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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Hotel on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com, the Giants Mobile, the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the newest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. John

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Speaker 1: Schmulk with you today, an NFC East Division roundtable as

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Speaker 1: we preview the division with three gentlemen that cover each

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Speaker 1: one of the teams in the NFC East. But first

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Speaker 1: or reminder, you can find the Johnt Subtle Podcast on

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Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms at Giants dot com, Slash podcast,

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Speaker 1: and on the Giants Mobile app. All right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: our second NFC East round Table. We did one prior

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Speaker 1: to the draft. Now we're gonna do one the preview

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Speaker 1: one season. I am John Schmulk representing the New York Giants,

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Speaker 1: were joined by Fran Duffy representing the Philadelphia Eagles. You

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Speaker 1: can find him on the Eagle Eye in the Sky

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Speaker 1: podcast and the Journey to the Draft podcast. Your Zack

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Speaker 1: Selby Pinch hitting for Julie Donaldson today. He's a staff

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Speaker 1: writer for the Washington football team. And then of course

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Speaker 1: Dave Hellman you can find them on Dallas Cowboys dot com,

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Speaker 1: is the staff writer. Also, Dave Lenithan had this right

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show podcast and the Break podcast. Is that correct? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for all. I mean, I know we're all draft nerds.

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Speaker 1: Draft Show will be back when the season is over.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you can find me on Cowboys Break pretty

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Speaker 1: much every day now that we're in regular season mode. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it is regular season mode, guys. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: post up in a little bit more than a week away.

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Speaker 1: So I guess let's start here and I'll do a

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Speaker 1: little roulette wheel. Let's start with the new guy, Zach.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. The biggest thing you're thinking about heading

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Speaker 1: and for you top of mind, the biggest thing, well,

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Speaker 1: I have to go with the fact that there's only

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's obviously gonna be really really good. Again, you

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Speaker 1: it's funny I brought this up on our most recent podcast.

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Speaker 1: sick for the second game, did not play in the third.

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Speaker 1: So just kind of watching how he's been able to

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Speaker 1: develop over the course of practice, He's made some big

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Speaker 1: time throws. Like you guys, we had a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks of joint practice against other teams. I thought when

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Speaker 1: the Patriots came to town, and then when the team

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Speaker 1: went up to play the New York Jets, I thought

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Speaker 1: that Jalen Hurts was the best quarterback on the field

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Speaker 1: and both all four of those practices, And so I

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Speaker 1: think that that's a really good sign for his development.

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Speaker 1: But he's got to carry it over the games, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to be the big task for him once

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Speaker 1: we get to week one of a huge test against

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Speaker 1: and Atlanta defense that schematically is going to be a

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Speaker 1: huge challenge with demps. Yeah, I'd say, all right, hey,

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Speaker 1: Giant fans, don't miss out on the return of New

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Speaker 1: York Giants football season is now in their way, but

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Speaker 1: there are still time to secure your season tickets and

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Speaker 1: root on your Giants. Here MetLife Stadium. Speak with the

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Speaker 1: Giants ticket representative now and become a season ticket member

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Speaker 1: by calling eight n YG. Let's go to the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, and I think we have to

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Speaker 1: let I lead this off given I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to speak for you guys, but probably best personnel

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Speaker 1: defensive wise in the division. I think speak for me.

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Speaker 1: Please all right, Zach, tell us all about your defensive

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Speaker 1: line that can't be blocked in what I will see?

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Speaker 1: Have you going on over there? Well? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: the dava the line is, like you said, it's one

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Speaker 1: of the best in football. There's no way to not

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Speaker 1: when you have four first rounders out there. It's that's

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Speaker 1: the way it's gonna be, right. Chase Young has um

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Speaker 1: and he looks probed to have an even better season

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Speaker 1: than last year. And surprising that maybe because he's worked

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Speaker 1: on a lot of little things. He's his play recognition

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Speaker 1: has gotten better, he's more comfortable, he's working on his

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Speaker 1: handwork and his feet work. It's all really done. I mean,

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Speaker 1: ask Cam Newton how that felt to have Chase Young

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Speaker 1: on your back for the first preseason game. Will tell

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Speaker 1: you how how impressed he was. Um. But you know

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Speaker 1: the thing, the biggest, the biggest change that has come

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Speaker 1: for me obviously is in the secondary. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have kinda fuller out there, But then you also

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Speaker 1: bring William Jackson, one of the better man coverage corners

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Speaker 1: that was available this past year in free agency. You

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Speaker 1: also have bid him in St. Jude The guy in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota and he's about six ft uh six ft two

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Speaker 1: and two hundred pounds, which I mean, that's not very

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Speaker 1: common to have a corner that big and long. But

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Speaker 1: he's very physical the line of scrimmage and he um

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Speaker 1: he had to play in O T A s against

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin where he knocked the ball away and kind

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Speaker 1: of gave him a little bit of a stair down

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Speaker 1: because how yeah, I mean, that's a rookie going against

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the better better receivers in the

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Speaker 1: division there. He just went toe to toe with him.

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Speaker 1: And I mean Cam Curl obviously come on coming onto

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Speaker 1: the seventh round pick last year and really being a

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Speaker 1: surprise guy in that secondary has he looks it looks

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Speaker 1: like he's burstle as ever Um and Bobby McCain. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of new guys in there, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you're all you gotta wonder, like we're all,

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Speaker 1: we're all these guys are gonna play and honestly, Cordon

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Speaker 1: Chris Harris like it doesn't really matter because they're all

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Speaker 1: able to do a little bit of everything. So that

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Speaker 1: creates some versatility on their end. To say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you need Cam Croton play in the Buffalo Nipples spot,

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Speaker 1: we got you. You You need Bobby Bucane to play out

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Speaker 1: there in corner. He did that in Miami. He did

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Speaker 1: really really well at it. So it's if you can

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Speaker 1: pick pick whatever you want. The secondary is going to

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Speaker 1: be even more challenging than last year. You know, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I joked with him about the defensive line for Washington

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Speaker 1: Cowboys defense has a goal against some pretty good skill

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Speaker 1: position guys on the Cowboys offense outside. How is that

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Speaker 1: looked to practice for the defense? Do you see a

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Speaker 1: noticeable difference with dan Quinn and what he's trying to do?

