WEBVTT - Trish Stratus Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>So my family has had to make so many adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>to our daily life since I have started season thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four of Dancing with the Stars. I'm just not able

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<v Speaker 1>to be there as often as I used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I used to regularly pick both of them

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<v Speaker 1>up from school, take them to karate, take them to baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>On the weekends. I was always at their baseball games,

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<v Speaker 1>and we could have playdates, and we would, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do movie nights. And now I just haven't really been

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<v Speaker 1>able to be too present. I am if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>at rehearsal, I'm doing an interview for Dancing with the Stars,

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<v Speaker 1>like our master interviews or our ot or I had

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<v Speaker 1>high press, I'm doing one of the many podcasts that

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<v Speaker 1>we do, and I you know, or I'm seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>PT you know, or I'm in a wardrobe fitting, or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at a hair and makeup fitting, or we're in

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<v Speaker 1>camera blocking, like there's always something to do. And my

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<v Speaker 1>dad called maybe about two weeks ago, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>what I really want to know is how are the

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<v Speaker 1>kids handling it? Because this is such a total change

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And at the time, the very honest truth

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<v Speaker 1>was they were thriving, like Jensen was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, Moody's get along fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everyone was stoked, and like, I felt really

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<v Speaker 1>good being able to be like, wow, it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>relief to not have all of this, you know, day

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<v Speaker 1>to day constant house pressure, like taking care of the

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<v Speaker 1>house pressure, taking care of the kid's pressure. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>really what a selfish but like selfish in a great

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<v Speaker 1>way thing I've been able to do to just really like,

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<v Speaker 1>what a gift. I've been able to focus on this

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been just about me, and it's felt really good,

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<v Speaker 1>and like everyone was doing really great. Jensen was loving it,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's been you know, we're all exhausted, but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone seemed fine. And I'd come home from work and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids would say, how is your dance and do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a video? Let me see it, and they'd

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<v Speaker 1>want me to walk them through what the dance was

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<v Speaker 1>about or whatever. And then a couple of days pass

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<v Speaker 1>after I have this conversation with my dad and we

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<v Speaker 1>get a call from Adler's school and it's his teacher

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<v Speaker 1>and she says, so, we had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an issue today with Adler, and I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about it. And we're like Okay, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, well, he's been having a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble self starting on some of his work.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the club, and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, And so I started asking him, like what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on? And he told us that he is feeling

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<v Speaker 1>very stressed because his dad input it a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>information on the computer wrong and then got fired. And

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<v Speaker 1>he his dad is very nervous that he's never going

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<v Speaker 1>to get another job. And none, none of this is true, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Single a computer programming job we're unaware of.

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<v Speaker 1>No, none of that's true. And the teacher was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that does sound stressful, and he said, yeah, my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>very upset about it and he's very nervous. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he said and also my mom died, and the teacher

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<v Speaker 1>said I'm sorry, and he was like, yes, my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just saw her last week.

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<v Speaker 1>And the teacher was like, well, why don't you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me more about that, because didn't want to shut him down,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be like oh she didn't, just like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you tell me more about that? And he

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<v Speaker 1>kept going, but then at some point just said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's not true, and then moved on and like wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, so, I just wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys about it. So I get out of rehearsal

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<v Speaker 1>that day at like two pm and was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>see the PT and was like, not going to go

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<v Speaker 1>see the PT. I'm just going to go pick up

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<v Speaker 1>Adler from school. And so I get to your school, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get to the school and he sees me

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<v Speaker 1>on campus and he comes running to me. He goes, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing here? This is a Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and what are you doing here? And I go, I

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<v Speaker 1>got out of rehearsal and I just I missed you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to pick you up and so, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. And he goes, great, what are we doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you've got movie night with your friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you've you know, you were seeing you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get together with these people and you're doing a movie night.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, oh, yeah, I remember that, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I just want to hang out with

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<v Speaker 1>you tonight. I said, well, actually, while you are at

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<v Speaker 1>movie and I I have to go back to rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 1>And he bursts into tears and says, I hate this job.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you take this job? All you do is dance, dance, dance, dance,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you do. You never get to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with me and Keaton anymore. I want you to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to quit or not?

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<v Speaker 3>God?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I was like, oh, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you've been feeling this way for a while and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you just haven't been telling anybody. Yes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>been feeling this way for a long time. And you

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<v Speaker 1>even got hurt. Your leg was purple, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>then all this just apparently everything just came out. And

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<v Speaker 1>I like reached my hand into the back because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's sitting behind me in his car seat, and I

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<v Speaker 1>reached my hand into the back and he kicked my

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<v Speaker 1>hand away, and I was like, okay, I like pulled

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<v Speaker 1>my hand for it, and I said, I I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell that this is really hurting you. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry because I have obviously not done a

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<v Speaker 1>good enough job of being able to connect with you

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<v Speaker 1>when I have been able to see you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I haven't seen you as much as I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to be with you before. But my love

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<v Speaker 1>for you doesn't change when we're apart. And he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to know if you're going to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, Mommy is not going to quit her job.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, why why won't you quit your job?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, a couple of reasons. One mommy

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<v Speaker 1>really loves her job, and two because this job is

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<v Speaker 1>not forever, and i made a commitment to the job,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not going to quit. And he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>but you even got hurt, and I said, and you

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<v Speaker 1>got hit with a baseball and baseball, but you still

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<v Speaker 1>play baseball. And when you're in karate, you have heard

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<v Speaker 1>you've rolled your angle in karate, and you still continue

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<v Speaker 1>with karate. I said, I'm okay, and I'm and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue the job. I said, but no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>this job is over by Thanksgiving and we've got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then things will go back to normal. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the meantime, you and I will find special

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<v Speaker 1>ways to connect when I am able to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the next few weeks, it's still going to

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<v Speaker 1>be really hard. And it's totally understandable that you're angry,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I love you very much and I'm thankful,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for telling me, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>always tell me when you're upset. And I said, and

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<v Speaker 1>so do you think maybe that this is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why you told your teacher that daddy got fired and

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<v Speaker 1>mommy died. And he was like yes, and I said okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we get home and he walks in and

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<v Speaker 1>as he walks in, he goes, one last chance, are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to quit?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, mommy is not going to quit her job.

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<v Speaker 1>And he walked in, slammed the door, went into the

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<v Speaker 1>other room. Keaton's there, and so Keaton's like, mommy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I grab Keaton. I talked to Keaton a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>minutes past and the nather goes, mom I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, come in here, I need you. I said okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I go around the corner and he goes, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, all of that's tough, all man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gave him a hug. And anyway, we're still

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<v Speaker 1>we're still working through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. A couple questions.

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<v Speaker 4>One when he kicked your hand away, did he pull

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<v Speaker 4>the kick back in a good snap.

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<v Speaker 1>Give kick onration?

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<v Speaker 4>I was wondering if the other call was going to be,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, your school calls and they're like, we've had

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<v Speaker 4>a problem with Adler. He got in a fight with

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<v Speaker 4>another boy and he did an Argentine tango on his face.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, well yeah, I mean again, you're you're busy

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<v Speaker 3>rider and I have been wanting you to quit this job.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had that whole crying thing with you too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We announced on our other podcast that Danielle had died, right, yeah, Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>Computer job. That's how moral people act out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't express that we miss you. We just make

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<v Speaker 3>up lies for further attention him. And I'm Wilfredell and

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<v Speaker 3>our partner just flew to the moon.

