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Speaker 1: And I said, mommy is not going to quit her job.

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Speaker 3: Computer job. That's how moral people act out.

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Speaker 3: We don't express that we miss you. We just make

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Speaker 3: That's what makes jealous, that's what makes to get there.

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Is it more opulent than when I was the UH

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Speaker 3: I got this little plaque?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Yours? Is probably better?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to bond Reads World. I'm Danielle Fischl, right or Strong.

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Speaker 1: To be considered a goat in your chosen profession is

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Speaker 1: covers to personally offend trees. Welcome to pod meets World.

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Speaker 1: The quintessential WWE diva, Canada's greatest export, the Queen of

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Speaker 1: Queen's and the best diva ever. It's Trish Stratus. Yeah, Hey, hi, Trish,

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Speaker 1: how are you? This is awesome? Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: Days, right absolutely. I just as my first question to you,

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Speaker 5: Exactly the same way. I think maybe thirty three thousand

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Speaker 5: So I was like, yeah, well I've been training for

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Speaker 5: was like there was that holt in school where they

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00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 5: saw me, you know, start training. Then I was like,

434
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 5: oh my god, I got this opportunity to be on

435
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 5: a cover, and then I was They saw me like hardcore,

436
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 5: doing the training, the eating. It's a whole discipline, right

437
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 5: that you have to endure in order to have that

438
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 5: physique and then to do that that discipline. So they

439
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 5: saw that. Then they saw the result of my hard

440
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 5: work being on covers, getting suddenly being booked, making money

441
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 5: suddenly with a job of a career. And so when

442
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 5: I kind of transitioned, it was a little bit of

443
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 5: a I'm going to give this a whirl. And they

444
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 5: were like, I mean, look, they were just they I

445
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 5: was a sports kid, I was a performance kid. So

446
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 5: when I could join my two worlds and do this

447
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 5: amazing thing, They're like, yeah, I mean, give it a shot.

448
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 5: I was twenty two years old at the time, like

449
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 5: twenty three, actually, you know, let's give it a roll.

450
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 5: So yeah, they're okay, what is.

451
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: The learning curve of going from I don't know anything

452
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 1: about wrestling to being very proficient in the ring. How

453
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: how quickly did you feel you accomplish that.

454
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 5: I was pretty crappy in the ring for a little while.

455
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: Why even in front of thousands of people, Like it

456
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 5: was like okay, yeah, no, I definitely had you know,

457
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: in the business, we call you being green. I definitely

458
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 5: had my green phase. But I'll tell you I think

459
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 5: it's really that was what allowed the audience to have

460
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 5: that special connection with me where they're like, oh, here's

461
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 5: this chick who's like some fitness chick and she's in

462
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 5: the restling world. But hey, I saw her like kind

463
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 5: of do a move that's cool, and they saw me

464
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 5: try and try. I said to myself, each week I

465
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 5: go out, I just have to like improve. I have

466
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 5: to do better than I did last week. And so

467
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 5: they literally came on this journey where they saw me

468
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 5: fall down, you know, stand up again, desk myself off,

469
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 5: and like go at it again. And they saw me

470
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 5: do really crappy matches and pretty awful moves at times,

471
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 5: but they said, but they saw the improvement. They watched it.

472
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: It was like a true underdog story. Like they literally

473
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 5: watched me go from here to there and they were

474
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 5: along for the journey. So when I eventually won the

475
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 5: Women's Championship, which I was the greenest wrestler in that match.

476
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 5: When I first and that Woman's Championship match the first time,

477
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 5: I want it and people were like, oh, I did

478
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 5: not expect that. Like it was like you can hear

479
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 5: there's a palpable crowd reaction, like, oh I did not

480
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 5: expect that, you know, not that one to it. But

481
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 5: they were happy for me, you know, and then they

482
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 5: got to see me grow into the role. So yeah,

483
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 5: there was definitely a learning curve and it was tough

484
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 5: for sure, because you know, not everyone was supportive and everything,

485
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 5: but but I do my connection with the audience was

486
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 5: definitely because of that really organic rise that I got

487
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 5: to do.

488
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: I'm so curious.

489
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: But I mean, as somebody who grew up doing sports,

490
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 4: you obviously know that there's a very big difference between

491
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 4: being hurt and being injured. And it seems to me

492
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 4: that every time I watch a wrestling match, I understand

493
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: injuries can be rare, but I'm like, how do you

494
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: not get hurt every single match?

495
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: Do you get hurt every match? Essentially?

496
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 5: You know, It's like, I know, it sounds weird. It's

497
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 5: like a calloused body in a way. So the first

498
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 5: time I went to that, I walked in. My trainer's

499
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 5: name was Ron Hutchinson. I walked in. He's like, all right,

500
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 5: hit the ropes and you're like, oh my, you think

501
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: you know you see us bouncing off the ropes. When

502
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 5: you hit the ropes for the first time, it's just like,

503
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 5: don't out, Okay, it's not there's no bounce whatsoever. And

504
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 5: people think, you know, the mac goes like it's a

505
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 5: it's not a cushion. Yeah, it has a little bit

506
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: of give, but that's so you don't biw your knees out.