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Speaker 1: And how much different is what dan Quinn is trying

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Speaker 1: to do based on what we all know what he

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Speaker 1: you know, his background in Seattle with the Cover three

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. You gotta be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in its own way, the Cowboys defense is

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Speaker 1: is pretty fascinating because depending on how you want to

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Speaker 1: look at it and what your attitude is, like, I

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Speaker 1: can give you half a dozen reasons why they're probably

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Speaker 1: not very good, and I can give you half a

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Speaker 1: dozen reasons why they're worth getting pretty excited about. And

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Speaker 1: I think that and quinns honestly a big part of that.

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Speaker 1: You know, he gets he gets and rightfully so. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's the tree that he comes from, but he

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Speaker 1: gets linked to the cover three. You know, the Seattle

519
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Speaker 1: blueprints so much, and there's an element of that, but honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's way more multiple I was expecting, and and to

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Speaker 1: a degree that I've never really seen before. Um in

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Speaker 1: terms of you know, I think we're all used to

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Speaker 1: defensive line rotations. That's not anything new, but the way

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Speaker 1: that Dan has been rotating his personnel everywhere during this

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Speaker 1: training camp is crazy. I mean, you know, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: obviously have four or five talented linebackers and they're all playing,

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Speaker 1: They're all doing a variety of things. You know, we

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Speaker 1: talked about Micah Parsons when we did this uh draft

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Speaker 1: round table back during the spring. I remember we said

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Speaker 1: at the time, if if Michael Parsons is worth drafting

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Speaker 1: that high, you gotta get a lot out of him.

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Speaker 1: And Dan Quinn clearly agrees with us, because the guy

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Speaker 1: is doing everything. Uh. He plays mike linebacker, he plays

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Speaker 1: off the edge. They put him out as a designated

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Speaker 1: pass rusher in three four looks, they drop him in

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Speaker 1: coverage when they do some of that cover three stuff.

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Speaker 1: Um he is a I mean, again, it's preseason. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to overreact, but he absolutely looks like a

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Speaker 1: playmaker and and they kind of they tailor their defense

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Speaker 1: almost to fit him, which is really impressive. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, they focused a lot on versatility in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: You know, they signed these big body defensive linemen who

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Speaker 1: can play tackle and in depending on the front that

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Speaker 1: they want to show. Um So, I I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of looks where they try to

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Speaker 1: get Mike out on the edge, but then they can

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Speaker 1: go smaller. Um really fascinating kid. Ohso, Diggi Zooa is

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Speaker 1: the top one draft pick in the third round and

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Speaker 1: injury to Neville Gallimore is going to give him a shot,

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Speaker 1: uh to be the starting three technique. And he has

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Speaker 1: shown in these preseason games that he can create a

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Speaker 1: lot of havoc in there when you give him a chance.

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Speaker 1: And that's without even having seen him work with DeMarcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: who kind of you know, he had a vet training camp.

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Speaker 1: He just didn't do a whole lot. He'll be ready

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Speaker 1: for the start of the season. Um So there. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of talent here. You know, they drafted eleven

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Speaker 1: guys and nine of them are defenders, and of those nine,

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Speaker 1: I would say probably five are gonna have pretty significant roles. Um,

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Speaker 1: how good does that mean the defense this is gonna be?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say, you know, I've I've gone through

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Speaker 1: training camps where I was like, Wow, this this is

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Speaker 1: doomsday two point oh, these guys are gonna kick some

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Speaker 1: ass and then that's the last thing that happens. So

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of trying to hedge my bets. But I

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Speaker 1: think you can see under Quinn that they're they're going

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Speaker 1: to be a lot more versatile than we got used

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Speaker 1: to seeing from this defense for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's always gonna work, but I

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Speaker 1: think that this defense is going to try to attack

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Speaker 1: the ball in a way that we haven't seen from

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys for a long time. Rod Baronelli for years

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Speaker 1: really seemed like he was more about limiting big plays

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Speaker 1: than anything else. And I think dan Quinn just once

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Speaker 1: guys getting to the football at all costs. Really. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what we've seen in training camp. It's been successful

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Speaker 1: in practice, whether it translates to games is a big,

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Speaker 1: big storyline brand Dave mentioned veteran days for people up front,

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Speaker 1: how much is left in the tank for this Eagles

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Speaker 1: defensive line that we've talked about for so long, you know,

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Speaker 1: waves of pass rush was getting after the quarterback Fletcher Cox,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham. How much left in the tank and what

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Speaker 1: should be the expectations for this d fence, which is,

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Speaker 1: to your point you made before, just a completely different

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Speaker 1: scheme than what we've seen from over the past ten years.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those questions everybody wants to figure out,

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Speaker 1: right and to me, like going into training camp, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we want to get eyes on the rookies. How are

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Speaker 1: they used? You know, how are they used in the

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Speaker 1: new scheme? Uh, you know, how do they look? Are

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Speaker 1: they are they kind of you know, are they lost

592
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Speaker 1: a little bit? But for me also you want to

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Speaker 1: see the vets and like, have they lost the step

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Speaker 1: at all? Guys like Patriots offensive line, I think most

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Speaker 1: people say one of the best in the league. The Jets,

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Speaker 1: They're trying to turn that around. You've got some some

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Speaker 1: high you know, some high picks there along that front

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Speaker 1: and free agent signs as well. Neither team could block

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, Javon Hargrave has been just absolutely

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Speaker 1: a game record every single day, not being and not

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Speaker 1: not to mention as well against the Eagle's offensive line

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Speaker 1: that I that I praised earlier. Uh, these guys have

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Speaker 1: been outstanding, and so I think there are really high

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Speaker 1: hopes for this Eagle's defensive front going into the year.