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<v Speaker 5>So here it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Your schedule is ridiculous, though, I mean it is. It

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<v Speaker 4>is really ridiculous. And I know it's a finite schedule,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean, damn it's This has become basically a

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four to seven job for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, literally. Well that's the other thing I forgot all

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<v Speaker 1>about factoring in social media posts. We have to like

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<v Speaker 1>twice a week, meet with meat, meet and spend an

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<v Speaker 1>hour each time just coming up with posts.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what makes jealous, that's what makes to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>The party loves he's got up here.

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<v Speaker 3>They just can't get out all up here.

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<v Speaker 1>My next favorite thing that happened was yesterday. Adler. For

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of days, like right after the live show,

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<v Speaker 1>Adler wants to watch Dancing with the Stars every morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to like rewatch all the performances. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching it a couple of times in this last week.

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<v Speaker 1>When Elaine was in the ambulance, Adler looked at me

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, I want you to have to go

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<v Speaker 1>in an ambulance so that you can come home.

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<v Speaker 3>Please. Well, you basically would have gotten the same scores.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, my kids want me injured.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the good news is if the if the worst

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<v Speaker 2>happens and you get kicked off Dance with the Stars,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be so happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Homecoming when that.

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<v Speaker 1>Happens, exactly like I know it is. It is very sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, just hang the mirror ball in their room.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna have to buy two mirror balls.

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<v Speaker 3>So you actually have to keep a mirror ball if

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<v Speaker 3>you win.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's oh yeah, I'm sure it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It like a big disc, it's a trophy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's got a big round bass and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's got you know, like a stand and then a

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<v Speaker 1>ball that sits on top of it, and it says

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<v Speaker 1>dancing with the stars across it. It's like the logo

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<v Speaker 1>all rhyin stoned out.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it more opulent than when I was the UH

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<v Speaker 4>in the parade and Christmas in Louisville, Kentucky in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety three?

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<v Speaker 3>I got this little plaque?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yours? Is probably better?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not nearly as Film Award though, Wollhard our paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that it has a golden seal on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Oh that's just your nomination though.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just what I was nominated. It's an honor

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<v Speaker 3>just to be nominated. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that is.

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<v Speaker 4>What I really want to do, is direct kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to bond Reads World. I'm Danielle Fischl, right or Strong.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Will Ferdell.

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<v Speaker 1>To be considered a goat in your chosen profession is

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<v Speaker 1>as much of a burden as it is a blessing,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're Michael Jordan in basketball, tiger Woods and golf

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<v Speaker 1>me in ballroom dancing. Heavy is the head that wears

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<v Speaker 1>the crown, And somehow this week's guest is not only

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<v Speaker 1>a goat in her field, she continues to set the

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<v Speaker 1>standard twenty five years later. She's a WWE Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Famer who holds the record for longest reign of any

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<v Speaker 1>women's World champion in the twenty first century at four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred forty eight days. Widely regarded as the greatest female

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<v Speaker 1>wrestler of all time, she's a record seven time Women's

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<v Speaker 1>champion who has returned to the WWE now mixing it

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<v Speaker 1>up with the wrestlers she inspired, celebrating her twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year in the industry. She is an absolute icon who

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<v Speaker 1>brings fans not only a sense of nostalgia, but an

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<v Speaker 1>example of strength and perseverance that goes well beyond championship

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<v Speaker 1>titles and pile drivers. And she's been on enough magazine

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<v Speaker 1>covers to personally offend trees. Welcome to pod meets World.

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<v Speaker 1>The quintessential WWE diva, Canada's greatest export, the Queen of

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<v Speaker 1>Queen's and the best diva ever. It's Trish Stratus. Yeah, Hey, hi, Trish,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? This is awesome? Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for doing this.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course I was like, I know this is gonna

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<v Speaker 5>happ one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Days, right absolutely. I just as my first question to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know, have you also been told

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere around thirty thousand times that we look alike. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a massive honor every time it happens. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know if it happens to you too, I feel.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly the same way. I think maybe thirty three thousand

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<v Speaker 5>times thirty three I remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see, I don't I was gonna say, glasses,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know who she is. Clark Clark, that

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<v Speaker 3>was John. I got the reference, I got the yes, will.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a fan for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not until this very podcast during my research,

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<v Speaker 1>did I realize that you went to the university in

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto to become a doctor?

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<v Speaker 5>Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh my gosh, what specific field were you interested in?

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<v Speaker 5>So? I was always wanted to be a pediatrician. I

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<v Speaker 5>studied by so first I was biology and chemistry double major,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I like always was, you know, sports, grew

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<v Speaker 5>up playing just total tomboy, and so then I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of merged into some of my passion, which was kinesiology.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was biologic kinesiology, and the idea was to

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<v Speaker 5>become a doctor. I wanted to be a pediatrician, and

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<v Speaker 5>that I mean, I really look back when I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I did a documentary for Andy, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 5>when you pull out all these everything when you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I actually have stuff when I was a kid, so

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<v Speaker 5>I like journals and I was like little pictures of

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<v Speaker 5>me being like, I want to be a doctor since

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<v Speaker 5>I was as like, you know, tiny as I could remember,

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<v Speaker 5>so it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, how did you then make a detour because you

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<v Speaker 1>started modeling? So how did you make the detour from

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<v Speaker 1>school and being becoming a doctor and and then incorporating

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<v Speaker 1>modeling into that.

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<v Speaker 5>So my university went on strike, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like hyper focused everything I was doing from the time,

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<v Speaker 5>even before you know, in high school. I was like

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<v Speaker 5>I started volunteering at the hospital. I was prepping to

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<v Speaker 5>become a doctor from a very young age. And then

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<v Speaker 5>my university. I was three years in and my university

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<v Speaker 5>went on strike. So the professors striked and everyone, like

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<v Speaker 5>the kids just went and we literally just waited for

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<v Speaker 5>school to come back in session. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the art students went back and just did their exams

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<v Speaker 5>and things like that, but a lot of the science

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<v Speaker 5>students had to go back and do you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>the hands on practicums and stuff. So so during that time,

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<v Speaker 5>though I got discovered, I was working at a gym.

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<v Speaker 5>Just my thought was just to go work at a

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<v Speaker 5>gym so that I could train for free and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>keep ready for my sports because I was playing field

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<v Speaker 5>hockey for university and I was playing soccer for my

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<v Speaker 5>town and and so I was waiting for them to

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<v Speaker 5>come back in session. And so fitness modeling everyone kind

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<v Speaker 5>of knows it now, but back in yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 5>not really a thing. It was sort of like there

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<v Speaker 5>was women bodybuilding and not really fitness models. Nothing really

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<v Speaker 5>like attainable or like achievable or healthy necessarily as well.

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<v Speaker 5>And so one of the publishers of the bodybuilding magazine

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<v Speaker 5>saw this sort of missing niche and he started Oxygen magazine.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys might have known it, might know it, but

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<v Speaker 5>Oxygen magazine. And so he was like, Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to start this thing. I think it's a niche. And

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<v Speaker 5>he went out and like handpicked a bunch of women

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<v Speaker 5>to basically be his his supermodels of you know, of

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<v Speaker 5>the fitness modeling world, to launch this world of fitness modeling.

