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Speaker 1: Fish on First Live, presented by About the Fans. The

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Speaker 1: final stream of the twenty twenty five regular season.

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Speaker 3: They did it.

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Speaker 1: They really slapped the Mets out of the playoffs. Everybody

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Speaker 1: was it has happened before, history has repeated itself in

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Speaker 1: the final game of this season. Elis Susman fish on

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Speaker 1: for super sub Gabriel Ravilla. He has been on the

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Speaker 1: final stream of the season at least three years running

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Speaker 1: at this point, and amazing occasion. This is I think

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Speaker 1: They shut out the New York Mets like this, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean just looking at

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Speaker 3: So I would say sixty five percent Mets fans. Great

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Speaker 1: where a lot of people have it in the way

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Speaker 1: that I'll be curious to see what well that's something

441
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Speaker 1: will follow. It kind of depends how the offseason goes

442
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Speaker 1: as well in terms of what the excitement level is

443
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Speaker 1: for next offseason. I know the vibes are extremely high

444
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Speaker 1: right now out but I think some of the mood

445
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Speaker 1: heading into next year also depend on what tangible improvements

446
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Speaker 1: they try to make to the roster in a way

447
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Speaker 1: that they didn't do at all coming into this year.

448
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Speaker 1: So even though maybe there were a couple especially during

449
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Speaker 1: the second half of the season, attendance was a lot better,

450
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Speaker 1: wasn't great in the first half because expectations were so low,

451
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Speaker 1: and because a lot of that was because of how

452
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Speaker 1: quiet the off season was where they yeah, it was zero,

453
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Speaker 1: there was zero outward aside from that one Bruce Sherman

454
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Speaker 1: quote and now famous proof Sherman quote, I win a

455
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Speaker 1: lot of our games and you'd think we're gonna win.

456
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Speaker 1: Aside from that, you know, they were not not as

457
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Speaker 1: an administration. They weren't really trying to get people's expectations up.

458
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Speaker 1: They were very cautious thing too this year in a

459
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Speaker 1: way that I think there's gonna be a lot different

460
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Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty six.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the season that I'm sorry about all the

462
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Speaker 2: NBA noise here, but the season, like the compared to

463
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Speaker 2: was the twenty three season in which they had one million,

464
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Speaker 2: one hundred season two thousand fans.

465
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Speaker 3: That was another season that the Yankees did come.

466
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Speaker 2: To Miami a little bit by that really fun trade

467
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Speaker 2: deadline that kim Ming orchestrated bringing in Chears Bell and

468
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Speaker 2: Jake Berger and David Robertson.

469
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Speaker 3: So I think that sort of boosted the numbers a

470
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Speaker 3: little bit.

471
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Speaker 2: So if not for that traded I remember this deadline,

472
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Speaker 2: they were sellers, albeit minor sellers.

473
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Speaker 3: They were sellers. No good additions to the club except.

474
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Speaker 2: For Ryan Gusto maybe, so yeah, I think it would

475
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Speaker 2: have been almost identical numbers attendance wise, have the deadline

476
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Speaker 2: been similar and those two years for the Yankees were

477
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Speaker 2: in town.

478
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Speaker 6: Both years, I think we're gonna win a lot of games,

479
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Speaker 6: a lot more games, and you think we're gonna win

480
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Speaker 6: this year.

481
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Speaker 1: There's that famous SoundBite. Okay, so anything else you want

482
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Speaker 1: to get to here. Of course, because of what the

483
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Speaker 1: Marlins do here, the Reds are the ones that end

484
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Speaker 1: up making it into the playoffs, a team that I

485
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Speaker 1: was going through this exercise in terms of trying to

486
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Speaker 1: find former Marlins on all the playoff teams, and the

487
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Speaker 1: Reds don't really have any as far as I can

488
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Speaker 1: think of. So it's not like, uh, I don't know

489
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Speaker 1: if people are gonna care This goes back to what

490
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Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, where there just were not enough

491
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Speaker 1: good teams in the National League. This year, somebody had

492
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Speaker 1: to be the sixth best team in the Allen and

493
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Speaker 1: ends up being the Reds, just a little bit ahead

494
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Speaker 1: of the Mets. But I spoke with this before you

495
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Speaker 1: came on, Isaac about just how wide open this playoff

496
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Speaker 1: field is else Baseball, where they're just are as this

497
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Speaker 1: year overall in both leagues that there weren't dominant teams

498
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Speaker 1: and nobody needs any team can take it. Nobody came

499
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Speaker 1: particularly close to one hundred wins. So is that your

500
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Speaker 1: your feel on it too, that this is it's really

501
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Speaker 1: hard to handicap this playoff field heading into it.

502
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me.

503
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Speaker 2: I mean, the two teams to beat in the National

504
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Speaker 2: League are the ones they get the bye week in Philadelphia,

505
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Speaker 2: and the Brewers of two are just at a different

506
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Speaker 2: class of their own in my opinion, compared to the

507
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Speaker 2: other National League teams in the American League.

508
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Speaker 3: I believe it's completely up in the air.

509
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Speaker 2: Anyone could take anyone can meet one of those two

510
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Speaker 2: teams in the World Series. Personally, personally, I'm rooting for

511
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: the Mariners to get deep to go deep at some point. Man,

512
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: It's really great to see them in the postseason, even

513
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: get that by week as well. I'm really excited for

514
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: playoff Baseball to return to the Rogers Center in Toronto,

515
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: that they always go crazy for their Playoff Baseball there.

516
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Speaker 2: But I guess a sneaky non bye week team I

517
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Speaker 2: would say is.

518
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Speaker 3: I gotta be the Cubs, even though they are.

519
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Speaker 2: I don't know what their situation is with Kyle Sucker

520
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: and their pitching has been okay, But yeah, no, I

521
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: think the two teams too on both leagues are the

522
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Speaker 2: Phillies and the Brewers are the two best teams in

523
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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball.

524
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Speaker 3: Tigers too.

525
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Speaker 4: Geez, do you think guys did that? What do you

526
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Speaker 4: think about the Dodgers going into this postseason.

527
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Speaker 3: I think that they have so much experience.

528
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Speaker 2: They saw Clayton Cursha get his ovation here today in

529
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Speaker 2: safegu Field or I don't think it's called safegu Field anymore.

530
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Speaker 3: But I think they have their issues as well. I

531
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Speaker 3: think they have limited pitching as well.

532
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Speaker 2: But you know the top of their lineup, three first

533
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Speaker 2: ballot Hall of famers, They've all been in this situation before.

534
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Speaker 2: The Raining Champs maybe we'll see. We'll see if they

535
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: can have a little bit of fatigue. But they they

536
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Speaker 2: weren't as impressive as I thought they would be this season.

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've been jotting it down on the fly,

538
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: the former Marlins on these postseason teams and Colin Ray

539
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Speaker 1: official lists. I'm just counting the ones that had major

540
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Speaker 1: league playing time with the Marlins. So yeah, Colin Ray

541
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Speaker 1: is gonna be some low leverage roll with the Cubs.