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Speaker 1: You've got a couple of young guys as well, with

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Speaker 1: Josh Sweat and Derek Barnett and some of the you know,

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Speaker 1: Milton Williams, the Eagles drafted in the third round right

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Speaker 1: around the same time that OsO A Digie Zoo went

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Speaker 1: off the board for Dallas, and Milton Williams has played

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Speaker 1: both inside and outside. They brought Ryan Carrigan over in

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Speaker 1: free agency. Uh, you know, and just you get that

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Speaker 1: sense that you know, all this this defensive front is

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Speaker 1: once again gonna be a strength. It's it's performed really

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Speaker 1: really well as a group. Here the Stummer all. Can

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Speaker 1: you all up in Washington and Philly like share the wealth? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: like like the Cowboys. It's like we the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: like one, maybe two decent pass rushers at any given time.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you all always have about six. There's

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Speaker 1: only enough for us. Well, and you guys took over

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Speaker 1: after the Giants did that from like two thousand and

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Speaker 1: seven to two thousand thirteen, and then we've been looking

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Speaker 1: for a pass rusher since then. So hey, Giant fans,

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Speaker 1: taking all the action of New York Giants football from

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Speaker 1: your very own private sweet. Giants sweets are a great

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Speaker 1: way to entertain your family and friends while rooting on

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Speaker 1: your Giants. Here MetLife Stadium speak with a Giant sweet

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Speaker 1: right now by calling n y Yeah, and look, I

628
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Speaker 1: think the Giants are and I think their defense is

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Speaker 1: going to be a strength. They were a top twelve

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Speaker 1: in IT last year. They've improved in that. They brought

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Speaker 1: in the Dorry Jackson their second cornerback spot. Last year

632
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Speaker 1: was a mess, you know, Isaac Yaddam, Madre Harper, Corey Ballantine.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason you guys probably don't know who any

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Speaker 1: of those guys are, and that's why they gave it.

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Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson a lot of money this offseason. He's been healthy.

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Speaker 1: He banged up himself a little bit in those joint

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Speaker 1: practices with New England when Mac Jones, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I understand why he got named the starter. He was

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Speaker 1: unbelievable up there. He basically looked like Drew Brees in practice,

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Speaker 1: telling you the kid was great. Um, But you know

641
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: their defense is gonna be good. And I think Patrick

642
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: Graham coming from that, you know Belichick, you know, school

643
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: is gonna play a lot more man to man, especially

644
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: on third downs this year. Last year, the Giants were

645
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: one of the heaviest zone teams in the league. So

646
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot more man to man,

647
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: a lot more blitz packages on those third downs. And

648
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: actually today Patrick Graham talked about our defensive coordinator, talked

649
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: about Lorenzo Carter, who's coming off achilles surgery setting into

650
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: his fourth year. He was a third round pick. You know,

651
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: great athlete, never really had that pass rush production in college,

652
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: but he had the tools for it, right And if

653
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: you're coming off achilles at injury year later taking us

654
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: onw and to get back, and Patrick Graham started raving,

655
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: almost got emotional of and he said, this guy looks

656
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: like a different player that I haven't seen in the

657
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: last three years. And he actually brought up to me

658
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: on the side, not comparing them, but he says he

659
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: mentioned the name Chandler Jones to me, which is you

660
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: know Boncos because Chandler Jones Chandler Jones, and he said, look,

661
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: they're different, players are not comparing him, but you're starting

662
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: to get the feel that he can impact the game

663
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: the same type of way. So I think that's kind

664
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: of really interesting player to keep an eye And the

665
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: Giants do need to find a pass rusher from the outside.

666
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: They have Leonard Williams, a tackle who's fantastic, Dexter Lawrence,

667
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: great inside player within your edge guy, So I think, uh,

668
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter is somebody to keep an eye on this

669
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 1: year if he can step up, if he can be

670
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: a real legitimate edge rusher. I think the Giants have

671
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: top seven top A defensive potential, and I do think

672
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: especially early in the year, the Giants start with Denver

673
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: who was an unbelievable defense. They have Washington in the

674
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: second week, really good defense there. Defense is gonna have

675
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: to realistically hold teams the seventeen or under if they

676
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: want to probably win those two games. So I think

677
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: that's something really interesting to kind of keep an eye on.

678
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: I mentioned Carter for the Giants. Each one of you

679
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Speaker 1: guys give me a nameable player on your rosters that

680
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: nobody is thinking about now, but by the end of

681
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: the they're gonna be like, Wow, that guy came out

682
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: of nowhere, or that guy's a lot better than we

683
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be to start the year.

684
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Speaker 1: Rookie Vet, anyone take your pick, I'll jump in. I'll

685
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: jump in with George my Lotta as a guy that

686
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: if he can just build off of this summer. We

687
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: saw him in a handful of starts last year in

688
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: his first real extensive actually not in the NFL, just

689
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: playing the sport. So seeing him here in year two

690
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: as a player and seeing him as a full time

691
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: starter along with a healthy offensive line, I think that

692
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: he'll start to see his star rise here moving forward.