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<v Speaker 5>So he basically slept us on the cover of magazines

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<v Speaker 5>and said this is Tristratus. She's the newest and hottest

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<v Speaker 5>fitness model. And I was somewhat and there he was,

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<v Speaker 5>and I suddenly had a career, and then school came

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<v Speaker 5>back in session and I was like on the cover

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<v Speaker 5>of magazines. I was starting to do autograph signings at stores,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, it was just it was became this

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<v Speaker 5>little uh, I had a career suddenly, So going back

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<v Speaker 5>and like balancing the two, going back to full time

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<v Speaker 5>school and like you know, I was doing and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the bodybuilding thing where you're carrying the lunch in the

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<v Speaker 5>you know, rotine and chicken and broccoli three to six

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<v Speaker 5>times a day, so you would be carrying that to class,

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<v Speaker 5>and it just didn't work out. So I just at

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two years old, I was like, I'm gonna I

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<v Speaker 5>think I'm going to take advantage of this little opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>have and then focused on fitness modeling. It did that

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<v Speaker 5>for a couple of years and banged out half a

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<v Speaker 5>dozen covers and then ended up from wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, how did that phone call from WWE come about?

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<v Speaker 1>Because now there are tryouts and there are performance centers,

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<v Speaker 1>but back then they had to contact you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Oh it was. It was such a different world.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it now it's I mean, as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a whole thing. It's they they're grooming their talent

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<v Speaker 5>to become in the big leagues, right, so it's like

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<v Speaker 5>the minor leagues. And back in the day it was

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<v Speaker 5>like traditionally most people were sort of in the independent scene,

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<v Speaker 5>wrestling and doing their things, and then they would get

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<v Speaker 5>discovered or someone would see them or they you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Internet would make them popular and then people they'd seek

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<v Speaker 5>them out. Mine was a little different. I was on

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<v Speaker 5>television show with one of my magazine covers to promote it,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I don't know if you can, so in

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<v Speaker 5>Canada we had this thing I'm in Canada. A yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>in Canada we had this thing called slam Jams. Do

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<v Speaker 5>you remember that? Did anybody? Okay, So Michael Days, he

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<v Speaker 5>was basically to the Canadian audience, was like, Hey, Canada,

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<v Speaker 5>we're coming to and it was like just for the

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<v Speaker 5>Canadian broadcast, a little like little vignettes for them, right.

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<v Speaker 5>And so they were filming it in the studio next

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<v Speaker 5>to where I had filmed my interview for my for

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<v Speaker 5>my magazine, and they're like they knew I loved wrestling.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, oh, they're doing And I mean when I

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<v Speaker 5>say I love wrestling, like they used to come to me,

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<v Speaker 5>used to come to at the time, used to come

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<v Speaker 5>pay with gardens. I used to go when I was

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<v Speaker 5>a kid. I grew up watching it. I was that

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<v Speaker 5>that was my thing. And so they're like, we know

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<v Speaker 5>you love wrestling. They're actually filming slam jams next door.

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<v Speaker 5>If you want to go sit in the audience. It

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<v Speaker 5>was like, oh my god. So I go in there

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<v Speaker 5>and Michael Hayes, who's well known from back in the day.

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<v Speaker 5>He he actually spotted me and said, oh, you're your

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<v Speaker 5>true stretus from the Fitness Muscle mags. And I was like, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I am cool. And he says, why did you send

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<v Speaker 5>your stuff to us? And I was like like, there

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<v Speaker 5>was no you know, this is like nice ninety No,

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<v Speaker 5>this is nineteen nine nine. There's like not really a

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<v Speaker 5>flourishing women's anything, right except for the women who walk

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<v Speaker 5>the men to the ring. And so I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>so what do I do there? I never thought that

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<v Speaker 5>would be something I could do. I never saw wrestle,

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<v Speaker 5>I never watched wrestling. Assaut like, oh, I can do

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<v Speaker 5>that like they do now, right, and so I just said, okay, sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll do that. So I prepared a press kit. I

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<v Speaker 5>sent it to them and I didn't hear back initially.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I didn't hear back for a couple months,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, well, let me prepare the best possible

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<v Speaker 5>package AKA me and I went and found where Edge

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<v Speaker 5>from Toronto as well, and I went found out where

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<v Speaker 5>he trained and I knocked on the door and said, hi,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to train, and they're like, oh, isn't she cute?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you want to do, honey like? And I said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be like I want to be treated

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<v Speaker 5>like the boys. So I was thrown into this wrestling

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<v Speaker 5>gym basically with all boys, and I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 5>treated like the boys. And I learned to wrestle, and

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<v Speaker 5>then they called a couple of months later, Jim Ross

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<v Speaker 5>called me up to Connecticut and then I went and

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<v Speaker 5>met with him, and then I went okay, I went

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<v Speaker 5>home to Toronto. A couple of weeks later, I had

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<v Speaker 5>a contract offer. So it was sht off. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 5>my compre just meets opportunity, you know, Because there was

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<v Speaker 5>a moment in the meeting where he was like all right,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's like because it's like there wasn't women much, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So he was like, I'm just like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a very physical job. It's you know, you can get bumped.

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<v Speaker 5>And it wasn't He wasn't even saying me wrestling. He

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<v Speaker 5>was just saying, as the valet on the side, you

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<v Speaker 5>might get bumped down and someone might throw a shoe

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<v Speaker 5>at you, like something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was like, yeah, well I've been training for

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<v Speaker 5>a few months now, and so I had that, and

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<v Speaker 5>I really feel like he was like okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and kind of just took a note of that, and

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like that made a big difference in the interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, were you already a fan of wrestling?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, oh, yeah, grew up watching it. Yeah, Mayple Leaf

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<v Speaker 5>Gardens was like a hotbed for wrestling. You know, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of their they came there quite often, and I

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<v Speaker 5>saw them quite a bit. And uh yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>I had boy cousins. I tried my best to be

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<v Speaker 5>hang with the boys even from a young age. And

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, I was a big fan of wrestling and

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<v Speaker 5>so grew up watching it, and so again like but

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<v Speaker 5>never saw myself in it. You know, everyone says, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>did you grew up saying, you know when I grew

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<v Speaker 5>up on O'll be arest. But the girls do that

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<v Speaker 5>now thanks to what we've done. But back then, there

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<v Speaker 5>was nothing really to watch to go okay, I want

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<v Speaker 5>to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, at the time, was your family like okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>hang on, You're going to give up being a doctor

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<v Speaker 4>to be a professional wrestler and you're like yep, And

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<v Speaker 4>were they I mean, were they supportive or look?

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<v Speaker 5>Ultimately they so luckily the transition wasn't like overnight. It

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<v Speaker 5>was like there was that holt in school where they

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<v Speaker 5>saw me, you know, start training. Then I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, I got this opportunity to be on

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<v Speaker 5>a cover, and then I was They saw me like hardcore,

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<v Speaker 5>doing the training, the eating. It's a whole discipline, right

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<v Speaker 5>that you have to endure in order to have that

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<v Speaker 5>physique and then to do that that discipline. So they

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<v Speaker 5>saw that. Then they saw the result of my hard

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<v Speaker 5>work being on covers, getting suddenly being booked, making money

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<v Speaker 5>suddenly with a job of a career. And so when

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of transitioned, it was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 5>a I'm going to give this a whirl. And they

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<v Speaker 5>were like, I mean, look, they were just they I

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<v Speaker 5>was a sports kid, I was a performance kid. So

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<v Speaker 5>when I could join my two worlds and do this

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<v Speaker 5>amazing thing, They're like, yeah, I mean, give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 5>I was twenty two years old at the time, like

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three, actually, you know, let's give it a roll.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, they're okay, what is.