507
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: But it's not a cushion, you know. And especially I trained,

508
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 5: there was a it wasn't even there wasn't a wrestling

509
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 5: right at the time, I was in boxing ring, so

510
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 5: it was even more you know, solid, but yeah, your body.

511
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 5: So at first it was just like black and blue

512
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: for weeks on end, and you're just like, okay, let's

513
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 5: go keep going, and as long as you can keep

514
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 5: them during it. It's just eventually you learn how to fall.

515
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 5: Property of course, you learn how to you know, take up.

516
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 5: It's like stunt stunts to a certain degree, right, you

517
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 5: learn to properly fall into take the fall certain way.

518
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: You know. We always say keep your neck to your chin,

519
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 5: you know, so I'm sorry, next to your chin, that's

520
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 5: that you'll be like a whole another level, you know.

521
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 5: So it's like little things like that. So you don't snap.

522
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 5: You're not getting whiplash every time you hit them.

523
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: At like that.

524
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 5: So you you know, you train and you learn and

525
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 5: you get used to it, and it's kind of like

526
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 5: a callous body sort of after a while, you don't

527
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 5: get the bruises, you hit the ropes and it's kind

528
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 5: of fine, and you know, and then don't don't get

529
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 5: it wrong because when you take a break and you

530
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 5: retire and then you go back you get the bruses again.

531
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: So that's the physical part.

532
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: But I want to hear about, like what about getting

533
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: used to being a celebrity, being a performer, having to

534
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: do interviews. Did that come naturally to you or is

535
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: that likewise a learning curve.

536
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 5: So I was very lucky that I had a little

537
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: bit of training with the fitness modeling, right, So I

538
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 5: was very quickly sort of thrust into the spotlight. I

539
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: was like, you know, like I said, I went from

540
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 5: like university student and like the most I mean was

541
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 5: I was a little bit of a you know, I

542
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 5: was a memorable player on my team, so I always

543
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 5: kind of was like in the local paper and like

544
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 5: things like that. So I would do little interviews and

545
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 5: things like that. But when I got into the fitness modeling,

546
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: it was like when I say it was a new industry,

547
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 5: like there was only like we always equate it to

548
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 5: like the supermodels back in the nineties, where there was

549
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 5: Cindy and Naomi and Evangelista. So there was like me

550
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: am badly Monica brand. There was like seven or eight

551
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 5: of US and every magazine was US, and so very

552
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: quickly they just turned this industry into a thing, right,

553
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 5: He blew it up. Suddenly there was fitness magazine. Suddenly

554
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: it was an industry, and so we were we had

555
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 5: to go. We were the ones blowing it up. We

556
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: are the ones doing the interviews. We were the ones

557
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 5: on you know what was it Access Hollywood? I think

558
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: it was back then, right, We were on the all

559
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: those shows sort of like introducing this new industry and

560
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 5: showing what fitness modeling was, and then all just doing

561
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: all these interviews. I would do interviews for the magazines

562
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 5: and things like that, and so I got those sort

563
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: of media training. So I was lucky. And I think,

564
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 5: you know, people kind of you sometimes you have it,

565
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: you have it. Some people kind of are smart, right,

566
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 5: So yeah, but I mean a different level when, of

567
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 5: course you're walking through and there are crowds and there's

568
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 5: thousands of people that you meet you at the airport,

569
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: that was definitely a different level for sure.

570
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean around the year two thousand, you become

571
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: one of the most recognizable faces in the company, and

572
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: not just for your beauty but for your in ring

573
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: talents and your personality. But looking back, so much of

574
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: that era involved these awkward, like horny storylines for men. Yes,

575
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: and you were able to push so far beyond that.

576
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Was it hard though, to get people to see you

577
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: as more than just the hot chick?

578
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it wasn't even that was

579
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 5: so it was almost like you have to like reprogram

580
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 5: the audience. They were used to chanting puppies. You know,

581
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys like who I know,

582
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 5: they don't know you are. I don't know if you

583
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: guys like back in the day, it was like women

584
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: would come out and they're like, we want puppies. That

585
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 5: is what we were like that. So we went through

586
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 5: a phase where we're like, we're gonna have wrestling match

587
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 5: and they're.

588
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: Changing and do you want to tell them what puppies is?

589
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: They don't understand.

590
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 3: I'm missing some of the puppies.

591
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: Puppies they wanted. They wanted they were.

592
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: Oh god, yes, can you imagine?

593
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 5: And it's so funny cause it's almost like, you know,

594
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 5: when you go back and watch a Disney movie like

595
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: Pinocchio and you're like, is he okay?

596
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: So my kid?