693
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Zack, Okay, all right, I'll go with John Bates,

694
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: the tied in out of Boisey State, fourth round pick.

695
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of people you know

696
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: are here in Washington. Whatever. Every acid him, we were like,

697
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: who is but that is John Bates? Like that's not

698
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: something that's not a name that they really recognized. But

699
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: he's He's a very talented blocker, he has the right ability,

700
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: he knows he knows how to use his hands. He

701
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: has really good footwork, he has good leverage. And Pete Hainerd,

702
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: the Titans coach, who is a very let's say colorfully

703
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: language coach um in practice, he always has something good

704
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: to say about John and even when he's not saying

705
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: something great, he found a way to give a little

706
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: bit of a coaching moment. But you know, you know,

707
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: he didn't really catch the many balls in college. I

708
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: think it was only had like maybe two hundred and

709
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: sixty something yards total in his career, but he's got

710
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: some really good hands. I was talking to his tight

711
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: end coach a couple months ago and he was telling me, look,

712
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: he can make those contested catches. He can do everything

713
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: you asked him to just whenever we were whenever we

714
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: had him. We didn't really need him to do that

715
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: because he was so valuable as a blocker, we had

716
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: to have him out there on the line of scrimmage.

717
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: So I think that's gonna be a guy that you

718
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: don't really think a lot about, especially with Logan Tom

719
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: is out there primed to have another really good season,

720
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, he's gonna be the number two guy

721
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: that you think, well, that's gonna that's gonna complete that room.

722
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: I know. I just joked that the Cowboys don't have

723
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: a ton of good pass rushers, and they really don't.

724
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: But I think the name that I'm most excited to

725
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: see this entire season, maybe other than Dak Prescott, is

726
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. And you know that name if you follow

727
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: the NFC East, because he's been in the league for forever.

728
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable that this is his seventh season, but

729
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: this is the first time that he has ever been

730
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: around for an entire offseason. He's not facing some kind

731
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: of suspension. Um And aside from how good he is

732
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: as a player, I'm I'm just excited for Randy as

733
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: a person. He's a great guy. He's never done anything

734
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: quote unquote wrong. He's just run afoul of the league's

735
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: uh drug policy. You know, this is a guy that's

736
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: battled anxiety and depression. Obviously, the rules have changed recently.

737
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: It's allowed him to be around, get his feet underneath him.

738
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: I think he's in as good a place mentally as

739
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: he's ever been. And he had top ten talent, if

740
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: not for all of that stuff, and he looks like it.

741
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, he looks, he looks bulked up, he looks impressive,

742
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: he looks excited to get to have a chance to

743
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: play a full season. And um, you know, I don't,

744
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to put a number on

745
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: the guy. But if he plays the way he's looked

746
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: at training camp, he has certainly he looks like a

747
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: guy that's capable of tin sacks or maybe more. Um

748
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: And and I think he could be pivotal too. If

749
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: he's decent, then maybe the Cowboys defense isn't as good

750
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: as we think it could be. But if he kind

751
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: of takes that step into playing like a top ten

752
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: caliber player, it could mean something huge for the Dallas

753
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: defense as a whole. All Right, I didn't you guys

754
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: didn't prepared for the So I understand, take your time

755
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: on the edges. Let's do some rapid fire fun stuff here.

756
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: Who's gonna leave the NFC Eastern rushing yards? Hell, man,

757
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: you go first for what they're paying him in better busy.

758
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, that's that's the closest I

759
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: can come to an answer. I mean, that's obviously there's

760
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: some tough competition there. If Si Kuon's healthy, uh, Gibson

761
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: really broke onto the scene. I mean, Antonio Gibson looked

762
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: like a Hall of Famer against the Cowboys both times

763
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: last year. So um, but I mean, if the offensive

764
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: line's healthy. Mike McCarthy has made a point that they

765
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: are not going away from the running game just because

766
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: they have a forty million dollar quarterback. So ah, yeah,

767
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: I'll stick with our guy. Well, I'll jump in there, David,

768
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: as you well know, Jason Garrett likes to run the football.

769
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. And s Quan has not done

770
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: a team rep and practice yet with full contact. He

771
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: wore a red jersey and some team reps against New

772
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: England last week. He did some team reps today. Practice

773
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: is closed now so you don't get to watch. But

774
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: when he moves around, he looks like the old Sea

775
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: Kuon Barkley. And if he stays healthy, just by the

776
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: number of touches he's going to get, I don't think

777
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: DeVante Booker is probably gonna take a lot of touches

778
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: away from him. So I'm gonna be the homer here.

779
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: And look, I wrote on Giants dot Com We're gonna

780
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: do bull predictions next week, and I wrote that I

781
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna set a career high for yards

782
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: from scrimmage, which is twenty eight yards, and I said

783
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: he'd go over that. So I'm gonna go with Barkley here.

784
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I think as long as the injury doesn't hold him back,

785
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: and by all accounts it I don't think it will.

786
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: I think he could have a sixteen hundred yard, five

787
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: hundred rushing season, five hundred yard receiving season. So I'm

788
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going team Barkley here. Guys, I have to

789
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: how about you, Zack? I agree, honestly. I mean I

790
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: would be you know, it would be like hellman to

791
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: go with my guy. But I think Gibson is really

792
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: going to be used more like as adversa like Christan McCaffrey,

793
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: sort of like a pass catcher and a restaurant on

794
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: top of that, So may it kind of puts him

795
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: out the equation. But Barkley, I mean, my good afore

796
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: he got hurt, he was in the conversation being, you know,

797
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: one of the best running be the best running back

798
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: in the league. And I mean, now he he comes

799
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: back in, I think he's kind of already kind of

800
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: considered the top two or three now because it's ways

801
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: been able to perform. So I mean he before Hey,

802
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: he prepares onlike any other. I mean, those thighs are

803
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: something to behold. Say that it was constructed by possible

804
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I gotta go with bark But

805
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't really want to put a number on him,

806
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: but I could see I could see sixty hundred as

807
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: a realistic goal for him. How about your friend, I mean,

808
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: I just reflect back on last year before Dax's injury,

809
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: I and Dave Krak from I don't think that Zeke's

810
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: rushing numbers were when the that offense was healthy. It's

811
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: not like his numbers were through the roof. So I'm

812
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna go with say, Quad Barkley. I think you look

813
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: at their commitment to the run even after Barkley's injury.