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<v Speaker 1>The learning curve of going from I don't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about wrestling to being very proficient in the ring. How

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<v Speaker 1>how quickly did you feel you accomplish that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was pretty crappy in the ring for a little while.

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<v Speaker 5>Why even in front of thousands of people, Like it

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.679
<v Speaker 5>was like okay, yeah, no, I definitely had you know,

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 5>in the business, we call you being green. I definitely

0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 5>had my green phase. But I'll tell you I think

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.240
<v Speaker 5>it's really that was what allowed the audience to have

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 5>that special connection with me where they're like, oh, here's

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 5>this chick who's like some fitness chick and she's in

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.880
<v Speaker 5>the restling world. But hey, I saw her like kind

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 5>of do a move that's cool, and they saw me

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.680
<v Speaker 5>try and try. I said to myself, each week I

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:56.399
<v Speaker 5>go out, I just have to like improve. I have

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.159
<v Speaker 5>to do better than I did last week. And so

0:22:58.200 --> 0:22:59.919
<v Speaker 5>they literally came on this journey where they saw me

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 5>fall down, you know, stand up again, desk myself off,

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:04.679
<v Speaker 5>and like go at it again. And they saw me

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 5>do really crappy matches and pretty awful moves at times,

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 5>but they said, but they saw the improvement. They watched it.

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 5>It was like a true underdog story. Like they literally

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 5>watched me go from here to there and they were

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 5>along for the journey. So when I eventually won the

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.880
<v Speaker 5>Women's Championship, which I was the greenest wrestler in that match.

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:23.959
<v Speaker 5>When I first and that Woman's Championship match the first time,

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 5>I want it and people were like, oh, I did

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 5>not expect that. Like it was like you can hear

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.679
<v Speaker 5>there's a palpable crowd reaction, like, oh I did not

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 5>expect that, you know, not that one to it. But

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:34.959
<v Speaker 5>they were happy for me, you know, and then they

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 5>got to see me grow into the role. So yeah,

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 5>there was definitely a learning curve and it was tough

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 5>for sure, because you know, not everyone was supportive and everything,

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 5>but but I do my connection with the audience was

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 5>definitely because of that really organic rise that I got

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 5>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so curious.

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, as somebody who grew up doing sports,

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 4>you obviously know that there's a very big difference between

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 4>being hurt and being injured. And it seems to me

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 4>that every time I watch a wrestling match, I understand

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 4>injuries can be rare, but I'm like, how do you

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 4>not get hurt every single match?

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you get hurt every match? Essentially?

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 5>You know, It's like, I know, it sounds weird. It's

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 5>like a calloused body in a way. So the first

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 5>time I went to that, I walked in. My trainer's

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 5>name was Ron Hutchinson. I walked in. He's like, all right,

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 5>hit the ropes and you're like, oh my, you think

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 5>you know you see us bouncing off the ropes. When

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 5>you hit the ropes for the first time, it's just like,

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:28.719
<v Speaker 5>don't out, Okay, it's not there's no bounce whatsoever. And

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 5>people think, you know, the mac goes like it's a

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.919
<v Speaker 5>it's not a cushion. Yeah, it has a little bit

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 5>of give, but that's so you don't biw your knees out.

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 5>But it's not a cushion, you know. And especially I trained,

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 5>there was a it wasn't even there wasn't a wrestling

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 5>right at the time, I was in boxing ring, so

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 5>it was even more you know, solid, but yeah, your body.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 5>So at first it was just like black and blue

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 5>for weeks on end, and you're just like, okay, let's

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 5>go keep going, and as long as you can keep

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 5>them during it. It's just eventually you learn how to fall.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 5>Property of course, you learn how to you know, take up.

0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 5>It's like stunt stunts to a certain degree, right, you

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 5>learn to properly fall into take the fall certain way.

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 5>You know. We always say keep your neck to your chin,

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, so I'm sorry, next to your chin, that's

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 5>that you'll be like a whole another level, you know.

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 5>So it's like little things like that. So you don't snap.

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 5>You're not getting whiplash every time you hit them.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 1>At like that.

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 5>So you you know, you train and you learn and

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 5>you get used to it, and it's kind of like

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 5>a callous body sort of after a while, you don't

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 5>get the bruises, you hit the ropes and it's kind

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 5>of fine, and you know, and then don't don't get

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 5>it wrong because when you take a break and you

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 5>retire and then you go back you get the bruses again.

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's the physical part.

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>But I want to hear about, like what about getting

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 2>used to being a celebrity, being a performer, having to

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 2>do interviews. Did that come naturally to you or is

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>that likewise a learning curve.

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 5>So I was very lucky that I had a little

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 5>bit of training with the fitness modeling, right, So I

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 5>was very quickly sort of thrust into the spotlight. I

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 5>was like, you know, like I said, I went from

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 5>like university student and like the most I mean was

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 5>I was a little bit of a you know, I

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 5>was a memorable player on my team, so I always

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 5>kind of was like in the local paper and like

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 5>things like that. So I would do little interviews and

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 5>things like that. But when I got into the fitness modeling,

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 5>it was like when I say it was a new industry,

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 5>like there was only like we always equate it to

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 5>like the supermodels back in the nineties, where there was

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 5>Cindy and Naomi and Evangelista. So there was like me

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 5>am badly Monica brand. There was like seven or eight

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 5>of US and every magazine was US, and so very

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 5>quickly they just turned this industry into a thing, right,

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 5>He blew it up. Suddenly there was fitness magazine. Suddenly

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 5>it was an industry, and so we were we had

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 5>to go. We were the ones blowing it up. We

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 5>are the ones doing the interviews. We were the ones

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 5>on you know what was it Access Hollywood? I think

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 5>it was back then, right, We were on the all

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 5>those shows sort of like introducing this new industry and

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 5>showing what fitness modeling was, and then all just doing

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 5>all these interviews. I would do interviews for the magazines

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 5>and things like that, and so I got those sort

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 5>of media training. So I was lucky. And I think,

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, people kind of you sometimes you have it,

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 5>you have it. Some people kind of are smart, right,

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, but I mean a different level when, of

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 5>course you're walking through and there are crowds and there's

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.719
<v Speaker 5>thousands of people that you meet you at the airport,

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 5>that was definitely a different level for sure.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean around the year two thousand, you become

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the most recognizable faces in the company, and

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>not just for your beauty but for your in ring

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>talents and your personality. But looking back, so much of

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that era involved these awkward, like horny storylines for men. Yes,

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and you were able to push so far beyond that.

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Was it hard though, to get people to see you

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>as more than just the hot chick?

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it wasn't even that was

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 5>so it was almost like you have to like reprogram

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 5>the audience. They were used to chanting puppies. You know,

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you guys like who I know,

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 5>they don't know you are. I don't know if you

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 5>guys like back in the day, it was like women

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 5>would come out and they're like, we want puppies. That

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 5>is what we were like that. So we went through

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 5>a phase where we're like, we're gonna have wrestling match

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 5>and they're.

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Changing and do you want to tell them what puppies is?

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>They don't understand.

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm missing some of the puppies.

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Puppies they wanted. They wanted they were.

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, yes, can you imagine?