542
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Speaker 1: And yeah, with a handful of teams, I can't figure

543
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Speaker 1: one out. The Dodgers have the biggest Marlins presence where

544
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Speaker 1: they Mickey Row, they have Tanner, Scott and Alex Messi.

545
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Speaker 1: I think Tanner is going to make their postseason roster

546
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Speaker 1: pretty sure, even though he absolutely disintegrated down the stretch.

547
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, he can.

548
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: He leads majoralague baseball blowing staves, but they can't have

549
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: their what eighty million dollar reliever not on the wall.

550
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Speaker 3: That would be that would be something.

551
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Speaker 1: Mm hm oh. Yeah.

552
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Speaker 4: Set up with the Dodgers at all this year at all.

553
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Speaker 1: They've been I guess things kind of settle down for

554
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Speaker 1: them the last couple of weeks of the season. Of course,

555
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Speaker 1: for them to that allow them to win the division,

556
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Speaker 1: and so at least they're gonna have a home field

557
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: for that wild card series overall, and they I think

558
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: their arms got healthy at the right time in a

559
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Speaker 1: way where if I had to pick a favorite, I

560
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Speaker 1: would actually pick them to repeat if I had to

561
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Speaker 1: pick one team to make it through. But I wouldn't.

562
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: I would not feel great about that pick whatsoever, just

563
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: because their pitching staff is in a very weird situation

564
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: where they have amazing rotation and they have the opposite

565
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: issue when it comes to the bullpen. But there's just

566
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Speaker 1: a reminder of some guys. You may have forgotten about

567
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm counting David Robertson as a former

568
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: Marlin with the Phillies. And of course we talked about

569
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: hass Wizardo quite a bit on the previous stream with

570
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Alex Carr, where Lozarda is gonna be a huge piece

571
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Speaker 1: of what the Phillies do in the postseason. I forget

572
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: a tiny taste of it two years ago with the Marlins,

573
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Speaker 1: and we've already been through with with Jazz last year

574
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Speaker 1: or Jazz had was all things considered, not a very

575
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: poor individual performance in the playoffs, but the team itsel

576
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Speaker 1: and he had a couple of big moments.

577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just a few weeks or maybe a

578
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, it was thought that maybe lost

579
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Speaker 2: be thrown out of the bullpen for this Philadelphia stacked

580
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: rotation when he was struggling at tiny bid Zac Wheeler

581
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: was still there. But hey, he's really shown to be

582
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Speaker 2: like probably the second best starter in that rotation behind

583
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Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchezever, Nola comes back if there was eight shutout

584
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: innings the other day. So the Phillies, I'm telling you,

585
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: are they forced to be reckoned with it's pitching and

586
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: defense wins the World Series and the Phillies have.

587
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Speaker 4: That mm hmm.

588
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: That's why I meant not make it. They did not

589
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: have a more than six innings. They more than two times.

590
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Speaker 2: I think they had one more than six over the

591
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: last sixty games, which is upsurd.

592
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, a complete, complete collapse.

593
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: We gotta keep coming back to that because that is

594
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: that is not just the news from this game, but

595
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: that is the news around baseball this year that this

596
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: Mets team that's been as much money as they ever

597
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: had to put together. Oh yeah, that got an amazing

598
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: year all things considered. They got an amazing year from

599
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Speaker 1: once Sotal, they got an amazing year from pe Alonzo,

600
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: they got an amazing year from Francisco Lindor, and their

601
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: pitching staff just totally crumpled as a year went on.

602
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Speaker 1: And in this final series, even those big names didn't

603
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: weren't good enough, wasn't it wasn't a deep enough roster. Offensively,

604
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: they made a plump to trade deadline moves of and

605
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: they're really active at the deadline, and basically none of

606
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: those guys helped them whatsoever. Like of course, in the series,

607
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins was a non factor in this particular game,

608
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Speaker 1: which Rogers I always forget whether it's Taylor or Tyler Rogers,

609
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: but whichever Rogers they got right in the middle of

610
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: this game ends up allowing a couple of huge hits

611
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Speaker 1: that break up Tyler.

612
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: Yes they're brothers, right, Tyler is the submariner right handed.

613
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: Taylor is the left hander. That was if I remember, Oh,

614
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: I think he's the Giants.

615
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: Now he's with the Giants.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was with the Giants, and yeah, and it's

617
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: always cool to see a major league team any teams.

618
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: We don't get to see it that often with the Marlins.

619
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Speaker 2: But team's managing like it's game set of the World Series.

620
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Speaker 2: That's what it did today.

621
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Speaker 3: Right away.

622
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Speaker 2: You had Sean and Ia throw five shut out outs

623
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Speaker 2: and then go straight to his bullpen. And yeah, Tyler

624
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: Rodgers gave up the pivotal two hits that ended up

625
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: scoring for the Marlins. And man, just like we said,

626
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: a complete collapse for the New York Mets. You don't

627
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: hate to see it by any means you feel in

628
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: the club house, Yeah, it's it's hard not to take

629
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Speaker 2: to smile a little bit. Just think we're in the

630
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: National Championship Series just last year, and you add Juan

631
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: Soto and it turns.

632
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: Out to be tough.

633
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: But they had some flaws lower half of the second

634
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: half of their lineup. You know, if it's not Lindor

635
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: Soda or a Lonzo going yard, they don't really have

636
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: much else going right for them at the same time.

637
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: So it was really tough for them, you know, to

638
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: win a lot of ball games in the second half

639
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: when none of their starting pitchers were going deep into

640
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: ball games, and Edwin Diaz had to carry the entire

641
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: bullpen because like you like mentioned, a lot of those

642
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: newly acquired bullpen additions did not really help out as much.

643
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Speaker 4: Do you think they end up keeping Peter a Lonzo.

644
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: I I couldn't tell you. I have no idea. I

645
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: I just it's hard to see him in another uniform.

646
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: And I agree, but I don't see him doing this again,

647
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: you know, option out just to go back to the Mets.

648
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: I I find that hard to believe. So I could,

649
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: I could see him taking his talents elsewhere.

650
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: I guess to sign him. No, don't get your hopes

651
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: stuff about that, but I would. I would guess that

652
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: the Mets are can be the favorites. I don't feel

653
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: certain about it. It'd be different if if he was

654
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: one of the main issues why they collapsed, and if

655
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: like he didn't feel the fact that he performed so

656
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: well and that he was just as good as ever

657
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: during the final weeks, the final couple of months of

658
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: the season in a way that he would be very

659
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: warmly received if he came back. They certainly have the

660
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: most money to spend on him if they there's a

661
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: desire to bring him back, and I don't think the

662
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: team's overall issue is going to lessen their appetite for

663
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: bring him back. So it's a Mets scene that has

664
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: an amazing young block, Like they have a bunch of

665
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: guys that unfortunately were like half a season too young

666
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: to totally flip things around. They have arguably the best

667
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: farm system in baseball, and we saw several of those

668
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: guys reach the big leagues down the stretch of the

669
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: season on both especially on the pitching side. If they

670
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: had those reinforcements, those guys were just a little bit

671
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: more developed where they could have gotten more out of

672
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: them this year, or a couple of the guys that

673
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: they still haven't triple A on the position player side

674
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: were fully developed, then could have been a different story

675
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: in terms of how they performed down the stretch. But

676
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: their future is still pretty bright and they despite all

677
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: that talents, they don't have an obvious successor at first base,

678
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Like that's one particular position that even though it is

679
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: kind of easy to fill, it's one where they don't

680
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: have they don't have an understudy that makes a whole

681
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: lot of sense, unless they even if they shift Mark

682
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: Bientos over to first. He's a guy that had an

683
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: extremely inconsistent year. I think, if I had to guess,

684
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I think Alonso is gonna come back eventually, but that's

685
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: not going.