597
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: You know, so back in the day when you watch

598
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 5: that old school wrestling, you're kind of like, did your

599
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 5: loller just say yeah, he's referring to breasts. Yeah, so

600
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 5: we had to endure that. We had to like get

601
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 5: through it, you know, we had to like yeah, and

602
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 5: my well, the only way to do it was to

603
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 5: prove that you deserve to be there more than just

604
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 5: those chances you deserve to get. So I remember there's

605
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 5: a turning point. I remember we started wrestling a little

606
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: bit more so the audience was kind of like, you know,

607
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 5: learning to see us wrestle now, and there was a

608
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 5: it was Thanksgiving and so they approached us and we

609
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 5: were we felt like we're kind of starting to move

610
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: out of the the girly stuff like the cat fights

611
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 5: and the things like paddle on a pole match like

612
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: it crazy stuff that you're believe me, and back when

613
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: we do when we're doing it, we were like, I

614
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: think we have to like go through the motions fly crador,

615
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 5: but start getting some real stuff in. Like we thought,

616
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: we're gonna trade those the slaps and the hair pulls

617
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 5: for like punches and for like chops, you know what

618
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 5: I mean. And so slowly we started to do that,

619
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 5: and like we were kind of like reprogramming the audience

620
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 5: to like expect that from me, because they really weren't

621
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 5: at first and believe me, even backstage there was producers going, yeah,

622
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 5: we don't. People don't want to see women punch each other.

623
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: They want to see hair pulling, they want to see

624
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 5: cat fighting. They don't want to see that from the

625
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 5: ash like we were told that were like and it

626
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 5: was like literally like stop that, don't do that. We

627
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 5: had to like anyone looking you know what I mean.

628
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: Like why not just give you pillows and call it

629
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: a day.

630
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: Honestly, that's what they for sure wanted. I mean there

631
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: were many pillow fights.

632
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it was yeah, I mean there was I.

633
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 5: Think wrestle media. There was like I can't remember. I

634
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: think I was out there by them, but I think

635
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: it was a wrestle media because pillow fire for the women,

636
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: Like yeah, it was pretty bad for a while, but

637
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: like so we just knew it was like if we

638
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: just like keep sort of slipping it and be under

639
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: the radar. So they're like, oh, the women's match, Like,

640
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 5: don't worry, that's them. And for a while we were

641
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: the popcorn match. We're the bathroom break. We were that

642
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: until we started to just deliver and then when we

643
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: went out there and I think the turning point was

644
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: like you know a woman, her name is Jazz. It

645
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: was Jazz Victoria. These are women that I worked with,

646
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: and we were like, we need to change the narrative.

647
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 5: We need to change the conversation, you know, and change

648
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 5: the you know, what they expect from us in the ring.

649
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: They expect us to just be hot. So like I

650
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: even know, there was a point where I was dressing

651
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 5: I was dressing down. I wasn't like wearing what they

652
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 5: wanted to wear. I was like, don't notice what I'm wearing.

653
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 5: I didn't wear shorts. I was like, I'm putting on

654
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: full brigade wrestle, you know. And I was like. Then

655
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: we had a guy, an agent who was working with

656
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: his backstage and he was like, I want to see

657
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: you guys punch as well. And he goes, just just

658
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 5: do it, just go do it like what you can

659
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: ask for forgiveness and permission at that point, right, So

660
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 5: we just started to go do it, and like slowly

661
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 5: but surely that we want puppies. Chance turned into I remember,

662
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 5: so this gravy bul mat. There was a thanksgiving we

663
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: had it. We we thought we were getting out of

664
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 5: this you know, crappy little pillow fights and things like that.

665
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: But they're like, Okay, we're gonna have a Gravy Bowl match.

666
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: And we're like, oh, we thought we were passes. Okay,

667
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 5: but you have to do it. It's your job, right,

668
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, we're gonna have a Gravya Bull match.

669
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start it really cool. So we come out

670
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 5: on the stage the time they used to be the

671
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: ramps to be really high back in the day, and

672
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 5: so we had the top and I had Stacey just

673
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: like she tossed me right off the top and I

674
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 5: took a big bump from the top right and the

675
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: fans were like holy and when we have a whole

676
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: so you know, like that, we're just kind of slipping

677
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: in the cool and the good action. And after a

678
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: while they just started to become programmed to see us

679
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: like that, and you know, started to come around, and

680
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 5: the puppies chance went away, and the and the cheering

681
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 5: for us and matches and false pan for our false

682
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: finishes started to happen, and it was like We're like,

683
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 5: we're doing it, like we were really doing it. So

684
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: it's pretty cool.

685
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite things I think about when

686
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: when Danielle like brought us into this world. I love

687
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: the kind of micro worlds where there's a whole language,

688
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: there's an entire culture, there's a whole the music all

689
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: means something. I mean, every there there'd be one note

690
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: that would bang out and everyone would go nuts, and

691
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: I turned to Gensen or Danielle'll be like, Okay, what's happening, Like,

692
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: all right, here's what's going on. So, I mean, it's

693
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: really cool to see that there is an entire culture

694
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: based around this. Uh and the idea that you were

695
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: kind of there at the beginning for the women's side

696
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: of it is pretty spectacular because I again, I've only

697
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: seen two matches, but especially in the.

698
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: First one in preparation for the interview.

699
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: Of course you saw mine, right, of course, of course,

700
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: no I met live. I've only seen two matches.

701
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: Live, and it was I watched many oh many.

702
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: Tons, yes, but the smacked out.

703
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I said to Danielle, I thought that the

704
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: women were frankly better than the guys. I mean, they

705
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: just they were at the time. It seemed there was

706
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: more athleticism at the time, and what I said was

707
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: like there was just more exciting. So going in as

708
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: a neophyte. I was like, these are just kind of

709
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: more exciting matches. Frankly, so, yeah, but it is there

710
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: that whole world. Getting into a whole new culture is

711
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: such a cool kind of experience.