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 5>And it's so funny cause it's almost like, you know,

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 5>when you go back and watch a Disney movie like

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Pinocchio and you're like, is he okay?

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 3>So my kid?

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, so back in the day when you watch

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 5>that old school wrestling, you're kind of like, did your

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 5>loller just say yeah, he's referring to breasts. Yeah, so

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 5>we had to endure that. We had to like get

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 5>through it, you know, we had to like yeah, and

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 5>my well, the only way to do it was to

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 5>prove that you deserve to be there more than just

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 5>those chances you deserve to get. So I remember there's

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 5>a turning point. I remember we started wrestling a little

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 5>bit more so the audience was kind of like, you know,

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 5>learning to see us wrestle now, and there was a

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 5>it was Thanksgiving and so they approached us and we

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 5>were we felt like we're kind of starting to move

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 5>out of the the girly stuff like the cat fights

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 5>and the things like paddle on a pole match like

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>it crazy stuff that you're believe me, and back when

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 5>we do when we're doing it, we were like, I

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 5>think we have to like go through the motions fly crador,

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 5>but start getting some real stuff in. Like we thought,

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna trade those the slaps and the hair pulls

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 5>for like punches and for like chops, you know what

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean. And so slowly we started to do that,

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 5>and like we were kind of like reprogramming the audience

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 5>to like expect that from me, because they really weren't

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 5>at first and believe me, even backstage there was producers going, yeah,

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 5>we don't. People don't want to see women punch each other.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 5>They want to see hair pulling, they want to see

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 5>cat fighting. They don't want to see that from the

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 5>ash like we were told that were like and it

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 5>was like literally like stop that, don't do that. We

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 5>had to like anyone looking you know what I mean.

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Like why not just give you pillows and call it

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 3>a day.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, that's what they for sure wanted. I mean there

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 5>were many pillow fights.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like it was yeah, I mean there was I.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 5>Think wrestle media. There was like I can't remember. I

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 5>think I was out there by them, but I think

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 5>it was a wrestle media because pillow fire for the women,

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Like yeah, it was pretty bad for a while, but

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 5>like so we just knew it was like if we

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 5>just like keep sort of slipping it and be under

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 5>the radar. So they're like, oh, the women's match, Like,

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 5>don't worry, that's them. And for a while we were

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 5>the popcorn match. We're the bathroom break. We were that

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 5>until we started to just deliver and then when we

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 5>went out there and I think the turning point was

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 5>like you know a woman, her name is Jazz. It

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 5>was Jazz Victoria. These are women that I worked with,

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 5>and we were like, we need to change the narrative.

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 5>We need to change the conversation, you know, and change

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 5>the you know, what they expect from us in the ring.

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 5>They expect us to just be hot. So like I

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 5>even know, there was a point where I was dressing

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 5>I was dressing down. I wasn't like wearing what they

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 5>wanted to wear. I was like, don't notice what I'm wearing.

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 5>I didn't wear shorts. I was like, I'm putting on

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 5>full brigade wrestle, you know. And I was like. Then

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 5>we had a guy, an agent who was working with

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 5>his backstage and he was like, I want to see

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 5>you guys punch as well. And he goes, just just

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.479
<v Speaker 5>do it, just go do it like what you can

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 5>ask for forgiveness and permission at that point, right, So

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 5>we just started to go do it, and like slowly

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 5>but surely that we want puppies. Chance turned into I remember,

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 5>so this gravy bul mat. There was a thanksgiving we

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 5>had it. We we thought we were getting out of

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 5>this you know, crappy little pillow fights and things like that.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 5>But they're like, Okay, we're gonna have a Gravy Bowl match.

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 5>And we're like, oh, we thought we were passes. Okay,

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 5>but you have to do it. It's your job, right,

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, okay, we're gonna have a Gravya Bull match.

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna start it really cool. So we come out

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 5>on the stage the time they used to be the

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 5>ramps to be really high back in the day, and

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 5>so we had the top and I had Stacey just

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 5>like she tossed me right off the top and I

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 5>took a big bump from the top right and the

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 5>fans were like holy and when we have a whole

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 5>so you know, like that, we're just kind of slipping

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 5>in the cool and the good action. And after a

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 5>while they just started to become programmed to see us

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 5>like that, and you know, started to come around, and

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.719
<v Speaker 5>the puppies chance went away, and the and the cheering

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 5>for us and matches and false pan for our false

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 5>finishes started to happen, and it was like We're like,

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 5>we're doing it, like we were really doing it. So

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 5>it's pretty cool.

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 4>That's one of my favorite things I think about when

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 4>when Danielle like brought us into this world. I love

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 4>the kind of micro worlds where there's a whole language,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 4>there's an entire culture, there's a whole the music all

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 4>means something. I mean, every there there'd be one note

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 4>that would bang out and everyone would go nuts, and

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 4>I turned to Gensen or Danielle'll be like, Okay, what's happening, Like,

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 4>all right, here's what's going on. So, I mean, it's

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 4>really cool to see that there is an entire culture

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 4>based around this. Uh and the idea that you were

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 4>kind of there at the beginning for the women's side

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 4>of it is pretty spectacular because I again, I've only

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 4>seen two matches, but especially in the.

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 5>First one in preparation for the interview.

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Of course you saw mine, right, of course, of course,

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 3>no I met live. I've only seen two matches.

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Live, and it was I watched many oh many.

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Tons, yes, but the smacked out.

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I said to Danielle, I thought that the

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 4>women were frankly better than the guys. I mean, they

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 4>just they were at the time. It seemed there was

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 4>more athleticism at the time, and what I said was

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 4>like there was just more exciting. So going in as

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 4>a neophyte. I was like, these are just kind of

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 4>more exciting matches. Frankly, so, yeah, but it is there

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 4>that whole world. Getting into a whole new culture is

0:32:58.000 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 4>such a cool kind of experience.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I feel like the same like with the

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 5>with them, you know, everyone's like, how what's your what

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 5>do you attribute your success to? You? And I have

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 5>many things that I do attribute my success to. But

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 5>I was very lucky that I did come into these

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 5>at the beginning of these you know, the beginning of

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 5>these industries, right, Like fitness one was very new, so

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 5>I got to like explore before it became oversaturated, and

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 5>say with wrestling, because before you know, it became like it,

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 5>I just kind of gotten a chance to like get

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 5>it to a point where it was like it was

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 5>talked about and it was becoming mainstream and people were

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.239
<v Speaker 5>now demanding women's matches and we're getting equal time as

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 5>the men and things like that. So it was cool

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 5>to be a part of that sort of beginnings of things.

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>One other thing that really maybe sets you apart from

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>some of the other female wrestlers at the time was

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that you never posed for Playboy, which was almost like

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a guarantee if you were a female wrestler at the time,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>what made you make that decision and did you ever

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>second guess yourself?

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 5>No, Oh, my gosh, I it just it's just not

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 5>for me. When I I'm like a tomboy, Like even

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 5>though I'm known, I am known as a sex symbol.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 5>I suppose I heard that. Yeah, it was like, not me.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 5>It is my character you know here, you know, But

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 5>I mean I pull it off, you know, but if

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 5>I need to. But yeah, I know, it was not

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 5>even an option. Like I was like, oh, that is

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 5>just not me. Even when I had to do the

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 5>pillow fights and I actually I didn't have a pillow

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 5>fight one, but I had to do lu Ray stuff.