686
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: To fix things.

687
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Of course, they are in a weird spot where they

688
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: at times this year they were they looked as complete

689
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: as any team in baseball at certain points during the

690
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: first half of the season, and to go from that

691
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: to missing out entirely, it's I can understand why fans

692
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: are in total agony over that.

693
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, if in case he does not go back, I

694
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: do believe that Eric Wagerman is a free agent, so

695
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: they could try and replace that production with Wags.

696
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: With that in jur U s K, I did not

697
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: know that he was a free agent.

698
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: All I should clear for that he is not even though. Yeah,

699
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the way that to take a large look at who

700
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: the Marlins have heading into this offseason. The only pending

701
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: free agent they had was Quantrills, and of course they

702
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: ditched him and as a waiver on the waiver wire

703
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: back in August. So they signed Wagman, brought him into

704
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: the fold, and now he's like any other rookie where

705
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: he's under club control.

706
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: A hold on him.

707
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: Now the question is what they do, because if I

708
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: enlarge this a little bit, or if I just hide

709
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: the banner quickly, you see all these guys on the

710
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: sixty day I l that needs to be put back

711
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: on the roster sometime between now and the end of

712
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: the World Series. So they're going to have this group,

713
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: this lovable group is going to change inevitably because they

714
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: have to squeeze all those injured guys back on the

715
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: roster at the expense of of somebody. So that's something

716
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: we'll unpack as this thing settled down heading into next

717
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: week in terms of who might get squeezed out when

718
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: they bring back, especially all those injured pitchers. And at

719
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: this point it's just a bunch of pitchers that were

720
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: still on the il so they have some minor decisions

721
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: to make on the edges of the roster, WHI shouldn't

722
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: be taken for granted because the success, a lot of

723
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: the success this year came from guys that they acquired

724
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: from other teams who were squeezed off of those rosters.

725
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: The guy who closed out the game today, Tyler Phillips,

726
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: who was cut by the Phillies right before they started

727
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: their season. The guy who pitched the parts of the

728
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: sixth and the seventh ending today, Ronnie Henriquez, and had

729
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: their best season overall from a reliever. He was in

730
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: the same situation. He was cut by the Twins right

731
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: before the starts spring training this year, and he ends

732
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: up being a keeper and the guy that looks like

733
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: a high leverage weapon for years to come. So those decisions,

734
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: just as it's important who they acquire from outside the organization,

735
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: it's also just as important who they let go. So

736
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: even though it seems like marginal stuff, and even though

737
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: there's not really any money involved with it, that's going

738
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: to be important. That's something that analyzed leading into that.

739
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: Whether it is somebody like Eric Wagerman who's kind of in,

740
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: he's in that general area where it could go either way,

741
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: whether they want to make room print one or at

742
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: one way or the other, they'll be haunted just the

743
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: same about any of these guys that get squeezed off

744
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: and then break out elsewhere.

745
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: So that's, yeah, you would have to assume that guy's

746
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: like Troy Johnston and riding up or some of the

747
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: are some of those dudes who maybe don't have a

748
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: for sure spot heading to that deadline. But yeah, they

749
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: are gonna have some tough decisions to make, and they

750
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: also will have to decide on any of those sixty

751
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: day il guys, if they want to with Caber being healthy,

752
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that if he's gonna be able to

753
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: pitch next year for them, which is no guarantee, then yeah,

754
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: maybe they are able to to take back everyone else.

755
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if they want to bring back to

756
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: Noko Teyler Zuber. We shall see, but it's gonna be

757
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: an esting deadline for sure.

758
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. This is obviously our first stream since the

759
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: Triple A National Championship Game. I'd remiss not to mention

760
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: that because that was Jacob Barry right, my favorite gifts

761
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 1: of the whole year.

762
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 4: He the best fresh round draft pick we've ever.

763
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: Made, swung the entire championship game. The Jumble Shrimp were

764
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: up at one point six to one late last night.

765
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: They they blow the entire lead. Robbie Snelling, of all people,

766
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: the teams of the year, he comes in out of

767
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: the bullpen. He's throwing gas, but I think he like

768
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: a ninety eight mile per Hower fastball that some guy

769
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: caught up to and split the game. At the top

770
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: of the ninth inning, So they're down by one, two

771
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: bouts left to go, and it's Barry on the first pitch,

772
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: he crushes the fastball. He's uh. That was that was

773
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: amazing the way that they received him that team, because

774
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: he's the guy that spent the entire year with Jacksonville

775
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: as well. Wait, naturally, guys go up and down and

776
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: up and down between Triple A and the majors, and

777
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: he was a guy that did not get a chance

778
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: in the majors even though I picked him in our

779
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: call up contest that came. I was getting close to

780
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: getting him, but he did didn't get that opportunity yet.

781
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: So he was a whole a true jumbo shrimp throwing

782
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: through this entire year. And it's very fitting for him

783
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 1: to come through. So, uh, you know, nothing particularly good,

784
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, by his standards. It was a year, but

785
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: he was more or less like a league average hitter. Know,

786
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: he only had eight or nine home runs, like even

787
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: he was in terms of it was just such an

788
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: inconsistent year where he was in the worst slump imaginable

789
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: throughout April and a lot of May, and then he

790
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: was pretty good all things considered from June onward. So

791
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: it turned it around in that aspect. Still a guy

792
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a defensive position and someone that it's

793
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: it's a lot of singles and doubles and usually not

794
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: home runs, but playing this game, they're playing it in Vegas,

795
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: and I think this is one of those places where

796
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: the ball absolutely flies.

797
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: So this is this is the.

798
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: Ball that I think would have been a home run anywhere,

799
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: but in this case, it was a no doubt. That's

800
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: why this reaction was a little different than usual. One

801
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: of his longest home runs of the year.

802
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Lavastida is the player that took Snelling deep

803
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: down by two with runs on second and third Appo

804
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: Taco against Snelling, and boy, that crowd and that team

805
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: went berserk for for the young men who has eight

806
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: career games in the major leagues and a sub one

807
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: hundred batting average this year.

808
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: He had a good season the PCL.

809
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Though, But yeah, that was it was tough to watch

810
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: live when they hit that go ahead home run.

811
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: I was not I wasn't feeling it.

812
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: I think only one or two of our staffers were

813
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: up late. Shout out Nate Krsmer, who happened to still

814
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: be around and checking it out. But I know I

815
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: did not find out until early this morning that they

816
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: pulled through that regard.

817
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, m.

