, he 328 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: I got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and he only had 329 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: about six months to live. So I was like, hey, 330 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna put this on my jersey, back 331 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: on my jersey, kind of honoring for that. And then 332 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: as soon as I did that, the NFL kind of 333 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: like tagged it online and stuff like that as far 334 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: as like that was my last name. So you know, 335 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: then after I was just bouncing around, every team had 336 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: it as that. Um so I think I think finally 337 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm able to you know, just kind of go back 338 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: to just March on the back of my jersey. That's 339 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: something that uh, you know, I've been contemplating constoplating for 340 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: a while and you know, just having kids and stuff. 341 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: I was able to honor you know, my father in 342 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: that way and wearing his last name on the back 343 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: of my jersey. But now that I have kids and 344 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, a family of my own. I would kind 345 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: of want, uh, you know, my legacy to begin. And 346 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: uh so I'll be going back to back to just 347 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: march on the jersey, so so it won't be all 348 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the way across the back of the right in the middle, 349 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: so to be uh back to you know, just kind 350 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: of how how I grew up and stuff like that. 351 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: So that's a cool story, man, that's a cool story. Well, 352 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it right now. It would be the 353 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: perfect Cinderella story if if we go all the way 354 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: to the Big Show and that winds up being in Miami, 355 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: a team that that that lets you go and let 356 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: you get away and you that would just be the 357 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: icing on the cake. And plus I want to go 358 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: to Miami. I've never been in Miami. I've only been 359 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: to Fort lauder Day. I've been to that stadium, I 360 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: think in preseason or actually during the season when it 361 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: just it rained like crazy. Were you here then? Oh? 362 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: I was not. No, I think that was maybe four 363 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: years three or four years ago. But yeah, so I'm 364 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna call it. That's that's my prediction. We're gonna do it. 365 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it big in Miami. Gonna take you 366 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: back there and then and that's where they were in 367 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: the season. That's it, man, that's it. Well, hey, appreciate it. 368 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: One of my favorites on the team. Man. I'm always 369 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: rooting for you. Um good things this year. Got a 370 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: great group of linebackers and y'all just keep doing what 371 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: you do. Man. We'll get you on during the season 372 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: when we get back to Frisco. So I appreciate you 373 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: hanging out, you beatman. We'll hopefully have another show or 374 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: two before we get out of here. But that's it 375 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: for now. Hang it with the boys. This has been 376 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 377 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Clock.