814
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you you talked about it, just the fact

815
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: that they were so committed to the run. I agree.

816
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: My I think that when you look at Miles Sanders,

817
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: I think his role will be similar to what you're

818
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: talking about with Gibson, that there will be a lot,

819
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of pass game volume, but in

820
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: terms of just pure rushing with the commitment that the

821
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Giants after the run game with Jason Garrett, I'm gonna

822
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: go with Barkley. Actually, let me just so I don't

823
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: sound like a complete and total homer. You know, we

824
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: we we get down into these bunkers during training camp,

825
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Like I know, I know it's the same for all

826
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: all Like you don't really have time to pay attention

827
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: to anybody else. If you're promising me se Kwan is

828
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: healthy for the whole season, I don't disagree at all.

829
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, I think that's really the only concern

830
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: for me, because you're right. I mean, not only were

831
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Zeke's numbers not great last year, there's a lot of

832
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: mouths to feed on this offense. And even honestly, Zeke's

833
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: got a great backup and Tony Pollard that could take

834
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: some yards away from him as well. So I don't

835
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: have a problem saying Sae kwon either. And by the way,

836
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: I can't promise that Sa Kwan is gonna be healthy.

837
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: I wish I could, but I can't. But you know,

838
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: and I won't how much Tony Pollard's gonna take off

839
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: a Zeke's hands, to which I think is interesting to see.

840
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: He's a really good player all right, here's a good one.

841
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: And Dave might not be able to answer this for

842
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: his for his own team, but I think for the

843
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: division is interesting. Who's gonna lead the division in receiving yards?

844
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: I think we have a lot of good choices here,

845
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go with an upset. I think you'll

846
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: like this one, Zack. I'm gonna go with Terry mclauren.

847
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: I think because Dallas will spread the wealth a lot.

848
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna spread spread out a little bit.

849
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: Can you go out out the intro? I'm not so sure.

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00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: I love Terry mclauren coming out of well with your

851
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: quarterback situation last year. For him to put up the

852
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: numbers he did was really impressive. See what's a lot

853
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: about about Fitzpatrick. He's willing to throw the ball into

854
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: tight spots and coverage, and I don't know if we

855
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: fully know their number. I know Curtis Samuel's there, but

856
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: he's not like your traditional wide receiver, you know. So

857
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: I think mclauren's might lead the division and targets. To

858
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think he might. So I'm

859
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: going Terry mclauren. I think he's gonna have his breakout

860
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: all per year. Well, I'll say that. I mean he

861
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: had hard thirty four targets last year and that was

862
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: with that was with Alex Smith right half with Kyle

863
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: and and a little bit of Heinecky there at the

864
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: end throwing passes to him. I gotta agree. I think.

865
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: I think the reason I say that is because Fitzpatrick

866
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: has a tendency to let us go downfield and get

867
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: gate yards. That's not something that that Terry's really had

868
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: that much in his career thus far. Dwayne really what

869
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: he was known for having a big arm in Ohio state,

870
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: but he didn't really get a jest to use it

871
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: that much. Alison McClellan, They're not really those guys who

872
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: were gonna just sling it on the field. Fitzpatrick is

873
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it. It might would always be a great

874
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: play but end up being a reception. He's gonna give

875
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: you the shot to do it. And with a guy

876
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: like Terry out there, who he works harder than anybody

877
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: else that I've ever seen, has a gray approach to

878
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: how he runs his routes, I think that's a perfect marriage. Honestly,

879
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be something very interesting to watch.

880
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean he and plus he had a thousand yards

881
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: like he had last year, like you, just like you said,

882
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd have without all those different quarterback facts

883
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: out there. I think he's gonna have a really big year.

884
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: How to me? I mean, look, I would say the

885
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: McLaren it is probably the answer, but I do want

886
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: to throw in, especially because I haven't talked about him.

887
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: I think DeVante Smith is gonna be extremely productive this year. Uh.

888
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles are gonna throw the ball, and

889
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith from day one acted like a number one receiver,

890
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean, came in and just has that or about

891
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: him whenever he's out in the field. MR a handful

892
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: of days due to an injury midway through camp. Um,

893
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: but this guy has been sharp, sharp, sharp with everything

894
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: that he does. Uh, in practice, has rarely put the

895
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: ball on the ground, had a couple of drops in

896
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: that first preseason game. Um. But Davante Smith, I think

897
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: he's a guy that could could fight for that monocher

898
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. This may or may

899
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: not be a fantasy football related follow up. But how

900
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: does Jalen Reagor look Ragor's had I mean you would

901
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: say that he has had had two or three of

902
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: the best catches of anybody, and he went up and

903
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: over Darius Slay and on one on one drill he

904
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: went up and over. When the Patriots came down, I

905
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: think it was j. C. Jackson up and over j C.