818
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, there's stuff that we want to get to

819
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: on here. Peter Bendix, Isaac, He's gonna speak on Wednesday, right,

820
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: but we think he was at the ballpark today. Of course.

821
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: I think Kevin sent me a little note that he

822
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: was in the clubhouse postgame. Did you see any of that?

823
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: What those interactions were like?

824
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: I saw maybe one of them. I rushed up here

825
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: to be on the live stream. I was in there

826
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: earlier that we were. We had a really long postgame

827
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: press conference with Clayton McCullough. It was almost twelve thirteen minutes,

828
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: when they're usually about seven eight minutes long postgame. And

829
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: then yeah, I know a lot of the players already

830
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: had already left or packing up.

831
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: And I saw one Bendix encounter.

832
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: I think he was talking with Ronnie Enriquez through translator

833
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: Louis Dernsee.

834
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: And no, maybe Kevin will will fill us in more.

835
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, he has expected to speak at Lone Deeper

836
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Park on Wednesday at eleven am, and I discussed his

837
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: overall though was in the season, the coaching staff players,

838
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: maybe you know, we don't usually get a lot out

839
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: of Peter Bennis, but we'll try our best to to

840
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: ask sharp questions that that he has to answer.

841
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, really never do is whatever angle you want to

842
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: take with trying to put him into a corner, he

843
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: always slithers out of it and just says what he

844
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: or he answers the question that he wants to answer,

845
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: even if that is not the question that you asked,

846
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: very spoken like.

847
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: A true says it like a true politician.

848
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is correct.

849
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: Do you guys think you guys think that he I mean,

850
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: he was super he was super vague just about everything

851
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 4: during the off season. But do you guys see any

852
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 4: window this off season in which we see him actually

853
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: make some like some improvements to the club that are

854
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: going to help the team in twenty twenty six or

855
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: do you think twenty twenty six is is still rebuild time?

856
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: We have a timely comments on here where man, they

857
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: just have so little money on the Blooks for next

858
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: season at this point where they have to do something

859
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: and that real because they were in the crosshairs of

860
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: the Players Association entering this year or spending so little

861
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: money and it's gonna be even more glaringly obvious than

862
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and they don't do anything because it's

863
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: Sandy under contract, and hilariously, the second highest paid Marlins

864
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: player next year, as currently constituted, is going to beat

865
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: gian Carlos Stanton, paying him ten million dollars from that

866
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: trade eight and eight plus years ago. That money that

867
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: they threw in to get Bounce in return that is

868
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: finally due. They have not actually sends along that money yet.

869
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: That starts finally next year at ten million dollars a

870
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: year year for each of the next three years. And

871
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: aside from that, it's a bunch of guys that are

872
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: either pre arbitration eligible. There's there's a handful of guys

873
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: that are gonna be arbitration for the first time, but

874
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: none that are really going to move the needle and

875
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: get huge raises. The guys that had the best, most

876
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: durable seasons for this Marlins team, Kyle Stowers is he's

877
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: not due for a race yet. Either is Otto Lopez

878
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: or Xavier or Edwards.

879
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 4: Or Tensions.

880
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 6: Or your.

881
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: Extension as you said, yeah, extensions, that's.

882
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I just I'm feeling like somebody's

883
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: got to get an extension.

884
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: Somebody's got to get it.

885
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: There's no way we just continue to go on with

886
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: how young all these guys are. I just can't see it,

887
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: but I mean it doesn't surprise me. We go and

888
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: trade Miguel Cabrero. I mean, you never know what these

889
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: guys are going to do.

890
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well, different circumstances luckily, and there is unfortunately

891
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: no Miguel Converta type guy on the Marlins. The only

892
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: guy who wouldn't have made sense a couple of years

893
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: ago was Yury Perez.

894
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: I think they waited too long on that.

895
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: There should be more news on that later in the offseason,

896
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: but I think they waited.

897
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: Too long on that. It's impossible.

898
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: Jacob Marsy with another name that was floated to me,

899
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: but I think he's too old. I think he's twenty

900
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: four years old.

901
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: Now.

902
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: They're not going to extend him when they have him

903
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: for six more years until he's thirty. I think they're

904
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: going to enjoy these six years at a very reasonable

905
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: cost and then let someone else pay him the big money.

906
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: The next guy that would make sense is Thomas White

907
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: to extend. But this segment to this regime has really

908
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: just showed no inclination extending anyone. Granted it's only the

909
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: second full season for Peter Bendix, but I just don't

910
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: see it happening. Craig Misch did report on Marlin's Lab

911
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: on Friday that he could see the Marlins make some

912
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: off season additions to help the twenty six club, including

913
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: the bullpen.

914
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: Marls always need help the first base.

915
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: Like you guys mentioned, I don't think Troy and Wagman

916
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: that platoon duo is gonna cover is gonna gonna do it.

917
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: And then we got to see how the Marlins feel

918
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: at third base.

919
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: I've been I've been hearing grumbleys that they're not ecstatic

920
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: about Connor Norby as much as they were when they

921
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: acquired him last year. They do have Graham Paulli, who

922
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: was a one win player this year, phenomenal glove, a

923
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: third base limited with the bat, played a little bit

924
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: of first base towards the end of the season. But

925
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: I think the Marbins would like something more, especially they

926
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: plan on being competitive next year.

927
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 4: So what are they going to do when let me,

928
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 4: they're just gonna train it.

929
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: I think he's a bench player. I think he's a

930
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: great bench player. Face against the plays against lefties. He

931
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: should not be playing third base. He just can't throw

932
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: the ball. He does have some power in the bat.

933
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: He had a great game today for example, it got

934
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: on base three times. But I think overall, I don't

935
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: think they're enamored with the offensive products that he is.

936
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: But I think they will give him at least another

937
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: half season, another couple of months in the regular season,

938
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: but they are going to be looking for outside help.

939
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would hope that they would give Hi Matt

940
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 4: needs a little bit more time only because it's yeah.

941
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we I wouldn't be surprised, you know, they

942
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: traded Trevor Rodgers, who ended up having an incredible season

943
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: for the Orioles until his most recent started against the Yankees.

944
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're gonna it's gonna be an interesting st

945
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: from training, for sure. I know we say that every year,

946
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: but this MA trad is gonna be a lot of fun.

947
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Very interesting. A lot of guys from that Jacksonville team

948
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: going to be there, and if they don't, even if

949
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: they don't make the opening gay roster, guys that are

950
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: going to be up at some point in twenty twenty

951
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: six that we haven't seen yet, whether it is Robbie Snelling.

952
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: He has plenty of time to recover from his blown

953
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: safe in the championship game, He's gonna be just fine.

954
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: And Joe Mack is the most obvious one. Where he

955
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: made another amazing defensive play last night and also hit

956
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: a home run in that game. He may have won

957
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: an MVP of that game if it wasn't so dramatic

958
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: at the very end. And he just had another great

959
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: season to validate himself as the catcher of the future.

960
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: And I think that part is really clear. It's it's

961
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: not a question of if he's going to get that chance.

962
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: He will be, and it's about what people They got

963
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: to move everybody around him indifference to him because he's

964
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: the guy that can actually handle that position defensively and

965
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: it's still and has more than enough offensive potential to

966
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: be a great option there for years to come. So

967
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: that's yeah, he's coming, no no doubt about it. He's

968
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: right on the verge.