712
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I feel like the same like with the

713
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 5: with them, you know, everyone's like, how what's your what

714
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 5: do you attribute your success to? You? And I have

715
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 5: many things that I do attribute my success to. But

716
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 5: I was very lucky that I did come into these

717
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 5: at the beginning of these you know, the beginning of

718
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 5: these industries, right, Like fitness one was very new, so

719
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: I got to like explore before it became oversaturated, and

720
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: say with wrestling, because before you know, it became like it,

721
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: I just kind of gotten a chance to like get

722
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: it to a point where it was like it was

723
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 5: talked about and it was becoming mainstream and people were

724
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 5: now demanding women's matches and we're getting equal time as

725
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 5: the men and things like that. So it was cool

726
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: to be a part of that sort of beginnings of things.

727
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: One other thing that really maybe sets you apart from

728
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: some of the other female wrestlers at the time was

729
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: that you never posed for Playboy, which was almost like

730
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: a guarantee if you were a female wrestler at the time,

731
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: what made you make that decision and did you ever

732
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: second guess yourself?

733
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 5: No, Oh, my gosh, I it just it's just not

734
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: for me. When I I'm like a tomboy, Like even

735
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 5: though I'm known, I am known as a sex symbol.

736
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 5: I suppose I heard that. Yeah, it was like, not me.

737
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: It is my character you know here, you know, But

738
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 5: I mean I pull it off, you know, but if

739
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 5: I need to. But yeah, I know, it was not

740
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: even an option. Like I was like, oh, that is

741
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 5: just not me. Even when I had to do the

742
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: pillow fights and I actually I didn't have a pillow

743
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: fight one, but I had to do lu Ray stuff.

744
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 5: It was just it wasn't me. It felt it was

745
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: very put on. Even one time they had these annual magazines.

746
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 5: It was called the Divas magazines. It was like star

747
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 5: swimsy illustrated magazine where we'd go down to some exotic

748
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: location shoot that well. I don't know if those budget

749
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 5: cuts or whatever it was, or maybe like you said,

750
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 5: the horny writers or storylines, but suddenly instead of the

751
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: annual bikini issue, they wanted a lingerie issue. And I

752
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: was like, oh, like I didn't want to do it,

753
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: and I just like it felt so silly to me,

754
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: so like I made this like whole look it was

755
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: like sports like it was like sports lingerie where I

756
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 5: did like you know, I like I like did the

757
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: socks and like made it, you know what I mean.

758
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 5: I made it like athletics sexy, like I just said,

759
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 5: I just I don't know, so the sexy thing did comfort.

760
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 5: So when Playwood came on, I was like absolutely not interested. Vince,

761
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 5: Oh my god, how did me like like crazy, Like

762
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 5: He's like, it's great opportunity. And I was shown also

763
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 5: during that time that but look at the opportunity if

764
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 5: you turned this down. So we're going to give your

765
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: opportunities to her. So and I'm like, no, I still

766
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: don't want to do it, thank you. And it came

767
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: to me for years and years and I just was

768
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: like no, and I do not regret it and never.

769
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: It's just it's just not my thing. And now, my god,

770
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 5: now that a kids and everything, like I couldn't even imagine,

771
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 5: to be honest, So I know that is my decision

772
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: to stand by it.

773
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Wow, was there ever a storyline you remember?

774
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Uh?

775
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: Just flat out saying no, too.

776
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, lots lots of them.

777
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

778
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 5: I had this. I understood that if you were to

779
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: say no, it was like say no, but so like

780
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 5: I'd be like, I'm not doing that, but how about

781
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 5: we you know, I wanted to make sure I can

782
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 5: get there, but let's do it this way, you know.

783
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: So I most I got away with a lot of

784
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 5: stuff if I didn't want to do it, I said

785
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 5: no to it and got away with like my suggestion

786
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 5: or alternative way of approaching the same sort of outcome.

787
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: But there was one time that I flat it said

788
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: no it would involve me kissing another girl, and I

789
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: was like, I don't understand why you would no. I

790
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 5: don't know just how.

791
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: Does this play into how does this play into my

792
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: rest of the story.

793
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: I don't think my character would do that or myself.

794
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, I didn't do that, But then I was

795
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 5: I got stripped about right away, like literally was shown

796
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 5: that this was you were being punished for your decision,

797
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 5: like it was crazy. There was some crazy scenarios where

798
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 5: you yeah, they were you know. Anyway, I was told

799
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: like you're like, I was like, oh is this happening,

800
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: because yep, it sure is. And I was like, all right,

801
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 5: so they didn't even try it.

802
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: They didn't even try to hide it. They didn't even

803
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: try it.

804
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 5: They were but they would be people. There's so many

805
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 5: people backstages, all these producers, there's writers, there's you know,

806
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 5: and it kind of like I was like, is this

807
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: happening because yeah, oh okay, well that's okay. I still

808
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: stand by my decision, you know, you know, yeah, I mean, look,

809
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 5: eventually waited up at WrestleMania and Toronto, so they need

810
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: to be back to promote it.