906
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: Jackson in the corner of the end zone. Crazy like

907
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: a very Odell Beckham one handed grab, but you know,

908
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: along the goal line. So I think when you see

909
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: his ability to go up and win, but then also

910
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: I mean with the ability to create with the ball

911
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: in his hands. Uh, in this offense, that's gonna be

912
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: Yack focused. Like I mentioned earlier, he's got the abievy

913
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: to be very productive as well. Dave, I'm glad you

914
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: brought up fantasy because I'm already bracing myself for already

915
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: bracing myself for the angry fantasy football fans, because like

916
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys have got to be a fantasy football

917
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: player's nightmare. I mean, you got three great receivers, two

918
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: really good running backs, like we just mentioned, they even

919
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: like they don't even have a starting tight end, They've

920
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: got two tight ends that kind of juggle the responsibilities.

921
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: So good luck figuring out who's gonna blow up for

922
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: that reason. Like, I don't disagree with you all about

923
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, to be honest, I mean I think I

924
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: do think Amari Cooper tends to get lost in the

925
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: shuffle a little bit. I think he's just so reliably

926
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: good that people just sort of take it for granted.

927
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: He doesn't do the jaw dropping circus catch stuff. That's

928
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: for not really his game. But he's just a technician.

929
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: And he had the best season of his career last

930
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: year despite losing Deck in Week five. So I absolutely

931
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to see him blow up. But um,

932
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, as long as I'm pimping the team I cover,

933
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: if there's one thing that I feel a hundred percent

934
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: confident about going into this season having watched six weeks

935
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: of camp, just buy stock and ceedee lamb, guys. I mean,

936
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: we knew he was a great player. We knew. It

937
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: was kind of an upset that he fell to the

938
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the first place. He looks like he's ready

939
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: to take that lead. I mean, I know the Cowboys

940
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: secondary is an amazing but he just went out there

941
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: every day in camp and just put on a show.

942
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Circus catch after circus catch total domination. I don't know

943
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: if he's gonna lead the division in receiving yards, but

944
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a household name by the

945
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: time this season's over with. Yeah, I think the Giants

946
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: hope that Kenny Golladay is in the mix there too,

947
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: if he's healthy. Daniel Jones needs someone that can made

948
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: some contested catches, and he's the guy a lot of

949
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: big plays there. The Giants hope this year all right,

950
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: top more rapid fire Zach. Who's gonna lead the division

951
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: in sacks? Or should I say which Washington Football team

952
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: player is going to lead to divisions? By the way,

953
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: I think it was Leonard Williams last year to eleven

954
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: and a half, by the way, just I don't think

955
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: anyone else topped him. You know, I think it's interesting

956
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: because Montest Sweat even brought this up. They that he

957
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: and Chase are going after the the all time combined

958
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Sacker heard for a tandon, which to think of about

959
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half. So they have to they

960
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: have to average, you know. I'm I was told there

961
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: will being a math for this podcast. I'm not gonna try,

962
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: but who had that who who at the thirty nine

963
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: and a half? Do you know it was the Vikings

964
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: like Chris Doleman and John Randall like that group. Yeah,

965
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. But I mean they also have to go,

966
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, get past like extra manly and you know

967
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: a couple I'm not an extra yeah, but I mean,

968
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, like there's there's a bunch of like why

969
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of quality pass rushers in Washington's history

970
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: as well. So it's one of those things where I

971
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: think that Chase Jason was really good last year. I

972
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: think montest Wet hadn't even better year statistically, just because

973
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: he was this flat out dominant and he I would

974
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: say he took another step from his rookie year. So

975
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: I think Chase is gonna come close. I think it's

976
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: gonna I think he'll get double digit sacks this here.

977
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a case to make a

978
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. But Montessa will have more

979
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: sacks I think, just by hair. Not by much, maybe

980
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: like a one or two sacks. But I think he's

981
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a monster year. What do you think, friend?

982
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean to me, like, I look at this Eagel's

983
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: defensive front, and I don't know if they're is gonna

984
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: be one guy that eats up a lot of that production.

985
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, uh, the what Dave was talking

986
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: about with the Dallas receiving corps. Like I just feel

987
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: like so many of these guys are gonna just kind

988
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: of clawed each other. How about de Marcus Lawrence? Yeah,

989
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: you're looking at at that's at that's fun. You look

990
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: at Marcus Lawrences all right, Like this is a team

991
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be in a lot of shootouts. Uh, you know,

992
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: teams are gonna be trying to pass the football, trying

993
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: to keep up and keep pace with that offense. De

994
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence there's not a lot of other mouths to

995
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: feed defensively on that front. He's a guy I feel

996
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: like could be, you know, standing over the quarterback more

997
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: often than not. I'm glad you said it so that

998
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't feel crazy. Um, So I'm going with a

999
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: Washington guy. Absolutely, Like it's I would bet that it's

1000
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna be Chase Younger Montes Sweat. Absolutely, that seems like

1001
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: the right call. But I do think it's interesting again,

1002
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory is has the potential to be

1003
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: the best partner that DeMarcus has had. He had Robert

1004
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: Quinn for a year, um, but I think Randy could

1005
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: really be a better all around player, really help him

1006
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: not dealing with so many double teams. And don't underestimate

1007
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: the role that Micah Parsons is gonna play as a

1008
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: pass rusher as well. I think that he's a guy

1009
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: that could chip in and have somewhere between four or

1010
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: six seven sacks on the season that could really help

1011
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: the Marcus see a much more favorable matchup weekend week

1012
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: out than he's been used to. I'm still not going

1013
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: to bet against Chase young No, that guy is just

1014
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: a freak. Yeah. I think Randy Gregory is the dark horse.

1015
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think if you want

1016
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: a dark horse sack leader, I think it's him. I

1017
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: think Chase young Man, like these pass rushers usually take

1018
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: a year to get going because there's not many Nick Boses.