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 5>It was just it wasn't me. It felt it was

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 5>very put on. Even one time they had these annual magazines.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 5>It was called the Divas magazines. It was like star

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 5>swimsy illustrated magazine where we'd go down to some exotic

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 5>location shoot that well. I don't know if those budget

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 5>cuts or whatever it was, or maybe like you said,

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 5>the horny writers or storylines, but suddenly instead of the

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 5>annual bikini issue, they wanted a lingerie issue. And I

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, like I didn't want to do it,

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 5>and I just like it felt so silly to me,

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 5>so like I made this like whole look it was

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 5>like sports like it was like sports lingerie where I

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 5>did like you know, I like I like did the

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 5>socks and like made it, you know what I mean.

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.919
<v Speaker 5>I made it like athletics sexy, like I just said,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.439
<v Speaker 5>I just I don't know, so the sexy thing did comfort.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 5>So when Playwood came on, I was like absolutely not interested. Vince,

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, how did me like like crazy, Like

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 5>He's like, it's great opportunity. And I was shown also

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 5>during that time that but look at the opportunity if

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 5>you turned this down. So we're going to give your

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 5>opportunities to her. So and I'm like, no, I still

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 5>don't want to do it, thank you. And it came

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 5>to me for years and years and I just was

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 5>like no, and I do not regret it and never.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 5>It's just it's just not my thing. And now, my god,

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 5>now that a kids and everything, like I couldn't even imagine,

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.280
<v Speaker 5>to be honest, So I know that is my decision

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 5>to stand by it.

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, was there ever a storyline you remember?

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Just flat out saying no, too.

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, lots lots of them.

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was.

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 5>I had this. I understood that if you were to

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 5>say no, it was like say no, but so like

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.959
<v Speaker 5>I'd be like, I'm not doing that, but how about

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 5>we you know, I wanted to make sure I can

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 5>get there, but let's do it this way, you know.

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 5>So I most I got away with a lot of

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 5>stuff if I didn't want to do it, I said

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 5>no to it and got away with like my suggestion

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 5>or alternative way of approaching the same sort of outcome.

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 5>But there was one time that I flat it said

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 5>no it would involve me kissing another girl, and I

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 5>was like, I don't understand why you would no. I

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 5>don't know just how.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Does this play into how does this play into my

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>rest of the story.

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't think my character would do that or myself.

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I didn't do that, But then I was

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 5>I got stripped about right away, like literally was shown

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 5>that this was you were being punished for your decision,

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 5>like it was crazy. There was some crazy scenarios where

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 5>you yeah, they were you know. Anyway, I was told

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 5>like you're like, I was like, oh is this happening,

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 5>because yep, it sure is. And I was like, all right,

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 5>so they didn't even try it.

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 3>They didn't even try to hide it. They didn't even

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 3>try it.

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 5>They were but they would be people. There's so many

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 5>people backstages, all these producers, there's writers, there's you know,

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 5>and it kind of like I was like, is this

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 5>happening because yeah, oh okay, well that's okay. I still

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 5>stand by my decision, you know, you know, yeah, I mean, look,

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 5>eventually waited up at WrestleMania and Toronto, so they need

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 5>to be back to promote it.

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we have talked about it so much

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>on this show that like from the time you're a kid,

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>if depending on whenever you start, you learn very quickly

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that being a team player means doing whatever is asked

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of you, no matter what the cost to your personal

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>life is or what the cost is to anything. That

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>if you have any sort of boundaries, there will usually

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>be some negative repercussion for it. And yeah, I mean

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not definitely not surprised.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 4>It's super interesting though, because what I'm hearing from from

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 4>Trish and from things we heard growing up and stuff

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:58.479
<v Speaker 4>like that is it's usually always put to you as

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 4>if you realize how good this would be for you?

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Correct? Ye, Like this is for you. I'm really doing

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 3>this for you.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 4>And it's like, if you want to turn down that opportunity,

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 4>you're just shooting yourself in the foot because exactly this

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 4>is great for you, and it seems like that's kind

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 4>of the way to go about it.

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Like no, I'm I'm good, Thanks.

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I missed this opportunity.

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 3>I suppose yeah, I get yeah, exactly, yeah.

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:22.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is the most underrated wrestler you've

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>worked with? Male or female?

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Wow, uh, probably Natty Nightheart. I mean I feel

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 5>like she's getting her her flowers now and but I

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 5>mean I mean almost maybe not. I think if you

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 5>look at her Instagram, like danm this girl's busy. So

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 5>Nanny has been with this company for so long, I

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 5>mean obviously born and bred to be in this business.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 5>She's she's elevated and helped so many people. She's had

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 5>she's been the reason many people have had their best match.

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, she's contributed, she's given back, but she's never

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 5>ever she's kind of like the bridesmaid always, you know

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 5>what I mean. And she's happy, you know, she's one,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 5>she's been Woman's Champion, She's had her she's been she's

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 5>had her moments for sure. But like even in the

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 5>last little while, like it's really cool if you guys

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 5>follow her, like if you go to her Instagram, like

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 5>she kind of was like, I'm gonna go do my

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 5>own thing, and she started like creating this new character

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 5>that was like this bad like like one of those

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.800
<v Speaker 5>like underground fighting chicks because she can't and it was cool.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 5>Like so people are really resonant, and I'm like, I'm

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 5>waiting for like WWB, Like, oh that is cool. That's

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 5>resoning with people and it's real and authentic. And then

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 5>bring it to WI and I hope they don't, you know,

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.240
<v Speaker 5>tarnish it by bringing it to like you know, sometimes

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 5>the commercialize things and make it too shorty, you know,

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 5>when she is like this raw thing she's doing and

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, she's just released a book right now, and

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 5>so she's she's everwearen and it's just it's great to

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 5>see she's finally kind of getting out there. But I

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 5>would say like in the last little while, she hasn't

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.320
<v Speaker 5>been the highlight with storylines and things like that, you

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean. Yeah, but she has been the helper,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, the accessory and like, you know, people helping

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 5>the talent, which she's happy to do and she loves that.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 5>She actually loves that as well. But she's amazing and

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 5>uh man, her and I we were like two Canadians

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:07.760
<v Speaker 5>going at it. I mean, it's it would.

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Be no wait not to put you on the spot,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 4>but would you answer the opposite question, who's the most

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 4>overrated wrestler?

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Oh gosh, that's that's don't have to be mean

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 5>to some I think no, I know.

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm saying, you don't have to answer. I'm

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 3>just curious, just curious.

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 5>Me. I think people talking about me waiting. You know,

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 5>it's like, oh, she's still here, she's doing it for

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 5>twenty five years and she's still amazing.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh me, But it would be it would be

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 1>nearly impossible to be a wrestler man or woman and

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>not have found inspiration in you. I mean, dozens of

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>superstars in twenty twenty five list you as a major inspiration.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>What is your biggest piece of advice for longevity in

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this industry for some of the young up and coming Allan, I.

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 5>Think I always go so my new thing has been

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 5>that this is just a quirky one. But I've always

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 5>so now when people say like because now I'm still

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean I literally this was my twenty fifth anniversary

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 5>this year and I read and we you know, I looked,

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 5>I actually have this magazine coming out and they were

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 5>just putting me on the cover and they're like, once

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 5>I did the interview, They're like, way, this is a wait.