969
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: If it's if it, if it's him and Augustin Ramirez,

970
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: do you put do you put Joe Mack as your

971
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: full time catcher and Romiers as your dh er? What

972
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: do you guys think or is it just going to

973
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: be a rotation like it's been.

974
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like once Mac is up here.

975
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna be the full time catcher and will still

976
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: catch a considerable amount. You know, nowadays, no one really

977
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: catches one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty games anymore,

978
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: So you could see Matc catching maybe ninety to one

979
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: hundred games. I would see another twenty thirty dhing, maybe

980
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: some first base versus till we see this from training

981
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: this year, that'll be some of the mask on Wednesday.

982
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: I can't wait to ask about Ramirez's defense on Wednesday.

983
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, some sort of percentage seventy thirty show it

984
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: would be my guess.

985
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

986
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: So, the thing with with Ramirez is just how mediocre

987
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: he was even with the bat for a large chunk

988
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: of that season heading down the stretch. I absolutely love

989
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: his potential, but you finished this year with a sub

990
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred ops. Uh. That's yeah, you need to take

991
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: a pretty big leap from that if you're going to

992
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: be even most of the time of DH in order

993
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: to actually be a valuable As soon as he got

994
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: called up, there were people saying that he would be

995
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: the most obvious extension candidate. That's when there was still

996
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: some hope with him defensively, and that's when there was

997
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: excitement that he had. His bat was of that type

998
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: of caliber that you absolutely had. You couldn't imagine life

999
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: without it. And the Marlins gave him so many reps

1000
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: down the stretch, which I loved see. But yeah, he

1001
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: really faded gradually as the year went on. If you

1002
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: look at his last fifty games or so, Yeah, he

1003
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: barely hit two hundred in more stolen bases than home

1004
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: runs down the stretch. Is that was an interesting wrinkle

1005
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: to his game, and it's an important one. That he

1006
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: is more useful as a base runner than most catchers are.

1007
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: That is something very real there, And even if he's

1008
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: a DH, he's more useful as a base runner the

1009
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: most dhs are. That something, but and the fact that

1010
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: he still has good contact skills in a way that matters.

1011
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: It's just there was a lot of easy outs as well.

1012
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: There were a lot of lazy pop ups and a

1013
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: ton of ground balls down the stretch, especially to the

1014
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: right side, where he mechanically there has to be some

1015
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: adjustments here based on how much we contact. There's just

1016
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: way too much weak contact in a way that doesn't

1017
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: make sense for somebody with his natural ability. So I

1018
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: think he's going to take a pretty significant step forward

1019
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: moving into twenty twenty six. But it is that what

1020
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: do you do with him defensively? And idea this The

1021
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: team has been consistent with this, even though I don't

1022
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: fully get it, the way that they've had these players

1023
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: fully locked in on one particular position until it's clear

1024
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: that's not working there with him this entire year as

1025
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,479
Speaker 1: a catcher. They did it with a lot of last

1026
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: year and a significant chunk of this season as well,

1027
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: and they've done it with Connor Norby too. Down the

1028
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: stretch where we've had some conversations privately about like how

1029
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: ridiculous it is that Grand Paulie is the one moving

1030
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: off a third dase in order to get Norby and

1031
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: Pauli in the lineup, when in common sense would tell

1032
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: you that should be the other way around. That when

1033
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: you have the one guy that is fully that has

1034
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: shown he belongs at that position, then he should be

1035
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: the one that you put him in place and then

1036
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: make adjustments around him. And it's it's an interesting approach.

1037
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: Maybe that is something to be brought up with Bendix

1038
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: suggest about that pattern of handling players that way, where

1039
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: yet to this point it's not like there's been that's

1040
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: one side of the equation where there hasn't. Really so far,

1041
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: they're kind of zero for three if you want to

1042
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: group those players together in terms of ones that they

1043
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: stick on this position. There's skepticism about them being able

1044
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: to like perform there, and yeah they it hasn't. It

1045
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: hasn't worked.

1046
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 4: So it kind of kind of reminds me of that

1047
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 4: scene in Moneyball where they go to the guy's house

1048
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 4: and they're like, hey, we're gonna stick you at first base,

1049
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: and I think it's Brad Pitt's like, how hard could

1050
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 4: uh first base be? And uh, man, what's his name?

1051
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: He's a manager now, Willie Randalls.

1052
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, He's like it's incredibly hard, but.

1053
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough.

1054
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he could be a worse first base

1055
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: than he has Catcher. I think that's impossible. Yeah, but

1056
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: they are just being stubborn about it. I think next

1057
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: year you might a little bit, or it might have

1058
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: to take I don't know, an injury to whoever's playing

1059
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: first base for them to do it. It's sort of

1060
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: like it happened with auto play short they just put

1061
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 2: him back at second base.

1062
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: In Edwards, So we shall see. But yeah, like this

1063
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: comment says.

1064
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: Augustine's ops, I think it was almost one hundred and

1065
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: fifty points higher when he was the eighteen he didn't

1066
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: have to worry about catching and calling games, so we

1067
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to worry about calling games anymore anyway.

1068
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: But you do see an increase in offensive production when

1069
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: he is solely dhing. But like I've been told, you

1070
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: don't dh only twenty four year old players like this

1071
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: so early in their career, but then you try them

1072
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: at other positions and that's what they're not doing. So

1073
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: it'll be something discussed I'm sure all off season into

1074
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 2: spring training.

1075
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, aside from that, just really encouraging weekends, all things considered,

1076
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: with that middle game kind of being done very quietly.

1077
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: In that middle game, it was the first time in

1078
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: Lone Depot history that the Marlins have been limited to

1079
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: one hit in a single game. So that kind of

1080
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: it's love baseball, I love hell, It's just one game.

1081
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Is in some ways each game is interconnected, and in

1082
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: some games they are completely disconnected. To go from Saturday

1083
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: to Sunday and how completely.

1084
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: Different were.

1085
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: And when On the other side of that, it seems

1086
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 1: that other times where there's continuity and a team gets

1087
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: rolling and like overall vie zoom out. The Marlins were.

1088
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: They won thirteen of their last seventeen. They were really

1089
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: great down the stretch, but not every single dame. There

1090
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: were a couple of days like on Saturday and then

1091
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: in Philly, absolutely getting their asses kicked by the Phillies.

1092
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: In that game that rime whether started, allowing a franchise

1093
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: record eight home runs. That's in this final week alone,

1094
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: like a final week that seems that was so much fun.