1019
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: What do you having his rookie almost like fifteen sacks.

1020
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: There are many Nick Boses running around. I could see

1021
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Chase young just becoming the outside rusher edge rusher in

1022
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: the league this year and just completely breaking out. So

1023
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Chase Young, but I think Gregory

1024
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: is a good dark horse there, all right, Hey, Jihanant fans.

1025
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: On September twenty six lost, the Giants retire Eli Manning's

1026
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: jersey and style. We're offering an exclusive Sweet package which

1027
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: includes Eli bobbleheads jersey's T shirt to more speak with

1028
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: the Giant Sweet representative Now by calling n ygl option four,

1029
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask everybody predictive and win the division

1030
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: because I think we'll figure out a way to pick

1031
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: our own teams. So how about this? How many wins

1032
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: will it take to win the NFC East And just

1033
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: how do you think this division is is generally gonna

1034
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: play out throughout the year. Yeah, I know he wants

1035
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: to go first. First, I'll do it, um, I think honestly,

1036
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I think kind of been debating this for a while now, Um,

1037
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: I think nine wins will get it because I think

1038
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: every I think everything one of these rosters got better

1039
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: in some way, I would, honest. I mean, Washington, the

1040
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: offense was the biggest concern. They've They've spent a lot

1041
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: of money to try to like end draft picks to

1042
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: raise that part of their game, not to the level

1043
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: of the defense, because I think that'd be very difficult.

1044
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: But they've at least get to the point where they're

1045
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: not in the low twenties. Are the high twenties, upper

1046
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: low thirties there now, and I think they're I've think

1047
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: there at least they've ranked up a couple of spots.

1048
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: You know, the Cowboys, they look like they've made some

1049
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: improvements on defense. Eagles, I mean Jalen Hurts from its

1050
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: seemed to look look more improved under center. Giants have

1051
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: looked really good in the secondary. I think that I

1052
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think they're gonna be the laughing

1053
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: stock of the NFL like they were last year. I

1054
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: think that the losing, the losing record is not gonna

1055
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: cut it anymore. I think that I think nine and

1056
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: eight will get it. I think maybe even ten, to

1057
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: be honest with maybe pushing it a little bit, but

1058
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I think ten is it is not outside the realm

1059
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: of possibility. No, I'm with you, Zach, I'm going ten.

1060
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: I think you need tend to win the division, especially

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00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 1: if we wanted out right, I think nine, you're looking

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00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: at the tiebreaker if you want to win this thing

1063
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: out right, I think it's ten, And to me, I

1064
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: has to do with the schedule. Last year, this division

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00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: had to play the ANFC North, which had three really

1066
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: good teams in Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and UM Cleveland, and they

1067
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 1: play the NFC West, which was a hall. The NFC

1068
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: South is a little bit of a softer landing. You

1069
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: have Carolina, you have Atlanta, and while the f C

1070
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: West obviously has Kansas City, you know the Raiders and

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00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: the Broncos their teams that we're not playoff teams last year.

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00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: So for me, I think just the schedule being a

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00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: little bit easier will probably help the teams in the division.

1074
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: And I do think they're gonna be healthier too, right,

1075
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: See Kwan's not gonna miss the whole year again, Doc's

1076
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: not gonna miss the whole year again. Those are some

1077
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: important players last year that got hurt. We know about

1078
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: the Eagles offensive line. You guys had no starters left

1079
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: by Week two. It's hard to win games that way.

1080
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: So I think just the schedule and the health will

1081
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: make sure the division is better. So I think ten

1082
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: will get to the playoffs and win the division. But

1083
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll get any wild card teams out

1084
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: of the NFC East this year. At one thing we

1085
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: do know is that it won't be Washington if history hold.

1086
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: Uh you know, we know that it's it's been a

1087
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: different division winner every year for the last two decades. So,

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00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: uh No, I think that ten is the right number

1089
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: for all the reasons you said, John, I don't think

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00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: there's any reason to go against that. Yeah, I've settled

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00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: on nine or ten. I think overall it's going to

1092
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: be better. I can't imagine it would be the laughing

1093
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: stock that it was last year. I looked this up

1094
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: a little while ago. You know the famous two thousand

1095
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: ten NFC West where the Seahawks, Uh, you know one

1096
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: at seven and nine. That division produced a thirteen win

1097
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: team in San Francisco the very next year. So you know,

1098
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: people over do it with just assuming that it's going

1099
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: to carry over from year to year. I think I'd

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00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: be surprised to see that, um And I agree with you, John,

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00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: like I would be surprised if more than one team

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00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: makes the playoffs out of this division. I think, if

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00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: I had to guess, the champion of this division is

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00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna sit comfortably in the four seed, if I had

1105
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: to guess, that's just me. But yeah, like nine or

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00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: ten wins I think gets it done. I'm gonna open

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Speaker 1: the table, do you guys? Final thoughts? You can touch

1108
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: on something that we're a team you can go around

1109
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: the NFL a sleeper team and will lead a Super

1110
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: Bowl prediction. You could say whatever you want. Let's start

1111
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: with Frank go ahead. Oh man, the pressure is on. Um.

1112
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: I'm just excited for you know, the all the young

1113
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: arter backs playing around the league. It's definitely been a

1114
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: changing in the guard at that position. We've seen some

1115
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: all time greats retire over the last couple of off seasons.

1116
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: So you know whether you have uh, you know, all

1117
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: the rookies. I mean there's five first round quarterbacks. You've

1118
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: got a bunch of second year guys that are under

1119
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: center this year, obviously one here in Philadelphia, but all

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Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks. I think it's an exciting time for

1121
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: the league. And we'll see exactly how some of them do.