811
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: So you know, we have talked about it so much

812
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: on this show that like from the time you're a kid,

813
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: if depending on whenever you start, you learn very quickly

814
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: that being a team player means doing whatever is asked

815
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: of you, no matter what the cost to your personal

816
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: life is or what the cost is to anything. That

817
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: if you have any sort of boundaries, there will usually

818
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: be some negative repercussion for it. And yeah, I mean

819
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not definitely not surprised.

820
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: It's super interesting though, because what I'm hearing from from

821
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 4: Trish and from things we heard growing up and stuff

822
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 4: like that is it's usually always put to you as

823
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: if you realize how good this would be for you?

824
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 3: Correct? Ye, Like this is for you. I'm really doing

825
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: this for you.

826
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: And it's like, if you want to turn down that opportunity,

827
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: you're just shooting yourself in the foot because exactly this

828
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: is great for you, and it seems like that's kind

829
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: of the way to go about it.

830
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: Like no, I'm I'm good, Thanks.

831
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I missed this opportunity.

832
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: I suppose yeah, I get yeah, exactly, yeah.

833
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

834
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Who do you think is the most underrated wrestler you've

835
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: worked with? Male or female?

836
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 5: Oh? Wow, uh, probably Natty Nightheart. I mean I feel

837
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 5: like she's getting her her flowers now and but I

838
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 5: mean I mean almost maybe not. I think if you

839
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: look at her Instagram, like danm this girl's busy. So

840
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: Nanny has been with this company for so long, I

841
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 5: mean obviously born and bred to be in this business.

842
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 5: She's she's elevated and helped so many people. She's had

843
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 5: she's been the reason many people have had their best match.

844
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: You know, she's contributed, she's given back, but she's never

845
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 5: ever she's kind of like the bridesmaid always, you know

846
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: what I mean. And she's happy, you know, she's one,

847
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: she's been Woman's Champion, She's had her she's been she's

848
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 5: had her moments for sure. But like even in the

849
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 5: last little while, like it's really cool if you guys

850
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 5: follow her, like if you go to her Instagram, like

851
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 5: she kind of was like, I'm gonna go do my

852
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 5: own thing, and she started like creating this new character

853
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 5: that was like this bad like like one of those

854
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 5: like underground fighting chicks because she can't and it was cool.

855
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: Like so people are really resonant, and I'm like, I'm

856
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: waiting for like WWB, Like, oh that is cool. That's

857
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: resoning with people and it's real and authentic. And then

858
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: bring it to WI and I hope they don't, you know,

859
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 5: tarnish it by bringing it to like you know, sometimes

860
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: the commercialize things and make it too shorty, you know,

861
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: when she is like this raw thing she's doing and

862
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 5: you know, she's just released a book right now, and

863
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: so she's she's everwearen and it's just it's great to

864
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: see she's finally kind of getting out there. But I

865
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 5: would say like in the last little while, she hasn't

866
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 5: been the highlight with storylines and things like that, you

867
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Yeah, but she has been the helper,

868
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 5: you know, the accessory and like, you know, people helping

869
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: the talent, which she's happy to do and she loves that.

870
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: She actually loves that as well. But she's amazing and

871
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 5: uh man, her and I we were like two Canadians

872
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 5: going at it. I mean, it's it would.

873
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: Be no wait not to put you on the spot,

874
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: but would you answer the opposite question, who's the most

875
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 4: overrated wrestler?

876
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 5: Oh? Oh gosh, that's that's don't have to be mean

877
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 5: to some I think no, I know.

878
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying, you don't have to answer. I'm

879
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: just curious, just curious.

880
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 5: Me. I think people talking about me waiting. You know,

881
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, she's still here, she's doing it for

882
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: twenty five years and she's still amazing.

883
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: Like, oh me, But it would be it would be

884
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: nearly impossible to be a wrestler man or woman and

885
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: not have found inspiration in you. I mean, dozens of

886
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: superstars in twenty twenty five list you as a major inspiration.

887
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: What is your biggest piece of advice for longevity in

888
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: this industry for some of the young up and coming Allan, I.

889
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: Think I always go so my new thing has been

890
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 5: that this is just a quirky one. But I've always

891
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: so now when people say like because now I'm still

892
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 5: I mean I literally this was my twenty fifth anniversary

893
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: this year and I read and we you know, I looked,

894
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: I actually have this magazine coming out and they were

895
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: just putting me on the cover and they're like, once

896
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 5: I did the interview, They're like, way, this is a wait.

897
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 5: We didn't realize, Like it's twenty five years and you

898
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: still had three matches this year. Like that's insane, right,

899
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 5: So they turn this issue now they're like celebrating the

900
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: twenty five years and so then so the thing is

901
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 5: when people are like, how are you still doing it?

902
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 5: Like even you know, talk to someone like Naomi who

903
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 5: just at Trinity, who you know, has just left. She

904
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 5: was a woman's champion, finally got to the very very

905
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: top of the you know, I mean, you know she

906
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 5: she's been amazing and contributed so much and she's finally

907
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 5: got the women's championship and then she's going to go

908
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 5: have a baby, right so she you know, which is yay, amazing.