1095
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: They set a franchise record for most home runs allowed,

1096
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: They set a franchise record at this ballpark for the

1097
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: fewest hits they've ever had in a home game at

1098
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Lone Depot Park. And then in between them, they had

1099
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: one of the great games of the year to open

1100
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: that Phillies series, braving that delay. Josh Simpson, of all

1101
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: people haven't mentioned Josh Simpson yet, Josh Simpson finishing his

1102
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: year a pretty good note. Good for him, I guess,

1103
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: being a hero and extending bad game. And then of

1104
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: course it is very satisfying win at the very end. Yeah,

1105
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: it's a team that wasn't It was just a very

1106
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: turbulent year. All things considered, but there were almost as

1107
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: many ups as downs, and that was just such a

1108
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: big departure from last year when they were it was

1109
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: a total mess almost from beginning to end. Oh and

1110
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: we've ever mentioned this as well. That's gonna be another

1111
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: storyline about the pitch calling coming from the dugout. This

1112
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: was overall, if you look at the stats, we're gonna

1113
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: do some analysis on this. They had nine games where

1114
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: they called pitches from the dugout at the end of

1115
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: the year. Did that one clunker in Philly? The other

1116
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: are eight games overall they were awesome. Like this, pitching

1117
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: staff really did have one of its very best stretches

1118
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: of the season over these nine games. How much of

1119
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: it do you is going to be credited or should

1120
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: be credited to the change in pitch calling that was

1121
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: coming straight from the coaching staff instead of from the

1122
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: catchers themselves. The results, the results were really good, even

1123
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: if it's a tiny, tiny samples. That's something that shouldn't

1124
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: be totally overlooked that they tried this weird experiment when

1125
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: they were still mathematically alive in the wild card race.

1126
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: The timing of that was it was very odd timing

1127
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: where it's still a small sample, and it also didn't

1128
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: really throw them off their rhythm or overall. The pitching

1129
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: aft did really well down the stretch. Sandy had two

1130
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: very good starts with the system. And do you want

1131
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: to think about it from that veterans perspective as well,

1132
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: because that's going to be it's easier to plug to

1133
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: put this stuff in place when your team is very

1134
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: young and inexperienced and you have guys that don't have

1135
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: the tenure and don't have the track record to kind

1136
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: of push back on it. They're kind of along for

1137
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: the ride because they have to. They're just their following orders.

1138
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: And the fact that at least the veteran players that

1139
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: were involved with this made the transition just fine. So

1140
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: it's I think I've seen some pretty smart people suggest

1141
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: that this is going to that the Marvels might be

1142
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: pioneers on something that is I want, well, pioneer is

1143
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: the wrong word, because this is kind of in a way,

1144
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: this is just rolling, just taking away responsibility from the

1145
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: catchers in a way that already happens that lower levels

1146
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: of baseball. But the Marlins may be doing something that

1147
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: is that is going to be replicated by a lot

1148
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: of other teams because it's something that actually makes sense.

1149
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: It's still premature with this, but when they finished the

1150
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: season off like this and they shut out a team

1151
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: that had so much talent in their lineup and so

1152
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: much desperation that they were playing for and able to

1153
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: perform the way that they did, it is something that

1154
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm excited to dive into because it was in a

1155
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: small sample. The results have been really encouraging.

1156
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to assume does it makes all the

1157
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 2: catchers more comfortable? I assume there will be some catchers

1158
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: that did enjoy and do not like this change. I

1159
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: know that some pictures because the whole argument against it

1160
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: would be the catchers know what the pitcher has that

1161
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: date better than the guys in the dugout. But you know,

1162
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: and I do feel that, you know, the guy doesn't

1163
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: have a sinker one day, or Sandy doesn't have his

1164
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: change up. Who knows that better than Joe mack ORMs

1165
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: catching him behind the plate, more so than the Mars

1166
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: shooting coaches.

1167
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: So that's the one argument I do like.

1168
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, all the all the

1169
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: numbers suggests otherwise, it doesn't matter what you have if

1170
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: you still throw it. That's still your best pitch. St'll

1171
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: throw it most more than any other pitch. So I

1172
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: see both sides of it. But I personally, I am

1173
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: going to miss the whole game calling by a catcher

1174
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: because that was that was such a big piece of

1175
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: that position going forward, and now you're really going to

1176
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: change the position for forever.

1177
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 4: Looks like I mean, I think even with you of

1178
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: that coming into play, and then the ABS challenge also

1179
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: so with with catching catching six, Yeah, it's going to

1180
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: be interesting.

1181
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: Man.

1182
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 4: Well I mean you can kind of, if you think

1183
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: about it, even kind of use the framing. Well, yeah,

1184
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: I guess it wouldn't matter in the end.

1185
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna matter the majority of cases with framing. Yeah,

1186
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: you're so limited. If the number of challenges remain challenges, Yeah,

1187
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: at least initially. If it remains that low, then in

1188
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: most situations, it's still going to be the same situation.

1189
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: And in fact, it's going to with people given that

1190
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: there's now going to be the option of really knowing

1191
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: exactly where a pitch is and whether it should have

1192
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: been a ball or strike. I think it's going to

1193
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: make the broader public even appreciate the good pitch framers

1194
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: even more because they'll be thinking about, damn, we were this,

1195
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: we're this close to if only we had challenge there,

1196
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: and if only we hadn't run out of challenges. In fact,

1197
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: this guy's just too good, So no matter how many

1198
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: challenges we have, it doesn't make a difference because he's

1199
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: stealing so many strikes. It's I'm excited to see the

1200
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: ripple effect of that. From following Joe Mack, I feel

1201
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: like that's the part of his game that he is

1202
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: least exceptional at. I don't think he's he's totally transformative

1203
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: as a pitch framer the way that just a small

1204
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: handful of guys are in the big leagues, like Austin

1205
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: Hedges has that reputation he's been around a million years

1206
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: even though he can't hit because of his framing, and

1207
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Bailey with the Giants has the same reputation. But

1208
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: with Mac it's it's really the whole combination of defensive

1209
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: skills that he has. He's good at everything, and he's

1210
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: probably best at controlling the running game, and which is

1211
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: a great fit for this team as long as they're

1212
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: going to hold on to If it's not Sandy and

1213
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: Urie and Eddie if they hold on to at least

1214
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: two of the three, which was just what we expect.

1215
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: Those are guys that when things come undone for them,

1216
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot of it is because of the running game,

1217
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: and Mac is going to make really significant impact in

1218
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: terms of neutralizing that. So let's see any of the

1219
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: final things I wanted to get to on the show.

1220
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: You.

1221
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: The playoffs start on Tuesday, and it's part of the

1222
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: reason why, part of the reason why they don't have

1223
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: those special tiebreaker game scenarios anymore. They wouldn't have come

1224
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: into play in the National League anyway this year, but

1225
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: the reason why is because they added those extra playoff

1226
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: games and the turnaround is so quick that they wanted

1227
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: to now decide decided on paper instead of on the

1228
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: field if teams finished with the same record in those situations.

1229
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: So actually, I take that back in this year, if

1230
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: they still had the old rules and the Reds and

1231
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: the Mets would be playing one of those type record

1232
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: games and so decided who would get that final spot instead.

1233
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: At least people knew where the Mets stood here, but

1234
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: they knew that the Mets had to finish with a

1235
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: better record because those type records going the other way. Yeah,

1236
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: Defan reminds people Marlin's baseball comes back pretty soon. The

1237
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: Arizona Fall League starts a week from Tuesdays, when Marlin's

1238
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: Projects will play their first game. Their field coordinator, Aaron Lendhard,

1239
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: is going to be the manager of one of those teams,

1240
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: and they're sending several of their best prospects over there,

1241
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: Starlin Caba, PJ Mo Orlando. Yeah, I have some news

1242
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: to share I think tomorrow on our site that they're

1243
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: going to shake up their AFL roster a little bit

1244
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: because of an injury. So that hasn't been fully finalized yet.