1122
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 1: But all of them had great flashes, these rookies here

1123
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Speaker 1: in the preseason. We'll see how many of it is,

1124
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: how much of that is able to carry over into

1125
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Speaker 1: regular season play. Dave this is obvious. I mean, it's

1126
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: it's really Cowboys specific, but I think it pertains the

1127
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: entire league. But I mean, it sucks watching a whole

1128
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Speaker 1: season of football when all of the good players on

1129
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: the team aren't there, you know, I mean, it's it's

1130
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: just it's not what you sign up for. And obviously

1131
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: you know that that applies to Dallas with Doc and

1132
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: the offensive tackles and all of the misery that happened here.

1133
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: But again, you know, the Giants didn't have Sa Kwan.

1134
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: The Eagles had a boatload of injuries. My guy Joe

1135
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: Burrow didn't get to finish his rookie season, and that's

1136
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: that's just a bummer. So I'm just, more than anything,

1137
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping for a cleaner bill of health. I

1138
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: know that's unrealistic in the NFL. Injuries are what they

1139
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: are when you play a sport like this, but um yeah,

1140
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: it's it's just not fun watching the practice squad try

1141
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: to play regular season games. So hopefully less of that

1142
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: this year. Can we just talk about how Tom Brady

1143
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: had a strain or torn It wasn't torn, it was

1144
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: a torn or st or strain m c L. This

1145
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: past year and he's still played spectacularly. I mean, I

1146
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: spent most of my life really uh doubting Tom Brady.

1147
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: I know, I still don't like him. Better respect him

1148
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: now he's I mean, he's found to have another really

1149
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: good year. I mean I would I would say a

1150
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: lot of people are considering him in the bucks to

1151
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: go back to the super Bowl this year, correct, right,

1152
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty fair Brady. I mean you can't

1153
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: bet against together exactly, and he's going for number eight.

1154
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: My goodness, can we uh somebody to just beat it?

1155
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: Get the Giants to step up man the super Bowl

1156
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: this year? Though. It's the only thing. I do think though,

1157
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: that one of these, one of the teams in division

1158
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: will upset him this year. I would say, I think

1159
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: they've all got the skills, So I don't want to

1160
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: say who first. So I mean it has to be Dallas, right,

1161
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: I tell you what. Like it's I mean, like I said,

1162
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys are they're a little bit ahead

1163
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: of everybody else, right because they play that Thursday games,

1164
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: so they're kind of into their game mode a little

1165
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: bit more. And you go through the grind of training

1166
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: camp and all of a sudden, you look up and

1167
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: you're like, holy crap, that's coming up. That's coming up

1168
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: in you know, less than a week. And like I

1169
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: said at the top of the show, I'll be interested

1170
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: to see how they're ready for it, because it looks

1171
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: like a daunting task right now. All right, I'll just

1172
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: close with this guy's full buildings of fans. Last year

1173
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: was weird, like watching games in those empty buildings. It

1174
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: was weird, like really strange every week worrying about oh,

1175
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: COVID results this and that that shouldn't be as big

1176
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: of a factor. This year, we're all the only protocol. Still,

1177
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: it's not the same. We all know that we're in

1178
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: the building. We all know. But I do think we're

1179
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: gonna be one more step towards normalcy this year, which

1180
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: I think is a really good thing. And I think

1181
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: it's a fun thing. So hopefully we get closer and

1182
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: I get a you know, an NFL season. To Dave's point,

1183
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: that's not about injuries, it's not about COVID, and it's

1184
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: just about the best team going af DUR and winning.

1185
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna be fun. And it's always

1186
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: fun to see who the next guys that steps up,

1187
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: right last year was Josh Allen where you wondered after

1188
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: two years was he the guy? He saw flashes? But

1189
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: last year m VP candidate, who's gonna be the guy?

1190
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: Is gonna be Joe Burrow maybe if he's healthy the

1191
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: year you know, who's gonna be that next guy to

1192
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: become the star? I think that's kind of what I'm

1193
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: looking forward to the most. It's just to kind of

1194
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: see how not just this year's draft classes, you know,

1195
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: friend mentioned with this year's rookies and how they're gonna

1196
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: play just the last couple of years, you know, the

1197
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: Sam Donald have a resurgence in Caroline. I think that's

1198
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: a fun thing to watch Daniel Jones do something like

1199
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's head looking for a contracts those lamar Jack's

1200
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: and can he take that next step? Just you know,

1201
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: who's that next guy that that's gonna challenge the Chiefs

1202
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: in the a f C and challenge the Bucks in

1203
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: the FC because those are really the two teams, right

1204
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: that everyone's trying to climb towards and who's gonna do it?

1205
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what, you know, the

1206
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Speaker 1: fun and unpredictability of of every NFL year guys. This

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Speaker 1: was fun. Really appreciate it. Good luck this year and

1208
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: we will talk leading up to the draft. All right,

1209
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: thanks you all looking forward to it. I'll hopefully see

1210
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: you all really soon. Yes we will. We will play

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Speaker 1: each other quite soon. Maybe, Zach, we don't see Washington

1212
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: until all the way in December, but yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Fran Duffy, Zack lby Dave Hellman. Excellent job, guys. As

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Speaker 1: we do a little preview of the NFC East. That's

1215
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Speaker 1: our NFC East round table. We thank the guys for

1216
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Speaker 1: joining us. It was a lot of fun. Get you

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Speaker 1: ready for NFL season. I'm John Schmulkin again the John

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Speaker 1: check out the All in n y G podcast celebrating

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Speaker 1: the tenth anniversary of Super Bowl forty six, which is

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Speaker 1: John schmoke Have a great Labor Day weekend. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time.