909
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 5: So we got a chat, like, you know, I hope

910
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 5: she's okay. I'm me telling this story. But we had

911
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: a talk chat, you know, just literally months before that

912
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: when I was back on the road, and she was like, dude,

913
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 5: like it's so cool that, like, you know, showing that

914
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 5: like I went out, I went, I had my career, right,

915
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 5: So two thousand, two thousand and six had my career

916
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 5: top of the line, left on top, left as champion,

917
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 5: great went started, businesses, started, my family, lived life, travel,

918
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: didn't wasn't bound to like three hundred days of the

919
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 5: year schedule that this. You know, it's a crazy world.

920
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 5: It's a crazy schedule. It's not fun. I mean it's fun,

921
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: but you cannot like I missed a lot of my

922
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: friend's weddings, babies been born, et cetera. Right, so I

923
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 5: got to live my life and then lucky me, I

924
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 5: got to go back. But like that's the cool thing.

925
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: It used to be like a shelf life for the women.

926
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 5: Now women are actually having their babies and then bring

927
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 5: them on the road and then going and wrestling. You know.

928
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 5: So Trinity was like, that's so cool. I love that.

929
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 5: Like I'm like, you go have your babies, you there's

930
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 5: always room to come back, like at this day and age.

931
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: But so my point is I digress. So my number

932
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: one thing is do yoga. Okay, you know, but if

933
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 5: you want to be in the business for a long time,

934
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 5: if you don't want injuries. I have been in this

935
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: business for twenty five years and I barely know touch

936
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: would but the injuries have been I know not. I

937
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: haven't been had too many injuries that have sidelined. So

938
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 5: yoga's number one. But I always tell people just find

939
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 5: and stay as authentic as you can find that character.

940
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 5: Of course, like, yes, it's over the top, it's it's

941
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 5: very character driven. But when you find that that character

942
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 5: that like is is you know, rings true with you

943
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 5: because the fans, there's something about the fans, no, there's

944
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: that when there's that authenticity to the character, it resonates

945
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 5: with the fans. They can feel it when when they

946
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: when somebody's coming from the heart, even if it's you know,

947
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: amplified twenty five times, because we are characters and we're

948
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: cricatures of ourselves out there. That's when people really feel it.

949
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 5: And that's when people say there's a little Jenna sa

950
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 5: Qua about it. There's like, I don't know what it

951
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 5: is about the person, it's because it's coming from a

952
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 5: true place. And that's often with actors too, like, you know,

953
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: how do they pull that roll off? And then you

954
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 5: hear about the story of like I drew from this,

955
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: you know. So when when your character out there is

956
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 5: drawing from a true place, it really really works. And

957
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 5: I think that is what I mean. The novelty characters

958
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 5: absolutely work as well, but not as not as much

959
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: as the long term, right, Like the longevity of your

960
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: personality and your person in the ring definitely true and

961
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 5: a dick it goes the longest for sure.

962
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: That's so great. I love that advice about yoga. I'm like, man, oh,

963
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: you need to be not everyone.

964
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: Like we should all have everybody. I don't know how

965
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 5: old you guys, but I'm old, and yoga I'm keep

966
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: it is keeping me young. I'm telling you, like it's

967
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: I went back and wrestled. I remember the first match.

968
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 5: I was like, like, okay, So twenty twenty three, I

969
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 5: went back and wrestled for six months straight, did like.

970
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: It ended up being a six month run which again

971
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 5: had a wrestled in you know, one hundred years, and

972
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 5: I had a cage match, which back in my day

973
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 5: unheard of. Right, we don't we didn't. It wasn't an

974
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: option for the girls. That's what the boys did. You

975
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 5: guys can have a match, sure, but cool stuff and

976
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: like the extreme stuff. I mean women would you would.

977
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: Die surely if you had a cad of course you

978
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: could never do it. Yeah, right, And so I had.

979
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 5: A cage match. I was. It was through. It was

980
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 5: like a bucket list because I know it sounds weird.

981
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: I want to be tossed into like a metal uh

982
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 5: you know, fence. But it was a time to come

983
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: up and do one. Me and Danielle should have a

984
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 5: cage match, but like maybe as teammate anyway. But I

985
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: had the match. The next day, I woke up and

986
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: I thought, oh my god, and I was like, okay,

987
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: I feel okay, you know, like I it's the yoga,

988
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 5: like the pliability of your body and all that.

989
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: So I must need a better I must need a

990
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: better yoga instructor, because every time I've tried yoga, it's

991
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: just a very clever way of hiding fifty push ups.

992
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: That's what it's like. Do down our dog again. Just

993
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: tell me to do a push up. Just tell me

994
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: to do a push up. That's all you need to

995
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: tell me.

996
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: Then you week biceps, so work on that and then class.

997
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: Well, no, my tri SEPs are are weak, but then again,

998
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: so is the rest of.

999
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: My body or why? But that that leads me to

1000
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: a question, though, I have a question.

1001
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: So have you had to tailor your performance the older

1002
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: you get? I mean, can you do all the moves

1003
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: now that you were able to do twenty five years ago?