1245
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: There's gonna be like one open spot. I'll be curious

1246
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: to see what they do with it. If they do

1247
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: anything interesting, who knows. But they did have an injury

1248
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: to one of those guys that was initially going to

1249
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: be part of their delegation. So we'll get to that

1250
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: on fish On First soon.

1251
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: And I did ask, I did ask Clayton if he

1252
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: has any plans to go to the AFL maybe and

1253
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: check in on some of those guys, and he politely

1254
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: said no, that Lenny, he's got it. I'm out of control,

1255
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: but he has no pl and he even joked around.

1256
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: He said, I didn't even go when I was a

1257
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: field coordinator or a minor league guy down and I'm

1258
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: not gonna go now, And it was very funny about that. Unfortunately,

1259
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: I have to leave you guys. I think they're closing

1260
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: down the press box. But thank you guys for having me.

1261
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: I assume it's almost over anyway.

1262
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: Right mm hmm.

1263
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for another excellent regular season of coverage, mister zoot.

1264
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very thank you everything.

1265
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, mister Gabriel Ravilla, and I'm

1266
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 2: sure we'll see you guys soon.

1267
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1268
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So cut, one last thing is starting on Monday.

1269
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: Starting tomorrow, we're gonna open up voting. We're gonna do

1270
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: awards voting on our site, awards and then way that

1271
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna set it up, I'll give people the sneak

1272
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: peek at what that looked like. Get to finalize it

1273
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: tonight as a staff to make sure all the right

1274
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: candidates are in there for it. But we picked out

1275
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: like a handful of awards that are in some ways

1276
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: similar to what people are used to, in some ways

1277
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: a little bit cool. Yeah, where what we're gonna do

1278
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: is open it up to anybody that has an account

1279
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: on our site. I need to update this date a

1280
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: little bit. We'll figure out exactly how long keep it open,

1281
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: but just for a few days. Picking Hitter of the

1282
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: Year and Picture of the Year, Rookie Day yet Transactions

1283
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: of the Year. I'm trying to narrow down this list

1284
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: of Games of the Year because I initially wanted to

1285
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: do four and then I expanded it to six. So

1286
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: we'll finalize that as well a handful of categories here.

1287
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: The way we're gonna do it is that everybody can vote,

1288
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: but we're only going to count the votes that come

1289
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: from our super subs such as Gabe, who's what we do.

1290
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: So we'll see everybody's voting, but for them to count,

1291
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: got to support Beneficial first dot com slash subscriptions. Is

1292
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: those bones are going to count and determine the winners

1293
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: of those various awards right there, So we appreciate everybody

1294
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: that already supports us in that way. And yeah, are

1295
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: you going to announge?

1296
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: Are you going to announce the series prediction winner?

1297
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: By the way you read my mind, that is gonna

1298
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: be our final item on the agenda right here. Yeah,

1299
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: no new predictions that were gonna make on this pot.

1300
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: But this is the This was the fifty seconds and

1301
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: final series of the Marvel and season all season long.

1302
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: I know you have been very consistent making those picks.

1303
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: You've been a contender for that title a couple of

1304
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Speaker 1: years in a row and I have not been one.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we've cadulated everything. I need to update the

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Speaker 1: leaderboard on the site after we get off the stream,

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Speaker 1: but we do have a winner of Prediction Time twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. This is prediction time.

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Speaker 6: I think we're gonna win a lot of games, a

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Speaker 6: lot more games than you think we're gonna win.

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Speaker 1: This year. It was a good year for people that

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Speaker 1: were optimistic like Bruce when it came to predictions this

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Speaker 1: year because Marrows did exceed expectations, winning almost half games

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Speaker 1: throughout all season long. What we did is we went

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Speaker 1: through we asked people how many games the Models would

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Speaker 1: win in its each series? Who would be the series MVP?

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Speaker 1: And it was our staffers, our last stream guests, and

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Speaker 1: our super subs and yeah, well, yuh, let me make

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Speaker 1: sure that I've stalled long enough to find what I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for here. Coming down the wire is basically a

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Speaker 1: two horse race at the very end between Isaaca Zoo

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Speaker 1: No not Isaaca, Hector Rodriguez. Hector Rodriguez one of our staffers,

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Speaker 1: and also Alec Chow one of our longtime super subs.

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Speaker 1: So coming into this series they were tied at the

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Speaker 1: very ends, and I think I finally found what that

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Speaker 1: leaderboard was. So let me just get this down and

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Speaker 1: just refresh everybody where we stood entering this final series

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Speaker 1: of the years between Alec and Hector to make their

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Speaker 1: picks down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: There it was.

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Speaker 1: So this is sixty four points a piece that they had,

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Speaker 1: and I had them even include a tiebreaker in their predictions.

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Speaker 1: That bottom row is the predictions they made for this series,

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Speaker 1: where Hector had the Mets winning two out of three,

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Speaker 1: Alonso evening MVP and a total attendance of sixty five

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Speaker 1: thousand fans rings. That's Alex's name, his usual name that

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Speaker 1: he uses. He had the Marlins winning two of three,

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Speaker 1: Sandy as the MVP, only fifty five in total attendance.

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Speaker 1: Both of these guys underestimated the power of the Mets

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Speaker 1: fans and how they would lift attendance numbers over the

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Speaker 1: course of the weekend. So that Tyberger didn't come into

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Speaker 1: play anyway, because the Marlins won the series two to

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Speaker 1: one and that was enough. That was the margin of

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Speaker 1: victory that Alec needed to be our series prediction winner.

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Speaker 1: He's been on the show several times. There's a look

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Speaker 1: at him right there. Appreciate his support. He is a

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Speaker 1: he's our prediction time champ for let's go. Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: It did come all the way down to the wire.

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Speaker 1: And we'll mix in various predictions, I guess over the

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Speaker 1: course of the off season. Then maybe we'll keep track

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Speaker 1: of for ships and giggles for people that are interested

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Speaker 1: in doing. But congrats to Alec and I will be

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: in touch with his prize a special prize to show

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Speaker 1: my appreciation. And the reigning champion was Daniel Rodriguez on

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Speaker 1: our staff from last year, held off relatively early. It's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to repeat on this. We have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of people that are really devoted to making predictions on

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Speaker 1: a consistent basis. That's why I wasn't even in the

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Speaker 1: picture at the end of this. I was bumped off

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Speaker 1: by you as one of the people that was in

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Speaker 1: the mix. I'll these are the scores heading into the

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Speaker 1: final week, and I'll tabulate the very including this final

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Speaker 1: series and an update on the site for people to see.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we've been doing this a few years in

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Speaker 1: a row. Wait, a previous version of it that was

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Speaker 1: a little bit different back in the fish Stripes days.