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 5>We didn't realize, Like it's twenty five years and you

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 5>still had three matches this year. Like that's insane, right,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 5>So they turn this issue now they're like celebrating the

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 5>twenty five years and so then so the thing is

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 5>when people are like, how are you still doing it?

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 5>Like even you know, talk to someone like Naomi who

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 5>just at Trinity, who you know, has just left. She

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 5>was a woman's champion, finally got to the very very

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 5>top of the you know, I mean, you know she

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 5>she's been amazing and contributed so much and she's finally

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 5>got the women's championship and then she's going to go

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 5>have a baby, right so she you know, which is yay, amazing.

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 5>So we got a chat, like, you know, I hope

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 5>she's okay. I'm me telling this story. But we had

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 5>a talk chat, you know, just literally months before that

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 5>when I was back on the road, and she was like, dude,

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 5>like it's so cool that, like, you know, showing that

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 5>like I went out, I went, I had my career, right,

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.240
<v Speaker 5>So two thousand, two thousand and six had my career

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 5>top of the line, left on top, left as champion,

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 5>great went started, businesses, started, my family, lived life, travel,

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 5>didn't wasn't bound to like three hundred days of the

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 5>year schedule that this. You know, it's a crazy world.

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 5>It's a crazy schedule. It's not fun. I mean it's fun,

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 5>but you cannot like I missed a lot of my

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 5>friend's weddings, babies been born, et cetera. Right, so I

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 5>got to live my life and then lucky me, I

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 5>got to go back. But like that's the cool thing.

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 5>It used to be like a shelf life for the women.

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 5>Now women are actually having their babies and then bring

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 5>them on the road and then going and wrestling. You know.

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 5>So Trinity was like, that's so cool. I love that.

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm like, you go have your babies, you there's

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 5>always room to come back, like at this day and age.

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 5>But so my point is I digress. So my number

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 5>one thing is do yoga. Okay, you know, but if

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 5>you want to be in the business for a long time,

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 5>if you don't want injuries. I have been in this

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 5>business for twenty five years and I barely know touch

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 5>would but the injuries have been I know not. I

0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 5>haven't been had too many injuries that have sidelined. So

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 5>yoga's number one. But I always tell people just find

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 5>and stay as authentic as you can find that character.

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.399
<v Speaker 5>Of course, like, yes, it's over the top, it's it's

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 5>very character driven. But when you find that that character

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 5>that like is is you know, rings true with you

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 5>because the fans, there's something about the fans, no, there's

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 5>that when there's that authenticity to the character, it resonates

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.399
<v Speaker 5>with the fans. They can feel it when when they

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 5>when somebody's coming from the heart, even if it's you know,

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 5>amplified twenty five times, because we are characters and we're

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 5>cricatures of ourselves out there. That's when people really feel it.

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 5>And that's when people say there's a little Jenna sa

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 5>Qua about it. There's like, I don't know what it

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 5>is about the person, it's because it's coming from a

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 5>true place. And that's often with actors too, like, you know,

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 5>how do they pull that roll off? And then you

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 5>hear about the story of like I drew from this,

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 5>you know. So when when your character out there is

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 5>drawing from a true place, it really really works. And

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 5>I think that is what I mean. The novelty characters

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 5>absolutely work as well, but not as not as much

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 5>as the long term, right, Like the longevity of your

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 5>personality and your person in the ring definitely true and

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.439
<v Speaker 5>a dick it goes the longest for sure.

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>That's so great. I love that advice about yoga. I'm like, man, oh,

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you need to be not everyone.

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 5>Like we should all have everybody. I don't know how

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 5>old you guys, but I'm old, and yoga I'm keep

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 5>it is keeping me young. I'm telling you, like it's

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 5>I went back and wrestled. I remember the first match.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 5>I was like, like, okay, So twenty twenty three, I

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 5>went back and wrestled for six months straight, did like.

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 5>It ended up being a six month run which again

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 5>had a wrestled in you know, one hundred years, and

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 5>I had a cage match, which back in my day

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 5>unheard of. Right, we don't we didn't. It wasn't an

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 5>option for the girls. That's what the boys did. You

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 5>guys can have a match, sure, but cool stuff and

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 5>like the extreme stuff. I mean women would you would.

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Die surely if you had a cad of course you

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>could never do it. Yeah, right, And so I had.

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 5>A cage match. I was. It was through. It was

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:47.879
<v Speaker 5>like a bucket list because I know it sounds weird.

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 5>I want to be tossed into like a metal uh

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, fence. But it was a time to come

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 5>up and do one. Me and Danielle should have a

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 5>cage match, but like maybe as teammate anyway. But I

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 5>had the match. The next day, I woke up and

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 5>I thought, oh my god, and I was like, okay,

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 5>I feel okay, you know, like I it's the yoga,

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 5>like the pliability of your body and all that.

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 4>So I must need a better I must need a

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 4>better yoga instructor, because every time I've tried yoga, it's

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 4>just a very clever way of hiding fifty push ups.

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 3>That's what it's like. Do down our dog again. Just

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 3>tell me to do a push up. Just tell me

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 3>to do a push up. That's all you need to

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 3>tell me.

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 5>Then you week biceps, so work on that and then class.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, no, my tri SEPs are are weak, but then again,

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 4>so is the rest of.

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 3>My body or why? But that that leads me to

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 3>a question, though, I have a question.

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 4>So have you had to tailor your performance the older

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 4>you get? I mean, can you do all the moves

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 4>now that you were able to do twenty five years ago?

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 5>So the crazy thing is is I can. So the

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 5>first one I got called back was okay, so just

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 5>fro the perspective. Two thousand and six is when I retired, okay,

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 5>which is so long ago. And then twenty eighteen was

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 5>the first time like they call me and they're like,

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 5>we're doing an all women's roller rumble and it's the

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 5>first ever, and we would love you to come back

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 5>and be in it. And I was like, oh, well,

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.800
<v Speaker 5>it's been like eleven whatever the math is eleven years

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 5>and I have birth two children. I was like, I

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 5>don't think and I was like, I'm just gonna pull

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 5>this off, Like I'm just going to be very minimal things.

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 5>I'll do my greatest hits, you know, I'll do that

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 5>one thing that I point and I do the thing

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 5>and I practice those four moves. I did it. Who

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 5>I did it? But then I was like, I kind

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 5>of did it though, and it was like kind of

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 5>like riding a bike actually. So then I went back

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 5>had another match twenty eighteen, and then twenty three I

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 5>went back into like a six month's run, and my

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.919
<v Speaker 5>body was like, yeah, this is fine. And then now

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 5>I like to go back. I love to be like,

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 5>let me do something that no one's seeing me do before.

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 5>So now because my body can, I'm trying things that

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 5>I have never done before, and I'm presenting a whole

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 5>different repertoire, a whole new move set nowadays. And it's

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 5>been fun to do that actually, because I like shocking

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 5>the pep. I just I did a moon salt for

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 5>the first time in my entire life. I don't know

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 5>if you know what that is even, but it's just

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 5>move that my rival had done, and I always took

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 5>moon salts my whole life. It's a it's a move

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 5>from the top rope and you go backwards, and she

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 5>would always give it to me. It was like Lyda

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 5>was my rival, which is my best die and my rival,

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 5>and she would just That's how I died, every move,

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 5>every match, and so I was like, I want to

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 5>do it as like an homage to her, plus the

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 5>partner that they're the person that I worked with did

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 5>a moon salt, So I was doing it as like

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 5>I know you kind of with the psychology. There was

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 5>I know your moves. I'm going to try your move

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 5>on you. And I hit my first moon salt in

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 5>my entire life, and it was super fun and the

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 5>fans were like, what the did she just do a

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 5>moon salt? And so that was fun to just do

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 5>things and I like those what the moments? Those are fun?