1004
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: So the crazy thing is is I can. So the

1005
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: first one I got called back was okay, so just

1006
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 5: fro the perspective. Two thousand and six is when I retired, okay,

1007
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 5: which is so long ago. And then twenty eighteen was

1008
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 5: the first time like they call me and they're like,

1009
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 5: we're doing an all women's roller rumble and it's the

1010
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: first ever, and we would love you to come back

1011
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 5: and be in it. And I was like, oh, well,

1012
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 5: it's been like eleven whatever the math is eleven years

1013
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: and I have birth two children. I was like, I

1014
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 5: don't think and I was like, I'm just gonna pull

1015
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: this off, Like I'm just going to be very minimal things.

1016
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 5: I'll do my greatest hits, you know, I'll do that

1017
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 5: one thing that I point and I do the thing

1018
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 5: and I practice those four moves. I did it. Who

1019
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: I did it? But then I was like, I kind

1020
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 5: of did it though, and it was like kind of

1021
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: like riding a bike actually. So then I went back

1022
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 5: had another match twenty eighteen, and then twenty three I

1023
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 5: went back into like a six month's run, and my

1024
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 5: body was like, yeah, this is fine. And then now

1025
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 5: I like to go back. I love to be like,

1026
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 5: let me do something that no one's seeing me do before.

1027
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: So now because my body can, I'm trying things that

1028
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: I have never done before, and I'm presenting a whole

1029
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 5: different repertoire, a whole new move set nowadays. And it's

1030
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 5: been fun to do that actually, because I like shocking

1031
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: the pep. I just I did a moon salt for

1032
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 5: the first time in my entire life. I don't know

1033
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 5: if you know what that is even, but it's just

1034
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 5: move that my rival had done, and I always took

1035
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 5: moon salts my whole life. It's a it's a move

1036
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 5: from the top rope and you go backwards, and she

1037
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: would always give it to me. It was like Lyda

1038
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 5: was my rival, which is my best die and my rival,

1039
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 5: and she would just That's how I died, every move,

1040
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 5: every match, and so I was like, I want to

1041
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 5: do it as like an homage to her, plus the

1042
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 5: partner that they're the person that I worked with did

1043
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 5: a moon salt, So I was doing it as like

1044
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: I know you kind of with the psychology. There was

1045
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 5: I know your moves. I'm going to try your move

1046
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 5: on you. And I hit my first moon salt in

1047
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 5: my entire life, and it was super fun and the

1048
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: fans were like, what the did she just do a

1049
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 5: moon salt? And so that was fun to just do

1050
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: things and I like those what the moments? Those are fun?

1051
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: Man.

1052
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: If you could go back in time and tell that

1053
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: med school student but eventual international superstar one thing, what

1054
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: would you tell her?

1055
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 5: Oh? Okay, I think there's two things. I have to

1056
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 5: always say two things, because one is stay true to

1057
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 5: yourself always, and it's things like saying no to play Boy,

1058
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 5: being like just who you are, I'm being authentic like

1059
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 5: all that is so important and we'll give you the

1060
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: longevity you need for sure. Also is enjoy the moment,

1061
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 5: be in the moment, smell stop and smell the roses

1062
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 5: like that whole theory, because you know, I'm lucky that

1063
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 5: I got to go back and then see it from

1064
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 5: a different perspective. But back when I was you know,

1065
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: twenty to twenty four years old and you know, in it,

1066
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 5: I didn't I wasn't like realizing that, oh my god,

1067
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 5: I got to travel the world. I went to like

1068
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 5: I've been to every single state I've been to, all

1069
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 5: these countries, performed in front of you know, thousands and thousands.

1070
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 5: But I was in this like crazy, you know, three

1071
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 5: hundred days a year of goobo go. It was like

1072
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 5: a you know, it was like a frenetic pace where

1073
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 5: you just didn't stop and then really enjoy stuff. And

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00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: it wasn't until I actually got injured towards the end

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00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 5: of my career, which made me end up, you know,

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00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: eventually why I retired. But I went back after I

1077
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 5: had an injury, and I went back knowing I was

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00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 5: going to retire, and I that was like that last

1079
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: leg there was so great because I really got a

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00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 5: chance to be like, you know, instead of being like,

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00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 5: oh I got it, go on the red Like no,

1082
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 5: it's like, oh wow, you get to go to You're

1083
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: going to be in you know, Memphis, Go to Iceland,

1084
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 5: you know you're there. Go go see where Elvis lived,

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00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 5: just like do things, enjoy things, and like stop and

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00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 5: smell the roses and like go out and like when

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00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 5: you're in the town, yoused be like airport's, arena's hotels

1088
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 5: and I was like, no about airport, Go check out

1089
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: the sites, then go to the hotel. Bend your show,

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00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So just enjoying the process

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00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 5: a lot more and just being present a lot more.

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00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 5: And obviously that's something now is a mom that I'm

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00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: you know, I carry over that just being it's something

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00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 5: I'm just when I'm home. I'm home, when I'm with

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00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 5: mom with my kids, when my mom my mom, and

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00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: when i'm superstar superstars. So it's important.

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00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, you have a brand new magazine cover dropping and

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00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: this marks your one hundred and thirteenth cover. I mean,

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00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: Will is just stuck at one oh four. You know

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00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: you can't get past it because the girth.

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00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: That's well, but again, I was just going to say

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00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 4: girth magazine and that's going to sound.

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00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 5: Really odd, very very digital though maybe you could work.