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Speaker 1: But I like what we landed on, and we'll continue

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Speaker 1: and listen to feedback from yourself and others about how

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Speaker 1: to make it even better moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is probably the prediction time thing. Is probably

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite things that Fish On First does.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just fun. Man, It's just so fun

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Speaker 4: to just kind of like, hey, who do you think

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Speaker 4: is gonna win the series?

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Speaker 1: It's fun.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Mh. We will wrap it up there one more time.

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Speaker 1: Got to put the sad Mets fan on the screen.

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Speaker 1: That's just just incredible. This season.

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Speaker 3: It's it's.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was. It would be difficult to believe if

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Speaker 1: it hadn't already happened earlier in Marlin's history. And to

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: see both this team crushed its expectations and also to

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Speaker 1: see the Mets and their fans get crushed by the

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Speaker 1: expectations that they set for themselves and falls so far short,

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Speaker 1: it definitely alters things a lot heading into twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six in terms of.

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Speaker 4: It's also interesting given how this team, i mean Mets

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01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 4: fans man, they were going a static during the off

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Speaker 4: season with and we signed one Soto and like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's great, you signed you know, a generational talent. Absolutely,

1392
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 4: But man, this game it's unforgiving it. It doesn't love

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Speaker 4: you back, you know. That's a reality of baseball.

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Speaker 1: That's why we love it because of how much it

1395
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: surprises us in these various ways. Yeah, thank you everybody

1396
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: for tuning into this particular show we do all season

1397
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: long when we started just a couple of weeks ago.

1398
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: Making sure that all these are uploaded on our podcast

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Speaker 1: feed as well, so people just want to listen to

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Speaker 1: it and don't want to come all the way to

1401
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: YouTube or to Twitter. You can get the full show

1402
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts as well, and we're going

1403
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: to keep that up. So still ironing out exactly what

1404
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: the live stream schedule will be for the off season.

1405
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: But that's I'm always bad at these ends of seasons

1406
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: sign offs because honestly, I'm almost as busy during once

1407
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: the regular season ends, I'm almost as busy as I

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: am moving forward in October, November, et cetera. Whether it's

1409
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: planning for future stuff, but also just stand on top

1410
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: of what's going on in the news and whether it's

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Speaker 1: on the prospect side with things like the Fall League,

1412
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: but also in winter Ball and guys that are playing

1413
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: over there, and just outlining all the potential scenarios for

1414
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: you guys in terms of what the off season looks like,

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01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: how much money they might have to spend, and where

1416
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: they might want to spend it, the guys that they

1417
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: have opportunities to trade, the ones that are at a

1418
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: crossroads in their careers. We break it down and there's

1419
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: there's really only a couple of real soft spots in

1420
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: the whole off season that come around the holidays at

1421
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: the very end of the year. Between now and then,

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01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot to keep me going and to keep

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01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: my staff going.

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Speaker 4: So as long as people and I'll say this as

1425
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 4: a super sub and ask someone who has followed you

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Speaker 4: guys for as long as I have, thank you guys

1427
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 4: for everything you guys do. For real, you know I

1428
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 4: appreciate it. I know that you guys do some serious work,

1429
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: and honestly, that's why I follow you guys more than

1430
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 4: other media platforms per se, and not not to say

1431
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 4: that others aren't as good, but I know what you

1432
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 4: guys do in the amount of work that you guys

1433
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 4: put in. I think that's awesome, and we we have

1434
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 4: super sobs and as fans of fish on first, we

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 4: appreciate it, Eli do we really do.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so yeah, man, my passion for doing this

1437
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: just is on another level. I couldn't stop even if

1438
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to. And thankfully the team is turning around

1439
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, it gets there. There were some

1440
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: low points where it's like the way that they were

1441
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,919
Speaker 1: talking heading into this year, It's like, how, oh yeahs

1442
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 1: for this team to be relevant? Oh yeah. It helps

1443
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: a lot when the major league team is something interesting cooking,

1444
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: and this particular moment that they're in, I find it

1445
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: to be the most fascinating at all. It's be I mean,

1446
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: it would be a different level of excitement if it

1447
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: was a dominant team that's going to the playoffs, but

1448
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: one that is right in the mill. And the decisions

1449
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: that they make for like this offseason and heading into

1450
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: next year, the decisions they make now for these coming months,

1451
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: those are going to be some of the most important

1452
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: decisions that will be made during the whole Peter Bendix era.

1453
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: This is kind of where that is that pivot point

1454
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: where they could either keep going in a certain direction

1455
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: or they can if things don't go right, then all

1456
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it undoes that progress. There's a lot

1457
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: of pressure on them. And that's why, you know, from

1458
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: the outside and from the inside, as long as as

1459
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: much as we're able to learn from our reporting, we

1460
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: try to paint that whole picture all everything that could

1461
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: be in play for this team, and then we'll see

1462
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: how it plays out.

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Speaker 4: But I'm excited to see what no name player Peter

1464
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 4: Bendix comes up with and he shows up to camp

1465
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 4: and nobody knows who he is and just absolutely slays

1466
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 4: like several other players that this dude has found, And

1467
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 4: I'm just like, who thinks of this? This is unreal?

1468
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they went a little bit. They were

1469
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: a little over excited about Eric Wagerman this past year.

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Speaker 3: That was the guy that's like.

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Speaker 1: Why did you sign him? And it's like, oh, well, yeah,

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01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: it turns out that the guys that maybe didn't get

1473
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: a whole lot of attention whatsoever heading into the year,

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: like Enriquez and Tyler Phillips for example, just those two

1475
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: coming down nowhere to be a couple of well, the

1476
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Speaker 1: two very best relievers on the whole team, and with

1477
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: Ronnie in particular being on that short list the best

1478
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: relievers in baseball for a guy that was cut by

1479
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: his previous team.

1480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so we will. Yeah, we will wrap it up here.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back pretty soon, and I know even before

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Speaker 1: the next last with a couple separate pod cast lined

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Speaker 1: up some interviews with people in the organization that people

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Speaker 1: are gonna love. So I can't wait to bring that

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Speaker 1: stuff to you. Like I said this, this next week

1487
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be almost as busy as any week

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Speaker 1: I had during the season itself. So I'm grateful to

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Speaker 1: stay busy and to bring that stuff to you guys.

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Speaker 1: So as long as you enjoy it, we'll keep putting

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Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, that's one of us reminders that our

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Speaker 1: merch is available for people that want it. They want

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Speaker 1: I always do a terrible job at showing the shirts

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Speaker 1: on the stream, even though I.

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Speaker 4: Shirs are actually really cool. I've thought about pulling the

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Speaker 4: trigger a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, and we'll keep building out that collection

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Speaker 1: as time moves on with more ideas. Thank you Gabe

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Speaker 1: again for coming on. This has been a tradition, great

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Speaker 1: tradition that I could sign up for. I can extend

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Speaker 1: you for another year already the off season has even started.

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Speaker 1: That's right to call on this particular live stream every year. Then,

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Speaker 1: happy to keep running back. I am Eli Susman, of course,

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Speaker 1: an I appreciate everybody support. So yeah, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: real soon. A whole lot of stuff coming to fish

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