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 1>If you could go back in time and tell that

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>med school student but eventual international superstar one thing, what

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>would you tell her?

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Okay, I think there's two things. I have to

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 5>always say two things, because one is stay true to

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.879
<v Speaker 5>yourself always, and it's things like saying no to play Boy,

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 5>being like just who you are, I'm being authentic like

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 5>all that is so important and we'll give you the

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 5>longevity you need for sure. Also is enjoy the moment,

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 5>be in the moment, smell stop and smell the roses

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:13.320
<v Speaker 5>like that whole theory, because you know, I'm lucky that

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 5>I got to go back and then see it from

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 5>a different perspective. But back when I was you know,

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 5>twenty to twenty four years old and you know, in it,

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 5>I didn't I wasn't like realizing that, oh my god,

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 5>I got to travel the world. I went to like

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 5>I've been to every single state I've been to, all

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.840
<v Speaker 5>these countries, performed in front of you know, thousands and thousands.

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 5>But I was in this like crazy, you know, three

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:33.840
<v Speaker 5>hundred days a year of goobo go. It was like

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 5>a you know, it was like a frenetic pace where

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 5>you just didn't stop and then really enjoy stuff. And

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't until I actually got injured towards the end

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 5>of my career, which made me end up, you know,

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 5>eventually why I retired. But I went back after I

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 5>had an injury, and I went back knowing I was

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 5>going to retire, and I that was like that last

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 5>leg there was so great because I really got a

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 5>chance to be like, you know, instead of being like,

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 5>oh I got it, go on the red Like no,

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 5>it's like, oh wow, you get to go to You're

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 5>going to be in you know, Memphis, Go to Iceland,

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 5>you know you're there. Go go see where Elvis lived,

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 5>just like do things, enjoy things, and like stop and

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 5>smell the roses and like go out and like when

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 5>you're in the town, yoused be like airport's, arena's hotels

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, no about airport, Go check out

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 5>the sites, then go to the hotel. Bend your show,

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. So just enjoying the process

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 5>a lot more and just being present a lot more.

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.439
<v Speaker 5>And obviously that's something now is a mom that I'm

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, I carry over that just being it's something

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm just when I'm home. I'm home, when I'm with

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 5>mom with my kids, when my mom my mom, and

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 5>when i'm superstar superstars. So it's important.

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, you have a brand new magazine cover dropping and

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>this marks your one hundred and thirteenth cover. I mean,

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Will is just stuck at one oh four. You know

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you can't get past it because the girth.

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 4>That's well, but again, I was just going to say

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 4>girth magazine and that's going to sound.

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 5>Really odd, very very digital though maybe you could work.

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm big on the internet.

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, at you.

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a Trisha twenty five special. You helped design it

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and it details all the year's big WWE Moments just

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 1>in time for the anniversary, and you have a limited

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>number of signed copies available now at Trish Stratus dot com.

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's honestly, I look at that picture and I'm

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 5>so like, Dana, Oh that's me. She leans up, good mama.

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Like it's funny. Like I even when you want to

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 5>go back and wrestle, Like I'll wrestle and I'll be like, oh,

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 5>it was terrible. Let me see the video. I'm like

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 5>it's pretty good. Oh guys. And like when I do

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 5>those pictures, I'm like, I don't know, is it good?

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 5>And then I'm like, oh, that's really good, So you know,

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 5>it's so funny.

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I have also been noticing that with dancing every week

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 1>that like the way something feels yeah while you're doing

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it versus the way it actually looks on the outside

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:56.879
<v Speaker 1>can be two totally different things, both in a good

0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 1>way and a bad way. Sometimes you're like, Wow, I

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>nailed it. Then watch a video and you're like oh no,

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you're like, oh that was awful. And then

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you watch it and you're like, hey.

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, because somebody because you're in your head too

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 5>much right Like.

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like would you ever be interested in doing dancing

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>with the Star.

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 5>I would love to do. You know why? I love challenges. Look,

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:20.399
<v Speaker 5>I went into wrestling and I'm like, I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>throw a clothesline? Can I can I do this? And

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<v Speaker 5>now I'm a seven time champion, you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 5>I love challenge. I thrive on challenge. I'm also a

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<v Speaker 5>really bad dancer, So I'm like, it's like that, you

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<v Speaker 5>know under the journey journey thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, okay, well you dancer when you No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I had zero dance experience, but like you, I love

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<v Speaker 1>I had, I have rhythm. I'm not like completely you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like I had too much.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay you have no rhythm or and just girth all

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<v Speaker 5>right exactly.

0:51:55.520 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 1>He talks very highly of himself. I've never you self

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>hating Will, but.

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 4>I'll be honest with this entire podcast, Everybody just talking

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 4>about my girth is not going to be a bad

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 4>thing for my reputation.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be totally honest.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that like Jersey guy who has like rhythm.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so weird, so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Trish, thank you, thank you so much for being here

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<v Speaker 1>with us. It's been an absolute pleasure to interview you.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope to see you at a con again. We

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>took a picture once together. I was like, I have

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.959
<v Speaker 1>to take a picture with you because you know, yes,

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>let's beat again to wrestling. Yeah, we need we need

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to make it happen again.

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 5>Is like, this is their childhood while we are childhood fantasies,

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<v Speaker 5>which is kind of cool.

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 1>That is very cool.

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 5>And one picture, two first crushes A pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it so much so I hope to see

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<v Speaker 1>you again soon. Thank you so much for spending your

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>time with us. Congratulations on the cover and you on

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>your anniversary twenty five years.

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 5>Thank you about yours had been me. I'm excited about you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all we're all fans. Thank you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>She's truly one of the pioneers of especially women in wrestling,

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<v Speaker 1>being able to do what they're able to do now.

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean she was, she paved the way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's literally one of those people. It would be impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to be a women's a women's wrestler and to not

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<v Speaker 1>look back and say that Trish Stratus was not one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons One you thought you could do this

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and two wanted to do it and laid the foundation

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 1>for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Category almost didn't even exist.

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly right, it didn't. They were, like she said,

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they were valets. They walked the men in, they paraded

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>them around, they were involved in storylines about who was

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>sleeping with who, but like they were not doing anything physical.

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 2>It was like a battle of inches too, right, Like

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 2>she just has to get like, okay, I'm not going

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 2>to do the pillow fight. Okay, I'm not going to

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 2>do and you know if that's bigger and bigger until

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:58.359
<v Speaker 2>you're finally like, oh wow, you're a champion, Like this

0:53:58.400 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 2>is a real I.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't even want to ask what a what a gravy

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 4>boat match was because I already know.

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:04.480
<v Speaker 3>I already just know by the title.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah what this So it's mud wrestling, it's old screen

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 4>mud wrestling, Yeah, gravy Like really this is what this.

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Is what you're doing.

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 4>But the I mean, people sometimes underestimate how important it

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 4>is to be able to look at something and say

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do that. Yeah, and it's the people

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 4>nothing to look at first that are the ones that

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:26.399
<v Speaker 4>are the true pioneers where it's like, well I got

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:27.280
<v Speaker 4>to create the category.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's crazy.

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