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00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm big on the internet.

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00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, at you.

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00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: Wow.

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00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: It's a Trisha twenty five special. You helped design it

1108
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: and it details all the year's big WWE Moments just

1109
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: in time for the anniversary, and you have a limited

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00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: number of signed copies available now at Trish Stratus dot com.

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00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's honestly, I look at that picture and I'm

1112
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: so like, Dana, Oh that's me. She leans up, good mama.

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00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 5: Like it's funny. Like I even when you want to

1114
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 5: go back and wrestle, Like I'll wrestle and I'll be like, oh,

1115
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: it was terrible. Let me see the video. I'm like

1116
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 5: it's pretty good. Oh guys. And like when I do

1117
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 5: those pictures, I'm like, I don't know, is it good?

1118
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: And then I'm like, oh, that's really good, So you know,

1119
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 5: it's so funny.

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Speaker 1: I have also been noticing that with dancing every week

1121
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: that like the way something feels yeah while you're doing

1122
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: it versus the way it actually looks on the outside

1123
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: can be two totally different things, both in a good

1124
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: way and a bad way. Sometimes you're like, Wow, I

1125
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: nailed it. Then watch a video and you're like oh no,

1126
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: And sometimes you're like, oh that was awful. And then

1127
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: you watch it and you're like, hey.

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00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, because somebody because you're in your head too

1129
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: much right Like.

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00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: It's like would you ever be interested in doing dancing

1131
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: with the Star.

1132
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 5: I would love to do. You know why? I love challenges. Look,

1133
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 5: I went into wrestling and I'm like, I know, I'm

1134
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 5: throw a clothesline? Can I can I do this? And

1135
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 5: now I'm a seven time champion, you know what I mean? Like,

1136
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 5: I love challenge. I thrive on challenge. I'm also a

1137
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 5: really bad dancer, So I'm like, it's like that, you

1138
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 5: know under the journey journey thing.

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00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, okay, well you dancer when you No, no, no,

1140
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: not at all.

1141
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 5: No.

1142
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: I had zero dance experience, but like you, I love

1143
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: I had, I have rhythm. I'm not like completely you know,

1144
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: it's not like I had too much.

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00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: Okay you have no rhythm or and just girth all

1146
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 5: right exactly.

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00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: He talks very highly of himself. I've never you self

1148
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: hating Will, but.

1149
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Speaker 4: I'll be honest with this entire podcast, Everybody just talking

1150
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: about my girth is not going to be a bad

1151
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: thing for my reputation.

1152
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: Let's be totally honest.

1153
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 5: You know that like Jersey guy who has like rhythm.

1154
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: It's so weird, so weird.

1155
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: Trish, thank you, thank you so much for being here

1156
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: with us. It's been an absolute pleasure to interview you.

1157
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: I hope to see you at a con again. We

1158
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: took a picture once together. I was like, I have

1159
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 1: to take a picture with you because you know, yes,

1160
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: let's beat again to wrestling. Yeah, we need we need

1161
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: to make it happen again.

1162
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: Is like, this is their childhood while we are childhood fantasies,

1163
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 5: which is kind of cool.

1164
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: That is very cool.

1165
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 5: And one picture, two first crushes A pictures.

1166
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: I love it so much so I hope to see

1167
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: you again soon. Thank you so much for spending your

1168
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: time with us. Congratulations on the cover and you on

1169
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: your anniversary twenty five years.

1170
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 5: Thank you about yours had been me. I'm excited about you.

1171
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: We're all we're all fans. Thank you again.

1172
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: Bye.

1173
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: She's truly one of the pioneers of especially women in wrestling,

1174
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: being able to do what they're able to do now.

1175
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean she was, she paved the way. I mean,

1176
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: she's literally one of those people. It would be impossible

1177
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: to be a women's a women's wrestler and to not

1178
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: look back and say that Trish Stratus was not one

1179
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: of the reasons One you thought you could do this

1180
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: and two wanted to do it and laid the foundation

1181
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: for her.

1182
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: Category almost didn't even exist.

1183
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: It's exactly right, it didn't. They were, like she said,

1184
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: they were valets. They walked the men in, they paraded

1185
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: them around, they were involved in storylines about who was

1186
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: sleeping with who, but like they were not doing anything physical.

1187
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: It was like a battle of inches too, right, Like

1188
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: she just has to get like, okay, I'm not going

1189
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: to do the pillow fight. Okay, I'm not going to

1190
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: do and you know if that's bigger and bigger until

1191
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: you're finally like, oh wow, you're a champion, Like this

1192
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: is a real I.

1193
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: Didn't even want to ask what a what a gravy

1194
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 4: boat match was because I already know.

1195
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: I already just know by the title.

1196
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah what this So it's mud wrestling, it's old screen

1197
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: mud wrestling, Yeah, gravy Like really this is what this.

1198
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: Is what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: But the I mean, people sometimes underestimate how important it

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00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: is to be able to look at something and say

1201
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: I want to do that. Yeah, and it's the people

1202
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: nothing to look at first that are the ones that

1203
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 4: are the true pioneers where it's like, well I got

1204
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 4: to create the category.

1205
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean that's crazy.

1206
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you all for listening to this

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